Thanks for doing all this. I really enjoy your casting and beginners guides. I played the original warcraft, starcraft, and wow games (yeah I am old :). I played SC2 for a little bit but none of my friends play games anymore, and your casting has brought me back into the fold. I am currently retraining my brain and hands on vs AI matches to get used to Hotkeys and movement patterns. Again, thanks for doing all this.
@Qaos2 how long you've been playing? Seems a Tempo issue, but when macro and micro becomes second nature, you'll get to diamon too. Reach ~100 APM and let's go.
@@patricerobert4191 I used to be 50 - before SC2 was even released! At 65 I still play the occasional ladder game and claim to be the oldest player on the planet. Never been any good, best place was a brief period in platinum based mostly on proxies and rushes. Youngsters (I guess) would complain about about the cheese, some even accused me of cheating! Wow I must be better than I thought 😂
I'm with you brother, age 63.5, I played all the Blizzard games. Nicknamed Kenablo, but SC2 is the only game I still play of Blizzard games. I'm not as good as I once was at SC2, but I'm a little too lazy to be pro gamer efficient, maybe low apm competitive. I love Winter's commentary, which has kept me interested
"It's a bit odd to ask of a tentacle-based creature, but will it fit?" 2 Minutes in, and I'm already dead, but at least I had a good life, and gave the video a like before I died!
47:11 I love old memes. Honestly they just make it all feel so cozy... We know they're not quite on the modern level, but still kinda funny, even if for the wrong reasons.
Thanks for casting these winter. My old hands can’t play at better than a wood seven level, but I still enjoy watching the top level talents showcase what is possible
the total dismissal of fixed air defense by even high level zerg baffles me. The amount of harass that is disabled by having two spores instead of none or one really seems worth it against an aggressive player
Love the ODDS!!! I like those metrics to show how they stack up against each other...good idea. Thanks for making my day a little bit better everyday! Winter is coming!
hate it that even after a failed adept push toss has more workers than zerg, while zerg is more broke when 6minute-pushing. lairtech spines ignore shield would be a fair thing
How to easily defend the cannon rush: 0:39 as soon as you see the cannon go down, place 2 spine crawlers. You can always cancel one if need be. Reynor has the money for 2 spines. And it will guarantee your gold base is safe throughout the early game so you can spend more time on offense. Cost wise it's a huge net win, 300 for 2 spines, but you kill a pylon a cannon, and you keep your 300 mineral hatchery.
I love my asian people (especially since I'm black so we get sooo many passes) Imagine if I was to say I was the one black protoss greats... and he said this about me, big lips verses hardly barely visible adepts, "I'm not sure if they can sneak that through." It's unfair. Well I guess by definition SC2 has always been a very low shade of skin game.
spoilers = r r r r r game 3 really goes to show why you just cant ever let zerg live to the midgame. Zerg is just so, so, so much stronger than protoss the longer the game goes on because they can remax so much faster. They can lose every battle while sending a 3rd of their army just to snipe your bases again and again until they remax for a 6th time and you cant remax for a 4th.
Wow, don't think I've seen protoss win a tourny in over a year. Couldn't help but notice they were all won fairly early on in the matches. It's almost like protoss late game is trash or something. Very well played by classic. Those forcefields in game 4 just... mmwwaah
Its almoust no impact in ZvP, since almoust all P units hits hard but slow. Its very common to go only attack or +1 melee and +1 range. +1 armor only viable in late game vs Carriers since the attack fast but hit not that hard.
@@hivetech4903 cause all zerg units that has 90hp+ with armor can survive 1 hit more from stalkers, zealots (espesially, cause they has double attack), etc. And since "all P units hits hard but slow" its totally worth it, cause zerg can do another 2 attacks. Stalker with +1weapon kills Hydrolisk for 7 hits, with +1armor for 8.
srsly wtf Is it only for me looks like toss casually playing the game, and zerg swets his pants off just to have a chanse to hold? Isnt Reynor like second best zerg after Serral? Why it looks like zerg commits too much to defend and stay behind, but commiting less means death?
Nah it's just Reynor got outplayed here, Classic brought a tailor-made build for him. Despite the rankings, Dark or Solar would've done better here imho
Too expensive at time when oracles arrive. Zerg naturally behind on workers until like 40+ workers, building alot of spores and 3-30 makes it even worse, and usually 2-3 queens is enough to defend 1-2 oracles. But ye, I think if its 3, or twilight following we need spores more since queens always out of position dealing with adepts/prism. I think for averege gamer making spore for every base is fine, not much ppl can capitilize on saveng some drones. But they should.
@@kiwmyak What he's saying is 1-2 Spores saves 3+ workers per spore at minimum by stopping the Oracles. And no, Zerg is usually ahead on workers in most scenarios bar a Roach+Ravager all in, and even then, sometimes they're ahead. As long as they're maintaining their injections and have their 3rd Hatch, it's very uncommon for Terran or Toss to be ahead on workers.
Thanks for doing all this. I really enjoy your casting and beginners guides. I played the original warcraft, starcraft, and wow games (yeah I am old :). I played SC2 for a little bit but none of my friends play games anymore, and your casting has brought me back into the fold. I am currently retraining my brain and hands on vs AI matches to get used to Hotkeys and movement patterns. Again, thanks for doing all this.
I played all those too, welcome to the team :) I’m 50 and diamond 1v1 :) such a great game
@@patricerobert4191 impressive, I can’t get past gold 😅
@Qaos2 how long you've been playing? Seems a Tempo issue, but when macro and micro becomes second nature, you'll get to diamon too. Reach ~100 APM and let's go.
@@patricerobert4191
I used to be 50 - before SC2 was even released! At 65 I still play the occasional ladder game and claim to be the oldest player on the planet. Never been any good, best place was a brief period in platinum based mostly on proxies and rushes. Youngsters (I guess) would complain about about the cheese, some even accused me of cheating! Wow I must be better than I thought 😂
I'm with you brother, age 63.5, I played all the Blizzard games. Nicknamed Kenablo, but SC2 is the only game I still play of Blizzard games. I'm not as good as I once was at SC2, but I'm a little too lazy to be pro gamer efficient, maybe low apm competitive. I love Winter's commentary, which has kept me interested
2:20
DUDE I HAVENT LAUGHED THAT HARD IN A WHILE HAHAHA
"Looking a little flacid" had me HOWLING. Please make this spine crawler a short or a highlight clip
@@stalwart56k PLEASE haha. Winter just has a crazy way with words hes one of the best casters imo.
"It's a bit odd to ask of a tentacle-based creature, but will it fit?"
2 Minutes in, and I'm already dead, but at least I had a good life, and gave the video a like before I died!
47:11
I love old memes. Honestly they just make it all feel so cozy... We know they're not quite on the modern level, but still kinda funny, even if for the wrong reasons.
Beautiful play by Classic really impressed
Not at 41:40 👀
I love the additional stats. Keep it up my nerd.
Queen: Im off creep. I'ma weirdo.
Protoss;What the hell are you doing here? You don't belong here..
Queen: AAh AAh AAh eeeeee
Thanks for casting these winter. My old hands can’t play at better than a wood seven level, but I still enjoy watching the top level talents showcase what is possible
Dont feel bad my young hands cant play much over wood 6
glaved adepts truly the blue-flame helbats of the protoss army (except if helbats are fast, can shoot farther, cost gas and can teleport)
Brenda to adepts in game 2: GET OFF MYYYY CREEEP!
Protoss lore has it that the spirt of zeratul lives within Classic’s chin
the total dismissal of fixed air defense by even high level zerg baffles me. The amount of harass that is disabled by having two spores instead of none or one really seems worth it against an aggressive player
Its because it's too expensive.
A lot of things seem worth it for lower league players.
I wonder if building spire to get 4 or 6 corruptors is worth
Total dismissal= a spore crawler in every mineral line in game one.
Both the revelation and the shade are used so much for scouting, maybe that opening should be named after that. "Ah yes, the binocular opener"
Love your casts mate, that last fight in game 4 was friggin cleeeean!
Brenda???? "WE'VE HAD ENOUGH, OKAY SUSAN?! THIS IS OUR TIME!" 🤣
This is what Starcraft is supposed to BE!! No gimmicky bullshit just pure skill and strategy battles! Game 2 best game of the year.
I love watching zest and classic play! Imo Protoss a bit gimmicky, but when piloted in such a confident straightforward manner it’s gorgeous!
I would like to see Classic use the same strategy from game 1 against Dark
24:40 had me like "what an asshole" 😂😂😂
Love the ODDS!!! I like those metrics to show how they stack up against each other...good idea. Thanks for making my day a little bit better everyday! Winter is coming!
Omg Classic plays Protoss so beautifully
Thanx for make my day a little bit better
47:06 lmao please tell me this was a jab at Mitt Romney 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
statistics are just a probability. sometimes a champion like olivera comes out of nowhere and surprises everyone
That last game by Classic was fucking immaculate
that was some incredible skill from Classic
That force field work was epic
Brenda and Karen always argueing, but Lucille is the true MVP here.
dont forget susan, is she the dumdum of winter's knitting group lore?
For the oracle and adept combo may I suggest the name..... The parasol.
-a light umbrella used to give shade from the sun.
Winter and Jimmy are nice guys ❤
hate it that even after a failed adept push toss has more workers than zerg, while zerg is more broke when 6minute-pushing.
lairtech spines ignore shield would be a fair thing
41:40: WtH was Classic thinking, attacking into a million Spores with Carriers??? And the other base was literally undefended!
Thanks again for all those hour of pure exquisite entertainment ♥
2:20 I remember a Zerg Queen asked the same thing.
Thats some peak protoss right there.
That was quite a dunk in that second game
I don't think I've ever seen Adepts used as anything more than an early game gimmick, I'm lovin it.
Jimmy! Why does the Emperial march from Star Wars enter my mind when I read this title?
How to easily defend the cannon rush:
0:39 as soon as you see the cannon go down, place 2 spine crawlers. You can always cancel one if need be. Reynor has the money for 2 spines. And it will guarantee your gold base is safe throughout the early game so you can spend more time on offense.
Cost wise it's a huge net win, 300 for 2 spines, but you kill a pylon a cannon, and you keep your 300 mineral hatchery.
is classic's build in game 2 the build that Harstem taught to Casually Explained maybe 3 years ago?
Classic outpost, that is boss move
Love to see muh Toss winning.
Outclassiced!
The statistics is highly aporeciated.
Maybe there is no need to show it too often, but from time to time.
27:30 Call it the Hero's Gambit?
Not sure who originated it but it seems like her0's style
This caster is hilarious.
really impressed w/ classic there
Good to see more excellent Protoss . Maybe Protoss are not as weak as people say after all.
Protoss are only weak outside of Korea
Wow classic 21:53
no longer powered by tears
You asked for ideas: adept shade oracle timing = shady oracle...
jimmy raising the cost of likes thinks we dont notice.
Love Classic!
Chintoss is a violation hahahaha
I love my asian people (especially since I'm black so we get sooo many passes) Imagine if I was to say I was the one black protoss greats... and he said this about me, big lips verses hardly barely visible adepts, "I'm not sure if they can sneak that
through." It's unfair. Well I guess by definition SC2 has always been a very low shade of skin game.
@@locophat I think it just means he has a peculiar-looking chin. Perhaps.
Entertaining!
I love Cannon rush. LOL
Ah yes, the Macro Cannon
What beats this adept immortal style? Mutas?
No Reynor had a great comp, he just took too much damage from the initial Adept push, and the map is also not ideal.
And for his next trick he'll go beat Maru...
Brenda, my beloved
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game 3 really goes to show why you just cant ever let zerg live to the midgame. Zerg is just so, so, so much stronger than protoss the longer the game goes on because they can remax so much faster. They can lose every battle while sending a 3rd of their army just to snipe your bases again and again until they remax for a 6th time and you cant remax for a 4th.
Wow, don't think I've seen protoss win a tourny in over a year. Couldn't help but notice they were all won fairly early on in the matches. It's almost like protoss late game is trash or something. Very well played by classic. Those forcefields in game 4 just... mmwwaah
I don't care what Reynor says; more PvP please.
that was so naughty
Welcome to Korea boy
He tought it would be easy where the others have failed...
Change of name to NeoClassic is needed.
Awesome series.
Adoracle
Had no idea Classic is so with the shits
very nice games ;)
Nice
Nice
Wow
Reynor is going to have a good time in GSL. Bippitty Bop. Still a better Zerg than Serral tho.
Thank You
Om nom nom
He’s popping up! Go Raynor!
Spoiler
Ahhhh good game classic
God damn I'm a genius. ADORACLE! I WILL COMMENT THIS UNTILL YOU SEE IT!
What happened with video quality 😢
rocks should be nerfed to 0 armor down from 3
I was looking for reynors armor upgrades the whole series
Its almoust no impact in ZvP, since almoust all P units hits hard but slow. Its very common to go only attack or +1 melee and +1 range. +1 armor only viable in late game vs Carriers since the attack fast but hit not that hard.
@@kiwmyak (bronze player analytics right here)
@@Hellafast2uDude As 4.6K MMR Zerg I can tell you he's definitely correct... what are you implying?
@@hivetech4903 cause all zerg units that has 90hp+ with armor can survive 1 hit more from stalkers, zealots (espesially, cause they has double attack), etc. And since "all P units hits hard but slow" its totally worth it, cause zerg can do another 2 attacks.
Stalker with +1weapon kills Hydrolisk for 7 hits, with +1armor for 8.
@@Hellafast2uDude I'am 4.3 zerg player. I learn alot watching and asking questions from good players. U can be delusionnal as much as u want
can you make some bronze league heros
Calling it now skytoss is losstoss
Cannon rush? Like and subscribe ezpz
No views? Never been this early before...
Currently invading Korea, I LOVE IT HAHAHHAA.
srsly wtf
Is it only for me looks like toss casually playing the game, and zerg swets his pants off just to have a chanse to hold?
Isnt Reynor like second best zerg after Serral? Why it looks like zerg commits too much to defend and stay behind, but commiting less means death?
Nah it's just Reynor got outplayed here, Classic brought a tailor-made build for him. Despite the rankings, Dark or Solar would've done better here imho
Reynor may be second by points, but his recent play in events has been very uneven.
like
I dont understand why Zerg don't build anti-air! 2 queen's at a hatch aren't enough to deal with the constant harass
Too expensive at time when oracles arrive. Zerg naturally behind on workers until like 40+ workers, building alot of spores and 3-30 makes it even worse, and usually 2-3 queens is enough to defend 1-2 oracles. But ye, I think if its 3, or twilight following we need spores more since queens always out of position dealing with adepts/prism. I think for averege gamer making spore for every base is fine, not much ppl can capitilize on saveng some drones. But they should.
@@kiwmyak What he's saying is 1-2 Spores saves 3+ workers per spore at minimum by stopping the Oracles.
And no, Zerg is usually ahead on workers in most scenarios bar a Roach+Ravager all in, and even then, sometimes they're ahead. As long as they're maintaining their injections and have their 3rd Hatch, it's very uncommon for Terran or Toss to be ahead on workers.
first
it would make so happy if you stopped doing your intro
Reynor needs to retire. He got old and slow....
More games with serral pls 🙂
Every series seems conspicuously spoiled by the thumbnail.
as m uch as i love mthios game i still find broodwar more fun