How to properly nail shingles.
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I know we need guys out here to fix roofs but roof working is suck ass.. hat's off to all roofer's in this world..
Good thing you learned how to speak espanol
That was really bad..
8 inch stairs? How many inches?
That's a nice thought ,but what is also important, is how you finish your rake end . You know the end you didn't start at😂
In my experience good luck getting a roofer to do it like this. Do this: Read the manufacturer's installation instructions on nails, number of nails per shingle, placement and depth of nails and then watch the typical roofing crew. Be prepared to be totally frustrated.
I am not looking forward to this today:(
This is how my crew does it. Boss man doesn’t want them to do it this way but they insist it’s the best and it actually makes sense
I always thought my dad was bullshit when we put up shingles at my aunts since he would correct me every time I would mess up. Reading this comment just made me realize how much experience my dad has and wants to pass on. Thank you.
@@Andrew-nc9zq Crew is right, your boss man is wrong. If water gets to the shitty electro plated nails they will rust then leak.
That second nail was to far tbh
I put the shingles under the plywood to protect them.
😂
Also decorate ur wall to protect the insulation
Put underlay under the plywood and on top of shingles for extra protection 😅
😂😂
That's why I also built my house inside out.
Then at the end of the video, he switches into full auto. 🤣
Right. He went slow to show you where then went at a shingling pace. Stop acting stupid 🤣
Paid by the square
And didn’t get anywhere close to where he showed us to shoot ‘em.
@@Hardworkpays209yes he did. He didnt out one on the end because he's going to put it on later.
Probably got pissed at boss man slowing him down for RUclips.
If only there was a diagram printed on the packaging telling you where to put the nails 😂👍🏻
😂🤣😂🤣
There is a diagram 5-6-7 nails depending on the pitch/gable.
😂😂
@@ericramirez7051yes
@@ericramirez7051
All manufacturers have a 4 nail standard, 5th or 6th nails are optional, not required, and still covered by manufacturer warranty (whatever that ends up amounting to).
1st hour of hurricane, no leaks.
6th hour of hurricane, no shingles.
It's the truth.
You’re absolutely correct because of no tar to seal the shingles👍🏼👍🏼
In the northeast,I think it's included with homeowners insurance
@@howardmurphy2841 in South Georgia insurance doesn’t want to pay for anything lol I’ve had the worst experience with every insurance company in Douglas Georgia when it comes to homeowners insurance you pay for it yet they do not want to fix nothing unless every shingle on the house has blown completely off😅 and even at that they want to pay only material cost not labor to install them. It’s a cutthroat situation around here.
tar is on the back of every shingle now @@timsmith223
The tar strips are on the underside of the top shingle ! The issue is over or under nailing with improper air pressure and or paid by the square illegals doin a blow and go on your roof ! Hand nailing still the best , always will be !@@timsmith223
The shingle is not fastened according to the roofing manufacture
Thank you. Or most city codes
🔗 link?
@@kwameatum577the link is on the instructions that come with the shingles lol...
I'm in south Louisiana and it's 6 nails per shingle. 1 each end and 4 in the field. That's code, no way around it. Any time I hear someone do a roof around here I listen to the shots
If you do it the way the instructions say you get your warranty period name one building inspector looking at how many nails it’s five nails and you good
Even the "small" stuff adds up to turn a good job into a perfect job. Keep teaching us. Lots of us are taking notes. 👍
The lay out is rite……. But your actually supposed to nail between the two lines….
Nailing that close to the edge leaves a possibility for water being blown up on to the nail from high winds. 💯
The doubled portion of the majority of standardized architectual style shingles (The middle section joining the top half with the bottom held together only by a bitumen strip) is only 5/8" wide, and if not nailed directly in the line delineating the center of this strip will cause the two sections to slide & separate on steeper pitches in hot weather and also allow failure due to minimal windshear if nailed incorrectly.
The manufacturer should mark the shingles then.....because I've never seen anyone do that.....
That's not the correct way. The wind will catch those and rip them off eventually.
@@QuintonRC23 THATS NOT TRUE
It prevents nail rust out, at vertical seams water can travel up to 4-6 inches horizontally. While it doesn't cause too much damage to misplace a nail or two, if an installer isn't reading manufacturers instruction the whole roof is going to be forked
@@xanthopoulos1825 roofing nails don't rust
@@joshwatson9725 roofing nails rust.
You’re absolutely right about the nail placement but far as the nails being nailed where there are they are too low water can run underneath the shingle look how far the nails are down I have went to job’s exactly like this over a 100 times were the nails are exactly the same nailed too far down and water run underneath it and cause a leak water always don’t run downhill. It can run, uphill and settle. No Diss just facts. And being these are cheap shingles which doing this for over 35 years and the tar line will not seal bc there barely is one there for one too stick and keep water from going underneath it. Timberline has the same issues which is an architectural shingle Lowes carries or use to carry that does not seal properly to keep water from going underneath it and if you use that shingle, your nail placement has to be high to prevent water from going into the nails.
You have to nail where the company specifies, and I’ll bet $1 that’s the spot.
@@daviddauterman325 sorry mama’s wrong again.😂 I hate to have a pissing contest here but the company hasn’t specified to nail in those spots I will bet you a hundred dollars 💸 PayPal! I know I’ve been in this business far too long and can tell you it will fail inspection if an insurance adjuster comes out to the property and does an assessment those nails are far too low there in the right place but far too low and if any one of those doesn’t seal properly it will leak with a heavy rain fall.
I've noticed that if I don't use shingles at all, and use sheet metal... I don't have to worry about leaks... or replacing a roof every few years
You should get at least roughly 10 years out of shingles. I don't know who did yours, but find someone else.
@@QuintonRC23 I've never used shingles, and I do all my own work. Shingles are horrible for the planet.
@@pigtrapper1329 it's just asphalt and gravel grit stuck to paper
@@QuintonRC23 is asphalt healthy for the world?
@@pigtrapper1329 tar and asphalt come out the ground bud. No different from using gasoline and diesel, or anything else petroleum based. Tar is actually coal derived, but still.
Perfect nail pattern. It's so hard to look at these comments with all these DIYers that don't have a clue. Nail pattern is everything. Good job
A proper nailing pattern would be a 1 2 2 1 with the 2 middle ones being 12 inches off both ends
Yup 100%.
That's how to properly nail a 3-tab shingle
@@420somewhere4 wrong. Read the wrapper. You have to do it this way keeps the nails out of the cracks.
@@ohnij3d221 you clearly don't roof...that's a 3 tab method. Fuck what u hear....are you sure IKO® , GAF®, at last®, owned corning®,Certainteed says the same exact things ? No... When you bang roofs out daily with architectural shingles with no details in the middle of the field it's 1- 5 ... 12 inch space . Your way is waterproof and will last, but won't hold against a small hurricane like mines will. If u knew roofing you'd know the method I'm talking about 1......space 14-15 inches , 5
@@420somewhere4 you're good bro. You said it correctly
no manufacturer has ever suggested 5 nails 😂 it's 6 for high wind and 4 for low wind
Yes.
4 is good 5 is better
Double nail the ends?
@@bullfrog1807 😂 no
Second nail goes 10”-12”separate from the first one. Is what all the manufacturers said. Not in the meddle of the shingles 💁🏽♂️
First of all. That would blow off in a second where i live because there’s no right way to nail them as far as pattern goes. You just don’t nail on a seam and that’s it. I’d go as far as saying your skip was WAY too big for any area. But like I said , it depends on the area for how you nail it.
skip was definitely too big. we use 6 nails in my area per shingle, including the skip. the skip is good practice but was too big
@@tylerowens8802 yup exactly what we do actually. 6 nails for every shingle including the skip but the skip is NEVER as big as it is there like you said.
I had to turn down a roof repair last week. She said the roof was 5 years old, had 3 different guys out already. I went up and looked. I peaked under several corners. Almost every corner had a rusted nail within a inch of the corner. I took pictures, showed the client, and kindly explained why I couldn’t take responsibility for any repairs. Knew it would be a can of worms.
Right on
3 different guys didn't want to do a full strip and re roof.
@@Fernando-jy6gq home owner probably didn't have the cashola to do the whole thing
Can somebody explain what it means what he saw ?
@@juliusraben3526Where two shingle next to each other meets there not supposed to be a nail near by in the underlying piece which you can see only by lifting up both piece' bottom corners.
Most shingle manufacturers only require a 4 nail pattern for installation. 4 nails arent enough for us....State Roofing Company uses a 6 nail pattern for all of our asphalt shingle installations. State Roofing Company ONLY hand nails our shingle roof systems and provides a backed manufacturer warranty of up to 130 mph wind rating. Beat that, competition!!!
That last shingle definitely had some shiners lol
The next shingle was definitely nailed low
Nailing pattern is printed on the wrapper. All you're going to do shooting from the hip is give the insurance company a reason to deny a claim.
That’s how to fail a roofing inspection in Nevada. A minimum of 6 nails per shingle is required due to high winds.
read, understand, and follow the directions that manufacturers put on their product.
I believe nails had to be on the upper line so water don't get in the nails holes
Depends on the pitch.5 and lesser, I agree. But your supposed to nail in between the lines 5 and above so there's better purchase on the shingles. Especially where I live near the ocean.
At least between. All to low
That’s how I learned and was taught, I don’t do roofing anymore I did for about 3-4 months and got the hang of it. Rule number 1 make sure no leaks 💯💧💧💧
The roofer isn't listening...
He's like GTFOH I'm trying to finish & ur bothering!! 😂🤣
Every guy with a hammer is a carpenter.....I was a roofer for many years and now I just watch others....I almost never see people doing it right.....thanks for explaining this to the people that don't get it......
Followed by a low mail on the next section…. Can you provide any manufacturer that calls for a 5 nail pattern? Only group of 5 is with a high wind application of Windsor but it’s actually a 9 nail pattern with 5 below and 4 above….. NEVER 5 nails, but keep on with the proper placement!
the manufacturer should mark the shingle with the recommended nail locations.
One nail 1/2"-1" from each end and then 13" from each end. If your 12/12 or steeper it's one nail 1/2"-1" from each end and 2 nails at 13" from each end 1"apart for 6 nails. Just make sure they are in the proper nail line to catch the double thickness. Period.
I was pretty sure you’re supposed to nail between the chalk lines. Not directly on the chalk line.
Just read the wrapper on the shingle and follow the instructions as manufacturer recommended, other wise the manufacturer will not cover the shingle if winds hail or any other issue arises!
1 nail, gap, 5 nails. It doesnt void the warranty.
No habla😂😂😂
Get the border jumpers that installed it to return to repair it….
Love how he posts a video about proper nail placement yet in 80% of his other videos he doesnt even apply it to those roofs shown in the video 😂
Yeah Clown's 🤡 Will be 🤡 CLOWN'S
@@jasonthomas2714 just to clarify im talking about the company in the video not the roofers helper channel lol
Well… this still isn’t proper placement. It’s kinda close. Haven’t sent the other videos though
@@ScottRoofwalker what makes it improper? Just curious. Definitely wouldnt be rejected for warranty depending on the shingle type. If its a iko shingle thats exactly where you are supposed to nail, on the line
@@Josh-ww5kz it’s not “wrong” but it’s not correct. I’m counting 5 nails. It’s been a long day, I could be wrong. Nothing wrong with 5 nails but if we’re talking about specs and manufacturers guidelines, we’re talking 4 or 6 nails. While there must not be a nail in the key way, the distance between nail 1 and nail 2 is a bit extreme.
If you nail like that and you get a hurricane they're coming off
WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?? GUEES YOU NEVER ROOFED BEFORE!!!
Most certainly!!!
Low wind application, most manufacturers only require 4 nails per shingle and it's standard practice to use 5 or more in high pitch and high wind areas
you are assuming this roof was installed in a place where hurricanes are common or happen at all.........
That's a little aggressive to be thinking that missing ONE nail per shingle is gonna cause Armageddon
I install the shingles starting from the ridge and it looks great
... wow...
I assume you are joking...
@@whochecksthis yes I'am 😂😂
The shingle manufacturer says evenly spaced nails. I’d stick with that for possible warranty issues down the road.
Or you could put the shingles on correctly instead of ripping off the customer.
You might want to read the shingle package. It tells you where to nail.
Finally a proper nail pattern 👍
Definitely don't work around my area because that roof would blow right off lol
Exactly
What area?
Must be installing IKO or Tamko then. A shingle with a good seal strip would not have any problems.
@@Stefan-yz5lr don’t even get me started on both those trash shingles haha
Exactly. Additional adhesive or tar must be applied under every row because where I live, come January that entire roof is coming off when the wind blows 160kmh.
I like how the next shingle he’s goes normal speed and misses the nailing strip. Love me manufacturer warranties at its finest
WRONG WRONG WRONG. 6 NAILS PER SHINGLE 4 INCHES FROM JOINT IS SUFFICIENT. YOUR WAY THEY WILL NOT GUARANTEE IT ON A GOLDEN PLEDGE ON GAF OR JUST ABOUT ANY BRAND OF SHINGLE.
My gun is way farther than the joint in my mouth
God damn. Some say 4, then I see a video of someone putting in 5 and it’s still wrong 😂😂
That nail is supposed to be on the line above. The next row of shingles goes on the bottom line
Came to the comments for the fool who says how they do it. Only corn ball construction workers criticize another’s work. Usually probably a laborer.
@@Bdigital9482 that’s not criticizing and I’m the owner little kid. Oh and I’m 22 🤣
@@Bdigital9482 come work for me probably fire ya in the first day 🤣
If your installing architectural shingles like you describe, then your doing it completely wrong then.
The actual nailing instructions is on the bag
Yeah RTFM “Read THe F*%King manual” 😝
I did roofing for a spell. Never had a air compressor. Every nail is deliberate.
Yes that spacing is good. However a little low
The shingle where he nailed slowly they were at perfect height, but the second shingle had a few low nails by the looks of it
This is the type of shit we tell the white guy on the job site to stress him out so he leaves
Black power
@@Ave_Satana666 💩⏪U
@@loneranger9485 😴😴😴 you're tired man
Water isn't intended to reach the nails as the top shingle is covering it. Improper nail positing will affect the systems ability to resist wind uplift.
I also have to add that if you don't follow the nailing pattern recommended by the manufacturer, you commonly void your manufacturers warranty.
Another group of hacks that can’t read the instructions on the package, or stay above the nail line/common bond.
Also depends on the pitch of your roof
Most people have no idea how much water can come in along a nail.
Great video on proper nail placement.
Lol then his labourer proceeds to put 4 nails right next to the edge 🤣😂😂🤣🤣
I knew I wasn't the only one to see that
I saw it and laughed inside
Perfect nailing. Second nail always 12-14 inches from edge of shingle. 4-5 nails on the nail line, not an inch above on the nail line
Your guys is nailing below the nail line which doesn't leave proper adhesion for tar on back of shingle other than that top notch
Just now learned that! Good Vid.
It’s not called a seam 😂 it’s a key way. Seams are for flat roofing!! 😅
In the UK we have slate tiles on top of the ta pole .
Quite a difference in roofing in different countries 😊
Now show how to properly install your stagger on your shingles
Not three tabs, a stagger bond line is not needed .
@@MiguelLopez-sj2ib those aren’t 3 tab those are your basic 30yrs shingles your ladder has to at 6 inches at least
@@ivanzepeda6216 u missed the point
@@ivanzepeda6216 u clearly don't know what I was talking about
dudes like "slowly!" hold on!" homeboy got 1 speed! haha flat out
Bad roofers nail fast so they can hide the fact they don't know how to read manufacturer instructions
you nailed it in those places because it makes it possible to change a single shingle
I've been roofing all my life and that's how I always place my nails
Finally somebody knows how to fucking nail the shingles right someday they'll read the underlayment that says do not staple! So when a microburst blows off the shingles it doesn't take off the underlayment that would be held down with cap nails
Yes,absolutely this is silly 🤣 I've never heard of water going down beside a nail,never ever in the whole life of the shingle.
i'm guessing you've never worked construction
@@Fractal-insights you guessed wrong, 44 years in the Plastering and Stucco trade. I've seen and repaired water damage and it's never been because of nails.
@@petekobraoutdoors7324 then i find it hard to believe that you've never seen a rusty nail on a shingle. Thats how it starts, because once the nail rusts away all is left is a funnel for water to seep into.
sounds like you don't have that much experience
@@lukasztekielak5493 lol,you must be new.
In BUISINESS for 44 years as a plasterer and Stucco specialist and I've never repaired a ceiling because of a rusty nail,or any leak do to a nail.
Roofing nails don't rust, unless you're using THE WRONG NAIL FOR ROOFS, they are galvanized and will not rust out for the life of the roof. Guaranteed.
Literally the first person on youtube I've seen do it right. 👍
Please tell me how water moves 6” off the path of least resistance… this does not reach manufacture spec or most city codes especially anywhere that has wind which is all coasts, mountain range and the Midwest so a fuck ton.
FINALLY!!!! I'm sick of the people that think that whole area beyween the white lines is where you out the nail
Customer! Why is half of my roof blown off!?!?
I have seen thousands of roofs here in vermont with tons of shingles missing with 6 to 7 nails holding the shingle down the wind from a feild gonna rip the roof off in 1 decent blow...
@@Blackjack_focus_st3 same in NH
My shingles were installed this way.... they FAILED in 50 mph winds when rated 110 mph. I disagree with this pattern
If water is getting under the shingles, you're doing something wrong.
This video addresses keyway nails in the book. Most manufacturers have this on the shingle package and in their installation practices. Water will easily migrate 3+ inches to either side if that butt joint.
Capillary action. It’s a thing
In my opinion, it’s inevitable that water will get into the underneath of this type of roof through the seams when wind blows backwards in rainy days.So for this type of roof, water shields under the shingles are vital, water shields should be glued to the surface not nailed, because each nail hole is a hazard of leaking, however it’s inevitable to use nail to keep this shingles,so leaking is for sure
6 nails yes you want a space betweem your 1st and 2nd nail but herr up north we do 6 nails. 5 nailers blows off the roof
It makes sense where you're talking about it maybe you should show that to the inspectors down here in South Florida because that doesn't fly here you would never pass inspection in the Tri-County area
Just hurricanes that's why. Dade is probably 8 nails lmao
The white lines are the nailing strip, suppose to be between them woth your nails. You've nailed to low.
This is the correct way to shingle and almost every roofing crew in my area in PA shingles this way and I have told many crews to correct their way of nailing their shingles to this method because any nail close to the seam will rot and cause a leak.. many little details like this are key to not letting your roof leak.
There's a tar strip on the back of the shingle to seal the nails. Hope you don't get any high winds with that nail pattern.
Miami-Dade shingle nailing schedule has entered the chat……
On the back of each shingle is a tar strip that keeps the water from " running to the nail!"
I have always wondered why roofers appear to miss that large gap. Thank you for spelling it out.
An to do this right and quickly every time is pretty dope yo!
I like it but it would not pass the engineers Windstorm inspection here in Texas where 6 nails per shingle are required to get your WPI8
That’s a great tip! Excellent explanation too! Thank you
I did roofing for 20 years and if you want a good warranty people.Hammer and nail.when we did use guns the boss wanted us to carry a claw hammer for nails that go in crooked . And we always had to adjust the air pressure if it was hot. And if it was too hot we would stop nailing it coming back in the evening
That’s amazing … that people wouldn’t already be aware of this
1st nail to close to edge 2nd nail to far in to grouping
I’m glad you finally figured it out
Good video 💯
You forgot to mention when he hits the white line he’s putting the nail through a doubled up area of the shingle. Very important against wind storms
If you flip the shingle upside down and install it, you never have to worry about the color fading
Finally someone who knows how
That bottom line on the shingles. No part of the nail head can touch it. Otherwise when moisture seepage will get to it and rust the nail if it’s at all touching that line or below it.
What about the next shingle with the nails below the nailing line
Thanks for the tip
Why don't you use tiles in the USA? Rather than these flimsy shingles.
From being a roofer for 45 years oh yeah I didn't know that Psych the instructions are on the shingle bundle DEA
The 2 lines it’s made so you can nail inside? Read the bando of the shingles , between the lines have a seal that seal the seals the nail on top edge of the shingle .
Thank you for explaining that in detail 😊
You know the nailing strip is between the lines not on them?
As a true roofer, thanks for showing this to the one's who didn't know 💪🏾🏚️🔨🏠
Ok. But the other end of the shingle is nailed closer to the seam. So bigger question.....if I fail to follow the recommended pattern on the package will my warranty be contested should there be an issue?
Shingles now a days seal so well that water actually does go left and right, if you dont believe me look for the water marks when ripping off architectural shingles next time.
Nailed it…
And when the wind is blowing uphill explain how the water doesn’t get to the nails? If you live where there’s real wind driven rain (like near any coastline or tornado alley) you nail 5 or 6 across to make sure the shingle is evenly loaded. Just follow the mfr instructions and stop thinking you are smart but are just ripping off your customers