The WORST Formula 1 Tracks EVER
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- Опубликовано: 24 апр 2024
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The fact that the original Abu Dhabi layout survived for more than a decade is insane
One thing to answer that, MONEY MONEY MONEY
Fernando Alonso agrees with your statement
When the original thing is not always the best, one of the answer is Abu Dhabi.
The fact that it was the season finale made it even worse.
@@harmkuijpers6642 And now, what's your opinion about the new layout of the ADGP? 🇦🇪
The first circuit that comes to mind when I think of bad F1 circuits is the Caesar's Palace Car Park.
For me it's the Le Mans Bugatti Circuit. If you couldn't race on the full Sarthe, why even bother going?
@@THENAMEISQUICKMAN Idk, for some reason France can only build extremely boring or extremely dangerous F1 circuits with the possible exception of Magny-Cours which is badly located and needs investment to be F1 level. It's a shame.
@@THENAMEISQUICKMAN Ironically, I've seen some awesome motorbike races there. But deffo wouldn't want today's cars on it.
He talks about it in the first vid u should check it out
@@THENAMEISQUICKMAN Bugatti's a pretty decent race track in it's own right. The MotoGP races there are great. Admittedly it's nothing on the monster that is the Circuit de la Sarthe.
We need a top 10 current non-F1 tracks, like Laguna seca and Kyalami
Buddha international circuit
Kyalami was F1 track. It has to be top10 tracks where F1 never raced.
totally agree with you there but laguna sec is super fun in motogp but idk kyalami
mount panorama also deserves a mention
We need Hockenheim back
Crazy how 2021 made Paul Ricard and Sochi interesting
Other notable years for both those tracks are ... also ... as well as... oh and dont forget ... its also worth mentioning ...
Paul Ricaed is just ugly but the layout is actually really good. It had bad lucks so almost no one likes it. Tbh i have no idea why is magny cours more popular. It is basically an anti-racing track. It has one short overtake oppurtinity, rest is just corners to corners. It had only 2(!) good races in 16 years.
@@untitledtitle503it's really good for endurance racing, one of my favorites
@@JoshuaC923also Endurance removes the chicane on the back straight which helps alot with overtaking
As a citizen of Michigan the fact that anyone looked at our roads and said, "yeah, let's hold a race here," is BAFFLING to me.
IndyCar moved back to Downtown Detroit after decades at Belle Isle last year. Seems like it was a lateral move entertainment-wise.
5th year in MI and I also agree fully
So true. My car going from absolutely solid as a new purchase to rattling everywhere while driving in just 10k mile is crazy.
@@alecerdmann8505 As an F1 fan since the 80s, with a secret assignation with Indy and CART throughout that period... I kinda dig Belle Isle. I watched the last race there. It was sad. At least they had a nice fountain.
@@alecerdmann8505There was talk about moving F1 to Belle Isle, but that never happened. Which is a real shame, because I’m certain that F1 would’ve enjoyed the track there. Especially the layout used from 1998 to 2001 and from 2013 to 2022. At least overtaking was possible. The new downtown circuit? I see only one overtaking opportunity…at the end of the backstretch on which the start line is located. Formula E would be better suited for this new track than Indycar.
As a wise New Zealander said 5 years ago:
There are BAD circuits. And then there are CRAP circuits. Then there's 50 feet of 💩 and then there's the SOCHI AUTODROM.
I forgot he said that
I’m surprised Sochi didn’t rank as high on this new list as it did in the original list.
@@FlashoftheBlades at least it's high as modern racing circuit
@@FlashoftheBlades That's because it's so bad that it even fails at being bad.
@@Kualinar Would that be a high bar or a low bar?
4:46 it looks like they were trying to recreate suzuka, but ran out of money after the first sector
They made the longest straight imaginable, realized they could never beat Mulsanne straight at Le Mans, and then remembered they had to also loop it back to complete a lap. This was the first draft and they were like, yeah, sure, whatever, we have no money anyways.
They just did the East Circuit.
Bootleg Suzuka East Circuit
honestly, the extended circuit is a gem. this smaller one on the other hand... questionable... but there's far worse down in the world.
In the race track design community, we have a saying: just because F1 races poorly on it does not make it a bad track.
The best circuits in the world IMO are FIA grade 2 or grade 3. Tracks made solely with F1 in mind are a major turn off for me.
While I agree with you 100%, the title literally says "The Worst Formula 1 Tracks Ever," not "The Worst Tracks Ever" 🤷🏾♂️
@@gokaired4973 We all know what would top that list…the Beijing A1GP street circuit.
Well the original Nurgburgring no longer accepts F1 races and the races would be poor but it's a hell of a track. So yeah, I agree
This is a truthism. Imagine an F1 race on a horse turf. The turf might be perfect for horse races, but as an F1 track, it really stinks.
Formula 1 is just like Tennis. When it's great, it's incredible. When it's not, it's legitimately great as a sleep aid.
You exactly right.
Boxing and MMA are the same way. A great fight can entertain like little else but sometimes you end up watching guys circle each for what seems like hours.
THIS
@@BiggieTrismegistus MMA is nowhere near as bad as that. Mainly due to fights being a lot shorter than boxing and especially racing. But I guess watching 15 mins of really boring fighting can feel like an eternity.
Golf, baseball, cricket, and curling are the same way.
Le Mans Bugatti is such an enigma. Terrible for F1. Great for MotoGP.
The corrugated roof over the pit lane is unforgivable though. It's outrageously loud.
I think the spacing lends itself, at least in modern era, far better to the bikes then the cars.
yeah i can see bikes doing well there, with those nice corners, really laying the bikes down hard. probably great fun to watch AND ride
At least in terms of logistics, it’s better than Paul Ricard.
The modern Bugatti circuit would be much better for F1 than the old one in 1968 cars, as long as they bypassed the chicane along the back straight.
@@davidfabish-wood5278 1967 is when the French Grand Prix was run at the Bugatti Circuit. And yes, today’s cars would be better suited to this track. Especially with the current ground effects doing something to solve the dirty air problem that was definitely a problem during the era of the flat undertray. And especially so during the narrow chassis era of 1998-2016.
My father watched the last GP in Jacarepagua, in 1989. He told me that from the stands, it was barely possible to know who was passing by and what position they were in. After the race, he came to the conclusion that it was better to watch the race on TV 😂😂😂
That save at 2:04 is fire
I cant believe ive never seen it before, clean af
How did Keke not lose a position from that
He did that deliberately, just to entertain the crowd
I guess you could say that was WICKED
keke just establishing dominance
I still think Formula 1 needs to run a Grand Prix at LeMans-LaSarthe with joint F2/F3 grids. (just 20 F1 cars running would make the track look empty AF)
Would love that
How would that even work though? They would need to create one off Le Mans cars
I think a combo joint F1/IndyCar grid at LeMans would be fun.
Le Mans isn’t a grade 1 circuit but it will cool looking ig
@@Aman-ti4qu They might get away with a extra long gearing JUST to make sure the engine doesn't redline as much.
Don't think it needs much else to survive a few dozen laps.
Basically the worst track is shaped like a hockey stick 🏒
You mean like Monza?
I'd say its closer to the head of a Putter Club.
You mean 130R?
@@borandiUK That’s a corner, not a racetrack.
I say it looks like a snake that recently ate.
"more red flags than a soviet parade" hahahahahaha
Bizarrely, Caesar's Palace Parking Lot was also home to the worst Wrestlemania, in 1993.
No, that honour goes to either the Georgia Dome or AT&T Stadium
Oh Wrestemania 9
6:08 .... Josh brother how did you just say "coup d'état" ?
We say AVUS as a word, not an acronym in german. The name is still used by everyone describing that stretch of Autobahn. Like "Ick hab wieder uffe Avus anjestann heute."
At least avus survive in our hearts..... And Google maps 😂
@@nano_iNsaneAnd as a mod for Assetto Corsa.
Und jetzt mal auf deutsch bitte
But it is the abbreviation of "Automobil-Verkehrs und ÜbungsStraße" - car traffic and proving road/track.
Racing events still took place there into the 1990s, buth without the banked north turn, at the 1990 DTM race Dieter Quester did a crazy finish: he flipped his BMW M3 on the last metres and slid across the finish line on the roof, still doing 3rd place.
Nowadays it's long gone but the main building has been preserved (serves as a Motel and Restaurant) and a Grandstand, it was rotting, but became a landmark and widely restored in the past few years.
As much as I dislike Sochi, there's one thing that I can praise about it, which is the fact that they managed to build an olympic park AND a racing circuit in the same space.
Take notes, Rio de Janeiro.
Next one in Madrid, they will build a track near a football club
I don’t mind this layout actually i5s not worst but not the best.
Well the Olympic Park was already there in Sochi, they just built the track around the facilities, In the case of Rio, they used the land where the racetrack was located to build an Olympic park, those are two completely different scenario's when it came to how the tracks were built. The racetrack in Rio was built decades before they raised it to build the Olympic park, also shortly before they raised the circuit to build the Olympic park, several bids to host F1 and IndyCar races had fallen through and with nothing other than Brazilian stock cars racing there, the tracks future was doomed. I do fondly remember the roval layout Cart used in the 90's, it made for one of the more interesting open wheel ovals being flat with no banking and trapezoid shaped.
Sochi might be boring to watch but playing it in the games got to say it's fun to drive. The long round is hard to get perfect and nailing the sharp braking points in the final sector all quite entertaining if your at the wheel.
Now it is shortened, plus renamed to Sirius Autodrom
On Zeltweg, let's just say we Austrians have a talent for creating some of the worst history has ever witnessed if nothing else. At least we learned and built a rather nice track afterwards, can recommend the ring, fun for trackdays if you can afford it. Imagine modern F1 cars and drivers on the Zeltweg track though. DRS auf so ana Streckn, bist du Moped, warat des a Gaudn.
Would love to see you cover some of the best tracks currently not being used for GP. Despite everything, I maintain that the Indianapolis Motor Speedway deserves a second chance considering how great the layout, history and facilities are. We have had far worse disasters since then at other tracks after all...
The 2022 Williams would dominate and "that could bore the fans"
2:04 that was a sick save, what the hell?
Keke Rosberg remembered in this very second, that he is from Finland, so he wanted to do a little rally-styled drift :D
It's a travesty that F1 hasn't been to Sepang in ages.
Malaysian 🇲🇾 government has no money for F1 anymore sadly 🤷♂️
@@venomau5speedz well, Mercedes could talk Petronas into bankrolling the GP.
@@marcossonicracer 🤔 🧐 🤨
@@marcossonicracer dang! You sure got a point there hmm 🤔
I have driven on Avus because its Part of the Autobahn in Berlin
The 2008-2012 Valencia circuit is actually really nice to drive in sims, so at least we have that.
very ugly and expensive, just visit Cheste track just few km away.
I am not sure the AVUS really belongs on this list in part because it is such an old track, which therefore makes it difficult to compare some contemporary circuits, and also because in the context of racing history, the AVUS is a real novelty. Especially, the banked north turn (as crazy as it seems) is absolute legend. And to fault the track for its simple layout is basically saying that oval tracks in America or even a track like the original Monza are somehow unredeemable.
Also keep in mind that the AVUS was used for F1 just once, but was a long time stable on the touring car calendar. It's proximity to Berlin actually made it a very popular venue as far as I can recall.
tbh, the racing is horrible on almost every track in modern f1 for a number of reasons such as:
- the power of drs that prevents drivers to pass in turns
- the width and length of today's f1 cars
- the difference in car performance
- you get a penalty for basically anything and everything
- having to save tyres and fuel almost all the time during the race
- the cars' aero being so fragile, they don't want to come even near another car
- racing standards declined overall in recent years, stuff like divebombs and pushing others off the track on purpose became pretty much the standard in f1
there are more probably more things i didn't think of rn, but all in all it's mostly problems exclusively to f1
Your points are generally valid, although I have to push back on a couple, the difference in car performance is closer than its ever been by a wide margin, back in the 90's a second to a second and a half wasn't a rare advantage for a pole sitter, and the difference between first and last could be several seconds even on small tracks when today is rarely more than a 2 seconds between first and last place even at places like Spa. The combination of better reliability overhaul across the grid, no refueling, and the serious lack of tires provided over a race weekend just favors the first place team, despite the fact all these rule changes, that greatly limit strategy were mostly brought in to try and make things more competitive, they have done the opposite. No one will ever do five pit stops at Magny Corpse and Montreal like Schumacher did in 96 with nothing but soft tires and low fuel tanks running qualifying laps to make up for his car being slower to get a win. I would argue that Max would have lost a few races to fuel and tire strategy if we raced by 90's rules since the gap from first to second is actually lower most weeks today than it was in the 90's.
YO that guy did a 360 and just kept going like he missed the braking zone😂
Keke Rosberg was nucking futs.
as someone who wathced F12 since 1994 and lives 20 minutes away of Zeltweg I really had a giggle when you showed the number one.
i remember my grandfather saying the "Flughafenrennen" (airportrace) was awful, so they had to build a proper racing track.
thanks for the awesome video.
Nivelles-Baulers was originally supposed to have a longer layout with long swooping corners, but the nearby property owners raised the price of the land when they heard what it was going to be used for, which led to them not buying it at all, and instead settling on a worse shorter layout.
That track sure got the Royal Screwjob.
I did some races there as part of the Dutch motorcycle championship. The long loop was actually quit fun to drive as it went on and on, but the rest of the track was rather boring.
Josh, I am highly disappointed that the Phoenix Street Circuit from 1989-1991 didn't even get an honorable mention. The track is just 90 degree turns but I guess the 1990 fight between Jean Alesi's Tyrrell and Ayrton Senna's McLaren saved it.
That had A saving grace. Dallas and Caeser's Palace don't even have remotely a single thing to save them.
Phoenix is nowhere near as bad as the ones on this list.
I saw the Avus layout and started wheezing. It looks like Symmons Plains but it was designed by a drunk guy who just knew that it had a hard hairpin in it
AVUS (Automobile traffic and practice road) was among the first paved roads anywhere in the world. Construction started before WW1, paused during the war, and was finished in 1921. Most other racetracks built around this time were made out of bricks. Engineers and drivers used it to break 200km/h before the second world war started. The layout F1 raced was less than half the length of the original 10 km stretch of a dual highway, making the original layout almost as long as the Nürburgring. AVUS had faster average lap speeds in 1930s than Monza or Indy had in 1950s.
Looks like Josh is back on track 😂
I see what you did there
Surprised he didnt bring up the Indianapolis Motor Speedway. Funnily enough, despite F1 really hating on or even getting confused with oval racing, F1 raced in the Indy 500 with actual points on the line
This gets my vote because Indy has the most deaths of any F1 track. They are all from those 500s in the 50s.
The avus is a public road now and i drive it every day to work 🤟🏻😅
Avus was always part public road, it was built as part of the autobahn, the only part that wasn't public was the wall of death and the hairpin at the other end, the straightaways were just either side of the freeway. .
@@chrish931 today it's limited at 80kmh in the beginning and 100kmh further on the straight
@@KN3TO Cool, so its not on a stretch with no speed limit. It be cool to get to drive Avus as well as other parts of the autobahn in real life, I doubt I will ever have the money to go to Germany and Europe though.
@@chrish931 there is a lot of traffic. It's like the main entrance highway to get into Berlin from the south, so it's not really possible to have no speed limit.
@chrish931 the majority drives between 130-160kmh regardless of speed limit anyway. But to have fun you could go paddle to the metal if it's empty.
We're going back to 2019 boys
Just been to the Nivelles-Baulers track for a project and even though it was indeed an awful track, nothing remains of it as of today and it has become an industrial park. Kind of sad considering it was in F1 at some point. Also, barely anyone in Belgium even knows it ever existed.
In GT Legends I used Avus to test the toospeed of cars, to find the fastes car in the game. I think it was a Merc... good ol times🙂
14:26 Had me in the first half, not gonna lie.
Fun fact: the Detroit and Caesar's Palace circuits didn't die immediately after Formula 1 left.
Detroit Street Circuit carried on as an IndyCar race for 3 years (with many of the same problems) before they moved the race to Belle Isle. The race moved back downtown in 2023 to a new circuit sharing some of the layout from the original F1 circuit - including possibly the most ridiculous pitlane ever conceived.
Caesar's Palace lived on in the IndyCar (CART) series for 2 more years - as the season finale - using a modified 5-turn distorted oval layout, basically the F1 layout with the infield loops removed. There were still problems with heat and sand but the races were surprisingly good. Michael Andretti made his debut there in 1983.
I miss the pre-2010 version of Silverstone.
The bridge section need to return
Because the new one is the worse?
@@gaborfegyver4880 not exactly a fan of the new one. I'm not saying it's bad.
@@gaborfegyver4880 it's not bad... but the Bridge corner was better. if only we could have both sections connected somehow...
@@marcossonicracerThe old version of Stowe and all that section up to and through Bridge should have been left. They can leave Wellington and those bits for saloon car racing, or karts.
I don't know about Detroit. A real challenge to complete a race.
“Like a sharing a water bed with a baboon that’s been drenched in itching powder “
Love the early top gear reference there
Heard it in St Clarkson’s voice lol 16:45
The first F1 race I attended in person was the last race in Detroit, 1988. Senna won, there were three cars on the lead lap at the finish. Most of the field retired with damage, the pavement broke up all weekend, and it was about 300 degrees in the shade. The course was mostly straights with 90* corners, surrounded by office buildings. Its hard to imagine a worse race. Still, it was a great weekend, I got to see the MP 4/4 up close,and the clubs across the river in Windsor were epic.
I was worried you were going to say the Vegas GP was one of the worst, and then immediately realized I was dumb for forgetting my single most hated circuit at Caesar’s Palace
Wow a remake of the OG video but with the more modern editing????
personally, I find the sleepiness during races has more do do with the race being held at 1-4am local time.
12:50 I remember the Detroit street circuit and it's variants being in Race Driver GRID, and I thought it was a fantastic circuit to race on, lots of fun tight corners, plenty of decent straights where things like the C6R Vette could have sick drags with Saleens and DB9Rs and just wide enough to have some threatening room but not too much that passing was super easy; admittedly the virtual track didnt have crappy asphalt. That track, the Washington Street circuit, the Shibuya drift course and the fictional San Fran one are all core racing game memories lol.
How is Sochi #4 bro it should be #1
Wow that airfield…you could do so much more interesting layouts with that….not good mind you, but better.
Cleveland's airport circuit is a good example of that. Though simple on paper, it produced exciting races and is a cult classic.
Sounds to me like they wanted to use the rest of the runway still 🤷♂️ to get out of there haha 😂
The fact that Monza didn't make this list, especially in the modern era is insane.
tbf I love driving hotlaps at Sochi, but that's it
I disagree that Sochi is worse than Abu Dhabi. Sochi at least had one or two good dry races and the POSSIBILITY of having wet races. Turn 3 is actually a good and unique corner which has had a good amount of action in it. And it's never been a race which, at the time the race happened, mattered much in terms of the excitement of the championship.
Abu Dhabi literally doesn't have a single redeeming feature about it. There's not a corner I'd consider good. The only memorable part of the track layout is how shit the 'street circuit' part is. If it wasn't placed as the last race of the season, everyone would've not wanted to watch it. The only reason it EVER got ANY action, was because of the championship battles for being the last race of the season. And I'd argue, the redesign didn't help much, if any. There's still a reason why every meme video except 2016/2021 has "5 LIGHTS AND AWAY WE GO, VERSTAPPEN/HAMILTON WINS". Nothing. Ever. Happens. You can't say that for Sochi.
The 2012 race at Abu Dhabi was fantastic, it's the only saving grace for it.
He says nervously as he wants to visit it one day.. maybe 2025 😬
More frustrating than the worst F1 tracks are the iconic circuits we never visit. We race around a carpark in Vegas and navigate the Miami Autodrome, yet tracks like Watkins Glen and Long Beach are left untouched. #BringBackTheGlen
Where is a circuit in LB? You mean that crap street circuit?
@@ronbelanger4113 No. The circuit with history.
I'd rather they didn't. I'd rather IndyCar went back to Watkins Glen than F1. They'd probably require changes to both circuits which would ruin them.
#MakeitFIAgrade1then 😂 👍
Keke Rosberg won a GP on three of these tracks (Dallas, Detroit, Dijon) and clinched a championship on a another one (Caesar's Palace).
I’ve always wondered what a modern f1 car would be like on Avus. It would likely be terrifying to drive but really fun to watch
i liked the Sochi Course on f1 Games
I massively agree with this comment!!! Always enjoyed it on the game!!
Granted my experience is limited to F1 2015, but I absolutely hate that track. The cars already feel like understeer city in comparison to the previous cars but that track really brings it out. I imagine in the 2017 cars that its probably far from an exercise in self-harm, but in the car before them its unbearable. There is just no flow to it and its that classic case of being flatter then a Carbonated beverage that's been left out in the open.
Actually the first track I thought about was Sochi 🤣
I grew up in Zeltweg 🤣 ❤ (about a 10 minutes walk away from the airfield)
0:05 I was sick this week and literally used the China GP on sunday to fall asleep 💀
"Yas Marina was custom made to ward of excitement" - Chain Bear
Can't believe that you made a worst tracks video and didn't even mention Monaco
Haha I was almost expecting it to be #1
As an IndyCar fan it's funny to hear about tracks being "too bumpy" because almost every non-oval is bumpy.
Fontana (when it was raced in 2015) and Iowa are pretty bumpy too.
@@RacingAtHome How do I forget Iowa? That has to be the bumpiest oval track to actually work.
the Zeltweg circuit is what happens when you try to replicate Silverstone.
Silverstone works because the circuit is built AROUND the airfield (and gradually evolving that also saw bits of that airfield torn for circuit estate).
Zeltweg did not work because someone had the bright idea of building the circuit ON TOP of the airfield.
still, gotta give the Austrians credit for trying, and it paved the way to the creation of the more successful A1/Red Bull Circuit.
I gotta say though... that clip from LB of the car snapping around, spinning a bit, then continuing on while in a bit of traffic, that was pretty neat to see. But that is more driver then track.
Another remake of a classic
As an Austrian, I'm very content to see Fliegerhorst Hinterstoisser atop the list. Wanted it to be there, didn't expect it though.
To be fair, Sochi at the time was the only Grade 1 track in Russia. Igora Drive recieved it's Grade 1 classification only in 2020, and was going to host 2023 Russian GP, but then FIA and FOM suddenly found morals.
Worst current track: Monaco. I understand that simply staying out of the wall is extremely difficult, but we watch a race to see cars battling each other for position. And that is borderline impossible around Monaco. And if you can't overtake, there will be no entertainment. The last two races there have been decent, but that's only because of rain coming and going. Without changeable conditions, they would have been completely dead.
100% agree.
Boring snoozefest every year
Funny thing is, Formula E at Monaco is one of the most entertaining races on their calendar.
The car is too big for the track
@@BiffGreggleI'll be watching this weekend. Maybe they should have F1 drivers do the grand prix in Formula E cars?
Valencia.. Man that place was ass
I've driven Detroit in AC - specifically the post-1988 version CART ran that had removed the awful chicane.
I found it a blast to hotlap, but I admit that passing cars was a nightmare.
I cannot claim to be an expert on track design, but I can comfortably say that a track that looks like a "rooster" is inexplicably, unexcusable bad.
I'll never forgive everyone and anyone who destroyed Hockenheim.
I raced in video racing games on both loops of Hockenheim. For me, the new one is better than old, with just drag race straights and zig-zags in the forest. Hockenheim is not the best track in the world, but it's quite ok.
I hate new one. But they should have kept old and new as an options
The thing is, as bad as some tracks are (Catalunya), they would be a whole lot better if the size of the cars were reduced. For the most part, F1 cars have followed a very similar design philosophy and upon first glance a car from 2024 really does not look that different to one from 2004 with the exception of things like removal of certain aero parts and addition of stuff like the halo and DRS,
Then you put them next to each other and it is like putting a Mini next to a Hummer.
Even the more modern Tilke tracks are designed for smaller cars.
The worry is, when the new rules come in in 2026, there is a strong chance they will get even bigger.
Apparently it's all the safety equipment which has forced the cars to get so big! Not 100% sure if that's completely correct though...
"So we designed a race with these two HUGE straights and a corner which leans on a 45 degree angle and has a drop on the other side"
"okay pretty weird, so how much fencing do you need?"
"Fencing?"
not the brightest people were they.
16:39 this is epic tho.
I'm a simple man; Josh Revell uploads, I watch
I'm going to argue that Monaco is worse because it used to be good lol. So we have this whole legacy that we can't ignore because racing there is tradition, but nobody has actually *raced* there in YEARS. It makes F1 very little money, but you can't get rid of it because the old guys will start crying about "first they came for the V12's, now they're coming for Monaco."
It's an expensive, boring nightmare lol.
At least the other shitty tracks didn't stick to the sport like super glue lol.
It's even worse than that. It inspires other cities to try F1, cities who all point at Monaco, and say "If they can make it work, SO CAN WE!", not understanding that Monaco works under a very special set of circumstances, and still doesn't make ANY money. Firstly, most venues PAY F1 to race there. Not Monaco. Secondly, most cities have to at least break-even on an event, or it WILL be shut down. Not Monaco. Monaco makes it's money from gambling. The GP is just an advertising expense.
Thanks for recognizing Zeltweg.
The similes in these video's always get me! Keep up the work
S🅱️inalla
11:25 Sochi is such a good track 😢
We should try setting the grid by vibes again :) could be a lot of fun
Sochi is home to one of my favorite Alonso moments. Skipping the first braking zone and running wide into the run off area and then rejoining for turn 2. He pulled off like 5 overtakes with that move.
I still would add Monaco to it. It is just Glizz and Glamour, but not real racing until somebody tears out their suspension
That’s not true!
Monaco consistently made for some of the best racing in f1 up until the late 90s, but the cars got way larger and the track isn’t suited for modern f1 cars.
Ps. It’s the cars fault, not the track itself
okay, Monaco was crap for 30 ish years now. Let's keep it forever then
The racing at Monaco is deathly boring.
@@sauwercraud I didn’t say that, but calling Monaco a shit track is just wrong
Monaco is special in F1 because of the amount of history it holds but its mostly F1s fault for making the cars larger.
F1 doesnt really know this but the only way to have a really good race in monaco is if its raining, there are actually real on track passes happening when its wet. When its dry its a bore fest. 2022 an 2023 were prime examples.
2023 wouldve been nominated for best race of the year if alonso didnt bottle the strategy for himself. Couldve won that race
Hot Take: They shoulda went to Daytona instead of Miami!
And screw the sports car course. I want them on that tri-oval.
Thats a grade 2 track. I dont think anyone would be happy if they upgraded it to a grade 1
I'm protesting Avus being on this list. It was something else and the drafting battles must have been unreal.
I'd never heard of Zeltweg track ! Yeah , looks terrible.
Before I'd watched your video , I'd remembered the Caesar's Palace Car Park track being truly awful and thought "That's got to be the worst! "
so I got to number 2 , and was surprised that's where you'd rated Caesar's Palace Car Park , and then wondered "What could be worse ?" .
It seems like you're correct, Zeltweg was worse !
I maintain that Monaco is one of the worst tracks... You don't get any actual racing there... it's literally just a 2 hour parade lap. With the cars now being as wide as they are, it's almost impossible to overtake anywhere but the start/finish straight.
Shocked it didn’t make it in. Worst circuit on the calendar. Like you said, no racing at all-nothing interesting.
Glad to see Monaco will finally get some love 😤
So what do we reckon? Newey to Andretti? That'd maybe get them a spot.
Years watching different motorsport races taught me that the most important factor for boring races is not the track itself but the cars/bikes.
In recent years, many F1 races are boring because the cars/environment. Excessive downforce with excessive grip tyres means excessive total grip in corners and braking, doing it difficult to overtake for the best drivers and making the driving less subtle and more "brutal".
F1 are more like karts than cars, and the driving style is very different to drive actual cars. If i had to choose a driver for a fast travel on a road, I would choose a rally driver or a touring car racing driver instead of an F1 driver.
Second factor is the environment . IMO, the constant nursing of "engineers" telling drivers what to do, how to manage the race and, even, how to drive the cars makes me angry! I think it should be out of place in a professional sport to , supposedly, crown the best racing driver in the world.
It makes races boring because it removes skills and possibke errors from drivers. Without that unwanted help, races would be more interesting, and we would see who are really the best drivers.
In comparison, MotoGP and Superbikes make very interesting racing in any track, no matter how wacky it is. They, especially SBK, have the right racing spirit, not the megacorporative/marketing of current F1.
Airfields can make EPIC tracks... CARTS Cleveland Grand Prix was one of the best race tracks ever!
Don't forget Sebring
It's not better than Silverstone.....
@@carlhague9102 I've raced there many times. A great track but it was never like Cleveland where you could go 5 wide into a turn.
@@raptor1672 Silverstone is at an airfiedl but are you really racing on runways and taxiways?
Monaco.
You’re welcome.
Was scrolling down to type the same thing.
Yeah, but that offers a fun challenge.
Caesars Palace track you're welcome
Surprised that Monaco didn't get an honourable mention. Not top 10 worst but honourable mention for sure. If it wasnt for the history and glitz it would utterly terrible
Interestingly the Belgian track was supposed to have an additional loop at the end of the lap but they ran out of time and money
And the farmer owning that land didn't want to sell.
Taking no Valencia slander, I loved it in the games 😭
Might be my most driven track on F1 2010 i loved it so much. That last sector had insane flow ❤
Earned slander, I think Valencia 2010 was a race with *0* overtakes, and somehow everything was downhill from there, the only saving grace was a mega win from Alonso in 2012
I cant belive you got rid of the bitmoji and annoying stock music loop. What a demake
Personally for me, I get that Sochi is a bit lifeless but I think the track is really good. Has great overtaking and has had good races
I love Soshi, underrated cirquit
I have no idea about 98% of these but just the same glad you didn’t dish the current day Spa track nor Monaco. I still contend until Las Vegas the Monaco GP of 2023 was the best race of that year until Las Vegas with its midnight start and kicking fans out due to a 2AM curfew after a sea of red flags and a manhole cover debacle led to several delays and the start. Must be nice to pay $115k for a 3 day race package that starts at midnight just to get booted out of your seat 2 hours later after only seeing 15 mins of FP action… Yet heard the race was good? I watched bits of it at 2AMm my time. Seemed meh to me. But what do I know. I just selected the track everyone hates as the best race of ‘23! M. Well done F1. France (Riccard) does need to be on the top 10.