*I'm gonna listen to Logan's guitars because he played epic guitars. Period.* I wouldn't like him personally, but his contribution to the Albums is fucking great, and not listening to them because of what he had somewhere on his computer is absurd.
Kids were/are being victimized for the consumption of pieces of shit like Karl Logan. Fuck his guitar playing. "What he had somewhere on his computer" complete bullshit.
@Meister Dejv not just terrible tone, always felt his intonation is off. Dislike his bending and vibrato. But he was quite melodic, and has written some of the finest metal solos.
@@davorbrijacak Joey always lowers the guitar in concerts, for fome reason he thinks the loud distorted bass matter more than the guitar, while both should be at the same level. Maybe an ego stuff .
@@PandaInforma It's an ego for sure knowing his personality. Even his bass is often piccolo bass played mostly like guitar, heavily distorted, while guitar is too bassy and scooped so it doesn't have as much presence in the mix.
Manowar will always be a great band. They never fell (all bands have problems). In Europe they are practically likened to that of Beatlemania. Every festival they play they are the mandatory headliners. They have conventions all over the world. Every record was true to form HEAVY METAL. Millions of fans have Manowar tats. In Brazil they headline over Slayer. In the 90's they were one of the only bands that had the balls to still call themselves HEAVY METAL (and they were/are ). Every show they play they bring a custom P.A. They've literally lost money just to play in areas as a special treat to their beloved fans. Better known as Manowarriors. If that's failure or a down fall? So be it. When the record companies offered more money to change their style they said f$%k you and became even more successful. HAIL AND KILL !!!
Agreed brother. Manowar are HUGE across Europe and South America. They had their own festival at one point. And til this day they sell out arenas with no support bands and high ticket prices. Their fans are extremely loyal.
I've recently seen them some years ago in Berlin in a small club and they sucked. Taking any pitcures was strictly forbidden and Joey spoke more in between songs than he played. Content-free speaches like "f*** politics, f*** school, bla bla bla ..." for over several minutes ever two songs or so. They rather should have played their material. It was maybe one hour of music for way too much money. And I've seen hundreds of other concerts of small and huge bands alike to have a comparison.
@@metallicblood True, I regards to the fact there's a lot of great Rock N Roll and Heavy Metal bands especially out of the 80s (my personal favorite time period). Manowar seems to not be your thing. IMHO opinion Manowar has put out some legendary records. Especially with Ross The Boss on guitar. Along with his songwriting.
Manowar will always be a legendary band. Its all about the music in the end, and they make great music. They also have some of the best live shows ever. They have had enough success to retire comfortable. There attitude is what got them where they are today. They still have many loyal fans all over the world. Something being popular in America isn`t always a good thing, look at that shit they call "Rap music" for instance. peace out
What really annoyed me was them doing a "The Final Battle" tour starting in 2016 and advertising it as their final tour and the band ending after it's over. The actual wording in the original 2016 press release was: "The Gods And Kings Tour was a groundbreaking moment in our career. The stage, sound, video and you, our fans, were magnificent! Coming off such an amazing tour it was clear that the next time we must go even bigger and beyond anything we have ever done; something that will fulfill every Manowarrior’s dreams. Then that will be the ultimate moment to say Thank You and farewell! The Final Battle will begin in Germany and take us all over the world to say goodbye to all of you.." Eric Adams also said in an interview "I'm gonna miss the big stage - of course I am - but all good things have to come to an end at some point." Then they milked this "farewell" tour for all it was worth. It went on for 3-4 years, only for them to finally end it and then announce a 40th Anniversary Tour! When Joey was asked in an interview about the fans thinking the band was breaking up, he responded: "We never announced the end of MANOWAR; we didn't even plan to never tour again."
Many old legendary bands are doing it nowadays. It has to be a good marketing strategy, many people go out of their way to see the band before they "break up", thinking this is their final chance to do so. I even remember Judas Priest saying that in 2011 but still they play live and record new record, even if Tipton can't so Andy Sneap tours instead. Deep Purple was supposed to have a final tour in 2017 yet they still play, despite saying how they would only do studio records. I know you can change your mind but this seems like a bullshit marketing strategy.
Ross was asked to leave by Joey. He wanted full control. Plus Ross even stated in interviews that he wouldn't have lasted. He wasn't gonna be dictated to by anyone. Plus he was really disgusted when they released Pleasure Slave.
Incidentally the first 6 records are considered by many their greatest achievements .. If those 6 records didn't exist .. They would never be the icons they are now .. Ross deserves way more credit than he ever got .. Btw his solo band that plays Manowar still to this day is incredible ... ( and ) it's not really a cover band because Ross wrote all those songs ..
@@danadane2501 yes they are. And all really nice guys. Their newest album is fantastic. And Ross is currently working on new stuff for Death Dealer or the Dictators. And once this whole lockdown is over He'll be back on tour. Those first 6 are the foundation of Manowar. But I'm also a HUGE fan of the next era. The Triumph of Steel with David and Rhino is probably my favorite. Both David and Rhino are really cool guys and still very active. Be on the lookout for lots of new stuff from them both.
@@themadmattster9647 Yep I've learned a long time ago to avoid discussing politics and religion among friends .. That's a full proof way to mess up a great relationship ... Personal , professional or otherwise .. Btw from what I've seen Ross comes across as being one of the most humble down to earth Heavy Metal LEGENDS I've ever seen ...
Ross said he was ASKED to leave, so basically fired by Joey before the Kings Of Metal tour started. And Joey concoted the silly story that Ross went to pursue blues. The same stuff happened in 1990 with Scott, and Joey peddling story about Scott's kid being sick. Unfortunately, Scott backed up Demaio's untrue version in 1999 Hell On Earth video, saying that he got back to Manowar after his kid recuperated. Only in his 2010 interview he set the record straight that his son had never been sick in the first place. So it was all a Joey's scheme to keep fans in the dark and not rebelling
@Mike I always thought that was the reason why Ross was a great guitar player but yeah the bluey licks were always gonna very limited, Joey even in the early days always had a knack for playing really fast even in the early days and Ross wasn't capable of that, I think Joey wanted somebody who could shred in the same pace that he could, It seems like every metal band in the late eighties had to have a shredder guitar player
@Mike I think Dave played that well on the record cos Joey runs the show. His vision sustained Man0waR ! Dave has produced nothing of much value since Man0waR. If Eric went solo, he probably wouldn't have survived without Joey's songwriting prowess. No Man0waR member did that well outside the band and that tells us what a tight ship Joey runs and how instrumental he is for the sound of Man0waR.
@Radio Żelaza I won't disagree but I don't find myself listening to them. I've seen him live play Man0waR songs and that was one of the best nights of my life.
@Mike a lot of people say that the best album but there's too much that they had to do to get that album literally had to get rid of half of the band to get that fast driven style and they never really touched on any songs from that except for Metal Warriors, Rhino was a phenomenal drummer he was perfect for that band and then when they got Scott back and they got Karl Logan it's like they couldn't be fast but they could still be technical, but obviously Scott couldn't play that fast, I think that's possibly why the modern Manowar albums sound kind of odd
OK, this was my personal experience w/ Manowar, as a fan... I had heard for decades that they were 'the loudest band on Earth'... I bought all their CD's and DVD's and was crushed every time a new record emerged that they did not tour the USA. Over the years, I had seen Dragonforce, Mayhem, Sabaton, Enslaved, Amon Amarth, Death Angel, Behemoth, Arch Enemy, Cannibal Corpse, Nightwish, Slayer, Exodus, Motorhead, Machine Head, Napalm Death, Blind Guardian, Epica ... old and new metal bands, crank out records regularly and tour the States relentlessly... playing clubs for little money, and then the ball gets rolling and they move up to bigger venues and successful tours as they build up their fanbase. Finally, Manowar announced a US tour in 2014 for a handful of shows... I paid $100 for my ticket and was jazzed they would play the entire 'Kings of metal' album. I expected them to blow me away... this is what I got: 1) No opening band, and Manowar barely played 1 and half hrs. 2) Security would not allow any photographs. 3) The band's volume from the stage was so low that I didn't even need earplugs. 4) Joey DeMaio ranted on stage for a few minutes bragging about Manowar to an underwhelmed crowd. 5) None of the members would meet the fans after the show - a lot of post-concert grumbling... 6) Adding insult to injury, later US shows were cancelled. At the end of the day, it was a very deflating experience w/ a band I had been a fan of since the 90's. In contrast... I saw Machine Head in 2015 pack the same venue, play 20 songs over 2 hours and kept the crowd engaged and moshing and they charged less for than half of what Manowar did. No matter who is in the band, Robb Flynn has proved himself to be a dedicated metalhead who caters to the fans. It seems more like Manowar cater to themselves and the fans enthusiasm is expected, not earned... Amon Amarth has been crushing the States for decades and now, they are one of the biggest metal bands because of their sheer workload and dedication to making metal and fans happy.
Это очень странно. Я был на их концерте в Москве в 2019 году. Звук отличный. Такая мощность что у меня шевелилась одежда. Было много песен, как новых так и старых.
When I saw them in 2005, Joey DeMaio went on a long rant about how the club owner was a piece of shit. From a business perspective I imagine someone like Joey must be a pain in the ass to work with. The other ironic thing is that for a band that sings about metal brotherhood, they seem to be completely disconnected from their peers in the metal community.
I saw an interview in Sweden with Lemmy, dio and DemAio. When asking about heavy metal, dio and lemmy would refer the question to DemAio: I sensed they had no respect for him
I didn´t take seriously your critics because Manowar´s classic songs are already there, they are part of Power Metal Olympus: Battle hymn, Blood of my enemies, Kill with power, etc...true hymns of melodic Metal and no one could ever deny Manowar´s influence on other great European Metal bands that came after. Their throne was won by them long ago.
Wouldn't surprise me if DeMaio has similar tastes to Logan but wasn't caught. I mean, that guy is weird, whenever he's kissing chicks on stage it's obvious they're some paid hookers but acts like they're fans/groupies.
One of the reasons why Ross was fired, was because he was disagreeing with Joey about this alienation from the scene. Joey did that in purpose, Ross did not like it, so he had to go. Manowar claimed he left in his own, but it's a lie. One of many.
I haven't listened to any newer releases but I have to say that Manowar has a couple of stellar albums that I absolutely love. Battle Hymns, Into Glory Ride, Hail to England, Sign of the Hammer and Triumph of Steel to be exact. Triumph of Steel mainly because it was the first I heard, but the others because they are truly unique. Legendary metal albums. EDIT: I don't listen to new albums of any of my old favorite bands to be honest. Not just Manowar, so it's not because it's bad... I just don't feel the need.
Been a fan since the early 80's , saw them in the UK several times on their first tour and a lot of times since. Will be flying over to Germany from the US in a few weeks to catch 5 gigs. Now that Logans gone theres only two original members left, the other two are now from a Manowar tribute band! Will be interesting for sure to see what the band are like now. I used to love the way Joey ran around stage twirling about and slamming his guitar etc etc, now he just stands there motionless! i know they're all getting older. Have to alsosay, i saw Ross The Boss in PA last year at a gig with no more than 50 people where he played a full Manowar set and it was fantastic! what an amazing guy! hung out with the fans after the show and was such a down to earth person. I'm looking forward to the German shows but a=I'm more excited for when Ross releases some more dates for the US this year:) Hail & Kill :)
hes definitely a down to earth person (Ross). I get the idea that Eric Adams is pretty down to earth as well, but kind of just goes along with (enables) what Joey does in regards to the band.
I totally agree with with you. I love them and will keep listening to them. I just saw them this February in Bremen, Germany, the gig was amaaazing! the best I have seen so far ( I have seen them four times already) but I am not a blind fan and can tell somethings are not right, all because Joey´s attitude.
I think their problem is/was that the whole schtick was a bit too buffoonish. Here in Europe in the 80s with our limited English it was great to sing along to Carry On, Black Wind Fire and Steel and Brothers of Metal. Simple, catchy, epic. But the band never evolved thematically. My first ever concert was in the Louder than Hell tour when they came to my home town in Spain. It was disappointing, the band was great, but the show was short. When they came to Spain later, nobody wanted to organize trips to their gigs in nearby places. The production of their first ever live record, Hell on Wheels, is truly atrocious and I was so disappointed when I bought it that I was put off for a long time.
Huge Manowar fan here and I cannot disagree with anything you say. Very insightfull and interesting hearing you talk about this. So you have done a Danzig video too? One of my other absolute favourite bands. Gotta check that out too. Hope those fucking death threats end though. People....
As long as Manowar released great albums every couple of years they could get away with being full of themselves (or that image). But once the albums started to come out more rarely and have more filler I kind of started to shy away a little. When I discovered them with the Hell of Steel it's probably the strongest album experience I've ever had and it saddens me a little that that same band released an album as bland as the Lord of Steel. That being said, Sword of the Highlands is a truly great song so Joey can still give us a golden nugget every now and then.
yeah I think the album had 3-4 good songs, but odd production choices. I have a different opinion though since I liked the Metal Hammer version more, the "retail" sounded very am radioish to me.
The last incredible album was “Triumph of Steel”. I do like certain songs here and there. Warriors of the World had some great moments. Somewhere they lost the ability to have good riffs. Also the subject matter and lyrics are such shit now. The early stuff was so cool...Guyana, Battle Hymns, Shell Shock, Violence and Bloodshed. Now the songs all have to mention gates of Hell, rise from hell..blood on my Steel, you will die, go to Valhalla...all means nothing, no point. Those new final battle songs are a fucking joke. I could write something better in 5 minutes....
Yes. I very much liked their mythology/heathenish side of lyrics, and the Illiad on ToS was the last great hurrah in this way. After that it felt like they brought more Odin and more Asgard and more Valhalla but as if quantity was the objective. I miss songs like Thor as especially Mountains. Manowar were my "gateway drug" to nordic mythology and I became Asatru, discovered all the heathen metal starting with Bathory, there is no contest on the lyrics depth for me. I still listen to the ToS and older albums though.
OK, so I watched the vid. I was right: as I said in my 1st, longer comment, this guy didn't say a word about the fact that Americans don't like traditional metal or "true metal," in de Maio's words. Also, here's a logical fallacy: he says that Manowar supposedly had an arrogant attitude towards US bands, which alienated them from the US fanbase. But, if they were arrogant & difficult to work with, would they *not* also be difficult to work with in Europe? The argument makes no sense at all. And even if it was the case that they were hard to work with, with US bands, why would this affect how fans viewed them? The fans would not know anything about the behind-the-scenes happenings between bands, anyway. Like I said, my 1st comment explains the real reason why Manowar have a far smaller fan base in the US that the rest of the world: Americans don't like classic metal, but thrash and blues. manowar's sound is "too european" for the Americans.
you make some great points but just imagine seeing Manowar tour with someone like Symphony X in the states for a 40 dollar ticket (at most). Never would happen, and that's my point, they could have allowed themselves to be more humble as far as their productions go (not that their productions are THAT extravagant) and alas, had a better REPUTATION in the us, not just being able to sell more tickets or albums, etc. You talk to Ross himself and he will acknowledge some of these mistakes as well. He plays CLUBS and will talk with the fans without any pretension unlike his former band.
The lawsuit with Rhapsody of Fire, along with some other statements by other bands give the impression that European bands also find it hard to work with Manowar (not to mention the recent Hellfest debacle)
If you guys didn't know, Hellfest did not provide nearly enough facilities to accommodate Manowar and their crew, despite agreeing to a pre-determined arrangement. I've also heard their staff were extremely rude to Manowar's road crew, which just isn't cool
Unlike Europeans, Japanese, South Americans, etc., Americans don't "get" or like trad, classically-influenced metal; they like thrash & blues-based rock. That's why, even though just as good as Judas Priest, maybe even better according to some, Iron Maiden is just not as popular in the US as Priest. And where Maiden *is* mentioned, it's almost ALWAYS thru a comment of this sort "Yeah, how about that Number of the Beast?!!" And my (hypothetical) reply always is: "You mean, this is the *only* album you know out of a discography of 16 albums, many of which are far better & more "true metal" than NOTB?" This is a very great mystery, since on the entire *planet* (except for US & its blind follower AUS) the opposite applies: Maiden is almost universally considered the 'best of all time.' But JP are more liked in the US bc they have a more bluesy/thrashy sound, whereas Maiden have a classical sound, coming from the Deep Purple school of rock/metal. Speaking of Purple, again, in *every* country except the US (and its brainless, nondescript copycat, Australia where i sadly reside) it's practically an unwritten law that Ritchie Blackmore is the best guitarist of all time, the man most responsible for inspiring what we now know as "metal solos" & the NWOBH sound in general, as well as power metal, ultimately. The US fans seem to not comprehend this objective truth, and instead, focus, again, on blues-based guitar heroes, such as Jimmy Page, Jeff Beck, etc., while completely throwing Ritchie under the bus (Note: Page is a God & Zeppelin is best band ever, so I'm not anti-Zep, but they are explicitly not metal in the least, but hard rock). Even if RB's sound is more "metal" & by far the most technically proficient rock/metal guitarist of the 70ies, if not ever. And since, ofc, Manowar is the most "European" sounding metal band that America has ever produced (if you didn't know, upon first hearing them, you'd naturally assume they're a German or a NWOBH band or something) their sound is naturally not going to be as popular with the American metal audiences, who nauseatingly have a strong liking for "false metal" (i.e. anything BUT the trad NWOBH sound or the classically-themed Deep Purple sound, which later spawned power metal, another inexplicably "hated" genre in the US). This IS the explanation (I know cause I'm European who now lives in AU & have compared the polar opposite metal scenes in both countries). I haven't even watched the vid yet lol, but I imagine he doesn't even mention any of this stuff.
Iron Maiden play relatively large places like Tinley Park Holywood Casino (2019) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollywood_Casino_Amphitheatre_(Tinley_Park,_Illinois), and last time had not too many openers, while Judas Priest usually tours with package tours like last time with Deep Purple. I agree that the type of metal you describe is not as popular in the US, but I think Manowar could've been a larger band for that exact style considering their longevity and choices they made back in the day.
@@andyisalwaysanxious8599 The point is being a Warrior and Metalhead. Judas Priest are my second favourite band after Manowar. Alot of Rob Halford's outfits were cringe, but the music spoke for itself. Manowar is the same, and the whole Loincloth thing was their way of being individual back in the 80s. 30 years of their 40 year career have been spent in biker leather and Armour A bit like a band you mentioned a minute ago, good old Priest, who started out wearing hippie clothes
The retail version of The Lord Of Steel sounded like that because they had to somehow reduce that awful Joey's bass sound everybody was complaining about without remixing the whole album. So they just turned treble down on the stereo masters, that's what I guess. A complete failure of a production. Joey had either gone deaf or dumb to choose such a bass tone for that album...
They still make good music; their own anti harmonic way. Not every single piece is a diamond for sure. This goes for any band and artist ever walked this earth. They are all simple humans. It is the fans and anti-fans that , hillariously, exegarate anything out of too much love/hate. The attitude of the musicans part is mostly for the show; entertainment. (Fix match) You know at many videos and shows Joey makes fun of their concept and even himself. Any entertainer who roleplays to be an artist does that. I laugh even harder when some bozos show up and tell how mature a musician is or judge the quality of the music by how many notes, tabs and the number of instruments are used and how hard it is to play. Nothing is hard to play with proper practice. The music industry is business. Seriously I am an ancient rock and metal fan and musician myself (listening to and practicing many other type of music aswell), but what I think is the fan/anti-fan community (at anything not only music) is the true ass. The bands are only the entertainers and what they do is only roleplaying. It is show business. They are all ordinary guys.
ARE YOU KIDDING??? THE METAL HAMMER VERSION SOUNDS DIFFERENT THAN THE OTHER ONE?!? The one I have sounds terrible production wise. I would like to hear the other one and also wonder WHY?? WHY was such a crap done?
@@themadmattster9647 yes, the metal hammer version sounds like a pre master or 98% finished mix, but still way better than the one from the store which is just muff... don´t know if this is an international thing, but it reminded me on Dolby B & C on cassettes. Just cutting away all highs and parts of the mids... Don´t know who made that final decision for the album... There are good songs on it, but the production really is an accident... Will now try to get the Hammer Edition, although these versions are on yt as well.
When Ross was forced out of the band after Kings of Metal, I lost all interest in the band. If it wasn't for Ross and his connections, they never would have been signed in the first place. Ross was the co-founder of the band and their best material is when he was in the band. Joey's ego is the sole reason why Manowar fell.
I like a lot of the Logan era stuff but I think bad decisions by Joey are paramount in why they’re not even at the career level of say, Helloween for example
Dude. I’m one of the most hardcore ManowaR fans around. And couldn’t agree more. I’m so sad to what happened to this band. When I was 15-20 I thought demaio was cool. But now that I’m 37 I’m seeing all the wrong choices they made, the bad marketing, the crappy production in lord of steel...i mean ok...fuck the world but...with some tact. Demaio ruined the band. I met all the other members and they are so cool and also sad about ManowaR and their fate.
True that Lord of Steel was below standard. But Righteous Glory is great. I think they recovered though. Blood and Steel and the other new songs are very good.
your are not EDDIE TRUNK, you missed many many things, you are not a fan as you say, mocking joey's voice tells so many things about your character and your purpose of making this video
I just discovered them & can't hear enough of them. Eric Adams is amazing! Their Battle Hymm especially kicks as$. Thank you, cover artists, (especially Dan Vasc) for interesting me in them & Sabaton & Mettalica, WH & NW & Dragonforce & so forth, but especially Manowar.
I grew up on Manowar, tabbed half their stuff on the internet as I learnt to play with Ross, David and then Karl but it was the internet that broke them for me. The Stay true to Yourself message (He who refuses to take part in modern mediocrity...) was false, and it became apparent that Manowar was a corporation leading the band, not the other way around. True testament to this is, Ross came to Australia, and only now Joey is considering it cause Ross's tour was a success. The closest I got was Ross at the local, but as always an emergency popped up that stopped me from my chance... I like the song El Gringo; are they really lawless misfits or just businessmen in Chaps? Maybe its Ye ole adage... They lie so much, they believe themselves...
All the fantasy for all true Manowar fans back in the days was ruined when Ross the boss left. That's it. Nobody -- I mean nobody -- ever -- liked Joey Da Witch. And it smelled very bad.. Joey wanted to be the boss and it stings from kilometers on all interviews and videos. His ego is above the stratosphere. Same metal-heads of the time would never follow such a ridicule anymore.
Demaio is a brilliant bassist and songwriter but the last 10 years or so he seems swallowed up by his own hubris. The whole "final tour" fiasco comes to mind, backtracking and plain lying. People may bash this video, but you can't deny I make some good points! lol
Demaio lives off Manowar, that is common knowledge. They could have more money if they didn't invest in their own gear for sure, and they'd have more fans if they didn't always insist on using their gear. As for their popularity in the US, that is less interesting to me than what happened after 2002's Warriors of The World, which was a huge comeback for them and did especially well in Europe. Rather than capitalise on its success, they released a concept album 5 years later on their own label that divided their fans. They also had a much publicised legal feud with Rhapsody, which didn't help their reputation at all. I also suspect that many fans didn't appreciate the inflated prices they were asked to pay for Magic Circle products either. Having said all that, Manowar are obviously doing something right to still be around after 40 years. There is no doubt that they have made some strange business decisions, but at the same time, some of those decisions are also responsible for their longevity.
Most of your points are relevant, but every net worth site you go to it shows that Joey`s net worth is around 10 million. So they have made a fair amount....obviously nowhere near what they should have due to the points you highlighted, but 10 Million is still a fair wag.
Come and see a concert in Europe to see true fans.... Its just your oppinion.... And a lot of I heard this I heard that.... Have you seen the concert in Mexico?
Big Tiny I also heard suicide he was a great guy who did everything to heart. In an interview Scott said he and Joey disagreed on many aspects musically so Scott left the band in mid tour and Joey asked rhino back in to finish the tour and after that Donnie was back to do the thunder in the sky and another project called hammer of the gods but got scrapped. Something ain’t right with Joey. Don’t you all agree?
Cesar Plaza yes I definitely agree. I don't know why he doesn't try to promote the band more and that whole Asgatd Saga thing had so much hype at first. Joey made it seem like it was gonna be the biggest thing they ever did then they come out with Lord of Steel and it was never mentioned again. Definitely strange. Love Manowar but I think Joey has made bad decisions. But it's his band. I've seen footage from the show in Israel and the vibe just isn't there anymore. But I'm glad they are still doing their thing anyway.
Big Tiny he doesn’t want to promote the band anymore because he’s afraid they might get bigger than manowar. As for the Asgard saga and hammer of the gods i believe something didn’t go through because of Joey. The Asgard saga is written by some author/writer and Joey wanted full control of it. Don’t quote on me about this but I did read about this years ago even before the lord of steel. As for the lord of steel I think they did a pretty good job on it except for the bass sound that sounds like a band I don’t remember their name they from the 90s. Other than that the album has that raw sound and Karl’s riffs and solos has a lot of flavor. I believe manowar has come to their demise because lack of inspiration and lack of humbleness on Joey’s behalf. I strongly believe Joey should of bring back Ross and David back for their final tour however Joey wants all the glory to himself. Too bad.
I remember buying Hail to England after that I wasn't interested they didn't want.Mercyful.fate with them I don't fucking blame them Fate was a monster
It's not about the U.S or whatever... The band had recorded like 4 bullshit albums which had one (battle hymn) super epic song and then just one a piece regular song until they finaly nailed it. And still they never had a super killer no bullshit unskippable album either. Not to mention the records had tons of bullshit effects, the drums sounded more like bombs and hellicopters than acutal drums, etc etc etc etc etc....PLEASE ! Not to mention the bullshit attitud even a kid reads through
Not sure of some of what you're saying. The first four albums had few flaws. Black Arrows being the biggest one. There are other songs in those albums as epic as Battle Hymn, especially Bridge of Death, Guyana, Mountains, Secret of Steel, etc. The only bomb effect I really remember is in Shell Shock, and it works for that song. The biggest problem in the beginning seems to be bad business sense and the image. The biggest problem now is that Joey can't seem to right a good song anymore.
And not successful? Do you see those places that they have no problem packing, at that price? Those tickets are incredibly expensive, look at all the thousands of people that will never even into your driveway. Pretty sure that they are incredibly successful.
No. They are not successful really in the US, and marginally successful nowadays as a niche band in Europe and elsewhere. The whole point is with the quality of music they make, they could've been a lot more successful if they hadn't had their heads up their own asses. But maybe that's just one person who is in the band really...
joey has a net worth of 10 million......and in the last 10 years manowar has sold more than 11 million records and in the last 30 years over 20 million.....thats a lot by any standards.Manowar has become big in the last 20 years or so.They played Romania 3 years in a row and we were like 10k people each year sold out....trust me they have a lot of money its just that they dont want to be visible.....
@@musicbynaush ive seen the 2022 production.....i dont like the stage decor....i like it simple with amps and lights:))) but thats just me....maybe seeing it live is different....but too much color isnt for metal.....like i said i dont really like the large screens and rock things.....
@@musicbynaush and the morons who were making fun of them dont realize that joeys house in new york is worth a couple of millions:))) its new york if you have an apartment youre rich:))) most people pay rent
@Naushad Rahman - there's a difference between NY state and NY city. The state is mostly rural farmland and small towns. The city is where the high population, high prices and high rents are. The guys in Manowar are not from the city.
@@RickNBacker he is from Brooklyn:)) its f ukin expensive there :)) really expensive.....and the whole NY state is expensive nowadays.....overpriced houses
Manowar when they achieved massive success in Europe with the edition of Kings of Metal became a joke, concerts with few songs and many stupid speeches, without Ross The Boss they stopped making good records, a band that could have been as big as Iron Maiden !!
They did continue to make good records? Arguably their most successful song, Warriors of the World, is why most people know about Manowar these days Karl Logan might have turned out to be a nonce, but he was a great guitarist
Considering how weird and cringy DeMaio is, especially when it comes to women, I wouldn't be surprised if he copied some of the stuff Logan downloaded for himself.
i fuckin BLED this band for the first four albums... and I'll tell you why they arent well respected within the metal community anymore firstly - going way back to 87.... the "Fighting The World" record was a grasp at capitalizing on the hair metal nonsense. I don't blame them - it was a weird time for metal. Even Ozzy was frosting his hair and writing ballads with Lita Ford, the boys from Priest had fuckin perms...... when atco (Atlantic Records subsidiary) signed them and they did "Fighting The World", they scaled things down for more mass appeal. There were still some decent songs on the album - I like "Black Wind Fire and Steel" and "Violence and Bloodshed", and I dont blame them for wanting to make some profit, but fuckin "Blow Your Speakers"?? it's shit - compare it to fucking "Each Dawn I Die".... When "Hail To England" was out - you could compare them to the heaviest of metal bands - Slayer, Venom, Maiden, etc. Not that the music sounded the same, but in terms of image and material. They became fuckin cartoon characters... I remember being 17 and seeing the cover to "Fighting The World" and fuckin WINCING in pain. Awful. How do you go from "Bridge Of Death" to that fuckin narrated "Grandfather, tell me a story" shit? And once they tried to soften it for mass appeal, there was no going back, and they became a bit of a novelty. I remember Gene Simmons talking about what happened to Kiss, and why they finally took the makeup off - because Gene said he was looking out into the audience, and it was mostly 8-9 year old kids. Joey failed to say much about the passing of Scott Columbus and the fact that Karl Logan is a pedophile. He's so interested in trying to protect the "image of the band" that he spins everything like a government official. They stopped touring the states - i get it - when it comes to metal, there is a lot more money to be made in Europe - where you can still play for thousands of people, as opposed to playing to a few hundred at a club in NY, but you should keep the home fires burning. I still love them, still listen to them often, they were the soundtrack of my youth...... but they lost the hardcore metal heads when they started to do songs like "Courage", which is a nice song i suppose, but it sounds like it should be the soundtrack to a fuckin Walt Disney movie. The real metalheads could no longer relate, and , at least in the states, they were STILL a bit too heavy for the mainstream hair metal Bon Jovi/Poison crowd. Neither here nor there. First four albums are fuckin metal gold
As much as I agree with your post, I strongly believe Joey does nothing without reason, reasons we will not know or we don't really have to know... as long as the music can speak for itself. Joey is a businessman and you need one to sustain a band. Say what you want, they wouldn't be able to sell these big venues if it wasn't for Joey and his ideas. Remember, a band cannot just bank on old fan base, they have to create new ones to survive. Songs like "die for metal" do nothing for me while it's a HUGE hit for younger fans
He is not a shredder like Karl or Dave, and I'm glad he isn't. Shredders are absolutely everywhere but no one embraced punk, country, blues, rockabilly, hard rock, heavy metal and then formed a style of his own like Ross has. His solos on black wind, wheels of fire, h&k tell us how metal he is even without Karl/Dave's arpeggios/sweeps/string skip/ pedal tones etc etc
They are here to make everything metal! Blacker than the blackest black...times infinity! And in a distorted way it's kinda what they did! Hahaha. Still love em, lets be honest most entertainers/celebrities are disconnected dipshits, so lets just enjoy the music and forget the faces.
wouldn't be surprised if there is some truth to that statement. I think the "true metal" thing of course was a smokescreen at times (as discussed in the video) for other failures the band had. Like when Demaio infamously said in the late nineties, "we've been on 17 record labels!" as if this is a point of confidence with regards to staying true to their music. Of course, behind the scenes, being kicked off 17 record labels could be because you're a lousy businessperson when it comes to music, and labels tire of you quickly lol. Not saying of course that most record labels aren't piles of shit (the music industry being infamous for predatory assholes preying upon musicians money wise) but still I think a point can be made
I had to stop listening at the 17 labels parts. Wow we have been on 17 labels, OK I get that. But then you made the assumption that they were dropped. How do you know that? Do you also have breakfast with them? Give me a break.
LMAO I find your assessment lame. The fact that they stand alone, walk their own path, and don't bend to big wigs at record labels or jump ship when people try to sway them is a huge part of what makes them so awesome and beloved.
@@themadmattster9647 I made no mention of their modern works, I was directly addressing your attack on the entire ethos that ManOwaR have had from the start. You took 5 months to gather a thought, and it wasn't even approaching coherence.
i bought into glory tape fer 2 bux in 86, n thought they wer great, till i saw em do an interview, n i thought "they're serious ??" n i fergot about em..but, if they coulda been more funny i think they'd been bigger, sill, if u tell dnd people about em, they will keep gettin fans, lol, thyr perfect fer dnd games! [when will people learn, manowar won't make you cool!!]
In my opinion what hurt man of war greatly was having the faceless mascot. Compare to Eddie from iron maiden. That ghostly ghul hypnotized me into buying Number of the beast when I was 11 years old. The Conan the barbarian character with no face though leaves you confused. Not good. I think if their mascot had a face that captivated people's imagination they would have done much better.
I like the mascot. It intentionally has no face because - as Eric Adams said - it can be the face of anyone who would like to feel the sense of achievement as the mascot - i.e. yours.
@@user-wx4ge1pe5i I heard Erik Adams when he said that, I still don't agree. I think he got it wrong. should of had a face. I mean, when you look at the Man O'War mascot are you doing what Eric says? imagining your own face on the mascot? Nope. nobody's doing that
What do ukeep on saying Man? Even though they arent that popular these days..theyre still more Metal..than i bet..any new metal bands youre listening to right now..besides they have made their mark and have lots of good killer hits..none could match the power that the Gods gave to Manowar..true kings of metal..unlike all crap new trying to be metal crap like Slipknot and others..id stick to the Kings of metal..the real brothers of Metal!
I love Manowar and will for the rest of my life, I have the sign of the hammer tattooed on my right shoulder and they have made an indelible mark on my life. That being said, I feel that they, like anyone else, isn't above criticism. I feel like it's a case of squandered potential, especially with their recent career moves, and missteps.
manowar arent a marketable band and never will be they play music that is not for the masses unfortunately now that they are older and looking to retire try to make as much money they can. this video says nothing at all worth listening or seeing just another manowar hater
@@themadmattster9647 hi first when did you have the tattoo and second if you are a Manowar fan why all this irony and DeMaio ridicule. finally, what are you trying to prove in your video, how did Manowar fail? I don't understand, did you want them to be commercially successful like Metallica arent you satisfied by their album all these forty years, I just don't get what are you trying to establish.
@@vielnast3628 So you can't like a band and criticize them at the same time? You absolutely have to worship them even if some of their decisions they did are really questionable. Being commercially successful isn't necessarily a bad thing, these are musicians who deserve to earn decent money. DeMaio deserves all the ridicule because he's way too cringy and obviously an asshole to fellow musicians. Even if this whole "true metal" talk is their schtick and essential part of their image not to be taken seriously, that Joey guy has become a self-parody.
@@davorbrijacak critisizing is way different from making fun of. De maio is not a full and although he may seems so to you it is because you hate manowar and deep inside yourself. Its very different to love a band and listen to their music to worshipping them. Maybe you never really listened to them just worshipped them yourself and when they did something different than you liked or expected you just unleashed so much hatted. Well Manowar cannot be harmed by the likes of you and their epic metal music will live forever!
@@vielnast3628 I like bunch of their stuff, especially Ross the Boss stuff, and I always made fun of their over the top image, but that Lord of Steel album, rerecordings of two classic albums, Final Tour that never ends, DeMaio being a total asshole and weirdo, and finally Karl Logan a paedophile, that deserves a critic.
That said, even then Mercyful Fate, Judas Priest, and Iron Maiden all topped them in any albums that they released in the same years. They were solid but just never good enough to compete with those bands. Halls of Valhalla is what a Manowar song SHOULD sound like.
Yes, someone report this band to authorities and let them know that their fans are a legion of snowflakes that get butthurt over small things that even my sweet grandma would giggle at
Karl Logan is not a harm to society and is not a sex offender. You can't hold Karl responsible and punish him for the actions of others. Although no one is suppose to download or view illegal porn, but it was made available online by others that may of tempted him to see it or download it if in fact he did. Arrest the ones who held the video camera and take the illegal porn away but Karl may not deserve jail time depending on the content and other factors. He may be guilty of failing to report that illegal video or image to the police depending on the content if it was his duty to do so to allow the authorities to investigate, if it wasn't his duty to report it then he did nothing to anyone. I like Manowar ALOT, and I want him back in the band. HAIL HEAVY F'ING METAL.
Love epic metal , Manowar are theatrical.They should have worked on a musical in their prime.I believe that Zionist - established record companies in the US have never forgiven the vast success of two ( Eric and Joey ) Italian Catholic boys.Joey was ( maybe he is still into ) a member of the Knights of Malta - a division of Templar Knights.
Over 30 years of being the best heavy metal band in the world and people still don't back off....Didn't you get the message in the 80s? They're not here for you, they're here for us. Understand this and go back to Metallica.
*I'm gonna listen to Logan's guitars because he played epic guitars. Period.*
I wouldn't like him personally, but his contribution to the Albums is fucking great, and not listening to them because of what he had somewhere on his computer is absurd.
Kids were/are being victimized for the consumption of pieces of shit like Karl Logan. Fuck his guitar playing. "What he had somewhere on his computer" complete bullshit.
I think his tone and solos kinda sucked though, not necessarily in studio records but on live videos.
@Meister Dejv not just terrible tone, always felt his intonation is off. Dislike his bending and vibrato. But he was quite melodic, and has written some of the finest metal solos.
@@davorbrijacak Joey always lowers the guitar in concerts, for fome reason he thinks the loud distorted bass matter more than the guitar, while both should be at the same level. Maybe an ego stuff .
@@PandaInforma It's an ego for sure knowing his personality. Even his bass is often piccolo bass played mostly like guitar, heavily distorted, while guitar is too bassy and scooped so it doesn't have as much presence in the mix.
Manowar will always be a great band. They never fell (all bands have problems). In Europe they are practically likened to that of Beatlemania. Every festival they play they are the mandatory headliners. They have conventions all over the world. Every record was true to form HEAVY METAL. Millions of fans have Manowar tats. In Brazil they headline over Slayer. In the 90's they were one of the only bands that had the balls to still call themselves HEAVY METAL (and they were/are ). Every show they play they bring a custom P.A. They've literally lost money just to play in areas as a special treat to their beloved fans. Better known as Manowarriors. If that's failure or a down fall? So be it. When the record companies offered more money to change their style they said f$%k you and became even more successful. HAIL AND KILL !!!
Agreed brother. Manowar are HUGE across Europe and South America. They had their own festival at one point. And til this day they sell out arenas with no support bands and high ticket prices. Their fans are extremely loyal.
@@bigtinymanowarrior7330 Exactly with all due respect this guy has no clue what he's talking about ..
I have a Manowar tat. Maybe you didn't watch the whole video
I've recently seen them some years ago in Berlin in a small club and they sucked. Taking any pitcures was strictly forbidden and Joey spoke more in between songs than he played. Content-free speaches like "f*** politics, f*** school, bla bla bla ..." for over several minutes ever two songs or so. They rather should have played their material. It was maybe one hour of music for way too much money. And I've seen hundreds of other concerts of small and huge bands alike to have a comparison.
@@metallicblood True, I regards to the fact there's a lot of great Rock N Roll and Heavy Metal bands especially out of the 80s (my personal favorite time period). Manowar seems to not be your thing. IMHO opinion Manowar has put out some legendary records. Especially with Ross The Boss on guitar. Along with his songwriting.
Manowar will always be a legendary band. Its all about the music in the end, and they make great music. They also have some of the best live shows ever. They have had enough success to retire comfortable. There attitude is what got them where they are today. They still have many loyal fans all over the world. Something being popular in America isn`t always a good thing, look at that shit they call "Rap music" for instance. peace out
*Couldn't agree with you more, brother.*
Hell Yeahh WTF. MANOWAR WILL NEVER FALL
I've been a huge Manowar fan ever since. Eric Adams is an amazing singer. Btw that was a pretty good Joey impersonation.
What really annoyed me was them doing a "The Final Battle" tour starting in 2016 and advertising it as their final tour and the band ending after it's over. The actual wording in the original 2016 press release was:
"The Gods And Kings Tour was a groundbreaking moment in our career. The stage, sound, video and you, our fans, were magnificent! Coming off such an amazing tour it was clear that the next time we must go even bigger and beyond anything we have ever done; something that will fulfill every Manowarrior’s dreams. Then that will be the ultimate moment to say Thank You and farewell! The Final Battle will begin in Germany and take us all over the world to say goodbye to all of you.."
Eric Adams also said in an interview "I'm gonna miss the big stage - of course I am - but all good things have to come to an end at some point."
Then they milked this "farewell" tour for all it was worth. It went on for 3-4 years, only for them to finally end it and then announce a 40th Anniversary Tour! When Joey was asked in an interview about the fans thinking the band was breaking up, he responded: "We never announced the end of MANOWAR; we didn't even plan to never tour again."
Many old legendary bands are doing it nowadays. It has to be a good marketing strategy, many people go out of their way to see the band before they "break up", thinking this is their final chance to do so. I even remember Judas Priest saying that in 2011 but still they play live and record new record, even if Tipton can't so Andy Sneap tours instead. Deep Purple was supposed to have a final tour in 2017 yet they still play, despite saying how they would only do studio records.
I know you can change your mind but this seems like a bullshit marketing strategy.
Anybody remembers Ozzys "No More Tours" tour in 1992? :D
@@metallicblood for real? that's crazy, what the hell was he thinking way back then
@@rvm8315 He even made fun of it himself with "No More Tours II" in 2018
Ross was asked to leave by Joey. He wanted full control. Plus Ross even stated in interviews that he wouldn't have lasted. He wasn't gonna be dictated to by anyone. Plus he was really disgusted when they released Pleasure Slave.
Incidentally the first 6 records are considered by many their greatest achievements .. If those 6 records didn't exist .. They would never be the icons they are now .. Ross deserves way more credit than he ever got .. Btw his solo band that plays Manowar still to this day is incredible ... ( and ) it's not really a cover band because Ross wrote all those songs ..
@@danadane2501 yes they are. And all really nice guys. Their newest album is fantastic. And Ross is currently working on new stuff for Death Dealer or the Dictators. And once this whole lockdown is over He'll be back on tour. Those first 6 are the foundation of Manowar. But I'm also a HUGE fan of the next era. The Triumph of Steel with David and Rhino is probably my favorite. Both David and Rhino are really cool guys and still very active. Be on the lookout for lots of new stuff from them both.
@@bigtinymanowarrior7330 I can't wait to hear it Ross has been kicking ass for quite some time now on his own ..
Ross is a super nice guy. I try not to argue with him about politics though lol
@@themadmattster9647 Yep I've learned a long time ago to avoid discussing politics and religion among friends .. That's a full proof way to mess up a great relationship ... Personal , professional or otherwise .. Btw from what I've seen Ross comes across as being one of the most humble down to earth Heavy Metal LEGENDS I've ever seen ...
Ross said he was ASKED to leave, so basically fired by Joey before the Kings Of Metal tour started. And Joey concoted the silly story that Ross went to pursue blues.
The same stuff happened in 1990 with Scott, and Joey peddling story about Scott's kid being sick. Unfortunately, Scott backed up Demaio's untrue version in 1999 Hell On Earth video, saying that he got back to Manowar after his kid recuperated. Only in his 2010 interview he set the record straight that his son had never been sick in the first place. So it was all a Joey's scheme to keep fans in the dark and not rebelling
@Mike I always thought that was the reason why Ross was a great guitar player but yeah the bluey licks were always gonna very limited, Joey even in the early days always had a knack for playing really fast even in the early days and Ross wasn't capable of that, I think Joey wanted somebody who could shred in the same pace that he could, It seems like every metal band in the late eighties had to have a shredder guitar player
@Mike I think Dave played that well on the record cos Joey runs the show. His vision sustained Man0waR ! Dave has produced nothing of much value since Man0waR. If Eric went solo, he probably wouldn't have survived without Joey's songwriting prowess. No Man0waR member did that well outside the band and that tells us what a tight ship Joey runs and how instrumental he is for the sound of Man0waR.
@@musicbynaush Ross The Boss band's releases are very good, definitely better than anything Manowar recorded since 2007
@Radio Żelaza I won't disagree but I don't find myself listening to them. I've seen him live play Man0waR songs and that was one of the best nights of my life.
@Mike a lot of people say that the best album but there's too much that they had to do to get that album literally had to get rid of half of the band to get that fast driven style and they never really touched on any songs from that except for Metal Warriors, Rhino was a phenomenal drummer he was perfect for that band and then when they got Scott back and they got Karl Logan it's like they couldn't be fast but they could still be technical, but obviously Scott couldn't play that fast, I think that's possibly why the modern Manowar albums sound kind of odd
One funny think I have noticed is that when you go to RUclips and look for hail to England full album. Many times, “each dawn I die” will be missing
@normskis69 it’s my favorite too. It’s not always missing but it is sometimes and I don’t know why
OK, this was my personal experience w/ Manowar, as a fan... I had heard for decades that they were 'the loudest band on Earth'... I bought all their CD's and DVD's and was crushed every time a new record emerged that they did not tour the USA.
Over the years, I had seen Dragonforce, Mayhem, Sabaton, Enslaved, Amon Amarth, Death Angel, Behemoth, Arch Enemy, Cannibal Corpse, Nightwish, Slayer, Exodus, Motorhead, Machine Head, Napalm Death, Blind Guardian, Epica ... old and new metal bands, crank out records regularly and tour the States relentlessly... playing clubs for little money, and then the ball gets rolling and they move up to bigger venues and successful tours as they build up their fanbase.
Finally, Manowar announced a US tour in 2014 for a handful of shows... I paid $100 for my ticket and was jazzed they would play the entire 'Kings of metal' album. I expected them to blow me away... this is what I got:
1) No opening band, and Manowar barely played 1 and half hrs.
2) Security would not allow any photographs.
3) The band's volume from the stage was so low that I didn't even need earplugs.
4) Joey DeMaio ranted on stage for a few minutes bragging about Manowar to an underwhelmed crowd.
5) None of the members would meet the fans after the show - a lot of post-concert grumbling...
6) Adding insult to injury, later US shows were cancelled.
At the end of the day, it was a very deflating experience w/ a band I had been a fan of since the 90's.
In contrast... I saw Machine Head in 2015 pack the same venue, play 20 songs over 2 hours and kept the crowd engaged and moshing and they charged less for than half of what Manowar did. No matter who is in the band, Robb Flynn has proved himself to be a dedicated metalhead who caters to the fans. It seems more like Manowar cater to themselves and the fans enthusiasm is expected, not earned...
Amon Amarth has been crushing the States for decades and now, they are one of the biggest metal bands because of their sheer workload and dedication to making metal and fans happy.
You nailed it, same experience here
Это очень странно. Я был на их концерте в Москве в 2019 году. Звук отличный. Такая мощность что у меня шевелилась одежда. Было много песен, как новых так и старых.
When I saw them in 2005, Joey DeMaio went on a long rant about how the club owner was a piece of shit. From a business perspective I imagine someone like Joey must be a pain in the ass to work with. The other ironic thing is that for a band that sings about metal brotherhood, they seem to be completely disconnected from their peers in the metal community.
YES! That was my whole point with the video!
I saw an interview in Sweden with Lemmy, dio and DemAio. When asking about heavy metal, dio and lemmy would refer the question to DemAio: I sensed they had no respect for him
I didn´t take seriously your critics because Manowar´s classic songs are already there, they are part of Power Metal Olympus: Battle hymn, Blood of my enemies, Kill with power, etc...true hymns of melodic Metal and no one could ever deny Manowar´s influence on other great European Metal bands that came after. Their throne was won by them long ago.
Have you listened to the two podcasts where Joey interviews Eric?
Yes
May your Sword stay wet,
Like a young girl in her prime!
If she is too young
OOOOOOKAAAAAAY!
Wouldn't surprise me if DeMaio has similar tastes to Logan but wasn't caught. I mean, that guy is weird, whenever he's kissing chicks on stage it's obvious they're some paid hookers but acts like they're fans/groupies.
One of the reasons why Ross was fired, was because he was disagreeing with Joey about this alienation from the scene. Joey did that in purpose, Ross did not like it, so he had to go. Manowar claimed he left in his own, but it's a lie. One of many.
I haven't listened to any newer releases but I have to say that Manowar has a couple of stellar albums that I absolutely love. Battle Hymns, Into Glory Ride, Hail to England, Sign of the Hammer and Triumph of Steel to be exact. Triumph of Steel mainly because it was the first I heard, but the others because they are truly unique. Legendary metal albums.
EDIT: I don't listen to new albums of any of my old favorite bands to be honest. Not just Manowar, so it's not because it's bad... I just don't feel the need.
Been a fan since the early 80's , saw them in the UK several times on their first tour and a lot of times since. Will be flying over to Germany from the US in a few weeks to catch 5 gigs. Now that Logans gone theres only two original members left, the other two are now from a Manowar tribute band! Will be interesting for sure to see what the band are like now. I used to love the way Joey ran around stage twirling about and slamming his guitar etc etc, now he just stands there motionless! i know they're all getting older. Have to alsosay, i saw Ross The Boss in PA last year at a gig with no more than 50 people where he played a full Manowar set and it was fantastic! what an amazing guy! hung out with the fans after the show and was such a down to earth person. I'm looking forward to the German shows but a=I'm more excited for when Ross releases some more dates for the US this year:) Hail & Kill :)
hes definitely a down to earth person (Ross). I get the idea that Eric Adams is pretty down to earth as well, but kind of just goes along with (enables) what Joey does in regards to the band.
Best EPIC Metal Band Ever. Eric the Best Voice in Metal
I totally agree with with you. I love them and will keep listening to them. I just saw them this February in Bremen, Germany, the gig was amaaazing! the best I have seen so far ( I have seen them four times already) but I am not a blind fan and can tell somethings are not right, all because Joey´s attitude.
Thanks looks like unlike a lot of commenters you actually watched the video!
I think their problem is/was that the whole schtick was a bit too buffoonish. Here in Europe in the 80s with our limited English it was great to sing along to Carry On, Black Wind Fire and Steel and Brothers of Metal. Simple, catchy, epic. But the band never evolved thematically. My first ever concert was in the Louder than Hell tour when they came to my home town in Spain. It was disappointing, the band was great, but the show was short. When they came to Spain later, nobody wanted to organize trips to their gigs in nearby places. The production of their first ever live record, Hell on Wheels, is truly atrocious and I was so disappointed when I bought it that I was put off for a long time.
Huge Manowar fan here and I cannot disagree with anything you say. Very insightfull and interesting hearing you talk about this.
So you have done a Danzig video too?
One of my other absolute favourite bands. Gotta check that out too. Hope those fucking death threats end though. People....
As long as Manowar released great albums every couple of years they could get away with being full of themselves (or that image). But once the albums started to come out more rarely and have more filler I kind of started to shy away a little. When I discovered them with the Hell of Steel it's probably the strongest album experience I've ever had and it saddens me a little that that same band released an album as bland as the Lord of Steel. That being said, Sword of the Highlands is a truly great song so Joey can still give us a golden nugget every now and then.
yeah I think the album had 3-4 good songs, but odd production choices. I have a different opinion though since I liked the Metal Hammer version more, the "retail" sounded very am radioish to me.
There's no any fall. Manowar is stronger than ever!
Where would one acquire this German metal hammer release?
Yeah this guy looks like a manowar fan.
The last incredible album was “Triumph of Steel”. I do like certain songs here and there. Warriors of the World had some great moments. Somewhere they lost the ability to have good riffs. Also the subject matter and lyrics are such shit now. The early stuff was so cool...Guyana, Battle Hymns, Shell Shock, Violence and Bloodshed. Now the songs all have to mention gates of Hell, rise from hell..blood on my Steel, you will die, go to Valhalla...all means nothing, no point. Those new final battle songs are a fucking joke. I could write something better in 5 minutes....
Yes. I very much liked their mythology/heathenish side of lyrics, and the Illiad on ToS was the last great hurrah in this way. After that it felt like they brought more Odin and more Asgard and more Valhalla but as if quantity was the objective. I miss songs like Thor as especially Mountains. Manowar were my "gateway drug" to nordic mythology and I became Asatru, discovered all the heathen metal starting with Bathory, there is no contest on the lyrics depth for me. I still listen to the ToS and older albums though.
Come to think of it, Halls of Valhalla by Judas Priest is way better than any of Manowars Odin stuff of the past 20 years.
OK, so I watched the vid. I was right: as I said in my 1st, longer comment, this guy didn't say a word about the fact that Americans don't like traditional metal or "true metal," in de Maio's words.
Also, here's a logical fallacy: he says that Manowar supposedly had an arrogant attitude towards US bands, which alienated them from the US fanbase. But, if they were arrogant & difficult to work with, would they *not* also be difficult to work with in Europe? The argument makes no sense at all. And even if it was the case that they were hard to work with, with US bands, why would this affect how fans viewed them? The fans would not know anything about the behind-the-scenes happenings between bands, anyway.
Like I said, my 1st comment explains the real reason why Manowar have a far smaller fan base in the US that the rest of the world: Americans don't like classic metal, but thrash and blues. manowar's sound is "too european" for the Americans.
you make some great points but just imagine seeing Manowar tour with someone like Symphony X in the states for a 40 dollar ticket (at most). Never would happen, and that's my point, they could have allowed themselves to be more humble as far as their productions go (not that their productions are THAT extravagant) and alas, had a better REPUTATION in the us, not just being able to sell more tickets or albums, etc. You talk to Ross himself and he will acknowledge some of these mistakes as well. He plays CLUBS and will talk with the fans without any pretension unlike his former band.
The lawsuit with Rhapsody of Fire, along with some other statements by other bands give the impression that European bands also find it hard to work with Manowar (not to mention the recent Hellfest debacle)
TheNewAeon2012 dude totally agree
If you guys didn't know, Hellfest did not provide nearly enough facilities to accommodate Manowar and their crew, despite agreeing to a pre-determined arrangement.
I've also heard their staff were extremely rude to Manowar's road crew, which just isn't cool
@@StaticYonder that sucks, didn't know that
"States" is a fashion country so...who cares?...and Manowar makes music non commercial...and that's the answer
not a bad album mind you, but Fighting the World was non commercial?
Unlike Europeans, Japanese, South Americans, etc., Americans don't "get" or like trad, classically-influenced metal; they like thrash & blues-based rock. That's why, even though just as good as Judas Priest, maybe even better according to some, Iron Maiden is just not as popular in the US as Priest. And where Maiden *is* mentioned, it's almost ALWAYS thru a comment of this sort "Yeah, how about that Number of the Beast?!!" And my (hypothetical) reply always is: "You mean, this is the *only* album you know out of a discography of 16 albums, many of which are far better & more "true metal" than NOTB?" This is a very great mystery, since on the entire *planet* (except for US & its blind follower AUS) the opposite applies: Maiden is almost universally considered the 'best of all time.' But JP are more liked in the US bc they have a more bluesy/thrashy sound, whereas Maiden have a classical sound, coming from the Deep Purple school of rock/metal. Speaking of Purple, again, in *every* country except the US (and its brainless, nondescript copycat, Australia where i sadly reside) it's practically an unwritten law that Ritchie Blackmore is the best guitarist of all time, the man most responsible for inspiring what we now know as "metal solos" & the NWOBH sound in general, as well as power metal, ultimately. The US fans seem to not comprehend this objective truth, and instead, focus, again, on blues-based guitar heroes, such as Jimmy Page, Jeff Beck, etc., while completely throwing Ritchie under the bus (Note: Page is a God & Zeppelin is best band ever, so I'm not anti-Zep, but they are explicitly not metal in the least, but hard rock). Even if RB's sound is more "metal" & by far the most technically proficient rock/metal guitarist of the 70ies, if not ever.
And since, ofc, Manowar is the most "European" sounding metal band that America has ever produced (if you didn't know, upon first hearing them, you'd naturally assume they're a German or a NWOBH band or something) their sound is naturally not going to be as popular with the American metal audiences, who nauseatingly have a strong liking for "false metal" (i.e. anything BUT the trad NWOBH sound or the classically-themed Deep Purple sound, which later spawned power metal, another inexplicably "hated" genre in the US). This IS the explanation (I know cause I'm European who now lives in AU & have compared the polar opposite metal scenes in both countries). I haven't even watched the vid yet lol, but I imagine he doesn't even mention any of this stuff.
Iron Maiden play relatively large places like Tinley Park Holywood Casino (2019) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollywood_Casino_Amphitheatre_(Tinley_Park,_Illinois), and last time had not too many openers, while Judas Priest usually tours with package tours like last time with Deep Purple. I agree that the type of metal you describe is not as popular in the US, but I think Manowar could've been a larger band for that exact style considering their longevity and choices they made back in the day.
Yeah, Manowar has ironically been held back by Joey's narcissism.
And then the guitarist getting caught with CP 😬 ⚰️
I think you have missed the point of this band dude
Almost everyone here has
What's the point then guys? Besides cringe metal. You want real, true metal, go listen to Judas Priest, and Iron Maiden...
@@andyisalwaysanxious8599 The point is being a Warrior and Metalhead.
Judas Priest are my second favourite band after Manowar. Alot of Rob Halford's outfits were cringe, but the music spoke for itself. Manowar is the same, and the whole Loincloth thing was their way of being individual back in the 80s. 30 years of their 40 year career have been spent in biker leather and Armour
A bit like a band you mentioned a minute ago, good old Priest, who started out wearing hippie clothes
@@StaticYonder exactly. ;) They think too much of themselves to be such bad musicians. Lol
Imo....which people don't like nowadays. 🤦♂️🤷♂️
The retail version of The Lord Of Steel sounded like that because they had to somehow reduce that awful Joey's bass sound everybody was complaining about without remixing the whole album. So they just turned treble down on the stereo masters, that's what I guess. A complete failure of a production. Joey had either gone deaf or dumb to choose such a bass tone for that album...
Damn that’s interesting
They still make good music; their own anti harmonic way. Not every single piece is a diamond for sure. This goes for any band and artist ever walked this earth. They are all simple humans. It is the fans and anti-fans that , hillariously, exegarate anything out of too much love/hate.
The attitude of the musicans part is mostly for the show; entertainment. (Fix match) You know at many videos and shows Joey makes fun of their concept and even himself. Any entertainer who roleplays to be an artist does that. I laugh even harder when some bozos show up and tell how mature a musician is or judge the quality of the music by how many notes, tabs and the number of instruments are used and how hard it is to play. Nothing is hard to play with proper practice. The music industry is business.
Seriously I am an ancient rock and metal fan and musician myself (listening to and practicing many other type of music aswell), but what I think is the fan/anti-fan community (at anything not only music) is the true ass. The bands are only the entertainers and what they do is only roleplaying. It is show business. They are all ordinary guys.
Had never heard about the fantasy novel stuff. I’d still kill to hear that.
ARE YOU KIDDING??? THE METAL HAMMER VERSION SOUNDS DIFFERENT THAN THE OTHER ONE?!?
The one I have sounds terrible production wise. I would like to hear the other one and also wonder WHY?? WHY was such a crap done?
I don’t know, they both have their flaws but I remember the “retail” one sounding “cleaner” but muffled, and the Metal Hammer one having more treble
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yes, the metal hammer version sounds like a pre master or 98% finished mix, but still way better than the one from the store which is just muff... don´t know if this is an international thing, but it reminded me on Dolby B & C on cassettes.
Just cutting away all highs and parts of the mids...
Don´t know who made that final decision for the album...
There are good songs on it, but the production really is an accident...
Will now try to get the Hammer Edition, although these versions are on yt as well.
As a Manowar fan I have nothing to criticize about this speech. Sadly, very Sadly: what a waste of potential.
When Ross was forced out of the band after Kings of Metal, I lost all interest in the band. If it wasn't for Ross and his connections, they never would have been signed in the first place. Ross was the co-founder of the band and their best material is when he was in the band. Joey's ego is the sole reason why Manowar fell.
I like a lot of the Logan era stuff but I think bad decisions by Joey are paramount in why they’re not even at the career level of say, Helloween for example
Dude. I’m one of the most hardcore ManowaR fans around. And couldn’t agree more. I’m so sad to what happened to this band. When I was 15-20 I thought demaio was cool. But now that I’m 37 I’m seeing all the wrong choices they made, the bad marketing, the crappy production in lord of steel...i mean ok...fuck the world but...with some tact. Demaio ruined the band. I met all the other members and they are so cool and also sad about ManowaR and their fate.
True that Lord of Steel was below standard. But Righteous Glory is great. I think they recovered though. Blood and Steel and the other new songs are very good.
your are not EDDIE TRUNK, you missed many many things, you are not a fan as you say, mocking joey's voice tells so many things about your character and your purpose of making this video
I just discovered them & can't hear enough of them. Eric Adams is amazing! Their Battle Hymm especially kicks as$.
Thank you, cover artists, (especially Dan Vasc) for interesting me in them & Sabaton & Mettalica, WH & NW & Dragonforce & so forth, but especially Manowar.
Yeah I love them especially their first four albums
I grew up on Manowar, tabbed half their stuff on the internet as I learnt to play with Ross, David and then Karl but it was the internet that broke them for me. The Stay true to Yourself message (He who refuses to take part in modern mediocrity...) was false, and it became apparent that Manowar was a corporation leading the band, not the other way around. True testament to this is, Ross came to Australia, and only now Joey is considering it cause Ross's tour was a success. The closest I got was Ross at the local, but as always an emergency popped up that stopped me from my chance... I like the song El Gringo; are they really lawless misfits or just businessmen in Chaps? Maybe its Ye ole adage... They lie so much, they believe themselves...
All the fantasy for all true Manowar fans back in the days was ruined when Ross the boss left. That's it. Nobody -- I mean nobody -- ever -- liked Joey Da Witch. And it smelled very bad.. Joey wanted to be the boss and it stings from kilometers on all interviews and videos. His ego is above the stratosphere. Same metal-heads of the time would never follow such a ridicule anymore.
Demaio is a brilliant bassist and songwriter but the last 10 years or so he seems swallowed up by his own hubris. The whole "final tour" fiasco comes to mind, backtracking and plain lying. People may bash this video, but you can't deny I make some good points! lol
I like Joey DeMaio
Manowar hasn't fallen. I jam to them all the time.
Demaio lives off Manowar, that is common knowledge. They could have more money if they didn't invest in their own gear for sure, and they'd have more fans if they didn't always insist on using their gear. As for their popularity in the US, that is less interesting to me than what happened after 2002's Warriors of The World, which was a huge comeback for them and did especially well in Europe. Rather than capitalise on its success, they released a concept album 5 years later on their own label that divided their fans. They also had a much publicised legal feud with Rhapsody, which didn't help their reputation at all. I also suspect that many fans didn't appreciate the inflated prices they were asked to pay for Magic Circle products either.
Having said all that, Manowar are obviously doing something right to still be around after 40 years. There is no doubt that they have made some strange business decisions, but at the same time, some of those decisions are also responsible for their longevity.
*And their music is fucking epic, that too brother.*
Hellmann guy have mayo money :)
I was there from the start. After fighting the world that was it. Although kings of metal was great
I only listen to the first 6 albums...Ross the Boss thank you very much.....
Manowar is the best band in the world.
Wasn't Ross Sacked?
Most of your points are relevant, but every net worth site you go to it shows that Joey`s net worth is around 10 million. So they have made a fair amount....obviously nowhere near what they should have due to the points you highlighted, but 10 Million is still a fair wag.
Come and see a concert in Europe to see true fans.... Its just your oppinion.... And a lot of I heard this I heard that.... Have you seen the concert in Mexico?
manowar after their 5th album = meh , manowar till and including their 4th = 💖💖💖
Not Manowar's fall....Manowar's call 🤘🍺
U pay what the prices are we paid over 590 dollars here in sweden last year.. would pay it again and again and again
Nobody knows what happened to Scott. I heard different things. Suicide being one
Big Tiny I also heard suicide he was a great guy who did everything to heart. In an interview Scott said he and Joey disagreed on many aspects musically so Scott left the band in mid tour and Joey asked rhino back in to finish the tour and after that Donnie was back to do the thunder in the sky and another project called hammer of the gods but got scrapped. Something ain’t right with Joey. Don’t you all agree?
Cesar Plaza yes I definitely agree. I don't know why he doesn't try to promote the band more and that whole Asgatd Saga thing had so much hype at first. Joey made it seem like it was gonna be the biggest thing they ever did then they come out with Lord of Steel and it was never mentioned again. Definitely strange. Love Manowar but I think Joey has made bad decisions. But it's his band. I've seen footage from the show in Israel and the vibe just isn't there anymore. But I'm glad they are still doing their thing anyway.
Big Tiny he doesn’t want to promote the band anymore because he’s afraid they might get bigger than manowar. As for the Asgard saga and hammer of the gods i believe something didn’t go through because of Joey. The Asgard saga is written by some author/writer and Joey wanted full control of it. Don’t quote on me about this but I did read about this years ago even before the lord of steel. As for the lord of steel I think they did a pretty good job on it except for the bass sound that sounds like a band I don’t remember their name they from the 90s. Other than that the album has that raw sound and Karl’s riffs and solos has a lot of flavor. I believe manowar has come to their demise because lack of inspiration and lack of humbleness on Joey’s behalf. I strongly believe Joey should of bring back Ross and David back for their final tour however Joey wants all the glory to himself. Too bad.
I wonder is Scott's death was a sacrifice, to keep their career going...
Now Is The Time i hope it wasn’t a blood sacrifice and I hope it wasn’t suicide. Scott was Manowar.
I remember buying Hail to England after that I wasn't interested they didn't want.Mercyful.fate with them I don't fucking blame them Fate was a monster
Fall ?
It's not about the U.S or whatever... The band had recorded like 4 bullshit albums which had one (battle hymn) super epic song and then just one a piece regular song until they finaly nailed it. And still they never had a super killer no bullshit unskippable album either. Not to mention the records had tons of bullshit effects, the drums sounded more like bombs and hellicopters than acutal drums, etc etc etc etc etc....PLEASE ! Not to mention the bullshit attitud even a kid reads through
Not sure of some of what you're saying. The first four albums had few flaws. Black Arrows being the biggest one. There are other songs in those albums as epic as Battle Hymn, especially Bridge of Death, Guyana, Mountains, Secret of Steel, etc. The only bomb effect I really remember is in Shell Shock, and it works for that song.
The biggest problem in the beginning seems to be bad business sense and the image. The biggest problem now is that Joey can't seem to right a good song anymore.
Lot of stuff ya got wrong bro.. ask the source
Are you Eric’s son? Maybe you can appear on my podcast. This is a very old video btw
And not successful? Do you see those places that they have no problem packing, at that price? Those tickets are incredibly expensive, look at all the thousands of people that will never even into your driveway. Pretty sure that they are incredibly successful.
No. They are not successful really in the US, and marginally successful nowadays as a niche band in Europe and elsewhere. The whole point is with the quality of music they make, they could've been a lot more successful if they hadn't had their heads up their own asses. But maybe that's just one person who is in the band really...
joey has a net worth of 10 million......and in the last 10 years manowar has sold more than 11 million records and in the last 30 years over 20 million.....thats a lot by any standards.Manowar has become big in the last 20 years or so.They played Romania 3 years in a row and we were like 10k people each year sold out....trust me they have a lot of money its just that they dont want to be visible.....
Have you seen the production in this 2023 tour? Joey gives back and these shows prove it.
@@musicbynaush ive seen the 2022 production.....i dont like the stage decor....i like it simple with amps and lights:))) but thats just me....maybe seeing it live is different....but too much color isnt for metal.....like i said i dont really like the large screens and rock things.....
@@musicbynaush and the morons who were making fun of them dont realize that joeys house in new york is worth a couple of millions:))) its new york if you have an apartment youre rich:))) most people pay rent
@Naushad Rahman - there's a difference between NY state and NY city. The state is mostly rural farmland and small towns. The city is where the high population, high prices and high rents are. The guys in Manowar are not from the city.
@@RickNBacker he is from Brooklyn:)) its f ukin expensive there :)) really expensive.....and the whole NY state is expensive nowadays.....overpriced houses
well if being stupid is like that ;(
Manowar when they achieved massive success in Europe with the edition of Kings of Metal became a joke, concerts with few songs and many stupid speeches, without Ross The Boss they stopped making good records, a band that could have been as big as Iron Maiden !!
that was pretty much the point of my video! Thanks for actually getting it! "COULD HAVE BEEN AS BIG AS IRON MAIDEN" yes, that's the point!
They did continue to make good records? Arguably their most successful song, Warriors of the World, is why most people know about Manowar these days
Karl Logan might have turned out to be a nonce, but he was a great guitarist
@@StaticYonder the most succesful Scorpions Song wind of change, succesful doesnt mean good
@@steamh4mmer264 eh, The most Successful scorpions song is easily Rock you like a Hurricane
They never came out and leveled with us about Logan . Didn’t they know something was up?
Considering how weird and cringy DeMaio is, especially when it comes to women, I wouldn't be surprised if he copied some of the stuff Logan downloaded for himself.
@@davorbrijacak I hope not. I know he’s a total dick where women are concerned though
I go to see MANOWAR at HELLFEST in France June 21 :)
we saw how well that turned out lol
Worriers of the world............
They don't even play heavy metal
i fuckin BLED this band for the first four albums... and I'll tell you why they arent well respected within the metal community anymore
firstly - going way back to 87.... the "Fighting The World" record was a grasp at capitalizing on the hair metal nonsense. I don't blame them - it was a weird time for metal. Even Ozzy was frosting his hair and writing ballads with Lita Ford, the boys from Priest had fuckin perms......
when atco (Atlantic Records subsidiary) signed them and they did "Fighting The World", they scaled things down for more mass appeal. There were still some decent songs on the album - I like "Black Wind Fire and Steel" and "Violence and Bloodshed", and I dont blame them for wanting to make some profit, but fuckin "Blow Your Speakers"?? it's shit - compare it to fucking "Each Dawn I Die"....
When "Hail To England" was out - you could compare them to the heaviest of metal bands - Slayer, Venom, Maiden, etc. Not that the music sounded the same, but in terms of image and material.
They became fuckin cartoon characters... I remember being 17 and seeing the cover to "Fighting The World" and fuckin WINCING in pain. Awful. How do you go from "Bridge Of Death" to that fuckin narrated "Grandfather, tell me a story" shit?
And once they tried to soften it for mass appeal, there was no going back, and they became a bit of a novelty.
I remember Gene Simmons talking about what happened to Kiss, and why they finally took the makeup off - because Gene said he was looking out into the audience, and it was mostly 8-9 year old kids.
Joey failed to say much about the passing of Scott Columbus and the fact that Karl Logan is a pedophile. He's so interested in trying to protect the "image of the band" that he spins everything like a government official.
They stopped touring the states - i get it - when it comes to metal, there is a lot more money to be made in Europe - where you can still play for thousands of people, as opposed to playing to a few hundred at a club in NY, but you should keep the home fires burning.
I still love them, still listen to them often, they were the soundtrack of my youth...... but they lost the hardcore metal heads when they started to do songs like "Courage", which is a nice song i suppose, but it sounds like it should be the soundtrack to a fuckin Walt Disney movie. The real metalheads could no longer relate, and , at least in the states, they were STILL a bit too heavy for the mainstream hair metal Bon Jovi/Poison crowd.
Neither here nor there.
First four albums are fuckin metal gold
As much as I agree with your post, I strongly believe Joey does nothing without reason, reasons we will not know or we don't really have to know... as long as the music can speak for itself. Joey is a businessman and you need one to sustain a band. Say what you want, they wouldn't be able to sell these big venues if it wasn't for Joey and his ideas. Remember, a band cannot just bank on old fan base, they have to create new ones to survive. Songs like "die for metal" do nothing for me while it's a HUGE hit for younger fans
i love RTB but there is no way he would be able to play the new stuff
He is not a shredder like Karl or Dave, and I'm glad he isn't. Shredders are absolutely everywhere but no one embraced punk, country, blues, rockabilly, hard rock, heavy metal and then formed a style of his own like Ross has. His solos on black wind, wheels of fire, h&k tell us how metal he is even without Karl/Dave's arpeggios/sweeps/string skip/ pedal tones etc etc
Love Manowar, band member politics aside.
MANOWAR! \m/
They are here to make everything metal! Blacker than the blackest black...times infinity! And in a distorted way it's kinda what they did! Hahaha. Still love em, lets be honest most entertainers/celebrities are disconnected dipshits, so lets just enjoy the music and forget the faces.
agreed. I'm still proud of my Sign of the Hammer tattoo and love much of their music. Still an inspiration to this day.
Eric Adams❣❣
I heard Ross feels that the whole "true metal" thing ruined the band
Except that is the band. That is their image and it is what makes their albums what they are..
wouldn't be surprised if there is some truth to that statement. I think the "true metal" thing of course was a smokescreen at times (as discussed in the video) for other failures the band had. Like when Demaio infamously said in the late nineties, "we've been on 17 record labels!" as if this is a point of confidence with regards to staying true to their music. Of course, behind the scenes, being kicked off 17 record labels could be because you're a lousy businessperson when it comes to music, and labels tire of you quickly lol. Not saying of course that most record labels aren't piles of shit (the music industry being infamous for predatory assholes preying upon musicians money wise) but still I think a point can be made
TheMadMattster I would be ashamed to tell the world that we had 17 record labels.
I've always felt major cringe with Manowar
I had to stop listening at the 17 labels parts. Wow we have been on 17 labels, OK I get that. But then you made the assumption that they were dropped. How do you know that? Do you also have breakfast with them? Give me a break.
Super Star from Blabbermouth?
LMAO I find your assessment lame. The fact that they stand alone, walk their own path, and don't bend to big wigs at record labels or jump ship when people try to sway them is a huge part of what makes them so awesome and beloved.
That’s cool you’re entitled to your opinion of their modern work even if it isn’t shared by many longtime fans
@@themadmattster9647 I made no mention of their modern works, I was directly addressing your attack on the entire ethos that ManOwaR have had from the start.
You took 5 months to gather a thought, and it wasn't even approaching coherence.
i bought into glory tape fer 2 bux in 86, n thought they wer great, till i saw em do an interview, n i thought "they're serious ??" n i fergot about em..but, if they coulda been more funny i think they'd been bigger, sill, if u tell dnd people about em, they will keep gettin fans, lol, thyr perfect fer dnd games! [when will people learn, manowar won't make you cool!!]
case in point, gwarr was never as good/technical as manowar, but, they wer funny, n got way bigger
In my opinion what hurt man of war greatly was having the faceless mascot. Compare to Eddie from iron maiden. That ghostly ghul hypnotized me into buying Number of the beast when I was 11 years old. The Conan the barbarian character with no face though leaves you confused. Not good. I think if their mascot had a face that captivated people's imagination they would have done much better.
I like the mascot. It intentionally has no face because - as Eric Adams said - it can be the face of anyone who would like to feel the sense of achievement as the mascot - i.e. yours.
@@user-wx4ge1pe5i I heard Erik Adams when he said that, I still don't agree. I think he got it wrong. should of had a face. I mean, when you look at the Man O'War mascot are you doing what Eric says? imagining your own face on the mascot? Nope. nobody's doing that
Leave the hall.
I see you really watched the video lol
I love the the Final Battle EP I. I think Manowar is better than ever!
it wasn't half bad. At least it didn't sound like it was recorded in Joey's shed or something lol
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Saw em at Masters of Rock 2010, totally shite show, Primal Fear blew them away easily 🍻🤘🤘🤘
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Manowar is a way of life ,you think to much that is the real problem
You need to get out more
Lmao
FALL ? YOU ARE CLEARLY FALSE !!! THEY ARE STILL KICKING ASS !!! 🎸
Haha ok
@@themadmattster9647 😉
you know outside of the united states they're one of the biggest metal bands on the planet right?
What do ukeep on saying Man? Even though they arent that popular these days..theyre still more Metal..than i bet..any new metal bands youre listening to right now..besides they have made their mark and have lots of good killer hits..none could match the power that the Gods gave to Manowar..true kings of metal..unlike all crap new trying to be metal crap like Slipknot and others..id stick to the Kings of metal..the real brothers of Metal!
I love Manowar and will for the rest of my life, I have the sign of the hammer tattooed on my right shoulder and they have made an indelible mark on my life. That being said, I feel that they, like anyone else, isn't above criticism. I feel like it's a case of squandered potential, especially with their recent career moves, and missteps.
You false metal.. Enemies of metal!
Manowar is kings of metal!
Haha
manowar arent a marketable band and never will be they play music that is not for the masses unfortunately now that they are older and looking to retire try to make as much money they can. this video says nothing at all worth listening or seeing just another manowar hater
Lol. You realize I have a fucking tattoo of Manowar right? Some hater lol
@@themadmattster9647 hi first when did you have the tattoo and second if you are a Manowar fan why all this irony and DeMaio ridicule. finally, what are you trying to prove in your video, how did Manowar fail? I don't understand, did you want them to be commercially successful like Metallica arent you satisfied by their album all these forty years, I just don't get what are you trying to establish.
@@vielnast3628 So you can't like a band and criticize them at the same time? You absolutely have to worship them even if some of their decisions they did are really questionable. Being commercially successful isn't necessarily a bad thing, these are musicians who deserve to earn decent money. DeMaio deserves all the ridicule because he's way too cringy and obviously an asshole to fellow musicians. Even if this whole "true metal" talk is their schtick and essential part of their image not to be taken seriously, that Joey guy has become a self-parody.
@@davorbrijacak critisizing is way different from making fun of. De maio is not a full and although he may seems so to you it is because you hate manowar and deep inside yourself. Its very different to love a band and listen to their music to worshipping them. Maybe you never really listened to them just worshipped them yourself and when they did something different than you liked or expected you just unleashed so much hatted. Well Manowar cannot be harmed by the likes of you and their epic metal music will live forever!
@@vielnast3628 I like bunch of their stuff, especially Ross the Boss stuff, and I always made fun of their over the top image, but that Lord of Steel album, rerecordings of two classic albums, Final Tour that never ends, DeMaio being a total asshole and weirdo, and finally Karl Logan a paedophile, that deserves a critic.
They were always a joke comedy band. Very uneven albums, with only a couple of decent songs, the rest felt just like improvisation and jamming.
I feel like the first four albums are very even. The hit and miss didn't come until after that.
That said, even then Mercyful Fate, Judas Priest, and Iron Maiden all topped them in any albums that they released in the same years. They were solid but just never good enough to compete with those bands. Halls of Valhalla is what a Manowar song SHOULD sound like.
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At least Joey DeMayo didnt storm the capitol. Yet
I support storming the Capitol, just not for Trump, just to get our corrupt government in general
Please everyone report this as abusive content
LOL
are you Joey's son?
Yes, someone report this band to authorities and let them know that their fans are a legion of snowflakes that get butthurt over small things that even my sweet grandma would giggle at
Karl Logan is not a harm to society and is not a sex offender. You can't hold Karl responsible and punish him for the actions of others. Although no one is suppose to download or view illegal porn, but it was made available online by others that may of tempted him to see it or download it if in fact he did. Arrest the ones who held the video camera and take the illegal porn away but Karl may not deserve jail time depending on the content and other factors. He may be guilty of failing to report that illegal video or image to the police depending on the content if it was his duty to do so to allow the authorities to investigate, if it wasn't his duty to report it then he did nothing to anyone. I like Manowar ALOT, and I want him back in the band. HAIL HEAVY F'ING METAL.
It is an abusive content.
kind of like the pictures Karl Logan was looking at?
@@themadmattster9647 I have a theory that Joey was looking at the same pictures but didn't get caught. lol
Well you know Manowar can be a little silly , and their music is to fairytale medieval time era type shit lol ,
Love epic metal , Manowar are theatrical.They should have worked on a musical in their prime.I believe that Zionist - established record companies in the US have never forgiven the vast success of two ( Eric and Joey ) Italian Catholic boys.Joey was ( maybe he is still into ) a member of the Knights of Malta - a division of Templar Knights.
Because their music is garbage
Wrong
@@themadmattster9647 that’s ok with me - you keep enjoying garbage music.
Over 30 years of being the best heavy metal band in the world and people still don't back off....Didn't you get the message in the 80s? They're not here for you, they're here for us. Understand this and go back to Metallica.
you clearly didn't watch the video, did you?
@@themadmattster9647 The comment was not for you.