The Reason Why Homeworld 3 Had A Terrible Story - Ruined By Woke DEI Involvement
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- Опубликовано: 22 авг 2024
- Homeworld 3 was a big disappointment after 20 years of waiting and particularly in the story department! Even tough Blackbird Interactive sought fan feedback form Homeworld 3 and promised no involvement from Gearbox. Tt turns out that a Gearbox employee has a great deal to do with writing the game and it's characters and the drastic change in focus away from traditional homeworld and in a new current year direction! Along with involvement from Sweet baby Inc style organizations. This was a video game disaster waiting to happen
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Whenever a subsidiary says their parent company/publisher has "no involvement", they are lying.
100% of the time.
Like classic domestic abuse, if you blab, you get the hand again. So just say you fell up the stairs.
@@reggie6230 Like Shiftup and Sony with Stellar Blade, "It was our choice to censor our own game for "technical" reasons".
The upcoming game Kingdom come deliverence2 has deepsliver as the publisher which is bad. They self publish on the first one, now I think the 2nd game will be woke or has man jaw shemale.
@@Dayz3O6 That is bad news. I really liked the first game. Worst part is they will also most likely have them mess with the first game as well. So if you have it in digital only, better rip it to save it in original form.
I've heard that non-disparagement clauses can essentially force them to cover for their parent companies. Also, there's the old truism that whoever signs your paycheck is your boss.
3 Women bicker about feelings, kill half the galaxy. ONE WOMAN bickers about story...RUINS A BELOVED SERIES!
I'd give my opinion about how much women have done to the world but I'd get rubbed out being honest.
@@reggie6230it makes the muslims look right.
@@reggie6230Women just fuq shite up. There's a reason why the religions all over the world say women are to submit to men.
This is why we need to gatekeep. But too many men are simps and allow women in male spaces. And ince they're in, they take over via manipulation.
@@malaficus increasingly so, yes.
The size of the chins will continue to increase until the sales improve!
Giggity giggity
hey, the alt-right say that large chin is a sign of gigachad, turns out it's the opposite
I wanted a Habsburg restoration, but not like this! Not like this!
19 seconds in: I see pink hair and a nose ring, I expect bad things.
19 secs....damn no chill from Arch in this one 🤤
Unless it's Anime pink or Blue hair is the GTFO signal
It's like seeing a poisonous spider in the woods: you just step back and turn around, you don't give it your money.
stop noticing patterns, STOP IT
...problem glasses
Homeworld was always about a people, a military journey, the removal of outdated beliefs through the discovery of ancient history.
And now it’s about three people. How small Homeworld 3 feels. So much smaller than it’s predecessors.
Yes, its so painful how they turned a massive space odysse into a drama spat between three women in a college dorm.
All hail Cataclysm and the Beast... Chadest Captain is a god damn Miner
@@mathis8210 That is because that is all the writers know.
They have no life experience and no wisdom, just whatever tiktok short form thoughts that bounce around that nearly empty cavity called a skull.
@@ReaVen443 The best game in the series, and they mostly write it out of the canon. Glory to the Beast Slayers!
Steam reviews complained about the poor story in a similar manner.
Even the ones that are positive about the game overall.
8:50 "The two writers credited Lin Joyce..." - I've seen this before. You have a vision and are competent in a franchise lore, but you have to report to a superior who can veto anything you say or propose - even to the detriment of the story. What do you do? Credit her with all the praise, responsibility and foresight for the crap that's about to hit the fan.
Same thing happened with Rings of Power, The Acolyte, all of Kathleen Kennedy's horrible movies etc.
Gearbox? Say no more. I played Borderlands 3, I know what their writing is like now.
Borderlands ends after the OG Tales to me, far as I’m concerned the Calypso Twins died at birth and BL3 never happened.
holee shieet that's bad writing
Their writing was obnoxious as early as Borderlands 2, but fewer people had broken the conditioning back then.
@@7Seven-Four4
I loved the writing in Borderlands 2, but Handsome Jack made that game what it is. They were never able to recapture the magic after that. It's not just that I'm sick of the schtick; the writing is just worse. I genuinely felt pathos at some of the tragedies that happened in the first two games, but not at all in any of the more recent stuff.
Lin Joyce was involved in that too, and she was Lead Writer for New Tales from the Borderlands...
Ancient wisdom: A drop of honey will not make the bucket of shiet better. But a drop of shiet will certainly ruin a bucket of honey.
DEI writer: Got it. 'pulls down their pants and starts shitting violently.'
The full on meltdown by the Gearbox community manager in the Steam forums when people brought up the writers involvement in Borderlands was the cherry on top.
DEI kills another game.
Homeworld Deserts of Kharak: Our homeworld is dying, sand is everywhere. It's coarse and rough. There is ancient technology in the desert that could help us. We must go on this potential suicide mission deep into the territory of religious zealots.
Homeworld 1: Turns out we are the punished descendants of space nazis. The galaxy wants us dead for the sins of our forefathers. Our homeworld is gone. We must now find a new one and survive.
Homeworld Cataclysm: Space aids has become sentient and wants to devour the galaxy. Our ancient foes embittered by their loss of power to us have sided with the space aids out of spite towards us. We contain the space aids, or the galaxy dies.
Homeworld 2: Religious warrior zealots quest for hyper advanced technology to bring about the apocalypse. We must stop them from achieving their goal and protect our people and the galaxy.
Homeworld 3: Magic space queen with a sob story wants to rule the galaxy. You must stop her by saving her.
Wait, Makaan wanted to bring apocalypse to universe or to Hiigarans?
@@NeoBeelzemon He thought he was the chosen one and its basically implied once he's done with the Hiigarans he's going to go for anyone else in the galaxy.
@@khoid he meant extermination or subjecting?
true
@@NeoBeelzemon Makkan wanted to rule. His crazed followers only tried to Kharak Hiigara because we killed him. Makkan is Paul Atreides.
HW3 tried to be God Emperor of Dune and failed at it. In fact every HW game has a major parallel to Dune.
They humanized and softened Karan (plus made her old) which directly undersells HW3's message about the danger of creating immortal meta-humans with weird powers and being ruled by them. The plot would've hit a lot harder if Karan was more aloof and monotone, maybe arrogant, with mysterious motives, even with the queen being just as cringey and unstable.
They _always_ identify with the villains, don't they?
I think so, which is why the villain got an oddly nice and unexplained send-off instead of just being obliterated.
They're aligned with pedos IRL, so yeah, I think you could extend that conclusion.
Because they are villains themselves. Just like every communist they think they are going to be the boss and they are quite happy to have others kill those who disagree, they never do that deed themselves though of course.
Lynn rothschilds goons covering for her
Because they are overgrowth children with zero impulse controls. So they identify with characters that act in the same way, narcissists that think the world own their every desire. And find heros, people that have power but don't give up to the temptation to use it to their own benefit in the detriment of other, as "boring".
The first thing i said when i looked at the story in the campaign was "what is this AI art bullshit?". And then Imogen spoke, and then i emediately blurted out "WHO THE HELL ARE YOU! i hate your voice!"
Made me miss rachel sjet from DoK
Good reaction, you are innoculated
When i saw that they actually put an actual face on the motherships and people in general. i knew they don't understand anything about homeworld and i didn't even play the games 20 years ago. i played them 2 years ago. homeworld was a myth, a bronze age arabian style myth. there is no place for small politics or people feeling when you're in charge of a whole race survival. it's a story more about the journey more than the destination. it's a journey of struggle and sacrifice from many unknown and known dangers.
desert of kharak is the only exception to this and it's still vague.
you see rachel's face like twice in the whole campaign?
HW1 is exodus
DoK is the story of Abraham
This... That's the point, the scale was always big, not about the individuals
@@erikesswein4608 not really. Exile stories predate the bible
@@marcogenovesi8570But it's a useful illustration of what he considers the difference.
I should point out that in an interview following the major delay from the initial Homeworld 3 release, Ron Cunningham used the phrase "situation-normal," which is actual military jargon for "snafu," which is "situation normal, all fucked up." He literally told us what was going on with that simple phrase.
Kabrutus already put the DEI nail in the coffin on that game.
That man is doing God's work, and I only mean that half jokingly.
@@FreakazoidRobots Amen Brother
@@FreakazoidRobots their discord server was hijacked and a lot of work deleted (but they managed to contain the situation). Since I wholeheartedly agree with him and his work I decided to donate a few "beers" to their team.
I don’t understand how there is no one at any of these companies whose job it is to objectively look at these games. Like are they so afraid of offending DEI people that they are unwilling to say the writing is terrible?
All fired.
they are, as if they offend DEI, its pretty quick for the mastercard to come in and say nyett.
it is money ironically.
DEI bounties are a scam and here is how they work.
If you have X you get X money. So of you have the main lead already as A woman then it sounds like easy money.
Yet the moment you let these people in claiming they can point you for more free money rather than seeing if the fickle masses will make up that loss of 'free money.'
And that is how DEI bounties get the game consultants to ruin things or in this case... Ensure that those of the like minded ideas ensure that nobody who doesn't agree with with their politics gets promoted and instead more likely to get fired instead.
Then if the company goes under... The ones up top escape mostly free while the ones underneath go under.
This game was ruined by the promotion of the toxic element as they show the DEI checklist to promise more free money to convince anyone who is trying to make.money that this is a good idea.
The more you know the more it sucks.
They're not afraid. They're cohorts.
The people who were against this dei stuff were probably fired or removed from decision making positions.
And then, that dei investment money is probably enough to blind the executives and investors... Until it starts running out and panic starts setting in
And now we also have CD Period RED.
Poland has fallen...
The last time it did was the best time 😊
Always has been
Been that way for years now
poland cucked itself for nato and the eu figured out they didn't need to let them play-act social conservatism, so now it can be anti-Russia and pro-lgbt
The sad part is, they'll blame the IP and the genre saying "No one plays RTS's anymore" etc
What a shame, imagine if a new Supreme commander came around and was actually good. Oh well, back to forged alliance.
@@tekrit3249 Supreme Commander, GOOD C&C, Dark Reign and so many more.
But they didn't make an RTS though. They made a cutscene sequencer sometimes interrupted by on-rails rush tactics best tactics "gameplay".
It won't work when they say the same excuse for other genres they invade and still won't learn their lesson. 😒
I suggest to check either zero-k or beyond all reason if you need to satisfy the hunger for good rts.
*MYTH OF THE WIDER AUDIENCE*
they want to create that myth because they want to be nrmalised, but hmsexuality and people of colour in white countries is not normal and will never be
O the people they are targeting are definitely wider alright.
actually they are wider just not numerous
It's the greatest lie in marketing, games always target niches.
@@techpriest6962 wana target a niche? Target straight white men.
All these acolyte writers from The Church of Woke get into games NOT because they like games. But because they hate YOU, and seek to change you through their missionary work.
Oh they have changed me alright. They changed me to hate them and hope that they delete themselves.
@@misanthropicattackhelicopt4148 They believe that once all games push their narrative, you will still play some and be slowly saved.
@NeoN-PeoN still got years and years worth of backlog from pre-2014, I'm probably set for a few years before I have to touch most of the modern trash, HD2 being a notable outlier
@@quigglebertI don't mind cycling back I have the classics on disc, they can try and limit me but short of limiting electricity there's nothing they can do.
@Jadefox32 they are running tests for that in California.
Name a video game franchise/company that hasn’t been corrupted by the Chaos cult of Woke.
STOP MAKING THE SAME COMMENT. dude. we agree with you but god. EVERY TIME I SEE YOU. you make the same version of the same comment over and over.
tbh chaos cults are more meritocratic and cool than any wokie could ever be
Legacy of Kain. Because it's a dead franchise. Hope it stays that way given the current climate sadly.
@CoolSs
Eff off. Persistence is the only tool we had left and this guy is fighting the way he can. I just hope he also comments on other videos.
Boltgun
It was such a disappointment and to be honest I expected that from the beginning. The story was never about S’Jet. It was about the Kushan and their journey to take back Hiigara. The second game continues that, it was always about something greater than any one person. It never focused on a single character because that just doesn’t make sense for the story being told.
Even the much more personal Cataclysm still never showed us actual people in cutscenes or even any character names despite how much more personal the story felt to that crew.
This game was very clearly not written by someone who understood homeworld and instead wanted to create yet another character focused story about a boss babe and her highly diverse cast of friends defeating the other boss babe who can’t ever be shown to be evil at any point.
It was so generic it hurt my soul. Homeworld was special because it was unique, and it looks like a damned pink haired feminist ruined that for us.
At least the gameplay is good. Though I do want to strangle the person who thought it would be a good idea to make abilities universal and required to use.
may Homeworld Cataclysm one day return
The occasional named character in the Homeworld games were basically instruments of the story. Homeworld 3 switched that around and the story became an instrument to tell another story that is far too obviously of its time and...mediocre at best. The original story of loss, struggle, survival and discovery is a universal one and will stand the test of time. Not this one.
@@meeper46 man Disney could do a remaster of Cataclysm and I would still buy that shit, and I have boycotted them for like 5 years straight now.
Too true, just look at the first game. When you select the mother ship, it responds with, "Mothership." Not Karen. Not S'jet. Mothership, because it's not about the woman who sacrificed herself to make the thing work. It's about the fact that the Mothership carries the last of your people.
Homeworld 1 is mechanically and narratively about preserving your people and finding your true homeworld in a hostile galaxy. Homeworld two is mechanically and narratively about preserving that homeworld against a hostile galaxy. Homeworld Cataclysm is mechanically and narratively about preserving the galaxy against an all consuming horror.
Homeworld 3, from what I've seen is a teenage fanfiction level story about the author's OC, original character, do not steal.
I thought the story of Homeworld 2 was a disappointment. Like you said, the first game was about the Kushan people trying to return to their ancestral home. The second was basically a collection of "ancient prophesies" and "chosen one" clichés. I was up the wall when the Bentusi killed themselves for basically no reason, just because the mentor character is typically expected to die.
So basically we have a Steven Universe story, got it.
Huh?
@@DeathSithe92 In the cartoon Steven Universe every villain is essentially Hitler that gets a redemption, like you probably seen the meme where Steven says that Erebus was just misunderstood and that he is a good guy now.
@@Auriorium I'd say it's more that she gets an Angron happy ending. She saw death as a good option, not the BEST option maybe, but better than... Fail and live."
I'm really getting tired of now seeing how a Villain who did destroy millions of lives to billions (depending on the setting) somehow gets let off easy for their crimes and in the worse cases either: A. joins the heroes or B. get's let off Scot free for their crimes and even excused or their actions by some terrible excuses like their daddy did not love them or some rubbish.
@@RomanHistoryFan476AD Its the entire mentality of "don't hurt them because you will end up like them." I hated it as a kid and I hate it now.
It wasn't just woke, it was also just bad.
Woke by definition is bad.
Name one game where it being woke has made it better, or at best didn't impact negatively the game.
Yes.
Same thing. Woke means forcefully injecting personal gender or racial viewpoints into a media. There is no way to make that compelling.
Why'd you say it twice?
Three words for why this game doesn't exist for me. Sweet. Baby. Incorporated.
Wait, SBI touched the game? 😰
I didn't know that, but I still refunded the game... if I knew that I would never had bought it.
@@TornadoADV Not SBI, but another company of similar background. The so nicely called "Center for Diversity in Games"
they also ban people on steam who mention this
@@RoulicisThe it's on sweet baby detected's list and I would assume that sweet baby worked on it considering we're listed in the credits.
The thing that bothers me most about Imogen is not the chin, though that is funny. It's that she is so unprofessional and doesn't seem to be ready at all for the position she is in. She is fleet command, essentially admiral of an entire fleet and she cries and flinches over her soldiers' deaths in front of her subordinates. Can you imagine a US Navy admiral breaking down on the bridge of his flagship right at the opening of combat? It would be different is she maintained a facade of command when connected to her soldiers and then second guesses herself in isolation but she doesn't. It's so jarring when compared to HW1's "Kharak is being consumed by a firestorm. The scaffold has been destroyed." told in a flat military report style but with this subtle constrained emotion behind it where you can just tell it's taking everything he's got to maintain it.
To be honest, seeing the types they promote these days in the US military I would not be surprised.
The dispassion with which "Kharak is burning" is delivered serves as a stark counterpoint to the horror of what just happened. It feels to me like that's the point. There's a job to do right now. We'll grieve later once we're safe. That in contrast to the panicked cries of your pilots as you send them to die to preserve the Mothership and the last of your people. Homeworld 1 shows you the burden of command. Homeworld 3 had to tell you.
@@CowCommando And a great delivery by your XO in the cutscene after: "The prisoners did not survive interrogation".
Yeah, and you can hear Intel really struggling to hold himself together. God knows what the motherships crew did to those captured Taiidan but they most certainly did not survive.
It's because they self-insert in their stories. They ARE unprofessional and incompetent.
Gatekeep. And if its too late for that, boycot.
Without respect, we reject.
Hail to the Doomcock massive ✌🏻
Fuck, not Homeworld.
I was really looking forward to this one. I remember the first two games, I played them when they came out. It was not about individuals, the stakes were intensely high, the story was epic as everything was on the line. These cut scene animations shown in the video look pathetic and off-putting. My hopes of this franchise sticking to its original ideas and slipping under the ideology radar were obviously naive and just wishful thinking. This continues to be an all out war.
Fuck you Gearbox, not just for this, this is just one of many crimes.
Well said the original and cataclysm is still so memorable even after all this time
The moment I learned Gear Box had bought the IP was when I gave up hope for the franchise, Greasy Randy Pitchford is just bad news.
Man ... this hurts more than most of the other games ruined by those cancerous fuckers because this series I fking loved with all my heart and played it multiple time over the years, both the originals or the remastered series. I have waited for 10-15 years just to see an entire series put into the ground by some fanatics.
This was already known for gamers, with SBI detected. Avoid these games at ALL COST
Yea, whenever I see a game with SBI detected I avoid it like a plague.
Denuvo , horse armor and LGBT+, the Three horseman of the apocalypse of gaming, we are waiting for the last one.
Sometimes i wonder where do these companies get the money to afford paying for Denuvo anyway? There was that Zau indy game released some weeks ago that had Denuvo too, and it sold in the thousands with 100 people peak playing it on steam. From what i know it costs an arm and a leg to have Denuvo in your game.
Feminism.
@@BlunthammerNah. EA gave us a glimpse of the 4th horseman : in-game ads for full-priced AAA games
season passes, ubisoft literally removing games from your library, I think we're well into the gaming post-apocalypse at this point.
@@fnors2 yah, yours seems better.
Man, good thing we have a large backlog of pre-woke era games to enjoy!
Suchs as?
@@malaficus are you stupid
@@malaficus Older Games and some Indie Games.
@@malaficus I mean for example, Homeworld 1 & 2, as well as Homeworld Cataclysm for starters.
@@malaficuswe have a ton of indies to play that we don't even know existed.
It got changed to the Story of Emo-Chin. Nuff said. This is not homeworld, this is a fanfic
Calling it a fanfict would imply they where a fan to begin with.
It's classical anti-fanfic. Made by those who at best don't care about the original, at worst actively hate it.
The "Incarnate" thing also really annoys me.
The reason that the enemies get designated the "Incarnate" in the game is that on your first communication with them, their leader refer to themselves as "Her Will Incarnate". Despite the fact that we know they have a different name for their actual fleet assets. Also the game starts referring to the Queen of Hyperspace as the "Incarnate Queen" after this.
I guess you could explain away the first one by saying that Incarnate is what the crew start referring to them as, but I don't know about the Queen.
Yeah, that was jarring. I didn't mind the initial name, because it's useful to use a name for your enemies. But as the story progressed, the player should have learned more about the enemy faction and their lore. And finally, a real name. Something that actually fit within the lore... you know... like Kushan, Taiidan, Vaygr, ect. Those names have actual character, in large part because they're not English words.
Remember people: NO PREODERS!
I skipped the instant I saw that it was on fig.
I am kind of sad that my gut feeling was right. At least I might be able to get the models on ebay cheaper...
I did the same, I Really wanted those models, they are amazing and epic looking and I'm a huge fan of the homeworld series.....but I've been spurred before and held off and it payed off....but still....I'm sad that I was right to do so...
Well I preordered, as it was no sign that BBI would end the Homeworld like this back then. Of course in hindsight I would also no pre ordered. Now, my only hope is that BBI is bold enough to do as much as possible to make up for this. But with closing forums feedback, it doesnt seem bright, we see :(
“What happened to Homeworld 3”
Sweet Baby Inc. happened. This is what happens when you hire Slacktivist “devs”.
I got banned on reddit for mentioning them
Remember the Brethren Moons from Dead Space and how they consumed countless civilizations to feed their hunger? This is exactly what’s happening here as well.
Dead Space is another franchise that was devoured by terrible story and design decisions.
@@ayanithtalreignAt least back then it was caused by EA attempting to force an action horror series to be a massive multi media IP.
To think, a company just being greedy and making bad decisions is somehow better than a company deliberately injecting socialism into their games and tanking them.
@@ayanithtalreign Got killed at NO 3. by poor understand of what made the game, and what dead space was about as they introduced the first ingame purchases But it has been in part resurrected... It will probalby have an equally stupid game since these people will ride the corpse of IPs
@@ayanithtalreignto be fair it was ruined by corporate greed which until now was the worst thing we thought could happen to a franchise
>Gearbox
There's your problem.
Why is it in woke writing do they always try to redeem Hitler?
As another commenter put it this is basically the Steven Universe mentality, when it comes to woke writing everyone deserves a second chance despite their actions being borderline irredeemable.
It's very simple: They are evil and they want people to forgive them for that. They know that'll never happen, so they act out their fantasies in front of us.
@@RogueFox2185 Everyone, except the people they deem untermench.
@@Archris17 Considering the Gearbox employee acting like the furher and dictating the entire game.
Dude, blackbird are just as bad, they ruined hardspace shipbreakers halfway through early access by pivoting from a work sim to a socialist lecture
You should also look into involvement by "Diversity in Games" (formerly known as "Women in Games") - credited in special thanks - and "Timbre Games" - a diversity consulting firm founded by the wife of BBI's president.
This alone says everything there needs to be said. Wish i never preordered. But will surely not buy anything from them again. Time to pay attention to the DEI detected website and the steam group.
The only thing you need to know about DE&I is that the "E" does NOT stand for "Equality". That tells you everything of any importance.
Didn't
Earn
It
Equity, which is impossible to have alongside Equality. Equity must kill Equality to live.
Just like the French revolution -- promised Equality, Fraternity and Freedom, but got a despotic emperor from italian mafia, ruling class of revolutionaries from the lowlife and everyone disagreeing was jailed
@@razoleg Jailed ? They invented the guillotine because they couldn't chop heads fast enough the old fashioned "axe" way. They called that period "the terror". Jail he says ... lol.
@@razoleg And that's the difference between Rousseau and Payne as inspirations for your revolution
As soon as I heard "writer from gearbox" I knew it was over. Imagine hiring one of the people who took something like Borderlands, a game with passible writing but exelent comedic timing and very well made characters, and then making BL3. That woman should never touch pen to paper again.
You shouldn't only blame gearbox, Blackbird are just as bad, Hardspace Shipbreakers launched into early access with a highly promising but bare bones salvaging system as its gameplay loop, started to expand that system but halfway through development they pivoted to make the game a terribly written lecture about unions and socialism, making lynx cartoonishly evil and the workers rise up. The unskipable dialogue locking you out of gameplay for up to 5 minutes, the lack of new ships to salvage, no mod support, then they abandoned the game. Blackbird is terrible.
Agreed, hated the bait and switch they pulled.
Early on in Early Access we were teased about rogue AIs, and other things of concern from the fringes of space; and a collectable game where the goal was to fix your own hunker so you could retire off to Jupiter.
Dang it, I just wanted to weld!
seems like the beast wasn't truly defeated after all... its infection still spreads
Solid HWC callback sir, I applaud you.
You know what ? I'd have taken another Beast infection over whatever we got here.
Someone call Kiith Somtaaw
@@burnttoast26The Miners of Kiith Somtaaw sacrificed much, and risked all. For their efforts they were brought into the innermost circle of Hiigaran power. Nabaal, S’jet and Sobani bower before them. And from that day to this, Somtaaw’s children have been known to one and all as Beastslayers.
"At least the Beast doesn't pretend to be righteous!"
The Beast infection has spread again.
The beast at least fights/spreads to insure its own survival. Woke virus just wants to burn everything down.
Time to become beast hunters.
@@Amraphel I think we need more Explorer class ships, and maybe to work out the Kuun-Lan's conversion into a new class template. (I mean we won't have a siege cannon, but I bet a big old Ion cannon will do the trick.)
@@Sorain1 I like your thinking!
Homeworld 3's villain reminds of me Kevin Smith's Masters of the Universe and Evil Lyn. Yeah, she may have killed loads of people and destroyed literally Heaven, but she was having a moment, so be nice to her.
From what I remember they essentially pulled a McCragge moment and shredded her along with her ship like tissue paper.
But I guess they did it in the nicest way possible.
Yes, I do recall earlier posts which said they would follow more in line with the Progenitors.
But instead, we got "The Ancient, unseen, Uber-Navigator." Who was misjudged, and that explains away her spiritual-genocide.
There was also concept art for ships with the same paint scheme as the Karos Graveyard Office
Yeah. Like following in the footsteps of the Progenitors. As it still isn’t known what happened to them.
And so another highly regarded IP is put on ice for the foreseeable future. Hopefully long enough to have the copyright lapse and thus make it free to use by people who actually like the setting without the interference of the DEI cultists.
Copyrights are 75+ years long, we'll all be long gone before that ever happens....
According to a post on Artstation by Noah Stacey, a principal artist at BBI, the character in the original trailer was Karan S'Jet. It seems she got replaced by Imogen during the rewrites shuffle where we also lost the painted cutscenes. I posted a link before, but youtube deleted the comment.
Had to replace Karan with someone else for plausible deniability, otherwise everyone would have immediately know they'd ruined the story on purpose.
YT removes any posts with links. They also remove 95% of others for no reason at all.
look what they did to my girl
NOBODY should be surprised. Hardspace Shipbreaker was woke garbage too. They literally banned everyone who called the main DIE character called Lou "Loutard".
Loutard lol im sad i missed that
Huh? What happened with Hardspace Shipbreaker?
Eh, that's not how i remember her character. From what i remember Lou was just encouraging her workmates to rise up against a corporation that treated them like indentured servants. I wouldn't necessarily call that woke.
@@killman369547 While I kinda had the same impression due to how over-the-top the corporation was and the fact that she did not steal the show, I did not like Lou. Still, she at least tried to take responsibility for the FAFO.
I haven't seen anyone mention the weird hyperspace ram almost an homage to the star wars pink haired hyper ram woman/person/theythem. Also, Imogen looks a lot like a Lin Joyce self insert.
First impression I got without even seeing the real person. Imogen is a blatant self-insert fanfic character. "She was the bestest evar 'navigator' trained PERSONALLY by S'jet herself but then S'jet disappeared and now it's her bestest student's job to find her and fix everything."
They get yeeted out of a hyperspace gate and ram the mostly intact wreck of a heavy freighter. I'm not defending the rest of the game but that scene was at least lore compliant, as opposed to the soy wars travesty.
Not a hyperspace ram, they exit the gate and the ram happens in realspace.
Funnily enough, Hyperspace in homeworld can be weaponised but it’s more of being a giant mine. Specifically the great hyperspace core on Kharak pulled any nearby ships in hyperspace and forced them to crash on Kharak or worse, exit hyperspace inside the planet.
F me. i got into homeworld because of mandaloregaming and kip (year or two ago). played all the games except 3 and it seem i will keep it that way. what a shame.
Oh yeah, Mandy‘s Homeworld vids are the shit, especially the Cataclysm one.
@@SwampGreen14
The keeper is aware
The keeper understands
The keeper has seen the enemy
Pointing out how the characters suddenly have faces is a good point.
EVEN when the IP doesn't have any races or identity that require to be "diversifying", they WILL add them in.
Well technically HW2 and DoK had faces but they weren’t shoved down your throat and they were more of profile pictures. Like Captain Soban, the various Intel officers, etc
I wanted homeworld for the storyline.. I don't care about the multiplayer or the skirmish modes.. I wanted another space opera that made me feel tiny..Not a character drama.
I don't know why I had hope that this time it would be different. It's been a decade since games didn't have this recurring issue.
But yes, women don't have a sense of justice. One of the many problems they have maintaining a civilization with their lack of objectivity.
Nor a sense of proportion.
@@badlaamaurukehu Explains recent female character design
A game woke'd is money saved.
But it's still a shame.
That is a good point. I will try to tell myself that more from now on.
YES! And especially when these f*****g AAA studios are jacking up prices obscenely.
What the actor who played Imogen said about the story says it all, all she had to say was about Imogen's feelings and how Imogen felt in about her role in the fleet. Totally self absorbed, as if the universe revolves around her, which is exactly what the woke ideology wants, nay demands, women think.
They should have named her Imogen Bogdanoff
The story actually becomes better if you think that Bogdanoff brothers are in process of bogging the whole universe.
Female Character: Commits galactic genocide.
Narrative: "Oh you poor thing, here have a blanket and some warm coco."
Oh welp, time to do another Battlefleet: Gothic Armada campaign run. At least it was made before Games Workshop lost their marbles...
This story did not "have plot holes" It was a plot hole, with some story fragments inside it.
At one point the Queen hyperspaced a moon into a planet to destroy it, just to create an asteroid field to annoy you when you leave the jump gate.
Apparently someone with a childs mind (We can probably guess who) thought that sounded cool and big.
Why doesnt she just hyperspace a fucking moon on you then, when you leave the gate? Problem solved.
And remember when in Deserts of Kharak you found a few frigates that accidentally hyperspaced into the planets surface? But now in HW3, horseface tells us "Thats impossible, never happened before".
The most generous interpretation I can give to the hyperspacing a ship into something reaction is that the ship is totally fine, that would legitimately shock everyone. Pity these evil gutter scum don't deserve anything generous except high speed munition donations.
Well regarding those ships that exited hyperspace inside Kharak, that was because of the great hyperspace core pulling any ships that got too close in. So that would presumably be a method of weaponising hyperspace, as essentially giant mines. But yeah, the Queen could’ve easily hijacked the hyperspace cores and force them to exit inside a planet or Star or something.
I see they seem to have locked down the steam forums to prevent people talking now.
As they do
When you cut out a man's tongue, you do not prove him wrong, you only show that you fear what he has to say
I don't know if someone has named this phenomenon yet but I'm tied between calling it Female Erasure and Traswomanification.
Someone has actually. His name is Yuri Bezmenov. He's a former KGB agent and he did an interview of the KGB's mission of "Ideological subversion" in the west, you should watch it if you can find it, it's quite eye opening.
*Been wondering what went wrong*
*Sees pink hair and nose ring*
Ah, say no more my good man. Say no more. It suddenly all makes sense.
Another self-centred, narcissistic self-insert, and it killed a game I spent a quarter of a century looking forward to...
One of the great things about the previous Homeworld games is that the fleet was comprised of consummate military professionals. Their competence gave the impression of highly disciplined training and conveyed a sense of gravity for the missions they embarked upon.
Heck, then the Somtaaw, profession miners rather than soldiers, did their best to keep it together in the face of true horror.
... not even 30 seconds for you to completely FAIL at your job. impressive arch.
No. While the creature may have ruined the story of H3, the GAMEPLAY was ENTIRELY ruined by Blackbird themselves. the same blackbird who made homeworld 2 many years ago and FAILED to deliver on the gameplay of the original or Cataclysm and turned it all into a hitscan RNG fest. The same blackbird who in their infinite incompetence when trying to remaster the games LOST THE CODE TO HOMEWORLD 1 (or more accurately were too incompetent to understand it) and decided "screw it. who need physics accurate simulated projectile mechanics, directional armor and smart AI, we'll just port it all into the dogshit homeworld 2 engine and nobody will notice!". Except people noticed. And even after YEARS of being badgered about it and making promises to fix this ... they haven't. They've TRIED to coax the engine of 2 to run like the first game but it's STILL an approximation that fails the fundamentals. THE SAME BLACKBIRD INTERACTIVE who despite getting money from gearbox went to fig to start a crowdfunding campaign to fund this game. And then proceed to deliver on precisely ZERO of the promises in their backer campaign for features that will be part of H3.
"But le evil publisher bullied poor developer and evil wahman interfered!" yeah no. Blackbird are and ALWAYS HAVE BEEN incompetent custodians of this franchise who have AT BEST managed to deliver an approximation of what made the first game good. It's why if you want to play PROPER homeworld, sure you can buy the remaster BUT THEN YOU BOOT UP H1 CLASSIC TO DO IT! The Diversity writer absolutely trashed the story. But let's not absolve blackbird of their REPEATED AND HISTORICALY PROVEN incompetence when it comes to making a HOMEWORLD GAME THAT PLAYS LIKE A HOMEWORLD GAME!
Ah, righteous anger. Good to see some genuine emotion in this age of fakery.
A mention of projectile simulation, and the not-even-trying remaster? Now this is someone who actually played the original. The only point I disagree with is calling HW2 hitscan, which is far too generous. Having looked at the ship stats in both engines, I was shocked to find accuracy values hardcoded into HW2 ships. The projectiles aren't even doing a hitscan, they're just a flashy visual effect for each time the game makes a dice roll.
Wow.
@@DZ-X3really? Damn
For anyone who wants the closest approximation to what this gameplay SHOULD have been like, get the Complex Mod for Homeworld 2.
Every….Fucking..TIME!. Why can’t they just focus on making a good game? Just make a good game first and let things come naturally?
Because they have no interest in you liking their game. Their goal is to have THEIR game change YOUR mind.
@@NeoN-PeoN Oh its changed my mind in to despising everything they push.
Because it's not about making a good game or entertaining you. It's all about The Message the wokies want to push. It's all about power; simple and vulgar in its purity.
@@CptMarkka Makes you wish for the 90's Christians.
The Purpose of Propaganda is not to change ones mind, but Humiliation
The beginning of the first Homeworld was perfect.
and that music... oh wow
@@zmkarakas gave me chills. I can't remember the name of the piece, but I had it in my .MP3s for years.
@@postmodernmining Adagio for strings ;) my favourite from the soundtrack in general is "Imperial battle music"
@@zmkarakas If I could, I would buy you many beers. I have It playing right now. Amazing how they can convey such depth in music.
SBI was detected again
I was sad to see this added to the DEI detected list but I knew what it would mean for the story. It is time to take a hard line, no money for anything infected with DEI.
Classic woke takeover, we mourn the death of another beloved franchise
I feel for the devs, imagine putting your heart and soul into a game just to have DEI writers come in and crap all over it. In their place I'd stop caring and just work for the paycheck
Or secretly work on a second better story and release that.
@@musicninja98 on whose budget?
No, The functionality of the game was already trash.
Then live-service, battlepass, quick-fast-dumb rouglike. Need I continue?
If there were ZERO' DIE then the game would still have failed.
Waited 20 years just to get The Last Jedi treatment, you would think the homeworld series would have gone under radar of woke/DEI people but nope here we are now.
They are running out of the big name stuff.
Now they are coming for the more niche and less known things.
The problems of this game have nothing to do with 'wokeness' or 'dei'. Baldurs gate had a more diverse cast than this game and had explicit lgbt representation, yet that game was great. Stop falling for right wing propaganda.
what in the fuck are those cutscenes... why didn't they stick with the black and white moving pictures of the remasters or at least the bizarre painted/live action look from Deserts of Kharak
They actuallu had to hire real talent, as this is a dying art in video games. With what seems to be 180 in the story, deep into the development. Its easier to CGI cutscenes as they can be altered until the game ships.
Prepear for the same to come out of Space Marine 2.
Yea I'm holding off on buying that until I see how much damage the activist has done to it.
It's funny how extremely bad games based on existent IP almost ALWAYS coincide with DEI these days.
The interesting part is how DEI don't just impact the story or aesthetics as one may expect, but somehow manage to also ruin the gameplay and often even the quality of the coding itself, this is often due to the fact that once a company goes full on DEI, they tend to trade skilled and talented developers for low skill an untalented diversity hires, or just as untalented people with the "right politic".
Of all the games that have been infected, this one truly hurt. but as soon as I watched your stream and saw that mountain carving chin they gave to the overly emotional main character all I could do was laugh and laugh.
*give comferting hug*
It doesn't even make sense that they still use this whole "human connected to the machine" thing.
The Hiigarans trapped on Kharak invented this technology because they did not know how else to get the computing power together in such a short time.
Yet in later games we see more and bigger ships and structures that have never mentioned having a capsuleer inside there somewhere. It makes no sense.
This was a makeshift provisional technology with no wider necessity past the first game.
This is yet another game that makes me more and more thankful for the miracle that is Armored Core 6. And FromSoft in general. Like Homeworld 3, AC6 was also continuation of a beloved series that had been dead for ten years. But, unlike Homeworld, they actually did it RIGHT. They kept enough of the old stuff that it was still easily recognizable as part of the same series. But they also added plenty of new stuff that made it a true evolution of the series. It ended up better in many ways, instead of just stagnating, or regressing the formula like so many other series have ended up doing.
Its actually impressive just how many games fail to do something that obvious. It takes a special kind of person to fail this consistently.
FromSoft are just Built Different.
@@MachineMan-mj4gj It's called being a Japanese company lol. Although some of them are slowly being infected too.
I don’t think it’s inappropriate to blame a single person when their title is director. They are not a minor force in how the game turns out.
It's almost as if Physiognomy has become an actual science...
Let me guess the writer is a robo in d1sguise?
Haven't trusted Gearbox Since Aliens: Colonial Marine, it's a policy I have seen little reason to revisit over the years and things like this just reinforce. Only one question needs to be asked now, how greasy is Randy Pitchford?
What mostly screams woke to me is not that much talked about. It's the same concept of killing the past. Remember how new Jedi trilogy killed Han and made all beloved characters of old completely useless weak idiots? Now look at Karan here - useless old thing that needs help to finish the task and does nothing for the whole game. She doesn't even kill the enemy that threatens her species in the end and that killed hundreds of thousands of Hiigarans. She holds hands with that enemy, says to our new powerful female that she did everything right and lets her take the place as a new beacon of hope.
Plus stupid proverbs and themes that do not match. "Noone will put Hiigarans in chains", that Intel is so fond of saying? Who did, when? Exiling/genociding is not similar to enslavement. Is it Isaac Paktu speaking or some writer that sees that he's black and wants to add more political shit in game?
That last most cringe proverb that Karan started and Imogen finished in the last mission - "to be Hiigaran is to never be alone". I guess it's a known proverb that Hiigaran are known for? I wonder what would writers say about Heresy wars, Gaalsien and stuff, or about constant bickering between Kiithid. Somtaaw were never alone after HW1 and before the Beast Wars, sure, everyone wanted to hang around them and help them, uh-huh.
Speaking of Gaalsien - why the hell Isaac would even mention them? It's 200 years at least since they went extinct. It's like blaming these French people that walked with Napoleon for something in the current day and age. Vaygr should be more close to reference some bad guys.
Ah, another thing. Why the hell would the terms Bound/Unbound be used? It was used by Bentusi very-very sparingly and these block are gone.
I'm just so angry and sad that this is what we get as a numbered series entry after all these years.
The Incarnate presents the issue of hiveminds but with a new issue that the leader herself is stupid.
Usually a hivemind is either ruthless or hyperintelligent, making them a force to be reckoned with until the hivemind's flaw opens a weakness.
With the Beast War, Kiith Somtaaw managed to adapt, gathering enough experience and tech to create ships that could resist infection yet hit hard. While the Beast was stagnant.
Yet here, the Incarnate Queen seriously believes an unbound would surrender their free will. When becoming unbound is the freest a will can get.
I already got a few warnings discussing this topic on the steam forms
Kind of warnings?
That is to be expected.
They trying to silence critics.
Be sure to fight every ban you get.
Steam seems to still mostly be reasonable.
Mostly.
@@malaficus Because Valve knows it has a good thing going for it with steam. And they've seen enough woke games fail now to know that if they try and mandate games on their platform have that sh*t included it'll be the end of steam practically overnight.
At what point can you say that these people should be sued for sabotage genuinely asking as this is costing people their jobs.
I backed Homeworld 3 on Fig in 2019, which was before anyone would see how Blackbird Interactive (under Focus Entertainment at the time) would also throw out everything Hardspace about "Hardspace: Shipbreaker" to instead just present another cookie cutter message about 'muh late-stage capitalism'.
Even Deserts of Kharak, a very different spin off with a much smaller scale story, was all in all a decent game that i definitely enjoyed.
The cutsences in that were really great with fantastic style.
@@misanthropicattackhelicopt4148 Right, and the prominent female lead was actually kinda nice.
DoK was a good game. Nothing amazing but it did feel like homeworld. Gave me some hope they could pull this off.
This was the first game in 12 years I got excited for, then they revealed that it would have Denuvo(I wont even be considering buying a game until that's gone). Then I heard how awful the story is and saw a couple of the cutscenes and noticed that it seemed like a character drama, which isn't Homeworld. Seems like my "Never preorder" rule served me well yet again.
You managed to go through the whole campaign in one sitting? I've tried with 1 and 2 and never been able to even when I was young, how short is it?
And then the whole mothership rose up to clap.
Imogen being thought as crazy would have been so much better. The premise being that the mental state of the navigator responsible for the lives of the entire fleet is called into question. How is that not interesting?!
WHO is hiring people like this?
World Health Organisation...among others
One of the things that I thought was weird about the run-up to game release was how they were touting "English-language lip synching", and I thought to myself "When do you ever see anyone actually talking in a Homeworld game for that to be necessary?"
The power of the narcissist to destroy everything is on full display.
The main character looks like her.
At this point it should be a law that anyone diagnosed with one or multiple cluster B personality disorders as outlined by the DSM-5 should be utterly forbidden from holding any position of power or infuence, public or private. They are too f**king dangerous to be allowed any control over society.
I had a bad feeling about it when you could just kinda pick random faction symbols to slap onto your ship. I’ll admit my home world knowledge is rudimentary (and I only saw this in the trailer), so they might have all just been kith symbols, but I don’t think that a lot of the factions would have a similar enough story to where they’d be effectively interchangeable
She was the equivalent of the soviet political officer that would police the toughts of the actual "crew of the ship"
It had been on my wishlist until DEI was detected
....they made a homeworld 3? I still play 1 & 2 and didn't even know it existed. Looks lame.
It is like dawn of war 3 and tiberian wars.
A betrayel.
@@malaficus Tiberium Twilight.
Play Homeworld: Cataclysm. It's good.
We just cant have ANYTHING normal these days do we ?
They just have to ruin it with addition of this brainrot :(
They want us to feel powerless.
I got baited with nostalgia into BG3 and learned to never preorder. I am no longer giving my money to studios who hates me.
Funny, I played the old Baldur's Gate and Neverwinter Nights games and I thought BG3 was fantastic. If you're talking about the bear thing, yeah that's gross, but it also never came up as I considered Halsin to be grody anyway.
While BG3 isn't like its predecessor (it's more like Divinity Original Sin 2.5 to me), it's a great game and it hardly hates you
@@Archris17 Yea I mean it's wierd to have implemented it, but on the other hand reducing Baldur's Gate 3 to that interaction...
@PEC0TTO the studio's staff have made multiple posts on Twitter about how they despise their fanbase and white men and that they LOATHE having to make games that "cater" to them....
@@DeathSithe92 Would you say that Baldur's Gate 3 doesn't cater to white men ?
Really glad i held off picking this one up.
Nobody should be buying any games before trusted reviews hit.
"incarnate queen" that's a woman ? -treelover88