The Zim guy living in London and comparing SA as "not as bad if compared to other African countries" is exactly what is wrong with leadership in Africa. We measure ourselves as "the best of the worst" instead of "the best of the best". Forget South Africa. Africa as continent is in crisis because of leadership failure, rampant corruption and probably the most important, inadequate education. Keeping the majority population "dumb" is the playbook for all of Africa. Thus governments avoiding being challenged intellectually. As for SA, the ANC has done a great job at liberating the country but since the Zuma years, it has shown itself ineffective in running the country and growing the economy. As an ex ANC voter, it pains me to say this, BUT its time for them to GO
*30 years of what exactly ? We are going hungry we have mo electricity no water no health care no jobs tax is sky high petrol and food prizes is greatly sky high we have 42% people without jobs (How can any one celebrate this democracy) its a insult to SA people*
The AnC. Did a great job at first the economy grow in the early 2000s. They served their purpose of ending apartheid, it is time for a new party to take over.
I'm an 82 year old white South African, so I have seen it all here. I probably won't live much longer... Basically, the ANC has not succeeded in any way at all. They went into politics to make money, personally, not to help their fellow black people. They give themselves HUGE salaries, live in mansions, fly around the world and make friends with leaders of Muslim countries and very rarely appear in public. They would happily give our wonderful country with all it's rich minerals to the highest bidder! Their religion is GREED.
Anc corrupt government MUST confess they have failed the nation of south africa and they must step aside and give the government to the true citizens who want to move the country forward with equality for all.
apartheid government ruled SA for more than 30 years , yet you expect ANC to pull miracle out of their arse is naive if the ANC was in power since the 1900 than you can speak
@@Qhawe_Jameson. Hi if I may The border was set up by the different countries and governments, isn't that the reason one needs passports and visas,s the borders will always,s be part of every country,s defense
within a minute of listening to this, a young Russian tourist popped into our local museum. He asked where i was originally from and when I told him "Durban" he said "Oh that place was so dirty I just drove straight out of it. And this is supposed to be a tourist attraction?
In other words the Zim guy from London confirmed Black South Africans are actually ftom Zim.The land of South Africa belongs rightfully to the Khoi and San or the now known as the FIRST NATION COLOURED People.
@@bluecouchpodcast24 Well why don't u ask the Zim guy who seems to say he knows more and why ur vile language ,the land of the Soufh belonged solely at one stage to thr Khoi and San ,the coloured peoples are First nation of South Africa.
After Zimbabwe, Mozambique were liberated we South African never run or flooded their countries fearing hunger or our ruthless or our repressive rulers.
We as south africans are starting to be over whelmed by Zimbabweans who seem to know it all when it comes to south africa meanwhile mnangagwa has long veered of course.once a party stays in power for too long it automatically destruct itself(ZANU PF,ANC)
Yes mostly definitely, no one is honest besides Mbeki after , 26:15 , Mbeki everyone looting in the Anc especially Zuma stole millions open so many bank accounts in different countries as well as Ramaphosa got bank accounts in other countries when investigation takes place Ramaphosa knows his house farms in other countries is doing well businesses / What are South African's expectations after the 29th Ramaphosa will be a Thrillions and Paul Mashatile, please someone assist me in this regard, to acknowledge Anc changed for the best interest of South African's especially the poorest of the poor ,well as we all know hence the families have a very good specialist to attend to the family, while clinic shut down, and hospitals, no schools with good academic education ........ .
Minorities are not respected by majority of the African black population or by the govr. We are left to our own. It's a disgraceful society we live in.
Good afternoon I wish to say yes the land issue is as such 1the government has millions of areas of land undeveloped with no bore holes or structures so nobody is interested in that land 2 developed land pre 95 developed by the white farmers invested millions of rand buying or inherited the land invested money and labor to be able to farm this land with provide a lot of jobs for people This is the land with the people is interested in (DEVELOPED)land. also, look at what happened to Zimbabwe the land was forcefully taken away from white farmers and it is poor with no food money and that's the reason why they overrun SA. The ANC caused a lot of problems for SA and it will take years to correct the wrongdoing and CORRUPTION by the ANC government, not the people
Good Bye ANC. You have failed the youth. This is the culture of Zulu and Xhlosa elders. They think the young guys know nothing. But our chilrdren are wiser.
We give thanks and praises to the ANC for liberating us but it's time for them to step down and start thinking about something to do for us and not opening the country's borders...
From around middle 80s Durban coloureds have been emigrating to Australia . Artisans , nurses and teachers . I'd estimate approximately ten thousand plus . The sadly ignored people who live in the shadows of the black and white .
South Africans was liberated with empty hands and majority of the population was aneducated so that is a great enderance to achieving real progress that some people think it would be better if they had stayed under the Apartied regime but it not the colonial groups withould the financial resources and areable land which caused grevious confusion amongst the liberated because the whites colonial masters plans the government installed to failed they takes all the money which is really cruel after enslaved the people for so many decades there are countries that hoist the monies that the colonial masters stashed away and pretend to endorse the liberation of the enslaved but waiting to celebrate their failures
No the greedy comrades pushed aside the minority groups . They chose to go it alone . Mbeki alienated the minorities with he's pan African agenda . Now they have no one to blame but themselves alone .
I don't see proper representation on this show. South Africa has dilapidated and become everything Mandela did NOT want it to become. Greed, corruption and cadre deployment is poisonous!
ANC has done so many great things for its people, that greatness came with alot of opportunities who stole from us but ANC has done far better than many anticipated, and it in a process of self-correcting. Let's vote ANC 🗳
ANC did do a lot of good things before like building infrastructure, building houses for the poor, building new hospitals, schools, universities, etc, They kept inflation below n around 8% (inflation; since last 30years only in 2007 was 11%). In all fairness, they have done good things, not to say there were no bad decision and corruption
You are right, vote eff because looking at your handle you are the same - just makers of noise Wake up, the eff will destroy what's left of our country
for what... to be worse off than now? That man has no idea what it takes to run a successful country. He idolizes venezuela, china, russia at the times of their greatest communist/socialist peaks. He has no understanding of economics, current world politics or even future trends.
Anc corrupt government MUST confess they have failed the nation of south africa and they must step aside and give the government to the true citizens who want to move the country forward with equality for all.
The Zim guy living in London and comparing SA as "not as bad if compared to other African countries" is exactly what is wrong with leadership in Africa. We measure ourselves as "the best of the worst" instead of "the best of the best". Forget South Africa. Africa as continent is in crisis because of leadership failure, rampant corruption and probably the most important, inadequate education. Keeping the majority population "dumb" is the playbook for all of Africa. Thus governments avoiding being challenged intellectually.
As for SA, the ANC has done a great job at liberating the country but since the Zuma years, it has shown itself ineffective in running the country and growing the economy. As an ex ANC voter, it pains me to say this, BUT its time for them to GO
I agree 💯% That Zim "analyst" is useless, knows nothing about Africa.
That was weird in and of itself. They inherited a completely different situation in comparison to other African countries.
that statistic is shocking: in 1998 it was 21st on the corruption index, today it is 83rd!
thats not your choice anymore, same like putin. you are part of the problem who put these despots in power and the wont leave anymore
South Africans must vote for competent leaders and jail all corrupt leaders.
they won't. the opposition leader is white
*30 years of what exactly ? We are going hungry we have mo electricity no water no health care no jobs tax is sky high petrol and food prizes is greatly sky high we have 42% people without jobs (How can any one celebrate this democracy) its a insult to SA people*
SA people insult themselves by voting in corrupt politicians to lead them. They are to blame for their problems.
The AnC. Did a great job at first the economy grow in the early 2000s. They served their purpose of ending apartheid, it is time for a new party to take over.
Then VOTE for an alternative progressive non-MARXIST party please ❤️🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦
IFP and DA
I'm an 82 year old white South African, so I have seen it all here. I probably won't live much longer...
Basically, the ANC has not succeeded in any way at all. They went into politics to make money, personally, not to help their fellow black people. They give themselves HUGE salaries, live in mansions, fly around the world and make friends with leaders of Muslim countries and very rarely appear in public. They would happily give our wonderful country with all it's rich minerals to the highest bidder! Their religion is GREED.
That's what I say , self enrichment is the name of the game .
Namibia is also facing the same issues like south african since the fall of apartheid.
Anc corrupt government MUST confess they have failed the nation of south africa and they must step aside and give the government to the true citizens who want to move the country forward with equality for all.
30 years of failure, this black government was never ready
apartheid government ruled SA for more than 30 years , yet you expect ANC to pull miracle out of their arse is naive if the ANC was in power since the 1900 than you can speak
Not true borders always been there cause we as soldiers myself included were patrolling the borders at beitbridge please keep to the truth please
Who set up the boarders you patrolled?
@@Qhawe_Jameson. Hi if I may The border was set up by the different countries and governments, isn't that the reason one needs passports and visas,s
the borders will always,s be part of every country,s defense
@paulvorster5876 African borders were carved up by colonial governments not actual Africans.
within a minute of listening to this, a young Russian tourist popped into our local museum. He asked where i was originally from and when I told him "Durban" he said "Oh that place was so dirty I just drove straight out of it. And this is supposed to be a tourist attraction?
In other words the Zim guy from London confirmed Black South Africans are actually ftom Zim.The land of South Africa belongs rightfully to the Khoi and San or the now known as the FIRST NATION COLOURED People.
Rubbish
Zim guy knows fokol about our country
@@bluecouchpodcast24 Well why don't u ask the Zim guy who seems to say he knows more and why ur vile language ,the land of the Soufh belonged solely at one stage to thr Khoi and San ,the coloured peoples are First nation of South Africa.
@@BulZASwzi Ur granny se koek
@@BulZASwzi Jou ouma se hol
It was better than now
Your not South Africa. Stop speaking on things you don't know fool
After Zimbabwe, Mozambique were liberated we South African never run or flooded their countries fearing hunger or our ruthless or our repressive rulers.
Everything destroyed.
if you mean white privelege than YES
Do you then agree that 'destroying South Africa' is okay with you?
Vote for Multi-party charter to save South Africa.
Completly faild in 30years
SA. Is a dusbin now.
Corrapt
You are right 💯
What a bunch of people talking gobbledegook…
These guys must carry on playing with themselves…
Freedom in Africa means the elite get richr and the pooor are dying.
See Rhodesia and you will see S.A😂😂
RIP 🪦 to the 60-70,000 mostly innocent white South Africans who have been killed since the 1990s by blacks
We as south africans are starting to be over whelmed by Zimbabweans who seem to know it all when it comes to south africa meanwhile mnangagwa has long veered of course.once a party stays in power for too long it automatically destruct itself(ZANU PF,ANC)
Yes mostly definitely, no one is honest besides Mbeki after , 26:15 , Mbeki everyone looting in the Anc especially Zuma stole millions open so many bank accounts in different countries as well as Ramaphosa got bank accounts in other countries when investigation takes place Ramaphosa knows his house farms in other countries is doing well businesses / What are South African's expectations after the 29th Ramaphosa will be a Thrillions and Paul Mashatile, please someone assist me in this regard, to acknowledge Anc changed for the best interest of South African's especially the poorest of the poor ,well as we all know hence the families have a very good specialist to attend to the family, while clinic shut down, and hospitals, no schools with good academic education ........
.
The main topic is South Africa and it's post apartheid and yet Africa is being dragged into this
How does this make sense
In 30 jaar het SA geval onder hulle genoeg is genoeg hulle moet weg hulle ellende gebring vir SA regtig gatvol vir hulle 😮😮
Where are you from? because all infrastructure nearly 100% was built by apartheid regime
Chaos and corruption . Crime is out of control.
One thing we don't know any freedom so we don't celebrate or bother ourselves about these days they celebrate because they don't include us
Minorities are not respected by majority of the African black population or by the govr. We are left to our own. It's a disgraceful society we live in.
We have gone backwards in 30 years and the decline is all too visible.
The west must understand this is Africa will never compete with western economies never will 😢😢😢😢
Sadly the majority of South Africans are not used to anything better than what they always had so are happy to settle for nothing 😢😢😢😢😢
Time for ANC to vacate office.
After 30 years, something should have been better for the people of SA. There is something that has caused this non progression. ???????
There is a new apartheid its certain members of the ANC who benefits...while the rest of us suffer
Good afternoon I wish to say yes the land issue is as such 1the government has millions of areas of land undeveloped with no bore holes or structures so nobody is interested in that land
2 developed land pre 95 developed by the white farmers invested millions of rand buying or inherited the land invested money and labor to be able to farm this land with provide a lot of jobs for people This is the land with the people is interested in (DEVELOPED)land.
also, look at what happened to Zimbabwe the land was forcefully taken away from white farmers and it is poor with no food money and that's the reason why they overrun SA.
The ANC caused a lot of problems for SA and it will take years to correct the wrongdoing and CORRUPTION by the ANC government, not the people
Good Bye ANC. You have failed the youth. This is the culture of Zulu and Xhlosa elders. They think the young guys know nothing. But our chilrdren are wiser.
Why show the DA???
We give thanks and praises to the ANC for liberating us but it's time for them to step down and start thinking about something to do for us and not opening the country's borders...
This Zimbabwean guy has no idea what he's talking about I mean after all he's in London
This DA guy is not answering the question
He is truly a politician
He's representing his party not South Africa
The only origanils were the khoisan. Not people from middle Africa.
Africa as a whole is in a dire situation, so make that type of comparison is a mark of complacency. ☠️
Mandela was the best, the rest that followd are rotten.
That's because he was mixed race
And once South Africa 🇿🇦 had a chance to become like Australia 🇦🇺, but then the anc happened
Thamsanga, sorry but you not calling a spade a spade, trying to make it seem the picture looks so rosey
Rubbish, get this corrupt useless ANC out in the unemployment lines
Since the 1990s and 2000s more then 250,000 mostly white South Africans have made new home 🏠 in New Zealand 🇳🇿 and Australia 🇦🇺
From around middle 80s Durban coloureds have been emigrating to Australia . Artisans , nurses and teachers . I'd estimate approximately ten thousand plus .
The sadly ignored people who live in the shadows of the black and white .
Oblivious of the real truth.
South Africans was liberated with empty hands and majority of the population was aneducated so that is a great enderance to achieving real progress that some people think it would be better if they had stayed under the Apartied regime but it not the colonial groups withould the financial resources and areable land which caused grevious confusion amongst the liberated because the whites colonial masters plans the government installed to failed they takes all the money which is really cruel after enslaved the people for so many decades there are countries that hoist the monies that the colonial masters stashed away and pretend to endorse the liberation of the enslaved but waiting to celebrate their failures
No the greedy comrades pushed aside the minority groups . They chose to go it alone . Mbeki alienated the minorities with he's pan African agenda .
Now they have no one to blame but themselves alone .
The problem is that the Zim guy is comparing from the worst perspective
Already that puts him out of context and narrative of the subject matter
Any body noticed how they only showed DA. Huh we now know y’all games 😂.
Please remove apartheid, it's long gone, Nelson Mandela was supposed to build more power station in 9 different provinces and minor area's.....
South African is now very Rich after apartheid. Nonsense...
All you hear 30years later is blaming apartheid, colonizers and white people. Its a clown fest 😂😂😂
Well spending less time vacationing at the Hague and spending money on the dumb ICJ case and spend more time trying to keep the lights on might help!
South Africa 🇿🇦 once had a chance to have nuclear ☢️ power and technology and a space program too
Name one city or country in the world ran by blacks that you would honestly want to live in.
Not one is the answer
I don't see proper representation on this show. South Africa has dilapidated and become everything Mandela did NOT want it to become. Greed, corruption and cadre deployment is poisonous!
ANC has done so many great things for its people, that greatness came with alot of opportunities who stole from us but ANC has done far better than many anticipated, and it in a process of self-correcting. Let's vote ANC 🗳
Black propaganda😂
They learned for the best: Boers
This time the country will come right an this time i no all the people will come forward an help build
ANC did do a lot of good things before like building infrastructure, building houses for the poor, building new hospitals, schools, universities, etc,
They kept inflation below n around 8% (inflation; since last 30years only in 2007 was 11%).
In all fairness, they have done good things, not to say there were no bad decision and corruption
The National Party built much more hospitals, schools, infrastructure even for black population than what the ANC has.
STRANLOOPERS, African ????
These speakers have no clue.
Lots of misinformation and bias in this video.
Vote eff malema
You are right, vote eff because looking at your handle you are the same - just makers of noise
Wake up, the eff will destroy what's left of our country
Why?
for what... to be worse off than now? That man has no idea what it takes to run a successful country. He idolizes venezuela, china, russia at the times of their greatest communist/socialist peaks. He has no understanding of economics, current world politics or even future trends.
Malema big gat
Zimbabwean Flip flopper lmga 😂
Anc corrupt government MUST confess they have failed the nation of south africa and they must step aside and give the government to the true citizens who want to move the country forward with equality for all.