I'm loving this straight talk, I prefer this kind of talk than the pretending and fake smiles. Things will progression quickly if we don't sugar coat them
Honest discussion is the only way to progress. Don't waste time w people who speak fakely and with toxic positivity. No progress will ever be achieved with them!
@@Skylightatdusk exactly, I'm a black person and I won't be angry if someone from white or Indian community says they were taught by parents to hate black people, at least they are being honest and we can work forward from there
@@mademade8092 I fully believe you, many claim not to be racist but their actions speak otherwise. Wait till their child dates a black person. In Europe countries are going right wing due to deep core racism
Interracial relationships are rare.. the most common Interracial relationships, are usually middle to upper-class black men, with coloured or Indian women. Or lower to middle-class black women, with middle-class White men. But interracial relationships in South Africa are statistically insignificant. We are still very much segregated.
I don't agree. Because we have grown up in a more integrated society as have our children, interracial relationships are more common than before and based on education and class as opposed to race. Unless my reality in my circles are different but it's the norm.
@@MsMandsa You are over exaggerating Amanda. The norm, really? Where are you from, and what's your socio-economic status if you don't mind? I am from Cape Town, and come from a middle-class background. Regardless of socio-economic status Its not the norm at all, and Cape Town is probably the most liberal place in South Africa. Personally I only date black and coloured women. I will admit though, in all my romantic encounters with white women they were always foreign, mainly from Germany or Austria. Never local, so I am just curious what your background is, and so called social circle. Also ironically majority of my white friends, are also foreign. I find that foreign whites, are far more liberal/non-racist than local whites.
@@liveinwisdom3610 johannesburg and also middle class. I guess we can only talk of our lived experiences. But I hope it gets better with each generation. I am not sure how liberal Cape Town is, I have never lived there. 🤔 I am in the legal profession so I am not sure if that is also why I have been in diverse circles. Maybe it's an exception and not the norm, which is sad.
Sabastian might have been an Indian at home but he was black outside home, he hanged around blacks, played with us in high school, he even speaks fluent Zulu, you couldn't tell he came from a family that discriminates when it comes to race
Wow true. He is not like the Average Indian. Average Indians are so arrogant and feel they are better than the black counterparts. I went to a computer shop where you were allowed to check out specifications because it was a big shop with a show room. Wow the Indians and whites were doing what ever they wanted. But this shop owner told me Africans no touch. We just see how it looks with our eyes and buy or not but we don't touch like the other races. Wow. I was from pharmacy school I Russia where I went through 6 years of racisim. With the people telling me Go home. This is not your land and stop breathing our air. And here I was home. And an Indian was treating me in Africa like the Russians in Russia. I hated Indians from that day. Then 10 years later I was to go to the US. And guess what I got an Indian working at the embassy. And less than a minute he told me to just come back pick my Visa and passport. While the white employees would look to find faults and add more requirements. He treated me better. Now I had to change my mind about Indians all being brainless. So it's mostly situational I guess.
People who live under pressure in their relationships & remain together are among the few who have experienced the rare gem called Love! You can never know whether there is love before what you take to be love (admiration) is put to a test!
"A man shall leave his father and mother and cleave to his wife." This couple is amazing and perfectly suited. Pam is articulate, confident, and unassuming ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤
@@ERSR2024different skin color, black and whites have nothing in common, we should marry our own kind, kerosene and water don’t mix.even the Bible agrees
In appreciation to my parents, a Xhosa woman and a Coloured man, who've been together for over 40 years until my father passed in 2009, we were brought up to respect and embrace people of different races, cultures and backgrounds. Interracial relationships mostly teach tolerance
It must be sad and burdensome to be a child of a mixed relationship though. I feel that one could lose a sense of true identity because it's easy to say I'm black than to say eish... I'm black but my mother is something or vice versa.
@@mkululimbali2206 Only if your identity is solely based on yout race or colour of your skin...it's a beautiful thing to be a product of a mixed relationship and also to have kids by someone of a different race. Our opinions of race need to evolve and grow. Love is beautiful ❤
@@mkululimbali2206 To”loose” identity? So many mixed people have a strong identity and so many not mixed lack an identity. Only prejudice can cause judgements with no ground….
I felt so sad for Enhle's mum. I wish I could give her a hug. Despite losing her son she doesn't blame anyone other than racism. She seemed such a kind sweet soul.
The mother whose son was murdered has a golden heart. She was able to seek a journey of healing away from hate. Unfortunately, this hate, the racism, continues to foster discord, injustice, and widening inequality in SA. Justice needs to be served
I like the fact that she squarely took it to where it all lied, racism. Nothing less, nothing more. Yes of course poverty in fact and in mind played a role in the looting to Kickstart the whole thing.
I lived in South Africa for 5 years as a student and I know what this couple feels. At UNI you could still see segregation. Every race was cautious and would only speak to you or interact with you when they required something. There is still a psychological barrier in areas like Johannesburg and the rural areas. Added to that is the fostering of Pan African ethics in the society as whole which means a black guy dating out of his race is considered a traitor...............
That's true ,during the apartheid era ,if you are white and you associate with a black person or a person of colour or visa versa you were locked up with a immorality case against you ,I saw that happen many times in South End in Port Elizabeth ,and today there is still that cautiousness amongst the races of South Africa and the saddest thing is that this government is worse then the previous government where it comes to apartheid ,no one trusts one another but I know just one thing South Africans are unique and without this government we will unite ,with God as the way will be the time South Africa will mend.
@@ncubentobeko7927 what I meant is infrastructure, the job situation, schooling ,everything was working ,and with this government nothing is working that's what I was referring to ,but the government itself I really do not agreed with their policies they like this government do not care or cared for poor people wether white,black,coloured,or Indian ,what believe is that the governments are chosen by the people wether wealthy or poor so they should be working for the people,but unfortunately all over the world ,governments are just for themselves not the people ,when I see how some people have to live it's heartbreaking knowing South Africa is a very wealthy country and this government does not make the people part of that wealth ,the wealth is shared with other countries ,like lending billions of dollars and giving the money to Cuba and you and I have to struggle to survive with high petrol,electricity, and food prices through that we are actually paying back that loan.
@@tokkieandrews9988 Well said. That exact situation is playing out everywhere as the real enemies are the intl bankers, who control OUR parasite snake govts. Resist all redundant policies.
I’m Palestinian-Bulgarian from a mixed Muslim-Christian family. "Where are you from?" is always a difficult question for me to answer. I’ve never felt fully accepted in either the Bulgarian or Arab community and sometimes I've encountered racism and stereotypes about my background. Being mixed has its challenges, but in recent years I've come to appreciate the beauty of it. I realized that being mixed is one of the main reasons why I get along so well with different people, regardless of how different they are to me, where they come from, how they think and which religion they follow. Being mixed is a true blessing that makes a more well-rounded and tolerant human being.
one trick follow your father blood also respect your mother blood and honor today if your father was a king you will become his successor In arab world or muslim world You will follow your father and you get his inheritance.
@@zakiyamcabdulahi516 follow your mothers blood line. Her DNA will be present 3 generations down the line, however the fathers DNA disappear after 1 generation.
Did you see Heidi Klum and Seal with their children of course people will stare at that spectacle talk about natural selection thats a prime example of it ENJOY the decline.
The thing that separates us the most is cultural differences than race. South Africans are deeply rooted in their culture, even among us Africans, it's often not as easy as ABC to marry another tribe because of cultural differences. Couples from different tribes do talk about their culture and religions, make adjustments here and there to cater for the relationship. I saw in the US, interracial relationships are a thing cause the cultural differences are not extreme. Ours is extreme, from diet, how we dress, just everything. Another thing in South Africa various races have their "own" place, which is dominated by one race. We rarely interact with each other unless at work, stadiums, I won't mention schools cause they're often dominated by a single race/tribe too. But personally I think interracial marriages will crack the hostility we have towards each other, the hate and the race. You'll end up loving the other race due to those cousin's, grandchildren you have with them. So in South Africa the obstacle is religion, culture and the economic background.
You’re talking rubbish. There’s not a single Black person who has struggled to marry outside of their tribe owing to cultural differences. Where do you take the BS you just wrote? In fact, inter tribal marriage is one of the reasons there’s little to no cases of tribal violence in South Africa. It’s a phenomenon unheard of. When the national party established SOWETO and divided the regions according to tribe, it was deliberately to encourage tribal tensions which did not succeed as Black people from differing tribes got along fairly well and intermarried. Don’t import your tribalism into other people’s lives without presenting any factual information. You embarrassed yourself in this comment section with the level of ignorance you put on display.
Racism has its roots in tribalism and this is something that most whites have never heard of. They just know that because they are constantly told that white people are intellectually superior with a greater ability to reason, they must be racists. I'm not sure how pertinent inter tribal relationships are because black me will have multiple partners during their so called marriages. Saying that people will end up loving the other race is laughable. I assume you are in your 20's writing that nonsense. It's the first thing that springs to the surface when things go wrong.
The travesty of apartheid seems to still be ingrained in the fabric of us as South Africans. It is tragic. The best I can do is teach my kids better and to do better. In my own social circles relationships are based on common interests, education as well as class and religion to a certain extent not race. There is a new generation.
Oh Wow ! Thank You to all of you folks at Journeyman Pictures for introducing these amazing couples. What courage and grace. They give us hope. Thank You for shining your light !!! Namaste from very northern New York, USA.
South Africa's little Apartheid cousin Namibia is still deeply racially segregated. Mixed race marriage over here is still extremely rare compared to SA.
What a brutal expression,but it made me laugh 😆 White Namibians are mostly of German descent. I met a few,and their German was perfect,like they were tourists, just flying in from any German city. I found this very unusual. And somehow creepy with their typical boere kakhi shorts,shirts and boots.., Like tanned tourists that have been on a safari - for 200 years 😂
@@sandrineroesch8706I bet none of them can speak any of the local 'native' languages, and yet some probably concider themselves to be proudly Namibian, supposedly
It's always interesting being out in town, as a coloured woman married to a white American. The stares come from everyone - white and black people. We've had a couple of rude encounters but we honestly just ignore it and go about our day.
Honestly half stare out of disappointment: they lacked courage before when not asking someone out who belong to a different race out on a date, and now they see you in a relationship with someone who looks like them and think,"Dang, you're with him that means I could have dated you, man I missed out!"
You must be beautiful being of mixed ethnicity. I always remind people....Let's remember too, that there's only ONE race, the human race. Historical text says differently, but we ought know this isn't true. Just as 'white" is just a made up word, a word created by the Americas first European settlers, a word to denote skin shades, but there's truly no such thing as "white" skin. UNLESS, you are the shade of A4 paper! haha It's a ridiculous word to denote skin shades, bec all continents, even among similar ethnic groups, you will find many varying skin shades, from the palest, to the darkest, pertaining to the specific global region. It's so interesting to think, that white historians & colonizers, did a great job at convincing the world, that anyone who wasn't so called...white, couldn't possibly be of equal human value, or be as smart, hard working or as beautiful, etc;, etc;. It's a very sad world that we live in. Take care and all the best.
Pam and Sid are beautiful and great couple , loved their healthy outlook and journey together and Pam is so so beautiful. Thank You for showing this side of African life. It is difficult to break barriers and people like Sid and Pam are at frontline in this tough journey to break barriers and we as a human race should help them succeed in this journey.
I understand people's wishes for unity but There's no such thing as the "human race", there are many different races on this lovely planet and that is a beautiful thing, why are our differences a bad thing ? Why do we try to side step away from our beautiful differences ? Human life is an incredible experiment, people just can't see the beauty in that, they can't accept reality. As for mixing races it's nobody business who sleeps with who like nobody's.
@@jessicaF61985 Except there is ONE race. The human race. Scientifically humans are a race. Phenotypic differences aren't a race. Humans have just adapted to their respective environments. Surely you know this?
I married to girl from South Africa in US. Her father and brother never talk to me for single time . They rejected me because of my brown skin. Always sent threats to my wife to kill me. They forced her to divorced me. They cut with her all the relationships. I did masters in sociology raised in Pakistan as a Christian. Never thought people can go that extreme level of hate on the basis of your color. My wife mental health get very very bad so I try my everything day night to make things work. No one showed up to help her from her family. One day as mom get sick and she left the US for her to see her. Then they forced her to divorce me . Such a shame. I feel sorry for my wife and her family. How they still lives in the slavery of box thinking. I hope God will forgive them change their worldview.
Kkkkkkkkk do you mean he wanted to preserve the white people for any purpose ? For development of the country ??? That would mean he believed ONLY white people can develope south africa. That would mean a inferiority complex 😂😂😂 I dont believe he believed this
Funny, but true story. I'm 1973 we traveled from New York to what was then known as Rhodesia. I was 8 yrs old. We weren't allowed toil leave the Johannesburg airport. 12 yrs ago my mom said to me "You don't remember you kept switching the lights off in the whites only men's room? The black people who worked their were mortified." That's my memory of apart hate.
I didn’t know that there was tension between Indians and Africans in Phoenix. I hope communities come together and solve this mess because it can infest to a larger scale and that’s not where South Africa 🇿🇦 should be heading.
Hi, this beef between Africans & Indians, I've never heard of this & hope it's all been peacefully resolved, but can I ask are the Indians Indigenous to the area or do you mean expatriates from 🇮🇳?
@@sakabula2357 I heard about the Zuma riots, also there is one riot or the other in kzn and I didn’t know that the Indians there and the Zulus don’t get on well.
@@jahmah519 Indians are not indigenous to Africa. However, the ones in KZN have been there since the Apartheid era and were brought in by the British to work on sugarcane farms.
@@theonly6359 Ime so sorry, please forgive me, I just looked at your comment & not the post, I thought Phoenix in the USA, ime so sorry & know Indians are not Indigenous to Africa, the mindset of some Indians is 1 of woeful greedy intent, some are extremely racist & collateral is their Messiah, but not all are like this & no one should stoop to this pitiful level, this World is here to share but some think its all fair game hook or crook.
I am a white male and was in a relationship with a mixed race black woman. We got many stares and the most derogative remarks were from black people towards her.
I always say - if you want to argue that racism isn't too bad in South Africa anymore then either date or adopt a person of colour... it's definitely eye opening and heart breaking to experience.
When Love comes thru the front door,Hate crawls out the back window and oozes around for awhile,then disappears into the dark all the way down the alleyway! When hatred come thru the front door,it very similar only more tragic.Only in the case of S.africas Cancerous Apartheid crap.Hateful Boere types scurried up towards the north part of Africa for pay dirt. or even Australias desert land down under,perhaps to stir the same formulas thru similar attacks from some innate spiritual-ill,& sub-cultural demonic hatred!
Shell Bells • What do you mean to adopt a person of colour? As if they are stranded stray dogs, right? Why not say adopt a white person? Undermining Africans as usual, your comment shows South Africans as low class with low self esteem waiting for white saviour. Disgusting mind set.
Wow! Honor to the highest altitude for this man. I am astonished at the fact that Sebastian told his mom that he would choose his wife over her even after his mother told him that she would choose him over the family
While I respect Pam and Sid’s opinion, I myself am in an interracial marriage and their view is quite pessimistic. Who cares if people stare? You love each other. Keep your eyes forward and be the change you want to see. You will never be happy or feel “accepted” if you keep waiting for society’s approval. 🤗
I don't think they r waiting for people's approval. I'm sure they r leaving their best lives. They r just highlighting people's response of their union!
Wow Sanele's mother is an embodiment of what it means to be African . She harbors no hate towards African Indians even though they shot her son dead when he was not hurting anyone. I am forever a proud Black African. Others have a history of mistreating us but we don't have a history of ever mistreating anyone
Ngala Hansel, and that's why they come into Africa and still discriminate against us and tell us that "Africans are one leg in the bush and one leg in the home".
Racial discrimination started with the British when they came to South Africa ,they literally pulled up their noses over the mixed marriages between Khoi and Dutch sailors during the building of the trade station (castle) in Cape Town during the early years of the late 1600-1700's this is why the great trek to the interior of South Africa happened.
Really? It didn't start with the VOC and its trafficking of enslaved Asians and Africans into the Cape Colony? The Groot Trek just happened to coincide the emancipation of slaves then? And the Boere Republieke who continued to raid Indigenous settlements for "inboekelinge", didn't officially agree to outlaw slavery until the 1880s? Just the British? As for "Khoi and Dutch sailors" marriages: the children of European men by Khoekhoe women were "Bastaards" for a reason.
@@roncoots3800 so your ancestors came to finish the job? All this of course, as you ignore the intermarriage of the Bantu and the Khoisan communities. Smh.
I lived in Cape Town South Africa in the 2003 and as a Kenyan, seeing interracial couples in Kenya was nothing new, But in S. Africa, this was still relatively unheard of. I remember one incident when I was walking near Green Market Square downtown with my female Australian friend when the door to a beauty shop flew open, and 3 or 4 Black South African girls stood there angrily looking at us. They kinda yelled something at us but we did not understand what they were saying. When I asked some lady walking by what the words meant, I was told the girls were upset to see a black man walking with a white woman!
but fuck, instead of thinking white black yellow or red, if you want to fuck a white woman don't worry if you want a black woman don't worry if you want an asian don't worry live calmly without stress
Some racism especially the one you're talking about of black girls hating on black men being with a white person or another race is secondary and acquired racism from the American movies. In South Africa there's no shortage of black men and also chances are none of those girls would have wanted to date you had you not been with the white girl. So people really need to start to think before they act and not act on impulse as to what they "deem" to be expected of them by the society even when it makes no sense at all.
I am Ethiopian and very PROUD ( I wouldn't change it for anything) and it must be truly annoying living in a society like South Africa where people still can't see pass the colour of someone's skin is more important. GOSH how disgusting.
Double standards and so rich coming from a Tribalist nation like Ethiopian constant in wars in Ethicity stupid people who hate each other.. go fix your broken country
The riot story because of racism between Indian and black communities made me cry… we had the testimony of the mum who lost her 18 years old son but so many other victims because of skin color… it sounds so unreal in my own conception of humanity… we pray God to gather humanity on goodness and good sense
The world has no idea how bad the July unrest was to put it mildly. There still has been no justice for violence against black bodies and you are not even allowed to point it out because you're branded a trouble maker...
When foreigners misbehave in Europe, they say that they should be deported and they make a big fuss. When european/indian foreigners come to Africa and ACTUALLY kill and misbehave, nobody says anything. This is the double standard.
In that case you should feeling sorry for the wrong people,black people also invaded South Africa. Your history book goes just as far as you want it to go! We have been here for almost 400 years so piss off with that shit!
And the other thing is thta this media is brainwashing people to believe certain colour is better,all bullshit,in 100 years there will be no whites left,that wil never happen
Very true. Same can be applied to xenophobia. I've dated outside of my nationality (that is dated other Africans) but in the end opted to settle down with someone from home for no reason except that's just who I fell in love with🤷🏾♀️
I will be honest this might sound harsh but if these people parents didn’t like the fact they had children married to Africans why not go home ? Well and truly they are just not South African by blood but are only citizens same way I’m a British citizen but I’m not British.I just feel like if the parents had such an issue then marrying if u want you son to marry an Indian girl why not go back to your own country you no longer needed to stay .Originally some came to South Africa the same way some came in Kenya to help with some info structures ie building railways etc but after the work was done like in Kenya many Indians in South Africa decided to stay .If you make a decision to make a home in someone else is country then u racist attitudes should be subdued because u had every chance to go home .as well as some came for a better life decided to stay in South African ur in an African country so of course he will marry and African woman ur in Africa if his uncle wanted an Indian woman for him they no longer needed to stay in South Africa they could have gone home to India at anytime same with the whites they could have gone home to the European country they belong to but they chose to stay in South Africa so if you do then u can’t be racist if ur son marries someone who’s country ur an occupant in a l Africa if u was in Korea and you son married a Korean u chose to stay in someone else is country so you can’t be shocked or racist when you son chooses to love a native true blooded South African someone from that country love is love point blank if u wanted to control who he loved they should have gone back to India
I agree. but they cant go back to their place of origin because they wouldn't enjoy the same standard of living and race status they enjoy in Africa particularly South Africa. In India they would be lamenting with hunger and disease in polluted filthy overcrowded rat infested slums with open sewage and being treated as second class citizens due to their caste. However, in Africa they get be middle and upper class business owners and second in the racial hierarchy behind whites. Why would they leave?
Yeah this my issue w/ South African colonizers! The F u in their country for? Making up your own rules and imposing it on the natives! And then stripping them of their own basic rights.
Whenever someone has problems with what they see in the mirror, this is what happens. It's called self-hate; no amount of semantic gymnastics will change that reality.
Paul Zinaka, so true! One needs to have a good look in the mirror. Since leaving SA, I learnt that I needed to love "me". And when I started loving me, 😊.I started loving and excepting everything around me. I AM SO HAPPY THAT I STARTED THIS JOURNEY OF MOVING AND GROWING👍. NOT ONLY PHYSICAL,BUT SPIRITUAL.
There is no problem at all😊, when living in Europe or Scandanvia,as I have been living here abroad!! Once you travel out of your "so called birth country", your brain gets a major shift👍😊. That is what many people should get someday!!
what we today see is the deconstruction of europe europeans are today more into outgroup preferences and following what is promoted , oikophobie one way or another europe will change
Interracial/intercultural love is just two people being genuine about the feelings that they both have for one other, regardless of their ethnicity/race/cultures/nationality. That's all, it's no more complicated then that. Racial and culture assimilation isn't an ideal that is impossible to achieve, it's not even an ideal that's all that difficult. All it requires is mutual respect and an acceptance that the choices that one makes in their own respective life, aren't for you to scrutinise and add judgement, but those choices are purely of their own.
If two cultures are opposed to certain important things , explain how is that possible? If 1 culture say for example believes in scarring children or genital mutilation and another does not . How does that work ?
@@analyticalmindset the beliefs that somebody holds are of their own. Just like religious beliefs, you may hold your own ideations and beliefs on what holds true, but at the end of the day, those every same ideas and beliefs are yours and you have every right to uphold them and apply them in your life, but not the lives of others. All it takes to understand this is you simply respecting the beliefs, thoughts and cultures of others. That's it. This line of thinking is very decisive, like it's impossible for me to fathom that there are other cultures and groups of people that hold beliefs that are different or even contradictory to my own, like when somebody believes there is a God, but another believes there isn't, does it automatically mean that these two individuals are fated to be live-long enemies, no. Just respect others, finished.
I have an African friend married to an Indian. They have been married for 33 years but todate, the Indian mother in law has never spoken to her. She won't even come close to her. 33 years!! My friend and her husband have 3 children. First son is 33, second is 29 third is 26. Indian Father in law sort of accepted but mother inlaw todate tells her son that she still has his traditional clothes for him to marry an Indian woman. It's crazy with these Indian people.
I livid in South End in Port Elizabeth ,I had a friend that dated an Indian man ,these two were very much in love ,till his mother found out about and forced him into a marriage with an Indian girl ,there was so much heartache with these two ,because her parents found out about their relationship and their was so much trouble ,but it did not stop them seeing one another, until her parents decided to relocate to Rhodesia (Zimbabwe) to stop her from seeing him, which he did not take very well ,he drove his car into the harbour and into the water with his two dogs ,and drowned ,his parents was in mourning for days after that,I still say love can happen to anyone even through racial barriers ,the government with their red tape of do's and don'ts brainwashed the parents ,and the parents brainwash their children ,I say governments are in the service chosen by the people,so they should do what is intended for them to do,and leave people to make their own choices ,in who they want to marry and where to live instead of favouring one race and neglecting another .
Dougla is the term in Trinidad 🇹🇹 and Guyana 🇬🇾 for a person of Indian and Black mixture. In Jamaica 🇯🇲, the person is still Indian if the phenotype is predominantly Indian.
@@celticmulato2609 we also call the Indian black mix C**lie Royal. I am from Vere, Clarendon, the sugar belt and we have alot of interracial relationships with Black and Indian folks. More time we drop the C word and call them royal
@@khaltsharivist365 I grew up hearing folks called Indian/black mixed persons, Royal. I don't know the reason. As a previous commenter stated, Chinese/black mixed persons are referred to as Chiney Royal in Jamaica
Really enjoyed the documentary. So sad to hear about the personal story of Sanele and July 2021. It was almost never personalized in the sense that information was provided from a statistical perspective. Beautiful couples as well (cute Reddy children 😍).
Great documentary. In Trinidad and Tobago, mixing different ethnicities or "races" is not unusual. There is a certain degree of racism "under the surface, " so not everyone marries outside of their ethnic ancestry. However, for many people here, it's not such a big deal if you do. My own ancestry includes African, Amerindian, Chinese, and Scottish so my perspective about race and interracial marriages has always drawn on this. God made all of us and I think that people in countries like ours - and South Africa - need to see themselves as citizens first, not as a colour or race. We also need to see others as people who are just people...people who are as unique as we are, unique. Keep up the excellent work in creating these educational documentaries.
Neither in Jamaica. But when other countries come in, India? It's the white man's teachings, which causes divisions, until today indians are also brainwashed (into the cast system). Even religions have been used to brainwash the nations, as protected as the Chinese people are, they too have gotten some.
The Caribbean was deliberately missceginated/mixed up to dilute your connection to Africa so you wouldn't rebel as much. Then they made those mullato the ruling class.
@@candyjamaican 🤣🫣 your emphasis on “ALWAYS” brings similar memories. It’s been a recurring theme of mine. It’s one thing acknowledging all the ethnic groups that help to form who you are but I have never understood why someone will proudly claim the 5-10% European ancestry (which for most part was violently sexually transmitted) & deny/ignore their 80-95% mainly west African heritage. When that person goes to Europe or Asia, all the locals there see is an African not their a cousin or distant one at that. When they go to most parts of Africa, for the most part they are viewed as locals & accepted as brothers and sisters. There is a British celebrity chef with Jamaican parents by the name of Ainsley Harriott. He features in an episode of ‘who do you think you are?’. He says in his family it was passed down in oral tradition with great pride that their maternal great grandma was from India etc. the curators of this lie made up all types of claims based on phenotype to perpetuate the myth. DNA said he is mainly West African with a trace of caucasian (British slave master who most likely forced himself on his maternal African ancestor).
We shouldn't forget that long before the end of Apartheid Interracial marriages have been talking place since South Africa's birth.There was a special classification for these people, "The Coloureds..." and long before Mandela my mother referred to this Group of people as as the Rainbow people of South Africa, the inside Term was sometimes used was "Smarties "
TOTALLY LOVE THIS COUPLE MY WIFE IS ALSO INDIAN AND IM BLACK WOW LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS ASKING ME BUT HOW AND WHY INDIAN? LOL GUESS WHAT I WILL ALWAYS LOVE AND CHERISH MY FAMILY
Honestly black people are very humble people..We allow every one to come in this country then start looking down on us...Africa is where the majority is black people.So why do the other race groups like being in a continent where filled with the people they hate most?.Black people deserve respect and no one should take advantage of our kindness.....
Because it was the next continent to take over but they failed at it. They only managed to secure a little spot on the Southern coast. For everything people try to say about us, we are fvcking resilient, they have never ever stamped us out, and they can't doubt it. Whether its Frederick Douglass, Nelson Mandela, the Haitian revolutionists, or the many independence movement leaders, everytime, we bargained for our own well-being and got off from under their yoke. They better stop playing with us, or once we are done, we will paralyze their posterity with excruciating guilt like we always do. They will all need therapists like they all do now
I hold the view that, it's high time that our education system create a space for white people to learn African languages at school especially in the lower grades.
Colorisim, racism, and classism exist everywhere around the world. Not just South Africa, you should look at Latin America. In Latin America it’s more about colorism, classism, and self-Hate. Their was no hate and racism in Latin America, like that of the US during Jim Crow or Apartheid periods.
@johnnyflores5954 In Europe it is even worse. There’s a lot of hypocrisy. Whites there act like they like Blacks but it doesn’t mean they really do. Visibly ethnic non whites do not get the best job opportunities, nor do they have the same socioeconomic statuses. The majority are poorer and live in working class or sub standard housing. Worse, heaven forbid if they fall foul of the law. They are treated a lot harsher. Yet these voices are the first to scream and shout off the rooftops about how great they have it. There is a mistaken belief ‘oh well it is not as bad as…’ and they kid themselves into believing they are trailblazers and things are improving. Things are going backwards not forwards. Perhaps it is time to be more honest and quit lying and pretending. Being unable to talk openly about this topic is quite sad really
Wow I must say coming from Trinidad having an Indian father and African mother I can relate to this. racism is real but if people just look at the purpose of life they will see that love conquer all hate and they will live and let live
I’ve always been curious about Trinidad and Tobacco interms of how black people of African descendants get along with Indian people, to be honest here in South Africa I find Indians South Africans to be extremely racist
@@lungamadoda6992 it’s the same in Trinidad 🇹🇹 and Guyana 🇬🇾. Indians don’t like blacks but there are some interracial couples between the two groups and the kids who are made from the reunion are called Dougla.
Woww, Respect to Sebastian for loving his wife regardless of family mindset. I am not sure about the rate of South African interracial couples. Some of us we are married with Europeans outside South Africa. My family and his family accepted us with warm hands. I get emotional when my mother in-law in Sweden 🇸🇪 asks How is my mother doing in South Africa
Definitely it creates including. Imagine living alongside your neighbor, but y'all consider eachother as rivals. It makes no sense. Something has to give at some point.
I wish South Africans could move on from the past and celebrate love. I personally am pro interracial because it creates diversity people are bound to fall in love whether the public likes it or not.
What I can say is that humans always form groups,and these become tribes,the repeated habits create culture. It's the ignorance of the habits of the other group that creates competition. Usually economic competition being the most powerful determinant,all other excuses of difference like religion or culture etc are promoted by those who benefit from being at the economic top. It's usually the people at the bottom hating each other, the higher you go the lesser the intolerance within the economic classes. So rich white and black and brown have less race or tribe anxiety. I come from Ghana, we where lucky that our founding father Kwame Nkrumah, recognised the need to mix us socially, so the civil service moved people around to different parts of the country, and the boarding schools did the same for students, so we got to meet people from different tribes and classes early in life and later in life. This created knowledge and tolerance of different behaviours, this has been a great blessing for Ghana. Countries that didn't have this are still grappling with the legacy of divide and rule that was amplified by colonial exploiters. I am confident that time will heal this challenge.
11:40 The mother, when confronted with Sebastian, realises that he does not correspond to her prejudices against Indians! Humans have a big problem: they confuse difference of skin (or religion, place, country etc) with difference of ideas and attitudes. This is either due to laziness, vulgar belief (fear of the black cat), or to the will of politicians to flatter this laziness in order to enlist people by designating others as enemies (parties based on ethniq or religious nationalism ). But in reality, each person has his or her own identity and you have to know the person to know his or her ideas and attitudes, not on the basis of his or her colour, religion or geographical origin: no court will ever allow you to bring a complaint against someone's colour, religion or origin: it's not normal! So why condemn billions of people on this basis alone, as many people do? This is what we should all learn, just as we learn to count or swim. These vital social skills for living in society and in the world are not taught anywhere at all.
As a South African living in America this was hard to watch. Although being black in America is hard, i look forward to a future were equality becomes a reality in South Africa. I love my country and I am hopeful for the future
let me tell you my relationship with the hungerian guy I'm black south African Yoh Yoh Yoh that guy was everything to me😭😭he passed away 2014 I missed him till today I'm still crying 😭😭😭😭
I'm not a racist, but you see that gentleman who claimed to have stopped a war; exactly what the aunty was saying when she said Indians think they are so wiser and arrogant
People should date and marry whoever they want . I'm south africa there are still some people who are against it but that's their own views , they shouldn't push it on other people though . I'm not white and dating a white woman , there nothing anyone can do about it .
@@lnwh4756 People like you don't care. You should know that white people are humans too you know. No matter what race you are, you and any race around are all humans.
I am from South Africa. And mixed,....which they call is coloured! Since leaving South Africa from the year 1996,and now I live and work overseas,I have learnt to appreciate,who I am and see the world in a different perspective😊👍.I think that,when a person leaves or visits another country, they start to view their lives differently,and learn to value who they are,and also value learning and openly accept people for just being human.
As a mixed person who is Nigerian, South African and luso Angolan I love this documentary so much though I noticed that Johannesburg is getting more diverse and interracial
That's good to see. I'm just tired of this racial feud here in SA I believe when people intermarriay it creates diversity and less tension. Just my view.
I wish I could hug the poor mother who lost her son to the violence her grandchild is beautiful you can see the heartache in her eyes god bless her and her family I wish you all health and prosperity stay strong stay safe ❤❤❤❤❤
a documentary about love and relationships but you slip in an incident that was politically sparked. very sinister. stick to the subject of the video because the law has not yet run it's course as to what happened during the unrest. your interviewees have said themselves they lived peacefully for years and then something just shifted overnight. racism was the scapegoat for something else that was going on that time.
I'm a black South African and I'd like to try an interracial relationship with the host of this doccie :) lol I dated outside also and her family called blacks "blackies" or black boys, it was actually terrible..
As a South African myself, I can say that it is true, mix-race relationships are not very common here, but I personally have no problems with them at all. People are people.
I as a white i oppose interacial intercourse, for one simple reason, the offspring will not be white, and they will identifye themselves as black100% like Obama, Lewis Hamilton whose mother are white, but never mentioned as they are ashamed of them. driven to the logic conclusion eventually the white race would be no more.
@@marcellogenesi6390 to be honest most biracial people l know identify more with their white side ,and l don't like interacial relationships as well,but why do you talk about black Vs white relationships when we all know that white and Asian Is now the most popular and also the children don't look white?
@@icetrip2417 You know you are not telling the truth, biracial children cannot possibly identify as white as their skin is not white, there is very little difference if any in skin colour between say a Japanese, or a Chinese or a Pashtoon and a European given that people from the Med are slightly darker than Scandinavians. Blacks are different, they are a different race; we did not make ourselves different nature did. interracial marriages between blacks and whites would be the end of the white race. You may not care about , but I certainly do.
Lmao i am biracial, White German father and Coloured mother,how can i identify as White but my skin colour is Brown? The people will think im a coconut.
INDIA ALSO KNOWN AS EASTERN ETHIOPIA. "It seems certain that classical historians and geographers called the whole region from EGYPT TO INDIA, BOTH COUNTRIES INCLUSIVE BY THE NAME OF ETHIOPIA, and in consequence, they regarded all the dark-skinned and black peoples who... inhabited it as Ethiopians"
There's something off with this video. It just seems so generalised. I hate it when people misrepresent South Africans. Most people in South Africa are good people, who just want to get through their daily lives without drama. I've seen mixed couples and I don't stare, but maybe others do. It's just very generalised. I've been between black men and they didn't try to feel me up. They were actually very well mannered, I was also between white men, who weren't. It's not your skin colour, it's the way you were raised and often the amount of alcohol or drug consumed that make people misbehave, as in every other country. Just saying. 🇿🇦
Elisa, you are also an older woman with a now much calmer outlook on life in general because the competitiveness of dating , building family , veneer of respectability is behind you so it kind of makes sense that you'd perceive things differently. People can want to live their lives peacefully with no drama but do you believe IR hatred can't co-exist along with ? you are dreaming. I am in europe . i have a white dad and a black mom. my white side of the family wrote me off entirely when i was around 4-5 . Really not surprised in SA its all cuckoo for cocoa puffs
@elsa Hoffmann you are spot on and I agree with you 100%: it's all about how you were raised. Unfortunately, a lot of people were not raised to value education, so they may not have furthered their education in psychology; therefore, are not aware of inherited beliefs due to his or her environment, such as the nature verses nurture debate. Furthermore, people are people, so there are those, who most consider to be good because they're not willing to inflict bad intent onto others for personal gain, coexisting in environments with those, who most consider to be bad people willing to inflict bad intent onto others for personal gain. The fact of the matter is all people are incentivized to behave in a certain manner because we are all selfish beings, which is natural. The "good person" generally treats others like she/he wants to be treated. The "bad person" generally treats others how she/he treats him or herself. Some knowingly, some unknowingly are grouped into these categories. The solution is to bring more of an awareness to diverse thinking. By first acknowledging that it is okay to be different! A stick has two sides, yet it is the same stick. One side is opposite of the other, yet it's okay to be on one side of the stick before learning of the opposite. A greater awakening and understanding is experienced by the individual when realizing that there exist an opposite side; thus, the individual feels more entitled to make a distinction between the two side after being exposed to more data. THE KEY IS TO NEVER STOP LEARNING. More data means more of an understanding of what a stick really is, the sticks functionality, the sticks purpose. This is the definition of growth. We all start out as a child growing up in a world of contrast. As children, the only way to really know what we want from what we don't want is by getting experience but experience comes with time. Unfortunately, humans don't have a lot of time to be present on this earth in our physical bodies with other people we love and enjoy the most; therefore, most will view time in an economical sense of lacking time; consequently, out of fear, we may have a tendency to adapt to the environment in which we are raised, on a micro-economical scale, slowly beginning to believe what those around us believed. More over, since parents have the tendency to believe that it is the parents job to teach children what to believe, parents will do their best to indoctrinate the mind of their child/children while in their presence, with respect to time. This cycle can loop for generations until we exit the loop by crossing state borders, then countries borders to meet new people, live in different places around the globe, explore, become open to cultural differences, collect new data, and evolve back into being human beings...
@@PHlophe thank you for this comment. It’s not easy at all, I’m in an IR and in SA it’s so fcken stressful. The white people are so racist towards me as the Black partner etc.
This is a whole beautiful story altogether I wish everyone could be forgiving and loving, am sure even though Enhle's Mum knew who had killed her son she is willing to forgive, this reminds me of one lady in Rwanda that decided to take a young man as a son who was in the group of men that killed her husband in the genocide but only chose to forgive and love him as a son. this is beautiful.....
Interracial relationships are NORMAL... we're used to them so they're okay I mean come on,we live in an age where men can marry other man... I'd say we are the most open-minded generation you'll ever know. It's not as bad as it was back then
Ya know, I have never understood how dutch europeans came to Africa and displaced those who belong there?? I don't understand how that happened in the first place. It's very strange to me.
I'm loving this straight talk, I prefer this kind of talk than the pretending and fake smiles. Things will progression quickly if we don't sugar coat them
Honest discussion is the only way to progress.
Don't waste time w people who speak fakely and with toxic positivity. No progress will ever be achieved with them!
@@Skylightatdusk exactly, I'm a black person and I won't be angry if someone from white or Indian community says they were taught by parents to hate black people, at least they are being honest and we can work forward from there
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A lot them say they don't but still have that confederate flag beliefs. I'm not only talking about Africa.
@@mademade8092 I fully believe you, many claim not to be racist but their actions speak otherwise. Wait till their child dates a black person. In Europe countries are going right wing due to deep core racism
You can still be honest while doing a "fake" smile
“You may think I’ve got dirty blood but as long as my husband cherishes me those words didn’t affect me the way it could have”
This is a Real love!!!
Interracial relationships are rare.. the most common Interracial relationships, are usually middle to upper-class black men, with coloured or Indian women. Or lower to middle-class black women, with middle-class White men. But interracial relationships in South Africa are statistically insignificant. We are still very much segregated.
Extremely so and you continually defending your selves
I don't agree. Because we have grown up in a more integrated society as have our children, interracial relationships are more common than before and based on education and class as opposed to race. Unless my reality in my circles are different but it's the norm.
@@MsMandsa You are over exaggerating Amanda. The norm, really? Where are you from, and what's your socio-economic status if you don't mind? I am from Cape Town, and come from a middle-class background. Regardless of socio-economic status Its not the norm at all, and Cape Town is probably the most liberal place in South Africa.
Personally I only date black and coloured women. I will admit though, in all my romantic encounters with white women they were always foreign, mainly from Germany or Austria. Never local, so I am just curious what your background is, and so called social circle. Also ironically majority of my white friends, are also foreign. I find that foreign whites, are far more liberal/non-racist than local whites.
@@liveinwisdom3610 johannesburg and also middle class. I guess we can only talk of our lived experiences. But I hope it gets better with each generation. I am not sure how liberal Cape Town is, I have never lived there. 🤔 I am in the legal profession so I am not sure if that is also why I have been in diverse circles. Maybe it's an exception and not the norm, which is sad.
Thats for the best
Sabastian might have been an Indian at home but he was black outside home, he hanged around blacks, played with us in high school, he even speaks fluent Zulu,
you couldn't tell he came from a family that discriminates when it comes to race
Oh wow that’s so sweet to hear
Hi Nelly, how are you. Thank you for sharing that. I always try and stay true to myself
Wow true. He is not like the Average Indian. Average Indians are so arrogant and feel they are better than the black counterparts. I went to a computer shop where you were allowed to check out specifications because it was a big shop with a show room. Wow the Indians and whites were doing what ever they wanted. But this shop owner told me Africans no touch. We just see how it looks with our eyes and buy or not but we don't touch like the other races. Wow. I was from pharmacy school I Russia where I went through 6 years of racisim. With the people telling me Go home. This is not your land and stop breathing our air. And here I was home. And an Indian was treating me in Africa like the Russians in Russia. I hated Indians from that day.
Then 10 years later I was to go to the US. And guess what I got an Indian working at the embassy. And less than a minute he told me to just come back pick my Visa and passport. While the white employees would look to find faults and add more requirements. He treated me better.
Now I had to change my mind about Indians all being brainless. So it's mostly situational I guess.
@@rickyreward226 wow
@@sebastianreddy8067 I'm proud of you Man. May the Lord God bless your family
People who live under pressure in their relationships & remain together are among the few who have experienced the rare gem called Love! You can never know whether there is love before what you take to be love (admiration) is put to a test!
"A man shall leave his father and mother and cleave to his wife."
This couple is amazing and perfectly suited.
Pam is articulate, confident, and unassuming
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Deuteronomy 7:3 In-Context
3 Do not intermarry with them. Do not give your daughters to their sons or take their daughters for your sons
@cezz "Do not intermarry" meaning a different belief (on the inside), not a different skin colour (on the outside)
what about the woman ?
His wife , yes. The Bible didn’t say, white wife, blacks and whites have nothing in common, we should marry our own kind.kerosene and water don’t mix
@@ERSR2024different skin color, black and whites have nothing in common, we should marry our own kind, kerosene and water don’t mix.even the Bible agrees
To each his own. Live and let live. Trying to please other people at the expense of your own happiness is a fools errand
In appreciation to my parents, a Xhosa woman and a Coloured man, who've been together for over 40 years until my father passed in 2009, we were brought up to respect and embrace people of different races, cultures and backgrounds. Interracial relationships mostly teach tolerance
It must be sad and burdensome to be a child of a mixed relationship though. I feel that one could lose a sense of true identity because it's easy to say I'm black than to say eish... I'm black but my mother is something or vice versa.
@@mkululimbali2206 Only if your identity is solely based on yout race or colour of your skin...it's a beautiful thing to be a product of a mixed relationship and also to have kids by someone of a different race. Our opinions of race need to evolve and grow. Love is beautiful ❤
Yawn 😴
@@mkululimbali2206 To”loose” identity? So many mixed people have a strong identity and so many not mixed lack an identity. Only prejudice can cause judgements with no ground….
Well good to know
Pam and Sid,wish them nothin bit longevity filled with love and happiness ❤️
I felt so sad for Enhle's mum. I wish I could give her a hug. Despite losing her son she doesn't blame anyone other than racism. She seemed such a kind sweet soul.
She's a hero ❤️
The mother whose son was murdered has a golden heart. She was able to seek a journey of healing away from hate. Unfortunately, this hate, the racism, continues to foster discord, injustice, and widening inequality in SA. Justice needs to be served
facts so true an people aren't trusting enough to change
I like the fact that she squarely took it to where it all lied, racism. Nothing less, nothing more. Yes of course poverty in fact and in mind played a role in the looting to Kickstart the whole thing.
That's the spirit of black people always. The only race that embodies it so well in this country
I lived in South Africa for 5 years as a student and I know what this couple feels. At UNI you could still see segregation. Every race was cautious and would only speak to you or interact with you when they required something. There is still a psychological barrier in areas like Johannesburg and the rural areas. Added to that is the fostering of Pan African ethics in the society as whole which means a black guy dating out of his race is considered a traitor...............
That's true ,during the apartheid era ,if you are white and you associate with a black person or a person of colour or visa versa you were locked up with a immorality case against you ,I saw that happen many times in South End in Port Elizabeth ,and today there is still that cautiousness amongst the races of South Africa and the saddest thing is that this government is worse then the previous government where it comes to apartheid ,no one trusts one another but I know just one thing South Africans are unique and without this government we will unite ,with God as the way will be the time South Africa will mend.
@@tokkieandrews9988 I don't agree with you when you are saying apartheid government was better than the ruling government
@@ncubentobeko7927 what I meant is infrastructure, the job situation, schooling ,everything was working ,and with this government nothing is working that's what I was referring to ,but the government itself I really do not agreed with their policies they like this government do not care or cared for poor people wether white,black,coloured,or Indian ,what believe is that the governments are chosen by the people wether wealthy or poor so they should be working for the people,but unfortunately all over the world ,governments are just for themselves not the people ,when I see how some people have to live it's heartbreaking knowing South Africa is a very wealthy country and this government does not make the people part of that wealth ,the wealth is shared with other countries ,like lending billions of dollars and giving the money to Cuba and you and I have to struggle to survive with high petrol,electricity, and food prices through that we are actually paying back that loan.
He is a traitor.
@@tokkieandrews9988 Well said. That exact situation is playing out everywhere as the real enemies are the intl bankers, who control OUR parasite snake govts.
Resist all redundant policies.
I’m Palestinian-Bulgarian from a mixed Muslim-Christian family. "Where are you from?" is always a difficult question for me to answer. I’ve never felt fully accepted in either the Bulgarian or Arab community and sometimes I've encountered racism and stereotypes about my background. Being mixed has its challenges, but in recent years I've come to appreciate the beauty of it. I realized that being mixed is one of the main reasons why I get along so well with different people, regardless of how different they are to me, where they come from, how they think and which religion they follow. Being mixed is a true blessing that makes a more well-rounded and tolerant human being.
one trick follow your father blood also respect your mother blood and honor today if your father was a king you will become his successor In arab world or muslim world You will follow your father and you get his inheritance.
@@zakiyamcabdulahi516 follow your mothers blood line. Her DNA will be present 3 generations down the line, however the fathers DNA disappear after 1 generation.
I agree❤
@@zakiyamcabdulahi516no a interfaith kid should never be a Muslim it's wrong
You're blessed and thoughtful
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Sebastian and Pam are really a lovely couple and family. Mixed raced families are stared at all over the world. Don’t kid yourself.
I second this!
the dream of Kalergi and Marcuse will be a dream of only one population ...and Sonia ,you do not belong to that population
@@lanosduki3426 Rubbish 🗑️!
That is a hoax beloved of the far right.
Did you see Heidi Klum and Seal with their children of course people will stare at that spectacle talk about natural selection thats a prime example of it ENJOY the decline.
@@georgewilliam1736 What is your point?
Without racism there can be no whyte people.
The thing that separates us the most is cultural differences than race. South Africans are deeply rooted in their culture, even among us Africans, it's often not as easy as ABC to marry another tribe because of cultural differences. Couples from different tribes do talk about their culture and religions, make adjustments here and there to cater for the relationship. I saw in the US, interracial relationships are a thing cause the cultural differences are not extreme. Ours is extreme, from diet, how we dress, just everything.
Another thing in South Africa various races have their "own" place, which is dominated by one race. We rarely interact with each other unless at work, stadiums, I won't mention schools cause they're often dominated by a single race/tribe too.
But personally I think interracial marriages will crack the hostility we have towards each other, the hate and the race. You'll end up loving the other race due to those cousin's, grandchildren you have with them.
So in South Africa the obstacle is religion, culture and the economic background.
You are spot on ... cultural differences a big adjustment in interracial relstionships for both!!
You’re talking rubbish. There’s not a single Black person who has struggled to marry outside of their tribe owing to cultural differences. Where do you take the BS you just wrote? In fact, inter tribal marriage is one of the reasons there’s little to no cases of tribal violence in South Africa. It’s a phenomenon unheard of.
When the national party established SOWETO and divided the regions according to tribe, it was deliberately to encourage tribal tensions which did not succeed as Black people from differing tribes got along fairly well and intermarried. Don’t import your tribalism into other people’s lives without presenting any factual information. You embarrassed yourself in this comment section with the level of ignorance you put on display.
how many laws are there in SA against european people that are only 7% of the population and how many of you did stand against them?
@@m3mn0nYT Replying with insults just shows what's in that brain of yours. You could've left your opinion in the comments section.
Racism has its roots in tribalism and this is something that most whites have never heard of. They just know that because they are constantly told that white people are intellectually superior with a greater ability to reason, they must be racists. I'm not sure how pertinent inter tribal relationships are because black me will have multiple partners during their so called marriages. Saying that people will end up loving the other race is laughable. I assume you are in your 20's writing that nonsense. It's the first thing that springs to the surface when things go wrong.
The travesty of apartheid seems to still be ingrained in the fabric of us as South Africans. It is tragic. The best I can do is teach my kids better and to do better. In my own social circles relationships are based on common interests, education as well as class and religion to a certain extent not race. There is a new generation.
Antiwhite farm murders prove the antihwite hatred
The travesty of the ANC/SA COMMUNIST PARTY/EFF leftist policies is worse you wanted a RESET enjoy the decline.
yes..we see how good the rejection of ingroup preferences is working out for all european populations
Am I correct in thinking your social network is based on what school/church you attend and whether you perceive someone to be rich enough.
do you expect everybody to be mixed race browns in SA in 200 years time like northern brazil??
You haven't even scratched the surface regarding race in South Africa dear... Its a whole MESS!
Tell us - how so?
@@platophilosopher1293 Go outside & observe.. come back and tell us what you saw..
Bullshit. Things are not that bad at all.
@@mattontop2262 POV: The "its not that bad" crew are often privileged & will never see the full context of the situation...
@@duwaynem.467 please explain. I’m not white btw.
Excellent documentary. Seb is such a nice guy, and Pam knows how lucky she is. This is heartwarming.
Oh Wow ! Thank You to all of you folks at Journeyman Pictures for introducing these amazing couples. What courage and grace. They give us hope. Thank You for shining your light !!! Namaste from very northern New York, USA.
South Africa's little Apartheid cousin Namibia is still deeply racially segregated. Mixed race marriage over here is still extremely rare compared to SA.
What a brutal expression,but it made me laugh 😆
White Namibians are mostly of German descent.
I met a few,and their German was perfect,like they were tourists, just flying in from any German city.
I found this very unusual.
And somehow creepy with their typical boere kakhi shorts,shirts and boots..,
Like tanned tourists that have been on a safari - for 200 years 😂
@@sandrineroesch8706I bet none of them can speak any of the local 'native' languages, and yet some probably concider themselves to be proudly Namibian, supposedly
😂😂Namibia ittle Sister of South Africa
@@sandrineroesch8706I live in Namibia and most white people are boere meaning Dutch descent and the Germans are the minority white group.
@@serogolemogole2685 you are spot on.
It's always interesting being out in town, as a coloured woman married to a white American. The stares come from everyone - white and black people. We've had a couple of rude encounters but we honestly just ignore it and go about our day.
Honestly half stare out of disappointment: they lacked courage before when not asking someone out who belong to a different race out on a date, and now they see you in a relationship with someone who looks like them and think,"Dang, you're with him that means I could have dated you, man I missed out!"
You must be beautiful being of mixed ethnicity. I always remind people....Let's remember too, that there's only ONE race, the human race. Historical text says differently, but we ought know this isn't true. Just as 'white" is just a made up word, a word created by the Americas first European settlers, a word to denote skin shades, but there's truly no such thing as "white" skin. UNLESS, you are the shade of A4 paper! haha It's a ridiculous word to denote skin shades, bec all continents, even among similar ethnic groups, you will find many varying skin shades, from the palest, to the darkest, pertaining to the specific global region. It's so interesting to think, that white historians & colonizers, did a great job at convincing the world, that anyone who wasn't so called...white, couldn't possibly be of equal human value, or be as smart, hard working or as beautiful, etc;, etc;. It's a very sad world that we live in. Take care and all the best.
It’s sad that you use the word “coloured”….considered highly offensive in UK!
@@rarayena9639 its not sad, this word has a different history and etymology in South Africa
@@rarayena9639 it's not, South Africa is not the U.K.
Pam and Sid are beautiful and great couple , loved their healthy outlook and journey together and Pam is so so beautiful. Thank You for showing this side of African life. It is difficult to break barriers and people like Sid and Pam are at frontline in this tough journey to break barriers and we as a human race should help them succeed in this journey.
Spittle!
What BEAUTIFUL children!
I understand people's wishes for unity but There's no such thing as the "human race", there are many different races on this lovely planet and that is a beautiful thing, why are our differences a bad thing ? Why do we try to side step away from our beautiful differences ? Human life is an incredible experiment, people just can't see the beauty in that, they can't accept reality. As for mixing races it's nobody business who sleeps with who like nobody's.
@@jessicaF61985 Except there is ONE race. The human race. Scientifically humans are a race. Phenotypic differences aren't a race. Humans have just adapted to their respective environments. Surely you know this?
@@evah787 agree, so cute.
Beautiful documentary...... As a South African I can fully relate to this...... Please continue bringing us educational documentaries
Disgusting people mixing their own heritage out of existence
that country has the highest rape stats in the world
Hey Mangete..howzit?
@@alexcope8142 plz come be part of it Nd enjoy yourself ✌🏽🤷🏽♀️
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Interesting. Makes me think back to the days when my wife and I would have been arrested if we decided to start a family.
God bless you and your family
I married to girl from South Africa in US. Her father and brother never talk to me for single time . They rejected me because of my brown skin. Always sent threats to my wife to kill me. They forced her to divorced me. They cut with her all the relationships. I did masters in sociology raised in Pakistan as a Christian. Never thought people can go that extreme level of hate on the basis of your color.
My wife mental health get very very bad so I try my everything day night to make things work. No one showed up to help her from her family. One day as mom get sick and she left the US for her to see her. Then they forced her to divorce me . Such a shame. I feel sorry for my wife and her family. How they still lives in the slavery of box thinking. I hope God will forgive them change their worldview.
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i pray over your marriage , God will protect and bless you.
Is that still happening in the world
So sorry to hear that, you deserve to be with someone who values You for the person that you are and not by the color of your skin.
Pray and leave it in the hands of the Lord
As long as my husband LOVES ME, THOSE WARDS DO NOT AFFECT ME. I LOVE those words she said. And I she is 100% right!
Nelson Mandela was not fighting for interracial marriages. It was not his vision. He wanted political and economic freedom for Africans.
he ddnt do it alone, all SAns fought for liberation. unfortunately some of them were actually fighting for interracial relationships😀
True
True 👍
Kkkkkkkkk do you mean he wanted to preserve the white people for any purpose ? For development of the country ??? That would mean he believed ONLY white people can develope south africa. That would mean a inferiority complex 😂😂😂 I dont believe he believed this
He only got political freedom @@mfundo1pumla
Funny, but true story. I'm 1973 we traveled from New York to what was then known as Rhodesia. I was 8 yrs old. We weren't allowed toil leave the Johannesburg airport. 12 yrs ago my mom said to me "You don't remember you kept switching the lights off in the whites only men's room? The black people who worked their were mortified." That's my memory of apart hate.
I really enjoyed this documentary, it’s refreshing to hear a honest voice and a view that must be shared.
I didn’t know that there was tension between Indians and Africans in Phoenix. I hope communities come together and solve this mess because it can infest to a larger scale and that’s not where South Africa 🇿🇦 should be heading.
How did you not know?Did you miss the riots?
Hi, this beef between Africans & Indians, I've never heard of this & hope it's all been peacefully resolved, but can I ask are the Indians Indigenous to the area or do you mean expatriates from 🇮🇳?
@@sakabula2357 I heard about the Zuma riots, also there is one riot or the other in kzn and I didn’t know that the Indians there and the Zulus don’t get on well.
@@jahmah519 Indians are not indigenous to Africa. However, the ones in KZN have been there since the Apartheid era and were brought in by the British to work on sugarcane farms.
@@theonly6359 Ime so sorry, please forgive me, I just looked at your comment & not the post, I thought Phoenix in the USA, ime so sorry & know Indians are not Indigenous to Africa, the mindset of some Indians is 1 of woeful greedy intent, some are extremely racist & collateral is their Messiah, but not all are like this & no one should stoop to this pitiful level, this World is here to share but some think its all fair game hook or crook.
I am a white male and was in a relationship with a mixed race black woman. We got many stares and the most derogative remarks were from black people towards her.
What's a "mixed race black" person? A colored?
It you were from the rural parts of the country, the remarks by Whites wouldn't be any nicer.
Urban people tend to be more tolerant.
It's because white people wrecked havoc on black SA for centuries.
@@zaddysenemy2291 WREACKED
Mixed-race black women. What is that? Is she black or mixed-race? Can't be both. This is not America, where people are confused/in denial.
I always say - if you want to argue that racism isn't too bad in South Africa anymore then either date or adopt a person of colour... it's definitely eye opening and heart breaking to experience.
When Love comes thru the front door,Hate crawls out the back window and oozes around for awhile,then disappears into the dark all the way down the alleyway! When hatred come thru the front door,it very similar only more tragic.Only in the case of S.africas Cancerous Apartheid crap.Hateful Boere types scurried up towards the north part of Africa for pay dirt. or even Australias desert land down under,perhaps to stir the same formulas thru similar attacks from some innate spiritual-ill,& sub-cultural demonic hatred!
Racism is Everywhere in SA.
You don't to adopt to see it
Eish...heartbreaking stuff
Shell Bells • What do you mean to adopt a person of colour? As if they are stranded stray dogs, right? Why not say adopt a white person? Undermining Africans as usual, your comment shows South Africans as low class with low self esteem waiting for white saviour. Disgusting mind set.
White Genocide is also pretty heartbreaking. Miscegenation is selfish. It negatively affects everyone.
Wow!
Honor to the highest altitude for this man. I am astonished at the fact that Sebastian told his mom that he would choose his wife over her even after his mother told him that she would choose him over the family
She probably knows that and knew that the only way to have her son in her life was by accepting that Pam was a part of his and later their children's
He supposed to choose the mother of HIS children.
The whites and indians migrated to Africa for a better life and they say 'why are you dating an African ?' . Thats messed up really.
Now I get to understand why Idi Amini chased Indians from Uganda.
While I respect Pam and Sid’s opinion, I myself am in an interracial marriage and their view is quite pessimistic. Who cares if people stare? You love each other. Keep your eyes forward and be the change you want to see. You will never be happy or feel “accepted” if you keep waiting for society’s approval. 🤗
u don't just turn a blind eye to fascist an prejudice takes alot of courage an the the Good lord I swear it will take Generations to fix
I don't think they r waiting for people's approval. I'm sure they r leaving their best lives. They r just highlighting people's response of their union!
What the mom said about indians in the workplace isn't wrong tbh
Bang on the money , fr fr
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You must confront the person.. Don't leave it to fester..communication is vital..people don't know what you are thinking if you don't speak up.
I keep hearing that about them
This is the definition of racism, its like saying all blacks are thugs.
Wow Sanele's mother is an embodiment of what it means to be African . She harbors no hate towards African Indians even though they shot her son dead when he was not hurting anyone. I am forever a proud Black African. Others have a history of mistreating us but we don't have a history of ever mistreating anyone
Ngala Hansel, and that's why they come into Africa and still discriminate against us and tell us that "Africans are one leg in the bush and one leg in the home".
@@sholaaiyetan2968 I tell you o my sister. Na from Naija u from come right?
except mistreating the black folks from zimbabwe etc who come to SA to seek a better life. a few have been murdered recently. maybe you didn't know?
@@ngalahansel6066, yes, I'm from Nigeria. But I'm your brother O, not your sister! lol!
@@kimbozw1808 idiot, you missed the point of this comment
They have the audacity to insult blacks who belong to that land! It never ceases to amaze me the things that some people do and say in this world. 😮😮
The way I love this couple.... Pam and Sebastian ❤️❤️❤️🤞💯🔥.
Racial discrimination started with the British when they came to South Africa ,they literally pulled up their noses over the mixed marriages between Khoi and Dutch sailors during the building of the trade station (castle) in Cape Town during the early years of the late 1600-1700's this is why the great trek to the interior of South Africa happened.
Tookie , bad habits really die hard, frankly
Started with Jan Van Reebek.
Really? It didn't start with the VOC and its trafficking of enslaved Asians and Africans into the Cape Colony? The Groot Trek just happened to coincide the emancipation of slaves then? And the Boere Republieke who continued to raid Indigenous settlements for "inboekelinge", didn't officially agree to outlaw slavery until the 1880s? Just the British?
As for "Khoi and Dutch sailors" marriages: the children of European men by Khoekhoe women were "Bastaards" for a reason.
LOL try telling that to the San and the Khoi, genocided by bantus' for nearly 800 yrs.
@@roncoots3800 so your ancestors came to finish the job? All this of course, as you ignore the intermarriage of the Bantu and the Khoisan communities. Smh.
I lived in Cape Town South Africa in the 2003 and as a Kenyan, seeing interracial couples in Kenya was nothing new, But in S. Africa, this was still relatively unheard of.
I remember one incident when I was walking near Green Market Square downtown with my female Australian friend when the door to a beauty shop flew open, and 3 or 4 Black South African girls stood there angrily looking at us. They kinda yelled something at us but we did not understand what they were saying. When I asked some lady walking by what the words meant, I was told the girls were upset to see a black man walking with a white woman!
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but fuck, instead of thinking white black yellow or red, if you want to fuck a white woman don't worry if you want a black woman don't worry if you want an asian don't worry live calmly without stress
Some racism especially the one you're talking about of black girls hating on black men being with a white person or another race is secondary and acquired racism from the American movies. In South Africa there's no shortage of black men and also chances are none of those girls would have wanted to date you had you not been with the white girl. So people really need to start to think before they act and not act on impulse as to what they "deem" to be expected of them by the society even when it makes no sense at all.
Who wouldn’t be disgusted by such evil.
@@MrBooYa-yd5er you think race is as important today than in your bigot parents days?
I am Ethiopian and very PROUD ( I wouldn't change it for anything) and it must be truly annoying living in a society like South Africa where people still can't see pass the colour of someone's skin is more important. GOSH how disgusting.
Am not Ethiopian but I know people rom ethiopia Just mere boasting nothing to be proud in ethiopia
Double standards and so rich coming from a Tribalist nation like Ethiopian constant in wars in Ethicity stupid people who hate each other.. go fix your broken country
@@Bahre8872 key word "Am not Ethiopian" say no more..
@@WinTW9 I'm Eritrean
We Ethiopians are dealing with our own type of racism and tribalism. So we are not immune to this either
Monicas's energy is strong. It's nice to see people from the same country building families together regardless of their race. That's the way to go.
The riot story because of racism between Indian and black communities made me cry… we had the testimony of the mum who lost her 18 years old son but so many other victims because of skin color… it sounds so unreal in my own conception of humanity… we pray God to gather humanity on goodness and good sense
Honestly, the Phoenix Massacre can never be forgotten.
The world has no idea how bad the July unrest was to put it mildly. There still has been no justice for violence against black bodies and you are not even allowed to point it out because you're branded a trouble maker...
Cultural differences. The skin coloyjust happens to accompanyit incidentally
@@thembisomakatha7800 or forgiven
I feel sorry for the original black South Africans country being invaded by foreign people that have no respect for the local people of that country.
If foreigners do not respect South African they have to be quiked out !
When foreigners misbehave in Europe, they say that they should be deported and they make a big fuss. When european/indian foreigners come to Africa and ACTUALLY kill and misbehave, nobody says anything. This is the double standard.
That is very SELFISH of you to say.
Whites have done that across the world
In that case you should feeling sorry for the wrong people,black people also invaded South Africa.
Your history book goes just as far as you want it to go!
We have been here for almost 400 years so piss off with that shit!
What a powerful documentary! Thank you Journeyman
Just because someone prefers to date their own race doesn't make them racist.
Racism has nothing to do with sexual attraction.
And that is the truth,no one can force you be with a race u dont wana be,saying its racist is just a way of forcing people
And the other thing is thta this media is brainwashing people to believe certain colour is better,all bullshit,in 100 years there will be no whites left,that wil never happen
@spiderman-jv8weyou don't know their reasons.
Very true. Same can be applied to xenophobia. I've dated outside of my nationality (that is dated other Africans) but in the end opted to settle down with someone from home for no reason except that's just who I fell in love with🤷🏾♀️
racial preference has nothing to do with sexual attraction
I will be honest this might sound harsh but if these people parents didn’t like the fact they had children married to Africans why not go home ? Well and truly they are just not South African by blood but are only citizens same way I’m a British citizen but I’m not British.I just feel like if the parents had such an issue then marrying if u want you son to marry an Indian girl why not go back to your own country you no longer needed to stay .Originally some came to South Africa the same way some came in Kenya to help with some info structures ie building railways etc but after the work was done like in Kenya many Indians in South Africa decided to stay .If you make a decision to make a home in someone else is country then u racist attitudes should be subdued because u had every chance to go home .as well as some came for a better life decided to stay in South African ur in an African country so of course he will marry and African woman ur in Africa if his uncle wanted an Indian woman for him they no longer needed to stay in South Africa they could have gone home to India at anytime same with the whites they could have gone home to the European country they belong to but they chose to stay in South Africa so if you do then u can’t be racist if ur son marries someone who’s country ur an occupant in a l Africa if u was in Korea and you son married a Korean u chose to stay in someone else is country so you can’t be shocked or racist when you son chooses to love a native true blooded South African someone from that country love is love point blank if u wanted to control who he loved they should have gone back to India
I agree. but they cant go back to their place of origin because they wouldn't enjoy the same standard of living and race status they enjoy in Africa particularly South Africa. In India they would be lamenting with hunger and disease in polluted filthy overcrowded rat infested slums with open sewage and being treated as second class citizens due to their caste. However, in Africa they get be middle and upper class business owners and second in the racial hierarchy behind whites. Why would they leave?
Exactly,they go back
Yeah this my issue w/ South African colonizers! The F u in their country for? Making up your own rules and imposing it on the natives! And then stripping them of their own basic rights.
The nerve of these people! If you don’t like Africans, why don’t youmove back to India or Europe?! WTF
Whenever someone has problems with what they see in the mirror, this is what happens. It's called self-hate; no amount of semantic gymnastics will change that reality.
Paul Zinaka, so true! One needs to have a good look in the mirror. Since leaving SA, I learnt that I needed to love "me". And when I started loving me, 😊.I started loving and excepting everything around me. I AM SO HAPPY THAT I STARTED THIS JOURNEY OF MOVING AND GROWING👍. NOT ONLY PHYSICAL,BUT SPIRITUAL.
Pam seems like a lovely person. The heart and mind are the most important body parts 💯 ❤❤
Here in europe its no problem at all, you see a lot of different nationalities and colours being couples.
There is no problem at all😊, when living in Europe or Scandanvia,as I have been living here abroad!! Once you travel out of your "so called birth country", your brain gets a major shift👍😊. That is what many people should get someday!!
what we today see is the deconstruction of europe
europeans are today more into outgroup preferences and following what is promoted , oikophobie
one way or another europe will change
Extinction is real the world will lose its beautiful diversity
UK is different.
London just pretends to be easy going.
Europeans are breeding themselves out and they don’t even realize it
I have also loved interracial marriages... I love what I just watched!!!
Interracial/intercultural love is just two people being genuine about the feelings that they both have for one other, regardless of their ethnicity/race/cultures/nationality. That's all, it's no more complicated then that.
Racial and culture assimilation isn't an ideal that is impossible to achieve, it's not even an ideal that's all that difficult. All it requires is mutual respect and an acceptance that the choices that one makes in their own respective life, aren't for you to scrutinise and add judgement, but those choices are purely of their own.
If two cultures are opposed to certain important things , explain how is that possible? If 1 culture say for example believes in scarring children or genital mutilation and another does not . How does that work ?
@@analyticalmindset the beliefs that somebody holds are of their own. Just like religious beliefs, you may hold your own ideations and beliefs on what holds true, but at the end of the day, those every same ideas and beliefs are yours and you have every right to uphold them and apply them in your life, but not the lives of others.
All it takes to understand this is you simply respecting the beliefs, thoughts and cultures of others. That's it.
This line of thinking is very decisive, like it's impossible for me to fathom that there are other cultures and groups of people that hold beliefs that are different or even contradictory to my own, like when somebody believes there is a God, but another believes there isn't, does it automatically mean that these two individuals are fated to be live-long enemies, no. Just respect others, finished.
@@vumu9886 those beliefs you are talking about is called culture. And yes there are tons of people who value culture
I have an African friend married to an Indian. They have been married for 33 years but todate, the Indian mother in law has never spoken to her. She won't even come close to her. 33 years!! My friend and her husband have 3 children. First son is 33, second is 29 third is 26. Indian Father in law sort of accepted but mother inlaw todate tells her son that she still has his traditional clothes for him to marry an Indian woman. It's crazy with these Indian people.
Indian mother she's right not crazy.
@@sphelelendlovu8874 Uyahlanya wena
Old ppl stuck in a time cultural prison
I livid in South End in Port Elizabeth ,I had a friend that dated an Indian man ,these two were very much in love ,till his mother found out about and forced him into a marriage with an Indian girl ,there was so much heartache with these two ,because her parents found out about their relationship and their was so much trouble ,but it did not stop them seeing one another, until her parents decided to relocate to Rhodesia (Zimbabwe) to stop her from seeing him, which he did not take very well ,he drove his car into the harbour and into the water with his two dogs ,and drowned ,his parents was in mourning for days after that,I still say love can happen to anyone even through racial barriers ,the government with their red tape of do's and don'ts brainwashed the parents ,and the parents brainwash their children ,I say governments are in the service chosen by the people,so they should do what is intended for them to do,and leave people to make their own choices ,in who they want to marry and where to live instead of favouring one race and neglecting another .
Wow that’s very heartbreaking
that's culture we all have it I guess. not all of it is racist
Dougla is the term in Trinidad 🇹🇹 and Guyana 🇬🇾 for a person of Indian and Black mixture. In Jamaica 🇯🇲, the person is still Indian if the phenotype is predominantly Indian.
We fall them royal
@@codew2467 Chiney Royal. A full Black person and Chinese person.
@@celticmulato2609 we also call the Indian black mix C**lie Royal. I am from Vere, Clarendon, the sugar belt and we have alot of interracial relationships with Black and Indian folks. More time we drop the C word and call them royal
@@codew2467 you call them Royal? Why?
@@khaltsharivist365 I grew up hearing folks called Indian/black mixed persons, Royal. I don't know the reason. As a previous commenter stated, Chinese/black mixed persons are referred to as Chiney Royal in Jamaica
Really enjoyed the documentary. So sad to hear about the personal story of Sanele and July 2021. It was almost never personalized in the sense that information was provided from a statistical perspective. Beautiful couples as well (cute Reddy children 😍).
I hope we cab be friends
Am from Tanzania
I'm Zulu by tribe & from Durban, but I don't think I can have Indian or white girl friend not in a million years
Its up to you. Thats the beauty of democracy, you have a choice.
Great documentary.
In Trinidad and Tobago, mixing different ethnicities or "races" is not unusual. There is a certain degree of racism "under the surface, " so not everyone marries outside of their ethnic ancestry. However, for many people here, it's not such a big deal if you do. My own ancestry includes African, Amerindian, Chinese, and Scottish so my perspective about race and interracial marriages has always drawn on this. God made all of us and I think that people in countries like ours - and South Africa - need to see themselves as citizens first, not as a colour or race. We also need to see others as people who are just people...people who are as unique as we are, unique.
Keep up the excellent work in creating these educational documentaries.
Neither in Jamaica. But when other countries come in, India? It's the white man's teachings, which causes divisions, until today indians are also brainwashed (into the cast system). Even religions have been used to brainwash the nations, as protected as the Chinese people are, they too have gotten some.
I met a Trini and she would ALWAYS mention that her grandmother was ‘chiney’. ALWAYS. 😂
The Caribbean was deliberately missceginated/mixed up to dilute your connection to Africa so you wouldn't rebel as much.
Then they made those mullato the ruling class.
You spoke the truth I agree with you 😍
@@candyjamaican 🤣🫣 your emphasis on “ALWAYS” brings similar memories. It’s been a recurring theme of mine. It’s one thing acknowledging all the ethnic groups that help to form who you are but I have never understood why someone will proudly claim the 5-10% European ancestry (which for most part was violently sexually transmitted) & deny/ignore their 80-95% mainly west African heritage. When that person goes to Europe or Asia, all the locals there see is an African not their a cousin or distant one at that. When they go to most parts of Africa, for the most part they are viewed as locals & accepted as brothers and sisters.
There is a British celebrity chef with Jamaican parents by the name of Ainsley Harriott. He features in an episode of ‘who do you think you are?’. He says in his family it was passed down in oral tradition with great pride that their maternal great grandma was from India etc. the curators of this lie made up all types of claims based on phenotype to perpetuate the myth. DNA said he is mainly West African with a trace of caucasian (British slave master who most likely forced himself on his maternal African ancestor).
We shouldn't forget that long before the end of Apartheid Interracial marriages have been talking place since South Africa's birth.There was a special classification for these people, "The Coloureds..." and long before Mandela my mother referred to this Group of people as as the Rainbow people of South Africa, the inside Term was sometimes used was "Smarties "
Imagine doing demonic things on someone else's continent to prove your superiority.
Who cares dating from different races is a choice and there is nothing special
uBabalwa, its not a choice, Mma . the heart choses . the big deal is the family.
It is the heart choice👍,totally agree! NO BIG DEAL ABOUT IT. IT IS PEOPLE THAT MAKE IT A BIG DEAL!!
Your very right brother
TOTALLY LOVE THIS COUPLE MY WIFE IS ALSO INDIAN AND IM BLACK WOW LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS ASKING ME BUT HOW AND WHY INDIAN? LOL GUESS WHAT I WILL ALWAYS LOVE AND CHERISH MY FAMILY
Honestly black people are very humble people..We allow every one to come in this country then start looking down on us...Africa is where the majority is black people.So why do the other race groups like being in a continent where filled with the people they hate most?.Black people deserve respect and no one should take advantage of our kindness.....
Because it was the next continent to take over but they failed at it. They only managed to secure a little spot on the Southern coast. For everything people try to say about us, we are fvcking resilient, they have never ever stamped us out, and they can't doubt it. Whether its Frederick Douglass, Nelson Mandela, the Haitian revolutionists, or the many independence movement leaders, everytime, we bargained for our own well-being and got off from under their yoke. They better stop playing with us, or once we are done, we will paralyze their posterity with excruciating guilt like we always do. They will all need therapists like they all do now
In Zimbabwe we are not kind we know that these other races hate us
I hold the view that, it's high time that our education system create a space for white people to learn African languages at school especially in the lower grades.
Whats the point, they are going to have to leave sometime in the future anyway
they have only the option to go away ...why learn anything that will not benefit them
Create a space for whites to learn African language? The blacks fought against learning Afrikaans.... You suggested reverse apartheid here....lol...
They can if they want to….
It’s all there
@@rachaelfrancis9186 it's not, whites came on African land so it's common sense to learn the native languages.
The new generation doesn’t care about race it’s all about class.
Colorisim, racism, and classism exist everywhere around the world. Not just South Africa, you should look at Latin America. In Latin America it’s more about colorism, classism, and self-Hate. Their was no hate and racism in Latin America, like that of the US during Jim Crow or Apartheid periods.
Every country that white people colonized has Colorism and/or Racism
Not true, You don't find this type of behavior and Latin America.
@johnnyflores5954 In Europe it is even worse. There’s a lot of hypocrisy. Whites there act like they like Blacks but it doesn’t mean they really do. Visibly ethnic non whites do not get the best job opportunities, nor do they have the same socioeconomic statuses. The majority are poorer and live in working class or sub standard housing. Worse, heaven forbid if they fall foul of the law. They are treated a lot harsher. Yet these voices are the first to scream and shout off the rooftops about how great they have it. There is a mistaken belief ‘oh well it is not as bad as…’ and they kid themselves into believing they are trailblazers and things are improving. Things are going backwards not forwards.
Perhaps it is time to be more honest and quit lying and pretending. Being unable to talk openly about this topic is quite sad really
Wow I must say coming from Trinidad having an Indian father and African mother I can relate to this. racism is real but if people just look at the purpose of life they will see that love conquer all hate and they will live and let live
I’ve always been curious about Trinidad and Tobacco interms of how black people of African descendants get along with Indian people, to be honest here in South Africa I find Indians South Africans to be extremely racist
@@lungamadoda6992 it’s the same in Trinidad 🇹🇹 and Guyana 🇬🇾. Indians don’t like blacks but there are some interracial couples between the two groups and the kids who are made from the reunion are called Dougla.
@@lovelymix8056 black people were the first in those countries but they allowed Indians to defeat them
@@lovelymix8056 so erasing the black race is good
Aye Trini 2 D Bone 🇹🇹🇹🇹🇹🇹
Wow !! An amazing documentary. Very insightful. SA is no doubt a work-in-progress.
The young generation inspires hope for a bright future.
Woww, Respect to Sebastian for loving his wife regardless of family mindset. I am not sure about the rate of South African interracial couples. Some of us we are married with Europeans outside South Africa. My family and his family accepted us with warm hands. I get emotional when my mother in-law in Sweden 🇸🇪 asks How is my mother doing in South Africa
Not hard form him to lover her: she's got a pretty face, lovely big ass n big boobs, and if she loves him back the same well, the man's a king 👑
Africans don't keep enmity deep in their hearts. We find it difficult to carry enmity through and through generations.
Are you afghan?
@@ChromeMan04 African. Why?
@@baruasafi5880 ur last name that’s why
@@ChromeMan04 In Swahili African language it means 'clean'.
@@baruasafi5880 oh that’s interesting
Getting to know people personally inviting them into your home is very different from the experience as mere neighbors or coworkers
Definitely it creates including. Imagine living alongside your neighbor, but y'all consider eachother as rivals. It makes no sense. Something has to give at some point.
I wish South Africans could move on from the past and celebrate love. I personally am pro interracial because it creates diversity people are bound to fall in love whether the public likes it or not.
so the idea is to have more n more inter racial families, n eventually all people become one race and u save the world !
Ek hope it becomes normalized I find black girls attractive as a white afrikaner i personally want a hot black girl 😂
But we know what this stuff iss like😅
What I can say is that humans always form groups,and these become tribes,the repeated habits create culture. It's the ignorance of the habits of the other group that creates competition. Usually economic competition being the most powerful determinant,all other excuses of difference like religion or culture etc are promoted by those who benefit from being at the economic top.
It's usually the people at the bottom hating each other, the higher you go the lesser the intolerance within the economic classes. So rich white and black and brown have less race or tribe anxiety. I come from Ghana, we where lucky that our founding father Kwame Nkrumah, recognised the need to mix us socially, so the civil service moved people around to different parts of the country, and the boarding schools did the same for students, so we got to meet people from different tribes and classes early in life and later in life. This created knowledge and tolerance of different behaviours, this has been a great blessing for Ghana. Countries that didn't have this are still grappling with the legacy of divide and rule that was amplified by colonial exploiters.
I am confident that time will heal this challenge.
LMAO Nelson Mandela was not fighting for interracial marriages, he fought to free his people. 2:25 what a ridiculous statement
11:40 The mother, when confronted with Sebastian, realises that he does not correspond to her prejudices against Indians! Humans have a big problem: they confuse difference of skin (or religion, place, country etc) with difference of ideas and attitudes. This is either due to laziness, vulgar belief (fear of the black cat), or to the will of politicians to flatter this laziness in order to enlist people by designating others as enemies (parties based on ethniq or religious nationalism ). But in reality, each person has his or her own identity and you have to know the person to know his or her ideas and attitudes, not on the basis of his or her colour, religion or geographical origin: no court will ever allow you to bring a complaint against someone's colour, religion or origin: it's not normal! So why condemn billions of people on this basis alone, as many people do? This is what we should all learn, just as we learn to count or swim. These vital social skills for living in society and in the world are not taught anywhere at all.
As a South African living in America this was hard to watch. Although being black in America is hard, i look forward to a future were equality becomes a reality in South Africa. I love my country and I am hopeful for the future
Wow
Why did you leave if you love it so much!
@@linselmitchell7046 my family relocated
Just teach your people to love other africans
So how are things there in the US with interracial dating. Have you had anyone from a different race approach you before?
let me tell you my relationship with the hungerian guy I'm black south African Yoh Yoh Yoh that guy was everything to me😭😭he passed away 2014 I missed him till today I'm still crying 😭😭😭😭
I'm not a racist, but you see that gentleman who claimed to have stopped a war; exactly what the aunty was saying when she said Indians think they are so wiser and arrogant
People should date and marry whoever they want . I'm south africa there are still some people who are against it but that's their own views , they shouldn't push it on other people though . I'm not white and dating a white woman , there nothing anyone can do about it .
Who cares!
@@lnwh4756 People like you don't care. You should know that white people are humans too you know. No matter what race you are, you and any race around are all humans.
Love this documentary. Full of tragic stories and hope.
Same story in Zimbabwe, although inter racial is more tolerated. People in SA can be more upfront. Pam is mixed race, coloured.
There are still white people in Zimbabwe?
@@Mo-yd8xc
Yes there are, lots of different ethnicities.
How’s the farming going?
I am from South Africa. And mixed,....which they call is coloured! Since leaving South Africa from the year 1996,and now I live and work overseas,I have learnt to appreciate,who I am and see the world in a different perspective😊👍.I think that,when a person leaves or visits another country, they start to view their lives differently,and learn to value who they are,and also value learning and openly accept people for just being human.
@@yolandelyle
Same, I'm mixed race living abroad with my family. I'm glad we moved, people here are less judgemental.
As a mixed person who is Nigerian, South African and luso Angolan I love this documentary so much though I noticed that Johannesburg is getting more diverse and interracial
That's good to see. I'm just tired of this racial feud here in SA I believe when people intermarriay it creates diversity and less tension. Just my view.
You look South African am not taking anything away from other parts of yr makeup am just saying wat am seeing
@@andilemzanywa4331 my dad is 100% south african maybe that's why
@@DaughteroftheKing-h1k how is ur name and surname Nigerian then if ur dad is South African?
@@cp0rings286 since when did cardoso become a nigerian name?
I wish I could hug the poor mother who lost her son to the violence her grandchild is beautiful you can see the heartache in her eyes god bless her and her family I wish you all health and prosperity stay strong stay safe ❤❤❤❤❤
a documentary about love and relationships but you slip in an incident that was politically sparked. very sinister. stick to the subject of the video because the law has not yet run it's course as to what happened during the unrest. your interviewees have said themselves they lived peacefully for years and then something just shifted overnight. racism was the scapegoat for something else that was going on that time.
I'm a black South African and I'd like to try an interracial relationship with the host of this doccie :) lol
I dated outside also and her family called blacks "blackies" or black boys, it was actually terrible..
Your mentally defeated love your own not your enemies
Heart breaking yet lovely. The power of intention.
As a South African myself, I can say that it is true, mix-race relationships are not very common here, but I personally have no problems with them at all. People are people.
Mixed race relations allways causes more divide just wait and watch ,and blacks will still be the most affected
I as a white i oppose interacial intercourse, for one simple reason, the offspring will not be white, and they will identifye themselves as black100% like Obama, Lewis Hamilton whose mother are white, but never mentioned as they are ashamed of them. driven to the logic conclusion eventually the white race would be no more.
@@marcellogenesi6390 to be honest most biracial people l know identify more with their white side ,and l don't like interacial relationships as well,but why do you talk about black Vs white relationships when we all know that white and Asian Is now the most popular and also the children don't look white?
@@icetrip2417 You know you are not telling the truth, biracial children cannot possibly identify as white as their skin is not white, there is very little difference if any in skin colour between say a Japanese, or a Chinese or a Pashtoon and a European given that people from the Med are slightly darker than Scandinavians. Blacks are different, they are a different race; we did not make ourselves different nature did. interracial marriages between blacks and whites would be the end of the white race. You may not care about , but I certainly do.
Lmao i am biracial, White German father and Coloured mother,how can i identify as White but my skin colour is Brown? The people will think im a coconut.
Dirty blood in our land? This people need a new spear of the nation 😡 a 21 century spear
INDIA ALSO KNOWN AS EASTERN ETHIOPIA. "It seems certain that classical historians and geographers called the whole region from EGYPT TO INDIA, BOTH COUNTRIES INCLUSIVE BY THE NAME OF ETHIOPIA, and in consequence, they regarded all the dark-skinned and black peoples who... inhabited it as Ethiopians"
There's something off with this video. It just seems so generalised. I hate it when people misrepresent South Africans. Most people in South Africa are good people, who just want to get through their daily lives without drama. I've seen mixed couples and I don't stare, but maybe others do. It's just very generalised. I've been between black men and they didn't try to feel me up. They were actually very well mannered, I was also between white men, who weren't. It's not your skin colour, it's the way you were raised and often the amount of alcohol or drug consumed that make people misbehave, as in every other country. Just saying. 🇿🇦
Very much so, I hate this videos as well. We don't have problem with mixed race relationships they even embraced.
Elisa, you are also an older woman with a now much calmer outlook on life in general because the competitiveness of dating , building family , veneer of respectability is behind you so it kind of makes sense that you'd perceive things differently. People can want to live their lives peacefully with no drama but do you believe IR hatred can't co-exist along with ? you are dreaming. I am in europe . i have a white dad and a black mom. my white side of the family wrote me off entirely when i was around 4-5 . Really not surprised in SA its all cuckoo for cocoa puffs
@elsa Hoffmann you are spot on and I agree with you 100%: it's all about how you were raised.
Unfortunately, a lot of people were not raised to value education, so they may not have furthered their education in psychology; therefore, are not aware of inherited beliefs due to his or her environment, such as the nature verses nurture debate.
Furthermore, people are people, so there are those, who most consider to be good because they're not willing to inflict bad intent onto others for personal gain, coexisting in environments with those, who most consider to be bad people willing to inflict bad intent onto others for personal gain.
The fact of the matter is all people are incentivized to behave in a certain manner because we are all selfish beings, which is natural. The "good person" generally treats others like she/he wants to be treated. The "bad person" generally treats others how she/he treats him or herself. Some knowingly, some unknowingly are grouped into these categories.
The solution is to bring more of an awareness to diverse thinking. By first acknowledging that it is okay to be different!
A stick has two sides, yet it is the same stick. One side is opposite of the other, yet it's okay to be on one side of the stick before learning of the opposite. A greater awakening and understanding is experienced by the individual when realizing that there exist an opposite side; thus, the individual feels more entitled to make a distinction between the two side after being exposed to more data. THE KEY IS TO NEVER STOP LEARNING. More data means more of an understanding of what a stick really is, the sticks functionality, the sticks purpose. This is the definition of growth.
We all start out as a child growing up in a world of contrast. As children, the only way to really know what we want from what we don't want is by getting experience but experience comes with time. Unfortunately, humans don't have a lot of time to be present on this earth in our physical bodies with other people we love and enjoy the most; therefore, most will view time in an economical sense of lacking time; consequently, out of fear, we may have a tendency to adapt to the environment in which we are raised, on a micro-economical scale, slowly beginning to believe what those around us believed. More over, since parents have the tendency to believe that it is the parents job to teach children what to believe, parents will do their best to indoctrinate the mind of their child/children while in their presence, with respect to time.
This cycle can loop for generations until we exit the loop by crossing state borders, then countries borders to meet new people, live in different places around the globe, explore, become open to cultural differences, collect new data, and evolve back into being human beings...
@@PHlophe thank you for this comment. It’s not easy at all, I’m in an IR and in SA it’s so fcken stressful. The white people are so racist towards me as the Black partner etc.
Great interview.👏
To see the truimphant spirit of rising above colour codes and unnecessary stereotypes...Springs of Hope in Msanzi 🎇
I lived in Port Elizabeth as kenyan fell in love with south African black girl but her male friends nearly killed me
Ah, yes. The world renowned pan-African spirit of my black African compatriots.
look at her hair it is so refreshing to see a black woman with her natural hair it is so beautiful
This is a whole beautiful story altogether I wish everyone could be forgiving and loving, am sure even though Enhle's Mum knew who had killed her son she is willing to forgive, this reminds me of one lady in Rwanda that decided to take a young man as a son who was in the group of men that killed her husband in the genocide but only chose to forgive and love him as a son. this is beautiful.....
Sarah and Ndaba are not ordinary South Africans ( black and white), they are of the same cultural background.
Interracial relationships are NORMAL... we're used to them so they're okay
I mean come on,we live in an age where men can marry other man... I'd say we are the most open-minded generation you'll ever know.
It's not as bad as it was back then
The apartheid scar will never fully heal i guess
Sebastian you is the man my man…I always say “you never plan who you will fall in love with if it’s genuine love” it sees no colour and boundaries
Ya know, I have never understood how dutch europeans came to Africa and displaced those who belong there?? I don't understand how that happened in the first place. It's very strange to me.