@@fahdhussein6760same here. His Khalid Ibn Walid & various Islamic history is why I am here but now I want to learn it all! It’s fascinating & I didn’t know about pretty much any of this but I am from the US so maybe not surprising.
Thank you Roy. I learned alot about my countries earlier years. I matriculated in South Africa in 1987. So I'm speaking from experience being a coloured high school student at the time. The insurection started inI Soweto but all non white schools were part of the insurrection. Not just the African schools. I lived through it from my primary school days to the year I matriculated. Actually my first yeart at a coloured university too. I love your lectures, especially the ones of the muslim world. I'm a Muslim from Malaysian slave and Indian traders descent. Thank you
Dr. Casagranda, outstanding lecture as usual, it's impossible to not see the parallels of what happened in South Africa with what has been happening in Palestine for70+ yrs now.
I dont really see any. The White South Africans never tried to exterminate the Bantus, like the Palestinians are being exterminated. The two state solution would be apartheid, Israel is an exterminationist state, not an apartheid state.
@@DanSam48It’s both. The Palestinians in Gaza are being exterminated now, but the Palestinians in the West Bank are living under a cruel apartheid while the Palestinians within Israel proper are living under Apartheid-lite. Don’t worry if Likud and Netanyahu have their way, you will end up being correct for the West Bank and maybe the Palestinians living in Israel too.
As a South African Indian, indentured labourer heritage, born in 1980, thank you for extending the voice of our country through yours. Nkosi sekele iAfrika 🙏🏽🇿🇦
Having lived under Apartheid and the 'new' South Africa from black townships to white areas. Here is the hard cold fact. South Africa today is a BIGGER mess than during Apartheid for people of all races. Black townships in rural areas are un-kept, worse and more unsafe. South Africa has close to 1 million people murdered since the end of Apartheid, more than some countries at war! It is aptly called the murder and rape capital of the world. It also has more racist laws than during Apartheid, supposedly to 'help' black people, except it's looking after a small group in government. Unemployment and poverty is sky rocketing. Taking all these points which can be easily checked it's quite clear why the 'anti-Apartheid' stories need to be dug out from 30 years ago, because the current mess is too much of an embarrassment.
I'm 55 years old with college degrees and I learn more from your videos than I ever did in my primary OR secondary educations! Your students are lucky to have you in their young lives!
absolutely. i love how he makes this content free when people pay tens of thousands for content of lower quality in colleges all over the country. Roy is the goat.
There are many things I'm grateful in life for and one of them is to have found and being able to watch Professor Roy Casagranda's lectures. Thank you for your work!
Thank you Dr. Roy, I am a stateless Palestinian with a degree in City Planning and I am currently studying Apartheid and Spacial Justice; this was super informative and very informative to the case of Apartheid in Israel/Occupied colonized Palestine.
I hope this isn't thoughtless and rude of me to ask, but have you ever seen the maps of the settler terrorism of the indigenous American's and compared them to Israel's settler terrorism of your homeland? It's such similar patterns that it's crazy. Again, I apologize if this was crass. I promise it was unintended. Free Palestine 🇵🇸✊🏼
I pray the Palistinians will find the peace and freedom they so long for. South Africa had Apartheid which was inhumane and fortunately on on the scale that Gaza and West Bank has had which is diabolical and inhumane. My heart breaks for all of the Palistinians and others who have endured sub human treatment. (as an Irish descent, one understands). Was happy Ireland and others have stood with the Palistinians.
This lecture should be played in all RSA high school, so much understanding, simplified. I've learnt so much from the lecture tgat I never did in school. Excellent lecture Dr
As a South African and having learnt SA history as part of my schooling, this lecture was par excellent in terms of linking the apartheid movement to the wider geo political context at the time. Stand outs for me from this talk: 1. The overhauling of the senate to push through apartheid laws in the 50s - carbon copy happening in Israel today 2. The nuclear war heads created by the apartheid regime with Israel to use if the need arose. Had things went that way, I wouldn't be here today ..... that is wild to even give thought to! Uncanningly similar to Israel's motivation to develop nuclear weapons of their own today Thank you Dr Roy - you are a legend!
Sadly he forgot to mention the freemasons and it's influence on history. Let me liniten you. Piet Retief voortrekker Mason Jan Smuts Mason Louis Botha, Mason . Then came the Afrikanerbond close links with Freemasonry. Malan, Verwoerd, 0:36 0:36 Pik Botha , FW DE Klerk on the one side Nelson Mandela Bish.Tu.Tu. nights of Malta an elete groop of the Freemasons on the other side , Freemasons control both sides. ( This is unfortunately not in any skool kurrikulum)
@@stlouisix3 So, it's the Saracens now, huh? Even so, they have been there for more than a millennium. As opposed to the settler colonists from Poland, Ukraine, etc.
Trust me, Nelson Mandela's ANC doesnt care about Palatine. Because under their rule South Africans are having it as bad, worse in some cases than Gaza. Nobody really knows this because most don't follow up on the nation's disposition, but we who live under the ANC regime know that this is all a PR stunt for brownie points for the elections. They have this thing where they constantly try fish for relevancy as a freedom fighter, the struggle, when that hasnt been the case for the better part of 29 years. And many Christian South Africans are also poorly informed and side with Israel because the Bible tells them Israel can do no wrong because of obvious biblical reasons. So idiots all around
I'm about 25 minutes in, and while I have to acknowledge care and attention to detail, there are a few key historical inaccuracies that should be noted. First, the establishment of the Boer Republics in the interior weren't actually as violent as suggested, at least not for the Orange Free State or the South African Republic; Natalia - certainly, violent clashes with the Zulu are a main theme and why it was so short-lived. The curious reality of it, is that while the interior certainly showed evidence of widespread settlement in the past, the territory was largely empty and the establishment of the republics was remarkable for their lack of bloodshed. The early Boers mostly had favourable relations with the Basotho, Tswana and Ndebele (local Matabele). The next key point is the Cape Coloured, you've characterised them as a product of the mingling of the Xhoe-Xhoen (and Namaqua and Nama) and the Dutch settlers. While that certainly was true, you also should not disregard the influence of the Cape Malay component - the slaves transported from modern Indonesia and Malaysia. They are the reason for the notable presence of Islam in South Africa today, as well as their influence on the development of Afrikaans as compared with Dutch and of course on the culinary tradition. Also, being a Cape Coloured isn't about being racially mixed, it's an identifiable ethnogroup with a distinct accent and rich culture.
That final point is so important. People have a tendency today to label any mixed person (especially white and black mixed) as coloured when the reality is as you've described. There is also significant xhosa admixture in the coloured racial pot. This has led to a situation where you can't distinguish a coloured person just from their complexion. Indeed, coloured complexions range all the way from being as pale as a white person to darker than some black people. Culture is the only determinant of whether someone is coloured or not. With the caveat that many people who would otherwise be identified as coloured choose to identify as black for a host of reasons related to apartheid and mutual struggle with black people, as of course is their right.
How do you know that? Did you live through it? It's all just opinions. I am White South African. I can only talk about that perspectives. The Non White people will have a different perspective. It will not necessarily invalidate the White perspectives.
@@DeonPretorius-f9g Who are you asking? Most of the points in this specific thread are factual and can be confirmed, I also don't see any answers that have racial bias.
As someone who grew up in the end of Apartheid, Im proud of the South Africa we've managed to build. Loads of issues, but there is no doubt in my mind that we are Stronger Together. People who are at polar ends of conflict, can live together peacefully. ❤ free Palestine
Definitely, I'm a Black South African of 38 years old. We were the 1st group of kids to attend multi racial schools from grade 1 in 1992. South Africa definitely has problems, but we are no longer second class citizens in our own country. The solution is democracy. The ANC got less than 50% and are forced to rule with the "White" DA. We can make progress, we are making progress.
Thanks for your lecture as always it’s the best history lectures. I grew up in Cape Town and was at primary school at the height of the 80’s uprising. The Trojan Horse massacre happened quite close to where I lived. We heard how those boys had fled from the riot police and hid in surrounding homes. They were chased and killed by the riot police who dragged them out of the houses. They were kids. The Truth and Reconciliation was cathartic - we wanted peace we wanted to go forward with hearts at peace. Still a lot of inequality in South Africa but it’s my country and I love it.
I don't think he can talk about Palestine. Too much of a risk - getting the RUclips channel deleted, losing job, consequently losing his house which will lead the way to divorce (too much financial burden), not getting jobs anymore (fruitpicking perhaps).
@@wari-bateshwar7461he’s literally says palestine when he’s talking about history and rarely says israel. Also, he has literally talked about it and said he’s pro-Palestine.
I am a Colored South African, born and bred in Cape Town, my great-grandmother was a slave, my grandmother would tell me some hair-raising stories, similar to Dr. Roy😢
same here, group areas act my family. My father was thrown out their home and only received reparation recently. They suffered most of their lives because of this...living in poverty and obviously being treated as second grade citizens.
As a "Cape Malay coloured" South African, I thank you for your time, effort, insight and eloquence in discussing Apartheid. Healing is possible, it takes generations and an active accurate understanding of history to move forward with goodness! I pray we get there soon!🙏
I assume you also learned that when the Dutch came to Cape Town, they intermarried with the local people. Only the elite was allowed to bring their wives. And every single marriage was written down.
@@Deontjie no shit! of course he knows, he should also know as a 'cape malay coloured' most likely hes 10% malay and the other actual coloured and white etc.... cause the muslims have tried to completely take over the coloured culture..and ITS NOT PEACEFUL.
This is an excellent lecture. No sugar coating and nursing feelings. Straight to the point, fact after facts. I wonder what would happen if this history was to be taught the exact same way in South african schools. A big majority will finally wake up.
As a 53 yr old South African of Indian descent, I can say that this lecture is an excellent account of what happened in South Africa. After watching this, then you may understand the situation in Palestine better and understand why we see commonality of the struggles they are experiencing. In fact what whey are experiencing is a on different scale. Genocide. Ruthless Jewish Nazi Israeli state and like the apartheid state of South Africa, it will too come to end. Thank you sincerely Roy.
@@jonathankennedy-good3541It's not, yet that claim persists. The views of Israeli Arabs on youtube speaks volumes, as do comments from other pro-Israel Arabs. Only some Jews may be so far right they can't see straight.... Also, no one, Jewish or American Evangelical, may claim Biblical blessings for the state of modern Israel: only the right of physical heritage allows them to be there.
@@jonathankennedy-good3541zionism that is root cause of israel , has history of collaboration with nazis , read the book : secret relationship between nazis and zionism basically zionist wanted europeon jews to move to palestine and they did that by collaborating with nazis by making germany unliable for them
@@jonathankennedy-good3541 Nazism is 'nationalist socialism' basically the supremacy of one race over another - socialism based on race - be it German, Jewish or White. They are all based on the idea of a 'chosen race' or german/white/jewish supremacy at the expense of another. Nazism is a type of race-based ideology based on their view hardship (lebensraum for Germany, holocaust for Jews, the concentration camps for Afrikaners) - the variables change (the zionist become the germans, the Palestinians become the jews) - the variables change but the formula remains the same. Place the oppressed group in a ghetto, deny them rights, dehumanise them, kill them if they object, develop a strong propaganda effort justifying your actions. The variables changed, the formula remained the same.
The border war was most definitely a war we won, as told in his book by Gen Jannie Geldenhuys, who ultimately negotiated the peace deal, too. His book: "Those who win," or "Die Wat Wen." For, he had promised the soldiers on the ground, in that unreported war, to tell their story. His book is so worthy of being read! The official English translation changed the title, for a wider readership, to "At the Front".
This lecture now is a master's strike by the master himself. Thank you professor Casagrande for divesting the narratives of colonialists from Latin America to South Africa and of course to those who shouldn't be named.
In Latin America we don't care about colonialist. In fact we celebrate and rejoice it because of Spain and Portugal we spoke one language and one culture. We have unity.. yet we are also very racially diverse.
@@lenardogorra613 Probably the colonialization process was so effective it resulted in this unity you are reffering to. But I would argue that many core problem Latin America is facing, like poverty, political and economical instability, drug cartels... Have bases in that colonialism. The theft of natural resources and forcing new cultural had to be accompanied by more violent measures toward the native population, and as I said its effects are still experienced now by Latin America countries.
As a “coloured “ South American I must say I’ve never heard our history explained so thoroughly and truthfully 🇿🇦 as Palestine 🇵🇸 is experiencing a genocide right now this lecture is so important
It's a left American view... they love to stick there nose everywhere, don't forget they murdered all the indigenous people and imported slavery but they want to be the judge and jury.
This Dr has his biases too, for all his attempts to be fair. Different cultures have their interactions with each other, but it's not always just as he sees it.
Speak for yourself, soweto is in the shape of a bulls eye so if your people got out of line the whites would plan to drop a boom on yall. My great grandmothers family was forcedly removed from their farming homelands in Central Pretoria and dumped in a crowded informal dry desert settlement using truck loads, using sjamboks, dogs and guns.
Nope, no such thing as apartheid in Israel. All Israelis have always been equal among each other. In South Africa it was NOT perfect, but each ethnic group was looked after by its own people. Not forever viable and re-integrating was ultimately to be done, but it would have been so much better without communist input..., in South Africa and Namibia. Keeping communism itself away from our country was our vital achievement, our successful Vietnam.
Wow. You really have to admire the foresightedness and progressive way in which the black native people of South Africa navigated post apartheid. Instead of doing the logical thing which is to run out your conquerer and oppressor & see what you can do from there. But they actually decided to try and perform what really is a historical miracle. They chose to fix the world as they found it. I commend the patience of the South African people who are genuinely participating in their democratic experiment. It's a beautiful expedition and the world is rooting for its success because it will prove that the world can work in a better way. Where people strive together for a shared greater good. I was there a few years back and the warmth & kindness of it's people touched me as a person who saw things as black and white. Which my experiences over there changed how I saw the world completely. Everybody was gracious, friendly, warm spirited. White, black...you name it. Very nice people. I hope that they can weed out the detractors & the racists and power forward with their beautiful experiment. We are watching with hope.
I’m seriously thankful for you right now Roy. we’re so out of touch with reality that it just nauseates me. I’ve learned so much from your lectures and hope to see more topics, but you’re one of my favorites to listen to on repeat at the moment
I am happy to see in South Africa all races that a good percentage of our citizens get a long with each other even with a different cultures. We do have a some bad elements. Our struggle with the ecomonic and breakdowns of infastructures has drawn us in some ways together and in discussions feel the same way on how difficult it is to live with it. May God continue to bless us even through our difficulties.
I am so thankful for these lectures and for the Dr's time in giving them. These are very valuable to me and I hope for those who appreciate the stark reality of our humanity .
It is really hard not to hear what has happened in south Africa and not immediately think about Palestinian people and what they are facing under apartheid regime in thier homeland 🍉🍉, They use the same arguments that the dutch, British used to day about natives in south africa and america, but truth will always prevail, #FreePalestine 🇵🇸 🇵🇸 ❤❤
And this is why our universities are such a shit show. Absolute rubbish. Area was very, very sparsely inhabited. When the Dutch settlers developed the area, many blacks moved in from the North because they Dutch and English were creating prosperity. South Africa today is a classic example of a failed state and it isn't because of your Dutch settlers. This grievance studies professor is a classic example of not having to live with his assumptions .
@ashleywebb2736 it is amazing how every place that colonial powers went was empty , the Americans, Caribbeans, Palestine, India, east indies, every place was empty, even if it was what give you the right to colonise a place remove its people and then enslave them steal thier resources then build a powerful economy because it is build on slaves aka sheap labor , then complain when these people get some of thier wealth back
@ashleywebb2736 there are still powerdul people working against the South African project. Bell Pottinger showed us this. But what I know is that my children have endless possibilities available to them. Opportunities that I didn't have, that my siblings didn't have, and that my parents didn't have. My parents had their land taken away from them, my siblings had traumas thrown at them at school and their friends were dragged off to jail. So I'm glad we don't live in the old South Africa.
Very informative, as a young South African born in the mid 80s, I appreciate this type of lectures to educate us about the history of our country. Truly appreciated, I have hope that the people of Palestine will be free, God is for us all, may he heal the dark hearts of the oppressors, may He open their eyes and let them see that no human being is less than the other, for we are all children of the most high. Peace be unto the world. Free Palestine 🇪🇭🇪🇭🇪🇭
“When you’re isolated like that, how do you get the worlds attention without violence? The world didn’t care when your children got massacred. The world didn’t care at all until you fought back”
An excellent recount the history of my country from a western view point. I will not lie, hearing it cuts so very deep. What is mostly worrying is the inequallity, denial and injustice that still continues. It's truely heartbreaking.
As a South African growing up in the apartheid era, I've learned more in this lecture than in all of my history lessons in school. I am not surprised why this was not taught in schools.
This was taught in schools during history lessons...that was in the 80' though...if you are younger I don't know what your guys history curriculum entailed
@@MeisiekindYes, I'm certain you're right. I am just young enough to have missed my turn for that full coverage at school, in high school. My younger cousins experienced a very, very watered down coverage of history.
As a South African, best interpretation I have seen, just one important error and one omission, which has been important and different to any post segregation country globally. 70% of South Africa's land is owned by government. It is important to discuss affirmative action in South Africa today, which means that any company with 51 or more people has to be 51% Black owned and the fastest growing demographic is the middle class Black today. A far cry from the American solution, I use the term solution very losely.
@@MotlokwaThwiiwhich part? Most of that is from various government gazettes over the last 20+ years. The black middleclass has been the fastest growing class since back in 2007 during Mbeki's presidency. As for the Affirmative Action... Literally current law.
@@MotlokwaThwiiWow I am actually surprised by tht. 70% of farmland is owned by whites and yet people still want to cry about land ownership. No wonder this country is going to kak
I never was interested in History until I came across of Dr. Casagranda few years ago. Thank you for uploading his lectures and making knowledge available for the rest of the world Austin School.
Very good lecture. His story is accurate enough. He leaves out a large part of the South African history dealing with the “conquerors” that moved in from the north. That is OK? That is not OK? I do take exception to being called a thief and a conquerer when the first of my family arrived in Africa in 1752 and married his slave who arrived in South Africa a bit earlier than that, as a slave from Batavia. Interesting enough I, on the other hand, learned most of this history at school in South Africa mixed in with own experience and reading before I entered university.
This is a biased lecture. To the uneducated he seems correct but do more studying you will see this is not as correct as he would like to make it seem. He’s likely never even stepped foot on the continent.
@@JohanThiartI agree with you, as my comment below says he is biased. This is just a hating lecture on white people. He clearly has “white guilt” and thinks trashing us is the way to make himself feel better. He clearly doesn’t understand our people. Speaks nothing of the Bantu genocides committed by the Zulu tribes as they moved south from the Congo just 40-60 years prior to the Europeans arriving.
@@Alex-ze2ii he does know his subject though. There is a subtle “anti colonialism” or a bit tongue in the cheek in his lecture. I think it may well be tongue in the cheek because he uses in other lecture too.
@@JohanThiart he knows what he wants to know. No mention of the first Boer war? But only talks about how the British “destroyed the boers” in the second war? Inconsistencies in the Great Trek. No mention of the Bantus moving down and slaughtering the Koi San.
Hello profesor i haven’t even seen the video but i already know im going to be blown away thank you in advance P.s im still waiting for the palistinian isreal conflict history talk i know ive asked a 100 times now going on 101 lol
Dear Dr. Roy Casagranda, a lecture start with Woe! and your lecture made me 6 times burst to cry, though, truth to be revealed of which the best value for healing from erroneous. Dicisively and imperfectly perfect description over it, in which has much of meaning you have described and deliver the Apartheid of South Africa to simplified; " The hypocratic land' and indeed, the end of your lecture has sublime of deep philosophical message , and..." Truth and Reconcilliation" method to end your lecture, that is start from Woe and end with Weow!Thank you. Yoo Kang
There was a famous pencil test which is ridiculous to think about now. A govt rep would put a pencil in a person's hair. If it slipped down, they could classify as white ( if they had a light enough complexion of course), if it stayed in, they were coloured. Big brains behind that test, obviously...
I think the real reason behind the timing of this precious lecture is clear. 2 birds with one stone. I wish you strength and good fortune professor. Awaiting the next one. Ps. Glad the leg is okay.
As a Xhosa man from South Africa, eMthatha 1. Xhosa nation were also at the cape and were described by the settlers to have a darker skin. We hunted, but we farmed. Every man had kraal to keep his cows and goats and together with the women and children the field was ploughed and planted. 2. Coloured are accepted as same by Africans, you can read Born a Crime by Trevor Noah
Cape Town is a treacherous environment, windy, cold, sandy soil... No one lived in Cape Town in high numbers coz it wasn't a nice place to live in, especially for grazing livestock. Xhosa people would never leave beautiful coastal places to go starve in the Cape, also why are you referencing Trevor Noah's book, Trevor is a mixed breed with a Swiss German white father. His entire routine in SA was 90 % shytting on black people.
Many people of colour (coloured people) in the Cape are descendants of the Khoi. The categorization by racist rulers were unclear due to the slightly lighter skin of the khoi. Additionally, labeling them as 'coloured' could potentially erase their connection to the Khoi heritage.
@@sandrajansevanvuuren7891 Khoi and San people are black Africans There were Xhosa people in the Cape, the foreigners Dutch settlers couldn’t differentiate their click language from other groups. You people will never dictate to us our history silly non Africans
The xhosa moved down to the cape as they were at war with the zulu. They killed the Khoi in droves and stole their animals. The Khoi were considered protected under apartheid. I'm 53yr old born and raised in South Africa. As for the coloured they were anyone with one white parent and one African parent. Anyone with brown skin of ambiguous lineage. In the same category was the malay, Indian and most South Asians. There were codes on the ID's in the last three numbers 00x, the x being from 1 to 8. I was listed as 007, which meant coloured with a European father as was my mother, even though we were all light skinned. As for Natal it was either Dias that gave the name after passing the cape, which he named the cape of storms and eventually had good weather near what is natal on Christmas, thus the name.
Excellent lecture, comes at a very good time, I wish you can do this same topic about another country. But if you did that maybe you'd get cancelled. Love your work and what you said about hell at the start. God bless sir.
My mother was South African - and I was born in 1950 and remember all the family discussions as I grew up. Ive subsequently worked and had holidays in the Cape but never knew the history so clearly explained. He's brilliant. NB I worked in Cape Town during apartheid
I guess if you want to keep your job you're allowed to talk about South Africa apartheid and not the Israeli one yet I don't think you did this one right now by coincidence and it's your way to remind us how terrible is this kind of regime so thank you ❤❤
I really like your lectures Professor Roy, I even replayed half of them. I really wish you would go on Joe Rogan’s podcast, you’ll make a great episode!
I think someone as intelligent as yourself will come around after years doing an episode on the aparthied state of Israel, and the suffering of the paslistinan people. I think we want to see an episode on palistine done by you, but I am afraid we have to wait to see the outcomes of history that will unflod in that region. Great episode!
So great to hear facts and not assumptions! I learnt so much today! Thank you for taking the immense effort of research and the extra time to verbalise!
It took/takes over five teachers and lecturers on a span of six years for me to comprehend what this guy presented in this one video, for many Southas not just me by the way hence takes❤just amazing lecturer this man is. Respect ls earned sir❤
Concentration camps where started in South Africa. It was also a primer of what the Nazis did to the Jews.. Media just didn't like to make a scene about it
South Africa’s homicide statistics are extremely grim. Over 27,000 people were murdered from April 2022 to March 2023. Isn't that a "Death Camp"? And who must we blame? I am sure you will find someone to blame, and it won't be the people doing the murdering.
While you're at it, 45000 people are killed by gun violence in the US every year. Are we going to call it a death camp, too? No. A death camp is a systematic prison camp created by a government for political prisoners or prisoners of war, in which many die from poor conditions and treatment or from mass execution. This definition fitted Auschwitz in Germany, Serbian/Bosnian death camps, and other evil places in history, and it does fit Gaza since October 7.
57:30 how modest this man is ? He lectures history from all over the world from beginning of time to now with details and know couple of languages But still get embarrassed getting out sheet for the exact date of sth Love you Dr. Roy ❤😂
Also segregation did not start with Apartheid in 1948. Segregated policies were implemented way before 1948 by various administrations that governed the various parts of Southern Africa. What did happened in 1948 was that many of the segregated policies were codified into law and implemented with vigour by the Apartheid government.
Absolutely amazing. I actually cried at one point. As a South African, amongst the first to go to a mixed race school (still a minority though) so much has been left out of our history. Gosh I love South Africa #Free Palestine
I hear the voice of professor from 50 years in the future in my head, saying, 'They massacred 30,000 people while the Western world just watched and even aided them. Isn't that cool?' The history is right in front of us.
A bit of nuance here: The Dutch went to South Africa (Cape Town) to establish there a foothold for their commercial ships travelling from Europe to the Indies, and back. It was the last place where ships could re-supply, change crews etc. after a already 3 month journey. And another 2 to 3 months ahead of them. That they intended to take that land for free, yes. That was the norm at the time. However, if the goal was just to take free land for the sake of taking free land, they could have found it closer to home.
First commander in Cape Town, Jan van Riebeeck, outlawed the enslavement of indigenous KhoiSan people. And the VOC resolved not to colonise. The British colonised the Cape in 1806.
Dr Casagrandas lectures should be shown in schools he would increase people's curiosity and iterest in history politics and culture by orders of magnitude.
He is informed but he has his own biases. He correctly differentiates "coloured" between his and our sides of the pond; yet, being racial is vital to one's own identity, so curbing racism is its own issue: the lines must be held distinct!
I stumbled upon your lectures from the free Palestine hashtag, and I haven't stopped watching. I'm a South African who grew up in Soweto. It's so refreshing to listen to this lecture because there were a few things I didn't know or taught in school. My mother was 16 in '76 and told me a lesser known march to John Foster Square a few months after the 16th June. Anyway, I'm definitely sharing this lecture. I'm still watching, but if you could share more on the relationship between the South African Apartheid government and Israel in terms of training and allyship as well as the ANCs vocal support of Palestine then and now.
Great lecture from the professor. As a South African, I think this was a nicely condensed depiction of what happened during the formation of South Africa. The truth is that there was so much more that took place from 1948 to 1990 that one cannot simply fit in into a 2-hour lecture. I thoroughly enjoyed it.
Dr, start by the 1853 event involving Karl Marx in person, which led the British occupiers to institute apartheid back then. Their illegal 1806 invasion took away civil liberties, suffrage, freedom of association and they were first to put segregation (apartheid) on a constitution. They then went on to kill 48,000 women, children and elderly in concentration camps, just as they wiped out 20 000 blacks in such camps. They invaded and colonised South Africa just like Putin invaded Ukraine. Britain invaded countless countries around the globe and oppressed millions "for their protection." They should have been protected against the Englishmen!! But the Afrikaners/Cape Dutch were cleverly blamed. In fact, apartheid was only a racial issue because the pro-communists were all black. Apartheid fought atheist communism, not skin colour. Racists in South Africa 🇿🇦 today aren't the whites.
Ok. You don’t actually know what you are talking about, and I’ll prove it. There are no DUTCH people who invaded native lands here. The Dutch who invaded native lands on 16 April 1652 (Jan Van Riebeeck), did so with three ships, the “Reiger”, the “Dromedaris” and the “Goede Hoop”. Even though he and the majority of the crew were Dutch and had sailed out of Malasia. Their Shipping Company, “Vereenigd Oos-Indiese Companje” (United East Indian Company), was a Tea-company, owned in majority by Britain. Their assignment (by the British) was to establish a trading post at Cape Town. The Dutch thus - under assignment by Britain - “invaded native land”, with 50 Malaysian slaves on board. The ONLY indigenous people to South Africa at that stage were the “Hottentot” (Dutch collective name) or actually San and Xoi Bushman, and a mysterious race calling themselves Griequa. NONE of these tribes were originally from the Cape area. The Bushmen were from the Kalahari Desert in the northern Cape, and the Griequa were mainly from an area around the northern Eastern Cape. THERE WERE NO INDIGENOUS BLACK NATIONS IN SOUTH AFRICA THEN! In 1807, the Dutch withdrew from the Cape and were replaced by the British, who took over their slaves, in accordance with the 1796 treaty NOT knowing how to farm and being too lazy to learn, the Brits imported European farmers from France, Germany, Belgium, Holland, Scotland and Ireland, on the promise of land for free. These farmers did their own work - they did NOT have slaves - the ONLY slaves around belonged to the Brits. To be able to communicate efficiently, these farmers established a common “kitchen language”, made up of words borrowed from all of the different cultures there. When the Brits did their normal thing and taxed these farmers to death, a group of them decided to leave the Cape, and head Northward, inland. This group became known as the “Voortrekkers” (pioneers). And NO! They did NOT INVADE ANYBODY’s land. At that stage, NOBODY owned the land. They WERE however later attacked several times by the “Mfecane”, the Zulu war-scouts, coming from the north-east coastline. The leader of these pioneers, a man by the name of Piet Retief, even went to the then Zulu king, and “BOUGHT” all the land east of the Tugela River from him, for a certain number of cattle. This “sale” was NOT in respect of the land, but for the sake of being left in peace in this area. This same Zulu king, “Dingaan”, then - after having left his mark on the “deed of sale”, pushed Retief off the mountain, killing him. In the meantime, the kitchen-language had evolved and been given a name - Afrikaans. NOT DUTCH! During their trek across the country, the pioneers discovered alluvial gold and diamonds. The Brits heard of this, and went on a kill-mission. They burned ALL farms to the ground, towed women and children in chains and ropes to concentration camps, where they were raped, murdered or starved to death. All simply because they wanted to take control of the wealth. Where do you think Hitler got HIS clever ideas from? And if you don’t believe this is true, go and look at the history of Britain’s colonisation of the world. They have done exactly this same thing EVERYWHERE. So, now tell me… If you DON’T actually know what you are talking about, and you seem to think it is YOUR RIGHT to sit and criticise from OUTSIDE of the country, but all YOU see is RACE, WHO is REALLY the racist? But the reason narrow-minded, opinionated idiots choose to blame the Afrikaans people, is because of one stupid, propagandised word… “APARTHEID”… But you DON’t even know what it means or where it comes from… so let me help you. From the ORIGINAL setup in the Cape, the Brits tried to keep the different cultures of farmers SEPARATE. The word for “BEING SEPARATE” in Dutch, German and Flemish (Belgian) is “APARTHEID”. Look it up in a dictionary, NOT a political reference-book. The Afrikaners (NOT DUTCH) simply wanted to be left alone. But NOW, several HUNDREDS of years later, they STILL have to be chastised by stupid people who are too lazy to do research and find the real facts… they’d rather just regurgitate someone else’s misguided work or opinion… NOT very “clever”.
@@stephen-templar Is there a reason y'all Dutch South Africans are so dead set against accepting history as it is?!? Y'all are constantly trying to rewrite history. You are the only group of people who believe these lies so why not just stop already. Cause this is getting pathetic.
Very true. Unfortunately the history of South Africa is told from an Afro-marxist point of view. They don't like facts and one just has to look at the state of South Africa today to see who the real racists are.
There's definitely a reason why he gave this speech especially during the current political climate we're in now. It helps to clarify a lot and I'm seeing a pattern that is repeating that from this knowledge of the pattern, we will stop from repeating.
Great presentation, clear and concise This is why the natives want their land back right now. Zimbabwe got sanctioned for taking their land. The country is a mess today because of injustice...🔥
This man has taught more in 1 month than any schooling did in 15 years
yeah i found him by accident, but pretty much watching a lecture or two from him daily since then.
@@fahdhussein6760same here. His Khalid Ibn Walid & various Islamic history is why I am here but now I want to learn it all! It’s fascinating & I didn’t know about pretty much any of this but I am from the US so maybe not surprising.
Worst student ever ig
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He's propagandized and indoctrinated you that is why you learned more in one month than 15 years.
I'm a South African 🇿🇦 but this man has taught me in a 2hour video than 12years of school in South Africa
This man really goes through everything
Keep up the good work
Love from south Africa🇵🇸🇿🇦
WTF.?.
@@desfrancis2543 Wth with your ass?
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Thank you Roy. I learned alot about my countries earlier years. I matriculated in South Africa in 1987. So I'm speaking from experience being a coloured high school student at the time. The insurection started inI Soweto but all non white schools were part of the insurrection. Not just the African schools. I lived through it from my primary school days to the year I matriculated. Actually my first yeart at a coloured university too. I love your lectures, especially the ones of the muslim world. I'm a Muslim from Malaysian slave and Indian traders descent. Thank you
Dr. Casagranda, outstanding lecture as usual, it's impossible to not see the parallels of what happened in South Africa with what has been happening in Palestine for70+ yrs now.
I dont really see any. The White South Africans never tried to exterminate the Bantus, like the Palestinians are being exterminated. The two state solution would be apartheid, Israel is an exterminationist state, not an apartheid state.
good point@@DanSam48
@@DanSam48It’s both. The Palestinians in Gaza are being exterminated now, but the Palestinians in the West Bank are living under a cruel apartheid while the Palestinians within Israel proper are living under Apartheid-lite. Don’t worry if Likud and Netanyahu have their way, you will end up being correct for the West Bank and maybe the Palestinians living in Israel too.
@@DanSam48israel does use palestinians as its labor force and does demarcate the population by “race-specific” IDs
@@DanSam48 In the West Bank we see apartheid, in Gaza we see extermination.
As a South African Indian, indentured labourer heritage, born in 1980, thank you for extending the voice of our country through yours. Nkosi sekele iAfrika 🙏🏽🇿🇦
Ask him how many Indinaan did Englang starf to death ?
Would you rather have been in born In India?
Having lived under Apartheid and the 'new' South Africa from black townships to white areas. Here is the hard cold fact. South Africa today is a BIGGER mess than during Apartheid for people of all races. Black townships in rural areas are un-kept, worse and more unsafe. South Africa has close to 1 million people murdered since the end of Apartheid, more than some countries at war! It is aptly called the murder and rape capital of the world. It also has more racist laws than during Apartheid, supposedly to 'help' black people, except it's looking after a small group in government. Unemployment and poverty is sky rocketing. Taking all these points which can be easily checked it's quite clear why the 'anti-Apartheid' stories need to be dug out from 30 years ago, because the current mess is too much of an embarrassment.
Wow, you probably have a high income compared to most people in SA but you still claim your victimhood 😂
@@DuneSurfer I knew it would not take long to find a white South African justifying Apartheid in the comments
Dr Roy Casagranda is the teacher we all wanted but never got. What an absolute gem of a human ❤️
I'm 55 years old with college degrees and I learn more from your videos than I ever did in my primary OR secondary educations! Your students are lucky to have you in their young lives!
I see a lecture from Dr Casagranda, I watch.
Same here, can’t resist!
absolutely. i love how he makes this content free when people pay tens of thousands for content of lower quality in colleges all over the country. Roy is the goat.
You know you have to!!
Same here I've become a bit of fan!!!
I see an ice cream truck, I run after it. 😮😑
There are many things I'm grateful in life for and one of them is to have found and being able to watch Professor Roy Casagranda's lectures. Thank you for your work!
Thank you Dr. Roy, I am a stateless Palestinian with a degree in City Planning and I am currently studying Apartheid and Spacial Justice; this was super informative and very informative to the case of Apartheid in Israel/Occupied colonized Palestine.
I hope this isn't thoughtless and rude of me to ask, but have you ever seen the maps of the settler terrorism of the indigenous American's and compared them to Israel's settler terrorism of your homeland? It's such similar patterns that it's crazy. Again, I apologize if this was crass. I promise it was unintended.
Free Palestine 🇵🇸✊🏼
I pray the Palistinians will find the peace and freedom they so long for. South Africa had Apartheid which was inhumane and fortunately on on the scale that Gaza and West Bank has had which is diabolical and inhumane. My heart breaks for all of the Palistinians and others who have endured sub human treatment. (as an Irish descent, one understands). Was happy Ireland and others have stood with the Palistinians.
Amazing lecture, with palpable resonance to the issues we face today
Hopefully in your studies tht palestine is not under an apartheid system. Likely not though as you are learning bias material
The ethnic cleansing was already done when the Boers went into the interior. It was called the Difakane.
I get thru my 12 hour shifts by listening to Dr Roy Casagranda! 😅❤
No wonder we're failing you're saying you watch 12 hours of his bulshit during your work.
Thank you dr Roy for speaking about nations that are experiencing apartheid 🫡❤
This lecture should be played in all RSA high school, so much understanding, simplified. I've learnt so much from the lecture tgat I never did in school. Excellent lecture Dr
As a South African and having learnt SA history as part of my schooling, this lecture was par excellent in terms of linking the apartheid movement to the wider geo political context at the time.
Stand outs for me from this talk:
1. The overhauling of the senate to push through apartheid laws in the 50s - carbon copy happening in Israel today
2. The nuclear war heads created by the apartheid regime with Israel to use if the need arose. Had things went that way, I wouldn't be here today ..... that is wild to even give thought to! Uncanningly similar to Israel's motivation to develop nuclear weapons of their own today
Thank you Dr Roy - you are a legend!
You want to believe American lefty professors... Verwoed was planning to end apartheid that's why he was taken out... research the Smiths.
Lies, nuclear warheads were made to be used as a threat to countries trying to step into our affairs.
Blatant ignorance to think. Israel is experiencing an apartheid system and you should know better. Shame on you
Lil bro does history and probably gets less than 50% in school and feels the need to talk
Julle weet nie wat ons weet nie
I'm Zambian/South Africa and this man knows more than what we are taught in OUR SCHOOLS!!!
Sadly he forgot to mention the freemasons and it's influence on history. Let me liniten you. Piet Retief voortrekker Mason Jan Smuts Mason Louis Botha, Mason . Then came the Afrikanerbond close links with Freemasonry. Malan, Verwoerd, 0:36 0:36 Pik Botha , FW DE Klerk on the one side Nelson Mandela Bish.Tu.Tu. nights of Malta an elete groop of the Freemasons on the other side , Freemasons control both sides. ( This is unfortunately not in any skool kurrikulum)
FACTS!
Well this is an University lecture and he's a professor
We always have to keep learning.
And that is why Mandela said, "“We know too well that our freedom is incomplete without the freedom of the Palestinians.” #FreePalestine
The Saracens are the opposite of being indigenous, whereas the Indigenous South Äfricäns were persecuted.
Non-Catholic Jewish people like yourself, need to convert to Christianity just as the Saracens and Atheist Pagans do.
@@stlouisix3 So, it's the Saracens now, huh? Even so, they have been there for more than a millennium. As opposed to the settler colonists from Poland, Ukraine, etc.
Thanks levi! ♡
Trust me, Nelson Mandela's ANC doesnt care about Palatine. Because under their rule South Africans are having it as bad, worse in some cases than Gaza. Nobody really knows this because most don't follow up on the nation's disposition, but we who live under the ANC regime know that this is all a PR stunt for brownie points for the elections. They have this thing where they constantly try fish for relevancy as a freedom fighter, the struggle, when that hasnt been the case for the better part of 29 years. And many Christian South Africans are also poorly informed and side with Israel because the Bible tells them Israel can do no wrong because of obvious biblical reasons. So idiots all around
I'm about 25 minutes in, and while I have to acknowledge care and attention to detail, there are a few key historical inaccuracies that should be noted. First, the establishment of the Boer Republics in the interior weren't actually as violent as suggested, at least not for the Orange Free State or the South African Republic; Natalia - certainly, violent clashes with the Zulu are a main theme and why it was so short-lived. The curious reality of it, is that while the interior certainly showed evidence of widespread settlement in the past, the territory was largely empty and the establishment of the republics was remarkable for their lack of bloodshed. The early Boers mostly had favourable relations with the Basotho, Tswana and Ndebele (local Matabele).
The next key point is the Cape Coloured, you've characterised them as a product of the mingling of the Xhoe-Xhoen (and Namaqua and Nama) and the Dutch settlers. While that certainly was true, you also should not disregard the influence of the Cape Malay component - the slaves transported from modern Indonesia and Malaysia. They are the reason for the notable presence of Islam in South Africa today, as well as their influence on the development of Afrikaans as compared with Dutch and of course on the culinary tradition. Also, being a Cape Coloured isn't about being racially mixed, it's an identifiable ethnogroup with a distinct accent and rich culture.
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Thank you, that's why people like Dr. C are 'slim' but not that well informed.
That final point is so important. People have a tendency today to label any mixed person (especially white and black mixed) as coloured when the reality is as you've described. There is also significant xhosa admixture in the coloured racial pot. This has led to a situation where you can't distinguish a coloured person just from their complexion. Indeed, coloured complexions range all the way from being as pale as a white person to darker than some black people. Culture is the only determinant of whether someone is coloured or not. With the caveat that many people who would otherwise be identified as coloured choose to identify as black for a host of reasons related to apartheid and mutual struggle with black people, as of course is their right.
How do you know that? Did you live through it? It's all just opinions. I am White South African. I can only talk about that perspectives. The Non White people will have a different perspective. It will not necessarily invalidate the White perspectives.
@@DeonPretorius-f9g Who are you asking? Most of the points in this specific thread are factual and can be confirmed, I also don't see any answers that have racial bias.
As someone who grew up in the end of Apartheid, Im proud of the South Africa we've managed to build. Loads of issues, but there is no doubt in my mind that we are Stronger Together.
People who are at polar ends of conflict, can live together peacefully. ❤ free Palestine
South Africa is a corrupt broken country. Corrupt to the core.
Definitely, I'm a Black South African of 38 years old. We were the 1st group of kids to attend multi racial schools from grade 1 in 1992.
South Africa definitely has problems, but we are no longer second class citizens in our own country.
The solution is democracy. The ANC got less than 50% and are forced to rule with the "White" DA.
We can make progress, we are making progress.
Thanks for your lecture as always it’s the best history lectures.
I grew up in Cape Town and was at primary school at the height of the 80’s uprising.
The Trojan Horse massacre happened quite close to where I lived. We heard how those boys had fled from the riot police and hid in surrounding homes. They were chased and killed by the riot police who dragged them out of the houses. They were kids.
The Truth and Reconciliation was cathartic - we wanted peace we wanted to go forward with hearts at peace.
Still a lot of inequality in South Africa but it’s my country and I love it.
I think this is the Dr’s way of talking about Palestine, while circumventing peoples allegiances and known/unknown biases.
I don't think he can talk about Palestine. Too much of a risk - getting the RUclips channel deleted, losing job, consequently losing his house which will lead the way to divorce (too much financial burden), not getting jobs anymore (fruitpicking perhaps).
its a genius way to speak about palestine while still protecting his job and livelihood from the american zion lobby.
@@wari-bateshwar7461he’s literally says palestine when he’s talking about history and rarely says israel. Also, he has literally talked about it and said he’s pro-Palestine.
@@amoolakhanshali2972exactly lol
@@wari-bateshwar7461 that's not true He's been supporting Palestine u can go and check there's videos where he talk about Palestine
I am a Colored South African, born and bred in Cape Town, my great-grandmother was a slave, my grandmother would tell me some hair-raising stories, similar to Dr. Roy😢
Any advice on ending Israel colonization in Palestine?
Wow she must have lived to the age if 300
My Gran lived till age 90,,her stories were told to her since she was a child from her mom,and her family!!!@TheDavidliebenberg
same here, group areas act my family. My father was thrown out their home and only received reparation recently. They suffered most of their lives because of this...living in poverty and obviously being treated as second grade citizens.
As a "Cape Malay coloured" South African, I thank you for your time, effort, insight and eloquence in discussing Apartheid. Healing is possible, it takes generations and an active accurate understanding of history to move forward with goodness! I pray we get there soon!🙏
I assume you also learned that when the Dutch came to Cape Town, they intermarried with the local people. Only the elite was allowed to bring their wives. And every single marriage was written down.
Please take this as the compliment it is meant to be... you are GORGEOUS... Wow...
@@Deontjie no shit! of course he knows, he should also know as a 'cape malay coloured' most likely hes 10% malay and the other actual coloured and white etc.... cause the muslims have tried to completely take over the coloured culture..and ITS NOT PEACEFUL.
This is an excellent lecture. No sugar coating and nursing feelings. Straight to the point, fact after facts. I wonder what would happen if this history was to be taught the exact same way in South african schools. A big majority will finally wake up.
As’salaamu’alaikum. Always look forward to seeing a new lecture from Dr Casagranda. Thank you sir.
As a 53 yr old South African of Indian descent, I can say that this lecture is an excellent account of what happened in South Africa. After watching this, then you may understand the situation in Palestine better and understand why we see commonality of the struggles they are experiencing. In fact what whey are experiencing is a on different scale. Genocide. Ruthless Jewish Nazi Israeli state and like the apartheid state of South Africa, it will too come to end. Thank you sincerely Roy.
How can the Jewish state be Nazis? Trying to understand the concept
@@jonathankennedy-good3541It's not, yet that claim persists.
The views of Israeli Arabs on youtube speaks volumes, as do comments from other pro-Israel Arabs.
Only some Jews may be so far right they can't see straight....
Also, no one, Jewish or American Evangelical, may claim Biblical blessings for the state of modern Israel: only the right of physical heritage allows them to be there.
@@jonathankennedy-good3541zionism that is root cause of israel , has history of collaboration with nazis , read the book : secret relationship between nazis and zionism
basically zionist wanted europeon jews to move to palestine and they did that by collaborating with nazis by making germany unliable for them
@@jonathankennedy-good3541 Nazism is 'nationalist socialism' basically the supremacy of one race over another - socialism based on race - be it German, Jewish or White. They are all based on the idea of a 'chosen race' or german/white/jewish supremacy at the expense of another. Nazism is a type of race-based ideology based on their view hardship (lebensraum for Germany, holocaust for Jews, the concentration camps for Afrikaners) - the variables change (the zionist become the germans, the Palestinians become the jews) - the variables change but the formula remains the same.
Place the oppressed group in a ghetto, deny them rights, dehumanise them, kill them if they object, develop a strong propaganda effort justifying your actions.
The variables changed, the formula remained the same.
@@jonathankennedy-good3541 same ideology , supremacy of one race over another.
I don't care what's the topic when I see Dr Casagranda uploaded a new video, I watch. This man has a wealth of knowledge.
The border war was most definitely a war we won, as told in his book by Gen Jannie Geldenhuys, who ultimately negotiated the peace deal, too. His book: "Those who win," or "Die Wat Wen." For, he had promised the soldiers on the ground, in that unreported war, to tell their story. His book is so worthy of being read!
The official English translation changed the title, for a wider readership, to "At the Front".
You lost and were forced to give up Namibia and end apartheid in South Africa silly Dutch settler
This lecture now is a master's strike by the master himself. Thank you professor Casagrande for divesting the narratives of colonialists from Latin America to South Africa and of course to those who shouldn't be named.
In Latin America we don't care about colonialist. In fact we celebrate and rejoice it because of Spain and Portugal we spoke one language and one culture. We have unity.. yet we are also very racially diverse.
@@lenardogorra613 Probably the colonialization process was so effective it resulted in this unity you are reffering to. But I would argue that many core problem Latin America is facing, like poverty, political and economical instability, drug cartels... Have bases in that colonialism. The theft of natural resources and forcing new cultural had to be accompanied by more violent measures toward the native population, and as I said its effects are still experienced now by Latin America countries.
As a “coloured “ South American I must say I’ve never heard our history explained so thoroughly and truthfully 🇿🇦 as Palestine 🇵🇸 is experiencing a genocide right now this lecture is so important
I am an Indian from South Africa 🇿🇦 and what you are saying is the truth.
South Africa will never be free until Palestine is free ❤🇵🇸 🇿🇦
It's a left American view... they love to stick there nose everywhere, don't forget they murdered all the indigenous people and imported slavery but they want to be the judge and jury.
why don't you want to identify as black?
Would you like Palestine to resemble Iran?
You white
Thankyou Dr Casagrande.. it really relates to what is happening right now in Apartheid Israel towards the Palestinian people..
This is so disrespectful to South Africans... it's not the same
This Dr has his biases too, for all his attempts to be fair.
Different cultures have their interactions with each other, but it's not always just as he sees it.
I'm a 22 year old South African. Only learnt today that Soweto is short for South West Town. Great lecture overall. Thank you Dr.
Speak for yourself, soweto is in the shape of a bulls eye so if your people got out of line the whites would plan to drop a boom on yall. My great grandmothers family was forcedly removed from their farming homelands in Central Pretoria and dumped in a crowded informal dry desert settlement using truck loads, using sjamboks, dogs and guns.
Should be ashamed of yourself. Real talk
South Western Township. Now figure out what Soshanguve is short for.
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Thank you for shedding light on Apartheid. The world needs more knowledge on that, especially these days. #FreePalestine
You aretalking a lot of nonsense where did you grow up on mars
@@NicoBotha-t2z I know a zionist bot when I see one 😂
Invite some Palestinians to stay with you... just have a good chat with Lebanon before so you can know what to expect
As a South African I can confirm this insight is missed completely. The truth is hidden in plain sight. Very impressive lecture.
A lecture on the racist and apartheid structure in israel next?
There Are Two Types Of People in this world:
1) Those who can extrapolate incomplete data.
you're watching it
How about a lecture on African tribal war?
Nope, no such thing as apartheid in Israel. All Israelis have always been equal among each other.
In South Africa it was NOT perfect, but each ethnic group was looked after by its own people. Not forever viable and re-integrating was ultimately to be done, but it would have been so much better without communist input..., in South Africa and Namibia.
Keeping communism itself away from our country was our vital achievement, our successful Vietnam.
@Colin-to1nv are you serious? Have you looked at the bantustans in the west Bank. Text book apartheid
Wow. You really have to admire the foresightedness and progressive way in which the black native people of South Africa navigated post apartheid. Instead of doing the logical thing which is to run out your conquerer and oppressor & see what you can do from there. But they actually decided to try and perform what really is a historical miracle. They chose to fix the world as they found it. I commend the patience of the South African people who are genuinely participating in their democratic experiment. It's a beautiful expedition and the world is rooting for its success because it will prove that the world can work in a better way. Where people strive together for a shared greater good. I was there a few years back and the warmth & kindness of it's people touched me as a person who saw things as black and white. Which my experiences over there changed how I saw the world completely. Everybody was gracious, friendly, warm spirited. White, black...you name it. Very nice people. I hope that they can weed out the detractors & the racists and power forward with their beautiful experiment. We are watching with hope.
I’m seriously thankful for you right now Roy. we’re so out of touch with reality that it just nauseates me. I’ve learned so much from your lectures and hope to see more topics, but you’re one of my favorites to listen to on repeat at the moment
I am happy to see in South Africa all races that a good percentage of our citizens get a long with each other even with a different cultures. We do have a some bad elements. Our struggle with the ecomonic and breakdowns of infastructures has drawn us in some ways together and in discussions feel the same way on how difficult it is to live with it. May God continue to bless us even through our difficulties.
Not get along, they tolerate each other until they can get home and avoid them!
The western Cape will once again become independent. Fir many great reasons.
It's always a good day when Dr. C drops another lecture!
I am so thankful for these lectures and for the Dr's time in giving them. These are very valuable to me and I hope for those who appreciate the stark reality of our humanity .
It is really hard not to hear what has happened in south Africa and not immediately think about Palestinian people and what they are facing under apartheid regime in thier homeland 🍉🍉,
They use the same arguments that the dutch, British used to day about natives in south africa and america, but truth will always prevail, #FreePalestine 🇵🇸 🇵🇸 ❤❤
I hear you talking about apples and I realise your talking about oranges
@ashleywebb2736 what exactly is tribbing you off, maybe my phrasing was a little weird, so please tell me I will try to explain, if you like ofcourse
And this is why our universities are such a shit show. Absolute rubbish. Area was very, very sparsely inhabited. When the Dutch settlers developed the area, many blacks moved in from the North because they Dutch and English were creating prosperity. South Africa today is a classic example of a failed state and it isn't because of your Dutch settlers. This grievance studies professor is a classic example of not having to live with his assumptions .
@ashleywebb2736 it is amazing how every place that colonial powers went was empty , the Americans, Caribbeans, Palestine, India, east indies, every place was empty, even if it was what give you the right to colonise a place remove its people and then enslave them steal thier resources then build a powerful economy because it is build on slaves aka sheap labor , then complain when these people get some of thier wealth back
@ashleywebb2736 there are still powerdul people working against the South African project. Bell Pottinger showed us this.
But what I know is that my children have endless possibilities available to them. Opportunities that I didn't have, that my siblings didn't have, and that my parents didn't have. My parents had their land taken away from them, my siblings had traumas thrown at them at school and their friends were dragged off to jail. So I'm glad we don't live in the old South Africa.
I wish there was a Roy Casagranda for every subject. Sensational education. So much passion and knowledge
thank you sir , may God bless you and your family . Always a pleasure listening to you
Thank you for an informative lecture Dr Casangranda, you jave a marvelous gift to tell a story so fluently 😊
How is Dr . Casagranda blessing us with so many lectures this year?
It's a blessing to loose braincells
@@Lebo901 What do you disagree with?
Very informative, as a young South African born in the mid 80s, I appreciate this type of lectures to educate us about the history of our country. Truly appreciated, I have hope that the people of Palestine will be free, God is for us all, may he heal the dark hearts of the oppressors, may He open their eyes and let them see that no human being is less than the other, for we are all children of the most high. Peace be unto the world. Free Palestine 🇪🇭🇪🇭🇪🇭
“When you’re isolated like that, how do you get the worlds attention without violence?
The world didn’t care when your children got massacred. The world didn’t care at all until you fought back”
How am I just now learning about this man? I've been binging these lectures for the past few days.
2 lectures in under a month? You spoil us Doctor!
As a South African living in SA, there some parts of our history I didn't know and learned through this lecture
Shout out to camera man for not losing his touch in following Dr Roy around!
An excellent recount the history of my country from a western view point.
I will not lie, hearing it cuts so very deep. What is mostly worrying is the inequallity, denial and injustice that still continues. It's truely heartbreaking.
I wish I could experience a live in person Lecture of Dr. Roy Casagrand. Fascinating, interesting, educational as always.
@xanpankarmelwho cares? Don't ruin the comment section.
From what I have witnessed during 90’s and being taught with our history you have make it more interesting with this critical information. Bravo Prof.
As a South African growing up in the apartheid era, I've learned more in this lecture than in all of my history lessons in school. I am not surprised why this was not taught in schools.
This was taught in schools during history lessons...that was in the 80' though...if you are younger I don't know what your guys history curriculum entailed
It's a shame😢
Sure u did 😂
@@MeisiekindYes, I'm certain you're right. I am just young enough to have missed my turn for that full coverage at school, in high school.
My younger cousins experienced a very, very watered down coverage of history.
You learnt what he told you, not necessarily the truth, he doesn’t know what the hell he’s talking about..
As a South African, best interpretation I have seen, just one important error and one omission, which has been important and different to any post segregation country globally. 70% of South Africa's land is owned by government. It is important to discuss affirmative action in South Africa today, which means that any company with 51 or more people has to be 51% Black owned and the fastest growing demographic is the middle class Black today. A far cry from the American solution, I use the term solution very losely.
Where did you get your stats? Fron Enerst Root of Afriforum neh??😅
@@MotlokwaThwiiwhich part? Most of that is from various government gazettes over the last 20+ years. The black middleclass has been the fastest growing class since back in 2007 during Mbeki's presidency. As for the Affirmative Action... Literally current law.
@@e.vil88 So you too think 70% of SA's land is owned by government?
And this information is gazetted? Do you know what the gazette is for?
@@MotlokwaThwiiWow I am actually surprised by tht. 70% of farmland is owned by whites and yet people still want to cry about land ownership. No wonder this country is going to kak
Go read.....on the apartheid government administration
Another video so quick? Lucky us! Thank you much Dr. Casagranda love all ur videos
I never was interested in History until I came across of Dr. Casagranda few years ago. Thank you for uploading his lectures and making knowledge available for the rest of the world Austin School.
This channel deserves millions views.
Great analysing by Dr Roy Casagranda.
As a South African, thank you for this Dr. Casagranda. So many missing details they skipped in school. I learnt alot.
Very good lecture.
His story is accurate enough. He leaves out a large part of the South African history dealing with the “conquerors” that moved in from the north. That is OK? That is not OK?
I do take exception to being called a thief and a conquerer when the first of my family arrived in Africa in 1752 and married his slave who arrived in South Africa a bit earlier than that, as a slave from Batavia.
Interesting enough I, on the other hand, learned most of this history at school in South Africa mixed in with own experience and reading before I entered university.
This is a biased lecture. To the uneducated he seems correct but do more studying you will see this is not as correct as he would like to make it seem. He’s likely never even stepped foot on the continent.
@@JohanThiartI agree with you, as my comment below says he is biased. This is just a hating lecture on white people. He clearly has “white guilt” and thinks trashing us is the way to make himself feel better. He clearly doesn’t understand our people. Speaks nothing of the Bantu genocides committed by the Zulu tribes as they moved south from the Congo just 40-60 years prior to the Europeans arriving.
@@Alex-ze2ii he does know his subject though.
There is a subtle “anti colonialism” or a bit tongue in the cheek in his lecture.
I think it may well be tongue in the cheek because he uses in other lecture too.
@@JohanThiart he knows what he wants to know. No mention of the first Boer war? But only talks about how the British “destroyed the boers” in the second war? Inconsistencies in the Great Trek. No mention of the Bantus moving down and slaughtering the Koi San.
Hello profesor i haven’t even seen the video but i already know im going to be blown away thank you in advance
P.s im still waiting for the palistinian isreal conflict history talk i know ive asked a 100 times now going on 101 lol
Amazing lecture, condensing such a long period of history in less than two hours yet providing so many details
Hopefully Palestine also will get its freedom lead by its resistance! Big Thanks for the lecture
Im absolutely hooked on these, thank you Dr Casagranda
How to talk about Palestine indirectly. Bravo Roy ❤ Free Palestine 🇵🇸
Dear Dr. Roy Casagranda, a lecture start with Woe! and your lecture made me 6 times burst to cry, though, truth to be revealed of which the best value for healing from erroneous. Dicisively and imperfectly perfect description over it, in which has much of meaning you have described and deliver the Apartheid of South Africa to simplified; " The hypocratic land' and indeed, the end of your lecture has sublime of deep philosophical message , and..." Truth and Reconcilliation" method to end your lecture, that is start from Woe and end with Weow!Thank you. Yoo Kang
There was a famous pencil test which is ridiculous to think about now. A govt rep would put a pencil in a person's hair. If it slipped down, they could classify as white ( if they had a light enough complexion of course), if it stayed in, they were coloured. Big brains behind that test, obviously...
Incredible. Smh.
I know people where two sisters were put into different races. So they were not actually allowed to stay in the same area.
I think the real reason behind the timing of this precious lecture is clear. 2 birds with one stone. I wish you strength and good fortune professor. Awaiting the next one.
Ps. Glad the leg is okay.
This man gives me hope for humanity.
As a Xhosa man from South Africa, eMthatha
1. Xhosa nation were also at the cape and were described by the settlers to have a darker skin. We hunted, but we farmed. Every man had kraal to keep his cows and goats and together with the women and children the field was ploughed and planted.
2. Coloured are accepted as same by Africans, you can read Born a Crime by Trevor Noah
No black men was not seen for 150 years after 1652. I read Trevor Noah`s book. It was mosty about his own criminal tendencies to survive
Cape Town is a treacherous environment, windy, cold, sandy soil... No one lived in Cape Town in high numbers coz it wasn't a nice place to live in, especially for grazing livestock.
Xhosa people would never leave beautiful coastal places to go starve in the Cape, also why are you referencing Trevor Noah's book, Trevor is a mixed breed with a Swiss German white father. His entire routine in SA was 90 % shytting on black people.
Many people of colour (coloured people) in the Cape are descendants of the Khoi. The categorization by racist rulers were unclear due to the slightly lighter skin of the khoi. Additionally, labeling them as 'coloured' could potentially erase their connection to the Khoi heritage.
@@sandrajansevanvuuren7891 Khoi and San people are black Africans
There were Xhosa people in the Cape, the foreigners Dutch settlers couldn’t differentiate their click language from other groups. You people will never dictate to us our history silly non Africans
The xhosa moved down to the cape as they were at war with the zulu. They killed the Khoi in droves and stole their animals. The Khoi were considered protected under apartheid. I'm 53yr old born and raised in South Africa. As for the coloured they were anyone with one white parent and one African parent. Anyone with brown skin of ambiguous lineage. In the same category was the malay, Indian and most South Asians. There were codes on the ID's in the last three numbers 00x, the x being from 1 to 8. I was listed as 007, which meant coloured with a European father as was my mother, even though we were all light skinned. As for Natal it was either Dias that gave the name after passing the cape, which he named the cape of storms and eventually had good weather near what is natal on Christmas, thus the name.
Excellent lecture, comes at a very good time, I wish you can do this same topic about another country. But if you did that maybe you'd get cancelled. Love your work and what you said about hell at the start. God bless sir.
My mother was South African - and I was born in 1950 and remember all the family discussions as I grew up. Ive subsequently worked and had holidays in the Cape but never knew the history so clearly explained. He's brilliant. NB I worked in Cape Town during apartheid
I guess if you want to keep your job you're allowed to talk about South Africa apartheid and not the Israeli one yet I don't think you did this one right now by coincidence and it's your way to remind us how terrible is this kind of regime so thank you ❤❤
Thank you Doctor, I wish all educators were as passionate as you. Putting this out for free for us to watch is such a treasure.
I really like your lectures Professor Roy, I even replayed half of them. I really wish you would go on Joe Rogan’s podcast, you’ll make a great episode!
The man is gifted in history lessons whenever I watch him I get inspired and somehow he centres my thoughts in a very beautiful way
I think someone as intelligent as yourself will come around after years doing an episode on the aparthied state of Israel, and the suffering of the paslistinan people. I think we want to see an episode on palistine done by you, but I am afraid we have to wait to see the outcomes of history that will unflod in that region. Great episode!
So great to hear facts and not assumptions! I learnt so much today! Thank you for taking the immense effort of research and the extra time to verbalise!
I wish he'll do the history of the Israeli-Palestine conflict. This is very relevant in today's events and is gripping the whole world.
It took/takes over five teachers and lecturers on a span of six years for me to comprehend what this guy presented in this one video, for many Southas not just me by the way hence takes❤just amazing lecturer this man is. Respect ls earned sir❤
At 35 minutes, I realized Gaza is the first place in history to be both a Concentration Camp and a Death Camp and the West Bank lives in Apartheid.
Concentration camps where started in South Africa. It was also a primer of what the Nazis did to the Jews.. Media just didn't like to make a scene about it
South Africa’s homicide statistics are extremely grim. Over 27,000 people were murdered from April 2022 to March 2023. Isn't that a "Death Camp"? And who must we blame? I am sure you will find someone to blame, and it won't be the people doing the murdering.
While you're at it, 45000 people are killed by gun violence in the US every year.
Are we going to call it a death camp, too? No. A death camp is a systematic prison camp created by a government for political prisoners or prisoners of war, in which many die from poor conditions and treatment or from mass execution.
This definition fitted Auschwitz in Germany, Serbian/Bosnian death camps, and other evil places in history, and it does fit Gaza since October 7.
And the definitions you're using for these are what exactly and from where?
57:30 how modest this man is ?
He lectures history from all over the world from beginning of time to now with details and know couple of languages
But still get embarrassed getting out sheet for the exact date of sth
Love you Dr. Roy ❤😂
Free Palestine. Free Palestine.
FROM HAMAS ALREADY FREE FROM THE ONE WHO WAS, WIPED OUT IN IRAN 😮
so amazing how he summarizes our history, this is what all kids of races must be taught to find each other. thank u
Also segregation did not start with Apartheid in 1948. Segregated policies were implemented way before 1948 by various administrations that governed the various parts of Southern Africa. What did happened in 1948 was that many of the segregated policies were codified into law and implemented with vigour by the Apartheid government.
Absolutely amazing. I actually cried at one point. As a South African, amongst the first to go to a mixed race school (still a minority though) so much has been left out of our history. Gosh I love South Africa
#Free Palestine
I hear the voice of professor from 50 years in the future in my head, saying, 'They massacred 30,000 people while the Western world just watched and even aided them. Isn't that cool?'
The history is right in front of us.
51 Muslim countries are quiet too 😢
Many leaders in Muslim countries are just puppets of Western powers
@@K_Super999 Many leaders in Muslim countries are just puppets of Western powers
@@K_Super999 Many leaders in Muslim countries are just puppets of Western powers
A bit of nuance here: The Dutch went to South Africa (Cape Town) to establish there a foothold for their commercial ships travelling from Europe to the Indies, and back. It was the last place where ships could re-supply, change crews etc. after a already 3 month journey. And another 2 to 3 months ahead of them.
That they intended to take that land for free, yes. That was the norm at the time.
However, if the goal was just to take free land for the sake of taking free land, they could have found it closer to home.
First commander in Cape Town, Jan van Riebeeck, outlawed the enslavement of indigenous KhoiSan people. And the VOC resolved not to colonise.
The British colonised the Cape in 1806.
Dr Casagrandas lectures should be shown in schools he would increase people's curiosity and iterest in history politics and culture by orders of magnitude.
The 350 years history of my country in under two hours. As an informed teacher myself, he’s really informed
Becareful of this Americans
He is informed but he has his own biases.
He correctly differentiates "coloured" between his and our sides of the pond; yet, being racial is vital to one's own identity, so curbing racism is its own issue: the lines must be held distinct!
@@Lebo901yep, you might learn something 😂
I stumbled upon your lectures from the free Palestine hashtag, and I haven't stopped watching. I'm a South African who grew up in Soweto. It's so refreshing to listen to this lecture because there were a few things I didn't know or taught in school. My mother was 16 in '76 and told me a lesser known march to John Foster Square a few months after the 16th June. Anyway, I'm definitely sharing this lecture. I'm still watching, but if you could share more on the relationship between the South African Apartheid government and Israel in terms of training and allyship as well as the ANCs vocal support of Palestine then and now.
I can’t wait for a lecture on Palestine 🇵🇸
Thank you for all you do and educating us on truth about historical facts.
Great lecture from the professor. As a South African, I think this was a nicely condensed depiction of what happened during the formation of South Africa. The truth is that there was so much more that took place from 1948 to 1990 that one cannot simply fit in into a 2-hour lecture. I thoroughly enjoyed it.
Dr, start by the 1853 event involving Karl Marx in person, which led the British occupiers to institute apartheid back then. Their illegal 1806 invasion took away civil liberties, suffrage, freedom of association and they were first to put segregation (apartheid) on a constitution. They then went on to kill 48,000 women, children and elderly in concentration camps, just as they wiped out 20 000 blacks in such camps. They invaded and colonised South Africa just like Putin invaded Ukraine. Britain invaded countless countries around the globe and oppressed millions "for their protection."
They should have been protected against the Englishmen!!
But the Afrikaners/Cape Dutch were cleverly blamed.
In fact, apartheid was only a racial issue because the pro-communists were all black.
Apartheid fought atheist communism, not skin colour.
Racists in South Africa 🇿🇦 today aren't the whites.
YOU are my HERO! At least ONE other voice of sanity in a world gone mad! Please see my comment as well. Well done for the courage!
My goodness! Dutch SAns are never gonna admit their invasion of native lands nor their apartheid. 😮
Ok. You don’t actually know what you are talking about, and I’ll prove it.
There are no DUTCH people who invaded native lands here.
The Dutch who invaded native lands on 16 April 1652 (Jan Van Riebeeck), did so with three ships, the “Reiger”, the “Dromedaris” and the “Goede Hoop”. Even though he and the majority of the crew were Dutch and had sailed out of Malasia. Their Shipping Company, “Vereenigd Oos-Indiese Companje” (United East Indian Company), was a Tea-company, owned in majority by Britain. Their assignment (by the British) was to establish a trading post at Cape Town.
The Dutch thus - under assignment by Britain - “invaded native land”, with 50 Malaysian slaves on board.
The ONLY indigenous people to South Africa at that stage were the “Hottentot” (Dutch collective name) or actually San and Xoi Bushman, and a mysterious race calling themselves Griequa. NONE of these tribes were originally from the Cape area. The Bushmen were from the Kalahari Desert in the northern Cape, and the Griequa were mainly from an area around the northern Eastern Cape.
THERE WERE NO INDIGENOUS BLACK NATIONS IN SOUTH AFRICA THEN!
In 1807, the Dutch withdrew from the Cape and were replaced by the British, who took over their slaves, in accordance with the 1796 treaty
NOT knowing how to farm and being too lazy to learn, the Brits imported European farmers from France, Germany, Belgium, Holland, Scotland and Ireland, on the promise of land for free.
These farmers did their own work - they did NOT have slaves - the ONLY slaves around belonged to the Brits.
To be able to communicate efficiently, these farmers established a common “kitchen language”, made up of words borrowed from all of the different cultures there.
When the Brits did their normal thing and taxed these farmers to death, a group of them decided to leave the Cape, and head Northward, inland.
This group became known as the “Voortrekkers” (pioneers). And NO! They did NOT INVADE ANYBODY’s land. At that stage, NOBODY owned the land. They WERE however later attacked several times by the “Mfecane”, the Zulu war-scouts, coming from the north-east coastline.
The leader of these pioneers, a man by the name of Piet Retief, even went to the then Zulu king, and “BOUGHT” all the land east of the Tugela River from him, for a certain number of cattle. This “sale” was NOT in respect of the land, but for the sake of being left in peace in this area. This same Zulu king, “Dingaan”, then - after having left his mark on the “deed of sale”, pushed Retief off the mountain, killing him.
In the meantime, the kitchen-language had evolved and been given a name - Afrikaans. NOT DUTCH!
During their trek across the country, the pioneers discovered alluvial gold and diamonds. The Brits heard of this, and went on a kill-mission.
They burned ALL farms to the ground, towed women and children in chains and ropes to concentration camps, where they were raped, murdered or starved to death. All simply because they wanted to take control of the wealth.
Where do you think Hitler got HIS clever ideas from?
And if you don’t believe this is true, go and look at the history of Britain’s colonisation of the world. They have done exactly this same thing EVERYWHERE.
So, now tell me… If you DON’T actually know what you are talking about, and you seem to think it is YOUR RIGHT to sit and criticise from OUTSIDE of the country, but all YOU see is RACE, WHO is REALLY the racist?
But the reason narrow-minded, opinionated idiots choose to blame the Afrikaans people, is because of one stupid, propagandised word… “APARTHEID”…
But you DON’t even know what it means or where it comes from… so let me help you. From the ORIGINAL setup in the Cape, the Brits tried to keep the different cultures of farmers SEPARATE.
The word for “BEING SEPARATE” in Dutch, German and Flemish (Belgian) is “APARTHEID”. Look it up in a dictionary, NOT a political reference-book.
The Afrikaners (NOT DUTCH) simply wanted to be left alone. But NOW, several HUNDREDS of years later, they STILL have to be chastised by stupid people who are too lazy to do research and find the real facts… they’d rather just regurgitate someone else’s misguided work or opinion…
NOT very “clever”.
@@stephen-templar Is there a reason y'all Dutch South Africans are so dead set against accepting history as it is?!? Y'all are constantly trying to rewrite history. You are the only group of people who believe these lies so why not just stop already. Cause this is getting pathetic.
Very true. Unfortunately the history of South Africa is told from an Afro-marxist point of view. They don't like facts and one just has to look at the state of South Africa today to see who the real racists are.
There's definitely a reason why he gave this speech especially during the current political climate we're in now. It helps to clarify a lot and I'm seeing a pattern that is repeating that from this knowledge of the pattern, we will stop from repeating.
As a South African, in school we never got a detailed history on Apartheid. i just wanted to thank you xxx
Great presentation, clear and concise
This is why the natives want their land back right now.
Zimbabwe got sanctioned for taking their land. The country is a mess today because of injustice...🔥
Clearly this man conquered our hearts
Such great storytelling, thank you for this, love from South Africa 🇿🇦 💪🏽