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I have a 2TB Kingston KC3000 in my current PC right now. I was looking at the Kingston NV2 too, but the TBW was so much lower than the KC3000 that I felt like it was worth a few $10 more, the much higher speed was just a bonus. I'm thinking of getting a cheap 1TB gen 3 SSD for my second slot (I've got a B550 motherboard). And I have a 1TB Kingston KC3000 in my PS5.
running a Kingston NV2 1TB as bootdrive (aswell as games i actually play) and a 1TB Seagate Baracuda 3,5" for storage (until i can get my hands on a larger M.2 SSD (4TB+) for a good price)
@@naomy1701 I went with a 970Evo Plus 1TB to exchange with my older 500GB WD Black NVME M.2. I will use it as storage, but in the not too distant future my Seagate 2TB Baracuda will be semi retired (relegated as backup storage externally). I no longer want mechanical hard drives in my systems. Luckily we are approaching the point I can ditch them.
Really appreciate you going in depth explaining on these pc parts not lotta pc builder go this far in depth my pc mess up a while ago and iv been looking up info and your one of the best i found so far stay blessed friend appreciate you bro
nvme storage is really one of the best things to happen to PC building. No cables for power or data. Small and when hidden under a cover, just adds to a very clean build. I love them.
@@pavelstoikov3780 2tb is the perfect price to capacity size right now. unless you are constantly reading and writing massive files to and from that SSD (which a consumer is not) you are not gonna take an nvme drive to its throttling temp for long enough during its TBW lifespan. It's likely that the drive's capacity will become obsolete (ie 4 or 8Tb drives will be the new sweet spot) long before heat or data writes kill it, as long as you get a reasonably good one like samsung, sabrent, crucial etc. basically no. the temp is fine. just play the games and enjoy life.
yeah.. except if you want to run several SSDs and a sound card and are now often even more restricted in the amount of available PCIe-slots for all the components...
The greatest change you will see is booting the OS, the feeling when you press the button and no longer have time to do chores is amazing. On gaming you will see a difference if you have an adventure game where you teleport to different maps back and forth. It is also great when verifying files after a big update. It is an overall happier life but not as incredible as cpu/gpu update.
Finally someone tells everything as it is. If you already have a good SATA SSD, there is no need to pay for NVME unless you can get it for very cheap. A normal user and gamer will hardly even notice the difference. Of course, NMVE is attractive because of the cleaner aesthetics of PC. I personally bought a Kingston NVME 1TB for 30 euros, which was a very good price, so let me say right away that the difference between SATA and SSD is very small (2 seconds boot and 1-2 seconds when opening games), nothing I couldn't live without
Yes if you already have one, if you're only starting with SSDs or already have M.2s installed, there's no reason to get a SATA one unless you run out of M.2 slots. I'm kinda pissed that I have to get a SATA SSD for additional storage because they're more expensive and I have no more M.2 slot 😂.
My twin grandsons recently ran out of storage space on the PCs I built for them over a year ago. Both had 1TB NVMe SSDs which cost around $100 apiece at the time. Imagine my surprise when I came across a PCIe 3x4 3000 MB/sec 2TB drive that cost only $69!I immediately got two of them to replace the old drives, clones the old systems with Macrium / Acronis, kids got immediate benefits and no difference in performance. Now I’m thinking of getting a 4TB version for $170. 😂
Those 2tb would have made a perfect second drive 100% for game storage. Migrating games with EA/Origin & Steam is easy. At this point I would put the 1tb back in as secondary game storage. I just prefer a smaller OS boot drive and big game drive as you have less OS to back up if you separate OS/Apps and game storage.
@@45eno That's how I do it too. I'm using like C: WIN 95GB on 1TB 980 Pro While 1.5Tb of a 2TB 970 EVO as D: I don't want too much to worry about if I have to reinstall or clone an OS drive... But, I hate having to take off my Cooler for it, though.
Be careful with the Silicon Power A80. Not sure if you are familiar with the recent part swaps done by SP. It used to be a good drive but now comes with very cheap parts like the controller was switched, DRAM swap ect. I did a build with it recently and had to return it because of the constant corruptions of my files. That definitely could explain the massive price drop we've seen for the drive and why its so cheap now.
The Silicon Power A55 will perform well at first, but after 2-3 months use, the write speed will drop dramatically. At first, read and write speeds were both around 400 MB/s, but within 3 months, all 4 of the SSDs I bought had all dropped their write speed to below 100 MB/s. The read speed did not drop. I tried reformatting them to see if their write speed would return to normal, but it did not. I've never had that happen with any other brand I've used. Jason, I really wish you would test these SSDs to see if they hold up over time, or if their write speed drops like the ones I was using.
One SSD I don't see mentioned much but has a good price is the Silicon Power UD90. It's a Gen 4 drive with good speeds and right now is only $45 for 1TB and only $90 for a 2TB.
Second post, if you are a gamer running new triple A titles get the 2 TB drive! One TB fills up really fast, even if you just use your system for small games and watching online streams a 1tb drive will start to fill up to 400gb just from OS updates etc.
Sorry for my English, it's not my native language and I'm translating as best I can. Perhaps it would have been useful to make a summary table for both speed/price and "writing resistance"/price. Not all models on sale in general have decent values, while only some have very high values, hence also some price differences. Of the 1TB models the declared values are: Samsung 980 Pro has 600 TBW, Sabrent Rocket NVMe 4.0 1800 TBW (which makes it stand out above all the others), WD SN850X 600TBW, Crucial P5 Plus 600TBW, Silicon Power P34A80 800TBW, Samsung 970 Evo Plus 600TBW.
I have 17.25tb of NVMe between all my systems and honestly the SN570 is my favorite bang for buck. I have 4tb of gen4 speed drives in my main rig but they give me nothing more than what my sn570’s give me for game loading. The sn570 is faster full of data than my older dram equipped gen3 drives like a sx8200. Going forward only buy 2tb or bigger as m2 slots are limited. Boot drives of course can be smaller like 500gb. Sn770 is a worthy buy if not much more than a sn570. Both are extremely good value when using for game storage and not professional media use.
I agree that the typical home computer no longer requires traditional hard drives, but if you are like me and require a lot of storage that is quickly accessible, running traditional hard drives in a Raid or NAS is still the better way to go when it comes to the amount of storage and overall cost. Spinning discs will be with us for a long time yet.
The Teamgroup Cardea Zero Z440 (graphene or not), not to be confused with the DRAM-less Z44L, solid gen 4 option as well. ~5GB/s seq. reads, ~4GB/s seq. writes, 1GB DRAM cache for the 1TB version, Kioxia flash, 1800 TBW threshold, 5-year warranty, and it has been around the $53-55 range recently, instead of the $60+ from last year. The other thing to consider is drive longevity. QLC is said to wear down faster than TLC, so it tends to be recommended as a mass storage drive rather than a boot drive (more reads than writes). Personally I'd still go with a drive equipped with DRAM cache as my boot drive, and grab a DRAM-less one for extra storage, especially for old SATA builds that can't accomodate an NVME due to lack of PCIE lanes. Currently using a Crucial MX500 as a boot drive for an old system that I unfortunately bought right before the massive dip in SSD prices (from $70 back in January, down to $50 as of right now), but it pretty much gave extra life to a near-decade old system. I'll be upgrading to that Cardea Zero Z440 in the near future, though.
I've gone with 1TB & 2TB SN770. Middle of the road price but good performance, beating many of the expensive drives in some metrics. Also 5 year warranty from a good manufacturer.
Yep, I often point this out to people. In real world tests (Check TechPowerUp's SSD reviews) the SN770 will punch above its weight class. I've got a 1 terabyte SN770 myself. A good choice if you want to save some money for similar performance.
My first SSD in a computer was a 128 GB OCZ Vertex III in the machine I built 12 years ago. I installed the OS on it and had additionally two 2 TB HDD (as they had the best value by that time) which I put into a RAID 0 array.
Black Friday prices were mostly the same as in this video presented 6 months earlier! I noticed that early in October most big online retailers raised their prices across the board for all drives and then for Black Friday advertised as deals select products with old pricing. I am talking about 500gb-2tb drives both NVME and SATA. I bought the Samsung EVO 870 SATA SSD 1tb for $59.00 minus $5.00 Black Friday coupon, total $54.00. Also bought a Crucial T500 newly released NVME drive, very competitively priced, likely the best deal of Black Friday, $64 for 1Tb with heatsink included. 2Tb was for $102 no heatsink. Generally speaking prices for common sized drives of premium brands did not budge much since the time of your recording. Thanks for the video, was very useful for price comparison. I hear from a lot of people that on most merchandise there weren't many real deals this year.
We track prices all year (in spreadsheets in our monthly GPU/CPU market update videos if you want to check those out) so we are able to post actual deals when we see them! Keep an eye on our community page here on youtube or follow us on twitter/threads @pcbuilderjason for those (:
I went with a 2TB crucial p5 plus since I found it on sale. SSDs admittedly are an area of weakness in my knowledge, but I felt pretty good about that one. I was mostly just stoked that I did a new build and didn't plug in a single sata cable. The future is here
@@CaptainScorpio24 It's seemed perfectly good for my needs. Admittedly I'm not doing that much read/write since the most strenuous thing I do on my PC is gaming. I would guess in your case just shop across all of the gen 4 drives with DRAM and grab whatever size you need that's the best price.
hey, know you made this comment 5 months ago, but was just curious how this SSD was holding up for you? I am about to build a new computer and was looking at the very high end SSDs like the western digital sn850x, but after seeing this video I am thinking I probably dont need to get that since the main thing I will be doing on it is gaming (with some computer programming and development for work). Just curious how you find the SSD 5 months after the fact. and in terms of gaming if you don't mind me asking, what games do you primarily play?
I agree with yo9u entirely - BUT... (there's always a BUT!) Most of us have old drives laying around. I am currently on a 2TB Nvme, 4x640GB Barracudas, 70TB external USB 3 drives. My point being... if you have old drives rattling around - use them. Will the game load faster with an Nvme? HELL YEAH!!! But... if you're will to wait a few seconds more.... that old Seagate will be just fine...
This is a good and fairly comprehensive video from the market perspective and looking at options for different people. Where I think you can do better is less focus on sustained sequential writes and reads, which I fully understand the manufacturers try to push down our throats, and instead focus on QD1 random access performance. This is what is going to matter for the vast majority of users when comparing drives.
Except he ignores HDD completely which can be better option for some. Stuff like less chance of data corruption. And because SSD's uses electricity to stare data, if you leave your SSD laying around for like a year or so, it can lose all of it's data
@@geraldauguste3044 It can happen. Of course it will depend on the manufacturer and the components being used so the variety can be from one year to like 25 years. Just power your SSD from time to time, better be safe than sorry, right? Although you should have multiple backups of your important files anyway
for SPP(silicon power SSDs) for gaming it's probably fine, but be aware SP has been bait n switch recently, I recently purchased large batch of their SSDs, with various controller( some good, some really really really bad), and both TLC and QLC Nand were mixed within same models, this applies to both A60 and UD90; on top of that contacting SP via official email has no reply in one week(still no reply) and live chat simply does not work. I had both SPP A60 and UD90 having realtek controller(oppose to good phison), and QLC nand. The performance is less half than what they advertise, even worse, when SLC cache ran out(6~60GB) the SLC cache recovers extremely slow, and the sustained sequential read and write drops to 180~250MB, most of the time sequential read is not affected, but under some cases read will also throttle due to low quality controller. so strongly recommend to stay away unless you know what are getting yourself into.
You no longer see a need for a HDD for mass storage? Wow... I still use and need my mass storage... I have over 16TB of HDD storage for my personal PC.
@@PCBuilderChannel I do my own content library of sorts, mostly family pics, emulator and game archives, music... plus the occasional backup of things here and there. It's an epic mess but $250 for 16TB HDD vs $250 for 4TB SSD is a value proposition for my use. Now, I can't say I don't dream of getting one of those M.2 SOHO SAN appliances... but cheap magnetic disks just have too much capacity. I really wished I could get JBOD for M.2, SATA, SD... but that is getting a bit ridiculous. When the zombie apocalypse happens... I am going to be jamming tunes and playing games in a literal cave under a rock somewhere as I pedal on a generator or stage a guerilla power gen solution. With a meat grinder for a front door. I will be doing humanity a huge favor!
After all these years I look more at warranty's and the hard drive software quality or if it even has one like WD and Samsung do. Keeps your drive uptodate and also makes cloning headache free when going from build to another.
Just buy the intel 670p 2 tb for $79 if you need direct storage or pcie gen 4 or one for a ps5 get the Solidigm P44 2tb $149 and use the Solidigm nvme driver for both. For sata 2.5 inch SSD just get any Samsung SSD. If you want bulk storage a mechanical hard drive will only be slightly slower than a Dram less SSD.
Bought 1TB Intel 670p for 42$ month ago and so far it was excellent for the price. It's QLC with DRAM and Solidigm own custom driver that provides a better experience than generic windows driver. For me personally, it's a better choice than A60 as a budget option for system/game drive because it has DRAM. Alternatively I'd pick certified refurbished EVO 970 for 38$ from Best buy, but they disappear so fast after restocking, I never fast enough to order 😅
I ended up getting the 970 for $38 plus a 5$ coupon. It ended up having 98 GBs written on it already, which isn't too bad. Hoping this thing lasts me for 10 years 😬
@@kotztotz3530 yeah as many people posted on reddit those "geek certified" 970 are basically open box returns, after through testing, almost as new. I just wish they had more in stock for that price, lol.
@@kotztotz3530 Not supposedly, it is. They sold the storage division to Hynix and the result is solidigm and hynix nvme ssd's (m.2 and u.2). I guess they are more known in the enterprise since I almost never see them mentioned on the consumer side.
Only reason i dont like nvmes is because my setup is so ungodly complicated, and it requires putting my entire pc on the floor to even add/replace them. I wish they were hot swappable like sata. Like i can just turn the psu off, take the front glass off, and pretty much just plug it in. No screws, no real hassle on my part
I have this in my budget in India. Under or around 6k. Western Digital WD Blue SN580 Western Digital WD Black SN770 Crucial P3 1TB PCIe 3.0 3D NAND NVMe M.2 SSD Seagate Barracuda Q5 SSD 1TB up to 2400 MB/s Western Digital WD Green SN350 NVMe 1TB, MSI M371 1TB PCIe Gen3x4 NVMe M.2 2280 3D NAND Western Digital WD Blue SA510 M.2 1TB TEAMGROUP T-Force Cardea Zero Z440 1TB NVMe MSI M461 1TB PCIe Gen4x4 NVMe 1.4 M.2
Great video, Jason and team! The step up from an HDD to an SSD really is amazing. I have an SN550 main drive, and I think I'm going to add a Silicon Power A60 as a second drive. The price seems to drop $1-2 every day, though, so I haven't pulled the trigger yet.
I was a huge fan of Samsung SSDs since my first 830. Then got the 840, 850, 860. So far all good. Then I went with 2 970 EVO Plus and 1 980 Pro. All my NVME broke in less than 6 months. Bad luck? Don't know. I'm since on WD SN750 Gen3 and SN770 Gen4 working flawlessly. Needless to say they are cheaper as well. Don't know, man.
were you downloading and deleting vigorously? did you have a heatsink on those samsung nvme ssd's? im really thinkg about getting a samsung 2tb 980 pro
Very useful video. I think SSD choices are one of the more overlooked topics when it comes to PC building. When I was shopping for my last SSD, I found that the ones marketed toward PS5 users were really overpriced, but things seem to be more settled down now.
Just bought a Solidigm P44 Pro for €135, could have gotten the Kingston Fury Renegade 2tb for the same price, hope I made the right choice! Note: European prices so this is so good a price
It's a good choice but make sure you install their own improved Synergy driver (and update firmware while at it). Solidigm (formerly Intel SSD branch) engineer discussed driver improvements just last week ruclips.net/video/8YBeriMsDS0/видео.html
@@PCBuilderChannel They are the renamed intel storage division that intel sold off. The solidigm drives are the evolution of the intel 670p drives which were/are great drives
For games just buy crucial sata's SSD. Cheap as hell and games DON'T benefits from using nvme 90% of the time. NVME pice3.0 variant of that (4To) is 40-50bucks more expensive but you don't have cables to manage.
Traditional HDDs still play an important role in personal PC's simply because of their storage capacity of which a single NVME simply cannot offer. With traditional HDD's offering capacities from a mere 1TB to a whopping 20TB it is still a viable and a very attractive storage solution with prices to suit one's budget. Of course the smaller the capacity and the more basic the mechanics, the cheaper the drive. Regardless of NVME or SSD's having the slight edge over a traditional mechanical HDD with less physical real estate in a system build or promising blistering speeds than the latter, NVME will never be quite adequate enough for bulk storage purposes. Speed is simply not enough, add capacity to the format then there will be something to boast about.
Yeah, I bought a $25 Crucial 500GB Gen3 SSD today from Amazon for my Dell Inspirion 15! I remember they were riotously expensive and I set them aside until today.
Thank you so much for this educational video. I was stressing out trying to find DRAM SSDs online and when you said it didn't really matter if you were just gaming, that really changed my perspective on DRAM SSDs. I'll def save more cash going for DRAMless SSDs now. Thank you!!!
As scarce as they are, I'd be recommending a Samsung 970 Pro 1TB as an OS Drive if you are either limited to PCI-E 3.0 or if you are concerned about SSD longevity. Ditto for using the Corsair MP510 4TB for a gaming SSD. It's a shame, however, that I have yet to see more MLC-based NVME SSDs for PCI-E 4.0 or 5.0...
Minimum of 2 tb for most gamers imo. 1 tb will probably be ok if you know you're only going to install a couple of games. I've had 2 of the SP drives for 6 months. So far, so good. I just bought a 3rd one.
Indeed, memory prices has collapse hard! Wonder what caused this! I admit, when I switched form Hdd to SSD a couple of year back, my mind was blowned away at how fast everything was!
I'm so glad I found your channel, it has helped immensely in my latest build. You really helped me understand where to spend and where I can save and maintain performance.
cheeeeeeeeeers!!!! honestly awsome. i know ill NEVER tell the diference or ever go long enough to kill one or run into reliability issues cause im a casual AF, but mannnnnnnnn i wanna not have buyer remorse cause 50$ menas nothing to me, but having a 2tb boot drive in my new system there to stay for 5+ years is perfect. im coming from a system with a samsung 870 evo boot drive so its wild~ but still now im leaning samsung 990 pro because the price is almost identical for me at 140$ for 2tb, or ill just go with the SN770 from WD cause PERFECTION without dram tyyyyyyyyyyyy
You NEED a heatsink for WD SN850X. Even with heatsink from motherboard its temps is around 50C*. Without one I guess why are good to got for 60-70C*. I have one , Im delivering real numbers. But it is true - it is fast SSD gen4.
Now is a great time to build a great pc (buying used gpus is much better value than new) and storage and memory is dirt cheap for many models atm. I personally, even for a budget pc wouldn’t look under a 2TB NVME for the prices they’re currently at.
Love that it's working out well for you! Glad we could help you as you upgrade. Feel free to check out links to our recommendations in the description :)
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Just got a PCIE expansion card to swap all my files to my new build. Had I known about these speed boosts earlier I might have updated my old system. Now its just going to be an easier way to transfer everything onto a data drive. I went WD for my drives on this build Gen 4 for boot and storage. Got a spare Gen 3 for a backup drive to make sure my personal info doesn't get corrupted.
Finally bought one today and ended up going with 2TB Samsung 990 pro for only 5 dollars more than a 980 pro. Prices went back up I think it was 169 on Amazon for 2 tb and 165 for the 980 pro prices were lower a couple months ago.
Also how about a new video on gaming monitors? I need one. It’s criminal I spent close to $1500 building my pc and I’m playing it on an old 1080p 60hz monitor currently. My entire budget went into the build itself which isn’t entirely done needing the monitor, a new good keyboard and mouse setup, probably a new desk, and I’m going to need to replace my air cooler with a aio since it gets so hot in Alabama.
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I've seen enough boost my builds to know jason will recommend gen 3 m.2 ssd. Fast as anyone other than the absolute top productivity will need for the lowest $/gb. Can't wait to watch for specific recommendations and game console stats
Thanks for the insightful video! Curious why you haven't mentioned Samsung 990 Pro or SK hynix Platinum P41 drives? They are absolute best NVME drives and neck-and-neck with WD SN850X in terms of performance.
Thanks for explaining this! About to do a minipc build for emulation, and needed a 2.5 SSD. This helped a lot will snag whichever one is cheapest come prime day!
the best combo for most people are two SSDs. One 1TB drive as a splurge (WD Black 850x, Samsung 990, or Platinum P41) for $80 and a second 2TB drive on the value end for storage. I recommend the WD Black 770 but you can also look at Crucual drives, Corsair, or even the WD Blue.
For me the best combo is a 2tb SSD for my boot/day to day drive then a NAS full of the old fashioned spinners for longer term storage. I previously had a 512gb SSD that was OK for a while but then I ran out of space and started installing games onto the nas which did not work very well so I was forced into an upgrade (Laptop, single SSD spot no room for duel)
Haven´t finish the video yet, but man, really, really good explanations, this are so easy that even my mother would understand it, impresive, thanks for the hard work.
The 6700xt I thought was gone! Beautiful card. It is a speech for amateurs, but it is also the smallest card that you can find a liquid cooler for, if someone wants to build a small jewel worked to perfection, for the sake of doing it, or learn how to liquid cool without spending 4000 euros! I don't want to argue, but with similar prices the consoles has not a lot of meaning by comparison. With the 800 and 1500 dollars builds you can also face the passage of time and techs in all serenity. The 500 dollars build is more or less a ps5 or an Xbox price! But it is a complete computer! And even better in the videogames themselves! Ah ah ah ah ah! Can't believe! Fun great review!
The main reason I use a External SSD is due to ease of use.. Plug and play.. Seen no big difference in anything to justify changing even though it may be cheaper.. Bad things happen to me when I start removing Hard drives/storage whatever.. I rather plug into USB. I run all the latest Steam games with Zero issues having them play off my external drive.. I might Buy a few as a back up perhaps, load each one with a O/S.. But to to just swap out ya nope.. Thank you for the tip about cheap hard drive, I just might pick up a few for poops and giggles..
love the recommendations, ended up gettign a SN770 that im going to put in my chipset gen 3 port as a 2tb game stoarge drive, but your other recommendations were awsome! ive been so torn with obver spending or not on my new boot drtive since i cnaq run a gen 4 and will never know the difference, buuuuuut yeah 116$ for the crucial p5 plus was awsome for 2 TB ! dont need the speed but get all the sweetness of a quality dram gen 4 drive without gonig too crazy on things like SN850x or 980 pro or even 990 pro (same price as 980 pro) since i just literaly couldnt do anything with the extra value and i trust the reliability of the P5 for the next 5 years as my boot drive perfectlyyyyyyyyyyyyyy~ but hey........ 25$ is 25$ XD tbf ive over spent so heavily on my system and cheaped out on my gpu for a 7900xt at 700$ thats its wild. bout to have 400$+ of corsair link rgb lighitnig in this thing and its gonan be a new AM4 build of all things. wild times and i love pc hw and being a nerd and enthusiest hobbiest cheeeeeeeeeeeeeeers
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I have a 2TB Kingston KC3000 in my current PC right now. I was looking at the Kingston NV2 too, but the TBW was so much lower than the KC3000 that I felt like it was worth a few $10 more, the much higher speed was just a bonus. I'm thinking of getting a cheap 1TB gen 3 SSD for my second slot (I've got a B550 motherboard). And I have a 1TB Kingston KC3000 in my PS5.
Which one of these as a system boot drive for M.2 NVME?
running a Kingston NV2 1TB as bootdrive (aswell as games i actually play) and a 1TB Seagate Baracuda 3,5" for storage (until i can get my hands on a larger M.2 SSD (4TB+) for a good price)
@@naomy1701 I went with a 970Evo Plus 1TB to exchange with my older 500GB WD Black NVME M.2. I will use it as storage, but in the not too distant future my Seagate 2TB Baracuda will be semi retired (relegated as backup storage externally). I no longer want mechanical hard drives in my systems. Luckily we are approaching the point I can ditch them.
Really appreciate you going in depth explaining on these pc parts not lotta pc builder go this far in depth my pc mess up a while ago and iv been looking up info and your one of the best i found so far stay blessed friend appreciate you bro
nvme storage is really one of the best things to happen to PC building. No cables for power or data. Small and when hidden under a cover, just adds to a very clean build. I love them.
Agreed!
what about the temp on use ?
@@pavelstoikov3780 2tb is the perfect price to capacity size right now. unless you are constantly reading and writing massive files to and from that SSD (which a consumer is not) you are not gonna take an nvme drive to its throttling temp for long enough during its TBW lifespan. It's likely that the drive's capacity will become obsolete (ie 4 or 8Tb drives will be the new sweet spot) long before heat or data writes kill it, as long as you get a reasonably good one like samsung, sabrent, crucial etc.
basically no. the temp is fine. just play the games and enjoy life.
@@pavelstoikov3780no issue ever
yeah.. except if you want to run several SSDs and a sound card and are now often even more restricted in the amount of available PCIe-slots for all the components...
Man i missed out on buying at this prices. . .prices right now 2024 is 50% increased
1tb for 60€ 😭
damn yeah.. but back when i was building my pc that was the hard drive price so its still good ig
In your country maybe
Nice timing, this is my next gaming purchase. Running games off a spinny drive is not all that great.
unless they are 60gb+ its ok
Same wth how did this guy know I was watching these vids
You badly need an upgrade. I've been running SSD/NVME since about 2010. Biggest upgrade you can make.
@@AntiFurry927 I don't know why I find this so funny
The greatest change you will see is booting the OS, the feeling when you press the button and no longer have time to do chores is amazing. On gaming you will see a difference if you have an adventure game where you teleport to different maps back and forth. It is also great when verifying files after a big update. It is an overall happier life but not as incredible as cpu/gpu update.
Finally someone tells everything as it is. If you already have a good SATA SSD, there is no need to pay for NVME unless you can get it for very cheap. A normal user and gamer will hardly even notice the difference. Of course, NMVE is attractive because of the cleaner aesthetics of PC. I personally bought a Kingston NVME 1TB for 30 euros, which was a very good price, so let me say right away that the difference between SATA and SSD is very small (2 seconds boot and 1-2 seconds when opening games), nothing I couldn't live without
Yes if you already have one, if you're only starting with SSDs or already have M.2s installed, there's no reason to get a SATA one unless you run out of M.2 slots. I'm kinda pissed that I have to get a SATA SSD for additional storage because they're more expensive and I have no more M.2 slot 😂.
SATA and NVME*, presumably both are SSD
@zero59267 I got a 20tb SATA 3 off ebay for $130. You're wasting your money if you need storage going nvme. 😂
My twin grandsons recently ran out of storage space on the PCs I built for them over a year ago. Both had 1TB NVMe SSDs which cost around $100 apiece at the time. Imagine my surprise when I came across a PCIe 3x4 3000 MB/sec 2TB drive that cost only $69!I immediately got two of them to replace the old drives, clones the old systems with Macrium / Acronis, kids got immediate benefits and no difference in performance.
Now I’m thinking of getting a 4TB version for $170. 😂
I know it's crazy right? Really nice to see those prices dropping (:
Those 2tb would have made a perfect second drive 100% for game storage. Migrating games with EA/Origin & Steam is easy. At this point I would put the 1tb back in as secondary game storage. I just prefer a smaller OS boot drive and big game drive as you have less OS to back up if you separate OS/Apps and game storage.
you sound like a nice grandpa
Awesome grandpa!
@@45eno That's how I do it too. I'm using like C: WIN 95GB on 1TB 980 Pro While 1.5Tb of a 2TB 970 EVO as D: I don't want too much to worry about if I have to reinstall or clone an OS drive... But, I hate having to take off my Cooler for it, though.
Be careful with the Silicon Power A80. Not sure if you are familiar with the recent part swaps done by SP. It used to be a good drive but now comes with very cheap parts like the controller was switched, DRAM swap ect. I did a build with it recently and had to return it because of the constant corruptions of my files. That definitely could explain the massive price drop we've seen for the drive and why its so cheap now.
correct,i had the same problems with sp
I ordered 3 and 2 have already failed. LMAO!! Not buying silicon power again.
Sorry, I meant silicon power a60. I ordered 3 a60 2TB ones and two of them died
The Samsung 870 Evo drives are apparently also shitting the bed.
Yeah my A60 had terrible sustained write speed.
The Silicon Power A55 will perform well at first, but after 2-3 months use, the write speed will drop dramatically. At first, read and write speeds were both around 400 MB/s, but within 3 months, all 4 of the SSDs I bought had all dropped their write speed to below 100 MB/s. The read speed did not drop. I tried reformatting them to see if their write speed would return to normal, but it did not. I've never had that happen with any other brand I've used. Jason, I really wish you would test these SSDs to see if they hold up over time, or if their write speed drops like the ones I was using.
Same thing happened with me i was about to write a comment. Active time keeps going to 100% pc keeps freezing randomly.
I bought 2 years ago SP US70 write 30tb read 26tb ssd health %94.
I want to buy same ssd for my desktop but they dont sell anymore.
@@fr0sty1998I meed help finding a 2TB dram ssd
One SSD I don't see mentioned much but has a good price is the Silicon Power UD90. It's a Gen 4 drive with good speeds and right now is only $45 for 1TB and only $90 for a 2TB.
Thanks for sharing Ty!
84 for 2 TB on Amazon )
But it doesn't have a Dram buffer
I bought it a while ago and my pc became unstable while using it
Second post, if you are a gamer running new triple A titles get the 2 TB drive! One TB fills up really fast, even if you just use your system for small games and watching online streams a 1tb drive will start to fill up to 400gb just from OS updates etc.
Well said!
Sorry for my English, it's not my native language and I'm translating as best I can.
Perhaps it would have been useful to make a summary table for both speed/price and "writing resistance"/price. Not all models on sale in general have decent values, while only some have very high values, hence also some price differences. Of the 1TB models the declared values are: Samsung 980 Pro has 600 TBW, Sabrent Rocket NVMe 4.0 1800 TBW (which makes it stand out above all the others), WD SN850X 600TBW, Crucial P5 Plus 600TBW, Silicon Power P34A80 800TBW, Samsung 970 Evo Plus 600TBW.
I have 17.25tb of NVMe between all my systems and honestly the SN570 is my favorite bang for buck. I have 4tb of gen4 speed drives in my main rig but they give me nothing more than what my sn570’s give me for game loading. The sn570 is faster full of data than my older dram equipped gen3 drives like a sx8200.
Going forward only buy 2tb or bigger as m2 slots are limited. Boot drives of course can be smaller like 500gb. Sn770 is a worthy buy if not much more than a sn570. Both are extremely good value when using for game storage and not professional media use.
I agree that the typical home computer no longer requires traditional hard drives, but if you are like me and require a lot of storage that is quickly accessible, running traditional hard drives in a Raid or NAS is still the better way to go when it comes to the amount of storage and overall cost. Spinning discs will be with us for a long time yet.
Yeah, I cant fit 37tb very easily or affordably onto SSD's, 4x16tb drives in a raid though no problem.
The Teamgroup Cardea Zero Z440 (graphene or not), not to be confused with the DRAM-less Z44L, solid gen 4 option as well. ~5GB/s seq. reads, ~4GB/s seq. writes, 1GB DRAM cache for the 1TB version, Kioxia flash, 1800 TBW threshold, 5-year warranty, and it has been around the $53-55 range recently, instead of the $60+ from last year.
The other thing to consider is drive longevity. QLC is said to wear down faster than TLC, so it tends to be recommended as a mass storage drive rather than a boot drive (more reads than writes). Personally I'd still go with a drive equipped with DRAM cache as my boot drive, and grab a DRAM-less one for extra storage, especially for old SATA builds that can't accomodate an NVME due to lack of PCIE lanes.
Currently using a Crucial MX500 as a boot drive for an old system that I unfortunately bought right before the massive dip in SSD prices (from $70 back in January, down to $50 as of right now), but it pretty much gave extra life to a near-decade old system. I'll be upgrading to that Cardea Zero Z440 in the near future, though.
Thanks for sharing!
I've gone with 1TB & 2TB SN770. Middle of the road price but good performance, beating many of the expensive drives in some metrics. Also 5 year warranty from a good manufacturer.
Same I got them for 50 bucks each 1 TB Excellent drives
@@steveseybolt That's a great price.
Good drives.
Yep, I often point this out to people. In real world tests (Check TechPowerUp's SSD reviews) the SN770 will punch above its weight class. I've got a 1 terabyte SN770 myself. A good choice if you want to save some money for similar performance.
Good video, but correct me if I'm wrong, he didn't exactly show which are the "bad" SSDs to "stop buying"...
My first SSD in a computer was a 128 GB OCZ Vertex III in the machine I built 12 years ago. I installed the OS on it and had additionally two 2 TB HDD (as they had the best value by that time) which I put into a RAID 0 array.
Black Friday prices were mostly the same as in this video presented 6 months earlier! I noticed that early in October most big online retailers raised their prices across the board for all drives and then for Black Friday advertised as deals select products with old pricing. I am talking about 500gb-2tb drives both NVME and SATA. I bought the Samsung EVO 870 SATA SSD 1tb for $59.00 minus $5.00 Black Friday coupon, total $54.00. Also bought a Crucial T500 newly released NVME drive, very competitively priced, likely the best deal of Black Friday, $64 for 1Tb with heatsink included. 2Tb was for $102 no heatsink. Generally speaking prices for common sized drives of premium brands did not budge much since the time of your recording. Thanks for the video, was very useful for price comparison. I hear from a lot of people that on most merchandise there weren't many real deals this year.
We track prices all year (in spreadsheets in our monthly GPU/CPU market update videos if you want to check those out) so we are able to post actual deals when we see them! Keep an eye on our community page here on youtube or follow us on twitter/threads @pcbuilderjason for those (:
I went with a 2TB crucial p5 plus since I found it on sale. SSDs admittedly are an area of weakness in my knowledge, but I felt pretty good about that one. I was mostly just stoked that I did a new build and didn't plug in a single sata cable. The future is here
Yes!
how's that working.. shud i buy to fill my gen 4 slot in asus z690
@@CaptainScorpio24 It's seemed perfectly good for my needs. Admittedly I'm not doing that much read/write since the most strenuous thing I do on my PC is gaming. I would guess in your case just shop across all of the gen 4 drives with DRAM and grab whatever size you need that's the best price.
hey, know you made this comment 5 months ago, but was just curious how this SSD was holding up for you? I am about to build a new computer and was looking at the very high end SSDs like the western digital sn850x, but after seeing this video I am thinking I probably dont need to get that since the main thing I will be doing on it is gaming (with some computer programming and development for work). Just curious how you find the SSD 5 months after the fact. and in terms of gaming if you don't mind me asking, what games do you primarily play?
I agree with yo9u entirely - BUT... (there's always a BUT!) Most of us have old drives laying around. I am currently on a 2TB Nvme, 4x640GB Barracudas, 70TB external USB 3 drives. My point being... if you have old drives rattling around - use them. Will the game load faster with an Nvme? HELL YEAH!!! But... if you're will to wait a few seconds more.... that old Seagate will be just fine...
This is a good and fairly comprehensive video from the market perspective and looking at options for different people.
Where I think you can do better is less focus on sustained sequential writes and reads, which I fully understand the manufacturers try to push down our throats, and instead focus on QD1 random access performance. This is what is going to matter for the vast majority of users when comparing drives.
Except he ignores HDD completely which can be better option for some. Stuff like less chance of data corruption. And because SSD's uses electricity to stare data, if you leave your SSD laying around for like a year or so, it can lose all of it's data
@@touma-san91 Is that Possible to happen? I was not awared of SSD losing all of its DATA.
@@geraldauguste3044 It can happen. Of course it will depend on the manufacturer and the components being used so the variety can be from one year to like 25 years. Just power your SSD from time to time, better be safe than sorry, right?
Although you should have multiple backups of your important files anyway
My how things change in 5 months. I just bought a 2 TB Samsung 990Pro for 74.99 and Micro Center today!!!
for SPP(silicon power SSDs) for gaming it's probably fine, but be aware SP has been bait n switch recently, I recently purchased large batch of their SSDs, with various controller( some good, some really really really bad), and both TLC and QLC Nand were mixed within same models, this applies to both A60 and UD90; on top of that contacting SP via official email has no reply in one week(still no reply) and live chat simply does not work. I had both SPP A60 and UD90 having realtek controller(oppose to good phison), and QLC nand. The performance is less half than what they advertise, even worse, when SLC cache ran out(6~60GB) the SLC cache recovers extremely slow, and the sustained sequential read and write drops to 180~250MB, most of the time sequential read is not affected, but under some cases read will also throttle due to low quality controller. so strongly recommend to stay away unless you know what are getting yourself into.
You no longer see a need for a HDD for mass storage? Wow...
I still use and need my mass storage... I have over 16TB of HDD storage for my personal PC.
If you are happy with that set up that's great! Not my personal recommendation when building a new system but to each their own for sure
@@PCBuilderChannel I do my own content library of sorts, mostly family pics, emulator and game archives, music... plus the occasional backup of things here and there. It's an epic mess but $250 for 16TB HDD vs $250 for 4TB SSD is a value proposition for my use. Now, I can't say I don't dream of getting one of those M.2 SOHO SAN appliances... but cheap magnetic disks just have too much capacity. I really wished I could get JBOD for M.2, SATA, SD... but that is getting a bit ridiculous.
When the zombie apocalypse happens... I am going to be jamming tunes and playing games in a literal cave under a rock somewhere as I pedal on a generator or stage a guerilla power gen solution.
With a meat grinder for a front door. I will be doing humanity a huge favor!
After all these years I look more at warranty's and the hard drive software quality or if it even has one like WD and Samsung do. Keeps your drive uptodate and also makes cloning headache free when going from build to another.
Just buy the intel 670p 2 tb for $79 if you need direct storage or pcie gen 4 or one for a ps5 get the Solidigm P44 2tb $149 and use the Solidigm nvme driver for both.
For sata 2.5 inch SSD just get any Samsung SSD. If you want bulk storage a mechanical hard drive will only be slightly slower than a Dram less SSD.
Bought 1TB Intel 670p for 42$ month ago and so far it was excellent for the price. It's QLC with DRAM and Solidigm own custom driver that provides a better experience than generic windows driver. For me personally, it's a better choice than A60 as a budget option for system/game drive because it has DRAM. Alternatively I'd pick certified refurbished EVO 970 for 38$ from Best buy, but they disappear so fast after restocking, I never fast enough to order 😅
I ended up getting the 970 for $38 plus a 5$ coupon. It ended up having 98 GBs written on it already, which isn't too bad. Hoping this thing lasts me for 10 years 😬
@@kotztotz3530 yeah as many people posted on reddit those "geek certified" 970 are basically open box returns, after through testing, almost as new. I just wish they had more in stock for that price, lol.
There are also the solidigm drives. The P44 with the software update is a really good 'prosumer' drive that I almost never see mentioned.
@@nadtz Those are supposed to be really good drives. Supposedly it's basically a bunch of people from Intel's SSD division starting a new company.
@@kotztotz3530 Not supposedly, it is. They sold the storage division to Hynix and the result is solidigm and hynix nvme ssd's (m.2 and u.2). I guess they are more known in the enterprise since I almost never see them mentioned on the consumer side.
Only reason i dont like nvmes is because my setup is so ungodly complicated, and it requires putting my entire pc on the floor to even add/replace them. I wish they were hot swappable like sata. Like i can just turn the psu off, take the front glass off, and pretty much just plug it in. No screws, no real hassle on my part
Great info. 2tb is the sweet spot for most builds I couldn't agree more. Great work
Thanks so much! Hope you are having a great weekend!
I have 11.25 TB of storage, and have been eyeing another 4TB Crucial NVMe lol.
I have this in my budget in India. Under or around 6k.
Western Digital WD Blue SN580
Western Digital WD Black SN770
Crucial P3 1TB PCIe 3.0 3D NAND NVMe M.2 SSD
Seagate Barracuda Q5 SSD 1TB up to 2400 MB/s
Western Digital WD Green SN350 NVMe 1TB,
MSI M371 1TB PCIe Gen3x4 NVMe M.2 2280 3D NAND
Western Digital WD Blue SA510 M.2 1TB
TEAMGROUP T-Force Cardea Zero Z440 1TB NVMe
MSI M461 1TB PCIe Gen4x4 NVMe 1.4 M.2
Great video, Jason and team! The step up from an HDD to an SSD really is amazing. I have an SN550 main drive, and I think I'm going to add a Silicon Power A60 as a second drive. The price seems to drop $1-2 every day, though, so I haven't pulled the trigger yet.
Rip pricing these days. Even the older stuff is going up right now
I was a huge fan of Samsung SSDs since my first 830. Then got the 840, 850, 860. So far all good. Then I went with 2 970 EVO Plus and 1 980 Pro. All my NVME broke in less than 6 months. Bad luck? Don't know. I'm since on WD SN750 Gen3 and SN770 Gen4 working flawlessly. Needless to say they are cheaper as well. Don't know, man.
were you downloading and deleting vigorously? did you have a heatsink on those samsung nvme ssd's? im really thinkg about getting a samsung 2tb 980 pro
Ahhh OCZ. Worked there and saw so many failed SSD's, namely with Sandforce controllers.
Very useful video. I think SSD choices are one of the more overlooked topics when it comes to PC building. When I was shopping for my last SSD, I found that the ones marketed toward PS5 users were really overpriced, but things seem to be more settled down now.
Glad you found the video helpful! Hope you keep enjoying all the content!
@@PCBuilderChannelwhat doyou think of the 990 pro 2tb for 150 dollars and within my budget is it aby better tha a 980 pro one ?
Not even for bulk storage?
My dude, 20TB for $280 for just raw file storage of recordings is magnificent.
Just bought a Solidigm P44 Pro for €135, could have gotten the Kingston Fury Renegade 2tb for the same price, hope I made the right choice!
Note: European prices so this is so good a price
It's a good choice but make sure you install their own improved Synergy driver (and update firmware while at it). Solidigm (formerly Intel SSD branch) engineer discussed driver improvements just last week ruclips.net/video/8YBeriMsDS0/видео.html
Not familiar with Solidigm, but the Renegade is a great drive.
As sarmatiko said be sure to install their driver etc.
@@PCBuilderChannel They are the renamed intel storage division that intel sold off. The solidigm drives are the evolution of the intel 670p drives which were/are great drives
@@sarmatiko thank you! I wouldn't have known this had you not said it!
For games just buy crucial sata's SSD. Cheap as hell and games DON'T benefits from using nvme 90% of the time.
NVME pice3.0 variant of that (4To) is 40-50bucks more expensive but you don't have cables to manage.
EVERYTIME I START DEPENDING ON ONE OF THESE THINGS I LOOSE
ALL THE DATA ON IT, I'M SICK & TIRED OF LOOSING IMPORTANT
DATA
At 7:09 you talked about TB and displayed on screen GB.
I am smiling right now cause that’s how much attention I was giving the video. 😊
Good eye! The cat is in charge of checking for Typos, I'll give him a talking to (;
Sorry for the confusion!
Crazy how now only 4 months later you can now find pcie gen 4 m.2 nvme ssds for around $100 for 2 tb
Traditional HDDs still play an important role in personal PC's simply because of their storage capacity of which a single NVME simply cannot offer. With traditional HDD's offering capacities from a mere 1TB to a whopping 20TB it is still a viable and a very attractive storage solution with prices to suit one's budget. Of course the smaller the capacity and the more basic the mechanics, the cheaper the drive.
Regardless of NVME or SSD's having the slight edge over a traditional mechanical HDD with less physical real estate in a system build or promising blistering speeds than the latter, NVME will never be quite adequate enough for bulk storage purposes. Speed is simply not enough, add capacity to the format then there will be something to boast about.
Yeah, I bought a $25 Crucial 500GB Gen3 SSD today from Amazon for my Dell Inspirion 15! I remember they were riotously expensive and I set them aside until today.
Thank you so much for this educational video. I was stressing out trying to find DRAM SSDs online and when you said it didn't really matter if you were just gaming, that really changed my perspective on DRAM SSDs. I'll def save more cash going for DRAMless SSDs now. Thank you!!!
Glad we could help!
As scarce as they are, I'd be recommending a Samsung 970 Pro 1TB as an OS Drive if you are either limited to PCI-E 3.0 or if you are concerned about SSD longevity.
Ditto for using the Corsair MP510 4TB for a gaming SSD.
It's a shame, however, that I have yet to see more MLC-based NVME SSDs for PCI-E 4.0 or 5.0...
First time builder. Memory is so cheap and easy now. The power supply is costing me more than the memory. Crazy.
Yes! It's wild!
That “Houston, we have a problem” at 7:40. LOL! 😂
I just got a 4tb for 151.99 couldn't believe the lower price points since the last time I looked a year ago.
Great overlook of the storage side of things. Thanks, this is definitely a big help saves me a headache thinking I need a better nvme.
Thank you! So glad its helpful! Do us a favor and hit the like button if you haven't to tell youtube share the video!
In my country (Poland, that's in Europe :) ) another sweetspot is Kingston KC3000, great mix of performance and affordability.
In europe one of the best i am totally agree with you.
Nice! Thanks for sharing
Minimum of 2 tb for most gamers imo. 1 tb will probably be ok if you know you're only going to install a couple of games.
I've had 2 of the SP drives for 6 months. So far, so good. I just bought a 3rd one.
Indeed, memory prices has collapse hard! Wonder what caused this! I admit, when I switched form Hdd to SSD a couple of year back, my mind was blowned away at how fast everything was!
Its crazy right?
Thank you man! this subject can be very complicated and confusing, thank you for the effort you do to help us navigate through it
Happy to help! Thank you for watching (:
I love your enthusiasm! This ssd video is just what I needed this week😊
So glad you enjoyed! Hope you keep enjoying the content (:
Love the no nonsense approach to your videos. Solid work as always.
Thanks so much Corey!
Thank you for this much needed update. Hopefully prices stay down afor a while!
You're welcome! Yes exciting to see prices so low!
The one I got for my PS5 is Gen 4.. Now looking for ideas for my PC..
Good video, but I wished you talked more about lanes too.
I'm so glad I found your channel, it has helped immensely in my latest build. You really helped me understand where to spend and where I can save and maintain performance.
Thanks for the feedback, so glad you found us too! And thank you for watching :)
Nice video though would like to ask is the PNY CS1031 1TB M.2 and the Kingston NV2 1TB M.2 good of ssd drives?
cheeeeeeeeeers!!!! honestly awsome. i know ill NEVER tell the diference or ever go long enough to kill one or run into reliability issues cause im a casual AF, but mannnnnnnnn i wanna not have buyer remorse cause 50$ menas nothing to me, but having a 2tb boot drive in my new system there to stay for 5+ years is perfect. im coming from a system with a samsung 870 evo boot drive so its wild~ but still now im leaning samsung 990 pro because the price is almost identical for me at 140$ for 2tb, or ill just go with the SN770 from WD cause PERFECTION without dram tyyyyyyyyyyyy
You NEED a heatsink for WD SN850X. Even with heatsink from motherboard its temps is around 50C*.
Without one I guess why are good to got for 60-70C*.
I have one , Im delivering real numbers. But it is true - it is fast SSD gen4.
Now is a great time to build a great pc (buying used gpus is much better value than new) and storage and memory is dirt cheap for many models atm. I personally, even for a budget pc wouldn’t look under a 2TB NVME for the prices they’re currently at.
Absolutely!
I bought 2 sticks of 2TB each Kingston Fury Renegade PCIe. 4.0, max read 7300MB/s.
Every time I need new PC parts, I find a fresh video on the canal.
Love that it's working out well for you! Glad we could help you as you upgrade. Feel free to check out links to our recommendations in the description :)
Great video!!! I will implement this info in my build. Thanks. Again!
Glad it was helpful!
Just got me the 980 pro 2tb for 110€ for my new gaming pc and with 1tb and heatsink for 71€ for my ps5. Great deal
Thank you for creating such in detial content. This helps so much as I'm building my first gaming pc❤
Love to hear it, good luck with the build! Glad it was so informative :)
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Just got a PCIE expansion card to swap all my files to my new build. Had I known about these speed boosts earlier I might have updated my old system. Now its just going to be an easier way to transfer everything onto a data drive. I went WD for my drives on this build Gen 4 for boot and storage. Got a spare Gen 3 for a backup drive to make sure my personal info doesn't get corrupted.
I can recommend The WD blue drives. good loading times, even in AAA games.
Thanks for sharing!
Finally bought one today and ended up going with 2TB Samsung 990 pro for only 5 dollars more than a 980 pro. Prices went back up I think it was 169 on Amazon for 2 tb and 165 for the 980 pro prices were lower a couple months ago.
Your videos are the best for newbies to Pc
So glad they are helpful!
Also how about a new video on gaming monitors? I need one. It’s criminal I spent close to $1500 building my pc and I’m playing it on an old 1080p 60hz monitor currently. My entire budget went into the build itself which isn’t entirely done needing the monitor, a new good keyboard and mouse setup, probably a new desk, and I’m going to need to replace my air cooler with a aio since it gets so hot in Alabama.
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I've seen enough boost my builds to know jason will recommend gen 3 m.2 ssd. Fast as anyone other than the absolute top productivity will need for the lowest $/gb. Can't wait to watch for specific recommendations and game console stats
Actually Gen 4 NVME are quite price competitive now too, as are some of the PCIE gen 3 drives with DRAM.
@@PCBuilderChannel looks like i had more to learn!
Great video with lots of useful information.
Thank you for the feedback. Glad you enjoyed this one!
Dropping knowledge yo! 🤙
Thanks for the insightful video! Curious why you haven't mentioned Samsung 990 Pro or SK hynix Platinum P41 drives? They are absolute best NVME drives and neck-and-neck with WD SN850X in terms of performance.
The 990 may have some lifespan issues so Im holding off recommending for now, the SK are good just don't overspend on them (:
@@PCBuilderChannel you could even make a quick follow up video about it
20 mins of advertising. If you buying silicone power, make sure not to void their warranty at any cost
Thanks for explaining this! About to do a minipc build for emulation, and needed a 2.5 SSD. This helped a lot will snag whichever one is cheapest come prime day!
6 sata slots, 2 nvma slots.. Sata HDD drives last a long time, SSD have very limited read write cycles
I bought a couple ssds last month. Let's see how bad I effed up... *starts watching*
Hope its helpful! (;
So much information . Great video 👍
Pretty amazing 1tb is under $40. Thanks for the vid, I'm going to get 1 now.
Prices are exciting right now!
Arctic liquid freezer 420 is now being scalped everywhere. Prices are ridiculous.
LOADS of GREAT INFO! NICE SOLID VID!!
Glad you found it informative! Thanks for watching :)
was freaking out cuz i dident get dram on my drive, but after watching i feel a lot better about my gaming build !
Glad we could help!
the best combo for most people are two SSDs. One 1TB drive as a splurge (WD Black 850x, Samsung 990, or Platinum P41) for $80 and a second 2TB drive on the value end for storage. I recommend the WD Black 770 but you can also look at Crucual drives, Corsair, or even the WD Blue.
For me the best combo is a 2tb SSD for my boot/day to day drive then a NAS full of the old fashioned spinners for longer term storage. I previously had a 512gb SSD that was OK for a while but then I ran out of space and started installing games onto the nas which did not work very well so I was forced into an upgrade (Laptop, single SSD spot no room for duel)
Great video! Very informative and well presented. I learned a little bit more about NMVe drives.
Haven´t finish the video yet, but man, really, really good explanations, this are so easy that even my mother would understand it, impresive, thanks for the hard work.
That's great to hear! So glad its helpful (:
I’ll definitely be getting the Crucial MX500 1tb, it’s got a lot of good reviews, thanks man 👍🔥
great explanations thank you for the video
So glad you enjoyed! Thank you for watching
i would avoid unknown SSD brands completly
The 6700xt I thought was gone! Beautiful card. It is a speech for amateurs, but it is also the smallest card that you can find a liquid cooler for, if someone wants to build a small jewel worked to perfection, for the sake of doing it, or learn how to liquid cool without spending 4000 euros!
I don't want to argue, but with similar prices the consoles has not a lot of meaning by comparison.
With the 800 and 1500 dollars builds you can also face the passage of time and techs in all serenity.
The 500 dollars build is more or less a ps5 or an Xbox price! But it is a complete computer! And even better in the videogames themselves! Ah ah ah ah ah! Can't believe! Fun great review!
This is what I need to see. I'm still looking for a good 2tb nvme
Subscribed. I love how happy this guy always seems, makes me happy too lol
Thank you for the sub! So glad you are enjoying (:
The main reason I use a External SSD is due to ease of use.. Plug and play.. Seen no big difference in anything to justify changing even though it may be cheaper.. Bad things happen to me when I start removing Hard drives/storage whatever.. I rather plug into USB. I run all the latest Steam games with Zero issues having them play off my external drive.. I might Buy a few as a back up perhaps, load each one with a O/S.. But to to just swap out ya nope.. Thank you for the tip about cheap hard drive, I just might pick up a few for poops and giggles..
love the recommendations, ended up gettign a SN770 that im going to put in my chipset gen 3 port as a 2tb game stoarge drive, but your other recommendations were awsome! ive been so torn with obver spending or not on my new boot drtive since i cnaq run a gen 4 and will never know the difference, buuuuuut yeah 116$ for the crucial p5 plus was awsome for 2 TB ! dont need the speed but get all the sweetness of a quality dram gen 4 drive without gonig too crazy on things like SN850x or 980 pro or even 990 pro (same price as 980 pro) since i just literaly couldnt do anything with the extra value and i trust the reliability of the P5 for the next 5 years as my boot drive perfectlyyyyyyyyyyyyyy~ but hey........ 25$ is 25$ XD tbf ive over spent so heavily on my system and cheaped out on my gpu for a 7900xt at 700$ thats its wild. bout to have 400$+ of corsair link rgb lighitnig in this thing and its gonan be a new AM4 build of all things. wild times and i love pc hw and being a nerd and enthusiest hobbiest cheeeeeeeeeeeeeeers
Anytime i have a pc question i google it and your videos come up with the absolute best breakdowns possible. Highly underrated channel! ❤
So glad you're getting so much out of the channel! Thanks so much for your support :)
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I only install NVME's now, the finished product is so much cleaner than running sata cables for SSDs.