Revealing the 6 Reasons I'm Saying Goodbye to HomeKit Secure Video in 2024
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- Опубликовано: 31 май 2024
- 6 Reasons I'm Ditching Apple's HomeKit Secure Video
Since its release in 2019, HomeKit Secure Video has been a great tool that has helped millions of users keep their homes safe. However, in 2024 I'm afraid I will be no longer using the service until some changes are made. In this video, I discuss the 6 main reasons I'm done with HKSV and how Apple can get me back.
CHAPTERS:
00:00 - Preview
00:22 - Intro
01:39 - #6 No Smart Displays
02:00 - #5 No 24/7 recording
02:15 - #4 Cameras Going Offline
02:50 - #3 Lack of Video Doorbells
03:25 - #2 Native Apps Are Better
03:43 - #1 1080p Resolution
04:36 - What I’m Using Instead
05:12 - Wrap Up
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I hope Apple is listening!
Me too!
Cameras inside. Someone is definitely watching 👀.
In the case of HKSV, nobody else is watching. End to end encryption & none of your video is shared with Apple. That’s the biggest benefit to HKSV
I normally use the native apps BUT use the HKSV for the quick ‘at a glance’ since I have different camera brands. At a glance is nice since I don’t have to jump into each app. I use Homebridge to bring em all together.
Yeah, that’s about all I was using it for…the quick, “at a glance”. It wasn’t enough for me.
I have tapo WiFi cameras around my house and was bumped by not being able to use it with Apple HomeKit. And I was about to intergrade homebridge and connect it to Apple HomeKit till I saw your video. I think my biggest 2 issues would be 1080p resolution and not allowing 24x7 recording (what the heck it’s 2024). I’m hoping they would fix this by this year. But till then I ain’t changing anything.
For the very reasons you mentioned, I don’t blame you one bit.
Absolutely agreed. After having gone through 4 different cameras and 3 completely different wifi configurations and routers (even different apartments), I keep getting the offline cameras WAY TOO OFTEN. It’s pretty disappointing to realize that there have been no improvements in this regard for two entire years. People will eventually start voting with their feet, and I hope Apple is listening rather than waiting to give up. Great video as always!
100% agreed!
Hi George! I hope you are doing well and that you enjoyed your holidays! :) What do you think about adding a covert layer of video security to the overt layer you showcase in your video. I notice on a lot of burglary videos on RUclips that the criminals either coat the camera lenses with a spray, disable the system, and/or simply wear masks to evade recognition making the video virtually useless.
But, if there were a covert security camera and alarm system in the house they might catch the criminal's face on camera and lead to an arrest and possibly recovery of the stolen goods.
What are your thoughts on this? Do you recommend any covert/hidden home security system brands?
Hello! Thank you & I hope the same for you!I’ve done a couple videos on the topic of covert cameras. Here are the links:
ruclips.net/video/gyZiCVMS_R8/видео.htmlsi=qahN6juqcFMyeVzZ
ruclips.net/video/a5Ye4yyJH3s/видео.htmlsi=Pp80GyFLH5AHK6VN
I was dead set with the crossover to Apple over a year ago. I’m a JAMF developer and use Apple for our home builds. But you are right. Apple has proven they have zero value with more integration into the IOS ecosystem!! Eufy is a great choice. Amazing cams and the ones we use for our installations!! But I agree with you. Bye Apple video !! We will still use HomeKit for all of our sensors and automations with the use of the Athom bridge. But no more videos !!!
I really wish they would listen and give us some updates.
Thanks. Hope we will have news about these points during next WWDC 🤞🏻
I sure hope so…but not holding my breath. 🙄
I totally agree with you. I am dedicated to Apple Home but really getting frustrated with HomeKit Secure Video. Missing video clips happens way to often. The native manufacturer app catches it but Apple does not!! Not a good look for Apple.
Not a good luck at all. I’ve turned my head for too long. Time to protest. Lol
Great Video. How would you get Eufy into the Apple TV pop up screen notification?
Thank you! You’d have to use something like HomeBridge.
I have tried homebridge and scrypted with ring and I have been getting still frames notification on some cameras on some of the apple tv. I wonder if it's the cameras or the ring software. I guess it wouldn't hurt to give Eufy a try. Thank you
Great video. thanks for the info. I will definitely consider Eufy now.
You’re welcome & thanks for watching!
I’ve actually already switched back to Google Nest. 😬
My next video explains why. Stay tuned.
Great video George and all the best for 2024 🎉! Like you, I”m all in on Homekit, but have held off on the cameras. I have always found Homekit video lacking. I think needs a local Homekit hub with enough storage and a display to keep data local, get rid of cloud ☁️ storage, resolution limits and have local control which will likely fix all the offline issues. I’m using Eufy’s smart lock video doorbell combo which has been great, but will likely go with Unifi for the rest of my security cameras as I already have a UDM Pro and solid wired network.
A wired NVR system is always the better option (as long as it’s a good one). If I didn’t live in an apartment, I’d ditch WiFi cameras in in exchange for Alibi system in a heartbeat.
Thanks, George. Another great video. I'm just getting started with smart homes as I'm building a new house. I'm in with Apple just for privacy. These other cameras are on the Alexa platform - with privacy and security I don't trust. What are your thoughts on that?
Thank you!
They don’t have to be used with Alexa. You can use them simply with Eufy or The Google Assistant, eufy got bit in the butt a little over a year ago for privacy issues. They’ve corrected those issues since.
Thank you
You’re welcome!
Agreed! I was hoping we'd have a chance to talk about projects we have for this year in the HK Member Chat. This year we are also moving away from HKSV and have a few goals: all outdoor cameras will be PoE, most indoor cameras will be PoE with a couple exceptions that will be Wi-Fi, those must support RTSP. I'm still deciding what I'll use on my server to manage the cameras, in the past I enjoyed BlueIris. I'm looking at some more modern solutions with AI. I have a NAS for storage. Apple needs to get their stuff together. My Alexa smarthome setup combined with Home Assistant is way more capable than my HK with Home Assistant setup.
Yeah, a wired NVR system is always the way to go. I’d scrap all WiFi options in a heartbeat if I had a house where I could run cables and install one of my Alibi systems.
The hammer 🔨 laying it down ! I came to your channel because of your starling review. I have a nest doorbell, a OG nest indoor camera, wired google camera and the google nest floodlight camera. My google home nest max acts as a camera too. I also have 3 google home hubs. The hubs come in handy to view the cameras. Like you said starling is an amazing product. The always work in my Apple home app. I still have the google aware subscription so I have 24/7 video access plus plan. I really enjoy the mesh of Apple and google. Often I have to go into the google home app to view footage because of the lake of 24/7 Apple home is missing. Does your parents still have the google floodlight? I am considering a wired system but dont know if I want to fork out the money and start over. Thanks for your great work
You know I appreciate your continued support. You’re one of the OGs.
The Starling is one of my favorite smart home devices ever…great people too.
Yes, my parents still have that Google Foodlight. Still my favorite Floodlight camera, mostly because the lights are so much better than most.
I am completely torn. You’re 100% right but I love the HomeKit integration. I’m gonna hold on just a little longer so that I don’t have to go to multiple sources but now you’ve got me thinking. As always, thanks for everything you do!
I really wish things were different, but enough is enough. HKSV has been a thing since 2019. More than enough time to make some of these updates.
Thanks for watching and I very much appreciate your continued support. 😊
I agree. I am using ASV. But only for a non security application. I can live with the missed detections and 1080p in that application. For my video security, not a chance. Already had two attempted b&E. Both resulted in arrests based mainly on video evidence pulled from recordings higher than 1080p.
Sorry to hear about the attempted B&Es. Always scary. Yeah, giving the police 1080p footage at this point is embarrassing.
Turns out we have a crazy neighbor. Plus side, all other new neighbors loved me when they saw the crazy guy tossed into the back of a police car.
I'm using Unifi Protect with HomeBridge connecting my cameras to the Home app
Great video and I can’t agree more. I hope that if you gave yourself three years, you wouldn’t be leaving HKSV, but we’ll see.
Thank you sir! Man, I hope so too. I’ll gladly go back if they can fix even 1 or 2 these issues in the next 12 months. Will we be seeing you at CES? It would be awesome to meet another one of my HomeKit Brothers in person.
I use a few different smart home brands. I use eufy, apple home, google home, and smart things. Thanks to you I recently bought the starling home hub which has been awesome so far. I love having my nest cams in Apple home. I have a question though from your prospective from being in your business. How do you feel about eufys privacy issues? I still use them but I’m curious about your take on it. Thanks again for the starling info.
Nice! It took me awhile to forgive Eufy for the way they handled the privacy issues. But that was over a year ago & they finally responded accordingly. So as much as I usually hold a grudge, cancer has changed me a bit & I realize it’s time to forgive & forget. lol
Thank you for the reply. Keep up your battle.
I installed two Eufy E340 doorbells about a month ago. Super satisfied with them. I hard wired both of them. Literally zero issues with them. I tried the Aqara doorbell, but returned them almost immediately.
Nice! Eufy has always been solid for me too.
But Eufy doesnt work with HomeKit. How do you get around that?
I don’t. I’m ok not having them in HomeKit. Some use something like HomeBridge to bring Eufy into HomeKit, but it doesn’t bother me enough to do that.
@@GeorgeLangabeer same
I’m a big Apple fan, but I agree with you 100%. I bought a wemo doorbell camera because I wanted to use it in Apple HomeKit. The resolution sucked and it always went offline. So I switched back to Ring.
We definitely need a bigger selection of HKSV Doorbells.
The lack of 24/7 recording is what I hate. I always miss the first few seconds of a detection and it cuts out when activity is still happening. Worse yet, a lot of times it won’t record an activity at all.
Yep. Agreed
I was just having that issues 2days ago every thing in the home app stop responding, but when I check the natives app, all cameras and lights were up and working. Later on that night I was forced to reboot the internet
Sorry to hear you’ve been having some of the same issues. Frustrating.
This video may have just convinced me to go with Blink and an Amazon Echo Show. I’ve been looking for a camera system to see inside and outside without subscriptions that I could have a constant live feed on a monitor and that integrated with door and window alarms as well. I thought HomeKit in conjunction with aqara cameras and window sensors was going to be my solution but if there’s no way to see all zones of live feed on a monitor it won’t work for me
I most certainly wouldn’t go with Blink instead. Blink is cheap garbage.
Thanks!
Very kind of you. Thank you. 🙏🏻❤️
I Agree. Im all Apple at my house too. I might be switching it up if things don't change as well.. Ecobee just came out with a new Doorbell but that probably won't help!
I don’t have doorbell wiring here, or I’d be trying the Ecobee myself….but you’re right, doesn’t matter in HKSV.
Agree with this so much!
They need to make some changes!
I'm planning on replacing five of my Aqara G2H camera hubs to Ubiquiti G4/G5 Instant cameras this year. I currently have all Ubiquiti PoE cameras for the outdoors and I want to move to Ubiquiti cameras for the indoors as well. I rarely used HKSV footage anyway. I usually go straight to the Aqara cameras and pull up the footage off of the SD card that I have inside them where I am doing 24/7 recordings. My OCD will feel much better once I have all my camera footage storage on my UniFi UNVR Pro that is in a RAID array. If an SD card fails, no footage available. If I need to go back earlier than a week, no footage available. If I want to save some video footage, very difficult (at least to me) to do so in the Aqara app. UniFi cameras do a better job of smart detections (IMHO) and again I really like the proposition of having my video stored on a RAID array. The indoor cameras are monitoring my four exterior doors and my garage door from the inside of the house.
Sounds like an excellent plan.
I agree with you. Apple has a long way to go with HKSV. Hopefully in the near future they will make moves to make it 2K res at the very least. I like you, are using all Eufy Cams to see my notifications through the eufy app with HomeKit to control my smart lights and etc. great content. Keep it up. 👍🏻
Let’s hope for big changes this year. Maybe they’ll surprise us.
Thank you! I appreciate your continued support very much.
Man George I totally agree with your reasons to ditch HKSV but I’ll stick with them for a little while longer. I currently have Eve flood cam, Eufy and Aqara cameras. The 2k and 24/7 recording is a must for sure.
I gave them two years. Time to take a stand. Lol
@@GeorgeLangabeer I totally get it. My hope is they will do something about Apple Home this year at WWDC. I doubt it cause they really haven’t announced much since the start of Home since they announced it. In my opinion Apple has dropped the ball on the Smart Home.
I would love some announcements at WWDC as well. But like you, I won’t hold my breath.
@@GeorgeLangabeer just give us something good to keep us early adopters interested.
I am currently in the same position where I am on the fence with should I drop Apple Home Secure video or not. I currently use the Eufy C2 Pro camera's around my house but my cameras go off line every single night / Morning for hours not even minutes. The worst of all is that, the cameras go off line at a time in the morning when we are at our most vulnerable and in deep sleep between 3h30am and 5h00am. It is just still so difficult to not use apple...... Maybe im just one of those suckers :).
You’re not alone. I’m one of those suckers too. That’s why I had to promise myself. lol
I have also moved from Apple Secure Video to Eufy. Way less frustrating
Indeed.
Love your work
Thank you! ❤️
You tell ‘em George! Great video!
lol. 💪🏻…thank you!
Thanks , as always, for the great video. I have MANY eufy cameras and the app is GOOD (not great). And I have ALMOST enabled HomeKit secure video on these as a backup and way to see on Apple TV. But it SEEMS from a scary alert that this will DISABLE many Eufy features in their app . Is that true ? And, if so , what do I lose? I would always use Eufy as main resource but would like to ALSO add to HomeKit. But not if I LOSE features. Can you clarify this alert and IF and WHAT is lost by enabling HomeKit. Thanks for your words of wisdom.
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You can still use your cameras in the Eufy app whether they are in HomeKit or not.
@@GeorgeLangabeer the alert that pops up says it will disable people tracking etc on Eufy app. Am I misreading that? Or are they wrong ? Thanks again for words of wisdom
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@iamnotapoet Where are you seeing this alert? Having a Eufy camera in HomeKit shouldn’t change the functionality at all in The Eufy App.
@@GeorgeLangabeer Eufy HomeKit Portal Alert:
SETTINGS/GENERAL / HomeKit Portal
“ATTENTION: According to the Apple guidelines when
HomeKit is enabled:
Supports up to 1080P resolution to stream and record video both in the eufy Security app and the Home app.
The on-device Al, sound detection, and pet command functions will be disabled.
Activity zones will be disable.
eufy Cloud storage, NAS storage, and Edge Connection will be disabled. If you have subscribed to a eufy Cloud Storage plan, you can cancel the subscription if necessary.
The watermark will be turned off automatically. If you still need it, you can turn on it in the eufy Security app.
The Home app can't access recording clips stored to the SD card.”
Biggest concern is if it DISABLES THIS in Eufy app: “The on-device Al, sound detection, and pet command functions will be disabled.
Activity zones will be disable.” I NEED those features in the Eufy app and for the Homebase 3 alarm system
Apple’s AI strategy is based on Siri and is due to start rolling out later this year. I have a blend of Apple Home and native apps with SD cards. I’m going to hang in there and hope Apple pulls through.
Yeah, I hope you’re right, but I’ve unfortunately heard that too many times from Apple. I’ll believe it when I see it.
I agree with you but at the same time I am skeptical on eufy as it is a questionable company as far as privacy goes.
I, like you, was not a fan of the way Eufy handled the privacy issues that plagued them. But that was well over a year ago & they have everything in lockdown now. So for me, it was time to let go of my grudge.
I much rather prefer IP cameras for outdoors but for indoor cameras Aqara HSV is more than sufficient.
Nice. That type of setup is the way to go.
🔮 There are rumors that Apple is about to release a HomePod-like device with a screen.
Yeah, I’ve heard those rumors for over two years now. I’d love for them to be true, but I believe it when I see it.
@@GeorgeLangabeer, I understand
I subscribed
Awesome! Thank you for doing so.
Yeah, it’d be nice if it worked reliably and had more options
Indeed!
Your first mistake was using smart home products from a company that doesn't primarily make smart home products first.
They are a phone company first. Smart home products are probably 4th on their list of important things to do.