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  • It takes religion to get good people to do bad things. #religion #atheist #meaning
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Комментарии • 223

  • @kevinfancher3512
    @kevinfancher3512 17 дней назад +37

    I don't believe for a second that Brian is questioning his faith. I say 50/50 he's just another lying preacher.

  • @robertjenkins2578
    @robertjenkins2578 17 дней назад +45

    I used to think that religion had a positive influence on society. I would simply grit my teeth and squint my eyes to get past all the stuff a person is supposed to believe. But I have abandoned all hope for religion. It just provides a way for people to justify the tribe’s malignant attitudes toward outsiders.

    • @Gwaithmir
      @Gwaithmir 16 дней назад +2

      “Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.” (Steven Weinberg)

    • @trafficjon400
      @trafficjon400 15 дней назад

      its the Manipulations that being skeptical needs to know the difference being faced. anything else with pure honesty would be hard to track when someone doesn't know what can be harmful , also the out come feels risky being Honest for many being cought in such a tight hole about religion is negative with nothing proven to suport life after death..

    • @trafficjon400
      @trafficjon400 15 дней назад

      1 MAIN PROBLEM I Do not like about Christian practice is puting words in your mouth to get you to understand ! it seems set by practice and hopefully you don't catch it being done even if they don't know they practice it. Seems Faith has something to do with it because faith has no foundation to support anything. edit with Jesus being a carpenter makes one think he has a foundation for our faith. yet, jesus being a carpenter who said heals but his foundaion butters it up niceley. so many thoughts in this its crazy.

    • @shmick6079
      @shmick6079 11 дней назад

      I certainly think that religion *can* have a good impact on society, and there are certainly examples where it *has* done, but that doesn’t mean that it can’t also be harmful, and there are certainly examples of this as well.
      Plenty of religious people are good people with good intentions, and many of those people are harmless.
      You can’t tar every individual with the same brush.

    • @Magnusfication
      @Magnusfication 11 дней назад

      ​@@shmick6079 except you cant show that its their religion thats making them behave "good".

  • @godsbane6664
    @godsbane6664 17 дней назад +42

    I became a better man after losing 33 years faithful believe in god and religion. When i realized that be moral or immoral was my decision and my decision alone with no bribe of heaven or threat of hell...when i realized that i could no longer justify my actions with "jesus forgive me" before bed.

    • @paultimson6674
      @paultimson6674 16 дней назад

      and you got a devil cartoon with wings? called yourself GODS BANE 6664? or was the 6664 added by chance?

    • @barbiedahl
      @barbiedahl 16 дней назад

      ​​​@@paultimson6674 to those of us who aren't credulous, who don't believe in fairy tales no matter how popular they are, Satan is an allegory, not the enemy. For me, Satan is Lucifer, the Lightbringer, and he represents utilizing rationality as opposed to relying on faith, discovery through science as opposed to complacencey in ignorance.

    • @tophatxcc
      @tophatxcc 16 дней назад +1

      @@paultimson6674It’s called a joke.

    • @paultimson6674
      @paultimson6674 16 дней назад

      @@tophatxcc a joke , that takes a bit of work.

    • @paolagrando5079
      @paolagrando5079 16 дней назад

      @@paultimson6674 different people, different humour

  • @joshsheridan9511
    @joshsheridan9511 17 дней назад +39

    Does religion make you good?
    History says nope.

    • @bobgarrett7134
      @bobgarrett7134 14 дней назад

      History says YES. Go into any church on Sunday and listen to the songs, adoration, and general attentiveness and devotion.

    • @randolphpatterson5061
      @randolphpatterson5061 14 дней назад +1

      @@bobgarrett7134 You mean, like going to bars on weekends to listen to live bands, maybe sing along & dance? Yeah, adoration, general attentiveness, and devotion. Your point was?

    • @bobgarrett7134
      @bobgarrett7134 14 дней назад

      @@randolphpatterson5061 You go to bars and dance halls to cut some moves and light up the floor, chase babes, or entertain your date. Those are all things that are done to highlight YOU, YOUR enjoyment, and YOUR ego.
      You go to Mass for the community worship of God. Kneel to God, sing to God, pray to God, give thanks to God, and to show God he's the most important person in your life. Those are all unselfish things that are done for the love of GOD.

    • @randolphpatterson5061
      @randolphpatterson5061 14 дней назад +1

      @@bobgarrett7134 Actually, in my case, I'm most often the one on the stage, communing with the community, through our pure enjoyment of each others' company. Your church sounds fun, I've attended many of those, since I've only been an atheist for maybe 35 of my 70 years, and a church or a religion doesn't have some kind of a monopoly on, or an appropriation of, socializing. I don't care what the buybull says, and I don't share your belief that some invisible celestial babysitter is hiding in the clouds, reading our minds and condemning us to a hell he created, because of some random thought that we had while dreaming. If your god were actually REAL, he'd be the biggest jerk of all time. Have a nice day.

    • @josephbelisle5792
      @josephbelisle5792 12 дней назад +2

      ​@@bobgarrett7134haha, follow those people the rest of the week. You won't find the goodness. Especially if you are able to look into their minds. In my experience religion is not an indicator of goodness just because they play pretend for an hour or several a week. And if you look at the death toll by the religious it grossly evident that religion makes you good. Read the holy texts and they will tell to be not good for god.

  • @Seticzech
    @Seticzech 17 дней назад +17

    "Does Religion Make You Good?" Definitelly nope.

  • @Specialeffecks
    @Specialeffecks 17 дней назад +21

    The Caller doesn't seem to understand the null hypothesis.
    Don't accept the claim until there is evidence to do so.

    • @shmick6079
      @shmick6079 11 дней назад +1

      He’s overthinking it. Not sure where the 50% thought process is coming from, but from that alone he’s clearly overthinking it - which may be a built-in subconscious safety net from years of indoctrination.

  • @Jocelyn-sm2zk
    @Jocelyn-sm2zk 17 дней назад +17

    Religion doesn't make you good, it just makes you think you'll go to heaven anyway.

    • @bobgreenfield9158
      @bobgreenfield9158 16 дней назад +1

      It can make you think you are good, but are really a scoundrel.

    • @paultimson6674
      @paultimson6674 16 дней назад

      King David is a murderer. Paul called Saul, is a murder of Christians. He is afflicted by poor sight. No Man is good. Its not about deeds. You are saved by Faith alone, not by deeds, lest and man boast. We are saved by God's blood. His sacrifice. We acknowledge we are flawed. We need a change of heart. BORN AGAIN. Now a satanist is copying us. They go along to a 13 man baptism. Get a new Name? why do you suppose so many celebs change their names? Can't they hack it with their own names. Cilla White needs to be Cilla black? Some of these name changes are absurd. A boy in my class at school changed his family name. There is no reason for it? He now is very famous and draws pentagrams in Comics. He is one of the creators of the next Deadpool film.
      Marvel Jesus? as the promos say.
      You either are anti-LIFE. anti-GOD. who is offering you a place in heaven, as a GOD? the bible says it. He is elevating all people who want Jesus. Or you are fighting on earth to remain the same? Look at world history - MURDER, SEX CRIMES, ADDICTIONS, SLAVERY, etc etc... God is offering everyone a solution. Stop trying to justify it all. Accept you are flawed. Accept you can end up in jail? Dodged your taxes? sold something suspect? thought about sex with someone married. we all fall short. SIN is just a MIRROR. to show your flaws. God is not interested if you murder anyone. as all souls are immortal. You only harm yourself. You hang onto your dirty secrets like they were made of Gold. Instead of dropping them and facing your last JUDGE. God is our last judge. your parents judge you, teachers, school friends, lovers, and the paper might print an obituary? then its GOD. you resent being properly judged? a final indignity?

    • @barbiedahl
      @barbiedahl 16 дней назад

      Touché

  • @chuckhunter77
    @chuckhunter77 17 дней назад +24

    It bugs me a little when people refer to the process of dismantling irrationally held beliefs as "losing faith". Loss implies that which is missing had some value and that you wanted to hold onto it. I didn't lose faith, I discarded garbage ideologies and irrational beliefs.

    • @einienj3281
      @einienj3281 17 дней назад +7

      Do we ask children how they felt finding out that Santa isn't real? Most of what I have heard, is people congratulate their kids for growing up and being "too old to believe in little kid stuff"..

    • @KrelianLoke
      @KrelianLoke 17 дней назад +5

      One can lose either favourable or unfavourable things. Losing something doesn't necessarily come with a negative connotation. I'm losing weight. The fats my body has discarded is still a loss to me, a weight loss. Even though the fats have no value that I wanted to hold onto.

    • @siLveRscOpe13x
      @siLveRscOpe13x 16 дней назад +1

      I say I "gained clarity."

    • @chuckhunter77
      @chuckhunter77 16 дней назад

      @@KrelianLoke That's fair enough. I hadn't looked at it that way.

  • @sanjeevgig8918
    @sanjeevgig8918 17 дней назад +24

    "The universe is under no obligation to make sense to you" - Neil deGrasse Tyson
    .
    LOLZ

    • @bobgarrett7134
      @bobgarrett7134 14 дней назад

      The universe makes sense to me. It's beautiful. It's full of grandeur. It's home to this awesome, beautiful blue planet. Our Earthly home is full of eats, treats, chefs, gourmet meals, adventures, excitement, vocations, vacations, cars, planes, trains, people, beaches, swimming pools, diving exhibitions, tennis courts, basketball courts, football fields, boxing rings, fashion shows, beauty pageants, museums, libraries, movie theaters, circuses, trapeze artists, trampoline artists, lion tamers, galloping horses, nature walks, bird sanctuaries, safaris, big game hunting, whale watching. There's more to do and see on Earth than one can experience in a lifetime. Think how much more is in store for us as we have unlimited experiences, and endless happiness, in the life to come.

  • @dimitrioskalfakis
    @dimitrioskalfakis 17 дней назад +15

    it is always amusing when abrahamists ponder on pseudo-dilemmas and walk themselves into the corner of desperation and reach arbitrary unsupported conclusions.

  • @joshsheridan9511
    @joshsheridan9511 17 дней назад +17

    I'm happy that i never had religious faith to question.

    • @HumanismIsSatanic-rt1gu
      @HumanismIsSatanic-rt1gu 17 дней назад

      I'm so happy that I'm willing and able to accept God AKA I'm not an atheist.
      Atheists humanist like any sense of morals.
      I just wish they had the courage of their convictions and would leave Western Civilization AKA Christian civilization and go live under their Godless safety is the humanist Utopias like North Korea.
      Because they keep on infesting our institutions and pushing their atheistic humanist faith-based beliefs on other people.
      In the United States they ignore the Constitution and push talmud law murdering children all the way up to birth

    • @t800fantasm2
      @t800fantasm2 17 дней назад +6

      @@HumanismIsSatanic-rt1gu What a load of incredibly stupid drivel....
      " I'm not an atheist."
      To every other religion, you are an atheist...
      " and would leave Western Civilization "
      you mean like in the USA that Christians conquered/stole from others and forced their religious views onto the original inhabitants...
      Also, your religion came from the Middle East you f**king uneducated twat-waffle....
      Maybe you should go back there....
      " infesting our institutions and pushing their atheistic"
      Actually no.... We just push back on theists trying to FORCE their unproven primitive bronze age middle eastern religion onto us....

    • @SundaeExpress
      @SundaeExpress 17 дней назад +4

      @@HumanismIsSatanic-rt1gu

    • @sideboob6851
      @sideboob6851 17 дней назад +2

      ​@@t800fantasm2 Amen brother!

    • @sideboob6851
      @sideboob6851 17 дней назад +2

      ​​@@HumanismIsSatanic-rt1gu Read up on the atrocities the Christians did to the natives of the Americas, Africa and Australia. Learn how horrific Christians were to those people. Your kind cares more for the unborn than they do the born.

  • @Islandalex1
    @Islandalex1 17 дней назад +11

    I'm 77 years old. and went to a catholic school with nuns...in the 5th grade the nuns wanted us to have our parents buy relics of the saints....a little see through plastic case....with cotton and a fragment of some kind of bone....maybe a chicken bone...who knows...I persevered all the way through the 12 grade...During these years I had to go to church six times a week...and we were brain washed with religion class 5 times a week....I love your show....so now I don't beleive in a biblical God...I'D LOVE TO COME ON YOUR SHOW AND SHARE SOME OF THE RIDICOULOUS things I went through...

    • @quecee
      @quecee 17 дней назад +10

      It's a call-in show, so you can use the info in the show notes to call in.
      They prioritize theist callers, so the best bet is for you to call in ten to fifteen minutes before the show start, as soon as the lines open.

    • @HumanismIsSatanic-rt1gu
      @HumanismIsSatanic-rt1gu 17 дней назад

      That's strange you went to a Catholic Church 6 days a week can you tell me the name of that Catholic church because that seems strange I never heard of that.

    • @Apollorion
      @Apollorion 17 дней назад +2

      @@HumanismIsSatanic-rt1gu Note: Islandalex1 -spoke- typed _six times a week_ so that could be executed on any arbitrary number of days between 0 and 7 each week !

    • @HumanismIsSatanic-rt1gu
      @HumanismIsSatanic-rt1gu 17 дней назад

      @@Apollorionwhat is islandalex 1
      And what do you mean typed six times a week. I Really don't understand your entire response do you think you can clarify

    • @Apollorion
      @Apollorion 17 дней назад +2

      @@HumanismIsSatanic-rt1gu "what is islandalex 1" Islandalex1 is the RUclips Member that posted the OP comment.
      "And what do you mean typed six times a week" . The OP comment by Islandalex1 literally contains the (short) frase "six times a week".
      So this doesn't imply anything about the distribution of these church visits over the week, just that each week they made a total of 6 i.e. be it in a total of 1 day, 2 days, 3 days, 4 days, 5 days or maybe even 6 days, all possible, iow: the total nr of days employed was between 0 and 7.
      P.S. And each different week could also have a different distribution.

  • @ZColl-pb4cq
    @ZColl-pb4cq 17 дней назад +12

    The purpose of the universe as far as I can tell is chaos.

    • @ziploc2000
      @ziploc2000 17 дней назад +2

      If the universe had a purpose it would be to create black holes.

    • @junodonatus4906
      @junodonatus4906 17 дней назад +2

      "As far as we can tell" is the point. It's fascinating to wonder how little or much of the universe we can actually observe. Although entropy increases in a closed system, it's clear that energy can flow from one object (the sun) to another (the Earth) and provide the means (energy) for assembly to take place.

  • @stephenweir9768
    @stephenweir9768 17 дней назад +8

    Brian seems to be a fan of special pleading.

  • @brewberry3894
    @brewberry3894 17 дней назад +13

    Maybe questioning long held religious beliefs is difficult because it means taking responsibility for one's beliefs, instead of putting the burden on some god.

    • @junodonatus4906
      @junodonatus4906 17 дней назад +2

      Religion provides the equivalent of the wife to whom a husband wants to defer everything so he can live a mindless life, "yes dear, ok dear, whatever you say dear...as long as I don't have to think and assume the responsibility of a bad choice please make all my decisions for me."

    • @roems6396
      @roems6396 16 дней назад

      Well, it’s specifically difficult because people are taught that faith is a necessary part of the Christian belief, and if you question it, then you aren’t having faith. And if you aren’t having faith, then you don’t deserve to go to heaven and live forever among your loved ones. Not only that, but you will be tortured forever if you don’t have that faith. So it has a built in fail safe that shuts down any logical thoughts before they get started.

  • @satyasyasatyasya5746
    @satyasyasatyasya5746 17 дней назад +7

    *do what is good based on an understanding of how it will affect me and those around me* > *do what magic man says because he says so*

  • @Mr_Porter
    @Mr_Porter Месяц назад +18

    This call grew more frustrating by the minute. Each point he raised was as ridiculous as the last, and his habit of constantly interrupting mid-sentence was incredibly annoying. Such behavior not only derailed the conversation but also made it difficult to address any of his claims seriously.

  • @sanjeevgig8918
    @sanjeevgig8918 17 дней назад +15

    Xtians: Atheist don't want to take responsibility for actions that my book defines as "sins"
    SAME Xtians: MY sins don't count. Jesus paid my bill forever and ever. He also gave me a "purpose" - to worship him for this bill payment.
    .
    LOLZ

    • @HumanismIsSatanic-rt1gu
      @HumanismIsSatanic-rt1gu 17 дней назад

      Transx atheist humanist... I think faith-based beliefs are ridiculous.
      Transx atheist humanist... I demand that you acknowledge my faith-based belief that I was born in the wrong body as a physical reality

    • @sideboob6851
      @sideboob6851 17 дней назад +5

      ​@@HumanismIsSatanic-rt1gu Typical delusional Christian: I demand you believe in the existence of my God whom I can't provide one ounce of evidence for the existence of.

    • @Beacon80
      @Beacon80 17 дней назад +5

      @@HumanismIsSatanic-rt1gu That has nothing to do with atheism or humanism. Why do you insist on associating gender identity with completely unrelated things?

    • @HumanismIsSatanic-rt1gu
      @HumanismIsSatanic-rt1gu 17 дней назад

      @@Beacon80 because in the west the vast majority of people who follow gender Faith are atheist humanists. Matter of factt according to statistics in a Pew research report your three times more likely to be an atheist if you're a member of the lgbtq community.
      Can you name one host of The atheist experience who doesn't follow gender faith.
      I would say approximately 95% of the atheist on these threads follow gender Faith.
      Let's see if you're even willing to supply a rational definition for the meaning of female. For all I know you even follow gender faith , I guess we will see if you supply the rational definition or not.

    • @Beacon80
      @Beacon80 17 дней назад +4

      @@HumanismIsSatanic-rt1gu "because in the west the vast majority of people who follow gender Faith are atheist humanists."
      So, not all of them. There are Christian transgender people out there and transphobic atheists. Which means it's not an atheist thing.
      "according to statistics in a Pew research report your three times more likely to be an atheist if you're a member of the lgbtq community."
      And that couldn't possibly be because of all the theistic that condemn the LGBTQ?
      "Can you name one host of The atheist experience who doesn't follow gender faith."
      Ignoring your loaded-to-the-point-of-inaccuracy language, no. How is that relevant?
      "I would say approximately 95% of the atheist on these threads follow gender Faith."
      Again, not all of them. 🤔
      "Let's see if you're even willing to supply a rational definition for the meaning of female."
      Since you like Oxford Languages so much:
      Female, adjective
      * of or denoting the sex that can bear offspring or produce eggs, distinguished biologically by the production of gametes (ova) that can be fertilized by male gametes.
      * relating to women or the female gender.
      Gender, noun
      1. the male sex or the female sex, especially when considered with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones, or one of a range of other identities that do not correspond to established ideas of male and female.

  • @Abyzz_Knight
    @Abyzz_Knight 17 дней назад +8

    17:00 what about all the people that didn't survive? Did the supposedly omniscient, omnipotent, omnibenevolent God decide that they weren't worth saving? Why would I thank such a god?

  • @shrews12001
    @shrews12001 17 дней назад +9

    There is no purpose. You live then you die. If you can improve life for other people in the between that's nice but not required. That's all. Anything else is just your choice to experience but none of it is necessary.

  • @dwaynemaroney7159
    @dwaynemaroney7159 16 дней назад +4

    Why is it necessary for us to have a "purpose ". We are born, we live our, and then we die. If we're lucky, we get to have a good time being here. I'm old and I enjoyed my life . No regrets. No freaking purpose.

  • @joshsheridan9511
    @joshsheridan9511 17 дней назад +6

    Well the universe is expanding so technically it is going somewhere.
    As for purpose, the universe doesn't seem to have a purpose.

  • @cnault3244
    @cnault3244 23 дня назад +8

    Caller needed a purpose? OK no problem here ya go:
    1) MY purpose is to provide a purpose for everyone else
    2) the purpose of everyone on this planet is to do what they can to make my life easier ( and i gotta say, a lot of you are not living up to your full potential
    3) it doesn't matter whether anyone believes this or not because I am not an immature petulant egomaniac who demands worship and punishes non-believers

    • @liamgraer9594
      @liamgraer9594 17 дней назад +1

      Do you care if I wear mixed fabrics then?

    • @cnault3244
      @cnault3244 17 дней назад +3

      @@liamgraer9594 Just don't wear socks with sandals. ( a suggestion, not a commandment)

    • @liamgraer9594
      @liamgraer9594 17 дней назад

      @@cnault3244 praise be onto you the one true voice!
      The giver of glorious suggestions..
      My wife's absolutely hates socks in sandals ...
      So you just gained two followers my lord!

    • @Apollorion
      @Apollorion 17 дней назад

      @@cnault3244 And how about sandals with socks instead?

  • @jbill190
    @jbill190 Месяц назад +5

    10:02 Purpose, the way he is talking about it, is bestowed by a mind. The purpose of Earth, according to humans, is to be a home for humans. But if random cosmic death rays suddenly wiped out all life on Earth, what would be its purpose? It wouldn't have one, as far as anyone could tell. What the caller seems, at this point, to be basically driving at is the question of why we are here at all, and not being satisfied with "I don't know; we just are".
    But sincerely, "I don't know; we just are" is understandably unsatisfying since it is essentially a non-answer; it is still the best answer because it is the only answer I can honestly give. I don't know for sure that we weren't put here for some reason or by something, but all the evidence I have points to us being the result of plain old run-of-the-mill evolution. We're here because we just are. Just like raccoons and fish and coral and frogs and asteroids and stars and literally everything. If you don't know that birds build nests and you see a bird with a stick in its beak, you can't really assume a purpose without already knowing what it probably is. Sometimes birds just play with sticks; for real, look at corvids. They play with stuff all the time.

  • @junodonatus4906
    @junodonatus4906 17 дней назад +3

    Considering that theists often compromise and adjust their religion to suit their own judgement and sensibility religion does not make one a good person. Rather, one is a good person (or not) and then retro fits their religion as the source, while in fact it isn't. It's that person all along.

  • @williamskinner
    @williamskinner 17 дней назад +4

    May or may not, maybe or maybe not, still means "I don't know," then you have yes and no. Always to a "Yes and no question" is three options. Christians have a hard time with this for some reason and I don't know why. Is it ignorance or stupidity or both.

  • @amtlpaul
    @amtlpaul 17 дней назад +6

    Hell no.

  • @amtlpaul
    @amtlpaul 16 дней назад +5

    No. Take, for example, the troll @JimCastleberry. His ONLY objection to abusing children is that he thinks God has unaccountably ruled such behavior off limits. He claims there can be no other valid reason to object to it. Does that sound like a person whose moral outlook has been improved by religion? I think not.

    • @damonkenny3444
      @damonkenny3444 16 дней назад

      Nice strawman of Jim and moral ontology. Why aren’t there 500 messages from QC demanding you provide citations for your accusations?

    • @amtlpaul
      @amtlpaul 16 дней назад

      So, Damon: in the event that it was revealed unto you that God has now decided that humting non-Christians for sport is both fun and righteous, you'd immediately conclude that that was objectively true under your authoritarian concept of objectivity. How could you do otherwise?

    • @amtlpaul
      @amtlpaul 16 дней назад +1

      ​@damonkenny3444 I provided quotations, and Jim went silent.
      Remember, Jim has repeatedly stated that "Without God, all things are permitted." He has also stated that any reasons to abhor any action that aren't "God makes it so" are 'false delusions'.

    • @BlarglemanTheSkeptic2
      @BlarglemanTheSkeptic2 16 дней назад +3

      ​@@amtlpaulit's remarkable how people like Jimbo and DonKey are KEEN to commit numerous atrocities, but are only held back because they think that God wouldn't like it and would punish them. That is, their "moral ontology (🤦)" is ENTIRELY transactional - this is not morality, it's obedience and fear.
      Like most people, I have no desire to murder and "grape", even if I could 100% get away with it. I don't need a carrot or stick, because I have empathy for others. That is REAL morality, devoid of transaction.

  • @danwatson171
    @danwatson171 16 дней назад +2

    None of these brain dead callers can explain their position without trying to hedge and preamble about what they want to say.
    Mat is great every time he says “just answer the fucking question” and I wish that every caller just would.

  • @BlessYourHeart254
    @BlessYourHeart254 16 дней назад +1

    This guy must carry several goalposts around because he keeps moving them, ducking and dodging, then throwing something completely different out.

  • @annangu3160
    @annangu3160 16 дней назад +2

    When you are believer you will say whatever just to defend ur god......even if it sounds stupid u will just defend it❤

  • @mikeoxbig7931
    @mikeoxbig7931 17 дней назад +13

    The intellectually bankrupt need religion to tell them what’s “right” and what’s “wrong”. Same old story.

  • @andrewsad1
    @andrewsad1 14 дней назад

    "There's a 50% chance that evolution is moving toward a goal," this is like saying you have a 50% chance of winning the lottery because you either win or you don't

  • @smochygrice465
    @smochygrice465 17 дней назад +3

    Absolutely not 😮

  • @jackgoff4668
    @jackgoff4668 17 дней назад +9

    I make my own purpose

  • @shmick6079
    @shmick6079 11 дней назад

    I’m glad that I’m not desperate to “know” where the universe came from and why we are here etc.

  • @MK-lh3xd
    @MK-lh3xd 16 дней назад +1

    All that is remaining is the ritual of getting dunked into a body of sause three times to complete his change to atheism.

  • @bobbabai
    @bobbabai 17 дней назад +1

    I really liked this caller at first because he was a clear speaker, his thoughts were organized and he seemed reasonable and it really seemed like he was listening and understanding. And then he just went crazy-idiot with the forgiveness stuff at the end and the 50% chance crap in the middle. And once he started with all that silliness and got reasonable pushback on it, he immediately stopped being a listener.

  • @Reegeed
    @Reegeed 16 дней назад

    Why word "antitheism" is so unknown yet almost everyone describe atheism as such.

  • @andrewmcmillan6972
    @andrewmcmillan6972 16 дней назад

    People truly don’t know how to think. And I’m convinced most people never have. This show has quite taught me how to think and consider things. Not knowing doesn’t mean it makes it likely that something you have not proven to be so is in fact the case. I don’t think belief in god or whatever is necessarily bad, I think it depends how you use it. I think it might often be stupid and unjustified but not always harmful. But most people just believe cause they were taught too (as I once was). People believe out of fear also.

  • @miraichampion3366
    @miraichampion3366 16 дней назад +2

    An "almost atheist", or a theist as they are better known.

  • @unkaumanguy1439
    @unkaumanguy1439 16 дней назад +1

    Why would an all-powerful being create a process that leads to an endgame to achieve their goals? Why not make their creation complete. If I were god, I'd make the pie ready to eat, not raw where it has to be baked. 😊

  • @russbroda7207
    @russbroda7207 16 дней назад

    Call summary : Hello . There could be a purpose. There could be unicorns. Thanks for calling. .

  • @frankrizzo5262
    @frankrizzo5262 17 дней назад +2

    What did one atheist say to the other…… god this dmv is slow!

  • @Devious_Dave
    @Devious_Dave 14 дней назад

    His thinking is still religion-based (e.g. _real_ forgiveness) so he may not escape the confines of the Church unless that changes.

  • @feedingravens
    @feedingravens 17 дней назад +3

    This forgiveness thing was embarassing and shows how little christians thing about morality - not at all.
    (as they OWN morality as they own logic and OWN The Truth, no need to think or know anything about it)
    My standpoint regarding errors, misdeeds, anger, punishment, revenge, ...:
    We are all imperfect - and that makes us able to change, to improve.
    Then we have the Golden Rule of Empaths, treat others like you want to be treated.
    Every one of us makes unintentional errors. No need to get angry about those.
    When it is an error that could have been avoided by another behaviour, and avoided the negative effects,
    then that should be CLEARLY called out.
    When the error-causer would not see that, then drastic actions are appropriate. Scream at your child or even a slap.
    IMPORTANT. It must become clear it is because of the child's action that negatively affected you, other people or endangerd the kid itself.
    When it is clarified what happened, why it is wrong, and how to do it right, so that next time it does not happen again, and then the normal personal relation pre-error is restored, I am persuaded no kid will be left with permanent damages.
    .
    When someone takes DELIBERATELY advantage on me, counting on me not thinking it is worth the effort, THERE I am extremely (probably way too) sensitive.
    I have ZERO tolerance for people that exploit others.
    When people CHANGE their way that that what affects others negatively does not happen again - no problem, the world got better, I can "forgive".
    The justification for "punishment" is
    - some compensation of the produced damages to others
    - to emphasize that such a behaviour is not tolerated, has consequences, and THIS will cause the person to change its behaviour.
    - when the danger is too large that this person will continue harming others, when they areeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee a danger to society, then they have to be locked away - to protect the others.
    Repeat: the goal is to improve the common well-being.

  • @somersetcace1
    @somersetcace1 16 дней назад +1

    I wouldn't even consider a behavior being avoided or embraced as being `good` or `bad,` simply because it's believed to be the decree of a god. That's not being `moral,` it's being conditioned and controlled. However, that's not reality anyway. I've yet to meet a Christian who has disagreed with any moral decree they believe `God,` decreed. Somehow, they always seem to interpret it to fit what they believe to be moral and immoral anyway. So, does religion make you `good?` No, it just gives them an illusionary authority with which to justify imposing their own values on others. Even if it is heavily influenced by the religion they're using.

  • @dennisaulayrobinson
    @dennisaulayrobinson 11 дней назад

    I don't forgive.
    I don't forget.
    I am
    An atheist.

  • @AZ-hg6kw
    @AZ-hg6kw 16 дней назад

    Take the unspoken fear out of this caller and I guarantee that he never makes this call in the first place. This is why religion is poison to critical thinking.

  • @hamborger2200
    @hamborger2200 16 дней назад

    I think Brian confused culture with evolution which has purposes. You could call building a nest culture

  • @tommy32408
    @tommy32408 16 дней назад

    False being a opinion also.8:14

  • @bubbercakes528
    @bubbercakes528 16 дней назад

    The purpose I see in the biblical God is to see how many people he can bring under his spell with no real evidence. After that he will throw those people in a place where you will forever kowtow to him and he will burn forever those smart enough to not be convinced! It makes no sense to me.

  • @joseazorin1703
    @joseazorin1703 16 дней назад

    Cura- padre
    Toturar un animal- toreo
    Amnistiar torturadores y asesinos-transicion.....
    A este juego pueden jugar todos 😊

  • @captainawesome2121
    @captainawesome2121 16 дней назад +2

    Seems to me that this guy is lying about being an atheist

  • @thomasdjonesn
    @thomasdjonesn 15 дней назад

    "Nothing you do matters, nobody's here on purpose, come inside and watch TV." - or - I climbed up through my career path to where I make a decent amount of money. I have a very nice house that is in a park-like setting, one I've spent the better part of a decade making gradual changes just to make it prettier. I have a fine cafe in walking distance. I have a lovely and talented partner, I have three cats, a karaoke rig, grills and smokers and rocket stoves, solar panels, battery packs, and a pantry full of pickles, preserves, and alcohol. What's the purpose? Why the hell NOT? I've done an awful lot of good over my life, who cares if it wasn't effective or long-lasting? It satisfies me. I don't care about dreary Bronze Age fairy tales from some genocidal desert tribe. They can all go pound all that sand out there up each other's asses. I don't buy the ideas of sin, salvation, or redemption. None of you get to speak for your magical man in the sky.

  • @Leszek.Rzepecki
    @Leszek.Rzepecki 16 дней назад

    That was one desperately confused -atheist- theist. He really wants to believe, but just can't find a good religious or scientific reason to, so he's casting around for other, maybe secular reasons for justifying being a believer. Definitely not an athiest or even agnostic.

  • @kimsland999
    @kimsland999 17 дней назад +2

    I questioned faith too, at about 6 years old.

    • @chuckhunter77
      @chuckhunter77 17 дней назад

      Wow, you win the Atheist Olympics, I guess.

    • @kimsland999
      @kimsland999 17 дней назад

      @@chuckhunter77 Inner Circle ;)

    • @beaureguard9107
      @beaureguard9107 17 дней назад +5

      ​@@chuckhunter77 I have no memories of believing in a god.

    • @kimsland999
      @kimsland999 17 дней назад +1

      @@beaureguard9107 I questioned faith > of others 😏

    • @beaureguard9107
      @beaureguard9107 17 дней назад

      @@kimsland999 Is that comment supposed to represent your view or mine? It isn't readily apparent. Don't be afraid to have a straightforward conversation.

  • @seannelson3613
    @seannelson3613 16 дней назад

    What a confused individual...

  • @alecmartinar6372
    @alecmartinar6372 17 дней назад

    Oh Brian, Brian...... grow a pair

  • @bobgarrett7134
    @bobgarrett7134 14 дней назад

    The universe has a purpose. It's for human beings to enjoy eternal happiness sharing Heaven with God, after experiencing what our Declaration of Independence calls Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness on our beautiful, expansive, flourishing planet. What's the rest of our universe for? Providing the astronomical observatory and space telescope industries with many jobs. It keeps thousands of astronomers and astrophysicists employed. Space exploration has a future of unlimited possibilities and employment.

    • @FernLovebond
      @FernLovebond 12 дней назад

      Do you think ignoring the actual content of the video and posting your spam drivel is going to do anything except annoy people? Oh, right, that's the idea. You post this idiotic mush so you can get a reaction, a negative reaction, so you reinforce the in-group narrative about how atheists are refusing your god and isn't it good that you all have the "truth" so you won't be sent to hell. You're just hedging up your in-group homogeneity, keeping the group boundaries intact and reaffirming your current dynamic and maybe a little persecution complex in the bargain. If I see one more thing from you that doesn't actually do anything but spew your witless proselytizing, I'll report you for spam.

  • @Mark1615-zi4er
    @Mark1615-zi4er 17 дней назад +1

    Repent. Believe in Jesus Christ for salvation and become a new person in this life...... Luke 13:3 KJV I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
    Romans 10:9 KJV That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
    2 Corinthians 5:17 KJV Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

    • @quecee
      @quecee 17 дней назад +4

      Does a Christian who are not the born-again type only pent? Or can they also repent? If so, what was their first pent?

    • @ARoll925
      @ARoll925 17 дней назад +4

      No, demonstrate I need to

    • @shrews12001
      @shrews12001 17 дней назад +5

      No. 🙄

    • @DoctorShocktor
      @DoctorShocktor 17 дней назад +5

      Consider that two wrongs never make a right, but that three do.
      Wherever possible, put people on hold.
      Be comforted that in the face of all aridity and disillusionment,
      and despite the changing fortunes of time,
      There is always a big future in computer maintenance.
      Take heart in the bedeepening gloom
      That your dog is finally getting enough cheese.
      And reflect that whatever fortune may be your lot,
      It could only be worse in Milwaukee.
      You are a fluke of the universe.
      You have no right to be here.
      And whether you can hear it or not,
      The universe is laughing behind your back.
      - Book of Hendra and O’Donaghue

    • @chuckhunter77
      @chuckhunter77 17 дней назад +5

      Deut 23:13 - Don't shit where you eat.

  • @annangu3160
    @annangu3160 16 дней назад +1

    When you are believer you will say whatever just to defend ur god......even if it sounds stupid u will just defend it❤