Lisa many women have started to neglect their femininity largely because of the abuse in the streets or sexual harassment at work, how many times are women criticized for their way of dressing saying that if they are raped it is because they were looking to be raped?The number of men who seem to not know the difference between feeling sexually desired in a trusting, loving relationship and being raped?
So true, I constantly ignored so many red flags from my ex. On the phone he was so loving and sweet, in person , a totally different human. It was suck a mind f**k, thank God I snapped out of it. Whoa!
Or we do but don’t want to listen, that has definitely been the case for me. From now on when that happens I’m going to write out my feelings to see if they make sense.
When a person's actions dont match their words and when that person is consistently inconsistent, those are very strong red flags for manipulative tactics. Stay logical and matter of fact, you're less likely to fall for their bs.
If you believe men are like that more often You will actually attract such men, because your brain will focus only on negative, as the brain works as computer program 95 percent. If you believe men are good, your brain will start to notice the good in men, and you will attract good men, because you will react to the good stuff they do. They will be attracted to the fact that you noticed their good personality and skills.
and when you find one and develop that trust..I just realized in the four years I have dated this amazing man, that I have never felt that vibe of panic, however fleeting that my gut has said every time it wasn't safe. the feeling of peace and contentment Ive been blessed with, I've never felt so free and light
I've met a man that took me on this full ride. I wish I would have trusted my gut. Always trust that feeling in your stomach. I was never at ease around him. Stupid me thought it was sweet butterflies, it's never butterflies, it's your body screaming at you to run.
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Try to be gentle with yourself. I've also been there, been recovering. Let's take it as a lesson learned, burn it to the ground, and rise from the ashes 🪷
I felt the same way, interpreted it as butterflies but it was pure anxiety that turned into panic attacks. 🙏🏼🌺 The thing is, when you grow up in an abusive, neglectful environment, you learn to ignore your gut feelings and learn to reason why it’s ‘empathy’ to let unhealed or unhealthy people to cross healthy boundaries. He literally told me he “liked his women” “a certain way” and realized later, it was exactly this type of traumatized background he was looking for in a “sweet” woman. I listened to my gut enough to tell him “don’t fck with me” and kept saying I needed more time. It saved me, he moved on to his next target within a few weeks.
How I wish to meet woman like you some day. This far my kindness has always been abused, and my loyalty has been rewarded with infidelity. Every single time. Makes me think if what women truly want and what they say they want are 2 totally different things 🤔
I dated a guy who religiously studied Robert Greene. I never trusted him but went along with his theatrics because I was so entertained. At one point, I asked the guy why he liked me and he straight up said it was for the mind games and because he noticed that I like to play. I thought it was a compliment because I was a good player. Later on a mutual friend told me it was the opposite- he actually thought I was too easy to play and that’s why he was done with me. The experience haunts me to this day. Thanks Robert Greene!
That means all he wanted was to play mind games. What kind of a guy was this? He was just stringing you along for the ride. You didnt do anything wrong. Please dont blame yourself over this. Now that you can learn from the book "The Art of Seduction" and this video, you can begin to apply a whole new theory on the subject for yourself. This way you can be knowledgeable in the upcoming game with men!❤❤❤
Sorry. Could you go into more detail about this? How did the mutual friend know what your guy was thinking? How can we trust what the mutual friend says? We could all learn from your experience.
Yes but the opposite of hate is not love. Let's say someone injured you physically and on purpose, someone you dnt know, he assaulted you unprovoked. Now you want to do the same to him, and you start looking for him. That doesn't mean you love him. He has to go down, that's all.
My ex was quite a good seducer. He had women left and right. His charm was his contrasting traits. He was masculine, laid back, calm and blunt with his thoughts but at the same time he had something really vulnerable about him. Something that almost makes you want to rescue him. And he was blowing hot and cold. A LOT. I hate him. With passion. He made me learn to keep distance from men who are inconsistent in any way. I never want to be hurt and played like that. Hope he rotts in hell.
You don’t think you played a part in picking him? You claimed he had women left and right…that doesn’t sound like a red flag? Committed guys, by definition, don’t have a lot of women. You seem surprised that he wasn’t very committed….
He did not make you do anything. You allowed it. Unfortunately your hatred for him is also reflected back to you. I hope you are healing. Time will help. Sending you good vibes. Best wishes
Excellent episode! I was seduced by a pro. It took 18 months, but as he would say once in awhile in conversation "I am a very patient man." He was brought into my life to teach me what a seducer is all about. Glad I finally dumped him.
@debielee, I read you; I had a charismatic and charmer seducer, lasted three years, still the fantasy was there , but it was leading nowhere so I dumped him. He chased and chased but to no avail, I was so convinced he was a seducer and I didn’t want to play the game anymore. Walked out, gone, goodbye for ever. Actually these characters are pretty shallow once you get to really know them. Nothing there, empty suits!
@carmenkamberos1156 yes, they are empty people with no conscience. It tore my heart up because my love was so genuine. My guy picker is much wiser today thanks to him. Glad you moved on as you deserve better.
Lisa, I don't know why, but every single time you ask a question, I'm surprised that it's so good, and I shouldn't be surprised by now! You ask really great questions. Some interviewers just go with the flow and ask whatever, but your questions are so so relevant and useful for the listener. It shows how deeply you listen to the interviewee and the preparation behind the interview, and how much you care for the right information to reach the listener and help them. Thank you for being so good at your job!
Wow I’m a little speechless (and you know that doesn’t happen often lol 😉). This really means so much to me because I feel so seen! I prioritize these interviews out of everything that I do and spend at least 8-10 hours per guest reading their books and researching them. I also truly read and take your comments to heart and listen to what it is that you guys need! So truly, thank you for this kind message and for being here supporting others! Appreciate you my homie!
The moments within this where they opened each other's eyes to new insights and anecdotes which complimented his work and her other interviews was very enjoyable.
It cannot be overstated that identifying and healing your attachment style and childhood trauma is THE key to attracting securely-attached and healthy partners. All this other stuff is only necessary if you are trying to navigate relationships through a place of insecure attachment. None of these manipulative types get anywhere with securely-attached people.
That makes a lot of sense. I don’t even know the attachment styles, but I’m sure there’s an abandonment issue in one of them. And I definitely have that. I’m always aware that I’m attracting very controlling and often physically abusive men. It must be something I’m doing, and I wish I could heal myself from it.
It’s truly a sad moment when you come to the reality the man you thought he wanted to become will never be. It’s a the acceptance and realization is a dagger to my heart coming your way terms with reality 😔
The guy I'm seeing right now has been using most of these techniques on me ... the worst part is (I say worst because it goes against my moral compass) I think he sees it as pure fun to manipulate people's emotions, leaving them confused and yet still wanting more. This video gave me a lot of clarity. Thank you.
Unfortunately it won't get better, he will pull you in harder when he feels you pulling away. If your pros and cons list indicate more cons, RUN!! Trust your gut if you're feeling uneasy, there's a reason for it, you're body is reacting and signaling to you to pay attention . You deserve so much more and you will find a healthy loving connection!
experienced this also. took almost 10years to heal from so be very careful not to play along. it will have a lasting impact on your life even when you think you can deal with it. they don't think like a regular person all manipulation is carefully crafted to inflict maximum damage and most is subliminal so you're not even aware until the damage is done. take care please
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I have Robert’s book and read it. When I entered a relationship with a man, I instantly saw his game. Sooooo obvious! Stay educated ladies - don’t let any man EVER have anything over you!
This was a great episode. All of this also holds true for manipulative women. Beware of women that want to be your instant best friend, that seem to good to be true, that make you feel instantly amazing and come on a bit too much too fast. There are no short cuts to lasting friendship. Slow it down and see if they are still the same in six months. Beware if there is zero disagreement and everything you tell them is "Oh, me too.". Let people show you who they are with their actions and not tell you who they are with their words. Grounded people don't need to tell you who they are.
O Me God ! I have one coming my way this Saturday. She's come out of the blue out of nowhere after all these years and wants to lunch ! She makes me feel like her bestie and disppears again ! Am I missing something homies ?
@@healingypsy Inconsistent people are unreliable people. Enjoy your lunch, be conscious of not oversharing, enjoy the company and adjust your expectations. Never be too available for inconsistent people. However, if you enjoy her company just enjoy it for what it is -- an acquaintance to have a nice lunch with and nothing more.
I’m not quite sure about this with women. One of my girlfriends that I worked with (trained her in sales) - ended up saying after a couple of weeks of working together “You’re stuck with me for life” - it’s been a year- she had been the most loving, kind , gracious women I’ve known. She’s had my back 100% through some real heavy shit. She came to my grandmas funeral Another one of my girlfriends- i met at a yoga studio…I knew from the moment I saw her that I adored her and wanted to be her friend. We warmed up to each other over a couple of years, but are very connected now. She recently gave me a great recommendation for a therapist. The girlfriend that really hurt me warmed up to me over time, like you would normally expect- a “normal” time line. Once I totally opened up to her later in our friendship about something I wasn’t proud about and difficulties I was going through- she judged me and left the friendship for a period of time. Came back into my life when my grandma was on her death bed. I texted her I wanted to be friends again but I’m afraid because she abandoned me before- then she totally ghosted me- no response- no call. She never told me who she was. I think it’s a matter about associating with women who have integrity.
100 percent, I feel like my husband did this and i have left him because I have never felt truly loved. Now he is trying hard but I dont trust him, why couldnt he just be real and transparent that would have endeared me to him . Humility is a beautiful thing, this game is revolting to me
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As a woman, I look for depth, intelligence, yes, kindness or good values in the other person. Usually that comes from a person's struggles and failures in life. So yeah, a person who's self-aware and emotionally accessible and with the same values as I have.
@ You are 100% right, it wasn’t an easy journey. After ending a toxic relationship and friendship with I was engaged for decades. I spent 5 years working on myself, changing my perspective about life/society. Became more productive; studying, researching neuroscience empowering findings, philanthropy, practicing mindfulness, yoga and traveling solo. Eventually, I fall in love with myself and realised that, I don’t need to secure a man/ woman in order to be happy. My happiness and success in life totally depends on me.
I've read the entire book multiple times, and I absolutely loved it. Robert Greene breaks down the different types of seducers into archetypes. I’ve even tried some of the tactics described, and they really work! Now, I can quickly recognize when someone is attempting to use any of the psychological strategies outlined in the book on me.
This was enlightening. I had someone give me that full seduction treatment and it felt SO genuine. Hearing the whole process laid out this way is a wake up call as to how calculated it all was. Watch out for yourselves and eachother out there ladies.
I had the same reaction to this. Although my soon-to-be ex husband always donated small books and paperbacks--so there's no record that he read Robert's book--I feel he must have read it. The 'seduction' was just too exact.
I heard he had a good line, l heard he had a style, and so l went to see him, and listen for awhile. And there he was this young boy singing clear and strong. He was strumming my pain with his fingers, singing my life with his words,killing me softly with his song, telling my whole life, killing me softly with his song ...Lisa probably doesn't know it, but Robert surely does
@@nicholeb2746Ahh, I don't love that view. But, men view women as prey and objects to possess, so maybe in their view any tactic to hunt us is warranted. Good thing, the tables can be turned. I just avoid men and relationships. I'm so done.
Not saying it’s not a good book but it’s just not the same thing. Women don’t ‘seduce’ men socially in the same way because men do the approaching and women do the choosing. The psychology is just wrong.
Didn’t he also write the 48 laws of power? 🤨 look at him well. Does he look like the person to take sexual advice from ? It 💯 makes sense but do u really think it works for him? Or it works cause u as a person knows who u are?
@@HkFinn83exactly. His advice probably doesn’t even work for him. And if it does, it’s works on his scale. Will work on thier a scale as well but we can clearly see it’s not really about the strategy if SOMEONE IS NOT ATTRACTED TO U🤷🏾♀️💯
Wait. Trust NO ONE? That means you DON'T see who they really are. If you see that they're rock solid and trustworthy, with a long history of close friends with whom they're accountable and transparent, you can learn that they are trustworthy and you should trust them. The point is to learn and observe. The best book I ever read about training your intuition is "The Gift of Fear" by Gavin de Becker. Trust doesn't need to be blind or non-observant. Trust is to be earned, but trust is ok in the right situations. My grandparents on both sides absolutely trusted each other for over 70 years in each marriage, they were each other's confidante, each other's best supporter and cheerleader, each other's safe place - they never bitched behind each other's back like some couples, never mocked each other. They had earned each other's trust... They also kept their flirty attention on each other long after they were very old and decrepit - patting each other on the button, winking, saying sweet things... They really knew how to have a good relationship. They also both kept up separate, outside interests that made them interested in each other.
He says “when someone’s being disrespectful and malice, don’t take it personal because it’s about them!” Yeah well whatever 💩 they’re going through or went through, they can take that ahit elsewhere!
I learned from my last relationship that was Toxic was too never let a person rush me in any type of relationship. It made me feel very uncomfortable . If I had trusted my gut instincts I also would have avoided the worst relationship ever. My ex mentioned living in another country several times, I always told him I had no interest in giving up my home, I also stopped visiting my friends except when I left my house because of his Rage. The longer I stayed in this relationship the worst it got. Thank you Lisa for having Mr. Greene on your Podcast. I definitely could relate to what he was saying.
You can be sure that there are people like me who absolutely don't miss anything and have never depended from a man emotionally, I have no emotional weaknesses, games have never worked for me. Never depend on anyone to be happy, period. There is a life beyond romantic relationships, wait for the right person or it is better to be alone.
Lots of lucky people our there too. I imagine you have acquired some skills and defenses but it really just comes down to luck. Born into a blessed life is luck, not being abused is luck, not being taken advantage of a young person is also luck. Escaping adolescence as a girl without having been abused is quite literally a 50/50 shot today, if not even worse. When we have fully grown through old men working to manipulate and groom young girls everywhere now it really does just come down to your luck.
I don't there's such a human be it a men or women. Don't kid yourselves. You're biologically build to be dependent on others emotionally especially women. It's the leading rate of suic***e for women. Not feeling loved and supported. .At max you're less dependent on others but never fully independent.
Robert Greene is a true gift to anyone who can draw from the well of his knowledge. I literally have his books and videos under the nickname step dad's advice..... thank you so much for this interview Lisa B.
I was taught in Recovery- Feelings aren't facts. For some reason that made me disconnect from my intuition. It was a good line when used in a positive way- but now i get to let the pendulum swing back to center, and begin TRUSTING myself again❤🎉
So much of Recovery 12 Step work is spot-on but, like everything, it has its limitations. Dr Gabor Maté says the root of addiction is disconnection from ourselves, from our inner being; could also be disconnection from our HP. Interestingly, what Robert Greene says just after the 24:00 min mark sounds a lot like Step 10s.
Lisa you are so correct when you said if a woman emotional respnse over something even if it's legitimate we're seen difficult , dramatic etc. What's more frustrating is we're not taken seriously . Whether it's in a relationship or in the workplace . I can't when a man is dismissive in the work place. These same men get emotional . They get mad , upset. Start throwing a fit . But they think their emotions need to be taken seriously and all men support each other in that. But if a woman brought up several good frustrating legitimate points in the work place and/or got frustrated emotionally over the same exact thing in work place as that same man did, then we aren't taken seriously. They call us emotionally dramatic , argumentive Etc. What's worse they'll promote that same man in a higher position saying he takes the job seriously , notices things others don't and he's not afraid to speak up. He's a leader. But that woman who is the exact same way as that man, they'll never promote her. They'll blow off her off and say she's too dramatic and emotional. When a man gets emotional in a relationship ( sad, upset , angryetc) over something he expects the woman to take him seriously . In fact they demand it in many ways. Either by what they say or their actions in what they do. But if the woman shows those same emotions a man can roll his eyes and make comments like here we go again. You're so dramatic and emotional . They can ignore it and call it nagging as well. If these men tell their buddies about it, their budfues will say women are so dramatic Ann's emotionally unstable or she must be on her period. But if that same man tells his buddies about his upset emotions then they back him up. They say he has every right to feel that way and his woman should take him seriously and respect his feelings.. I know this went a little off topic about seduction but i do feel in a relationship that type of behavior can still have an affect on that person. It can be manipulative. It can lead to a person being manipulated to try harder which can turn into trauma bond.
Heres the thing, Im going to buy the book. My issue is that it all seems like a game. You can't control another person. Keep him chasing, for how long? Keep him hunting, for how long? Be mysterious okay for how long. It just seems that men want what they can't have, and thats the lure of it all. Once you move in, then what? There's no mystery there. It just seems to be up and down. Left and right all to keep a mans interest. If he gets bored, if he loses interest, ect ect ect. On and on and on. When do people get real.
Women hold on after their interest is gone bc they do not have the sexual freedoms granted to men. If they did, they might not stick to one guy. They're not all that after all. Women have a more abiding interest in other women who are more naturally interesting & dynamic creatures. Times, though, are changing, but women are still socially restricted sexually.
If there is any sign of negging right at the beginning... It won't get better. My Ex ranted a lot about single Mums 18 months ago & how bad they were for the family structure. I would be lying if I said it didn't impact me towards feeling guilt as a single mom, & I moved more towards him because he seemed to want to save me from being a single mum through marriage & children etc. Worst mistake I ever made. 18 months later, it has completely blown up when I finally became very serious about leaving. I tried to leave for a while... I do suspect now that negging may in fact be a sign post for obvious deficiencys in a man, so I'm on the look out for negging in potential future partners now. I won't tolerate it anymore, especially the mixed signals in the beginning.
@jumbolumps666 It's not so much about Vilification as it is about manipulating the Woman to not want to be single anymore. I was single 18 months ago & trying to avoid relationships because I was struggling & I was determined to stay single so i could avoid more pain. By guilting me about raising my kids alone, it opened up an insecurity within me that was caused by him, so I ran towards him in a bid for comfort. Then he progressed things & started expressing his interest in marriage & having a family himself. Negging is about making a person want a relationship with you, to appease the hurt they caused in you. But unfortunately it's hard to recognise that's what they're doing to you. They're trying to hurt you to get you & it's not always obvious if they hurt a naturally occuring insecurity already within you.
You should only date single dads, because dating is very hard for women without kids. It's wishful thinking to believe that a guy without kids wants to be in a situation with a single mom. These types of guys usually end up abusing the kids. There are checks and balances when two people are in the same situation, and I don't understand why anyone with kids would pursue someone without kids.
By the way: I love it when 2 people can come together happily. It‘s like watching and know that there is love. Doesn’t have to be with me but I must know that there are people who are happy!
It's the little old couples who evidently are still looking out for each other in their 80s that are especially endearing for me. I hope it doesn't become a thing of the past but I suspect it will.
Obviously this goes both ways. I’ve been in a lot of relationships as a man and there have been times I didn’t know my value and realized women were manipulating me. I’ve always been a quiet, super fit, pretty good looking guy but raised to be humble and kind. A lot of women took advantage of my kindness. I’m still the same guy but now I noticed when a woman’s manipulating me quick. Also it’s hard because we live in a world that makes it hard to trust anything and anyone.
I USED TO BE A SIREN AND WAS FOR MANY YEARS. I HAVE RECENTLY GONE THROUGH AN AWAKENING AND AM NOT EVEN THE SAME PERSON I USED TO BE. IM THE COMPLETE OPPOSITE LOL. THIS INFO IS INCREDIBLY INTERESTING!! TY FOR SHARING AND WAS A GREAT EPISODE!!❤❤❤
Dishonest vs Honest seducer. Is the attempted friendship genuine or not ? ✨ Listen to your first instincts about the person. ✨Effort to be a friend is rushed ✨Eyes vs mouth mismatch.
At first, I wasn't a fan of his work, but now I find him to be a valuable source of information. I have read all of his books, which I see as essential guidance in life. These books can have different effects on readers, providing both advice and caution. Understanding my own character helps me navigate through the content, being cautious of potential dangers but also being assertive when necessary. Im a huge fan🎉@Robertgreen Thank you I wish i had found his books before clearly making wrong choices! Thanks Lisa for having him!
Yes , it helped me alot to avoid cons in life because they look for lonely and depressed people. I recognized a con on dating site instantly when he asked me how depressed i am . On the surface it looked a simple question but when i said not even 1% he was disappointed. There were other red flags too but i was not paying much attention to them as we don't meet such cons every day.
Fell for it hook and sinker. Trust will never be the same for me. Anyone even remotely using the same words & tactics turns me off to no end, sadly, even if it's sincere
I guess the issue with all of this, is that it highlights the problem with humanity. We know we should want a genuine relationship where 2 become 1 and each are open and honest to eachother, but in reality what we really do is use seduction and are seduced even without trying. Seduction is being ingenuine and playing around and using the ugly insecurities and weaknesses of your partner. You should not have to be "exciting" for your partner to stay with you, you should have a meeting of the minds and just feel good with who the person is naturally.
Thats total baloney, my husband and i had love at first sight, right away he took me on week vacation in the bahamas and we had a whirlwind romance, married a few months later, and 10 exciting and amazing years together, maybe you should not judge the world by your boring experiences😂😂😂
@MetaPhysStore0770 you are very lucky that jumping into a relationship with someone based on their looks (first sight) actually turned out that your personalities worked well together. Countless people fall victim to love bombing type whirlwind romances and end up very damaged.
"You should not have to be 'exciting' for your partner to stay with you" I think this is an interesting way of putting it. There are so many other positive experiences in life than excitement, and I believe it speaks about our society that we tend to judge the quality of a relationship based on the strength of the emotions involved over anything else. That said, I've always thought one of the biggest issues people have with maintaining some level of romance or passion is one of taking things for granted. I think if you passively let your partner (or friend) become so deeply ingrained into your life that you barely notice them anymore, it's a bad sign. And keeping things "exciting" can be a fast track to making sure the both of you are still paying attention to one another. I don't think it's the only way, so sometimes I wonder if the problem is that it's the only thing most people know how to do in that regard... and not just with relationships but with their entire lives. They always need that new hit, that change of pace, and eventually other people just become a means to that end :/
@nitswaa1935 I personally believe, at least for me, that if two people both share the same "north star" and by that I mean central core belief that you both turn to for psychological well-being, then the two of you are a constant reminder to eachother of where to find peace and joy. So whether life is good or bad, a struggle or a breeze, you always have a very important core reason to stay committed to the person. Life might be boring or dull, but there is never anything dull about having someone who re awakens your core beliefs that you rely on for happiness
@@nitswaa1935 I largely agree with you. I think it's about finding your niche. Finding your place or person or thing (or home as they say). You only really know when you get there and I doubt you'd want to leave. But not everyone finds it or who, and in the interim, they make do with what they've found, or continue searching. It's about alignment.
Trusting your gut is only as accurate as your awareness of yourself If you are not aware of yourself You do not know if your gut is instinct or insecurity
@43:00 i was married to a true narcissist. I was isolated from friends and family. He was it, he became my everything. I thought, of course, it was love. I saw actions, tho, that were opposite of what he was 'lovingly' saying to me. I always tell my friends he kept me happy enough to not ask questions about his other life. He ended up walking out, after many years of marriage, with someone from his 'other' life. She was all of 23 years old and he was 54. Fortunately for me, im rid of the lying, cheating, narcissitic seducer.
It's not exactly rocket science is it? Shame though, this advice came 15 years too late, since most men are done putting up with women anymore. 13 reasons why the same 1% of chads are using you for sex. Shocking I know.
That was a good point about the negative comment being about them not you. Just the other day I saw a stream of really nasty comments on a post from one person which set off a domino effect of defensive comments from others. I don't know why I did it but I commented very politely something like "oh my goodness, you're very angry. Do you think you have may anger issues or a personality disorder? Would it be a good idea to speak with your doctor or therapist?" I was kind of waiting for a slew of vitriol to come my way. But nothing. They didn't comment again. I do hope it was taken in the way it was meant.
Another fantastic episode with a great guest, and of course, the shining star Lisa showcasing her natural talent to make every conversation so enjoyable. ❤
Lisa, Really useful, entertaining and thought-provoking content! Thanks for working so hard to put this out to the world, so we can all increase our perspective!
@ I totally feel you on that! Just yuck lol! So thankful now to know what I know but it doesn’t make it any less scarier to have fake people try to enter your life and you have to be on guard. I pray for genuine, authentic, true connections for real people who will give the same. Much love and peace 💕
even though..this would not save you anything. You would fall for that guy anyway;-)) Come on.. Everyone of us has made those mistakes for their own life- experience.
If you believe men are like that more often You will actually attract such men, because your brain will focus only on negative, as the brain works as computer program 95 percent. If you believe men are good, your brain will start to notice the good in men, and you will attract good men, because you will react to the good stuff they do. They will be attracted to the fact that you noticed their good personality and skills.
It’s important, yet sad, that we need to be made aware of such malevolent behavior and deceiving tactics some men use! It’s necessary especially for ladies now! Thank you for this! It’s really nice clean, wholesome appearance. Effective, classy language. presents honesty. That true statements spoken genuinely effectively accomplish. Thanks for bringing the author and for making the presentation in effort to do good things for us.
He was very good at appearing authentic. He even faked tears in his eyes when I walked away from the workplace (we worked together) yet he has made no effort to keep in touch since I’ve left, even though we live near each other and shop in the same place
Signs You're Dating A Severely Avoidant Attachment Person - Ken Reid podcast 🌞 Avoidant's Are Too Good At Dating -Ken Reid podcast 🌞 The Impact Of Lovebombing with Shanel Whitney podcast 🌞 The Avoidance Of Anxious Attachment Ken Reid podcast 🌞 Avoidant Attacher Gaslighting -Ken Reid podcast 🌞 The Boomerang Avoidant' - Ken Reid podcast 🌞 The Real Reason Avoidant Attachers Break Up With You - Ken Reid podcast 🌞 Explaining They're Just Not That Into You --Ken Reid podcast 🌞 Why You Choose The Wrong People-Ken Reid podcast 🌞 Why You Didn't See The Red Flags -Ken Reid podcast 🌞 Healing From A Breakup-Ken Reid podcast ♥️ What You Need To Do In Order To Recover Off The Back Of A Bad Breakup - Ken Reid podcast ♥️ From Self Love To Self Healing -Sam Vaknin podcast ♥️ Take Back Your Life Own It! Sam Vaknin podcast ♥️
The fact for me is when I like someone I feel that I want them to know, quite a few times I've waited and avoided to pursue the person too much because the man should chase, but they ended up not chasing me and I ended up with kind of an ache inside for not showing them how I really felt... I don't know, I feel like we can lose sight of what we really want in these games, seems like so much fun until you don't know where you're going and then all of a sudden you're going nowhere because one of the two people (if not both) is exhausted and tired to attempt to decode the other's behaviour... of course this is just my personal experience
Hopefully men know a woman’s reciprocity and presence are a green light. I know though, it feels like if I don’t hold back everything goes too fast. It’s not wanting to play a game but it probably looks like it.
Writing is an inward adventure and exciting. I agree that some manipulators use suspense, and leave stuff out and try to get you to chase. I hate being manipulated to do what a person wants. It makes me so angry. I prefer more freedom and a direct request. So I can chose how and when I can oblige.
Brilliant interview, and I love the fact that Lisa doesn’t interrupt Robert’s flow when he’s talking. Fantastic questions and a very enlightening interview. Thank you. 😊
20 or 21 minutes in, robert is describing exactly how trauma bonds develop. Everything he describes is actually part of abusive relationships or narcissistically abusive relationships. It is scary that he understands these things so well and has basically written a manifesto on how to subtly abuse others using these tactics.
The masculine role isn't actually a bad thing. Look at him, for example. In the masculine role but using his masculine role to harm you . Use your masculine side to pursue him, ask the right questions, get your answers and leave.
Know yourself and your attachment style. Behavior is a language. 5 Boundaries You Must Set With Men -;Jonathon Aslay podcast 🌞 5 Shocking Behaviors You Should Never Tolerate In A Man -Jonathon Aslay podcast 🌞 Signs You're Dating A Severely Avoidant Attachment Person podcast 🌞🌞 Avoidant's Are Too Good At Dating -Ken Reid podcast 🌞 The Impact Of Lovebombing with Shanel Whitney podcast 🌞 Why You Didn't See The Red Flags -Ken Reid podcast 🌞 Why You Choose The Wrong People-Ken Reid podcast 🌞 Communicating With Avoidant Attachers-Ken Reid podcast 🌞 Avoidant Attacher Gaslighting -Ken Reid podcast 🌞 The Real Reason Avoidant Attachers Break Up With You - Ken Reid podcast 🌞 The Avoidance Of Anxious Attachment -Ken Reid podcast 🌞 Explaining They're Just Not That Into You --Ken Reid podcast 🌞 The Boomerang Avoidant' -Ken Reid podcast 🌞 Healing From A Breakup-Ken Reid podcast ♥️ What You Need To Do In Order To Recover Off The Back Of A Bad Breakup -Ken Reid podcast ♥️ Interrogate Your Partners Their Past Is Your Future-Sam Vaknin podcast 🌞 From Self Love To Self Healing -Sam Vaknin podcast ♥️ Take Back Your Life Own It! Sam Vaknin podcast ♥️
So many concepts to grasp. I’m not even able to catch on if a man is interested in me. I’m told I’m unapproachable, my standards are too high, I’m too independent. I don’t need a man but would like one to share life with. Male energy is necessary in my life to keep balance. It’s equal give and take. I’ve read the book and am blown away at how so much time is spent on not being real. I know though that being authentic, real, honest and straightforward is not welcomed.
Hi Lisa here's an example of a chip at a value that happened to me with my diagnosed anti social personality dissordered ex husband. I was raised Catholic so strongly pro life. I was happy in my career and looking into masters programs. It was clear kids would not be in the picture for a few years. He had rushed marriage already (within 8 mo of dating). He started sending me videos of how birth control induces abortion in other words. I became morally disturbed so i stopped taking it. Within a month he got me pregnant (without details). And was less covert (violent actually)with the second child 2 years later. Again when I was trying to resume my career. He turned out a full blown predator even toward our children. We have permanent DVPOs thankfully. Stay aware ladies.
Hi, some men are actually genuinely interesting, not because of the way they act but it’s just part of them. the problem is lack of trust in this generation!!!
first 10 minutes, pretty much sums up why no one’s gonna bother getting married anymore. Imagine having to go through this much thought and psychology just to find somebody.!
Best Robert Greene interview ever 😊. He seems more playful during this and it felt more conversational and natural. Didn't want it to end !! Thankyou ❤❤
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Lisa many women have started to neglect their femininity largely because of the abuse in the streets or sexual harassment at work, how many times are women criticized for their way of dressing saying that if they are raped it is because they were looking to be raped?The number of men who seem to not know the difference between feeling sexually desired in a trusting, loving relationship and being raped?
Thank you for having me on the podcast Lisa.
Thanks for being on the podcast Robert ❤ I love watching your work.
Suckering
I learned so much from you. Some people are surprised I discovered them. Toxic narcissists and sociopaths. Thank you.
Robert, you are so sexy! I'm seduced for years since I saw you!
Thanks heaps! Great interview!
In conclusion. We don’t pay enough attention to our gut’s feelings.
This!!! I didn’t listen to my gut😩 and I sure do feel like he seduced me and now I’m completely heartbroken 💔
Suggestion! Stop relying on your limbic system and start using your brain!
So true, I constantly ignored so many red flags from my ex. On the phone he was so loving and sweet, in person , a totally different human. It was suck a mind f**k, thank God I snapped out of it. Whoa!
Yes and maybe this dude should also stop writing these weird predat.books. After all he’s a man too
Or we do but don’t want to listen, that has definitely been the case for me. From now on when that happens I’m going to write out my feelings to see if they make sense.
When a person's actions dont match their words and when that person is consistently inconsistent, those are very strong red flags for manipulative tactics. Stay logical and matter of fact, you're less likely to fall for their bs.
You see this in attorneys a lot!!! 😂😂😂
EXACTLY! Plug your ears and watch what they DO!
All these GAMES are responsible for the high divorce rate. Be honest, be real, honor your own values & morality.
The most manipulative person is a person who knows this, so they make their actions match
- Yes, usually in public but in private the 🎭 often slip or are intentionally removed to cause cognitive dissonance.
Don’t let the “I trusted someone who betrayed me “ bring you down. There are plenty of good people in this world.
If you believe men are like that more often
You will actually attract such men, because your brain will focus only on negative,
as the brain works as computer program 95 percent.
If you believe men are good, your brain will start to notice the good in men, and you will attract good men, because you will react to the good stuff they do.
They will be attracted to the fact that you noticed their good personality and skills.
I hope to draw more of these people into my life as my friends and one good male partner. Thank you for the encouragement.
@@franChangeIsFreedom You will
@@franChangeIsFreedomSame, I almost just met people with bad intentions..
and when you find one and develop that trust..I just realized in the four years I have dated this amazing man, that I have never felt that vibe of panic, however fleeting that my gut has said every time it wasn't safe. the feeling of peace and contentment Ive been blessed with, I've never felt so free and light
I've met a man that took me on this full ride. I wish I would have trusted my gut. Always trust that feeling in your stomach. I was never at ease around him. Stupid me thought it was sweet butterflies, it's never butterflies, it's your body screaming at you to run.
The Gift Of Fear by Gavin De Becker
Men That Can't Love by Stephen A Carter - avoidant attachment
Safe People by Henry Cloud
Boundaries by Henry Cloud
Love Yourself Like Your Life Depends On It by Kamal Ravikant ♥️
Complex PTSD From Surviving To Thriving by Pete Walker
Radical discernment and vetting with who you love and trust.
Signs You're Dating A Severely Avoidant Attachment Person - Ken Reid podcast 🌞
Avoidant's Are Too Good At Dating -Ken Reid podcast 🌞
The Avoidance Of Anxious Attachers - Ken Reid podcast 🌞
What You Need To Do In Order To Recover Off The Back Of A Bad Breakup -Ken Reid podcast ♥️
Healing From A Breakup-Ken Reid podcast ♥️
From Self Love To Self Healing -Sam Vaknin podcast ♥️
Take Back Your Life Own It! Sam Vaknin podcast ♥️
Explaining They're Just Not That Into You --Ken Reid podcast 🌞
The Boomerang Avoidant' - Ken Reid podcast 🌞
Why You Choose The Wrong People-Ken Reid podcast 🌞
Insecure Attachment - Sam Vaknin podcast 🌞
Interrogate Your Partners Their Past Is Your Future-Sam Vaknin podcast 🌞
Try to be gentle with yourself. I've also been there, been recovering. Let's take it as a lesson learned, burn it to the ground, and rise from the ashes 🪷
I felt the same way, interpreted it as butterflies but it was pure anxiety that turned into panic attacks. 🙏🏼🌺
The thing is, when you grow up in an abusive, neglectful environment, you learn to ignore your gut feelings and learn to reason why it’s ‘empathy’ to let unhealed or unhealthy people to cross healthy boundaries.
He literally told me he “liked his women” “a certain way” and realized later, it was exactly this type of traumatized background he was looking for in a “sweet” woman.
I listened to my gut enough to tell him “don’t fck with me” and kept saying I needed more time. It saved me, he moved on to his next target within a few weeks.
@aaloha2902love that! Ha
That’s not always true. I gave a guy butterflies and I’m not somebody that would ever hurt anyone not intentionally.🤦♀️
I can wholeheartedly say that I appreciate and I am attracted to a kind men. I don’t think they’re weak at all! Selfish men are a huge turn off.
I agree
The biggest turn off well one of em lol
How I wish to meet woman like you some day. This far my kindness has always been abused, and my loyalty has been rewarded with infidelity. Every single time. Makes me think if what women truly want and what they say they want are 2 totally different things 🤔
@@Jessica-gy7cchorrific bad breath comes in second place.
No, sister. That just means you haven't met the right narcissist yet.
I dated a guy who religiously studied Robert Greene. I never trusted him but went along with his theatrics because I was so entertained. At one point, I asked the guy why he liked me and he straight up said it was for the mind games and because he noticed that I like to play. I thought it was a compliment because I was a good player. Later on a mutual friend told me it was the opposite- he actually thought I was too easy to play and that’s why he was done with me. The experience haunts me to this day. Thanks Robert Greene!
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Another words, you were not up to his intellectual level!
That means all he wanted was to play mind games. What kind of a guy was this? He was just stringing you along for the ride. You didnt do anything wrong. Please dont blame yourself over this. Now that you can learn from the book "The Art of Seduction" and this video, you can begin to apply a whole new theory on the subject for yourself. This way you can be knowledgeable in the upcoming game with men!❤❤❤
Sorry. Could you go into more detail about this? How did the mutual friend know what your guy was thinking? How can we trust what the mutual friend says? We could all learn from your experience.
Were you in a sexual relationship?
A therapist told me run from seduction- learn to appreciate substance.
I like that!
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Beware of seducing spirits
Best comment! ❤
It's hard when people seduce you by faking substance
Love this! I can tell you that gut feeling never lies. One thing a seducer will do is to get you to open up but will not open up themselves
Thank you for drawing attention to this crucial point.
You open up only if you are an explainer. And most seducers to pretend to open up, but they are telling lies.
The opposite of love is not hate. The opposite of love is indifference.
Thank you for another great show!
Opposite of love is fear.
Yes but the opposite of hate is not love. Let's say someone injured you physically and on purpose, someone you dnt know, he assaulted you unprovoked. Now you want to do the same to him, and you start looking for him. That doesn't mean you love him. He has to go down, that's all.
My ex was quite a good seducer. He had women left and right. His charm was his contrasting traits. He was masculine, laid back, calm and blunt with his thoughts but at the same time he had something really vulnerable about him. Something that almost makes you want to rescue him. And he was blowing hot and cold. A LOT.
I hate him. With passion. He made me learn to keep distance from men who are inconsistent in any way. I never want to be hurt and played like that. Hope he rotts in hell.
You don’t think you played a part in picking him? You claimed he had women left and right…that doesn’t sound like a red flag? Committed guys, by definition, don’t have a lot of women. You seem surprised that he wasn’t very committed….
He did not make you do anything. You allowed it. Unfortunately your hatred for him is also reflected back to you. I hope you are healing. Time will help. Sending you good vibes. Best wishes
You still miss him :)
The replies are very victim blaming, you were clearly manipulated whether you saw early signs or not. I hope you're doing well!
Amen 🙌
Run far away from those who don't give you peace. And NEVER think a man wants to be your friend
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Well, he may WANT more than friendship...
Nothing really wrong with seducing or being seduced as long as your intention is a genuine relationship and not using the person.
Seduction is beautiful if driven by good intentions ❤
Sounds like a slippery
Slope
Totally agree!! Seduction doesn’t always come from ill intentions.
Exactly correct there are no rules in seduction
Most used people are the married couple. She works for free, supplies sex and submit to him.
He pays for everything or share.
Excellent episode! I was seduced by a pro. It took 18 months, but as he would say once in awhile in conversation "I am a very patient man." He was brought into my life to teach me what a seducer is all about. Glad I finally dumped him.
Why? What's wrong with him?
Whoa, an ex would say that to me too! I wonder if we dated the same dude.
@@ssmith8758 are you from Michigan or north Carolina?
@debielee, I read you; I had a charismatic and charmer seducer, lasted three years, still the fantasy was there , but it was leading nowhere so I dumped him. He chased and chased but to no avail, I was so convinced he was a seducer and I didn’t want to play the game anymore. Walked out, gone, goodbye for ever. Actually these characters are pretty shallow once you get to really know them. Nothing there, empty suits!
@carmenkamberos1156 yes, they are empty people with no conscience. It tore my heart up because my love was so genuine. My guy picker is much wiser today thanks to him. Glad you moved on as you deserve better.
Lisa, I don't know why, but every single time you ask a question, I'm surprised that it's so good, and I shouldn't be surprised by now! You ask really great questions. Some interviewers just go with the flow and ask whatever, but your questions are so so relevant and useful for the listener. It shows how deeply you listen to the interviewee and the preparation behind the interview, and how much you care for the right information to reach the listener and help them. Thank you for being so good at your job!
Wow I’m a little speechless (and you know that doesn’t happen often lol 😉). This really means so much to me because I feel so seen! I prioritize these interviews out of everything that I do and spend at least 8-10 hours per guest reading their books and researching them. I also truly read and take your comments to heart and listen to what it is that you guys need! So truly, thank you for this kind message and for being here supporting others! Appreciate you my homie!
The moments within this where they opened each other's eyes to new insights and anecdotes which complimented his work and her other interviews was very enjoyable.
@@LisaBilyeu I must say the work you put in truly shows! Thank you ❤️
@LisaBilyeu L B you are so sweet! Kudos ❤
I agree…Lisa is wonderful all the way around. Love her
It cannot be overstated that identifying and healing your attachment style and childhood trauma is THE key to attracting securely-attached and healthy partners. All this other stuff is only necessary if you are trying to navigate relationships through a place of insecure attachment. None of these manipulative types get anywhere with securely-attached people.
Amen homie! 🙌
Exactly...
That makes a lot of sense. I don’t even know the attachment styles, but I’m sure there’s an abandonment issue in one of them. And I definitely have that. I’m always aware that I’m attracting very controlling and often physically abusive men. It must be something I’m doing, and I wish I could heal myself from it.
Much, much, much easier said than done!
Great comment!
It’s truly a sad moment when you come to the reality the man you thought he wanted to become will never be. It’s a the acceptance and realization is a dagger to my heart coming your way terms with reality 😔
The guy I'm seeing right now has been using most of these techniques on me ... the worst part is (I say worst because it goes against my moral compass) I think he sees it as pure fun to manipulate people's emotions, leaving them confused and yet still wanting more. This video gave me a lot of clarity. Thank you.
Detatch
Unfortunately it won't get better, he will pull you in harder when he feels you pulling away. If your pros and cons list indicate more cons, RUN!! Trust your gut if you're feeling uneasy, there's a reason for it, you're body is reacting and signaling to you to pay attention . You deserve so much more and you will find a healthy loving connection!
experienced this also. took almost 10years to heal from so be very careful not to play along. it will have a lasting impact on your life even when you think you can deal with it. they don't think like a regular person all manipulation is carefully crafted to inflict maximum damage and most is subliminal so you're not even aware until the damage is done. take care please
You should leave. He will hurt you.
❤detatch❤heal❤move towards self love❤ lite❤peace❤
The unfortunate gift of hypervigilance is these cues becoming so much more easy to pick up on
As someone with C-PTSD - I caught a seducer. Hypervigilance definitely gave me that gift. He was a damn criminal!
Seduced and hooked. It became like an addiction and it was horrible to detach from them 🥺
Breaking the cycle is what counts! Rejection is protection. Save yourself. Radical discernment.
The Boomerang Avoidant - Ken Reid podcast 🌞
Signs You're Dating A Severely Avoidant Attachment Person - Ken Reid podcast 🌞
The Limitations Of Attachment Theory - Ken Reid podcast 🌞
The Impact Of Lovebombing with Shanel Whitney podcast 🌞
Avoidant Attacher Gaslighting -Ken Reid podcast 🌞
The Real Reason Avoidant Attachers Break Up With You - Ken Reid podcast 🌞
Why You Didn't See The Red Flags - Ken Reid podcast 🌞
Why You Choose The Wrong People-Ken Reid podcast 🌞
Interrogate Your Partners Their Past Is Your Future-Sam Vaknin podcast 🌞
Explaining They're Just Not That Into You--Ken Reid podcast 🌞
The Avoidance Of Anxious Attachers - Ken Reid podcast 🌞
Healing From A Breakup -Ken Reid podcast ♥️
What You Need To Do In Order To Recover Off The Back Of Bad Breakup-Ken Reid podcast ♥️
From Self Love To Self Healing -Sam Vaknin podcast ♥️
Take Back Your Life Own It! Sam Vaknin podcast ♥️
Seek Good Character-David Tian podcast 🌞
5 Boundaries You Must Set With Men - Jonathon Aslay podcast 🌞
5 Shocking Behaviors You Should Never Tolerate In A Man - Jonathon Aslay podcast 🌞
Complex PTSD From Surviving To Thriving by Pete Walker.
Safe People by Henry Cloud
Boundaries by Henry Cloud
Know yourself and your attachment style.
You're very welcome! ♥️
@@SherriFlemming Thank you! Those sound like topics I need to hear!
@@SherriFlemmingthanks for this .
I fell for an online narc and watching this is just a replay of exactly what he did .
@Jo Chant, You're very welcome! ♥️
@Grubkiller436, You're very welcome! ♥️
I have Robert’s book and read it. When I entered a relationship with a man, I instantly saw his game. Sooooo obvious!
Stay educated ladies - don’t let any man EVER have anything over you!
This was a great episode. All of this also holds true for manipulative women. Beware of women that want to be your instant best friend, that seem to good to be true, that make you feel instantly amazing and come on a bit too much too fast. There are no short cuts to lasting friendship. Slow it down and see if they are still the same in six months. Beware if there is zero disagreement and everything you tell them is "Oh, me too.". Let people show you who they are with their actions and not tell you who they are with their words. Grounded people don't need to tell you who they are.
There are no shortcuts to lasting friendship. 100% agree.
O Me God ! I have one coming my way this Saturday. She's come out of the blue out of nowhere after all these years and wants to lunch ! She makes me feel like her bestie and disppears again ! Am I missing something homies ?
@@healingypsy Inconsistent people are unreliable people. Enjoy your lunch, be conscious of not oversharing, enjoy the company and adjust your expectations. Never be too available for inconsistent people. However, if you enjoy her company just enjoy it for what it is -- an acquaintance to have a nice lunch with and nothing more.
@@kerryharvey6365 Gee thanks chick ! 🙏
I’m not quite sure about this with women. One of my girlfriends that I worked with (trained her in sales) - ended up saying after a couple of weeks of working together “You’re stuck with me for life” - it’s been a year- she had been the most loving, kind , gracious women I’ve known. She’s had my back 100% through some real heavy shit. She came to my grandmas funeral
Another one of my girlfriends- i met at a yoga studio…I knew from the moment I saw her that I adored her and wanted to be her friend. We warmed up to each other over a couple of years, but are very connected now. She recently gave me a great recommendation for a therapist.
The girlfriend that really hurt me warmed up to me over time, like you would normally expect- a “normal” time line. Once I totally opened up to her later in our friendship about something I wasn’t proud about and difficulties I was going through- she judged me and left the friendship for a period of time. Came back into my life when my grandma was on her death bed. I texted her I wanted to be friends again but I’m afraid because she abandoned me before- then she totally ghosted me- no response- no call. She never told me who she was.
I think it’s a matter about associating with women who have integrity.
It's a deadly game 🎯 mentally and emotionally.
And we must use discernment.
100 percent, I feel like my husband did this and i have left him because I have never felt truly loved. Now he is trying hard but I dont trust him, why couldnt he just be real and transparent that would have endeared me to him . Humility is a beautiful thing, this game is revolting to me
@@beatrixatthecchwclub5620the body never lies. Trust your feelings.
💯💯💯🙏☀️🌍❤️
I think it’s narcissism. It truly is a dangerous game.
Radical discernment and vetting with who you love and trust.
Why You Didn't See The Red Flags - Ken Reid podcast 🌞
Avoidants Are Too Good At Dating -Ken Reid podcast 🌞
Signs You're Dating A Severely Avoidant Attachment Person - Ken Reid podcast 🌞
Marriage And Severe Avoidant Attachers - Ken Reid podcast 🌞
What Is Fearful Avoidant Attachment? - Ken Reid podcast 🌞
The Avoidance Of Anxious Attachment - Ken Reid podcast 🌞
Explaining They're Just Not That Into You --Ken Reid podcast 🌞
Why You Choose The Wrong People-Ken Reid podcast 🌞
Insecure Attachment - Sam Vaknin podcast 🌞
Interrogate Your Partners Their Past Is Your Future-Sam Vaknin podcast 🌞
Healing From A Breakup-Ken Reid podcast ♥️
What You Need To Do In Order To Recover Off The Back Of A Bad Breakup -Ken Reid podcast ♥️
From Self Love To Self Healing -Sam Vaknin podcast ♥️
Take Back Your Life Own It! Sam Vaknin podcast ♥️
As a woman, I look for depth, intelligence, yes, kindness or good values in the other person. Usually that comes from a person's struggles and failures in life. So yeah, a person who's self-aware and emotionally accessible and with the same values as I have.
pleased to learn that I am in the “ hard to seduce “ zone. Right now, I am so secure and happy with my life.
Just informing you the mere fact you felt compelled to state such literally states the opposite.
Good for you! It takes a mind shift & work to get to that point.
@ You are 100% right, it wasn’t an easy journey.
After ending a toxic relationship and friendship with I was engaged for decades.
I spent 5 years working on myself, changing my perspective about life/society. Became more productive; studying, researching neuroscience empowering findings, philanthropy, practicing mindfulness, yoga and traveling solo.
Eventually, I fall in love with myself and realised that, I don’t need to secure a man/ woman in order to be happy. My happiness and success in life totally depends on me.
@@AlchemysMomTarot and you know this how?
@AlchemysMomTarot Just felt compelled to tell you that you're dripping with low self-esteem
I've read the entire book multiple times, and I absolutely loved it. Robert Greene breaks down the different types of seducers into archetypes. I’ve even tried some of the tactics described, and they really work! Now, I can quickly recognize when someone is attempting to use any of the psychological strategies outlined in the book on me.
This was enlightening. I had someone give me that full seduction treatment and it felt SO genuine. Hearing the whole process laid out this way is a wake up call as to how calculated it all was. Watch out for yourselves and eachother out there ladies.
Scary right ? Wow
I had the same reaction to this. Although my soon-to-be ex husband always donated small books and paperbacks--so there's no record that he read Robert's book--I feel he must have read it. The 'seduction' was just too exact.
I heard he had a good line, l heard he had a style, and so l went to see him, and listen for awhile. And there he was this young boy singing clear and strong. He was strumming my pain with his fingers, singing my life with his words,killing me softly with his song, telling my whole life, killing me softly with his song ...Lisa probably doesn't know it, but Robert surely does
The song? I’m 45 years old so you better believe I had it on cassette and wore that tape out 😉
@@LisaBilyeu
You look much younger 😊
@@LisaBilyeu😂😂😂😂😂
Love this song ❤
the fugees covered that song like 30 years ago
This is a Dangerous Narcissist sociopath Game if you ask me
All is fair in love and war
That's why he's bringing light to the malignant games some can play.
Yes, so only way to win is not to play.
@@nicholeb2746Ahh, I don't love that view. But, men view women as prey and objects to possess, so maybe in their view any tactic to hunt us is warranted. Good thing, the tables can be turned. I just avoid men and relationships. I'm so done.
@annmarieknapp2480 ann Marie where are you from
For all the women out there, I would strongly recommend to read "The Art of Seductive Power by Juliet Arden".
Not saying it’s not a good book but it’s just not the same thing. Women don’t ‘seduce’ men socially in the same way because men do the approaching and women do the choosing. The psychology is just wrong.
Didn’t he also write the 48 laws of power? 🤨 look at him well. Does he look like the person to take sexual advice from ? It 💯 makes sense but do u really think it works for him? Or it works cause u as a person knows who u are?
@@HkFinn83exactly. His advice probably doesn’t even work for him. And if it does, it’s works on his scale. Will work on thier a scale as well but we can clearly see it’s not really about the strategy if SOMEONE IS NOT ATTRACTED TO U🤷🏾♀️💯
@@lindacampbellbeckford3011What a rude comment.
Have you guys even read the book this lady is suggesting? Or are u making assumptions based on title?
When a person shows you who they are believe them period. trust no one
Wait. Trust NO ONE? That means you DON'T see who they really are.
If you see that they're rock solid and trustworthy, with a long history of close friends with whom they're accountable and transparent, you can learn that they are trustworthy and you should trust them.
The point is to learn and observe.
The best book I ever read about training your intuition is "The Gift of Fear" by Gavin de Becker.
Trust doesn't need to be blind or non-observant.
Trust is to be earned, but trust is ok in the right situations.
My grandparents on both sides absolutely trusted each other for over 70 years in each marriage, they were each other's confidante, each other's best supporter and cheerleader, each other's safe place - they never bitched behind each other's back like some couples, never mocked each other.
They had earned each other's trust...
They also kept their flirty attention on each other long after they were very old and decrepit - patting each other on the button, winking, saying sweet things...
They really knew how to have a good relationship.
They also both kept up separate, outside interests that made them interested in each other.
He says “when someone’s being disrespectful and malice, don’t take it personal because it’s about them!” Yeah well whatever 💩 they’re going through or went through, they can take that ahit elsewhere!
"Greet them with grace." In my opinion, the best line I am taking away. Thank you!
I learned from my last relationship that was Toxic was too never let a person rush me in any type of relationship. It made me feel very uncomfortable . If I had trusted my gut instincts I also would have avoided the worst relationship ever. My ex mentioned living in another country several times, I always told him I had no interest in giving up my home, I also stopped visiting my friends except when I left my house because of his Rage. The longer I stayed in this relationship the worst it got. Thank you Lisa for having Mr. Greene on your Podcast. I definitely could relate to what he was saying.
You can be sure that there are people like me who absolutely don't miss anything and have never depended from a man emotionally, I have no emotional weaknesses, games have never worked for me.
Never depend on anyone to be happy, period.
There is a life beyond romantic relationships, wait for the right person or it is better to be alone.
This is the best response out of all of comments. I totally agreed with you
Lots of lucky people our there too. I imagine you have acquired some skills and defenses but it really just comes down to luck. Born into a blessed life is luck, not being abused is luck, not being taken advantage of a young person is also luck. Escaping adolescence as a girl without having been abused is quite literally a 50/50 shot today, if not even worse. When we have fully grown through old men working to manipulate and groom young girls everywhere now it really does just come down to your luck.
I don't there's such a human be it a men or women. Don't kid yourselves. You're biologically build to be dependent on others emotionally especially women. It's the leading rate of suic***e for women. Not feeling loved and supported. .At max you're less dependent on others but never fully independent.
Having been in unhealthy relationships since age 14, I am now enjoying a kind, loving, healthy relationship at age 56, with myself.
What if it backfires?
Fortunately, I'm not attracted to narcissists.
Yes.
If a male person can't be seduced then he isn't interested in sex.
Ugh, they are the worst!
Get out asap
Robert Greene is a true gift to anyone who can draw from the well of his knowledge. I literally have his books and videos under the nickname step dad's advice..... thank you so much for this interview Lisa B.
Correct: the opposite of love is apathy bc no energy is given towards that person.
Hi, What’s your favorite BOOK that got your interest ?
I was taught in Recovery- Feelings aren't facts. For some reason that made me disconnect from my intuition. It was a good line when used in a positive way- but now i get to let the pendulum swing back to center, and begin TRUSTING myself again❤🎉
So much of Recovery 12 Step work is spot-on but, like everything, it has its limitations. Dr Gabor Maté says the root of addiction is disconnection from ourselves, from our inner being; could also be disconnection from our HP.
Interestingly, what Robert Greene says just after the 24:00 min mark sounds a lot like Step 10s.
Hi, What’s your favorite BOOK that got your interest ?
Lisa you are so correct when you said if a woman emotional respnse over something even if it's legitimate we're seen difficult , dramatic etc. What's more frustrating is we're not taken seriously . Whether it's in a relationship or in the workplace . I can't when a man is dismissive in the work place. These same men get emotional . They get mad , upset. Start throwing a fit . But they think their emotions need to be taken seriously and all men support each other in that. But if a woman brought up several good frustrating legitimate points in the work place and/or got frustrated emotionally over the same exact thing in work place as that same man did, then we aren't taken seriously. They call us emotionally dramatic , argumentive
Etc. What's worse they'll promote that same man in a higher position saying he takes the job seriously , notices things others don't and he's not afraid to speak up. He's a leader. But that woman who is the exact same way as that man, they'll never promote her. They'll blow off her off and say she's too dramatic and emotional.
When a man gets emotional in a relationship ( sad, upset , angryetc) over something he expects the woman to take him seriously . In fact they demand it in many ways. Either by what they say or their actions in what they do. But if the woman shows those same emotions a man can roll his eyes and make comments like here we go again. You're so dramatic and emotional . They can ignore it and call it nagging as well. If these men tell their buddies about it, their budfues will say women are so dramatic Ann's emotionally unstable or she must be on her period. But if that same man tells his buddies about his upset emotions then they back him up. They say he has every right to feel that way and his woman should take him seriously and respect his feelings.. I know this went a little off topic about seduction but i do feel in a relationship that type of behavior can still have an affect on that person. It can be manipulative. It can lead to a person being manipulated to try harder which can turn into trauma bond.
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WHOH!! Revealing many insidious tactics Abusive Narcissists use.. excellent episode! Women need to purchase his book!!
love this man's intellect and the conversation you two had, thank you Lisa!
He is not intelligent...He knows very well women are far better manipulators than men...he is a politically correct clown...
Lisa, you are right on. I want a man who treats me nice but don't want a wimp.
I appreciate the observation of the disconnect between the eyes and mouth.
Heres the thing, Im going to buy the book. My issue is that it all seems like a game. You can't control another person. Keep him chasing, for how long? Keep him hunting, for how long? Be mysterious okay for how long. It just seems that men want what they can't have, and thats the lure of it all. Once you move in, then what? There's no mystery there. It just seems to be up and down. Left and right all to keep a mans interest. If he gets bored, if he loses interest, ect ect ect. On and on and on. When do people get real.
We are all made of energy, and therefore, there's an energetic algorithm that we live in....follow it.
Wise words.
Read "The Queen's Code"
When they understand that love is about willing the good of another
Women hold on after their interest is gone bc they do not have the sexual freedoms granted to men. If they did, they might not stick to one guy. They're not all that after all. Women have a more abiding interest in other women who are more naturally interesting & dynamic creatures. Times, though, are changing, but women are still socially restricted sexually.
If there is any sign of negging right at the beginning... It won't get better.
My Ex ranted a lot about single Mums 18 months ago & how bad they were for the family structure.
I would be lying if I said it didn't impact me towards feeling guilt as a single mom, & I moved more towards him because he seemed to want to save me from being a single mum through marriage & children etc. Worst mistake I ever made.
18 months later, it has completely blown up when I finally became very serious about leaving.
I tried to leave for a while...
I do suspect now that negging may in fact be a sign post for obvious deficiencys in a man, so I'm on the look out for negging in potential future partners now.
I won't tolerate it anymore, especially the mixed signals in the beginning.
It's so crazy to vilify the mom who stayed with the kids and not the dad who left them.
@jumbolumps666 It's not so much about Vilification as it is about manipulating the Woman to not want to be single anymore.
I was single 18 months ago & trying to avoid relationships because I was struggling & I was determined to stay single so i could avoid more pain.
By guilting me about raising my kids alone, it opened up an insecurity within me that was caused by him, so I ran towards him in a bid for comfort.
Then he progressed things & started expressing his interest in marriage & having a family himself.
Negging is about making a person want a relationship with you, to appease the hurt they caused in you.
But unfortunately it's hard to recognise that's what they're doing to you.
They're trying to hurt you to get you & it's not always obvious if they hurt a naturally occuring insecurity already within you.
I would say everything in life is an experience and such, is a phase which everyone go through !!!
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You should only date single dads, because dating is very hard for women without kids. It's wishful thinking to believe that a guy without kids wants to be in a situation with a single mom. These types of guys usually end up abusing the kids. There are checks and balances when two people are in the same situation, and I don't understand why anyone with kids would pursue someone without kids.
Mr. Greene humbly saving lives all over tge world!!
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By the way: I love it when 2 people can come together happily. It‘s like watching and know that there is love. Doesn’t have to be with me but I must know that there are people who are happy!
It's the little old couples who evidently are still looking out for each other in their 80s that are especially endearing for me. I hope it doesn't become a thing of the past but I suspect it will.
@@edenlass9062😢😢😢your last sentence
Obviously this goes both ways. I’ve been in a lot of relationships as a man and there have been times I didn’t know my value and realized women were manipulating me. I’ve always been a quiet, super fit, pretty good looking guy but raised to be humble and kind. A lot of women took advantage of my kindness. I’m still the same guy but now I noticed when a woman’s manipulating me quick. Also it’s hard because we live in a world that makes it hard to trust anything and anyone.
How she did manipulate you?
I wstched a lot of interviews of Robert Greene, this is the BEST interview and changing of ideas indeed! 🎉 Thank you Lisa for this episode!
I USED TO BE A SIREN AND WAS FOR MANY YEARS. I HAVE RECENTLY GONE THROUGH AN AWAKENING AND AM NOT EVEN THE SAME PERSON I USED TO BE. IM THE COMPLETE OPPOSITE LOL.
THIS INFO IS INCREDIBLY INTERESTING!! TY FOR SHARING AND WAS A GREAT EPISODE!!❤❤❤
Dishonest vs Honest seducer.
Is the attempted friendship genuine or not ?
✨ Listen to your first instincts about the person.
✨Effort to be a friend is rushed
✨Eyes vs mouth mismatch.
At first, I wasn't a fan of his work, but now I find him to be a valuable source of information. I have read all of his books, which I see as essential guidance in life. These books can have different effects on readers, providing both advice and caution. Understanding my own character helps me navigate through the content, being cautious of potential dangers but also being assertive when necessary.
Im a huge fan🎉@Robertgreen
Thank you
I wish i had found his books before clearly making wrong choices!
Thanks Lisa for having him!
Yes , it helped me alot to avoid cons in life because they look for lonely and depressed people. I recognized a con on dating site instantly when he asked me how depressed i am . On the surface it looked a simple question but when i said not even 1% he was disappointed. There were other red flags too but i was not paying much attention to them as we don't meet such cons every day.
"Trust your instincts" VERY TRUE. It happened to me, I totally ignored them and in the end... my instincts were right.
Fell for it hook and sinker. Trust will never be the same for me. Anyone even remotely using the same words & tactics turns me off to no end, sadly, even if it's sincere
Exactly…this is exactly what sick fake narcissists do ugh
❤ same here
I hate feeling a tactic. Game over immediately!
I guess the issue with all of this, is that it highlights the problem with humanity. We know we should want a genuine relationship where 2 become 1 and each are open and honest to eachother, but in reality what we really do is use seduction and are seduced even without trying. Seduction is being ingenuine and playing around and using the ugly insecurities and weaknesses of your partner. You should not have to be "exciting" for your partner to stay with you, you should have a meeting of the minds and just feel good with who the person is naturally.
Thats total baloney, my husband and i had love at first sight, right away he took me on week vacation in the bahamas and we had a whirlwind romance, married a few months later, and 10 exciting and amazing years together, maybe you should not judge the world by your boring experiences😂😂😂
@MetaPhysStore0770 you are very lucky that jumping into a relationship with someone based on their looks (first sight) actually turned out that your personalities worked well together. Countless people fall victim to love bombing type whirlwind romances and end up very damaged.
"You should not have to be 'exciting' for your partner to stay with you" I think this is an interesting way of putting it. There are so many other positive experiences in life than excitement, and I believe it speaks about our society that we tend to judge the quality of a relationship based on the strength of the emotions involved over anything else.
That said, I've always thought one of the biggest issues people have with maintaining some level of romance or passion is one of taking things for granted. I think if you passively let your partner (or friend) become so deeply ingrained into your life that you barely notice them anymore, it's a bad sign. And keeping things "exciting" can be a fast track to making sure the both of you are still paying attention to one another.
I don't think it's the only way, so sometimes I wonder if the problem is that it's the only thing most people know how to do in that regard... and not just with relationships but with their entire lives. They always need that new hit, that change of pace, and eventually other people just become a means to that end :/
@nitswaa1935 I personally believe, at least for me, that if two people both share the same "north star" and by that I mean central core belief that you both turn to for psychological well-being, then the two of you are a constant reminder to eachother of where to find peace and joy. So whether life is good or bad, a struggle or a breeze, you always have a very important core reason to stay committed to the person. Life might be boring or dull, but there is never anything dull about having someone who re awakens your core beliefs that you rely on for happiness
@@nitswaa1935 I largely agree with you. I think it's about finding your niche. Finding your place or person or thing (or home as they say). You only really know when you get there and I doubt you'd want to leave. But not everyone finds it or who, and in the interim, they make do with what they've found, or continue searching. It's about alignment.
Trusting your gut is only as accurate as your awareness of yourself
If you are not aware of yourself
You do not know if your gut is instinct or insecurity
This man is GOLD!
@43:00 i was married to a true narcissist. I was isolated from friends and family. He was it, he became my everything. I thought, of course, it was love. I saw actions, tho, that were opposite of what he was 'lovingly' saying to me. I always tell my friends he kept me happy enough to not ask questions about his other life. He ended up walking out, after many years of marriage, with someone from his 'other' life. She was all of 23 years old and he was 54. Fortunately for me, im rid of the lying, cheating, narcissitic seducer.
Yeah it’s all about isolating you and living their delusional American dream lifestyle.
Hey, it could be worse! At least you didn't date a 54 year old when you were 23. That's like losing the lottery. 😭
Don't have sex too soon and you won't have to be such a detective. Tell them no and they will show themselves
...move on to someone easier than you
It's not exactly rocket science is it? Shame though, this advice came 15 years too late, since most men are done putting up with women anymore. 13 reasons why the same 1% of chads are using you for sex. Shocking I know.
They'll still do it. I waited until marriage for a narc. But you're right about the not sleeping with them.
That was a good point about the negative comment being about them not you. Just the other day I saw a stream of really nasty comments on a post from one person which set off a domino effect of defensive comments from others. I don't know why I did it but I commented very politely something like "oh my goodness, you're very angry. Do you think you have may anger issues or a personality disorder? Would it be a good idea to speak with your doctor or therapist?" I was kind of waiting for a slew of vitriol to come my way. But nothing. They didn't comment again. I do hope it was taken in the way it was meant.
Another fantastic episode with a great guest, and of course, the shining star Lisa showcasing her natural talent to make every conversation so enjoyable. ❤
Ahhhh thanks my homie!! 😍
I once dated a guy who asked me whether I had read 'The 48 laws of power'.That time I was young ,he really manipulated me,never felt that powerless😢😢😢
Now you know where he learned his bullshit from 😢
@Adelina24244 🥲yeah
Omg! My ex read that book! Explains so much!
How old were you?
@@lakpoam4816 24 years old
Lisa, Really useful, entertaining and thought-provoking content! Thanks for working so hard to put this out to the world, so we can all increase our perspective!
Thanks so much!! I so appreciate this!!!
“I’d rather you hate me than forget me.” WOW!! So profound!!
I wish I knew this years ago. Thank you both so much! ❤❤
Me, too!! I was young and stupid enough to think I was " special", and that THIS SEX/ MIND GAME ,was
"Love"!! Ugh!!
@ I totally feel you on that! Just yuck lol! So thankful now to know what I know but it doesn’t make it any less scarier to have fake people try to enter your life and you have to be on guard. I pray for genuine, authentic, true connections for real people who will give the same. Much love and peace 💕
even though..this would not save you anything. You would fall for that guy anyway;-)) Come on.. Everyone of us has made those mistakes for their own life- experience.
This conversation is most powerful on RUclips that I've ever learned.
Love the exposure of these tactics. Thanks Robert and Lisa ❤
If you believe men are like that more often
You will actually attract such men, because your brain will focus only on negative,
as the brain works as computer program 95 percent.
If you believe men are good, your brain will start to notice the good in men, and you will attract good men, because you will react to the good stuff they do.
They will be attracted to the fact that you noticed their good personality and skills.
It's so ironic, I have this book on my desk right now. It's the only book on my desk, and this comes up.
45:02 😲
Your books saved my life. Thank you, Mr Green.
48 Laws. Human Nature. 33 Strategies. 50th Law. Are my everyday carry.
I've reached the point where I'm suspicious of everybody
Love Robert Greene, his books are stellar 🙌
It’s important, yet sad, that we need to be made aware of such malevolent behavior and deceiving tactics some men use! It’s necessary especially for ladies now! Thank you for this!
It’s really nice clean, wholesome appearance. Effective, classy language. presents honesty. That true statements spoken genuinely effectively accomplish.
Thanks for bringing the author and for making the presentation in effort to do good things for us.
He was very good at appearing authentic. He even faked tears in his eyes when I walked away from the workplace (we worked together) yet he has made no effort to keep in touch since I’ve left, even though we live near each other and shop in the same place
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Avoidant's Are Too Good At Dating -Ken Reid podcast 🌞
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Avoidant Attacher Gaslighting -Ken Reid podcast 🌞
The Boomerang Avoidant' - Ken Reid podcast 🌞
The Real Reason Avoidant Attachers Break Up With You - Ken Reid podcast 🌞
Explaining They're Just Not That Into You --Ken Reid podcast 🌞
Why You Choose The Wrong People-Ken Reid podcast 🌞
Why You Didn't See The Red Flags -Ken Reid podcast 🌞
Healing From A Breakup-Ken Reid podcast ♥️
What You Need To Do In Order To Recover Off The Back Of A Bad Breakup - Ken Reid podcast ♥️
From Self Love To Self Healing -Sam Vaknin podcast ♥️
Take Back Your Life Own It! Sam Vaknin podcast ♥️
What a dork lol
all about the job ? ? ?
So many mind games …. it’s exhausting …. I think I’ll stay single
This was an eye opening conversation, thank you to you both!
The best interview on RUclips with Robert. Thank you Lisa. You are amazing 😍
I've been literally with him for 23 years i know his ways I watch Body language it tells allot on what they're not Saying or telling you
The fact for me is when I like someone I feel that I want them to know, quite a few times I've waited and avoided to pursue the person too much because the man should chase, but they ended up not chasing me and I ended up with kind of an ache inside for not showing them how I really felt... I don't know, I feel like we can lose sight of what we really want in these games, seems like so much fun until you don't know where you're going and then all of a sudden you're going nowhere because one of the two people (if not both) is exhausted and tired to attempt to decode the other's behaviour... of course this is just my personal experience
Hopefully men know a woman’s reciprocity and presence are a green light. I know though, it feels like if I don’t hold back everything goes too fast. It’s not wanting to play a game but it probably looks like it.
Absolutely love when some of my favorite people collaborate. Well done the both of you!
Writing is an inward adventure and exciting. I agree that some manipulators use suspense, and leave stuff out and try to get you to chase. I hate being manipulated to do what a person wants. It makes me so angry. I prefer more freedom and a direct request. So I can chose how and when I can oblige.
Hi, What’s your favorite BOOK that got your interest ?
I like the information he always explains and gives ❤️🔥
Brilliant interview, and I love the fact that Lisa doesn’t interrupt Robert’s flow when he’s talking. Fantastic questions and a very enlightening interview. Thank you. 😊
20 or 21 minutes in, robert is describing exactly how trauma bonds develop.
Everything he describes is actually part of abusive relationships or narcissistically abusive relationships.
It is scary that he understands these things so well and has basically written a manifesto on how to subtly abuse others using these tactics.
Exactly!!@@
Very true. It is very concerning. Why would anyone want to guide someone into being manipulative?
I agree, I think this is worrying
Hey ❤ listen to PTE she made a great review of his book on the laws of power
I was searching for comments like this
Right…his book is informational not aspirational.
I knew this was going to be fire! 🔥
And our parents and other people told us to start as friends first. Wow, oh wow!
So ladies remember if the man is testing you by backing off don’t freak out and start pursuing him because then you will in be the masculine role
If he is testing me, he isn't right for me. Period.
I no longer play games. I mean, I'd rather be single.
The masculine role isn't actually a bad thing. Look at him, for example.
In the masculine role but using his masculine role to harm you .
Use your masculine side to pursue him, ask the right questions, get your answers and leave.
So? 😂
Know yourself and your attachment style. Behavior is a language.
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The Impact Of Lovebombing with Shanel Whitney podcast 🌞
Why You Didn't See The Red Flags -Ken Reid podcast 🌞
Why You Choose The Wrong People-Ken Reid podcast 🌞
Communicating With Avoidant Attachers-Ken Reid podcast 🌞
Avoidant Attacher Gaslighting -Ken Reid podcast 🌞
The Real Reason Avoidant Attachers Break Up With You - Ken Reid podcast 🌞
The Avoidance Of Anxious Attachment -Ken Reid podcast 🌞
Explaining They're Just Not That Into You --Ken Reid podcast 🌞
The Boomerang Avoidant' -Ken Reid podcast 🌞
Healing From A Breakup-Ken Reid podcast ♥️
What You Need To Do In Order To Recover Off The Back Of A Bad Breakup -Ken Reid podcast ♥️
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""""Masculine role""""" 😂😂😂 No, kitten. You'll just seem as desperate you are. Confident people don't pursue someone who is pulling back
I could listen to this man for hours 🙂what an intelligent and interesting man.
Thank you so much for bringing my favorite author on this show! This is amazing content absolutely priceless ❤❤❤
So many concepts to grasp. I’m not even able to catch on if a man is interested in me. I’m told I’m unapproachable, my standards are too high, I’m too independent. I don’t need a man but would like one to share life with. Male energy is necessary in my life to keep balance. It’s equal give and take. I’ve read the book and am blown away at how so much time is spent on not being real. I know though that being authentic, real, honest and straightforward is not welcomed.
You dont need to seduce women when your the best version of yourself. They just come to you.
I’m from Brazil and I subscribe tonight! Glad that I found this sweet and interesting community! ❤
Hi Lisa here's an example of a chip at a value that happened to me with my diagnosed anti social personality dissordered ex husband. I was raised Catholic so strongly pro life. I was happy in my career and looking into masters programs. It was clear kids would not be in the picture for a few years. He had rushed marriage already (within 8 mo of dating). He started sending me videos of how birth control induces abortion in other words. I became morally disturbed so i stopped taking it. Within a month he got me pregnant (without details). And was less covert (violent actually)with the second child 2 years later. Again when I was trying to resume my career. He turned out a full blown predator even toward our children. We have permanent DVPOs thankfully. Stay aware ladies.
I love these two and the way they respect and admire each other.
I gotta get his books!
Robert Greene is terrific.! I read his books when they first came out. ❤
Hi, some men are actually genuinely interesting, not because of the way they act but it’s just part of them. the problem is lack of trust in this generation!!!
first 10 minutes, pretty much sums up why no one’s gonna bother getting married anymore. Imagine having to go through this much thought and psychology just to find somebody.!
I feel u just got to appreciate Robert Green ....he just seems so honest and knowledgeable and humane!
Best Robert Greene interview ever 😊. He seems more playful during this and it felt more conversational and natural. Didn't want it to end !! Thankyou ❤❤
Hi, What’s your favorite BOOK that got your interest ?
Ladies block and ignore. Even if it hurts, don’t give them validation.
Works every time.