Thank you for educating me about this. Now my teenage boys feelings are a little more understandable. As well as explain some of the impulses that drive adolescence to make the decisions they do and to understand where they are coming from. Thank you again Sir.
Dr. Siegel et al: is there a Spanish version of this floating around somewhere that we could use to show our monolingual Spanish clients? Would very much appreciate it. Thank you!
This is GREAT!!!!! Ok, so this is why my 15 year old daughter knows that Madrid, Spain is locked down because of the coronavirus, but still ask me every five minutes if she can leave the house and go see her friends. I'm having a hard time being patient. 13 more days. PLEASE HELP. I feel my fight or flight is being activated by her. I am trying to be a rational parent and say no nicely. Please give advise.
I appreciate the dismissal of the "raging hormones" myth, but I worry that another myth is being put forward here, about adolescents having a different quality of mind than adults that could be used to justify restricting their liberty, or otherwise treating them as less than fully human. I'm not saying myelination and these other changes in the brain don't happen, but I question the conclusions drawn from the existence of these changes, because I've known and I do know many adolescents and adults who seem to have the exact same kinds of mental characteristics (interests, temperament, impulsivity or its opposite, humor, intelligence and wisdom, social acumen, etc.) I wish Dan Siegel would acquaint himself with the work of Marshall Rosenberg, because I believe he might then see adolescents with a new eye, and revise his ideas. Nonetheless, I like that Dr Siegel is so vocal about the importance of compassion and empathy, and I think his advice for parents is very valuable, as well as what he says about mindsight and ideas such as Name it to Tame it.
I agree with you, and I recommend you read some of the work of Robert Epstein and David Hoshman if you haven't. They have similar philosophies on the teenage brain and on how youth are treated in modern society. There have been too many historical cases of the supposed inferiority of certain groups leading to poor treatment of those groups for me to feel comfortable labeling any group as inherently lesser than mine. Anything of that sort is unmistakably fraught with peril.
Why is overestimating the value of excitement and downplaying the dangers of a choice called "hyperrational thinking"? This seems less than rational to me.
rationalization is just an attempt to justify actions or behaviors with logic. Logic is not inherently the truth and sometimes major decisions require time. Hyper, meaning excessive or beyond normal, could imply that hyperratioal thinking is just using your own dopamine driven logic but not taking an account on how quick you come to the conclusion or decision. This leads to justifying and taking a risk that might not be even be worth it from another persons viewpoint.
This book"Brianstorm"" by Daniel Siegel is a really great book which is illuminating the essence of adolescence and how to deal with it if you are in that period and if you are not in that period how you deal with those who are in.
In my opinion you are a child until you are 25 years old. Neuroscience is saying that the prefrontal cortex is still developing till 25 years old. This deals with decision making,rationing and brain function.
There are many assumptions explained as scientific facts in this video, and others of the type. In my opinion there is a growing tendency of this type of "science", that looks more like marketing to me, surely with a good intention. But they interprete simple correlations as causal relationships all the time, and they extrapolate conclusions from lab results that might look reasonable but not necessarily true. This is not very good science, in my view.
Dr Siegler is a prefessor of psychology at UCLA. His work is peer reviewed and his theories are proven. Not saying they can't change but science evolves as we find out more and more about the human psyche. His work is solid and not just POP Science.
Science is by definition not fact, but the profession of developing and testing theories. Medicine, psychiatry and psychology are constantly growing as we learn more! Heck, doctors used to blame mother deaths during by child birth on the mother’s temperament (and called that medical fact) before the discovery of germs. Everything starts as a theory.
Wow what an absolutely great presentation from Dan Siegel!
Your explanations are so clear, but full of rich information! Great help for me explaining the teenage brain to my clients!
Thank you for explaining this...
Thank you for educating me about this. Now my teenage boys feelings are a little more understandable. As well as explain some of the impulses that drive adolescence to make the decisions they do and to understand where they are coming from. Thank you again Sir.
Dr. Siegel et al: is there a Spanish version of this floating around somewhere that we could use to show our monolingual Spanish clients? Would very much appreciate it. Thank you!
This is GREAT!!!!! Ok, so this is why my 15 year old daughter knows that Madrid, Spain is locked down because of the coronavirus, but still ask me every five minutes if she can leave the house and go see her friends. I'm having a hard time being patient. 13 more days. PLEASE HELP. I feel my fight or flight is being activated by her. I am trying to be a rational parent and say no nicely. Please give advise.
This was amazing, thank you
I appreciate the dismissal of the "raging hormones" myth, but I worry that another myth is being put forward here, about adolescents having a different quality of mind than adults that could be used to justify restricting their liberty, or otherwise treating them as less than fully human.
I'm not saying myelination and these other changes in the brain don't happen, but I question the conclusions drawn from the existence of these changes, because I've known and I do know many adolescents and adults who seem to have the exact same kinds of mental characteristics (interests, temperament, impulsivity or its opposite, humor, intelligence and wisdom, social acumen, etc.)
I wish Dan Siegel would acquaint himself with the work of Marshall Rosenberg, because I believe he might then see adolescents with a new eye, and revise his ideas. Nonetheless, I like that Dr Siegel is so vocal about the importance of compassion and empathy, and I think his advice for parents is very valuable, as well as what he says about mindsight and ideas such as Name it to Tame it.
I agree with you, and I recommend you read some of the work of Robert Epstein and David Hoshman if you haven't. They have similar philosophies on the teenage brain and on how youth are treated in modern society. There have been too many historical cases of the supposed inferiority of certain groups leading to poor treatment of those groups for me to feel comfortable labeling any group as inherently lesser than mine. Anything of that sort is unmistakably fraught with peril.
Marc Moïni holy crud man! You are very knowledgeable. I’m just trying to pull me head outta me arse!😂😂😂
Thank you
Why is overestimating the value of excitement and downplaying the dangers of a choice called "hyperrational thinking"? This seems less than rational to me.
rationalization is just an attempt to justify actions or behaviors with logic. Logic is not inherently the truth and sometimes major decisions require time. Hyper, meaning excessive or beyond normal, could imply that hyperratioal thinking is just using your own dopamine driven logic but not taking an account on how quick you come to the conclusion or decision. This leads to justifying and taking a risk that might not be even be worth it from another persons viewpoint.
there is a subtitle mistake at 6.42. fiiled not killed. This might cause confusion for English learners. Thanks for a fascinating talk.
Amazing talk!
This book"Brianstorm"" by Daniel Siegel is a really great book which is illuminating the essence of adolescence and how to deal with it if you are in that period and if you are not in that period how you deal with those who are in.
You need to look up Robert Epstein the case against adolescence.
In my opinion you are a child until you are 25 years old. Neuroscience is saying that the prefrontal cortex is still developing till 25 years old. This deals with decision making,rationing and brain function.
There are many assumptions explained as scientific facts in this video, and others of the type. In my opinion there is a growing tendency of this type of "science", that looks more like marketing to me, surely with a good intention. But they interprete simple correlations as causal relationships all the time, and they extrapolate conclusions from lab results that might look reasonable but not necessarily true. This is not very good science, in my view.
Dr Siegler is a prefessor of psychology at UCLA. His work is peer reviewed and his theories are proven. Not saying they can't change but science evolves as we find out more and more about the human psyche. His work is solid and not just POP Science.
Science is by definition not fact, but the profession of developing and testing theories. Medicine, psychiatry and psychology are constantly growing as we learn more! Heck, doctors used to blame mother deaths during by child birth on the mother’s temperament (and called that medical fact) before the discovery of germs. Everything starts as a theory.
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