Do stock IR's make a difference? Hotone Ampero vs. Mooer GE200 round 2!

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  • Опубликовано: 20 дек 2024

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  • @TaylorDanley
    @TaylorDanley  5 лет назад +6

    Hey guys, what do you think? Pretty close or nah?

    • @arkavagoswami3068
      @arkavagoswami3068 5 лет назад +6

      from ge200 i like only the peavey 5150 n rest all from ampero .great comparison.thank u

    • @TaylorDanley
      @TaylorDanley  5 лет назад +2

      Thanks for the comment! Yeah the 5150 on the ge200 does sound pretty 🔥

    • @NecrosisF
      @NecrosisF 5 лет назад +2

      I've always thought ge200 has a midsy nasal amp sound on some sims when recording. I've managed to scoop the mids and kinda fix It, but still think ampero has more quality. Maybe tweaking the eq's a little bit more It can deliver close results.

    • @arkavagoswami3068
      @arkavagoswami3068 5 лет назад +1

      @@TaylorDanley I think ge300 will be better than ge200 n ampero

    • @NecrosisF
      @NecrosisF 5 лет назад +2

      Great review! Hope you can make a song with the VH4 from the ampero and the hagen in ge200 someday. Cheers!

  • @jcugnoni
    @jcugnoni 5 лет назад +23

    Wow. Thanks for listening to my suggestion. I really appreciate. And you even pronounced my first name perfectly ;-) It is a really great comparison and the presentation & quality is really top notch! With this comparison, now I know that I will keep my GE200 even though it is a bit flat and stiff and spent more time browsing through IRs (the Seacow IR that you used it really cool. I will have alook there). Cheers from Switzerland.

    • @TaylorDanley
      @TaylorDanley  5 лет назад +8

      Thank you! Viewers that engage help me level up my channel, so all the credit is to you my dude. More than happy to make videos you guys want to see. 🙌

  • @kirkbuffington6820
    @kirkbuffington6820 5 лет назад +19

    Ampero is still the winner lol

  • @TyGerhardt
    @TyGerhardt 3 года назад +3

    During the blind listening test I liked unit A the best for every track. It sounded less muffled...like it had more depth and headroom overall. I was pleasantly surprised it was the Ampero. 👍

  • @jfrankcarr
    @jfrankcarr 5 лет назад +6

    I had a Mooer Radar (destroyed in a lightning strike) that I replaced with a Hotone Binary IR Cab. The stock IR's on the Mooer were lacking to me so I bought a Celestion Vintage 30 IR package. When I got the Hotone replacement, the stock ones sounded so good that I haven't bothered to load the Celestion IR's on it yet.

    • @TaylorDanley
      @TaylorDanley  5 лет назад +1

      I'm sorry to hear about the misfortune, but that's kind of amazing. How exactly dod that happen? That might be the most crazy way to lose a piece of gear I have ever heard of!
      Do you know if the cabs on the hotone are the same as the cabs included with the ampero?

    • @jfrankcarr
      @jfrankcarr 5 лет назад +1

      @@TaylorDanley Lightning hit our house, blowing a hole in the wall along with about half the circuit breakers. The power surge wiped out several TVs and PCs as well.The Mooer's USB was plugged into a PC that got hit.
      I'm not sure if the cabs are exactly the same but there seems to be a lot of crossover between their products.

    • @TaylorDanley
      @TaylorDanley  5 лет назад

      Dang, so sorry to hear that! I was hoping you were gonna say you were mid solo in the rain standing on top of a muscle car or something.
      I'll have to check into that, IRs and specifically power amp emulation were one of my gripes with the ampero.

  • @ericpalkovich
    @ericpalkovich 5 лет назад +2

    Hey Taylor - Hope you're well.
    Excellent series on the Ampero - It helped me in my decision to purchase one! Super stoked to get this in my hands and write some brutes.
    Keep doing what you're doing - Excellent playing & great ear!
    Have an excellent weekend, sir!

    • @TaylorDanley
      @TaylorDanley  5 лет назад

      You too! Thanks so much for the comment, glad I could help! 🤘🤘

  • @devilman60
    @devilman60 5 лет назад +6

    This was awesome,I loved what you did at the end! Ampero all the way for me!

  • @JazzRuck1
    @JazzRuck1 3 года назад +1

    Hello everyone! Great video! It's just strange that no one speaks about how it works on stage. It is not very convenient to press on two pedals during the concert. And the softness of the sound is lost in the mix. From the experience of live performances, I can say the harder the sound, the clearer it is.

  • @SuperBriandamage
    @SuperBriandamage 4 года назад +1

    It sounded like the ampro was slightly louder in the mix which kind of made it a bit better. Also with a bit of eq on the top end on the mooer you could get it close enough. I noticed the biggest difference on the rectifier model. Mostly in the lower mids.

  • @Lars-ju9pw
    @Lars-ju9pw 5 лет назад +2

    I picked up a Hotone Ampero in part because of your first video. I'm more interested in using it as a "does everything" pedalboard in one into the input on my Blackstar amp, as opposed to using it for it's amp modeling.
    All that said, I'm really impressed with how the amp and cabs sound when recording from the direct out. As a result I'm working on several (NS - ) presets to use with an amp, and then similar presets with amp/cab sims in place.
    Where did you grab your custom IRs for this demo, and are you willing to share your various "Tay" presets?

    • @TaylorDanley
      @TaylorDanley  5 лет назад

      Yeah, I'd be willing to share them. I just need to get around to uploading them, but I'm always willing to share my patches.
      That's awesome. It's a really cool piece of gear and I enjoy using it a lot. The cab IRs I used were from seacow cabs.

  • @JosephMile
    @JosephMile 5 лет назад +5

    I've owned Ge200...now Ampero. Never regret. Its not just the amps. Listen to that church reverb on Ampero for example!

  • @BÜbLars
    @BÜbLars 2 года назад +1

    The ENGL and MESA got owned by Ampero, but the PEAVEY 5150 sounded really good on both tbh

  • @kcrich1310
    @kcrich1310 5 лет назад +2

    Aside from liking the Recto sound on the Mooer better I'd have to go with the Ampero. This may be a dumb question but I'll throw it out there anyways. Even though they sound slightly different at similar settings can you further tweak one to sound exactly like the other?

    • @TaylorDanley
      @TaylorDanley  5 лет назад +3

      I haven't tried to do that specifically, but the ampero definitely is has more room to mess with the sound. Like, I feel you could probably get the ampero to sound closer to a ge200 than you could the other way around.

  • @josephbusuttil410
    @josephbusuttil410 4 года назад +1

    So, I'm a newby to IR's ~ would I be right in assuming that I could use any IR's from different Multi Effects makers HOTONE, MOOER, HELIX etc and import them into ANY Multi Effects board that handle IR's?
    ... in a nutshell, what I'm asking is that IR's are Not Proprietary to any manufacturer and can be shared by any ?
    You have a good attitude & I like HOW you explain stuff ...

    • @TaylorDanley
      @TaylorDanley  4 года назад +1

      No, the IRs that are stock in units are generally cab emulations with mics and adjustments, not .wav files that can be transferred. I'd recommend getting some quality IRs you enjoy (ML audio, ownhammer, etc) and you can always transfer those to whatever unit youd like!

    • @josephbusuttil410
      @josephbusuttil410 4 года назад

      @@TaylorDanley So the .WAV IR-files people create on the internet can be used across the board ( pardon the pun ) :D

  • @Mursalin_Hredoy
    @Mursalin_Hredoy 5 лет назад +1

    It would be very helpful if there was a comparison with ge300. I'm thinking about buying one because of the tone capture feature.

    • @TaylorDanley
      @TaylorDanley  5 лет назад +2

      I'd love to compare with one, but it's just not in my budget to purchase one to review it and then try to sell it.
      Maybe one day Mooer will send me one to review LOL

  • @MarcAndreLevesque
    @MarcAndreLevesque 4 года назад +1

    All the patches I though sounded terrible came from the Ge200 ... ouch, I was looking at it, thanks for saving me a purchase I would have regretted ... the ampero is quite a bit more expensive and there are amps models in the amepro that are absolute shite while others are very very good ... decisions decisions ... you could redo this with the 2.03 update on the GE200, maybe the GE200 will be a lot better ... hopefully.

  • @vondragonnoggin
    @vondragonnoggin 5 лет назад +6

    Thanks for this comparison. I just bought the ampero. To tell the truth after watching countless videos on Helix (Flagship, LT, FX), Axe FX (II, III, AX8), Kemper, Boss GT-1000 (also 100 and GT-1), Katana (I and II), Headrush, Mooer (GE-200, GE-300, Preamp Live, Micro Preamps), Bias Head, and finally the Ampero, I think any of these modelers with the right tweaking can sound amazing. I ended up picking up the Ampero for size, look, sound, editor, extra features like loading your own cab IR's, Drum tracks, acoustic sim, switchable sources (I have several synths). Mostly was looking for something in a pedalboard form that could get as close as I get using Bias FX on iPad and Guitar Rig 5 on my laptop. I also play with a drummer that has a studio and good PA system and this is going to kick ass in portability and setup. Everything in a small backpack, my guitar in a case, a few beers and I am ready for a great jam session. I also have a few real lunchbox size mini amp heads (Mahaffay Plexi, AMT Stonehead SH-50-4, Peavey ValveKing II) a Marshall 2/12 vertical slant cab, a Peavey 1/12 closed back cab, a couple preamps (AMT SS-20 three channel Tube preamp w/fx loop and cab sim out, AMT D2 Legendary series Diezel VH4 emulation preamp (no fx loop), and an AMT Chameleon Cab cab sim pedal. All the modelers, the preamps, the amps, the cabs, and my actual pedal effects all sound very good these days. Hard not to be able to dial in a good tone out of all that. Ampero mostly gives convenience and ease on small size but tonal palette being very large. Guitarists are very lucky today with options.

    • @TaylorDanley
      @TaylorDanley  5 лет назад +2

      Thanks so much for the great, thoughtful comment. I agree! What a great time to be a guitar player with all the options we have.
      Yes the ampero is really a great option for someone who likes the portability and ease of use of something like the ge300, but needs the additional I/O options. I bought it for those reasons, and because I wanted to use midi switching (which is ridiculously awesome BTW).
      Rock on my friend! 🤘🤘

    • @Lars-ju9pw
      @Lars-ju9pw 5 лет назад +1

      @@TaylorDanley I've got an IK Multimedia Axe I/O interface. It supports midi presets with a dial and push button. I'm kind of hoping I can figure out how to use that to change which preset the Ampero is set on.

    • @TaylorDanley
      @TaylorDanley  5 лет назад +1

      @@Lars-ju9pw I know nothing about that interface, but good luck!

  • @dudditzdaddidaz
    @dudditzdaddidaz 5 лет назад +1

    Has it got whammy effect?

  • @kevincourcey813
    @kevincourcey813 5 лет назад +12

    Ampero wins again. The Mooer, while close, has too much high end fizz going on. Ampero seems to have better dynamic range.

    • @MrFree-vj8qj
      @MrFree-vj8qj 5 лет назад +2

      sure since its more expensive it must be better! (even tough it's all the same math)
      Why people waste time on subjective bs ? just lay out all the specs and models and simulation. can it do dual channels etc everybody stuck into the "better tone" there is no better tone, every sound for a situation, high end fuzz could come handy too, be creative instead of delluded

    • @kevincourcey813
      @kevincourcey813 5 лет назад

      @@MrFree-vj8qj Wow. that's a lot of emotion over an fx pdeal. Actually, I bought an Ampero and was so disappointed with the reverbs that I sent it back. Ended up with a Zoom Gn5. But I do find A/B videos like this very helpful.

    • @MrFree-vj8qj
      @MrFree-vj8qj 5 лет назад

      @@kevincourcey813 there are no emotions, only objective facts, you must be pretty sensitive to assume things and you prob perceive everything with tainted glasses
      Your disappointment is one big evidence of that

    • @DocHollidayGames
      @DocHollidayGames 4 года назад

      @@MrFree-vj8qj At what point did he mention price?

  • @MobileDecay
    @MobileDecay 4 года назад +3

    The Ampero mostly sounds better. You could probably eq the difference though.

    • @TaylorDanley
      @TaylorDanley  4 года назад +1

      One of the things that is kind of a bummer about the ampero is there is no global eq, and the eq block that's built in in sort of limited. But you could probably eq it into the same ballpark

    • @MobileDecay
      @MobileDecay 4 года назад +1

      @@TaylorDanley Oh I was talking about eqing the Mooer.

    • @TaylorDanley
      @TaylorDanley  4 года назад

      @@MobileDecay gotcha. Same sort of limitations though lol.

    • @igor-grudinin
      @igor-grudinin 3 года назад

      @@TaylorDanley you can use analog equalizer pedal BEFORE the processor, changing the sound structure on it's input

    • @kamilchosta5526
      @kamilchosta5526 3 года назад

      @@TaylorDanley They added global EQ in one of the recent updates! :)

  • @TheGodFatherBlasta
    @TheGodFatherBlasta 4 года назад

    Which one is Cheaper now?

  • @psquaredproductions1
    @psquaredproductions1 4 года назад +3

    I’m a complete noob and was wondering if you have ever done a tutorial on how to import ir’s into a Moore ge200?

    • @TaylorDanley
      @TaylorDanley  4 года назад

      I haven't specifically on that topic, but I think I covered it in one of the ge200 vids. If I remember correctly, use the app and there should be a + button where you select your cab, add it there

  • @johnong2655
    @johnong2655 5 лет назад +1

    I just found out Ampero has some noise issue, whereas Mooer is noise free. Is that true?

    • @TaylorDanley
      @TaylorDanley  5 лет назад +2

      I have not noticed and difference between the two in signal noise.

  • @juandaep696
    @juandaep696 5 лет назад +1

    is ampero have pitch shifther fx or not?

  • @oderusurdugus
    @oderusurdugus 5 лет назад +2

    I'm sold on the Ampero, have to get one.

  • @СемёнВасильевич-н4ш
    @СемёнВасильевич-н4ш 3 года назад +1

    Mesa dual rectifier on ampero sounds amazing!!!

  • @renotito3754
    @renotito3754 5 лет назад +10

    Ampero amp sim sounds better i guess

    • @TaylorDanley
      @TaylorDanley  5 лет назад +1

      They're soooooooo close when using the same IR. I think it really boils down to, do you need the extra features Ampero offers. I would be totally happy using just the ge200 if I didn't need midi and the extra I/O

  • @barrygomez5968
    @barrygomez5968 5 лет назад +2

    With the 5150 u had the screamer gain on 10? Didnt sound like it hmmm

    • @TaylorDanley
      @TaylorDanley  5 лет назад

      Yep. Didn't sound like it as in it sounded like more or less?

  •  4 года назад +3

    The ampero is 10000 times better

  • @javirock1421
    @javirock1421 4 года назад +1

    very good reviews man!!!..

  • @chrisstrong3748
    @chrisstrong3748 5 лет назад +1

    Transition idea:
    Finger guns
    Also, I couldn't decide from the last video because the 5150 from the ampero sounded terrible to me with its stock IR, but the Engl models were really close and the Mesa was way ballsier and had that snarly low end on the ampero that I liked. Never really formed a solid opinion on the Soldano models.
    But with this one the 5150 and Fireball are both really close, but the Dual Rec kicked the Mooer's ass again.
    I've seen other people comment that Mooer's modeling sounds more like eq variations between models than actually replicating the amps. And you can kind of hear how similar the character is on all of the Mooer clips, especially in the last video with the stock cab sims. But they always sound pretty close when compared to the amp they're modeled after, so 🤷‍♂️
    Curious if you have an opinion on the feel while playing and the features for the price.
    If you were using the same IR's, which would you recommend between the two?

    • @TaylorDanley
      @TaylorDanley  5 лет назад

      Holy shit, finger guns! Good call lol.
      YES, the Ampero has a little bit more liveliness to it in terms of feel. That may just be in my head, or may be because there is more high end, but it seems to react to my playing more like a real amp would. The Ge200 feels flatter by comparison.
      Most of my recommendation would be based off what works for you. If you need midi switching and balanced outs, ampero all day. But if not, you can really get damn close with the ge200 and some good impulses. The spacing on the foot switches is slightly wider on the ge200 as well, which is a factor if you plan on using them!

    • @chrisstrong3748
      @chrisstrong3748 5 лет назад

      @@TaylorDanley Well I don't really see myself ever needing all the midi stuff, since I just play at home and jam occasionally with friends. But even just sitting at home I love messing with different pedals, amp sims, stuff like that, just experimenting with tones. So I could probably find a sound I like with either one and not stray too far from it throughout the various models, but if the Ampero gives a bit more variety and character/sound with more dynamics/responsiveness, then it would probably be worth it.
      I've honestly been looking at the Mooer Preamp Live because I love the setup and simplicity of it. Long as it holds up sound wise I'd probably prefer that. I'm just not sure though. The tone capture seems to be spot on and that's something that really interests me too.
      And the other effects and the built in expression pedal add a lot to the value of the ge series and the ampero. I do like ambient delays and reverbs too, but I could also just throw the pedals I already have after the preamp live.
      Any thoughts on it? Have you tried one?

  • @SeacowCabs
    @SeacowCabs 5 лет назад +3

    Ampero sounds more bright but I can't say a lot of the 5150 or ENGL
    But as user of a dual recto the ge200 sounds a lot of a old Rev F recto and the Ampero sounds like a modern 3 channel Recto .
    maybe the difference are a lot more notable because both units don't use the same amp as reference
    You could simulate a 5150 but there are the classic 5150 and the 5150II also the 6505
    But both sounds great

  • @GVIRR
    @GVIRR 4 года назад +1

    For me the Mooer GE200 is the winner

  • @skwong2815
    @skwong2815 5 лет назад +1

    NICE comparison, and you should definitely try ampero vs your axefx. In my opinion, ampero's hi-gain modeling like Rectifier Savage 5150 sounds quite similar to my axefx2.

    • @TaylorDanley
      @TaylorDanley  5 лет назад

      Thanks for the comment! I'm working on that video, hopefully I should have it up soon!

    • @skwong2815
      @skwong2815 5 лет назад

      @@TaylorDanley can't wait to see that.

  • @jimshea2292
    @jimshea2292 4 года назад +1

    To my ears - In your first video the Mooer sounded better. In this video, the Ampero smokes the Mooer. Seems like the Ampero plays a lot better with the IR's,

    • @TaylorDanley
      @TaylorDanley  4 года назад +1

      It's true, the Amperos cabs are incredibly temperamental and fizzy, they take some time to dial in

  • @bigtrouble4447
    @bigtrouble4447 3 года назад +1

    the 5150 examples sound the closest to each other.... the rest of the examples sound way better thru the ampero... the mooer sounds like somebody threw a blanket over the cabinet every time it kicked in... ampero hands down... and i own this mooer... looks like im buying a new piece of gear... lol peace

  • @MrFree-vj8qj
    @MrFree-vj8qj 5 лет назад +3

    sure since its more expensive it must be better! (even tough it's all the same math)
    Why people waste time on subjective bs ? just lay out all the specs effects amp cabs and models and simulations and compare them, can it do dual channels etc everybody stuck into the "better tone" there is no better tone, every sound for a situation, high end fuzz could come handy too, be creative instead of delluded
    I'd like to acutaly see some objective review because I dont give two damn about the sound, I can get whatever I want that the public likes from any unit.

  • @JohnnyJamesGio
    @JohnnyJamesGio 4 года назад +1

    Mooer sounds kinda more shallow. Ampero sounds better to my ear

  • @java73
    @java73 5 лет назад +3

    Ampero!

  • @timmyferrell8385
    @timmyferrell8385 4 года назад +1

    Ampero

  • @dudditzdaddidaz
    @dudditzdaddidaz 5 лет назад +2

    Ampero +

  • @ray66antonio
    @ray66antonio 5 лет назад +2

    ampero

  • @Glensully
    @Glensully 5 месяцев назад

    A & D & E ARE BEST I THINK.

  • @buriedinsanity9812
    @buriedinsanity9812 4 года назад

    Do Do

  • @carlosjunior7679
    @carlosjunior7679 5 лет назад +2

    little difference !! almost the same, for the price Mooer wins !!

  • @jasoncohran7265
    @jasoncohran7265 5 лет назад +5

    Poop!

  • @barryprosser1370
    @barryprosser1370 4 года назад +1

    Poop

  • @andreydanov5946
    @andreydanov5946 4 года назад

    Hello guys there is and other music than heavy metal!

    • @igor-grudinin
      @igor-grudinin 3 года назад +1

      then why do you need a guitar? buy better a piano keyboard