Wolverine 8mm Film Scanner Not Advancing Film Properly
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- Опубликовано: 22 ноя 2021
- In this video, I show why the 8mm film may not be advancing properly in the Wolverine 8mm Film to Digital Converter and how to fix the problem by adjusting the press plate.
Had this problem with my Wolverine - the film was not being pulled through. My solution was to only thread the film on the back end using only the first two rollers on the left - making it easier for the take-up reel to pull the film. It worked, and still works, perfectly - making me wonder why the other two rollers are even there. If this happens again, I'll try adjusting the plates.
Thank you for sharing how you fixed your problem. Sometimes, I skip the first couple of rollers when the take up reel is not working properly. This mainly happens with 400 ft reels. The take up reel seems to get bogged down. Please subscribe to may channel if you have not already. I appreciate you watching the videos!
Thank you!!!!!!!!!! This solved my problem
With a reel that kept getting stuck I ended up using the rewind setup (eg no rollers) and it’s working. At first I just skipped a couple of rollers but the film got stuck partway through. I think there’s something wrong with sections of the film so any amount of successful digitizing is appreciated.
Also had this problem but I couldn't turn the damn screws even with a "00" Philips. Used tape to hold it down. Worked for about 5-6 7" reels, then started up again. Finally got at least the right screw turned just a 1/4 turn to increase downward pressure. So far working like a charm. (I have an unbelievable amount of film to to do, all 7" reels) Thank You!!! Was ready to use projector and film it but while this may be painfully slow, the results are better.
I used to use a projector years ago and though it may be faster, when the bulb burst it was pretty expensive to replace. I hated doing it that way. The screws are a bit tough and if you screw them out too far, then they wont go back in. I learned that the hard way. Just a small turn like you did does the trick. Thank you very much for your comment and please make sure to subscribe if you have not already!
I have had two of these units and also the Pro version. I have transferred around two thousand films to date. They best way to solve this problem is not to use the film rewind arm. It doesn’t have the electronics that will handle this problem. I tried everything that was possible. You will never have a problem if you simply let the film drop into a box instead of using the rewind arm. I then use an old projector to rewind the film, very simple and easy. Also have a usb laptop fan that I have blue-tacked to the unit before the film hits the light box, I clean the film thoroughly first. Nothing more annoying that to get to the end of a reel and find a dirty mark has been recorded.
That’s a cool idea. Sometimes my take up reel stops working and if I don’t catch it, the film piled up. I’d do what you are doing but my cats like to play with the film if it doesn’t get taken up!
Thanks! This worked for me!
That's great! I'm really happy I was able to help.
Is there a way to “loosen” the reel arm that the original film is a attached too? Or make it turn smoother? I find that my machine will not advance that reel sometimes unless I loosen the film in it (and who wants to sit there and do that?). Would W-D 40 be ok to use on the spindle?
The arm that the reel is attached to is free turning. There is not any kind of motor attached to it. You could try some W-D 40 I suppose but make sure you don't get any on the film since it is a dissolvent as well as a lubricant. Thank you for watching and subscribing!
Thank you, you saved my day!|
Glad it helped!
yes, I found the same. Thank you!
Great!
Question Mark. My scans are getting jittery and I believe the culprit is the pressplate being too loose. I have a Wolverine Pro, and when the film gate is open, there is no screwdriver on earth that can access the pressplate screws because of their angle and the machine's outer lip (where the 8 and super 8 switch is). How do you actually get a screwdriver to angle into the pressplate's screws' philips heads?
I made a video about this. I used a small screwdriver that one would use for eyeglasses. Wolverine 8mm Film Scanner Not Advancing Film Properly
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I have a reel which was cut a bit too wide so it's good to know this may be a fixable problem. I have a (vaguely) related question: is it possible to scan a single frame? Meaning, with the automatic frame advance turned off? I have a segment of a fragile film which has been mangled in a projector many moons ago and now has a number of transverse creases resulting in a zigzag-like part. This certainly won't go through the scanner but if it was possible to simply do this portion of the film _manually advancing_ frame by frame, I could salvage the footage. Can this be done? For example, can the advance needle-thingy be temporarily deactivated or removed?
Hi JanPBtest! Great question. Unless you are an engineer who can take things apart and then put them back again, I would not try messing with the advance needle. However, I do have an idea. If you have a flatbed scanner like the Epson Perfection V600, which has a slide scanner setting, you can use that but it will take a while. I have used this trick with little micro fiche type film. Place the film on the scanner and use plastic tape to hold it in place if you want. It needs to be lined up where you would place the 35mm film but do not use the 35mm holder. Scan at a very high resolution since you will need to blow up the frames in your editing program. You will be able to scan a lot of frames at one time. Once scanned, you will need to select each individual frame and import them into your editing program. That should do the trick! Regarding the creases in your film: I did see a guy take wrinkles out of film by using an iron on low heat and a towel as a buffer. I have not tried this but if you decide to, try it on a small portion. I hope that this helps! Please subscribe if you have not already, it would be greatly appreciated!!!
Try scanning in reverse. The sprocket holes are usually worn out only in one direction.
That is an interesting solution. Have you tried that method? Easy to fix the direction in post.
@@TheMediaNerdMT yes i scanned a bad 8mm film in reverse and changed direction in Powerdirctor
@@hansjorgcandrian2023 That's good to know! Thanks.
I have several reels that get stuck. After seeing your video and reading the comments, I played around with various setups. Using only the last roller on the right side seems to work most of the time, but sometimes using none on that side is the only thing that has worked. When I adjust the frame alignment, I can tell whether the film will advance. Getting the film to advance correctly seems rather random, and sometimes it’s advancing well but suddenly stops (if the film was spliced I can’t tell). I think that something must be creating too much tension.
Some times when the film is cut (physically) it can be off by a hair width wise and that is all that it takes for it to not go through properly. Did you clean the film first? The cleaner will also lube up the film to help it run a bit better.
@@TheMediaNerdMT didn’t clean it first. I’ll try that next time - thanks!
Adding a slightly unrelated question but one that affects the movement of the film through the scanner-not sure where the question belongs: We have a many old super 8 reels. Some of the film reels don’t work with the wolverine’s adapter - the spool size is slightly smaller or a slightly different shape and doesn’t work with the super 8 adapter.
@sk8gal I have wrapped black tape around the grey and red adapter when the reel hole is too big. I have also slightly tilted the machine back when I find that the reel likes to slip off.
thanks!!
You're welcome!
One more question...How can I change the date and time? When I upload the SD Card the date is WAYYY off. Thanks again.
There is no way to change the date. What you are seeing is the version number of the unit. I just looked through the settings and when I looked at the Version of the unit, it appeared as a date.
Have a Panasonic fs81 that seems to make a knocking sound each time it advances. Like the one in video but much louder. It advances OK except when a splice is encountered. Thoughts?
I have noticed that all of these types of machines start to get louder with use. Some make a grinding sound as well and I just have to tune it out. None of them seem to take a taped splice very well. The only splice that seems to go through smoothly are the ones that use the cement type splice that you would see on a developed reel connecting the leader to the film. There are splice machines that one can purchase that makes these solid splices but I have never used one. I did look into them and they are $$$.
@@TheMediaNerdMT Thanks. Could it be to much pressure on the film? I have noticed that on occasion, maybe 10% of the time it goes nice and quiet then back to hard knowing sound. Lubrication?
I have found that the take up reel on this and similar machines start to fail. You could try lubricants but I don’t know where and you would have to take the machine apart.
I spent seven hours recording to digital about 13 reels and only got about 16 minutes recorded.... No, I did not think to check each time to see if it had recorded, I was too trusting... Now I have to do it all over again....
Also, when trying to prepare for set up I cannot get it to show the xyz etc adjustment screen... Seems they only show up when the machine decides to let me see the adjustment which is very rare....
Sounds like your machine is defective. You need to call the manufacturer or try and get it replaced from where you purchased it from. Honestly, I switched over to the Kodak reels machine. So far I like it better. Thanks for watching and please help support the channel by subscribing!
Hello, I found your video by doing a search for my problem. Mine is a little strange. Ive digitized about 30 reels flawlessly ( minus a quirk when a spliced tape goes through but thats not the issue here ). This morning Im converting and 3 minutes of film goes through without a problem and then I come to another scene ( a snowing skiing scene ) and I really want to digitize this. Well the Wolverine digitizer doesnt wont to advance the film on through. It goes back and forth on the same frame. I give it a gentle tug to help it through. That doesnt work. I pull the pressure plate lid up and advance the film myself a foot or two and replace the lid. Still same problem. Now Im confused. so I start the film over from the very front of leader. Again the film advances flawlessly until it again gets to the snow scene. So I take that reel off and do another reel. Runs flawlessly. I look again at the problemed reel of film and the area that it starts to refuse to advance and even the areas that AFTER the problem begins ( and yet it wont advance in those areas ) and there is no torn sprocket holes nor any tape or cement so I am left looking for answers. Do you have any for me please ? Thank you ! I have subscribed .
I think the issue may be width of the film. I have heard of this issue before and what I have found is that the film was improperly cut so it is getting jammed because it is slightly larger than 8mm. Have you cleaned your film to help make it go through the machine smoother? That may help. Thankyou for subscribing!
@@TheMediaNerdMT Thanks for the fast reply ! If I run into a problem like that I will pust feed the film through my fingers holding soft tissue so I can sense any physical problem with the film and didnt find anything. I would like to think maybe that area of the film shrunk some * but why not the beginning of the film? ) I just dont know. I wiil move forward away from this scene and try again and let you know.. Thanks again.
@@TheMediaNerdMT i switched the machine to convert super 8mm and it went through fine. Havent looked closely to the film yet but it looks like it could be super 8. I thought those machines just changed the view scope settings and not how that needle that goes up and down does its thing .
Sorry I didn't mention that. I was thinking that the ski film was just a small section of one reel that was spliced in, not its own reel. Regular 8 and Super 8 are different. That is why there is a switch. Most super 8 reels are on a reel that has a larger hole about the diameter of a marker. Regular 8 has a hole the diameter of a pencil. However, the reels could be interchanged. The sprocket holes are the true identifier of the type of film. Super 8 can also have sound which is identified by a brown strip (typically) the same color as an audio cassette that runs on other side of the hole sprockets.
@@TheMediaNerdMT Thank you for taking time out to share your knowledge
I have this problem but i'm having it with fresh super 8 film?
I hate to ask this but did you flip the switch to the super 8 setting? Did you try a different reel to see if you have the same issue? Did you clean your film? Cleaning lubes it up making it run smoother through the machine. Thank you for watching and please support the channel by subscribing. I'd really appreciate it.
Should you tighten the pressure plate screws or widen them to make the springs bigger and exert more force?
You should turn them to bring down the plate to add more pressure to the film. Only do a quarter of a turn then try it. I have turned mine too much and the screw came out and I could not get it back in pretty much killing the entire machine.
@@TheMediaNerdMT I also have a Reflecta. It has already digitized one million and four hundred thousand frames and is operational. The wolverine, counting the number of uses, when it reached eighty it started to become popular, initially only in super 8 mm films and now in all.
Look, apparently I solved the problem with a toothpick, relieving the door that fixes the film. In my case it would be excessive force on the film. 😁
Hi, my Woverine doesn't have the first tray...
Did you purchase a used one? If I were you, I’d return it and purchase a Kodak Reels. Check out my videos I did with the Kodak.
My problem is that the frames are being scanned 1/2 & 1/2, not one complete frame. I tried many ways but couldn't adjust the vertical frame adjust. Horizontal is ok. Pls guide me to solve this problem. The film I am working on is a regular 8mm and the spokes are very fine.
IF you have adjusted the X and Y and also zoomed in or out to get a proper frame, I am not sure what the problem could be. Do you have another film to try? Are you sure that you have it set to the 8mm setting?
The super 8 film is running smoothly. Only problem comes with regular 8mm film.
It almost sounds like the lever that moves back and forth from super 8 to regular 8 is not going into position correctly. Flip open the cover that the film goes under and flip between super 8 and regular 8 to see if it is moving correctly. If you have purchased it less than a year ago, it still may be under warranty so you could try calling Wolverine to see what they say. Please make sure to support my channel by subscribing if you have not done so already. I'd greatly appreciate it.
Sir. I adjusted the Y and also I tried Zoom and now it is working perfectly. Thanks a million, bro. GOD bless you
@@TheMediaNerdMT All working perfactly Sir. I adjusted the Y and Zoom. Thnx bro
why does the film always start out rough… it jumps and makes a double click noice instead of the well running single click… you can see it is clicking when the picture is only half in the frame. after a minute or 2 it runs normally. tube holes in the film is not damaged. thanks
When I put the film in place, it is past the leader so I can make the X and Y adjustment. I then give it a little light tug backward to make sure that it is seated properly. You will feel it catch on the pin. I then adjust the X and Y to make sure that it is centered properly and then start the transfer. I hope that this helps. Please make sure to subscribe if you have not already!
@@TheMediaNerdMT Hey Mark! I finally got the Wolverine, question: if you loosen the screws a little bit so the film runs better (and doesn't get stuck very edited piece), wouldn't it affect the X/Y adjustment since the film has more free movement that might get the frame out of position every few minutes or every edited area?
@@REALGOLD20 Loosening the screws only raises and lowers the sled but don't do it too much or the screws will come out and not go back in. It does not effect the X or Y. The X and Y goes side to side and back and forth, not up and down.
I'm still having problems with this shooting device, I don't think the film shift is technically very well solved.
What kind of issue are you having?
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@@TheMediaNerdMT the shooting window is not stable, the image shifts, sometimes the machine jams and the film does not move forward
Did you check out my video about the film not advancing and how to fix it? ruclips.net/video/TLI9gAqmHfo/видео.html
Also, did you make sure that you have the switch on the front of the machine set for either 8mm and super 8mm set correctly?
@@TheMediaNerdMT yes I have already tightened and loosened the screws but without improvement. My device is completely missing the pressure mechanism to the left in front of the scanning window. I don't know if this is the cause of the bad scan. ? Some of the 8mm films made are Russian, I would expect a problem with the size, but it will also happen in the AGFA Moviechome Germany films.