Mechanical components appear to be identical to my Magnasonic FS-81 film scanner. However the film in take up reel section seem to be less curled up because there are only 3 film guide rollers opposed to 4 on the Wolverine. However I occasionally get jitter too. I do the same as you by totally zooming out the image with the scanner. I use iMovie with my iMac and it’s pretty easy to crop. I just clip the crop button and can use my mouse to adjust the framing, color correction, speed etc. I also adjust my 8mm film scanned speed to 80%. Most of my late dad’s 8mm movies were also Kodak Kodachrome or Ektachrome with Kodachrome being the best. They go back almost 60 years too and still look excellent. He used a couple of budget Super 8mm many years later that was total crap with color being very purple . Good demo Dave!
loved it, great solution. we used to 'bin' film when i was in animation - into barrels but same idea. -we wanted it out of a canister/reel to visually quick look at segments
Very cool machine, I love the control a person has over the final product vs the technique where you project in a box with mirror that puts image onto a small screen that you focus a vhs cam or digital cam on. 😎👍
Not using the high torque take up, and not running the film through the three pins also stops the machine from scratching the film. Looks like a good way to do it.
Great vlog and very professional way you transfer film good work.You will also find many 35mm professional film editors, also let the film reel out onto the floor or box
excellent tip you are sharing here with the box receiving the film!!! I am going to do that from now on. It is true that the tension created by the other reel can mess up the film or the process.
Great video. Just wondering if the film scanning software has any provision for dust and scratch removal just as scanner software for slides and negatives often has.
Nice. Having the equipment is the way to get things like slides, film, be it super 8 or 8mm or even 16mm scanned to digital and done well. I've transferred slides to a digital camera by projecting the slides onto a wall in a dark windowless bathroom then processed in Photoshop, worked pretty well I might add. Love your jog wheel device, a throwback to the days of tape, but this time, you are manipulating the file on your computer as if it were tape. I make do with the keyboard, but having one of those for editing would be even better. As one that edits my own videos, I understand all that is needed to do it successfully, and if I don't know a technique, I can root on the interqwebs for how to and then go from there.
The shuttle pro2 controller is the biggest time saving device that I have on my edit system. I've had a system like this for years. My original one had a trackball with the job ring and buttons for things like cut forward reverse delete ripple delete I had five buttons and basically combined the operation of the mouse and edit control in one device it was pretty good. I think I had the buttons programmed cut ripple delete reverse stop forward left mouse button right mouse button and then the track wheel of course move the mouse around and the jog control move the video at various speeds from one frame all the way to fast forward or rewind. After many years of service the trackball started to stick at a specific point and it was driving me crazy plus the rubber coating started to get all sticky like all that rubber coating does. So I replaced it with the shuttle pro2. Biggest Time saver because it has 15 programmable buttons that can do everything. I have mine set to cut, dissolve, save, ripple delete all the top row. Second row is previous edit reverse stop forward next edit. But I have an undo and redo on either side of the jog wheel. Below the jog ring time line zoom and delete. What I am editing my left hand sits on the controller my right hand the mouse. I don't touch the keyboard except if I have to enter a title or enter a file to be saved such as when the project is complete. It doesn't seem like much because everything can be done by the keyboard but it saves so much time. Even if it only saved a minute or two it would be worthwhile but it saves much more time than that. I would say that this probably cuts down the editing Time by at least 25% believe it or not. On the keyboard for example to edit out a segment and then dissolve between the two cut pieces. You play it to your cut point press space to stop hit your C left click scroll up to your endpoint left click again then highlight the segment you want to remove right click scroll down to ripple delete and left click. Then you have to hit v, move mouse to transitions and drag your cross dissolve down and drop it on the transition point. Will shuttle pro as you're playing tape and you can do this in real time while it's running or stop it tap the track split key go to the end of the edit and tap track split again stop. With mouse click on the segment you wish to delete hit ripple delete key on shuttle pro hit previous edit key then hit dissolve key on shuttle pro. 5 key clicks and 1 mouse click vs at least 5 key presses and a bunch more most movements scrubbing the timeline to find the edit point plus more mouse movements around the screen dragging transitions down. I still have to use the mouse if I want to do a wipe or some other type of transition but for the most common the cross dissolve it's there one key. Doesn't seem like much but it really cuts down on editing and just stream lines the entire operation. They're not cheap but the time savings is worth it.
In this video, you adjust the aspect ratio to 125:85, or 1.47. However, 8mm aspect ratio is 1.33. How do you account for this discrepancy? And FYI, this video was a lifesaver for me because I use Premiere Pro. Saved me a lot of time and effort. Thank you!!
I use my wolverine scanner as a door stop to the room where my MovieStuff scanner is setup, works great the door stays open and I don't destroy peoples priceless memories..
Never have damaged a single film in this one. I have received damaged film, plenty of it, but this hasn't damaged any. To call them "priceless" is quite humorous considering that 9 out of 10 clients, when they pick up their film and transfer ask if I can dispose of their old films for them. I tell them just to put them in the garbage of they don't want to hang onto them. Same with video tapes. Customers PAY ME to bulk erase and dispose of their old camcorder and VHS tapes after they are transferred to digital. So priceless, I wouldn't go that far. This is also why I have never invested in a more expensive system, as I would have to raise my price, and nobody wants to pay that. There is a local company that has a real high end system, but his rates are 1.00 per foot. at .20 a foot people here are having to "think about" if they want to spend that money, or just point a projector at the wall and record it on their phone. Thats about how much people care about their old home movies.
@@12voltvids Thats good to know. I personnally have owned two of those machines and both damaged my film so I would never use it on a customers. Sorry you feel like film isn't a precious medium or the the memories or stories have no meaning to your custmoers that is sad. As far as quality you get what you pay for. Good luck I wish you well.
@@RickGreenPhoto I don't use the take up spool. I let the film drop off the desk into a box. No scratches no damage. People just don't care about old film. I have been transferring 8mm and super 8 since the mid 80s. Have done hundreds of thousands of feet. Still have my old projector and 3ccd camera for it. Transfered 4 3 retail photo shops back in the day. Don't see nearly as much now because most people in the area had it done by me over the past 35 years.
@@RickGreenPhoto nobody shoots film for home use today. The film might get in was not shot generally by the people that are bringing it to me it was their grandparents film or even their parents film that they found in a box somewhere. It hasn't been stored correctly most of it is damaged or broken or moldy. They just want to see what's on it. Most recent film I got fella brought it to me it was his mother's first wedding. So as he put it other than his mother he won't recognize anybody in the film but did it just to preserve some pictures of her when she was young. Again never have damaged film.
What a handy machine and your corrections gets the best out of it. Premiere looks ideal. Shame the take up is buggered, but the film bin works :-D That take up should of lasted a lifetime, its not under great stress.
Maybe a stupid question. But why export at 30 FPS instead of 16? Wouldn't it be more flexible to let the player choose how to handle it, how to insert duplicate frames, etc, based on the kind of display output it's connected to?
If the file is only going to be viewed on computer then it could be output in any frame rate. If for example the file is intended to be run on media players or burned into a DVD it needs to compliant with tv standard which is 30 frames. For a 16 frame film it basically repeats each frame twice, for 7 frames and then the 8th once. You don't notice this when viewing but it makes everything comparable and future proof.
@@12voltvids I guess it's my perfectionist archivist/preservationist mind overthinking. Makes sense that for "regular" customers the main goal is maximum compatibility and ease us use instead of fidelity to the original content. And under that mindset I suppose that 30 FPS makes a lot of sense.
@@jeremiefaucher-goulet3365 people want to play the files in things like smart TVs. Most will not accept non standard frame rates. They support 24, 30 and 60.
It doesn't scan sound. It only scans 2 frames per second. Sound has to be taken off seperately with projector and synced with the film. This adds extra time which I charge extra to do. I did one of my father in-laws talkies and it is on my channel. Called mr gullible. It was an 8mm sound.
@@12voltvids My grandfather had a Bell & Howell 8 mm setup with sound, but it recorded the soundtrack onto an audio cassette tape machine that was special made to sync to the picture. I have no idea the mechanism that was used to achieve this. Ever seen one of those?
@@zulumax1 I've got an ITT Schaub-Lorenz cassetterecorder 740AV. The film camera sends a bleep every 4 frames via a "synvoton" to an extra track on the cassetterecorder. The bleeps were used to sync with a slide or film projector.
It's an old PC. At least 10 years old. I7 quad core, 16 gigs ram and a ton of hard drive space. About 7tb of drive storage on board and dockable drive. It's fast. I run no av software as it is an offline machine specifically built as an editor.
@@12voltvids That's good you don't run any anti-virus software as it's an offline system there is no need, the software suite you use must be pretty good.
No 8mm film is not 24. It is 16. Super 8 silent was 18. Sound could be 18 or 24. 16 is 24 as is 35. I use 30 to maintain comparability with all devices. Last thing i need to do is hand someone a transfer and they can't play it on their equipment and I end up doing it again for free.
@@filip.zivkovic try putting them on a DVD and playing on a DVD player and see how fast your luck runs our. Not talking about "your" devices. I am talking compatabiliry with all devices. If i hand something to a client that won't play on one of their devices I am doing it again for free. So why not just format in a universal format that all devices can read no matter what their age. That's one of the things that ticks me off with some of the new cameras. They use h.265 as opposed to h.264. my editing software doesn't support 265 so I have to convert before i can use it. Their answer is upgrade. Easier said than done.
@@filip.zivkovic Your computer, phone etc, yes, but not your TV, nor it's DVD/Blue Ray player will accept just about anything, it MUST be of certain frame rates, in N.A. it's 24, 30, or 60 frames, no more, no less, and likely H.264 for the codec/container, again, no more, no less To give you an example, I have a JVC head unit in my car that I bought new in 2012 that only accepts MP3 and WAV files, no more, no less. For MP3, it's all qualities, but for WAV, it's ONLY 16/44.1, no more, no less. As Dave says, Your equipment is not everyone else's, so he has to use a format/frame rate that is common to ALL.
Being colourblind "colour correction" is almost an impossibility. I have to trust my film or DSLR to get it right. Most of the time when shooting film I use B&W films to avoid this. When I find I have to do it, god I hate colour correction. Even if I know there is a problem I wont be able to resolve it beyond randomly adjusting things. Can take days.
When I was in the business we had a competitor that operated also in the area and I swear to God this guy was color blind because I'd get TVs and then he'd worked on and they were so far off and a cuss word always say yeah the guy from the mobile TV clinic was out working on the TV and the color was never right after he worked on it. I'd fix it properly. I swear to God the guy was color blind
It's a consumer device. Load the film and play the file. Not everyone wants to dick around rendering files. Many will crop it on the machine and play the files directly.
No sound track on super 8 film, in the majority of cases. For those with a sound track I would guess he simply plays it in a projector, and records a sound track off the film, and then adds it in in the edit after running it through a noise reduction filter.
@@SeanBZA exactly. Very few films have sound. 1 out of 50. Why. Because sound film cost about double what silent. A 3 minute silent back in the 70s about 20 with processing a sound closer to 40.
had only bad experience with that type of.film scanner (from Wolverine, auvisio or Reflecta Branded...) ... the Transport is not working exact enough, so the Picture will flip vertical... really anoying .. its because the cheap mechanism... and another problem: The "Bad and unsharp-noisy" picture Ive upgraded to a telecine-modified Bauer T502 Projector! with a special telecine lens and a sync modified motorcontroller = BETTER RESULTS!
I have tripods that cost more than my camera. Is 3000.00 enough for you? I have a camera jib mount in the shop. I just didn't feel like dragging it out. I did drag it out for the shots of the screen.
None of the frame scanners can. You have to really spend big bucks to get that. One of my clients has such a system. He charges 100 per 50 foot reel to scan. I charge 20 as it is alot of work.
@@frankowalker4662 5000 just for the film gate and you need one for every size of film you plan to do. 8mm super 8, 9.5, 16, super 16, 19, 35 ect. He has most of them but doesn't do much home film archiving. 50.00 to transfer a 3 minute home 8mm silent film is far above what 99.9% would pay. He does work for governments, museums, broadcasters ect. Tax payers money in many cases. I have a hard time getting 10 for a 50 foot reel. Obviously these days I don't get huge orders that often because once the cost of having me transfer someone's movies exceeds the cost of buying a wolverine themselves they're going to opt to buy the equipment and do it themselves which is fine because it's very time consuming. This little 100 ft real for example took an hour to scan and another 30 minutes to process. So for me I made 20 bucks to do this job. Back in the days when I was doing film transfer work for the two local photo Labs I got $0.10 a foot, about half of what I get now but then a 100 ft roll of film only took 6 minutes to record onto a VHS tape or a DVD now a 6-minute roll film takes an hour and a half. Love the trolls that will comment about the machine and in their opinion lack of quality and compare it to a $200,000 machine or even a $10,000 machine. Of course it's not going to look as good as a 10,000 machine but how much would I have to charge to pay off a $10,000 machine? There's just not that much business in the home movie scanning work anymore. Most people had it done back in the 80s and '90s when I was swamped with work. I was so busy when the photo Labs were around I would go to them everyday and pick up a half a dozen orders from each and do that 6 days a week. I was making more doing video transfer work that I was fixing televisions working full time and I was paid well when I was in the repair business. Even just shooting video was good money. corporate and weddings paid well. Not anymore, everybody's got a good camera in their phone and editing software is cheap no money in that. Just like TV repair the bottom fell out in the early 2000s. I went from getting bookings to shoot videos where I was being paid between 2 and 3 Grand two couples asking if I could show up with a crew and shoot their wedding for 500 bucks. My response was I won't even turn my camera on for 500 bucks good luck with Uncle Bob and his fancy new camera. That brings out another funny story that I should talk about. Funny young woman that called me about 20 years ago to get a price on shooting their wedding tried to lowball me I said nope sorry not interested. After her wedding day came and went I got a call from her she was all panicked she had a relative shoot her wedding with his new video camera and the idiot held the camera in portrait mode. You know he had the little screen flipped up and turn the camera sideways for head to toe shop from the aisle. of course when you play that on a TV everything's sideways and she was most upset she came to me and asked me to edit it and fix it and I said no problem and I charged her as much as I would have charged her to go and shoot the entire wedding to fix the mess of shots some that were shot in portrait some that were shot in landscape. then she comes back and asks how come all the portrait shots have black bars on the side? Yes she was blonde!
@@12voltvids I think the wolverine does a realy good job. As for the wonam with the relative filming sideways. LOL. There is nothing more to say about that.
@@frankowalker4662 I use the tagline from the fram oil filter so that one. You can pay me now or you can pay me later. Yes I got a good laugh out of that and even with all the processing I could do it's still look like crap. I didn't want to put my name anywhere near that I didn't want anyone to know that I had touched it. Shaky camera work heads cut off way too much headroom it was just a mess. At the reception have to speech is were cut off, he would stop tape to get another shot so the continuity of the speech was lost. First dance he started recording halfway through the song. When he walked around interviewing guess some of the things that people said where they were drunk we're not really that flattering for either of them and I had to make the decision to either allow them to stay in or cut them out. I called her and I said do you want all of these comments or do you want me to cut out the ones that are best flattering and she was like no we want all the guest comments in so I left them in and then she comes back after the fact it says why did you leave that one in I can't let my mother see this tape. Is she that's the type of thing that if I had been shooting a wedding and some guests made some comment that was very off color they would have never seen it because I would have cut it and no one would have even known that it was said but she had seen the tape prior to bringing it to me and told me to leave all the comments in so I did what I was told and then I got shit for it after the fact and she wanted it redone so I said sure that'll be another 500 bucks to re-edit it. As I said she was blonde well then so is he I called it my Barbie and Ken doll wedding experience. I mean their ceremony was very nice and had I shot it for them with my crew they would have had something that would have been proud to show to everyone but they spent all their money on a high end photographer and had no money left for a videographer. Personally I think the video record is equally important if not more did the still photos. they paid something like $5,000 for a stills photographer and had no budget to do video. They could have hired a stills photographer for two grand and hired me for two grand and had two quality products. There were a few local photographers that I did a lot of work with we worked very well together because we had done literally hundreds of weddings together the fact we even had a package deal I think it was five grand for a photo and video package. But in this case I didn't get the gig to do the shoot and here I was now try to clean up the mess. I wanted to say it wasn't watchable it certainly was once I was done but because it was such a mess the raw footage it was it something that I would ever admit to have touching it was that far below my standard of quality.
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Thanks for sharing the information! I have movies from my childhood in the 60’s ! Now I know what to do !!!!
Mechanical components appear to be identical to my Magnasonic FS-81 film scanner. However the film in take up reel section seem to be less curled up because there are only 3 film guide rollers opposed to 4 on the Wolverine. However I occasionally get jitter too. I do the same as you by totally zooming out the image with the scanner. I use iMovie with my iMac and it’s pretty easy to crop. I just clip the crop button and can use my mouse to adjust the framing, color correction, speed etc. I also adjust my 8mm film scanned speed to 80%.
Most of my late dad’s 8mm movies were also Kodak Kodachrome or Ektachrome with Kodachrome being the best. They go back almost 60 years too and still look excellent. He used a couple of budget Super 8mm many years later that was total crap with color being very purple .
Good demo Dave!
loved it, great solution. we used to 'bin' film when i was in animation - into barrels but same idea. -we wanted it out of a canister/reel to visually quick look at segments
Very cool machine, I love the control a person has over the final product vs the technique where you project in a box with mirror that puts image onto a small screen that you focus a vhs cam or digital cam on. 😎👍
Not using the high torque take up, and not running the film through the three pins also stops the machine from scratching the film. Looks like a good way to do it.
Great vlog and very professional way you transfer film good work.You will also find many 35mm professional film editors, also let the film reel out onto the floor or box
That was interesting, because I'm about to start a similar process. Nice job explaining!
excellent tip you are sharing here with the box receiving the film!!! I am going to do that from now on. It is true that the tension created by the other reel can mess up the film or the process.
I need to pick one of these up.
Great video. Just wondering if the film scanning software has any provision for dust and scratch removal just as scanner software for slides and negatives often has.
That can all be done in post production.
That's pretty cool, although beyond the scope what I can do. But you have a lot of experience with video work so it just comes naturally.
Nice. Having the equipment is the way to get things like slides, film, be it super 8 or 8mm or even 16mm scanned to digital and done well. I've transferred slides to a digital camera by projecting the slides onto a wall in a dark windowless bathroom then processed in Photoshop, worked pretty well I might add.
Love your jog wheel device, a throwback to the days of tape, but this time, you are manipulating the file on your computer as if it were tape. I make do with the keyboard, but having one of those for editing would be even better.
As one that edits my own videos, I understand all that is needed to do it successfully, and if I don't know a technique, I can root on the interqwebs for how to and then go from there.
The shuttle pro2 controller is the biggest time saving device that I have on my edit system. I've had a system like this for years. My original one had a trackball with the job ring and buttons for things like cut forward reverse delete ripple delete I had five buttons and basically combined the operation of the mouse and edit control in one device it was pretty good. I think I had the buttons programmed cut ripple delete reverse stop forward left mouse button right mouse button and then the track wheel of course move the mouse around and the jog control move the video at various speeds from one frame all the way to fast forward or rewind. After many years of service the trackball started to stick at a specific point and it was driving me crazy plus the rubber coating started to get all sticky like all that rubber coating does. So I replaced it with the shuttle pro2. Biggest Time saver because it has 15 programmable buttons that can do everything. I have mine set to cut, dissolve, save, ripple delete all the top row. Second row is previous edit reverse stop forward next edit. But I have an undo and redo on either side of the jog wheel. Below the jog ring time line zoom and delete. What I am editing my left hand sits on the controller my right hand the mouse. I don't touch the keyboard except if I have to enter a title or enter a file to be saved such as when the project is complete. It doesn't seem like much because everything can be done by the keyboard but it saves so much time. Even if it only saved a minute or two it would be worthwhile but it saves much more time than that. I would say that this probably cuts down the editing Time by at least 25% believe it or not. On the keyboard for example to edit out a segment and then dissolve between the two cut pieces. You play it to your cut point press space to stop hit your C left click scroll up to your endpoint left click again then highlight the segment you want to remove right click scroll down to ripple delete and left click. Then you have to hit v, move mouse to transitions and drag your cross dissolve down and drop it on the transition point. Will shuttle pro as you're playing tape and you can do this in real time while it's running or stop it tap the track split key go to the end of the edit and tap track split again stop. With mouse click on the segment you wish to delete hit ripple delete key on shuttle pro hit previous edit key then hit dissolve key on shuttle pro. 5 key clicks and 1 mouse click vs at least 5 key presses and a bunch more most movements scrubbing the timeline to find the edit point plus more mouse movements around the screen dragging transitions down. I still have to use the mouse if I want to do a wipe or some other type of transition but for the most common the cross dissolve it's there one key. Doesn't seem like much but it really cuts down on editing and just stream lines the entire operation. They're not cheap but the time savings is worth it.
In this video, you adjust the aspect ratio to 125:85, or 1.47. However, 8mm aspect ratio is 1.33. How do you account for this discrepancy? And FYI, this video was a lifesaver for me because I use Premiere Pro. Saved me a lot of time and effort. Thank you!!
I use my wolverine scanner as a door stop to the room where my MovieStuff scanner is setup, works great the door stays open and I don't destroy peoples priceless memories..
Never have damaged a single film in this one. I have received damaged film, plenty of it, but this hasn't damaged any.
To call them "priceless" is quite humorous considering that 9 out of 10 clients, when they pick up their film and transfer ask if I can dispose of their old films for them. I tell them just to put them in the garbage of they don't want to hang onto them.
Same with video tapes. Customers PAY ME to bulk erase and dispose of their old camcorder and VHS tapes after they are transferred to digital. So priceless, I wouldn't go that far. This is also why I have never invested in a more expensive system, as I would have to raise my price, and nobody wants to pay that. There is a local company that has a real high end system, but his rates are 1.00 per foot. at .20 a foot people here are having to "think about" if they want to spend that money, or just point a projector at the wall and record it on their phone.
Thats about how much people care about their old home movies.
@@12voltvids Thats good to know. I personnally have owned two of those machines and both damaged my film so I would never use it on a customers. Sorry you feel like film isn't a precious medium or the the memories or stories have no meaning to your custmoers that is sad. As far as quality you get what you pay for. Good luck I wish you well.
@@RickGreenPhoto I don't use the take up spool. I let the film drop off the desk into a box. No scratches no damage. People just don't care about old film. I have been transferring 8mm and super 8 since the mid 80s. Have done hundreds of thousands of feet. Still have my old projector and 3ccd camera for it. Transfered 4 3 retail photo shops back in the day. Don't see nearly as much now because most people in the area had it done by me over the past 35 years.
@@12voltvids Its all good I understand. I shoot my own 8mm and 16mm and don't want to damage it. So the moviestuff made sense to me.
@@RickGreenPhoto nobody shoots film for home use today. The film might get in was not shot generally by the people that are bringing it to me it was their grandparents film or even their parents film that they found in a box somewhere. It hasn't been stored correctly most of it is damaged or broken or moldy. They just want to see what's on it. Most recent film I got fella brought it to me it was his mother's first wedding. So as he put it other than his mother he won't recognize anybody in the film but did it just to preserve some pictures of her when she was young. Again never have damaged film.
What a handy machine and your corrections gets the best out of it.
Premiere looks ideal.
Shame the take up is buggered, but the film bin works :-D
That take up should of lasted a lifetime, its not under great stress.
Actually it is. It is under constant drag on the clutch.
Maybe a stupid question. But why export at 30 FPS instead of 16? Wouldn't it be more flexible to let the player choose how to handle it, how to insert duplicate frames, etc, based on the kind of display output it's connected to?
If the file is only going to be viewed on computer then it could be output in any frame rate. If for example the file is intended to be run on media players or burned into a DVD it needs to compliant with tv standard which is 30 frames. For a 16 frame film it basically repeats each frame twice, for 7 frames and then the 8th once.
You don't notice this when viewing but it makes everything comparable and future proof.
@@12voltvids I guess it's my perfectionist archivist/preservationist mind overthinking.
Makes sense that for "regular" customers the main goal is maximum compatibility and ease us use instead of fidelity to the original content. And under that mindset I suppose that 30 FPS makes a lot of sense.
@@jeremiefaucher-goulet3365 people want to play the files in things like smart TVs. Most will not accept non standard frame rates. They support 24, 30 and 60.
@@12voltvids Do you actually do 30, or 29.97? (Just curious -- I know it's pointless pedantry in most cases.)
@@nickwallette6201 29.97
So your model has the 720p camera? Also, how does it work for Super 8 sound film? Thanks!
No mine has the 1080 camera. The frame size is 1440x1080. The cheaper one is 960x720
It doesn't scan sound. It only scans 2 frames per second. Sound has to be taken off seperately with projector and synced with the film. This adds extra time which I charge extra to do. I did one of my father in-laws talkies and it is on my channel. Called mr gullible. It was an 8mm sound.
@@12voltvids My grandfather had a Bell & Howell 8 mm setup with sound, but it recorded the soundtrack onto an audio cassette tape machine that was special made to sync to the picture. I have no idea the mechanism that was used to achieve this. Ever seen one of those?
@@zulumax1 nope. Only sound projectors i have seen and own is 8mm and super 8 magnetic sound and 16mm with both magnetic and oprical sound.
@@zulumax1 I've got an ITT Schaub-Lorenz cassetterecorder 740AV. The film camera sends a bleep every 4 frames via a "synvoton" to an extra track on the cassetterecorder. The bleeps were used to sync with a slide or film projector.
Where do you advertise for your tape to dvd or digital service
Facebook, Craigslist and wore of mouth. That's the best form of advertising.
Wooh that was quick, importing video onto your PC using Adobe Premier. I assume your PC is very fast possibly using a quad-core or 8 core CPU.
It's an old PC. At least 10 years old. I7 quad core, 16 gigs ram and a ton of hard drive space. About 7tb of drive storage on board and dockable drive. It's fast. I run no av software as it is an offline machine specifically built as an editor.
@@12voltvids That's good you don't run any anti-virus software as it's an offline system there is no need, the software suite you use must be pretty good.
@@speedyboishan87 av bogs everything down. Even on my connected machine I don't click links.
Why do you use 30fps in your premiere project? The film is 24.
No 8mm film is not 24. It is 16. Super 8 silent was 18. Sound could be 18 or 24. 16 is 24 as is 35.
I use 30 to maintain comparability with all devices. Last thing i need to do is hand someone a transfer and they can't play it on their equipment and I end up doing it again for free.
@@12voltvids ok, understandable. But I can still play most unusual framerates on my devices. I've had no bad experience with that.
@@filip.zivkovic try putting them on a DVD and playing on a DVD player and see how fast your luck runs our. Not talking about "your" devices. I am talking compatabiliry with all devices. If i hand something to a client that won't play on one of their devices I am doing it again for free. So why not just format in a universal format that all devices can read no matter what their age. That's one of the things that ticks me off with some of the new cameras. They use h.265 as opposed to h.264. my editing software doesn't support 265 so I have to convert before i can use it. Their answer is upgrade. Easier said than done.
@@filip.zivkovic Your computer, phone etc, yes, but not your TV, nor it's DVD/Blue Ray player will accept just about anything, it MUST be of certain frame rates, in N.A. it's 24, 30, or 60 frames, no more, no less, and likely H.264 for the codec/container, again, no more, no less
To give you an example, I have a JVC head unit in my car that I bought new in 2012 that only accepts MP3 and WAV files, no more, no less. For MP3, it's all qualities, but for WAV, it's ONLY 16/44.1, no more, no less.
As Dave says, Your equipment is not everyone else's, so he has to use a format/frame rate that is common to ALL.
@@johnhpalmer6098 sure but I've had good experience with hardware players
Being colourblind "colour correction" is almost an impossibility. I have to trust my film or DSLR to get it right. Most of the time when shooting film I use B&W films to avoid this.
When I find I have to do it, god I hate colour correction. Even if I know there is a problem I wont be able to resolve it beyond randomly adjusting things. Can take days.
When I was in the business we had a competitor that operated also in the area and I swear to God this guy was color blind because I'd get TVs and then he'd worked on and they were so far off and a cuss word always say yeah the guy from the mobile TV clinic was out working on the TV and the color was never right after he worked on it. I'd fix it properly. I swear to God the guy was color blind
What I want to know is why on earth they don't allow access to the raw data. You transcode last, not first.
It's a consumer device. Load the film and play the file. Not everyone wants to dick around rendering files. Many will crop it on the machine and play the files directly.
How do you do the sound
Sound film is a 2 pass procedure. Scan the pictures and then run it again through a sound projector to record the sound then sync it.
No sound track on super 8 film, in the majority of cases. For those with a sound track I would guess he simply plays it in a projector, and records a sound track off the film, and then adds it in in the edit after running it through a noise reduction filter.
@@SeanBZA exactly. Very few films have sound. 1 out of 50. Why. Because sound film cost about double what silent. A 3 minute silent back in the 70s about 20 with processing a sound closer to 40.
@@12voltvids can you do a video on it when you get the time
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What syncing sound? Sure but I don't know when i will get a sound film. Last time i had one was about 2 years ago.
had only bad experience with that type of.film scanner (from Wolverine, auvisio or Reflecta Branded...) ... the Transport is not working exact enough, so the Picture will flip vertical... really anoying
.. its because the cheap mechanism... and another problem: The "Bad and unsharp-noisy" picture
Ive upgraded to a telecine-modified Bauer T502 Projector! with a special telecine lens and a sync modified motorcontroller = BETTER RESULTS!
You need to buy a tripod to hold the camera where you need to film.
Knowing Dave, he likely has several as this is a business for him.
I have tripods that cost more than my camera. Is 3000.00 enough for you?
I have a camera jib mount in the shop. I just didn't feel like dragging it out. I did drag it out for the shots of the screen.
The big draw back for me is that this can't copy the sound from the film. Most of my Super8 films have sound.
None of the frame scanners can. You have to really spend big bucks to get that. One of my clients has such a system. He charges 100 per 50 foot reel to scan. I charge 20 as it is alot of work.
@@12voltvids Yeah, the equipment for a proper transfer is an awesome bit of kit. But so expensive to buy and maintain. :)
@@frankowalker4662 5000 just for the film gate and you need one for every size of film you plan to do. 8mm super 8, 9.5, 16, super 16, 19, 35 ect. He has most of them but doesn't do much home film archiving. 50.00 to transfer a 3 minute home 8mm silent film is far above what 99.9% would pay. He does work for governments, museums, broadcasters ect. Tax payers money in many cases. I have a hard time getting 10 for a 50 foot reel. Obviously these days I don't get huge orders that often because once the cost of having me transfer someone's movies exceeds the cost of buying a wolverine themselves they're going to opt to buy the equipment and do it themselves which is fine because it's very time consuming. This little 100 ft real for example took an hour to scan and another 30 minutes to process. So for me I made 20 bucks to do this job. Back in the days when I was doing film transfer work for the two local photo Labs I got $0.10 a foot, about half of what I get now but then a 100 ft roll of film only took 6 minutes to record onto a VHS tape or a DVD now a 6-minute roll film takes an hour and a half. Love the trolls that will comment about the machine and in their opinion lack of quality and compare it to a $200,000 machine or even a $10,000 machine. Of course it's not going to look as good as a 10,000 machine but how much would I have to charge to pay off a $10,000 machine? There's just not that much business in the home movie scanning work anymore. Most people had it done back in the 80s and '90s when I was swamped with work. I was so busy when the photo Labs were around I would go to them everyday and pick up a half a dozen orders from each and do that 6 days a week. I was making more doing video transfer work that I was fixing televisions working full time and I was paid well when I was in the repair business. Even just shooting video was good money. corporate and weddings paid well. Not anymore, everybody's got a good camera in their phone and editing software is cheap no money in that. Just like TV repair the bottom fell out in the early 2000s. I went from getting bookings to shoot videos where I was being paid between 2 and 3 Grand two couples asking if I could show up with a crew and shoot their wedding for 500 bucks. My response was I won't even turn my camera on for 500 bucks good luck with Uncle Bob and his fancy new camera. That brings out another funny story that I should talk about. Funny young woman that called me about 20 years ago to get a price on shooting their wedding tried to lowball me I said nope sorry not interested. After her wedding day came and went I got a call from her she was all panicked she had a relative shoot her wedding with his new video camera and the idiot held the camera in portrait mode. You know he had the little screen flipped up and turn the camera sideways for head to toe shop from the aisle. of course when you play that on a TV everything's sideways and she was most upset she came to me and asked me to edit it and fix it and I said no problem and I charged her as much as I would have charged her to go and shoot the entire wedding to fix the mess of shots some that were shot in portrait some that were shot in landscape. then she comes back and asks how come all the portrait shots have black bars on the side? Yes she was blonde!
@@12voltvids I think the wolverine does a realy good job. As for the wonam with the relative filming sideways. LOL. There is nothing more to say about that.
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I use the tagline from the fram oil filter so that one. You can pay me now or you can pay me later. Yes I got a good laugh out of that and even with all the processing I could do it's still look like crap. I didn't want to put my name anywhere near that I didn't want anyone to know that I had touched it. Shaky camera work heads cut off way too much headroom it was just a mess. At the reception have to speech is were cut off, he would stop tape to get another shot so the continuity of the speech was lost. First dance he started recording halfway through the song. When he walked around interviewing guess some of the things that people said where they were drunk we're not really that flattering for either of them and I had to make the decision to either allow them to stay in or cut them out. I called her and I said do you want all of these comments or do you want me to cut out the ones that are best flattering and she was like no we want all the guest comments in so I left them in and then she comes back after the fact it says why did you leave that one in I can't let my mother see this tape. Is she that's the type of thing that if I had been shooting a wedding and some guests made some comment that was very off color they would have never seen it because I would have cut it and no one would have even known that it was said but she had seen the tape prior to bringing it to me and told me to leave all the comments in so I did what I was told and then I got shit for it after the fact and she wanted it redone so I said sure that'll be another 500 bucks to re-edit it. As I said she was blonde well then so is he I called it my Barbie and Ken doll wedding experience. I mean their ceremony was very nice and had I shot it for them with my crew they would have had something that would have been proud to show to everyone but they spent all their money on a high end photographer and had no money left for a videographer. Personally I think the video record is equally important if not more did the still photos. they paid something like $5,000 for a stills photographer and had no budget to do video. They could have hired a stills photographer for two grand and hired me for two grand and had two quality products. There were a few local photographers that I did a lot of work with we worked very well together because we had done literally hundreds of weddings together the fact we even had a package deal I think it was five grand for a photo and video package. But in this case I didn't get the gig to do the shoot and here I was now try to clean up the mess. I wanted to say it wasn't watchable it certainly was once I was done but because it was such a mess the raw footage it was it something that I would ever admit to have touching it was that far below my standard of quality.
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