I loved this video so much, my number 1 issue with people that do these benchmark videos is that they never explain that real world usage and the testing environments are very different things in a way that the average user can relate to. When gaming I always have some music playing or a video going on my 2nd screen, when gaming on my I7 6700k I often had game stutters and slow downs, since getting a 3600 Ryzen chip every single game runs really smooth, my fps is not any higher, but there are no longer stutters or anything. You really summed up my own findings in your video and it is great to finally have a reviewer explaining these issues.
@Calamity Absolutely, netflix going on my 2nd monitor, division 2 running on my main. With the 6700k it stuttered often, with the 3600 not a single stutter (with many chrome tabs open too). I am only detailing my experience, yours may be different.
@Calamity I am happy for you :) perhaps your gfx card is inferior or your gfx settings are set lower, perhaps you play less intensive games. Either way, for how I use my PC the way I do I personally witnessed a big improvement moving from a 6700k to a 3600. My apologies if this is not what you want to hear.
Your latest videos are really interesting .... It seems that you have chosen quality over quantity and ... I thank you for that ;-) . Many thanks for your videos Mr Tech ! ... I will greatly appreciate sound dampening on your room by the way .
@@Grymlocked $330 USD but with a stock cooler that is not enough for the i7 9700, so it's a minimum of $ 30 USD for a decent cooler. In addition to not being unlocked for overclock and having only 8 cores and 8 threads while the Ryzen 7 3700X is unlocked for overclock and has 8 cores and 16 threads with a cooler more than decent.
Don’t worry about the naysayers with short attention spans. If your thorough reviews are best served with long form videos that’s great. There are plenty of short reviews out there if that’s what they want. But they’ll never get the depth displayed here.
not really naysayers, or even short attention spans. Not everyone looks at computing and computers as a hobby unto itself. Some USE computers and are more interested in using them as opposed to building tweaking etc etc. I lived in a building and a buddy upstairs was more into building and tweaking a computer than actually using it as a computer.
@@rubenmartins1912 I got 3900x and x570 on launch day. I had nothing but problems. My expensive ram had to be down clocked to remain stable(3 different ram kits tested), it was running far to hot(3 different coolers tested), was not even nearly reaching its single core boost speed, and the most annoying thing was random restarts even while at idle, i could go on with this list trust me. So after 2 weeks of many hours a day troubleshooting i returned it and got i9 9900k z390 its been rock solid 5ghz all core while actually running cooler, and i get the memory speed i paid for. I wanted to go AMD this time but stability is a thing and a quick google search shows i wasn't alone in my findings. (its funny that all reviewers got sent stable systems) I can put up with launch problems but there is a limit. Thats my experience, just saying.
@J M 2500k -> 9900k is a big jump! 10th gen Intel aren't even on the horizon, but I'm guessing Ryzen will drive prices down over time. Might be worth watching to try to pick one up.
When i jumped from i5 6600k to i9 9900k it felt like a massive swap, now its normal I think COD/BF games are perfect to do your tests in. These games are popular and can run on both potatoes and high end gamepc's at completely different levels
thanks for you help i have a i5 9th gen processor and trying to upgrade and now i am going to get i9 9th gen but with the i5 i am able to live stream and play games and record at the same time thanks for this video you get a thumbs up from me
21:43 - I'm so glad you brought this up. This is the reason why some reviews are starting to show the 1% and 0.1% lows because these values show the difference between stuttering and smooth game play.
I really liked your slowing down the benches and going into detail. There are surface/quick overviews all over the web/RUclips. The even slightly deeper details are very hard to find
I upgraded my CPU to R7 3700x from i5 6500. It's huge improvement in games, especially as you said games runs a lot more smooth, and no stuttering :) Also amazing chip for editing and multi tasking !
I went for the i9-9900 non-K since it's widely available now. 4.7GHz boost on all cores, much lower TDP, $60 less and no need for a $100 extra cooler? Hell yeah!
Joxxxx You will see almost no improvement overclocking an i9 that is already at 4.7 GHz on all cores. Not worth the extra power draw. Plus there is no guarantee a K version will clock higher the advertised boost
i gotta say, as a person who only recently built their first pc and has recently been upgrading it, the point you made about the higher specs being better for multitasking truly helped me for understanding the use for someone like me that still only has 1 monitor as well as the points regarding content creation. This video has been incredibly informative and im so glad i stumbled on this 👍
I bought my 3900X from a guy who just never used it. He offered me the stock cooler but I didn’t take it because it’s completely pointless on that chip, since it will run way too hot without running at its all core boost
I bought the i7 9700K for $200. Games are just starting to use 6 and sometimes 8 cores. Soon my i7 9700K will be the next quad core in a few years lol. Bought it because it was cheap and it overclock to 5GHz on all cores easy on air also the single core performance is amazing.
I got an I7 9700k for 370$ when was 440$. In a promo. So happy with it, can run PSD illustrator, 3d max at the same time so epic. With chrome and 30 tabs included. Also play any game that I want. Pd my video card is AMD. Both brands are good. We must thanks and be happy, a gaming pc now cost 600$. usd. Long live to PC
On the subject of multiplayer games testing: I think if you could articulate the perceived difference in frame pacing during the voiceover and back it up (at least a little) with 1% & 0.1% low performance that would be great. Maybe a frametime graph could portray the difference accurately? Idk. All I know is that I trust your opinion and I think your personal experience, although subjective, would add value to the discussion.
Yep, opinions are placebo prone. People will tell the "new" product performs better than the old one even if it's exactly the same, we are all subject to this bias. That's why data is important.
Awaiting the review of 3700x & 3900x vs i9 9900k. Too bad those ryzen cpus couldn't have been tested in this video to have a complete package for 2019. None the less, stellar and detailed review from the Gentleman...as always. Enjoyed every second.
You talked about how smooth or good a game felt even at lower fps... this is more important then most people know and if you can find a way to show that off in a reviews for cpu's and gpu it will help make your channel stand out more i think. The little line graph helps with this 0.1% lows also help, maybe a graph showing off frame times if thats even possible. anyways great stuff going to be a very interesting next few years tech.
You have convinced me to buy either a Ryzen 3900x or i9 9900k due to the fact that my i7 4790k is only 4 cores and 8 threads. So for a smoother gameplay I need more cores and threads just to play Assassin Greed Odyssey. Now I will wait on the verdict of the upcoming video on Ryzen's processors.
If you do OC testing you have to do proper RAM OC for the Ryzen 3000 CPU's. Getting RAM to run at 1:1 3800MHz CL 15-15-15-21 with FCLK 1900 with manual OC (as shown in the LinusTechTips video) should easily push the high end Ryzen 3000 CPU's up to or even over the i9-9900K stock performance. If one goes all high end with all the OC, that should be something to consider for the Ryzen 3000 series. In case you haven't seen the LTT video, here it is with the timeline where you can see the RAM values used: ruclips.net/video/iHJ16hD4ysk/видео.htmlm4s I find it very interesting to see what you can tickle out of the Ryzen 3000 in CPU limit situations when you go all hardcore OC on RAM.
Love the new format. I would like to see a review of massive multiplayer online games to see real world performance in something that is relative to me and probably a lot of others. I find your vids to be very informative even though they are long. Good in-depth reviews.
So glad I bought the 3700x. I am always watching RUclips vids or researching stuff in the background while playing games. CPU hardly ever hits 50% on any game. Got it for the longevity, I only wanna upgrade my graphics card in the future, not my whole system.
very nice format. opened my eyes to the GPU usage not maxed out on Ryzen2 , did not notice that on many more other content creators benchmarks. works as intended, TY!!
I like detailed informative videos like this one. Also like the videos where you show how smooth the gaming experience is with graphics cards and cpus.
You keep it real tech... this will always be my go to channel for information above all else. F*** amd and intel for not sponsoring you. We need people like you that won’t sell out for money. Otherwise we will be right back in the same boat ... not knowing what to buy. ✊🏼
you did all these in this video for the sake of knowledge and gathering info, we all respect that and appreciate the priceless things you did here, your effort and your time. TY
Don't care who whines, lengthy vids that explain everything are 150% better than 15 - 10min and less vids that don't explain but show very few details. Would 10/10 watch your videos even if they were 2hrs+ period..
I only noticed the length of the video cause you drew attention to it, 41:10 . This btw is the 3rd vid in a row I've watched from Tech Deals now it's time to walk the dog. As for content style, I prefer in-depth looks at games and explanations then snippets from a bunch of games. Great work, clear concise pronunciation, no BS gimmicks .
Fantastic format. Really enjoying your videos as a new subscriber. Definitely appreciated the deeper dive into the benchmarks. Way more valuable than just numbers on a screen.
I appreciate the time and effort you put into your videos👍 But my I7-9700k should be fine for the next 2-3 years, especially for singleplayer games at 1440p&4K. I'm planning to upgrade to a 10th or 11th gen i7 anyway :)
It actually is, especially when you have an 55 inch 4k hdr tv ;) But it depends on the game ofc, wouldn't recommend it for competitive multiplayer e.g.
Many games don't have proper ultra wide support btw. I would absolutely love to game on a 35 inch 1440p/100 screen, but black side borders or stretched images are a deal breaker for me.
And many don't, especially older games, but hey to each their own, not gonna start a debate about what resolution is better for gaming, it's subjective anyway.
I had to change my 3700X with a MSI 570 A PRO MB because I was having a lot of issues (temps, voltage, frozen OS and also a lot of noise with the stock cooler). I have changed to an i9 9900K with a Gigabyte Z390 and I am in love with it! PS: Good work mate! Greetings from Spain
it will depend ENTIRELY on your case. if you have dust filter, if they are removable, how they are removable, how your fans are configured, what size they are, how they are mounted to your case, what type of CPU cooler etc. Typically if you have dust filters, you remove them, rinse them with water, let dry out and replace. That is the reason for dust filters, is to filter out dust :) If you don't? Buy compressed air, take out as many fans as you can and blow the dust/dirt/grime off. Use a lint free microfiber cloth if some of the dust is really stuck on there. also use the air on the inside where the motherboard and components are. 2 very important tips: 1. DO NOT get the can very close, as the air coming out of the canister can get very very cold. 2. Make sure your system is powered off AND unplugged.
thats a fucking shit build. vrm would be ridiculous on a320 and some motherboards are not even compatible with 3600. only 2 memory slots with some not even having a m.2. you wont be able to overclock the cpu and even the precision boost wouldnt work at much as the motherboard would be so hot so no boosting would work. the 2080ti would also be bottlenecked heavily and a aftermarket 5700xt would make alot more sense. shit build bro delete ur comment or edit that 'perfect build'. Final note, if ur buying a 1000+ dollar, cheaping out so much isn't a good idea and you would ultimately regret it in the future as you will probably have to pay for those compromises.
@@Imperious123 He didn't overclock the ram on the ryzen side, also 3700x can go 4.3ghz or even 4.4ghz on all cores gaining a huge boost against 9700k, you have no idea what you're talking about.
@@Imperious123 You really don't get it, have you ever overclocked a cpu in your life? Ryzen has much more headroom in overclocking than you think, and the most headroom is in its memory because CCX's talk to each other at the speed of ram. 3200mhz ram is not good enough to fully utilize that speed, I know It's much easier on Intel side for noobs like you that have to increase only the core voltage, if you even know what that is.
Went with 3700X from Ivy Bridge i5-3330 after 6-7 years and I was crying from happiness after seeing my 3700X's gaming performance in all those games where the i5-3330 let me down. EDIT: I'm NOT self-advertising, but if anyone's interested and are also on old platforms like Ivy Bridge or Sandy Bridge. Check out the latest vid on my channel where I compare 3700X and 3330 perf with benchmarks.
@@purecrisis8618 i5-3330 is good for esports. But 1050 Ti might not be able to deliver high frame-rates like 120-144fps if you're looking for that. But they're still an awesome combo even for AAA games at 30-50fps with good visual quality.
So much work to produce this cool vid and in the end your comparison grid lacks clear labels to render it obvious which processor is on which frame. Cheers and thanks!
Duke of Lorraine because intel’s 10nm is far from mature. When intel used tick-tock cycles, it usually better to buy the “refreshed” as they’re more optimized.
Running modern warfare 2 I stutter and had allot of problems with i5 7600 3.5ghz and had a 1060 gtx. Ive upgraded rtx 2070s and soon will change the processor tnx to ur video. I had first gen i7 and i think this was still better then my i5 when multi-tasking. I want to see some live tests on mw2 if you have time. Great video
EXCELLENT Video and very infromative for my future buying decision. Would have loved to see "The Division 2" in comparison as well because I am trying to gauge for the upcoming Cyberpunk 2077 and I know how demanding that game will be. Thanks again.
Your shortcut option into a long (but detailed and awesome review and comparison made me subscribe). I didn’t have time at the moment I watched and just the ability to get what I wanted now and then come back later to see things I missed is so convenient. Keep the good work up sir! Thank you.
it's about price to performance.. if budget didn't matter everybody in the world would be using a 9900k, but budget is the main determinant in hardware purchases. Most people aren't willing to pay 50% more for 5% more performance
@@rumham7631 when you show me a 3900x for 499 like its suppose to be...but as of right now their 800 dollars 300 dollars more than the 9900k.....thats Amds fault.
@@samwall2108 guess you are not familiar with supply and demand.. AMD launched their CPU's at $500, people bought all of them and raised the price to resell on Ebay. The release was only a month ago, you are acting like AMD is manipulating the market when in reality they just didn't make enough 3900x chips to meet demand. If Walmart runs out of PS4's do you start saying Sony is scamming people? I don't get what your post was about anyway, because it has nothing at all to do with my original comment. 99% of the market can't afford a 3900x, and that's what I was saying. Very few people are buying the top-of-the-line model, the vast majority buy entry level chips, and that's who this video is made for.
This video changed my perspective to benchmarks. Very educational and amazing future-proof video to turn back to from time to time. Taking many mental notes here, definitely helped me choose my new CPU. Thank you.
I like the format of these videos. I am by no means a beginner in the world of computers, but it still helps to get an explanation on how the cores and threads assist
Man i thought you where 1 of the 100000 channels .But i did test this stuff myself except for the ryzen.I use nice liquid cooling on my 9900k and rtx 2080.And what you say is so treu.Many other tech site's talk rubbish about this .For gaming and temp's etc. You say excactley what i discoverd myself.3 rad 120, 3 rad 140.with the best fan's out there.Noctua push pull.(9900k 5.0Ghz rtx 2080) with a nice overclock to ram en core.So many credit's to you and all your hour's of testing.(sorry for my english)
I really like the way you explain your testing methods because i'm done reading comments from people saying "why test at 1080p with 2080ti" . Thankyou.
Great video, i want to ask. Intel has recently released the i7 9700 non k at 320$ which i think is a good value because it boosts all the way up to 4.7ghz. I already have a noctua cooler. The 3700x is 350$ in my country. Which is the better buy for futureproof gaming?
This is one of a kind video, I haven't seen any comparison like that- u have put so much work and effort and I think that it shows us the true quality in it, ty for that vid and I'm waiting for more
Love the channel. Tech Deals helped me through my first PC build over 3 years ago, and now you are helping me through the latest build! Thank you for the quality information.
I'm surprised how well the noctua NH-D15 cooled the 9900k at 5GHz. If you can I'd love to see some CPU cooler comparisons with Noctua tower coolers (NH-D15, NH-D15S, NH-U14S), and air coolers from other brands along with water coolers. There are only like 4 videos on RUclips comparing air and AIO liquid coolers and they use old CPUs that don't get too hot so all of the coolers show about the same temperature. A real test would be on the 9900k @ 5GHz. Thanks for reading my comment ♥️
Sit down get comfortable with a mug of tea or coffee, and enjoy Tech Deals videos. I love the content and the way you pass over the information, long videos for me is awesome. 😊
Great Video, much appreciated! Here is what I would like to see in a future video: 1. What system should you buy if you are a casual gamer / content creator (Lightroom, twice a year adobe premiere elements etc.) 2 What should you buy for creating a HTPC for your living room (what cases are there, does a display make sense, what keyboard and mouse etc.) for gaming on your couch.
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I loved this video so much, my number 1 issue with people that do these benchmark videos is that they never explain that real world usage and the testing environments are very different things in a way that the average user can relate to. When gaming I always have some music playing or a video going on my 2nd screen, when gaming on my I7 6700k I often had game stutters and slow downs, since getting a 3600 Ryzen chip every single game runs really smooth, my fps is not any higher, but there are no longer stutters or anything. You really summed up my own findings in your video and it is great to finally have a reviewer explaining these issues.
@Calamity Absolutely, netflix going on my 2nd monitor, division 2 running on my main. With the 6700k it stuttered often, with the 3600 not a single stutter (with many chrome tabs open too). I am only detailing my experience, yours may be different.
@Calamity I am happy for you :) perhaps your gfx card is inferior or your gfx settings are set lower, perhaps you play less intensive games. Either way, for how I use my PC the way I do I personally witnessed a big improvement moving from a 6700k to a 3600. My apologies if this is not what you want to hear.
I7 6700k is only 4 cores/8 threads. It's enough for gaming, but gaming + something else is sometimes too much.
@Calamity it is true at least for i5, not sure about i7
@Calamity You have to remember that you're comparing new technology to 6 year old technology.
God damn that hair looks fabulous, extra 15% performance right there!
It will only get better when he upgrade the RAM and add some RGB. 😁😊
@@little_boy_blue dont forget the liquid cooler.
that is stock mode guys. wait until you see overclock mode.
Haha, I wasn’t looking at his hair till I read your comment, now I am, if anything it reminds me of trump.
I just wanna lick a comb and deliver it north-south as the crow flies through that world class perm.
40mins of CPU Goodness. I am not in a need for a new CPU, but i love those kind of tech review. Great work.
Respect Intel, respect AMD , respect This Guy !
Why nobody is sending this comment right on top?! That should be our mantra
@@ArletteTatsuno Thanks Budd 😁
Warm Soft Kitty what major issues? Im just curious brother
@@harryann1069 me too i wanna know what major issues people are facing
Well said.
Can't wait for the Ryzen video. I appreciate your work sir.
@Warm Soft Kitty probably because they went broke overpaying for a less feature rich and more security flawed Intel system lol
@@banjamin8586 don't worry about wasting your time on this ignorant guy, I've seen him fanboying before. He just likes to ignore the facts.
@Warm Soft Kitty Next build for me will be on the 2020 Zen
@Warm Soft Kitty Zen 3 and 4 are 2020 release right?
It's ok to watch 40 mnts video, because i come to yiur channel for deep and comprehensive review
Your latest videos are really interesting .... It seems that you have chosen quality over quantity and ... I thank you for that ;-) . Many thanks for your videos Mr Tech ! ... I will greatly appreciate sound dampening on your room by the way .
That, and I've been sick :(
@@TechDeals Get well soon mate .... We need you healthy ;-)
this call marking magic.
Agreed, and some warmer lighting and non-white paint. Content is high quality for sure.
Well, not chosen. There is data to review and that's what we have now.
Went with the Ryzen 7 3700X and very happy with Performance. Benchmarks same level at i7-9700 and cost about $125 less.
Ryzen 7 3700X and i7-9700 both retail for $330 knucklehead
9700 for 455$? You're joking lol, for that price you could find 9900k or 9900KF
Yeah, the 9700 pricing is weird right now, it's 410 on Amazon for instance.
AND you get double the threads!
@@Grymlocked $330 USD but with a stock cooler that is not enough for the i7 9700, so it's a minimum of $ 30 USD for a decent cooler. In addition to not being unlocked for overclock and having only 8 cores and 8 threads while the Ryzen 7 3700X is unlocked for overclock and has 8 cores and 16 threads with a cooler more than decent.
Don’t worry about the naysayers with short attention spans. If your thorough reviews are best served with long form videos that’s great. There are plenty of short reviews out there if that’s what they want. But they’ll never get the depth displayed here.
not really naysayers, or even short attention spans. Not everyone looks at computing and computers as a hobby unto itself. Some USE computers and are more interested in using them as opposed to building tweaking etc etc.
I lived in a building and a buddy upstairs was more into building and tweaking a computer than actually using it as a computer.
22:00 imo the most important thing to take from this video ("Smoother" he says, wich is better than being "Faster)
Thanks for the video, great job 💯
100% agree with you here, I actually have the i5 6600k so I'll be upgrading very soon to the R5 3600 (budget)
Your videos are really helpful and informative, keep up the great work!
The 15 minute mark is very interesting. Most of the other tech channels don't show this but that is why you, TD, are the man.
Built a new rig with the i9-9900k upgraded from an i5-4690k
Wow, what an experience!
Super happy with it.
That's a monster upgrade!
I did this same thing 3 weeks ago! I love pulling up the task manager and seeing 16 logical cores!
@J M i want to upgrade my 2500k
but atm I am still stuck on my choice between 3900x or i9 9900k
only for gaming
@@rubenmartins1912 I got 3900x and x570 on launch day. I had nothing but problems. My expensive ram had to be down clocked to remain stable(3 different ram kits tested), it was running far to hot(3 different coolers tested), was not even nearly reaching its single core boost speed, and the most annoying thing was random restarts even while at idle, i could go on with this list trust me. So after 2 weeks of many hours a day troubleshooting i returned it and got i9 9900k z390 its been rock solid 5ghz all core while actually running cooler, and i get the memory speed i paid for. I wanted to go AMD this time but stability is a thing and a quick google search shows i wasn't alone in my findings. (its funny that all reviewers got sent stable systems) I can put up with launch problems but there is a limit. Thats my experience, just saying.
@J M 2500k -> 9900k is a big jump! 10th gen Intel aren't even on the horizon, but I'm guessing Ryzen will drive prices down over time. Might be worth watching to try to pick one up.
When i jumped from i5 6600k to i9 9900k it felt like a massive swap, now its normal
I think COD/BF games are perfect to do your tests in. These games are popular and can run on both potatoes and high end gamepc's at completely different levels
Companies should just drop their new products at this guy's door with a note "Please include us in your tests"
thanks for you help i have a i5 9th gen processor and trying to upgrade and now i am going to get i9 9th gen but with the i5 i am able to live stream and play games and record at the same time thanks for this video you get a thumbs up from me
I DONT HAVE TO WATCH OTHER VIDEOS.
YOUR VIDEOS ARE RAW AND VERY SIMPLE TO UNDERSTAND FOR NOOBS AND PROS.
21:43 - I'm so glad you brought this up.
This is the reason why some reviews are starting to show the 1% and 0.1% lows because these values show the difference between stuttering and smooth game play.
I really liked your slowing down the benches and going into detail. There are surface/quick overviews all over the web/RUclips. The even slightly deeper details are very hard to find
I upgraded my CPU to R7 3700x from i5 6500. It's huge improvement in games, especially as you said games runs a lot more smooth, and no stuttering :)
Also amazing chip for editing and multi tasking !
I5 6500 is as fast as i3 9100
@@doctorletsplay no
Hafo yes it is
@@Evan-ve5yj no
@@knownnuisance7512 Okay, my mistake. i5 6500 is 20% slower than i3 9100.
I went for the i9-9900 non-K since it's widely available now. 4.7GHz boost on all cores, much lower TDP, $60 less and no need for a $100 extra cooler? Hell yeah!
It's quite sad to buy a i9 and not overclock it though...
Joxxxx You will see almost no improvement overclocking an i9 that is already at 4.7 GHz on all cores. Not worth the extra power draw. Plus there is no guarantee a K version will clock higher the advertised boost
i gotta say, as a person who only recently built their first pc and has recently been upgrading it, the point you made about the higher specs being better for multitasking truly helped me for understanding the use for someone like me that still only has 1 monitor as well as the points regarding content creation. This video has been incredibly informative and im so glad i stumbled on this 👍
I disagree respectfully the wraith stealth and spire are NOT good enough to sustain 4.04.2 ghz. Your Chanel is excellent
I bought my 3900X from a guy who just never used it. He offered me the stock cooler but I didn’t take it because it’s completely pointless on that chip, since it will run way too hot without running at its all core boost
2 basic questions answered. 1) Which CPU is for me NOW, 2) Which CPUs are future proof for the next years. This is why I love this guy :)
Serious man... you are THE BEST!!! Keep this wonderful work!
I bought the i7 9700K for $200. Games are just starting to use 6 and sometimes 8 cores. Soon my i7 9700K will be the next quad core in a few years lol. Bought it because it was cheap and it overclock to 5GHz on all cores easy on air also the single core performance is amazing.
I got an I7 9700k for 370$ when was 440$. In a promo. So happy with it, can run PSD illustrator, 3d max at the same time so epic. With chrome and 30 tabs included.
Also play any game that I want. Pd my video card is AMD. Both brands are good. We must thanks and be happy, a gaming pc now cost 600$. usd. Long live to PC
On the subject of multiplayer games testing:
I think if you could articulate the perceived difference in frame pacing during the voiceover and back it up (at least a little) with 1% & 0.1% low performance that would be great. Maybe a frametime graph could portray the difference accurately? Idk. All I know is that I trust your opinion and I think your personal experience, although subjective, would add value to the discussion.
Yep, opinions are placebo prone. People will tell the "new" product performs better than the old one even if it's exactly the same, we are all subject to this bias. That's why data is important.
Awaiting the review of 3700x & 3900x vs i9 9900k. Too bad those ryzen cpus couldn't have been tested in this video to have a complete package for 2019. None the less, stellar and detailed review from the Gentleman...as always. Enjoyed every second.
You talked about how smooth or good a game felt even at lower fps... this is more important then most people know and if you can find a way to show that off in a reviews for cpu's and gpu it will help make your channel stand out more i think. The little line graph helps with this 0.1% lows also help, maybe a graph showing off frame times if thats even possible. anyways great stuff going to be a very interesting next few years tech.
Always time for a Tech Deals video!
You have convinced me to buy either a Ryzen 3900x or i9 9900k due to the fact that my i7 4790k is only 4 cores and 8 threads. So for a smoother gameplay I need more cores and threads just to play Assassin Greed Odyssey. Now I will wait on the verdict of the upcoming video on Ryzen's processors.
They have already done several
You deserve more subscribers. Excellent detail and good information. Thank you for committing the time to your videos.
Being a first time builder, it is so hard to know which choice to go with.
Videos like this help, but ultimately, it’s still daunting none the less!
If you do OC testing you have to do proper RAM OC for the Ryzen 3000 CPU's.
Getting RAM to run at 1:1 3800MHz CL 15-15-15-21 with FCLK 1900 with manual OC (as shown in the LinusTechTips video) should easily push the high end Ryzen 3000 CPU's up to or even over the i9-9900K stock performance.
If one goes all high end with all the OC, that should be something to consider for the Ryzen 3000 series.
In case you haven't seen the LTT video, here it is with the timeline where you can see the RAM values used:
ruclips.net/video/iHJ16hD4ysk/видео.htmlm4s
I find it very interesting to see what you can tickle out of the Ryzen 3000 in CPU limit situations when you go all hardcore OC on RAM.
Love the new format. An in depth look at a few benchmarks and then the rest of them in less detail comes across very nicely
Definitely want multiplayer coverage. BF5. The COD Modern Warfare for sure when it comes out towards 2019 year end.
Love the new format. I would like to see a review of massive multiplayer online games to see real world performance in something that is relative to me and probably a lot of others. I find your vids to be very informative even though they are long. Good in-depth reviews.
The only person hating on your youtube video run time is the youtube algorithm. Actual tech deal fans love these kind of videos.
So glad I bought the 3700x. I am always watching RUclips vids or researching stuff in the background while playing games. CPU hardly ever hits 50% on any game. Got it for the longevity, I only wanna upgrade my graphics card in the future, not my whole system.
Well done!
I got the 3600 👏🏼
Welp next yr you going to need a i9
Dolo i9 for extra 10fps? 🖐🏼Nope thanks.
@@TMG.608 when the new gens system comes out you going to need it
very nice format. opened my eyes to the GPU usage not maxed out on Ryzen2 , did not notice that on many more other content creators benchmarks. works as intended, TY!!
I won a i9 at my work. Picking it up tomorrow :-) Have a nice weekend gents
If that's true, then congrats!
Get decent Z390 motherboard with like 150$ AIO so you could overclock it to 5ghz. gl
Lucky you ... Enjoy the beast !!!
What a lucky guy, congratulations!
Ladies too!
And you continue with the July trend of excellent videos. Feeling confident about your August videos as well. Great Job!
Which CPU should I buy? I bought a Ryzen 7 3700X. For cooling, I have a custom open loop with 2 360mm radiators.
You asked and answered yourself wtf
@@breezy2323 no, they quoted the video title and answered.
@@dazzlerweb confused af 😂
2 x 360 is just wasting energy for a 65w part, you don't even need a 240 for that cpu...if you had dual v64, then just about right
The way you’re slowing down the video playback to 10% is a great addition. Keep doing that!!
very informative videos everytime I watch one. thanks!
I like detailed informative videos like this one. Also like the videos where you show how smooth the gaming experience is with graphics cards and cpus.
You keep it real tech... this will always be my go to channel for information above all else. F*** amd and intel for not sponsoring you. We need people like you that won’t sell out for money. Otherwise we will be right back in the same boat ... not knowing what to buy. ✊🏼
This video is 1000% better than the other benchmark videos I've been watching. FANTASTIC JOB!
About damn time someone upped the tech game around here, keep it up! liked, subscribed & belled
Gallisc - Thanks so much for the sub, welcome to the Deal Nation!
you did all these in this video for the sake of knowledge and gathering info, we all respect that and appreciate the priceless things you did here, your effort and your time.
TY
Don't care who whines, lengthy vids that explain everything are 150% better than 15 - 10min and less vids that don't explain but show very few details. Would 10/10 watch your videos even if they were 2hrs+ period..
This was excellent especially the "Slow mo" comparison . .. . valuable insight. Cheers.
I bought the i7 8700k a month ago and I love it!
I only noticed the length of the video cause you drew attention to it, 41:10 . This btw is the 3rd vid in a row I've watched from Tech Deals now it's time to walk the dog. As for content style, I prefer in-depth looks at games and explanations then snippets from a bunch of games. Great work, clear concise pronunciation, no BS gimmicks .
Fantastic format. Really enjoying your videos as a new subscriber. Definitely appreciated the deeper dive into the benchmarks. Way more valuable than just numbers on a screen.
Wow, so glad this video popped up, your explanations and comparisons game me a lot to think about before I go into my first build in eight years.
I appreciate the time and effort you put into your videos👍
But my I7-9700k should be fine for the next 2-3 years, especially for singleplayer games at 1440p&4K.
I'm planning to upgrade to a 10th or 11th gen i7 anyway :)
7 years
It actually is, especially when you have an 55 inch 4k hdr tv ;)
But it depends on the game ofc, wouldn't recommend it for competitive multiplayer e.g.
Many games don't have proper ultra wide support btw.
I would absolutely love to game on a 35 inch 1440p/100 screen, but black side borders or stretched images are a deal breaker for me.
And many don't, especially older games,
but hey to each their own, not gonna start a debate about what resolution is better for gaming, it's subjective anyway.
Like I already said, it's subjective...
I had to change my 3700X with a MSI 570 A PRO MB because I was having a lot of issues (temps, voltage, frozen OS and also a lot of noise with the stock cooler). I have changed to an i9 9900K with a Gigabyte Z390 and I am in love with it!
PS: Good work mate! Greetings from Spain
So, the best Intel processor is the AMD Ryzen 3600...
Well..you diodnt get the point of the video.
There is no best CPU
Waldherz FeuerClan it all depends which graphics card you have
best at maintaining low fps in games
One of the best things in 2019 was discover your channel man
So much pragmatic information, 10/10 value
Great benchs and thank you
This guy is my favourite person I just love his personality
I honsetly did not expect to watch the whole thing, but I did. Great video, and I loved how you explained the advantages of more cores/threads.
Hi Mr Tech, can you make a video "How to clean a computer?" air compressor, or blower....
it will depend ENTIRELY on your case. if you have dust filter, if they are removable, how they are removable, how your fans are configured, what size they are, how they are mounted to your case, what type of CPU cooler etc. Typically if you have dust filters, you remove them, rinse them with water, let dry out and replace. That is the reason for dust filters, is to filter out dust :)
If you don't?
Buy compressed air, take out as many fans as you can and blow the dust/dirt/grime off. Use a lint free microfiber cloth if some of the dust is really stuck on there. also use the air on the inside where the motherboard and components are. 2 very important tips:
1. DO NOT get the can very close, as the air coming out of the canister can get very very cold.
2. Make sure your system is powered off AND unplugged.
Check out techyes he's an Australian guy who does refurbished machines and new ones but he's got his little techniques he calls techyes love
@@michaelpenezich5063 TechYes is fun to watch but some of his solutions are a bit odd. I will not ever spray brake cleaner on a mainboard, no way.
I appreciate the slow and in depth way you explain various items. Gets through my thick skull.
TD: Which Intel CPU should you buy?
I: Don't.
good for you
@@HassanMohamoud-lg2xw Good, don't.
Love the fact you included Blender bench marking. Every other vid I watch concentrates solely on gaming benchmarks.
Perfect meme PC Build:
-2080Ti
-A320
-R5 3600
-Other cheap stuff
2080ti is waste of money how you call it perfect , 2080 super is more reasonable priced..
Giorgi 2080ti is better priced than it used to at least
thats a fucking shit build. vrm would be ridiculous on a320 and some motherboards are not even compatible with 3600. only 2 memory slots with some not even having a m.2. you wont be able to overclock the cpu and even the precision boost wouldnt work at much as the motherboard would be so hot so no boosting would work. the 2080ti would also be bottlenecked heavily and a aftermarket 5700xt would make alot more sense. shit build bro delete ur comment or edit that 'perfect build'. Final note, if ur buying a 1000+ dollar, cheaping out so much isn't a good idea and you would ultimately regret it in the future as you will probably have to pay for those compromises.
What a silly build ... No punt intended .
Spoiler alert: it was a joke
Ok hands down. Watched at least 30 different videos this week trying to make a decision. You are hands down the best. Don't change.
None, buy Ryzen.
Came here to write the same.
No thanks. I prefer the superior cpu.
@@Imperious123 He didn't overclock the ram on the ryzen side, also 3700x can go 4.3ghz or even 4.4ghz on all cores gaining a huge boost against 9700k, you have no idea what you're talking about.
@@thepirate4095 Yeah. I have no idea what I'm talking about. The more fps on intel must be a mirage.
@@Imperious123 You really don't get it, have you ever overclocked a cpu in your life? Ryzen has much more headroom in overclocking than you think, and the most headroom is in its memory because CCX's talk to each other at the speed of ram. 3200mhz ram is not good enough to fully utilize that speed, I know It's much easier on Intel side for noobs like you that have to increase only the core voltage, if you even know what that is.
Went with 3700X from Ivy Bridge i5-3330 after 6-7 years and I was crying from happiness after seeing my 3700X's gaming performance in all those games where the i5-3330 let me down.
EDIT: I'm NOT self-advertising, but if anyone's interested and are also on old platforms like Ivy Bridge or Sandy Bridge. Check out the latest vid on my channel where I compare 3700X and 3330 perf with benchmarks.
i got a i5 3330 with 1050ti just layin around. is it good to do esports?
@@purecrisis8618 i5-3330 is good for esports. But 1050 Ti might not be able to deliver high frame-rates like 120-144fps if you're looking for that. But they're still an awesome combo even for AAA games at 30-50fps with good visual quality.
I should buy AMD only 😁 so I watch this video for support my favorite channel but waiting ryzen video
Same lol
So much work to produce this cool vid and in the end your comparison grid lacks clear labels to render it obvious which processor is on which frame. Cheers and thanks!
Why would you go for the blues now ? Wait for their 10th gen if you don't go team red
Duke of Lorraine because intel’s 10nm is far from mature. When intel used tick-tock cycles, it usually better to buy the “refreshed” as they’re more optimized.
Running modern warfare 2 I stutter and had allot of problems with i5 7600 3.5ghz and had a 1060 gtx. Ive upgraded rtx 2070s and soon will change the processor tnx to ur video. I had first gen i7 and i think this was still better then my i5 when multi-tasking. I want to see some live tests on mw2 if you have time. Great video
Answer for the title: buy Ryzen instead
Love that you're actually pointing out the cpu utilization. Most videos gloss over that.
Answer:
Ryzen
EXCELLENT Video and very infromative for my future buying decision. Would have loved to see "The Division 2" in comparison as well because I am trying to gauge for the upcoming Cyberpunk 2077 and I know how demanding that game will be. Thanks again.
Easy answer: None of them go Ryzen all day.
Gonna trigger the fanbois
needabettername Except you two sound like AMD fan boys 👀
@@Tallnerdyguy I think the fanbois are triggered already.
@@SignedNaz triggered? Lol
@@wysetech2000 indeed
Your shortcut option into a long (but detailed and awesome review and comparison made me subscribe). I didn’t have time at the moment I watched and just the ability to get what I wanted now and then come back later to see things I missed is so convenient. Keep the good work up sir! Thank you.
ryzen is not a better gaming cpu
it's about price to performance.. if budget didn't matter everybody in the world would be using a 9900k, but budget is the main determinant in hardware purchases. Most people aren't willing to pay 50% more for 5% more performance
Few fps doesn't matter unless u r competing every week against 1000s of gamers.
Facts
@@rumham7631 when you show me a 3900x for 499 like its suppose to be...but as of right now their 800 dollars 300 dollars more than the 9900k.....thats Amds fault.
@@samwall2108 guess you are not familiar with supply and demand.. AMD launched their CPU's at $500, people bought all of them and raised the price to resell on Ebay. The release was only a month ago, you are acting like AMD is manipulating the market when in reality they just didn't make enough 3900x chips to meet demand.
If Walmart runs out of PS4's do you start saying Sony is scamming people? I don't get what your post was about anyway, because it has nothing at all to do with my original comment. 99% of the market can't afford a 3900x, and that's what I was saying. Very few people are buying the top-of-the-line model, the vast majority buy entry level chips, and that's who this video is made for.
Such an underrated PC hardware enthusiast channel. Much respect to this man!
This video changed my perspective to benchmarks. Very educational and amazing future-proof video to turn back to from time to time. Taking many mental notes here, definitely helped me choose my new CPU. Thank you.
I like the format of these videos. I am by no means a beginner in the world of computers, but it still helps to get an explanation on how the cores and threads assist
What about the i9 9900 (non K)? Do you think this is a worthy upgrade to the 9700 K (especially in terms of having more threads)?
great thoughtful videos, tackles real world problems rather than most that focus on fascination.
Building my second PC, your videos are always super helpful!
Man i thought you where 1 of the 100000 channels .But i did test this stuff myself except for the ryzen.I use nice liquid cooling on my 9900k and rtx 2080.And what you say is so treu.Many other tech site's talk rubbish about this .For gaming and temp's etc.
You say excactley what i discoverd myself.3 rad 120, 3 rad 140.with the best fan's out there.Noctua push pull.(9900k 5.0Ghz rtx 2080) with a nice overclock to ram en core.So many credit's to you and all your hour's of testing.(sorry for my english)
Thank you so much for making these long videos. So so much!
I really like the way you explain your testing methods because i'm done reading comments from people saying "why test at 1080p with 2080ti" . Thankyou.
Great video, i want to ask. Intel has recently released the i7 9700 non k at 320$ which i think is a good value because it boosts all the way up to 4.7ghz. I already have a noctua cooler. The 3700x is 350$ in my country. Which is the better buy for futureproof gaming?
we need more doses of techdeals, can we find an editor for this poor guy already?? we've waited sooooo long for your videos man...!
This is one of a kind video, I haven't seen any comparison like that- u have put so much work and effort and I think that it shows us the true quality in it, ty for that vid and I'm waiting for more
Love the channel. Tech Deals helped me through my first PC build over 3 years ago, and now you are helping me through the latest build! Thank you for the quality information.
I'm surprised how well the noctua NH-D15 cooled the 9900k at 5GHz. If you can I'd love to see some CPU cooler comparisons with Noctua tower coolers (NH-D15, NH-D15S, NH-U14S), and air coolers from other brands along with water coolers. There are only like 4 videos on RUclips comparing air and AIO liquid coolers and they use old CPUs that don't get too hot so all of the coolers show about the same temperature. A real test would be on the 9900k @ 5GHz. Thanks for reading my comment ♥️
Sit down get comfortable with a mug of tea or coffee, and enjoy Tech Deals videos. I love the content and the way you pass over the information, long videos for me is awesome. 😊
Great Video, much appreciated!
Here is what I would like to see in a future video:
1. What system should you buy if you are a casual gamer / content creator (Lightroom, twice a year adobe premiere elements etc.)
2 What should you buy for creating a HTPC for your living room (what cases are there, does a display make sense, what keyboard and mouse etc.) for gaming on your couch.
It was a long video. But I saw with pleasure all 41 minutes. Very good job.