That was interesting, when browsing motherboards I find it often difficult to figure out the differences in features between models, even from the same manufacturer.
Hey, Phil's in the house! Welcome, love your channel! Rogue said hi from a fellow Aussie! ruclips.net/user/philscomputerlab ^ Phil's RUclips channel, he has some awesome stuff there... Regarding feature differences... isn't that the truth! Do we really need 17 different models of motherboard from one company? Sometimes the only difference is WiFi, or the sound chip is Realtek 892 vs 887, or Realtek LAN vs Intel LAN. Minor difference to make a new board.
@@TechDeals didn't we see what 30+ boards from one of the companies, all using X570? It's stupid (and costs more too) keep the amount down, like a cheap barebones model, a good midrange and a bells n whistles board. I am also one of those that don't get the point of wireless on a "gamer" board, we have WIRED for best latency/stability and it is a "waste of money" aka more expensive board without giving anything. Use Realtek LAN on the cheapo board, then Intel LAN on the midrange and top range board and so on and for gods sake put proper VRM heatsinks on, they could do it in the 90's with nice fins and they look nice too, now they are alu vedges covered in plastic (we are finally beginning to see proper heatsinks again
@@LiLBitsDK The X570 customer being very different to the mainstream Ryzen customer, they have money and will spend, so it is worth the speculation on motherboards because if you win that battle you will get a name for yourself across all Ryzen 3000 boards and that goodwill will last a while. So they are realising lots of boards to see what sticks. It will calm down and some of those boards won't be around for long. With the cheaper boards it is different as those customers may not upgrade as they don't need to because even a R1 board will supportR3 in many cases. That said there isn't much SFF/ITX for the R3, probably because of the VPN thing.
@@TechDeals Hey I was wondering if anyone could help me out here, I was thing of buying a new board to upgrade from my 2013 build. (I5 3470 and z68 gd80) To a modern one, I was browsing for new motherboards when I came with 4 potential solutions. 1. Was a z370 killer sli from asrock, at an incredible 103 dollar price brand new. 2. Was an msi z370-a pro at 115$ brand new aswell. 3. Was an asrock z370 pro4 at 119$ 4.And last but not least, within my 130$ budget for a motherboard, was the asus prime p-II at 124$ Of course there was the msi tomahawk at 140, but I don´t think I will be getting that one. So can anyone share a bit of advice and suggest me what would be the best option you would consider? Thanks in advance. If there is a particularely good motherboard out there that you would reccomend within 140-150$ price point im all open, but only if you feels like it is really good.
@Dindü Nüffin I've had Intel almost all my life except for when Athlon X64 was better. I always go for the best, and it looks like this time its the 3950x. Enjoy "flexing" your i5 non-k while it gets slower and slower with every patch for spectre/meltdown. Only an idiot would buy intel at this point.
I've always found intel boards to be confusing. Your very enlightening video has thrown a lot of light on what their qualities are and their relative values. Great job.
I have the Gigabyte Z390 Gaming X with an i7-9700K and EVGA RTX 2080 XC. With 16gb DDR4 ram and two Samsung 970 SSDs. I have a 1440p 144hz curved 27in MSI monitor and it's glorious. All I do is gaming, both E-Sports and AAA - no content creation, streaming, or program creation.
Thank you for being so clear and zero BS. Your videos-more than anyone else's-have helped me pinpoint what parts to get for my first build! Subscribed.
awesome video. I bought the i5-9600k with the slightly cheaper Gigabyte Z390 UD motherboard, and that's completely fine by me. I did some research after buying those componends and there are quite a lot of videos saying that the 9600k is not the best CPU to buy. but after some research, the 9600k is still 2,8% faster on average than the i7-8700k in the usual benchmark games as of right now, and it's a lot cheaper! so i'm quite happy for someone finally confirming that 9600k + Z390 is a solid build :)
I don't get it either. It's madness to buy a machine now. In a month we'll have Ryzen 3000 availability and a huge number of reviews so you can make an informed decision. If AMD's claims pan out, you'll be able to get i7-9900K performance for i5 money. Only a fool would buy now.
@@Invid72 Tech covered it in one of his videos: There is always something new around the corner. You can wait for Ryzen 3000, but in 6 months, there's another better thing so why not wait for that instead too? So Tech said, the best time to buy is always when you're ready.
nah, its pays more to promote old shit from problems plagued and overpriced Intel than to cover actually new hardware that pushes the performance envelope and will lead the future with FINALLY pushing more multithreading into the mainstream ...
Back to the excellent,basic no-nonsense,honest videos that built the channel.Havent built a Intel in a while (since haswell),maybe chuck a i3 budget system together for an elderly relative.
2 weeks before Zen2 launch you go and waste money on Intel ... bravo ... 2 weeks later you could have gotten same or better performance for less money aand without constantly diminishing performance thanks to Intels security flaws that lose performance whenever Microsoft rolls out "fixes" ... at least you are not affected by Zombieload, so there is at least that ...
This is by far the best video you made this month. Excellent video and explanation. Thanks for your knowledge. It's the main reason I support your channel. Keep doing a great job!
the Intel B365 chipset also exist, but it loses USB 3.1 in favor of other H270 carry overs (B365 uses 22nm fab for the chipset) like hardware raid, a feature the B360/B250 chipsets lacked.
Great video and very informative. I just built a computer using an i7-9700K, Gigabyte Z390 Ultra motherboard, 32gb of 3200mhz ram, and a 1tb m.2 SSD. Just wish I could have afforded an RTX series nVidia card after all that but had to settled on a water cooled GTX 1070.
I built my machine using the i9 9900K and ASRock Taichi in a Phanteks Enthoo Pro M case with a Zotac RTX 2060 SUPER 8GB Mini running from a Samsung 970 EVO Plus M.2 NVMe 500GB SSD. I found your reviews and videos very helpful in my purchasing choices, I have a machine that I really enjoy using!
Great Content! Can not wait to see this comparison when made for the Ryzen 300-500 series boards. Also I appreciate a throwback to the standard "Tech featured" video. You are the important thing in this video. I prefer the content with YOU in it. Now stop paying for that video content and just shelf-it buddy :) Your fans want YOU!
Best hardware video on YT this far in 2019. Nobody can explain complex hardware choices like you. Your level of research you could have written a book about it. Motherboards are rocket science-confusing for somebody that updates their rig once every 5 years. I'll recommend this to everybody I know. My dealer are pushing 8gen boards that needs a BIOS update with an accepted CPU. Thanks for saving my ass.
I got a Z370M D3H because went with the locked i7 8700... it was a great cheaper pairing, the 8700 is yet another 50 bucks cheaper than the unlocked 8700K but thanks to the Z370M chipset I can BCLK it to a 4.45ghz all cores locked and also overclock memory, all with an inexpensive Hyper 212X. Bottom line is that for R5 2600 build pricing I got the i7 8700 at it's most optimal setting and it's enough gaming CPU to *fully* drive my GTX 1080 Ti therefore I feel it was the best value all around.
I just upgraded someone from a z270 board with i5 7400 and a gtx 1060 3gb. He bought a 9900K, EVGA 2080TI Dark, Coolermaster Masterliquid Maker 92, 32GB G.Skill 3600mhz CL19, gigabyte z390 gaming X. I swapped out cpu/motherboard/ram/video card, and booted up to his existing windows 10 install, activated itself with absolutely zero fuss, just clicked activate windows. GOOD 2 GO I was hoping he's pick up an Aorus Master, but I don't think he really cares and he does not like RGB (either do I). Seems like the i9-9900K was fine and the RAM clocked to 3600 just fine. Tech, I think if you are buying an Intel, its very wise to jump right into the Z390 at this point. Maybe if you bought an i3 or something you might want less, but honestly if you are buying i3 or i5 you are buying the wrong CPU and should be buying Ryzen. ALSO, 9900 non-k is out in the retail channel, thoughts?
I'm only 2 mins in, and I am liking this already. About to build my first PC in years, we're talking 486 DX2-66 here (and that was for Doom lol) - Anyways about to get back into some building and damnnnn things have changed, so thanks for the vid :) and subbed
ASRock Z370 Extreme4 and K6 are great budget Z370 boards. For Z390, I'd go with either Aorus Elite, Aorus Pro or Aorus Ultra, depending on your budget. They have the same (decent) VRM, the difference is in connectors and bells & whistles. Z390 Aorus Pro WiFi is what I consider a sweetspot, a good, well rounded board that's not too expensive. If you're into SFF like me, ASRock has the best ITX boards for intel (Z series, at least). Both Z370 Fatal1ty Gaming-ITX/ac and Z390 Phantom Gaming-ITX/ac are the best Intel ITX boards right now. Gigabyte's and MSI's Z390 ITX boards are very good too. I would skip Asus, as they're simply overpriced while offering nothing worth the price difference over competition, unless you aim for the top tier boards. Their highest tier mobos are still great, even if expensive.
Recently purchased the Gigabyte Aorus Pro Wifi with a CPU just to get started, a Gold Intel G5400 - after about a week I noticed frequent brief hang up, delays and hesitations and that wasnt even trying to over clock it. So i found a 9600K Core I5 at a decent price and grabbed it. We'll see how much difference i can notice in performance after it arrives and i get it installed, I also decided to grab a few more 120 mm fans for additional insurance and cooling.
I told you I was going to build my PC from your videos. Last night the operating system was installed no issues... everything was recognized and from what I can tell in great working order.. Now I’d like to find some software for monitoring the cpu, fans etc and a good frames monitor For some reason the overlay for GeForce FPS is not in my settings Thank you for the content... I literally built my pc following you!
rex Anderson yes sir. At least I believe so, the GeForce app shows the latest update on. I will check again to be sure.. this is the part I was more concerned with than the actual build. I am happy the thing started up with no issues that I have seen yet...
@@HardHeadMilitary i use AMD currently but used to have an Nvidia card awhile ago. i really cant remember exactly how to get to that part. i know its in the geforce control panel somewhere though. sorry i couldnt help more.
I have the Asus cross hairs Hero VII and have noticed I can't do much with it. I also have 2 setups with Asus and Gigabyte boards on I 7 8700K witch the AMD can't hold a candle to on anything. Now I'm wondering if it has anything to do with the board.
NH-D15 cooler FTW. As long as your case isn't too puny to handle its massive dual towers. Best cooler on the market. Second is the 212 Evo. You can cool an incredible amount of CPUs with that thing, it's the bang for your buck king.
STILL WITH A 68OOK AND A GTX 1080 FTW CARD. ROG PG348Q AT 3440 X 1400 RESOLUTION. To be honest, this setup still runs games at high frame rates, playes VR titles without any problems and looks great in ultra wide format. Most of the pc games are stuck in a rut these days. maybe when the consoles change to the next generation i might upgrade. as of now, 4k and super high frame rates are the only reason to upgrade but i dont think thats worth it yet. content creation took a hit with the intel vulnerability but still, not enough to care just yet. but its coming.
I'm finding the reason I'm considering upgrading isn't directly CPU performance related but more because my hardware is showing it's age, especially feature wise. My i5 4670 and GTX 1060 can still play new releases at 1080p on medium or high settings but as games get larger in size, even games loaded from my SATA SSD can have significant load times and my only options to reduce that time are to switch to NVMe, which my motherboard doesn't support and because it's getting old, now would be a good time to upgrade, while the hardware I have is still worth something on the used market.
I currently own a 9100f on a h310 paired with a 1650s and I'm very happy with its 1080p gaming performance. However when the time comes to upgrade, will the PCIe limitation of the h310 affect the performance of a higher end GPU? I don't really care about the features of the better chipset as long as the CPU and GPU don't lose performance. EDIT: Great video btw. Subscribed!
I got an i5-8400 and the Asrock B360M Pro4 before the release of 9th gen. Next week, I'll be building a pc for my friends with an i7-9700k and the Gigabyte Z390 AUROS Elite
The point is.. Higher price = more features Imma go with lower features then, but I would like to ask some questions.. is it okay to get H310 chipsets to run in i5 9400F ? Or do you still suggest H370 chipsets to fit in the i5 9400F ?
I've had a i7 8700 on a H370m AsRock board for over a year now. Good little set up. And by the Heaven benchmark scores for i7 8700's with a GTX1070 my PC is actually scoring better than they were. Not sure what the ram they were using, or if they were able to overclock all cores, or even which board. But not disappointed with the 2666mhz ram...
Hey Tech!, my system i'm running now is an i5 8600k w/ a noctua cooler, Gigabit Aorus Gaming 5 Z370, 16 gig Viper ram @2666, evga rtx 2080, evga 750 gold psu, and win 10. and running 2 m.2 Playing Div 2 on high settings 120fps, hope this system keeps me good for the new cod modern warfare/ borderlands and cyberpunk!
It was mentioned in this video how RAM could only go up to 2666mhz on a non OC motherboard. Let me add a little known fact. You need a 6-core processor to get 2666mhz on a non OC motherboard. I installed a 2666mhz stick of RAM on a 4-core i3-8100 and B360 motherboard. RAM could only go up to 2400mhz after turning XMP profile. Same thing happened when I installed a 2666mhz stick of RAM on a 4-Core Ryzen 2200g and A320M motherboard.
My current build is a 5820K with a Gigabyte X99 SLI, because of the various boards that I could afford for the platform, it was one of the few where I noticed that the available PCI-E lanes weren't suddenly disappearing if I needed to use a 28-lane cpu; far too many for the X99 platform, regardless of price, did this... like they basically expected people to only ever choose a 40-lane chip or something. I wasn't expecting to upgrade, but I'm approaching this from the inverse. My former main pc, which was on a 680i sli motherboard, had died, and because I had lifetime warranty, I was issued a replacement of a z370 Classified K. Unfortunately, life kind of got in the way, and I've not even been able to get a CPU yet for it. I'm more or less wondering, what kind of CPU to go with for it... because off the top, I could either go with an 8700K, and entertain doing the de-lid and a direct die mount to get better thermals, or try and scrimp to get a 9900K, and just find a shop locally (if not the same place) to help me update the bios for the board to accept the new CPU. TD, if you were in my situation, for the money, what would you do and why?
While Gigabyte's H boards do not have all the myriad of detailed overclocking options their Z boards do, they can be decently overclocked! The included, Gigabyte Easy Tune software, can run your CPU at least 0.6 GHz faster than stock. Intel eXtreme Tuning Utility, can do even more, if your cooling solution is adequate - massive compared to the stock cooling solution.
You are by far one of the best computer component reviewer on RUclips! I love that you are realistic and state both the pros and cons and give recommendations based on use cases and budgets. This video really helped me as a first time builder. I think it would be interesting to compare the value of building a system that will require and upgrade in 6 years to a system that will need update in 3 years and see what is the most cost efficient in the long run. Perhaps it is better to go for the high end combo of i9 9900K and RTX 2080Ti compared to going with lower end options and having to replace them twice in the same period? If you also bring the topic of resource scarcity for rare earth metals that are so very needed to build computer parts it could also make more sense from an environmental perspecitve to build a system that lasts a long time compared to a system that needs to be upgraded relativiely soon.
Hi Tech Deals! thank you for this video, highly informative, as always. This gave me a better insight when it came to boards and processors, however; I'm planning to build a PC from scratch and I want to keep my budget within $1500-1700 range. I'll use this PC mainly for gaming in 1080p and 144 fps, and I'll only max out my cash for directly gaming-related parts. I'm thinking of Buying a B360M motherboard paired with an i7-8700(not planning to overclock), along with an RTX 2070 super. (I currently use an i5-4570 on an Asus B85M-G with a GTX 1060) Should I still upgrade my motherboard to the Z series even if I'm not planning to overclock? My perspective on mobos is that I just need 4 USB slots, minimum. I want this gaming setup to last me at least 5-7 years without any issue. Thank you very much for your help.
I know that DDR5 is coming out pretty soon, but I hear that it's going to be kinda expensive. I'm hoping to build a new pc in September 2020. I'm still trying to figure out whether to stick with Intel, frankly because I'm a bit more familiar with than AMD, but I'm not against getting Ryzen. I'm not looking for absolute best, but I don't want to go in the wrong direction either. I would love to have some of your assistance in choosing parts. I'm looking at either i7 or Ryzen 7. Thank You!
Get a premium X470 board & start with R7 1700 -- for a long smoothe economical upgrade path . Please don't consider X570 and/or anything less than R7 .
I have a pre-built system with an Asrock H110M-HDV i5-7500 16 GB 2400 Mhz Gigabyte 3x Fan RTX 2060 (upgraded from a Manli GTX 1060) I bought the Gigabyte 3x Fan RTX 2060 based on your recommendation of your RTX 2060 video and it's awesome! (i also used the affiliate link) Now I want to replace the CPU and motherboard. I want to buy a i7-8700k I don't need to buy a new CPU and Mobo immediately, I'll leave myself time until i'm 100% sure what Mobo I want to buy.
An excellent video, still very relevant today. Regarding windows - if you ensure you are logged into windows attached to a Microsoft account, you should be able to move motherboard etc. with no issue - your Win 10 digital subscriber licence will activate windows when you reconnect to your Microsoft account- in your Microsoft account portal be sure to disconnect/delect your old hardware profile. Love your content Jason considering subscribing to your floatplane account.
lol, I just spent more for my ASRock Z390i Phantom ITX ($182.53) to go with the i5-9400F ($155.68). I hope the Phantom will last long enough for an upgrade a few years from now.
I haven't watched the video yet, but I bought the GIGABYTE Z390 AORUS Ultra and have had no issues with it thus far. I really recommend a sound card, like a Sound Blaster Z or something. The onboard sound is just meh and scout mode is godlike when it comes to directional hearing in games like CSGO. Using Gamezero headset paired with everything :). The interface of the mobo was easy enough to get around once I learned a few things, but no issues at all. It easily OC'd my 8700k with no issues to 5 with a 120mm all-in-one water cooler... Built my PC in March by the way, so it is still early in the life of my build
Hey Mr. Deals! If you were to build an SFF gaming PC today in which your cooling was limited, would you go with an i7-8700 on a H370 board, or get an i9-9900K on a Z390 and dial its performance back to where you can keep it cool? Will the i9 yield enough extra oomph in this use case to warrant the extra cost?
Just ordered z390 Master and 9900k with trident rgb B die 3600 32gb.To replace a bad mobo on my 8700k set up. sold the 8700k for $315 shippped. Ate the mobo unless RMA surprises me. Cannot afford any down time. GREAT VIDEOS.
Some of these videos are good for people who might be thinking on building a desktop from the start, but most of tech youtube channels I fallow (Linus, Jay and others) forget that some people already own desktops and don't buy everything at once, like me. :).
What is the harm of using a MSI Z390 Gaming Plus with intel core i9-9900k ?? The cpu is not gonna run at 5.00 GHz speed ?? I've already paired with these two and it runs smooth as piece of cake !! Didn't understand why it wasn't recommended !?!
This guy has so much logic. People overkill with CPU or mobo, need to balance with budget. 9600KF with a B motherboard is great combo now. Cheap stock.
@@bars2585 I went with the MSI MPG Z390M Gaming Edge AC. I like the amount of USB ports it has compared to other boards that were available at the time. Sadly, I got it from Newegg and it looks like they're sold out now. I wish MSI software had more LED lighting options but that's a pretty minimal issue. It's served my needs very well, so I would recommend it if you can find one.
just built a i3-9100 with ASRock B365M April 2020 from newegg for less than $200. Runs cool and World of warcraft great plus 95% of other games listed on "Can you run it" i got the "ASUS TUF Gaming GeForce® GTX 1650 SUPER™ OC Edition 4GB GDDR6" for $160 on amazon and 8 gigs of ram. i had the SSD so the system only cost me about $500 total lots of room to upgrade the CPU to an i9-9900 later when they get around the 200 range.
i had a dell xps 8930 with an 8700k that used their own proprietary z370 (had wifi and bluetooth though because the matx form factor), but i wanted to do a case swap, so i figured i'd upgrade the motherboard -- so i ended up going with an msi mpg z390m gaming. for a small board, this thing is pretty packed! thanks for the videos, they're extremely informative.
Hey Phil, sort of broad question here, but I’m planning on building a new gaming pc in about 2-3 years, and I was wondering what you (or anyone else here who knows) think I should buy for a cpu. I was looking into the i7-9700K, but now I’m not sure after hearing what you said about more threads from the 8700K. One of the games I’m definitely trying to gear my rig towards playing well is the Witcher 3. Also, bc this is a future build, do you think its worth looking into the i9-9900K for my cpu instead? I know the price right now for it is way higher than what I’m willing to pay for a cpu, but do you think it ls price will decrease within the next 3 years to where it might be around the mid-$300 level? I know thats probably wishful thinking but I cant help but wonder. Thanks!
Thank you so much. I’ve been racking my brain lately no have an iBuyPower prebuilt. I’m really getting comfortable. i5 9400f on a B365. I want the i7 9700f but I just didn’t know if I needed a board upgrade or what. Thanks so much again.
Easy, just pick the H370 as the base, the H310/B360 are nothing. The jump from H310 to B360 is not much (except for the PCIE 3.0 chipset support). Plus, H370 and up has RAID support. Most of the Z-series decent entry boards, are decent for non-OC situations.
I really hope the ryzen 5 3600+b450/550 combo is gonna beat the $550 8700k combo in terms of both value and performance 😉, it's either that or the 3700x im gonna buy by year-end
I'm running the 1800x now on an ASRock Taichi x370 now. This motherboard should have no problem running the new 3800x. Personally I'm hoping for compatibility with either the 3900x or the 3950x. I will definitely spend the money on those if my motherboard will support the new r9 series :D Was going to build Threadripper this year, but Zen2 got me on hold LOL.
Leechburg Lights I was surprised at how much they cost it’s nowhere near what I thought they be priced at, thought they’d be really expensive but they aren’t
Right! That is what has got me so intrigued. The VALUE! I am a content creator and use my PC as my vehicle for income. It's not that I deserve better. No, I need to produce. I'm not spending the $$$$ on Intel when AMD will do it for 1/2 :) nope... However... if Intel get's their head out of their ass and drops their pricing, then maybe I'd consider it. So happy with my investment into Ryzen 2 years ago.
That was interesting, when browsing motherboards I find it often difficult to figure out the differences in features between models, even from the same manufacturer.
Hey, Phil's in the house! Welcome, love your channel! Rogue said hi from a fellow Aussie!
ruclips.net/user/philscomputerlab
^ Phil's RUclips channel, he has some awesome stuff there...
Regarding feature differences... isn't that the truth! Do we really need 17 different models of motherboard from one company? Sometimes the only difference is WiFi, or the sound chip is Realtek 892 vs 887, or Realtek LAN vs Intel LAN. Minor difference to make a new board.
@@TechDeals didn't we see what 30+ boards from one of the companies, all using X570? It's stupid (and costs more too) keep the amount down, like a cheap barebones model, a good midrange and a bells n whistles board.
I am also one of those that don't get the point of wireless on a "gamer" board, we have WIRED for best latency/stability and it is a "waste of money" aka more expensive board without giving anything.
Use Realtek LAN on the cheapo board, then Intel LAN on the midrange and top range board and so on and for gods sake put proper VRM heatsinks on, they could do it in the 90's with nice fins and they look nice too, now they are alu vedges covered in plastic (we are finally beginning to see proper heatsinks again
@@LiLBitsDK The X570 customer being very different to the mainstream Ryzen customer, they have money and will spend, so it is worth the speculation on motherboards because if you win that battle you will get a name for yourself across all Ryzen 3000 boards and that goodwill will last a while. So they are realising lots of boards to see what sticks. It will calm down and some of those boards won't be around for long. With the cheaper boards it is different as those customers may not upgrade as they don't need to because even a R1 board will supportR3 in many cases. That said there isn't much SFF/ITX for the R3, probably because of the VPN thing.
@@TechDeals Hi back! Looking forward to your Ryzen 3000 coverage. I watched most of the streams, so I'm eager to hear what reviewers have to say.
@@TechDeals Hey I was wondering if anyone could help me out here, I was thing of buying a new board to upgrade from my 2013 build. (I5 3470 and z68 gd80) To a modern one, I was browsing for new motherboards when I came with 4 potential solutions.
1. Was a z370 killer sli from asrock, at an incredible 103 dollar price brand new.
2. Was an msi z370-a pro at 115$ brand new aswell.
3. Was an asrock z370 pro4 at 119$
4.And last but not least, within my 130$ budget for a motherboard, was the asus prime p-II at 124$
Of course there was the msi tomahawk at 140, but I don´t think I will be getting that one.
So can anyone share a bit of advice and suggest me what would be the best option you would consider? Thanks in advance.
If there is a particularely good motherboard out there that you would reccomend within 140-150$ price point im all open, but only if you feels like it is really good.
Now this is classic techdeal video i subscribed for!
can he do this with Ryzen plz
This guy is a gold, thanks for making everything easier.
I don't know how you still manage to make videos like these, but I am blown away every time.
Should have done this video a year ago, not when ryzen 3000 is about to mop the floor with those specter/meltdow ridden CPU's
I hope Tech does one of these comparing all the AM4 chipsets after Ryzen 3000 drops
@Dindü Nüffin I've had Intel almost all my life except for when Athlon X64 was better. I always go for the best, and it looks like this time its the 3950x. Enjoy "flexing" your i5 non-k while it gets slower and slower with every patch for spectre/meltdown. Only an idiot would buy intel at this point.
I've always found intel boards to be confusing. Your very enlightening video has thrown a lot of light on what their qualities are and their relative values. Great job.
Awesome video. This is the content and format I like to see.
really good content I'm not a pro on pc but after watch this vid really gain a lot of knowledge.👍👍👍
For non Tech People this is a great video. I work for a Computer Manufacture so it good to see someone educating the Masses.
I'll even argue for tech people it's a good video. It's nice to systematically think through the different product tiers and offerings
Yes because we are thick, whereas you work for a 'Computer Manufacture' making you clever.
Just purchased an i5 9400f for $100.00 and I was totally confused on which board to get but you cleared that up nicely, thanks a lot Tech
I have the Gigabyte Z390 Gaming X with an i7-9700K and EVGA RTX 2080 XC. With 16gb DDR4 ram and two Samsung 970 SSDs. I have a 1440p 144hz curved 27in MSI monitor and it's glorious.
All I do is gaming, both E-Sports and AAA - no content creation, streaming, or program creation.
Kenshin0011 can i be your brother?
Expensive choice
21:48
"There is i9 9900k and i9 9900k" lmao
I thought I'm hearing wrong haha
he predicted the ks
Thank you for being so clear and zero BS. Your videos-more than anyone else's-have helped me pinpoint what parts to get for my first build! Subscribed.
I bought the Aorus B360 Gaming Wifi after your review last year. Thank you. I'm very happy with it
A return to form. How refreshing.
*For low budget builders* , this video starts at 15:00 . Thank me later
Thanks
That Denzel meme right now 😎
Yeah, this dude is clearly republican 😆
Sir you make it so simple to understand for some newbies out here. Respect.
awesome video. I bought the i5-9600k with the slightly cheaper Gigabyte Z390 UD motherboard, and that's completely fine by me. I did some research after buying those componends and there are quite a lot of videos saying that the 9600k is not the best CPU to buy. but after some research, the 9600k is still 2,8% faster on average than the i7-8700k in the usual benchmark games as of right now, and it's a lot cheaper! so i'm quite happy for someone finally confirming that 9600k + Z390 is a solid build :)
Short answer. Nothing. Cuz you should buy a b450 or x470 and buy a ryzen.
I don't get it either.
It's madness to buy a machine now. In a month we'll have Ryzen 3000 availability and a huge number of reviews so you can make an informed decision. If AMD's claims pan out, you'll be able to get i7-9900K performance for i5 money. Only a fool would buy now.
@@Invid72 agree completely,I am holding off for the reviews of 3600
and u amd fanboyz will cry again 😂
@@Invid72 Tech covered it in one of his videos: There is always something new around the corner. You can wait for Ryzen 3000, but in 6 months, there's another better thing so why not wait for that instead too? So Tech said, the best time to buy is always when you're ready.
@@jernej.skoflek How? Previous gens have been doing well.
Will you also make a "Which 400 Series Motherboard Should You Buy?" for the new Ryzen 3000 Series ? (B450 and X470)
der.Sensei I was thinking the same thing.
nah, its pays more to promote old shit from problems plagued and overpriced Intel than to cover actually new hardware that pushes the performance envelope and will lead the future with FINALLY pushing more multithreading into the mainstream ...
I discovered your channel two days ago and I am fucking hooked.
This is still helpful to this day. Thanks for making the video
Back to the excellent,basic no-nonsense,honest videos that built the channel.Havent built a Intel in a while (since haswell),maybe chuck a i3 budget system together for an elderly relative.
I find so many great youtubers who can show a great build with benchmarks. You sir are a teacher. I go to your channel to learn about hardware!
Just recently pulled the trigger and went with an i7 8700k with an Asus Z390 motherboard. Waiting for my case to come so I can start building.
2 weeks before Zen2 launch you go and waste money on Intel ... bravo ...
2 weeks later you could have gotten same or better performance for less money aand without constantly diminishing performance thanks to Intels security flaws that lose performance whenever Microsoft rolls out "fixes" ...
at least you are not affected by Zombieload, so there is at least that ...
Asghadd, really a troll here for the Red Team, huh?
This is by far the best video you made this month. Excellent video and explanation. Thanks for your knowledge. It's the main reason I support your channel. Keep doing a great job!
in another life, this guy needs to be a quantum physics professor...I could learn anything from him.
Bro you got more boards than Home Depot 😂
the Intel B365 chipset also exist, but it loses USB 3.1 in favor of other H270 carry overs (B365 uses 22nm fab for the chipset) like hardware raid, a feature the B360/B250 chipsets lacked.
Great video and very informative. I just built a computer using an i7-9700K, Gigabyte Z390 Ultra motherboard, 32gb of 3200mhz ram, and a 1tb m.2 SSD. Just wish I could have afforded an RTX series nVidia card after all that but had to settled on a water cooled GTX 1070.
Gaming with an i9 9900k and a Z390 Gaming M. Not overclocking because I game in 1440p and I have zero issues with this board that I know of.
Watching Teach Deals and playing Overwatch with a morning coffee is the greatest
I built my machine using the i9 9900K and ASRock Taichi in a Phanteks Enthoo Pro M case with a Zotac RTX 2060 SUPER 8GB Mini running from a Samsung 970 EVO Plus M.2 NVMe 500GB SSD. I found your reviews and videos very helpful in my purchasing choices, I have a machine that I really enjoy using!
only 3mins in watching this and thank you for being so clear and straight forward when presenting info to a newbie like me! Great work!
Great Content! Can not wait to see this comparison when made for the Ryzen 300-500 series boards. Also I appreciate a throwback to the standard "Tech featured" video. You are the important thing in this video. I prefer the content with YOU in it. Now stop paying for that video content and just shelf-it buddy :) Your fans want YOU!
This is what I subscribed for. You actually clarify the final doubts that I got after a few other RUclipsr's reviews.
Best hardware video on YT this far in 2019. Nobody can explain complex hardware choices like you. Your level of research you could have written a book about it. Motherboards are rocket science-confusing for somebody that updates their rig once every 5 years. I'll recommend this to everybody I know. My dealer are pushing 8gen boards that needs a BIOS update with an accepted CPU. Thanks for saving my ass.
thank you for this ^^
I got a Z370M D3H because went with the locked i7 8700... it was a great cheaper pairing, the 8700 is yet another 50 bucks cheaper than the unlocked 8700K but thanks to the Z370M chipset I can BCLK it to a 4.45ghz all cores locked and also overclock memory, all with an inexpensive Hyper 212X.
Bottom line is that for R5 2600 build pricing I got the i7 8700 at it's most optimal setting and it's enough gaming CPU to *fully* drive my GTX 1080 Ti therefore I feel it was the best value all around.
Your calculation doesn't add up.
8700: 299€
Hyper 212X: 28€
Z370M D3H: 121€
= 449€
R5 2600: 128€
cooler: boxed
Gigabyte B450 Aorus Elite: 89€
= 217€
I just upgraded someone from a z270 board with i5 7400 and a gtx 1060 3gb. He bought a 9900K, EVGA 2080TI Dark, Coolermaster Masterliquid Maker 92, 32GB G.Skill 3600mhz CL19, gigabyte z390 gaming X. I swapped out cpu/motherboard/ram/video card, and booted up to his existing windows 10 install, activated itself with absolutely zero fuss, just clicked activate windows. GOOD 2 GO
I was hoping he's pick up an Aorus Master, but I don't think he really cares and he does not like RGB (either do I). Seems like the i9-9900K was fine and the RAM clocked to 3600 just fine.
Tech, I think if you are buying an Intel, its very wise to jump right into the Z390 at this point. Maybe if you bought an i3 or something you might want less, but honestly if you are buying i3 or i5 you are buying the wrong CPU and should be buying Ryzen.
ALSO, 9900 non-k is out in the retail channel, thoughts?
Live long you legend for making these kind of videos. ❤️
I'm only 2 mins in, and I am liking this already. About to build my first PC in years, we're talking 486 DX2-66 here (and that was for Doom lol) - Anyways about to get back into some building and damnnnn things have changed, so thanks for the vid :) and subbed
ASRock Z370 Extreme4 and K6 are great budget Z370 boards.
For Z390, I'd go with either Aorus Elite, Aorus Pro or Aorus Ultra, depending on your budget. They have the same (decent) VRM, the difference is in connectors and bells & whistles. Z390 Aorus Pro WiFi is what I consider a sweetspot, a good, well rounded board that's not too expensive.
If you're into SFF like me, ASRock has the best ITX boards for intel (Z series, at least). Both Z370 Fatal1ty Gaming-ITX/ac and Z390 Phantom Gaming-ITX/ac are the best Intel ITX boards right now. Gigabyte's and MSI's Z390 ITX boards are very good too.
I would skip Asus, as they're simply overpriced while offering nothing worth the price difference over competition, unless you aim for the top tier boards. Their highest tier mobos are still great, even if expensive.
Recently purchased the Gigabyte Aorus Pro Wifi with a CPU just to get started, a Gold Intel G5400 - after about a week I noticed frequent brief hang up, delays and hesitations and that wasnt even trying to over clock it. So i found a 9600K Core I5 at a decent price and grabbed it. We'll see how much difference i can notice in performance after it arrives and i get it installed, I also decided to grab a few more 120 mm fans for additional insurance and cooling.
I told you I was going to build my PC from your videos.
Last night the operating system was installed no issues... everything was recognized and from what I can tell in great working order..
Now I’d like to find some software for monitoring the cpu, fans etc and a good frames monitor
For some reason the overlay for GeForce FPS is not in my settings
Thank you for the content... I literally built my pc following you!
did you update your drivers for you GPU?
rex Anderson yes sir. At least I believe so, the GeForce app shows the latest update on. I will check again to be sure.. this is the part I was more concerned with than the actual build. I am happy the thing started up with no issues that I have seen yet...
Even got my ram speed up to 3000 instead of the original 2133 I believe
@@HardHeadMilitary i use AMD currently but used to have an Nvidia card awhile ago. i really cant remember exactly how to get to that part. i know its in the geforce control panel somewhere though. sorry i couldnt help more.
rex Anderson I used amd cpu ryzen 7 2700 saved the bout 100 bucks on it getting the 2700x and used it on the card.. I was real close to the Vega 64
Thank you !! I was skeptic, but after watching this video, I've slapped an i9 9900k on my B360 motherboard. Upgraded from an i3 8100.
I got a 2700X and a Gigabyte X470 Gaming 5. Finally realized that is a mismatch. I should've gotten the Gaming 7, shouldn't I?
I have the Asus cross hairs Hero VII and have noticed I can't do much with it. I also have 2 setups with Asus and Gigabyte boards on I 7 8700K witch the AMD can't hold a candle to on anything. Now I'm wondering if it has anything to do with the board.
NH-D15 cooler FTW. As long as your case isn't too puny to handle its massive dual towers. Best cooler on the market. Second is the 212 Evo. You can cool an incredible amount of CPUs with that thing, it's the bang for your buck king.
That's what I have on my i9-9900K test bench :)
Man. This is the best video I’ve seen explaining cpu to mobo with detailed explanations. Great work!
STILL WITH A 68OOK AND A GTX 1080 FTW CARD. ROG PG348Q AT 3440 X 1400 RESOLUTION. To be honest, this setup still runs games at high frame rates, playes VR titles without any problems and looks great in ultra wide format. Most of the pc games are stuck in a rut these days. maybe when the consoles change to the next generation i might upgrade. as of now, 4k and super high frame rates are the only reason to upgrade but i dont think thats worth it yet. content creation took a hit with the intel vulnerability but still, not enough to care just yet. but its coming.
I'm finding the reason I'm considering upgrading isn't directly CPU performance related but more because my hardware is showing it's age, especially feature wise. My i5 4670 and GTX 1060 can still play new releases at 1080p on medium or high settings but as games get larger in size, even games loaded from my SATA SSD can have significant load times and my only options to reduce that time are to switch to NVMe, which my motherboard doesn't support and because it's getting old, now would be a good time to upgrade, while the hardware I have is still worth something on the used market.
I currently own a 9100f on a h310 paired with a 1650s and I'm very happy with its 1080p gaming performance. However when the time comes to upgrade, will the PCIe limitation of the h310 affect the performance of a higher end GPU? I don't really care about the features of the better chipset as long as the CPU and GPU don't lose performance.
EDIT: Great video btw. Subscribed!
I have exact same cpu, gpu and mb.
I got an i5-8400 and the Asrock B360M Pro4 before the release of 9th gen. Next week, I'll be building a pc for my friends with an i7-9700k and the Gigabyte Z390 AUROS Elite
The point is..
Higher price = more features
Imma go with lower features then, but I would like to ask some questions..
is it okay to get H310 chipsets to run in i5 9400F ?
Or do you still suggest H370 chipsets to fit in the i5 9400F ?
I've had a i7 8700 on a H370m AsRock board for over a year now. Good little set up. And by the Heaven benchmark scores for i7 8700's with a GTX1070 my PC is actually scoring better than they were. Not sure what the ram they were using, or if they were able to overclock all cores, or even which board. But not disappointed with the 2666mhz ram...
Hey Tech!, my system i'm running now is an i5 8600k w/ a noctua cooler, Gigabit Aorus Gaming 5 Z370, 16 gig Viper ram @2666, evga rtx 2080, evga 750 gold psu, and win 10. and running 2 m.2
Playing Div 2 on high settings 120fps, hope this system keeps me good for the new cod modern warfare/ borderlands and cyberpunk!
It was mentioned in this video how RAM could only go up to 2666mhz on a non OC motherboard. Let me add a little known fact. You need a 6-core processor to get 2666mhz on a non OC motherboard. I installed a 2666mhz stick of RAM on a 4-core i3-8100 and B360 motherboard. RAM could only go up to 2400mhz after turning XMP profile. Same thing happened when I installed a 2666mhz stick of RAM on a 4-Core Ryzen 2200g and A320M motherboard.
As usual - timely, understandable and educational. This is now my goto PC hardware channel. Kudos.
My current build is a 5820K with a Gigabyte X99 SLI, because of the various boards that I could afford for the platform, it was one of the few where I noticed that the available PCI-E lanes weren't suddenly disappearing if I needed to use a 28-lane cpu; far too many for the X99 platform, regardless of price, did this... like they basically expected people to only ever choose a 40-lane chip or something. I wasn't expecting to upgrade, but I'm approaching this from the inverse.
My former main pc, which was on a 680i sli motherboard, had died, and because I had lifetime warranty, I was issued a replacement of a z370 Classified K. Unfortunately, life kind of got in the way, and I've not even been able to get a CPU yet for it. I'm more or less wondering, what kind of CPU to go with for it... because off the top, I could either go with an 8700K, and entertain doing the de-lid and a direct die mount to get better thermals, or try and scrimp to get a 9900K, and just find a shop locally (if not the same place) to help me update the bios for the board to accept the new CPU. TD, if you were in my situation, for the money, what would you do and why?
Underrated channel this make my decision very easy and helpful
Another great video. This is my personal favorite type of video style you create.
While Gigabyte's H boards do not have all the myriad of detailed overclocking options their Z boards do, they can be decently overclocked! The included, Gigabyte Easy Tune software, can run your CPU at least 0.6 GHz faster than stock. Intel eXtreme Tuning Utility, can do even more, if your cooling solution is adequate - massive compared to the stock cooling solution.
You are by far one of the best computer component reviewer on RUclips! I love that you are realistic and state both the pros and cons and give recommendations based on use cases and budgets. This video really helped me as a first time builder. I think it would be interesting to compare the value of building a system that will require and upgrade in 6 years to a system that will need update in 3 years and see what is the most cost efficient in the long run. Perhaps it is better to go for the high end combo of i9 9900K and RTX 2080Ti compared to going with lower end options and having to replace them twice in the same period? If you also bring the topic of resource scarcity for rare earth metals that are so very needed to build computer parts it could also make more sense from an environmental perspecitve to build a system that lasts a long time compared to a system that needs to be upgraded relativiely soon.
Hi Tech Deals! thank you for this video, highly informative, as always. This gave me a better insight when it came to boards and processors, however;
I'm planning to build a PC from scratch and I want to keep my budget within $1500-1700 range. I'll use this PC mainly for gaming in 1080p and 144 fps, and I'll only max out my cash for directly gaming-related parts.
I'm thinking of Buying a B360M motherboard paired with an i7-8700(not planning to overclock), along with an RTX 2070 super. (I currently use an i5-4570 on an Asus B85M-G with a GTX 1060)
Should I still upgrade my motherboard to the Z series even if I'm not planning to overclock? My perspective on mobos is that I just need 4 USB slots, minimum. I want this gaming setup to last me at least 5-7 years without any issue. Thank you very much for your help.
I know that DDR5 is coming out pretty soon, but I hear that it's going to be kinda expensive. I'm hoping to build a new pc in September 2020. I'm still trying to figure out whether to stick with Intel, frankly because I'm a bit more familiar with than AMD, but I'm not against getting Ryzen.
I'm not looking for absolute best, but I don't want to go in the wrong direction either. I would love to have some of your assistance in choosing parts. I'm looking at either i7 or Ryzen 7. Thank You!
Get a premium X470 board & start with R7 1700 -- for a long smoothe economical upgrade path . Please don't consider X570 and/or anything less than R7 .
I have a pre-built system with an
Asrock H110M-HDV
i5-7500
16 GB 2400 Mhz
Gigabyte 3x Fan RTX 2060 (upgraded from a Manli GTX 1060)
I bought the Gigabyte 3x Fan RTX 2060 based on your recommendation of your RTX 2060 video and it's awesome! (i also used the affiliate link)
Now I want to replace the CPU and motherboard. I want to buy a i7-8700k
I don't need to buy a new CPU and Mobo immediately, I'll leave myself time until i'm 100% sure what Mobo I want to buy.
I can't believe how much motherboards you have.
A big fan from India, I am watching you from about 3 years now and love this channel.
An excellent video, still very relevant today. Regarding windows - if you ensure you are logged into windows attached to a Microsoft account, you should be able to move motherboard etc. with no issue - your Win 10 digital subscriber licence will activate windows when you reconnect to your Microsoft account- in your Microsoft account portal be sure to disconnect/delect your old hardware profile. Love your content Jason considering subscribing to your floatplane account.
lol, I just spent more for my ASRock Z390i Phantom ITX ($182.53) to go with the i5-9400F ($155.68). I hope the Phantom will last long enough for an upgrade a few years from now.
This is the video i was waiting for.
I haven't watched the video yet, but I bought the GIGABYTE Z390 AORUS Ultra and have had no issues with it thus far. I really recommend a sound card, like a Sound Blaster Z or something. The onboard sound is just meh and scout mode is godlike when it comes to directional hearing in games like CSGO. Using Gamezero headset paired with everything :). The interface of the mobo was easy enough to get around once I learned a few things, but no issues at all. It easily OC'd my 8700k with no issues to 5 with a 120mm all-in-one water cooler... Built my PC in March by the way, so it is still early in the life of my build
Hey Mr. Deals! If you were to build an SFF gaming PC today in which your cooling was limited, would you go with an i7-8700 on a H370 board, or get an i9-9900K on a Z390 and dial its performance back to where you can keep it cool? Will the i9 yield enough extra oomph in this use case to warrant the extra cost?
I chose i5 9600k on Asus Z390 F-gaming with GTX 1080 secondhand and 3600mhz RAM.
Work like a champ!
Just ordered z390 Master and 9900k with trident rgb B die 3600 32gb.To replace a bad mobo on my 8700k set up. sold the 8700k for $315 shippped. Ate the mobo unless RMA surprises me. Cannot afford any down time. GREAT VIDEOS.
You always do the research to allow your viewers a great jumping off point to find the perfect match. Excellent work!!
Some of these videos are good for people who might be thinking on building a desktop from the start, but most of tech youtube channels I fallow (Linus, Jay and others) forget that some people already own desktops and don't buy everything at once, like me. :).
You help me a lot in build up my 1st pc in 2020...thank you..god bless
What is the harm of using a MSI Z390 Gaming Plus with intel core i9-9900k ?? The cpu is not gonna run at 5.00 GHz speed ?? I've already paired with these two and it runs smooth as piece of cake !! Didn't understand why it wasn't recommended !?!
4 years later and I'm still rocking an i7 9700k on an Aorus Pro. ✌️
This was exactly the video I needed but couldn't find for weeks. Great channel!
This guy has so much logic. People overkill with CPU or mobo, need to balance with budget. 9600KF with a B motherboard is great combo now. Cheap stock.
This is SO helpful! I'm shopping for a board for a 9700K and the options were SO confusing. This video really helped - thanks!
Hey, what did you go with? I'm trying to find a motherboard for that same CPU
@@bars2585 I went with the MSI MPG Z390M Gaming Edge AC. I like the amount of USB ports it has compared to other boards that were available at the time. Sadly, I got it from Newegg and it looks like they're sold out now. I wish MSI software had more LED lighting options but that's a pretty minimal issue. It's served my needs very well, so I would recommend it if you can find one.
just built a i3-9100 with ASRock B365M April 2020 from newegg for less than $200. Runs cool and World of warcraft great plus 95% of other games listed on "Can you run it"
i got the "ASUS TUF Gaming GeForce® GTX 1650 SUPER™ OC Edition 4GB GDDR6" for $160 on amazon and 8 gigs of ram. i had the SSD so the system only cost me about $500 total
lots of room to upgrade the CPU to an i9-9900 later when they get around the 200 range.
Thanks once again this was very informative keep up the good work.
Lol the video is so old but I just hop in to comment that you look great in the thumbnail. Good job!
i had a dell xps 8930 with an 8700k that used their own proprietary z370 (had wifi and bluetooth though because the matx form factor), but i wanted to do a case swap, so i figured i'd upgrade the motherboard -- so i ended up going with an msi mpg z390m gaming. for a small board, this thing is pretty packed! thanks for the videos, they're extremely informative.
Hey Phil, sort of broad question here, but I’m planning on building a new gaming pc in about 2-3 years, and I was wondering what you (or anyone else here who knows) think I should buy for a cpu. I was looking into the i7-9700K, but now I’m not sure after hearing what you said about more threads from the 8700K. One of the games I’m definitely trying to gear my rig towards playing well is the Witcher 3. Also, bc this is a future build, do you think its worth looking into the i9-9900K for my cpu instead? I know the price right now for it is way higher than what I’m willing to pay for a cpu, but do you think it ls price will decrease within the next 3 years to where it might be around the mid-$300 level? I know thats probably wishful thinking but I cant help but wonder. Thanks!
I miss these types of video. Please make more videos like this, where we decide what to buy
thanks man super helpful. Way too many choices out there and this condenses it
Thank you so much. I’ve been racking my brain lately no have an iBuyPower prebuilt. I’m really getting comfortable. i5 9400f on a B365. I want the i7 9700f but I just didn’t know if I needed a board upgrade or what. Thanks so much again.
Easy, just pick the H370 as the base, the H310/B360 are nothing. The jump from H310 to B360 is not much (except for the PCIE 3.0 chipset support). Plus, H370 and up has RAID support.
Most of the Z-series decent entry boards, are decent for non-OC situations.
Thank you (again) Tech God. Rocking an i3-9100f atm but I'm looking into a premium Z390 board so I can upgrade my CPU down the line :)
Your videos helped me a lot making decisions. Very detailed!
You sir, earned yourself another subscriber 👈
Jermaine Richard Sarmiento - Thanks so much for the sub, welcome to the Deal Nation!
Can you do one with Ryzen??
so far the best complete guide , good job dude :)
"You've decided to buy Intel"
Well that was your first mistake.
@Dindü Nüffin I mean, why pay more for less cores and subpar performance?
@Dindü Nüffin I see you are a man of culture and you are picking up a 16c 32t Ryzen 3950x for the low low price of $750
i3 - 9100f > Ryzen 3 3rd gen
@Dindü Nüffin I'm running a 16 core Threadripper build so affordability is not on my radar.
Except if it's the 9900k, or if you hate performance, the i5 is the same price as a 1700, but not everyone is me
I really hope the ryzen 5 3600+b450/550 combo is gonna beat the $550 8700k combo in terms of both value and performance 😉, it's either that or the 3700x im gonna buy by year-end
I need to find a board for the new Ryzen 3800x not sure what to get
Imersiion wait for independent reviews on zen 2
I'm running the 1800x now on an ASRock Taichi x370 now. This motherboard should have no problem running the new 3800x. Personally I'm hoping for compatibility with either the 3900x or the 3950x. I will definitely spend the money on those if my motherboard will support the new r9 series :D Was going to build Threadripper this year, but Zen2 got me on hold LOL.
Leechburg Lights I was surprised at how much they cost it’s nowhere near what I thought they be priced at, thought they’d be really expensive but they aren’t
Right! That is what has got me so intrigued. The VALUE! I am a content creator and use my PC as my vehicle for income. It's not that I deserve better. No, I need to produce. I'm not spending the $$$$ on Intel when AMD will do it for 1/2 :) nope... However... if Intel get's their head out of their ass and drops their pricing, then maybe I'd consider it. So happy with my investment into Ryzen 2 years ago.
Wait.. so did I make a mistake getting the MSi gaming plus for a i7-9700k?
I paired an i5-8600(Non-K) to a MSI B360M Bazooka, worked like a charm.
Awesome. Thanks for posting.