Musical Superiority Complexes
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- Опубликовано: 15 янв 2025
- I got a playlist of cool songs by new and interesting artists for you to shove in the face of any losers trying to tell you they don't make good music anymore: open.spotify.c...
I saw a 6 word comment and just projected a lot of my own frustrations on this poor dude who probably didn't mean ANY of the things I complained about.
This is an extra rambly video where I mainly whine about a specific mindset that folks tend to have about music, having an overemphasis on technical prowess, traditional sensibilities, and a desperation to harken back to the good old days.
I tried my best to rein in my Rick Beato comments of course. I am only human. I'll have a dedicated video about him someday.
The descriptions on videos are important factors that RUclips uses to find and sort content and all that jazz. It's actually more beneficial to put keywords in here. If I were to do something so cloying and desperate, I'd probably include terms like Childish Gambino concert, live performance, Donald Glover, concert experience, music puritanicalism, Rick Beato critique, music vs performance, live show effects, concert lighting design, concert visuals, artist creativity, modern music, digital music production, backing tracks live, analog vs digital music, live show storytelling, Gorillaz, Covey, St Terrible, concert set design, Rick Beato rant, DIY band performances, mixing music genres, evolving music industry, old vs new music, concert special effects, music and art fusion, new music appreciation, arena concerts, multimedia music experiences, immersive music, live music innovation, passionate songwriting, emerging artists, livestream, music culture rant, artistic expression, musical purism, evolving performance art, live performance storytelling. But I wouldn't do that. I'm above that.
Call your mom and tell her you love her btw.
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Hey if you're feeling grumpy and misantrhopic like the old head losers I described in this video, I have a cool playlist of newer songs that I think are pretty good: open.spotify.com/playlist/1AOT2Wlt0vRHvTuBbolp3W?si=239562594a254226
Hey Nate
I am blind so cpuld u.describe what is going on in the video.
Ps. Ur voice sounds quote charm9rming. Especially when u talk about music
it’s just me talking in front of a parking lot with correlating images flashing across the screen!
Oh ok. Thank you. What is ur insta
Add some black midi!!!
Rick Beato is a coin toss to me, he’s not entirely arrogant but at the same time expecting the second coming of Beethoven in the Top 10 is insane to me.
I feel like he should do a series of videos where he asks his audience for not well known artists from the modern day and talks about his thoughts on it. Not going on Spotify top 50 and roasting the umpteenth Colombian song with a two chord progression and a Reggie beat.
This, exactly this. It is so irritating honestly, he does have a point, but why not choose to promote young talented artists also, they would really help some exposure.
Like Fontano is the same anal, but at least he introduces some less popular artists.
@@kat3325but that's exactly what Rick's done. He just made video with Hohnen Ford, a talented new artist that he found great. You're yelling at clouds mate
Let me promote some not that much known artists:
1- FINNEAS (he is known for being billie's brother but it is bc of that that ppl are not thinking about looking through his music. Thankfully, some of her fans did that, including me, and my jaw is constantly on the floor. Give him some love☺️)
2- Ashe (She rn ended her contract with her label and finneas produced some of her songs, BUT I feel like her new album is better than her previous ones, it is such a BANGER)
3- Girl in red (She feels like a loaf of fresh air to me bc her production is rly different)
4- lizzie Mcalpine
my favourite is when rick beato uses a google search chart of the word "music" as proof that young people don't care about music anymore lmaooooo. i feel like you summarise my views on this issue pretty succinctly! nice vid :D
There’s a reason the only young folks he tends to attract to his videos are beginner novice musicians who don’t know better. Just bums me out that he’s the one they listen to.
Yup, even when he tries to say something positive, he comes off as an old arrogant out of touch man.
He's just that insufferable.
It's so dumb because when gen z wants to listen to music, they don't google "music" they open the Spotify app 🤣🤣
@@NateIsLamewhy are you so worried about what others do
In high school I used to follow the “old music good, new music bad” way of thinking. One day the student teacher asked the class what year’s charts we should put on. I blurted out 1977 because all my favorite albums at the time came out in ‘77. I did not recognize or like a single song that played. It’s not the year that makes the music great, it’s the passion of the artists.
Boomers: "ThErE's No TaLeNt AnYmOrE."
Some random 16 year old with FL Studio and Yamaha keyboard: 🎶🔥🎶🔥🎶🔥🎶🔥🎶🔥🎶
bros talking abt flyingfish ong.
@@Future_Doggo amazing profile picture dude
@@Shoegazeandhiphop God damn I've never felt so related to someone in my life. You win the internet imo
@@Shoegazeandhiphop or parannoul
This really struck a chord with me. Like music. Like a music chord.
I like music.
My first art medium was visual, drawing, painting, whatever. So when I started my band Blood & Bullets (shameless self-promotion aside) it became a massive motivator for my visual art work as album art and storylines and comics became intertwined with the audio we’ve put out. It’s super cool when artists capture an aesthetic both visually and audibly.
If Rick Beato actually cared about the state of modern music, he’d be spending far more time introducing his large audience to amazing new bands, musicians, and maybe even rappers, instead of worshipping the musicians of the past and shitting on anything new and surface-level.
My thoughts exactly homie
He was doing that with his "what makes this song great" series. But him ranting to appeal to boomers gets more views
@@ileutur6863 But that's exactly the problem right? Fucking boomer all fucking sellouts
rap isnt music
@@soulbrother54355/10 rage bait
I was once one of those "there's no good music anymore" people. My dad is a straight boomer who grew up during the 60s and grew up during the 2000s/2010s listening to 60s/70s/80s music in the car on the way to school. Perhaps good music was easy to find back then because radio hosts basically acted as the curated playlist creators of today, choosing which songs they thought would be good to play instead of playing a preset playlist nowadays. Then, during the COVID years, I learned about the world of RUclips independent music. That was the first time I listened to full albums by bands I was familiar with like Pink Floyd at first, then branched out into more modern bands like King Gizzard, Red Vox, Tame Impala, MGMT, etc. They were all found incidentally in my recommended, and I still listen to them to this day while still trying to broaden my horizons and look for new bands. In fact, knowing that anyone can make music and share it with the world with little to no barrier to entry made me start to make music (still need to improve, but I'm Colin Sense if you want to check out some mediocre indie rock).Yes, boomers, there was some great music back in the day, but there's also some great music now. Like Nate said, you just have to look for it.
P.S. If you really prefer the 60s/70s style songwriting, there's plenty of bands that are strongly influenced by that style: The Lemon Twigs, Weyes Blood, King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard, Congratulations/Little Dark Age/Loss of Life era MGMT, and black midi. There's probably more I haven't found yet.
Just wanna say, as a longtime subscriber/viewer I have absolutely LOVED these more rambly video essay-ish videos you've making on specific topics lately. It definitely seems like you're more rejuvenated now more than ever when it comes to RUclips, and this was another fantastic video! I definitely love this new direction you're taking things in, and I can't wait to see what you do next.
@@michaelvessel4604 agreed!
It really is the best age to be a music fan bc music is so easily accessible they are no longer required to be on vinyl discs and can be easily accessed. Listening to songs in high quality is more accessible than ever
i absolutely agree with what you're saying !! art, lore and storytelling are such fun aspects of music to incorporate. to me it absolutely adds onto the experience ! i love people being able to put any sort of story of some sort to music, whether its by the artist themselves or interpreted by others. art and all the different perspectives that you can get and see is just absolutely amazing. absolutely a worth it experience, i believe.
I like the outside ranting video style
God me too
@@NateIsLame God me three
@@Imm0rtal24 God me four
Devil me cry
I bet Rick has never spent hours on bandcamp. So much good content hidden there
One of my friends who is also getting into writing songs really does have this thing about how every lyric needs to be perfect and refuses to write a song if they don't have a whitty or smart line that they came up with and I can't even tell you how infuriating it is to try and get them to... Not do that.
Writing down each and every thought you have when you sit down and write a song is the best way imo because you know exactly what you're working with and you can get rid of creative blockage. I told them that's the reason why they hate writing songs and said their standard is too high. They responded "your standard is too low".
That is a prime way to not ever release anything lol. Your friend needs to get over that asap. That’s suicide as a musician.
more and more rick beato hate has been recently coming out and i couldn't be happier
I’ve only seen one or two of his videos before, what did he do wrong? I just don’t vibe with his personality imo.
Nvm I finished the video
YESS I’ve always sensed he’s a dick but nobody believed me
Idk man an opinion is opinion. Like I don’t agree with nate or Rick on this so idk
I can’t help but respect Rick, he knows his stuff and he’s just sharing his opinion that might be trapped in a different time period. But the guys is bringing in living legends like Steve Gadd, Sting, Mike McDonald onto his channel to give us like a view into the incredible world of music. So what if the guy makes bad takes here and there.
alternate title: Rick Beato Survival Guide
We all have different tastes in music.
The problem is the stuff I like listening to isn’t being made today.
That’s the actual issues.
When people say modern music is bad, what they actually mean is the stuff they like listening to isn’t being made anymore.
So you only have to listen to old bands or artists.
Nah you can find modern bands in your genre of choice. I love Sabbath, and there are so many good stoner metal bands out there with under 1000 views that have been releasing lately.
Same goes with Nu Metal.
The real offense of musical elites enforcing their rules over art is the stifling of new artists. When Rick Beato and his audience actively put down new artists and music, there will be less experimentation, which will result in less formulated techniques toward making great music. Think about the genre of hip-hop and the war against sampling that happened, think of the fact that so many purists still find drum machines to be a sin. If the artists, for no reason, did as they were told and didn't make their music with their experimental techniques, we would end up with less possible ways to make music, which would end up making music stale and *actually* having everything sound the same, which would be exactly the opposite outcome that musical elitists would be expecting! Thankfully, artists don't give a shit about Rick, and will make their music.
What are you talking about? Rick doesn’t put down new artists who experiment he loves variety! He puts down tired, repititive, corporate sounding slop that for some reason gets way more attention than unique stuff
My Opinion On Backing Tracks:
I'm fine with artists using backing tracks as AN ADD ON not lipsyncing or fakes playing.
Yeah lying to your audience sucks
@@NateIsLame Milli Vanilli is one instance of the band lying to the audience.
@@TheReadingTraveler Exactly! Backing tracks should enhance, not carry
@@TheReadingTravelerI mean milli vanilli is as punk rock as it gets
It's not just the old heads though, I fell into the Rate Your Music rabbit hole and theres a lot of gen y-z who fit what you described even more than boomers. Stuff like objectively good or bad, technical prowess, the need for lyrics to be extremely poetic or talking about the human condition, etc. They definitely don't think hip hop is a bad genre though.
There’s certainly a Radiohead flavor of this type of person lol
@@NateIsLame This is true, they either think that Radiohead is the best band in the world, or Radiohead is entry level 💀
They also keeps circlejerking about the same 100 albums. Like I get it, loveless is fantastic and a benchmark for alternative guitar music, but please can we talk about something new?
@@eliasmsv3156 Yes, we can talk about something new like Ants From Up There
@@Camreeyan But ONLY ants from up there.
I don’t like Rick Beato either. The video of his I really had a problem with is where he claimed that all new music is bad because a new jack harlow song is nowhere near as good as across the universe by the Beatles.
I do agree that jack harlow’s music isn’t good, but there is SO MUCH good music being made today.
It’s all about taste.
When people say music isn’t good anymore, what they mean is the music they like isn’t being made anymore.
@@NuMetalfan1996 I agree but to say that all modern music is bad because of one artist or song is just ignorant.
incredible video man absolutely hate people who feel superior just because of their music taste
Pink Floyd is commonly regarded be these people and their performances were as elaborate as things like the childish concert shown here
this is like being mad watcing the wall live. like this people whould never act the same about older music
These old guys probably like Pink Floyd
@@staringcorgi6475 thats exactly my point!!!
@@purplelamp_ even before the wall Pink Floyd did unorthodox shows like in one show in 1969 getting a choir, organ, and brass ensemble for the end of a a sauceful of secrets. This contrasts with rock bands back than just having a guitar, bass, drums, and singer
exactly! you cant say “it needs to be about the music, man!!!” to dunk on modern artists and yet worship the band that pulled stunts like playing a show in the ruins of Pompeii.
Hell yeah! I am loving these videos! I’m so happy you’re back! Absolutely ecstatic! I don’t even care if they’re not animation I’m loving whatever it is you wanna put out!
This video just boosted my confidence as a musician ❤️
My boyfriend and I screamed when you mentioned Covey. Respect. Glad to hear the other people out there appreciate and listen to his music
Shared this comment with him! Thank you for sharing. c:
4:28 There I am!! But fr loved this video and I absolutely agree with your points. I really don’t like Rick Beato and how he thinks the only good music is just from the past. There is good music everywhere, some of the best music i’ve ever heard is from today, and I think the idea of blocking out those artists and just strictly listening to music that some old lad on the internet says is the only good music is just pathetic. I’m not dissing music from the past at all of course, but there is great music everywhere from all eras in time.
thank you. because of this video, i feel ready to pursue my dream musical project. a queef symphony. holy moly it's gonna be queeftastic
Send me the album when it’s done.
The passion and creativity of music will always be a thousand times more important than the production value.
Hi Nate - we played a show with Racoon Tour back in July 2023 in Omaha at Razor Wire 🤙🏻
This was a great watch. It drove the point home and I appreciate both your love for small bands and the positive takeaway. We wish you well 🖤 Alex
I don't get the impression that rick beato is against new music. I think he's just salty at the death of the electric guitar. He's not opposed to new artists like Polyphia and Tosin Abasi, having interviewed them on his channel, in fact it was Beato and Polyphia's tim henson that coined the phrase "boomer bends" to describe an old style of playing guitar. What he is opposed to is the instrument and style so many dedicated their younger days to not being praised and glorified by the new generation of musicians.
For example, rick doesn't really like taylor swift, because all her guitar work is acoustic consists of basic chords. He does however enjoy some of sabrina carpenter's latest work, due to an electric guitar being involved and the use of some slightly more complex chords.
Still sounds painfully constraining. Bro just needs to go to more basement shows and quit listening to the top 20.
@@NateIsLame agreed. basement music just got "it"
@@NateIsLame That’s very easy to say.
Rick Beato’s point is that Top 20 music used to be creative and it hasn’t been creative in 20 years.
In noise music, it's not about talent, it's about creativity 🙂
Noise music is the sonic equivalent of modern and abstract art
The long and short of it you love Bladee
I always knew the Rick Beato type oldhead mentality was bad but I read one comment a while ago that's the perfect way to word everything wrong with that mindset: "they don't like rock music, they like rock myths." If people like Rick actually cared about good modern music they would look beyond the literal top 10 songs and see what invested younger listeners really care about
Also, one of the worst things Rick does is look at the singles charts to judge modern music when most of his favorite bands were mostly on the album charts! Modern music with the most staying power/cultural impact tends to show up there so it infuriates me that he doesn't look there
Just because it was more difficult to make doesn't mean the end result is necessarily better.
Fuck Rick Beato gang! I think his modem of teaching is damaging to younger musicians, and I love seeing more criticism of his content being released.
Love this video bro. This Gave me confidence in making a cover that isn’t that good at a technical standpoint, but it gives more heart than whatever Beato is going. Thanks man
i think the point you bring up about the certain spark you can hear in peoples earlier music is really interesting. When i first started my music project FourteenTwelve (shameless promo sue me i’m sorry) last year my music was horrible. im not over exaggerating when i say it’s just unlistenable shit, but when i listen back to the (now privated) old songs, i hear the soul in it. it’s absolute rubbish, but i can hear that spark of interest and passion. That spark is something you just can’t regain later on, no matter how hard you try, and i think everyone has it. Everyone’s early music that you can listen to has that spark. Other than that really good point you made, great video!
Rick Beato and Fantano are the worst parts about being a music fan. You can't escape them
lol both actually arguing each other months ago.
Idk I feel Fantano at least does a good job establishing that folks should think for themselves, support and engage with musicians that are under the radar, and is generally a progressive thinker when it comes to the medium. He’s got opinions for sure, but encourages the viewer to form their own as well.
I don’t think it’s fair comparing the two.
Fantano fan base is the worst imo, whenever there's a VOD on RUclips from his streams, the chat is always saying the most braindead nonsense like they're a bunch of 11 year olds, and then Fantano will be like, "I like this" and they'll all start agreeing with him immediately like he's some sort of Greek god.
@@TheDingus401 Couldn't have said it better myself
Please make that Rick Beato video lol that would be awesome
Banger video, really perfectly summed up my frustration with a lot of music conversations I have/hear
Rick Beato has a ton of knowledge and insight, when he's talking about music he likes. As soon at gets outside of that he vecomes inaufferable
Thank you for making this. I’ve had these same Thoughts for a long time now
Idk how I’m supposed to go back to normal life after the new world tour concert, very excited for his future projects
And they’re the same type to love Pink Floyd and their shows aren’t famous for just them playing. Those guys raised the bar for what live performances can be and are why concerts are the way they are today
TLDR even back in the day live performances weren’t 100 percent about the music
Don't play Mario Kart with Rick Beato
I deal with the kinda of rick beato type person so much in music/production school. Like idc that you can shred better than me, we aren’t enemies. Artistic expression can be done in so many ways.
I cannot agree more when you're talking about today being one of the best eras for just about every genre of music. Some of my current favorite bands I found by literally just scrolling through Bandcamp and Spotify and taking a chance to listen to some of their stuff!!
Shameless plug here, but my band Suburban Ants is something that I never imagined I'd have so much fun with. It's literally just me (drummer) and the guitarist/vocalist making the weirdest stuff we can think of and putting it in the context of garage rock. In fact, I think a lot of the fun now comes when I throw out all the preconceived notions I had about music and just embraced the fact that him and I are weirdos and goofballs....... and that's okay!!!!
Isn't this music scene actually everything boomers ever wanted? In their youths, they all strove to be authentic but were actually only ever part of whatever monocultural movement they were alive for (60s, 70s, 80, 90s etc). The internet has allowed for not just polyculture, but ENDLESS culture. Yes, commercial music has been dominant (and intrusive) for quite a while now. But the "rEaL MuSic" that boomers say is dead is actually more "authentic" than ever directly as a result of that! Idles, King Gizzard and The Lizard Wizzard, Gee Tee, RMFC, Soft Play (formerly "Slaves"), Amyl and the Sniffers, Stiff Richards, The Chats, MacDemarco, Mild High Club, Bob Vylan. All of them are living proof that music is not only alive but kicking like a fucking mule. Would Señor Beato ever mention any of these bands? No. He'd rather jerk off to Pink Floyd and cry.
Hello, I'm a Gen X, old head, grey hair like Beato and his grumbling peers and I *know* the guy is full of shit on this topic because I was exposed to all the same pop culture he was. There was a tonne of brain dead music in the 70s ~90s just as there's tonne of great stuff in the 21st century.
He's just refusing to accept the culture has moved on without him and it doesn't give a shit about catering to him (or me) anymore. It's embarrassing to watch an old man become "Old" if you know what I mean.
Beato literally named his children Lennon and Layla. That's how insufferable he is.
You’re JOKING
@@NateIsLame I'm super serial
I’m here for the Rick beato beef
my thing is always: just make the music you wanna hear yourself dude!
I think we would all benefit if everyone took a more radical approach to creating and consuming art. Like you said, if we meet artists where they are coming from on a project and try to enjoy it for what it is. If we don't limit ourselves to just the auditory medium and instead create in conjunction with other mediums and senses. If we stop trying to set limits on someone's allowance to create their own art because of a lack of technical knowledge or skill, and instead encourage them to create and learn at the same time.
As an aspiring music producer, I am well aware that there are a lot of technical skills I could improve that would help me express myself through my art better. There are financial barriers that might limit the equipment I have to work with. But this more radical stance that I've adopted, mainly that all art is good art in a sense, and there is no such thing as objectively bad art, has given me the courage and the inspiration to create and share my music without feeling like I'm not good enough or worthy enough to do so.
Thanks for this video, it was very on point ♥️
10:14 love this. This is how I’ve always thought about art and I’ve never understood why so many people don’t !
I was worried this would be an attack on old music but you really made a great video that i completely agree with. Like yeah old music is great (as you can tell by my pfp lol) but there is still amazing things being made currently. Also old prog bands like pink floyd were literally known for their light shows and being more than just the music
I honestly don't listen or care for alot of stuff that comes out most of the time, is that because these songs are objectively bad? no, It's just not my thing, one thing I do with though, is that the industry gave some room for people who do different stuff, instead of focusing on ONE thing for like, 10 years before moving on to the next thing, I wish things had an equal chance of getting popular, and that music was more independent, but yelling at the clouds about "modern music" isn't getting anyone anywhere
I really really love outsider music. Music with no musician, no set guideline like a drum track or bass. Not much musical expertise. Daniel Johnston has some of the best most heart wrenching lyrics and his instrumentals are childish, out of tune, fuzzy, and scarily honest.
PSA: All music is good, literally fucking everything, from harsh noise to k-pop, hardcore to jungle, dark ambient to goregrind, it’s all good as long as some human has part in writing it.
Only AI generated music is truly bad music
The minute music became accessible it became something people wished to gatekeep
I absolutely agree that visuals can be just as important as the music, a great example of this is the recent teaser for the new tyler the creator album ST CHROMA
As someone who literally only listens to older music (just cause I love that sound and that’s fine with me), I would NEVER EVER gatekeep sound. It’s so fucking stupid to be like “oh this is how it must be otherwise it’s NoT MuSic” that’s sooo dumb, simple minded, and whoever says that old or young, is obviously missing the point of music
Recently, I started to find more new & "new" music. I found so many sounds I that I never knew I liked, I would have never found my favourite band Controlled Bleeding if I never went out of my comfort zone.
I enjoy both Rick Beato's stuff as well as yours. I have to admit that I also deem your content completely different. Your content entertains me and leaves me a bit happier than before - Rick's content mostly educates and informs me. I avoid his reaction videos.
"There's no good music nowadays" man go to Australia
I go to a concert for the music, not all the extra stuff. But that’s just me. I like real instruments on stage and people playing live and being aloud to mess up and improvise. I’m also not going to dunk on people for liking other stuff. I may not go to a Taylor Swift show, but there’s nothing wrong with it.
I love your new content, keep it up.
something about referring to concerts as just a place to hear music is such a strange take to me. because more times than not, you are going to the concert because you are already a big fan of the music, you want to go to a concert to enhance the experience of just to it yknow. if it was really just about the music, i could put my headphones on and call it a day.
one of my favorite bands is The Dear Hunter and they do a lot of coheed style conceptual stage play kinda stuff which is of course insanely pleasing in an audible way, i mean there's orchestral there's leitmotifs there's reprisals, but also in the past few years or so he's been experimenting with animation and made his own short film that he wrote and scored and it's equally bombastic and it would be unfair to judge only one aspect of that
Sure Rick Beato can shred like Eddie Van Halen, but he can't write a song about love, loss, grief, and angst from just two ukulele chords that hits like a javelin through the heart. So who's really the "expert" here?
FR like literally some of my favorite genres weren't even developed 20 years ago (Spanish-language trap)! I don't understand how people fail to appreciate the diversity and creativity of modern music 😢
I was watching this video in the background and since autoplay was on it played a video for me, IT WAS A RICK BEATO VIDEO, I just watched a video where a guy says why he hates rick beato and then RUclips said “You know what this person will like, Rick Beato video” 🙄
I have one rule with music, if it sounds good its good. Doesn’t matter if it’s jazz or country, if it sounds good to you its good!
Obviously it’s fair to have preferences with music, but you point out something very true, that you can’t act like your preferences with music are what make it objectively better. I hate how old heads do that. Not everything has to sound like classic rock to be good. When I started being more open minded about music, I was free to just embrace each artist for what they are.
while I agree with virtually every point you made (as a musician), I thing that it should be noted that musicians are slowly running out of spaces irl in favor of the higher margins of bigger venues, and so there is a significant lack for some musicians for both practice spaces, and for local musicians to show off and encourage others to get better. I think the anger is probably very real and justified I just also think you cant do anything about that and more people should protest monopolistic practices in the states which is ruining some smaller more intimate spaces.
TLDR: I think the anger is misplaced (blame capitalism) not invalid
At this rate senior year survival guide wont be out by the time I'm a senior
Probably older
@@NateIsLame lmao the goat replied, youre a real one
I really hate anytime someone tries to place an objective criteria on any medium of art. Art of any kind is the last place I want people to constrain themselves to some imaginary set of rules
That’s not Rick Beato’s point.
Rick Beato is saying that mainstream music isn’t as creative as it used to be, which is true.
@@NuMetalfan1996 Did I mention Rick Beato in my comment?
@@hannahkozlovic1715 oh my mistake, just i saw a bunch of comments about Rick Beato and thought you mentioned him as well.
"Erm, our music might sound like ass cheeks but at least we have reverb!"
One of my biggest issue with music purists is that they will act like musical technicality is dead but completely ignore genres and scenes where that is alive and well. Look outside of the top 40, check out the musician's musicians, and you'll see that musical technicality is not only alive and well, but that this new generation of musicians are doing insane stuff that we've never seen before. They'll complain about the lack of technicality, and in the same breath you'll see some of them comment on videos where an instrumentalist is doing some crazy technical stuff for a cover, and complain about how they overplay. Like pick a lane...
I like music a lot. I like a lot of these points, and disagree a lot with Beato.
What concerns me is that this is polarizing and painting him and people like him into a single issue and invalidate everything else they say.
This in turn causes those triggered to ignore all nuance and reduce your points into the most disagreeable one to them.
Fucking hell, there is so much good shit available everywhere. Taking ourselves too seriously and using musical taste and knowledge as some kind of lame power trip is just gross.
Let's keep sharing good shit. That is what has value.
as someone who makes weird electronic music thats intentionally bizarre at points, it baffles me how some people think that theres some- special objective way to know what music is good. old musicians werent better than the modern musicians, they arent worse than modern musicians, they're musicians. it doesnt matter how you get there, as long as you're jammin and enjoyin the music, you're doin good music.
I like old and new music, hard to hold your self to just one era of music with endless bands out there. I want to be a a folk singer, but I also wanna do tons of other genres I enjoy. I do find it funny that older people say it should just be about the music yet the Beatles were the first ones to make music videos lol. But as you said enjoy the music you enjoy and make the music you wanna make
Hey that's sick ! ! I want to be a folksinger too. I do think that the 'no good music anymore' holds true for folk music, since I'd say that proper folk music is dead, and now the label 'folk' is used for any person with a guitar
But like yeah, there's a ton of great ambient and electronic music being made today, which is cool
I feel like usually music works best as a sort of “spice” or whatever.
Yeah sure you can listen to it by itself but when it’s attached to a visual or a game or a movie or whatever it’s great at enhancing it to be something more than basic art alone
Then again music works well on its on as well, just like all types of art, but claiming that that’s the only way it should work is kinda dumb
nate is there anyway i could order raccoon tour stickers in bulk i definitely would not stick them everywhere around my university campus, that would be vandalism i would never do anything like that that is illegal
Yeah just dm me on Instagram or Twitter!
this is so facts. preach.
I think the intention matters most, a lot of artists use backing tracks because they wanna provide a fuller sound and the alternative would be wildly impractical like getting a whole symphonic orchestra on tour. On the other hand there are artists who straight up lip sync. Were the lights and special effects here intended to hide lip sync? Same with song length, are you making a sub 2 minute song because you wanna cater to the tiktokification of music? or is 2 minutes enough time for you to explore the musical idea?
Hey, at the end of the day, if your audience is satisfied then it was a good show.
Well timed picture of Pixies lol.
I don’t think “old music” is very different than “new music.” You seem to argue that new artists are inclined to incorporate other artistic mediums and are open to experimenting with production techniques yet that line of thinking has been going on since the 60s.
I think the difference is that older music has historically and generally leaned way harder on the “music” itself with regards to composition and performance as opposed to the wider thematic experience that’s easier to cultivate today with fewer resources.
There's a difference between having high standards for yourself and others and being anti music . Backing tracks and click tracks can help some performances, but being against them does not make you a boomer.
This dude Nate is so cool I regret not going to the raccoon tour show in atl
Bit of a long comment here so I apologize lol
So my mom is a big fan of Rick Beato. And, I do love her to bits, but maaaaan, she just laps every bit of bullshit that guy says. Like when he used a google charts search for "music" as proof that young people apparently don't care about music anymore, or when he tried to blame music apparently getting worse on technological advances. Every time he just says some obviously stupid, and sometimes provably wrong thing, my mom is just like "yeah alright that sounds legit". She's not the most in touch with popular culture, to say the least. She hasn't listened to popular music consistently since the 90s. She's not familiar with stuff that's popular now, let alone the more obscure stuff. She's knows Rick Beato for his work on a lot of the stuff she grew up listening to, she trusts his judgements, unfortunately. She just doesn't know any better, to put it bluntly. Here's this guy that's just as stubborn as she is, who believes that music is somehow an objective artform, and he's just reinforcing and validating her outdated viewpoints. And it's not just her either, obviously. There's a ton of boomers, gen x, and even younger people like me that take this man's garbage seriously.
And it sucks so much because she really does have a love for music. I've managed to get her into a few modern bands and artists that I love. But for the most part she just sticks with the same old stuff she's been listening to for decades. It just makes me so frustrated to see her be so unwilling to gives newer music a chance, because some annoying guy on the internet told her that it's all garbage so don't even bother. There's so much she's missing out on thay I'm pretty confident she would love if she just gave it try
yo, if you're gonna rip into Beato, you gotta do it with Pat Finnerty
Haven’t heard of them! I’ll dig in.
@@NateIsLame I recommend his What Makes This Song Stink series, it's really funny
if these oldheads could realize that music isn’t 100% objective, their lives would be so much better. they could be frolicking in a field instead of complaining that new music is bad
Me: The Frostpunk soundtrack is really good same with some European theme parks
Art connoisseur: b-but video games d-don't count it's not music, and how dare you compare some dive coaster in the Netherlands to Beethoven!
Me: What the? When did I mention Beethoven?
I have always cringed at rick beato vidoes, but I want to know if you have any thoughts on Finn Mckennty?
Haven’t heard of them, will check em out.
I mean, unlike many commenters here, I actually like some of Rick Beato's stuff, so I'm actually wondering if he does this Spotify Top 10 breakdowns because it brings him engagement, to the extent that any videos on up and coming underground bands wouldn't? And not all of his comments on what is in Spotify Top 10 are negative, so many of his titles do have that clickbaity feel to them.
And, as far as using the visual elements in music, that's certainly something that was done to varying extent in the 70s too, which many herald as the golden age of music. Like, wasn't Peter Gabriel in Genesis literally doing drag performances some five decades before Chappell Roan maximised on that angle in her live performances? I guess the only difference between a Childish Gambino show and the Genesis' Lamb tour is that Gambino has more reliable technology to work with, as opposed to slides that failed most of the time in 1975.
amazing video. extra points for animal crossing music.
Caroline Polacheck is lesser known artist who, in my opinion, has a lot of talent. She is not on the radio, and I think she should be. She's got the voice for it.