Hi, I am German and train Karate now for about 27 years. I merge Karate with other martial arts which I studied too (Judo, Jiu Jitsu, Arnis, Aikido, Wing Tsun...). This Explanation of Mawashi Uke is the best I have seen so far, because it builts the bridge between hard and soft Styles. Brdges are better than Separators! Arigato
I’m going to take that as a compliment. Although the truth is, any instructional video on a fundamental technique in any discipline (say the minor pentatonic scale in guitar) would probably require more than 12 minutes to properly explain and explore its use.
You could make a video for a week and not cover this fully much inside this movement many techniques soft hard long short chi sau internal external cun na sealing the blood point work the list goes on and on and on.
@@mrvgranfield Yeah, Bet one could spend an entire lifetime developing endless bunkai for this one set of movement, make a whole career of it too - there'll always be people who will buy into it.
Taken from classical (Woo Dip Jong) or butterfly palm this movement has many meanings 20 at least. The main yang version on shoulder hip push or yin clawing version pulling and throwing from the hip and shoulder the elemental movement splitting apart on the push is wood, the clawing movement is metal pulling together pulling the gripping parts retrieval .The push or the pull are diagonally across the opponents stance so they have no strength to resist.
@@DanDjurdjevicplus Butterfly is a powerful (style) incorporated into Heung gar its one of the obvious types of combat on first appearance to appear easy to understand so it would of been quite alluring to the Japanese with a pocket full of gold and a shopping basket of techniques to take home to any clan. Butterfly would of been a typical nugget out of the many palms its fairly destructive and in no way flowery. Palm work takes a while to condition and most use a slap but this uses placement before the internal palm is used and I'm not sure if you have ever come across this because its the hidden method within this palm. I'm bound by oath so ill finish with this if a thick steak of 2" was placed on a table and a pulsed butterfly palm placed on this steak the back of the steak would look like mincemeat with no break of contact. Butterfly goes deep in skill and technique Hung gar wouldn't take on outside skills easily this shows great depth and quality .
Any thoughts on adding "claw' like moves to the technique? I've seen southern chinese styles emphasise heavily on how they do a FuJow (tiger claw) or YingJow (eagle claw) as per their system. I sometimes see Shotokan ways of doing palm or heel strikes and they almost never talk about clawing or Grasping, meanwhile goju Ryu has Saifa (tearing) Kata. Japanese seem very stuck up about small details like fingers must be straight or together to look trim and pretty for a performance. But what if the performance of stunting their training or application ?
Yes, I haven’t demonstrated, but my brother likes to add the claw movement to both hands - with devastating effect (he pulls the technique but you’re left in no doubt about the damage it would inflict). There’s another commenter here who has implied that the video is already too long but the simple truth is that I have (pardon the pun) barely ‘scratched the surface’ of the applications. 😊 Thanks for watching and your comment.
That's because karate has many influences, mainly from chinese martial arts from the chinese families who populated the Kume Village in Ryukyu kingdom.
That’s true. There was also the Okinawan expat community in Fujian training and generally the Kojo-Ryu system which borrowed heavily from White Crane in China.
My feeling is that Miyagi had exposure to many karate systems, including an exercise that came from outside the existing Goju kata comprising the hand movements now used in Tensho (a set of basics known in Juhatsu Kyoda’s To’on Ryu as “Rokkishu”). These resemble movements in Fujian Baihe styles and my conjecture is that they were practised in the Kojo Okinawan expat school which Miyagi would have visited during his trips to Fuzhou. But it is just my conjecture.
@@DanDjurdjevicplus Dan, pratio sam vas ranije na Fejsbuku, a od sad i na Jutjubu. Predpostavljao sam ,naravno da ste negde sa Balkana, odakle ste inače?
Sto se tice mawashi uke ,trenirao sam Uechi Ryu i tamo se zove Wa Uke u čast majstora Shu Shi Wa od koga je Kanbun Uechi ucio, izvodi se malo drugacije.
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You can explan everything with this technic. I respect this master. My question is, who was his teacher, theacher of his teacher to follow on the root. Everything thing seems to be ok and usefull. For ex: this technic is probably usefull for truck driver (steering wheel)😜. Yes you laugh, but for the driver it may be the best one. I prefere you to go to the birth place of karate and go for ex. to the „KARATE MUSEUM“ in Okinawa City. This is untill now the dojo of grand master Hokama. Pleas ask him the „ancient“ use of this technic 🧐-- Your yes will be open 😳 Or, you go to Motobu city at the north west of okinawa, and visit the old dojo of Uechi Kanbun. His successor are still there. You may see other explanation. Your yes will be big opener 😳 Or looking outside from Okinawa, for ex. You visite Yongchun County, Fujian (China). Just only asking for BÁIHÈ CHUÁN FÃ. You became other application of this technic too
Yes, I am sure that training with Hokama Sensei (who I have esteemed for many years) and with many other senior karateka would add to my knowledge and “open my eyes” to greater insights, adding to my 4 training visits to China and Taiwan as well as my training with senior Okinawan masters here in Australia, in Europe and in Africa over 43 years. I hope my current knowledge is useful to someone, even if it is a truck driver. My cross-referencing of Chinese arts and karate leads me to believe it is indeed also useful to martial artists of different schools. Thanks for watching and for your comment.
@@DanDjurdjevicplus The mistake everyone makes is believing that mawashi uke is a block and a strike. But the karate techniques are tuite (joint locks) and kyusho jutsu (strikes on vital points). Just look at the kata of the past and notice that their gestures are open hands (nukite, shuto, haito, etc.) that target specific vital points. But the modern karateka is convinced that karate is composed of kicks and punches. And this belief prevents him from understanding the real meaning of the kata. The meaning of mawashi uke is a joint lever. Juji uke o kote gaeshi o sankyo.
That’s one view. It certainly has joint lever/lock applications which I didn’t get into (another time!). However, I don’t subscribe to the now common view that all uke are really “locks, holds, throws, strikes… anything but uke”. And juji uke is still a separate technique. Thanks again for contributing.
@@DanDjurdjevicplus Советская военная разведка скорее всего изучала каратэ. Это можно понять из учебников по рукопашному бою которые были до и сразу после Великой Отечественной войны (из библиотеки Харлампиева, есть в интернете). На стиль Кадочникова похожи мягкие защиты вдоль руки противника. Про стиль Кадочникова я ради шутки сказал, извините если задел. Стиль Кадочникова не считаю особо качественным.
Hi, I am German and train Karate now for about 27 years. I merge Karate with other martial arts which I studied too (Judo, Jiu Jitsu, Arnis, Aikido, Wing Tsun...). This Explanation of Mawashi Uke is the best I have seen so far, because it builts the bridge between hard and soft Styles. Brdges are better than Separators! Arigato
@@Highlander88 thank you 🙏 for watching and for your comment! It is greatly appreciated!
Excellent... best explanation of Mawashi Uke I've seen in 59 years in Goju Ryu.
Thank you! 🙏 I’m glad you found it helpful!
I enjoy your supplying the critical details needed for applications.
Thanks - it’s my passion as a teacher.
A quality video covering many aspects. But mostly from a quality teacher.
Thank you! 🙏☺️
Amazing how one could make so much out of so little. 12 minute video on Mawashi-Uke..... congratulations you have out done yourself.
I’m going to take that as a compliment. Although the truth is, any instructional video on a fundamental technique in any discipline (say the minor pentatonic scale in guitar) would probably require more than 12 minutes to properly explain and explore its use.
@@DanDjurdjevicplus Like any waza in kata one can squeeze a huge number of bunkai from the details.
Very true!
You could make a video for a week and not cover this fully much inside this movement many techniques soft hard long short chi sau internal external cun na sealing the blood point work the list goes on and on and on.
@@mrvgranfield Yeah, Bet one could spend an entire lifetime developing endless bunkai for this one set of movement, make a whole career of it too - there'll always be people who will buy into it.
Great detailed explanation of what I personally think is the core of Goju Ryu
Thanks mate! 😊
I appreciate the concepts - food for thought
@@alpachinko9154 thanks for viewing and your comment!
Excellent explanation as always, Dan. Thank you for sharing.
My pleasure! Thanks Steve! 😊👍
Taken from classical (Woo Dip Jong) or butterfly palm this movement has many meanings 20 at least. The main yang version on shoulder hip push or yin clawing version pulling and throwing from the hip and shoulder the elemental movement splitting apart on the push is wood, the clawing movement is metal pulling together pulling the gripping parts retrieval .The push or the pull are diagonally across the opponents stance so they have no strength to resist.
Fascinating. Thanks for your input.
@@DanDjurdjevicplus Butterfly is a powerful (style) incorporated into Heung gar its one of the obvious types of combat on first appearance to appear easy to understand so it would of been quite alluring to the Japanese with a pocket full of gold and a shopping basket of techniques to take home to any clan. Butterfly would of been a typical nugget out of the many palms its fairly destructive and in no way flowery. Palm work takes a while to condition and most use a slap but this uses placement before the internal palm is used and I'm not sure if you have ever come across this because its the hidden method within this palm. I'm bound by oath so ill finish with this if a thick steak of 2" was placed on a table and a pulsed butterfly palm placed on this steak the back of the steak would look like mincemeat with no break of contact. Butterfly goes deep in skill and technique Hung gar wouldn't take on outside skills easily this shows great depth and quality .
I appreciate the part where you point out the proper position of elbows . Thank you
@@NCC1964 my pleasure! Thanks for watching!
Any thoughts on adding "claw' like moves to the technique?
I've seen southern chinese styles emphasise heavily on how they do a FuJow (tiger claw) or YingJow (eagle claw) as per their system.
I sometimes see Shotokan ways of doing palm or heel strikes and they almost never talk about clawing or Grasping, meanwhile goju Ryu has Saifa (tearing) Kata.
Japanese seem very stuck up about small details like fingers must be straight or together to look trim and pretty for a performance. But what if the performance of stunting their training or application ?
Yes, I haven’t demonstrated, but my brother likes to add the claw movement to both hands - with devastating effect (he pulls the technique but you’re left in no doubt about the damage it would inflict). There’s another commenter here who has implied that the video is already too long but the simple truth is that I have (pardon the pun) barely ‘scratched the surface’ of the applications. 😊
Thanks for watching and your comment.
Thank you. Appreciate your application cheers!
My pleasure!
Similar to tai chi, these movements appear to share the same backgrounds as lots of Chinese/ Japanese martial arts.
@@greenshifu yes, I regard them as fundamental movements.
That's because karate has many influences, mainly from chinese martial arts from the chinese families who populated the Kume Village in Ryukyu kingdom.
That’s true. There was also the Okinawan expat community in Fujian training and generally the Kojo-Ryu system which borrowed heavily from White Crane in China.
@@DanDjurdjevicplusKoto-Ryu? Goju-Ryu (剛柔流），not Kojo Ryu.
My feeling is that Miyagi had exposure to many karate systems, including an exercise that came from outside the existing Goju kata comprising the hand movements now used in Tensho (a set of basics known in Juhatsu Kyoda’s To’on Ryu as “Rokkishu”). These resemble movements in Fujian Baihe styles and my conjecture is that they were practised in the Kojo Okinawan expat school which Miyagi would have visited during his trips to Fuzhou. But it is just my conjecture.
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@@DanDjurdjevicplus Dan, pratio sam vas ranije na Fejsbuku, a od sad i na Jutjubu. Predpostavljao sam ,naravno da ste negde sa Balkana, odakle ste inače?
Sto se tice mawashi uke ,trenirao sam Uechi Ryu i tamo se zove Wa Uke u čast majstora Shu Shi Wa od koga je Kanbun Uechi ucio, izvodi se malo drugacije.
Dragi moj drug ❤
Način na koji vidim tvoj video je detaljan , savršeno objašnjen način kako što radi !
U jednostavnosti leži ljepota!
Svako dobro ti želim 🙏
I molim te ... bez naglih pokreta i bacanja po podu 🙏
Koliko su dobri tvoji videos... to je to 👏
You can explan everything with this technic. I respect this master. My question is, who was his teacher, theacher of his teacher to follow on the root.
Everything thing seems to be ok and usefull. For ex: this technic is probably usefull for truck driver (steering wheel)😜. Yes you laugh, but for the driver it may be the best one.
I prefere you to go to the birth place of karate and go for ex. to the „KARATE MUSEUM“ in Okinawa City. This is untill now the dojo of grand master Hokama.
Pleas ask him the „ancient“ use of this technic 🧐-- Your yes will be open 😳
Or, you go to Motobu city at the north west of okinawa, and visit the old dojo of Uechi Kanbun. His successor are still there. You may see other explanation. Your yes will be big opener 😳
Or looking outside from Okinawa, for ex. You visite Yongchun County, Fujian (China). Just only asking for BÁIHÈ CHUÁN FÃ. You became other application of this technic too
Yes, I am sure that training with Hokama Sensei (who I have esteemed for many years) and with many other senior karateka would add to my knowledge and “open my eyes” to greater insights, adding to my 4 training visits to China and Taiwan as well as my training with senior Okinawan masters here in Australia, in Europe and in Africa over 43 years.
I hope my current knowledge is useful to someone, even if it is a truck driver. My cross-referencing of Chinese arts and karate leads me to believe it is indeed also useful to martial artists of different schools.
Thanks for watching and for your comment.
Thanks !
@@johnpatzschke2967 you’re welcome and thanks for watching!
Excellente vidéo.
Morio HIGAONNA said :
Get the groin and throat with this technique,and pin the man at the wall 😂!
Yes indeed!
Try whit juji uke. Better.
Juji uke is a very different technique.
@@DanDjurdjevicplus The mistake everyone makes is believing that mawashi uke is a block and a strike. But the karate techniques are tuite (joint locks) and kyusho jutsu (strikes on vital points). Just look at the kata of the past and notice that their gestures are open hands (nukite, shuto, haito, etc.) that target specific vital points. But the modern karateka is convinced that karate is composed of kicks and punches. And this belief prevents him from understanding the real meaning of the kata. The meaning of mawashi uke is a joint lever. Juji uke o kote gaeshi o sankyo.
That’s one view. It certainly has joint lever/lock applications which I didn’t get into (another time!). However, I don’t subscribe to the now common view that all uke are really “locks, holds, throws, strikes… anything but uke”. And juji uke is still a separate technique. Thanks again for contributing.
Po pai - wing Chun
Yes - the double hand movement is really the same in karate, white crane and wing chun.
Стиль Кадочникова.
Я не слишком много знаю о влиянии Кадочникова, но мне известно, что советская военная разведка изучала каратэ.
@@DanDjurdjevicplus Советская военная разведка скорее всего изучала каратэ. Это можно понять из учебников по рукопашному бою которые были до и сразу после Великой Отечественной войны (из библиотеки Харлампиева, есть в интернете). На стиль Кадочникова похожи мягкие защиты вдоль руки противника. Про стиль Кадочникова я ради шутки сказал, извините если задел. Стиль Кадочникова не считаю особо качественным.
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