Changing a Timing Chain on a Chevrolet Captiva (Common Issue For the GM 2.4 Ecotec engines)
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- Опубликовано: 14 июн 2022
- Hey Good People,
I had a 2013 Chevrolet Captiva in the shop recently. I had to replace the timing chain which is a very common issue on these vehicles as well as other GM/Chevrolet vehicles that have this engine. I tried my best to make this a tutorial, but the camera stop filming for a little bit. I hope you guys are still able to follow along. Comment any questions that you may have.
Your favorite Mechanic,
Alex
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Hey Alex, I'm a tech myself. I appreciate the guidance. That's one I've never did,lol. I like the way you come across your videos, good job, and keep up the good work, there needs to be more like you!
I appreciate that!
Alex, I followed this video as a guide to do a timing chain replacement on a 2009 Malibu with the 2.4L Ecotec engine. I appreciate your attention to detail and explanations. The lower guide bolt had tore out the threads and I had to install a helical thread insert. The upper bolt was and still is missing, I assume that it fell into the oil pan. Thank you for so much for your help.
I'm a bit nervous about doing this to my 16 chevy equinox but watching this video has made me feel confident to go for it as a DIYer for the 1st time in my life but i just wanna make sure i have the right tools because i fell short on tools as usual initially when i had changed the oil/filter. However i replaced the vvt solenoids, 2 camshafts and the crankshaft position sensor. Thank You for posting this video and wish me luck
Spent the weekend replacing a loose timing chain on my 2012 Chevy Equinox. It went well thanks to your walkthrough! Big thanks!
My pleasure buddy i’m glad you was able to tackle it yourself saving tons of money.
@@AlexTheCarDoctor if my timing chain broke, you think is it worth it to replace it?
@weareanonymous333 just turn the crank a bit until it lines up
Alex…thank you so much for this video ! I followed it step by step to fix my daughters 2013 Captiva timing chain. Your directions, advice, and calming voice made the job go smoothly. I’m very appreciative that you shared your skills with us. Jeff from Iowa
I’m glad my video helped you. Thank you for watching
Thanks for taking the time to make this video. It shows how to do it in the real world, instead of some others who have the engine out on a stand and make it look like an easy 15 minute job. You show all the little things where something can go wrong and how to avoid some of the problems. Anyone seriously considering doing this job at home should watch and learn.
Once installed you give it a tap with a extension and a hammer. Put a rag between the extension and the tensioner to prevent metal on metal contact.
I don't understand myself as much as I hate having car troubles why am I watching Alex the car doctor? I guess job shadowing alex the car doctor is far more pleasant than my life is
Thank you for watching and supporting the channel 😎
Thank you, Thank you. I just finish doing the timing chain in a 2016 Chevy Equinox. It when well, I took the extra time to replace things that could be changed. And it turned out great. I look forward to seeing more videos.
Todays car Manufacturers need to recommend timing chain replacement same as cars with timing belt every 100k do to cheesy quality part they use.
Took an impact to my crank bolt. Battery powered. Ended up over tightening it and bent the spline on the crank. Thank you.
Just bought a 2013 Equinox. Will be driving it from Vegas to MN.
Will definitely keep an eye on the oil level. Check the amount of blow-by.
Fun fact, I haven't touched this vehicle yet. Brother-in-law did the leg work. Starts, and drives well. I'm not opposed to pulling the head and pan and replacing the low tension rings. I'm sure the oil return holes behind the oil rings are probably plugged just like my '03 Forester. They were plugged SOLID! Drill a drill bit to clean them out!
It has 150,000 miles on it. Will definitely check out the timing chain. No noticable engine noise at startup.
Thanks for the tutorial, I replaced the chain in my 184k 2010 Equinox. Spent less than $200 in parts and took my time. Had to use "the fix" for the top bolt of the one guide.
Alex, i love this kind of video. this is great. the other vids ive seen all have an engine setting out in the floor and they do a 20 minute timing chain swap. this "in the bay" replacement is priceless.
thanks for all you do.
Awesome, thank you!
Thanks a lot! I Appreciate the time you took in making this video.
17 Chevy Equinox premier NYC
Great video showed if doesn't go smooth how to fix it . the extra on the bent valves helpful. Got one that just quit and cranking fast on not start . Now know what to look for . Thank you.
Great video, Alex! Really helping me on getting started changing the timing chain on my Granddaughters 2012 Cativa sport 2.4L today 123995 miles. Reason for the maintenance, had rough low idle and rattle, but smooth running with any amount of throttle/power. I bought a code reader which came back P0016 and P0017 correlation. Which means timing chain is stretched/loose. So, I changed the oil and removed the VVT solenoids and found it packed with metal shaving specs, I did clean them and reinstalled them and ran the engine again, removed them they stayed clean. Thats one step everyone should perform, clogged VVT solenoids are not good and effect the VVT sprocket/phaser. And I bet they have metal shavings in them as well. And the metal shavings are guaranteed to be coming from the timing chain and its components.
So just to add to your fantastic video which I do appreciate, before you start Drain your oil. 😀 . I`ll post updates when done. P.S. Last time I did a timing chain/belt was 1998 on a dodge Omni. basically, same removing motor mounts and a lot of jacking around!
Update: After taking off the valve cover, everything looked good. Top guide looked great and from what I could see looking down into the engine looked good. Kinda worried where these metal shavings are coming from. Popped the timing chain cover off and low and behold parts fell out. The black timing chain guide was broken into a couple pieces. But the real reveal was the tensioner arm guide for the water pump/balancer chain. It was just lying there with no damage except it wasn't secured with a bolt. No bolt at all for it in sight. But the metal shavings was solved. The Balance Shaft Tensioner was just injected into the flopping chain. Will be dropping the oil pan now to look for parts. More $$$ for balancer shaft chain kit, and there is no oil pan gasket for these motors, so silicone purchase too!
Update:: All done! purring like a kitten! Thanks Alex! God Bless you! The lost bolt was actually stuck up somewhere in the chain out of site because it apparently fell after taking off the exhaust phaser. As I went back to take the intake phaser off, I noticed a bolt lying inside at the edge of the oil pan, it was the balance shaft tensioner guide bolt that was missing (yeah, no oil pan work.) Weirdly it was not damaged at all. You could tell the end threads were stressed though. I used the new bolt I got at the dealership instead when reinstalling.
Parts I bought and installed - Cloyes Timing Chain Set 9-4201SAVVT1, Cloyes Balance Shaft Chain Kit - 9-4202SA, Fel-Pro Valve Cover Gasket Set - VS50778R, Fel-Pro Timing Cover Gasket Set - TCS46079, Dorman OE Solutions Timing Guide Bolt - 917-954. = $676.95+tax. Other cost - magnet tool, new bolt, 24mm wrench, oil-filter, spark plugs, drivebelt, fender liner push-tabs and plenty cans of parts cleaner for a grand total of around $974.00 vs the dealership`s price of $1885.00+tax.
Tip`s and stuff I had trouble with.
- Main thing, Keep Alex`s video at hand to reference at all times! I subscribed! I watched the whole thing twice and probably switched to spots over 100 times.
- Drivebelt pully bolt, I`d like to kick the engineer who said, hey let's put an unnecessary long bolt here! Yes, it`s best to leave it there unscrewed as much as possible.
- Crankshaft bolt, stubborn rusted bolt *70*9^%!. Even though I only had an 18-volt Ryobi impact gun, the trick with it was patience, keep at it and holding the pully from moving at all.
- Balance shaft gears are a Bit$h to get off and put on. Hole punch in the indention did not work for me. Had to use a big threaded bolt to wedge the gears from spinning.
- Before Removing timing chain, make sure the gear marks and keyway (not the chain-colored links, 😄thanks for the phone call on that one Alex! 😄) are close to the required indexing's, exhaust 10 o`clock, intake 2 o`clock and crank shaft keyway at 12 o`clock in reference to the engine block not the car.
- Dorman OE Solutions Timing Guide Bolt - 917-954 was very hard to start the threads, be patient.
- Always prepare for knuckle busting on stuck bolts and cushion properly! 😄
- Any missing bolts can be bought at the dealership parts counter. But they are expensive, that one little bolt was $16+.
- If you have a free CarFax maintenance schedule account for your car and add these services performed, car value increases!
- All done with 3 jack stands and 1 floor jack!
Again, couldn't have done it without you or this video, Alex! Subscriber for life!
Thanks a million!
Brett
Alex. Great video. Great content. I'm glad you showed the process with the engine in the car. Like us regular guys would do it. Thanks again. !! Fat props.
My 08 Malibu at 96k miles timing chain jumped and broke, quoted 1800, then get a call that it was leaking down like you showed in your previous video :/ $3000 to replace engine. I’m going to move on from this nightmare! Thanks so much for the knowledge!
Awesome video .you really have a way with explaining things. Just letting u know on my 17 caddy that bent push rod. Changed the rocker arm an so far so good. Thanks for taking the time to help me out.
That’s wonderful keep me updated
Thank you for the video on the Captiva i changed mine today with no problem Thank you very much.
Fantastic video for this repair. Best one I have seen. Thanks for making it!
Thanks Alex for sharing this wonderful information with us 🇺🇸 damage that a time chain can do to a valve cover 😀
Great video, I am having a mechanic do this job, only because I am lazy. But I appreciate you and people like you that make videos for the masses! Awesome and Kudos to you!
Just curious
How much did your mechanic charge you
thank you so much Alex .. 100% step by step
What an amazing video. Sat here and watched it like a movie. Excellent Work! Phenomenal Content
Thanks for watching and the support it means a lot. I’m glad you enjoyed my video happy new year.
Awesome video. Exactly what I was looking for.
Best tutorial I ever watched. Thank you for your time and I love your positive attitude/vibe. I have this exact vehicle and it currently says on the DIC to "Service stabili trak", "Service traction control", and "engine power reduced". Chevrolet says I need to R&R the timing chain and gears. Thanks to your video, I am comfortable doing this myself, but my question so far is: How did you rotate the engine to verify all timing points lined up before you tightened your idler pulley, first loosen the idler pulley but then what? Thanks again for your time!
Hey there I’m glad you enjoyed my video. I verified everything by looking at the camshaft dots and crank dots to make sure they line up with the colored links on the chain then I install the crank pulley bolt in the crank without the pulley and then rotate the engine over two revolutions to make sure everything is smooth. I assumed you was talking about the crank pulley not the idler pulley
Thank you for this amazing video, was so helpful for me, I do the job today and everything was successful 👍
Glad to hear it buddy! Thanks for watching 😎
We have gone backwards, gone are the days where a timing chain used to last the service life of the engine, now commonly not much more life that a timing belt. May as well have timing belt.
Absolutely hands down a GREAT tutorial!! You take your time to explain why and what your doing and I love it. Only thing I noticed is right above the crank is a hole in the wheel well that if you don’t have a ratchet wrench you can slide a socket and extension through to get the tensioner off. Oh and a 32mm oil filter socket is great to use for the chain tensioner. I got lucky and had a set of short stubby oil filter sockets. That’s how I did it lol but I hope to see more of your videos! Again great tutorial!!
Quality was amazing, i've never seen such a detailed and helpful mechanical video. They are normally filmed in near darkness with loud music over them.
Great video, Alex. About to do exactly the same job with an Australian version of the Craptiva, as we call them. Thanks for your guidance on how to do the job, with engine in-situ.
Had to like and subscribe!! Enjoy your content!
Thanks so much! Welcome to the fam!
Thank you for sharing your experience. I am digging your presentation style. Subbed.
Welcome aboard! Thanks for the sub!
Hello I don't know how long it'll take you to see this message
Hopefully you've see it sooner than later. So your video is pretty good super super important step that is very vital you missed to put in there
Alex your the greatest that engine looks like an equinox maybe a 2013 2.4 4 cylinder you did a good job Dallas Texas thank you sir
im doing 0ne of these and your video help so much thank you
My pleasure buddy thanks for watching and I’m glad my video helped
Great video like how you walk through everything and have time to explain what is the reason your doing it like that or the tips and trick you got when you do the job ✅👍 but I did have one question where do you get the information to torque down the bolts
You’re like an engine you have to warm up properly lol that’s what happens when we get old my friend lol great video! You are a very good teacher :-)😊😊
Awesome video man, I took my car to mechanic for service and aircon regas found out timing chain needs doing on my 2.2 diesel but they don't do it now I know roughly how long it takes so I don't get scammed with 1000's in labour
You’re the best!! Love all your video!!
Thanks for the love and support I really appreciate it
Great video! Thanks!
Thanks for watching
Awesome Awesome Awesome video please continue!!!!! Great job!!!!!!
On point!
Thanks, you just made my day.😂
I just finished installing the tensioner and haven’t activated it yet but the chain is very tight already. It had some slack before I screwed the tensioner in. How tight is the chain supposed to be?
Hey Alex. Nice video. Would it help to put rags in the bottom at the top of the oil pan to keep parts from dropping in?
doing this right now to my sister's car. she had been driving hers back an forward to work an she had notice oil under her car where she parked it so thought it was a seal or something an when we started looking it was everywhere except for the top over the valve pan an as soon as we took all the plastic an got it out of the way we found it, it looks the same as urs an she had been driving the thing daily to work with it like this an all of the oil that was all over the motor was coming from the hole. when u would first start it up it would sling oil out an blow a cloud or mist of oil out an the plastic was just directing it all down onto the motor an it finally started accumulating enough that it started to drip an that is the only reason it was noticed so shes insanely lucky. we got it all pulled apart this evening an going to try to get it all done tomorrow or at least as much as we can, still havent gotten the replacement valve cover, it was way to bad to repair so had to get a new one an its not arrived in the mail yet so hopefully it will be here in a couple days at most. thanks for sharing this. been a huge help.
Hi Alex, great work! Can you please post the link for the blue digital torque wrench?
Wow I actually watched your repair from start to finish....Great Job!!!! Im thinking of buying a 2011 equinox with a stuck engine......i'm thinking its gonna need a new chain and cylinder head......or maybe a different engine.Great tutorial!!!!
Hey there and thanks for watching. If you mean stop by not rotating, most likely it’s going to be at the bottom end that seized up. And will require an engine replacement or complete rebuild.
@@AlexTheCarDoctor the owner indicated that it died at about 40mph.....said it was stuck....i haven't even looked under the hood yet. He's asking 700 for the car and it looks decent.....im thinking 2,500 for a used engine.
@@joeriver7994 that’s a good deal,what is the mileage?yeah that’s about right those engine are expensive
when i try to open the crankshaft bolt counterclockwise, the crankshaft pulley spin together with the chain and the phaser.. did you have to lock the pulley first or something? how do you do that?
Thank you , your a blessing sir
So nice of you to say that. Thank you .
Will this timing chain be the issue for stalling and p0011 code if the vvt solenoid and camshaft sensor have been changed but code and stalling continued
Thanks for this video my car is having the same problem
No problem buddy also I’m sorry to hear the bad news
Always best to set up 2 foldable picnic tables and layout all the parts and number the parts/nut/bolts during dissemble and keep them together as assign if you're a organize person. Makes things easier to have everything off the floor and away from the car. That way the reassemble process is easier.
I have a Saturn Vue, 2008, and a problem. There seem to be interference with the chain removal. The only way to remove the timing chain appears to require splitting the chain, Seems to run around some sort of castings. Have you ever seen this?
Great job Dr Alex! Thank you for sharing. Much appreciated.
Very thourgh video, nice job!
I took the cover rocker bolts out but one of them broke. After I could take it out I couldn't find the same bolt in the market. But when I saw your video in detail I could notice that you use normal bolts (my bolts have a metal collar with a rubber). Please guide me, how can I change it for a normal bolt like you.
I did exactly as youve done on the engine and the timing marks all lined up and you told me not to worry, but as i spun the crankshaft 2 times around they are no longer lined up on the timing marks or arrows. should I worry about this?
What would you do if cams gear timing marks aren’t in the 10 and 2 o’clock position?
Great video thank you. I don't think you showed lineing up tje groove in tje chain tensioner to the chain guide
I'm not judging I love what you do but you should have a little foldable table so you can set all of your parts on while you're working. Also you can use a cupcake tray for your bolts so you don't lose them and/or those magnetic bolt holder
No judgement taken buddy. This video is a little old. I’ve upgraded since then lol I got utility carts and tables now lol thanks for your support!
Alex, what if the charger 2.7 motor locked up, is there a way to unlocked it? If so can you make a video? I got a few that is locked up..trying to attempt to save it if I could!!thanks in advance!
What if it's already jumped time? If it backfired and then lost power could the valves or pistons get damaged? I am facing this issue with my 2013 captiva
Hello.good morning..have ypu another video replacing the water pump on this vehicle?
Could you please make a video on how to remove the oil pan on the c100 2.0 diesel?
Thanks good Vlog!
Hey man excellent video you are the best. I really want to know how much will be the cost to do a job like this one. Thabks in advance.
1967 Chevy Bel Air 283. Timing chain worn so much that it cut a hole in the timing cover. We thought it was the front seal. Still had the leak after replacing the seal!!
Thanks!
I appreciate it. Thank you!
What if I️ didnt double rotate the engine and my car is making weird sounds when I️ start it up? How do I️ fix it? Re time it and double rotate? What about the tensioners?
Might need balance shaft components as well the intake sprocket gets chewed up when the guides fail..there's also the 2 mounting bolts for the broken guide usually get damaged too.
Is there a part number or website where i can buy the parr to fix the top bolt to the black tensioner and the timing cover plug or should I just have it welded in the center of the inside of the timing cover plug?
Hey there It should be a link in the description let me know if you find it there
hi your honest opinion on mellig timing chain, oil pump engine parts
Hi Alex could you please put the torque settings on here please thanks for a great and helpful video cheers Paul
Thank you for the video
Does the oil have to be drained before the timing cover is removed? Your video doesn’t show it. But someone else did
Thanks in advance
Should I replace my water pump after finishing timing chain?
Would like to see Full Video on 2007 Dodge Charger 2.7 replace Rear main seal step by step Thanks
Thanks for the video idea
That is correct. If you don’t wrench every day, you should not use power tools to cinch the bolts back down. Because if you make a mistake and step that bolt off, you’re gonna be in a lot of hurt!
Does chevy 2013 have balancing shaft timing marks
Very similar to my alfa romeo 2.2 JTS (GM). Shame we don't have Cloyes in UK, I'm likely going to use INS or SKS. I wonder who makes the OEM chains?
It might be the same engine. Hopefully someone can answer your question, I’m not sure
Thanks for the video. I own a 2015 Chevy Malibu with the 2.5L Ecotec 4 cylinder engine. Does the timing chain on the 2015n suffer from the same type of wear and are the plastic tensioners also prone to breaking?
I have not seen a 2.5 yet with the timing failure hopefully GM fixed it
@@AlexTheCarDoctor Thank you for the reply. I am happy to hear it. 🙂
@Jonathan A I thought so I was not sure
@Jonathan A Thank you for further confirmation and putting my fears to rest over this issue! 🙂
how can i get the fuel injector clip off without breaking.
I believe my timing went out while the vehicle was sitting(dead battery) maybe while it was being cranked. If the timing jumps do I automatically need a whole engine? Nobody has actually taken the time to look at it. Just a crank and "You need a new engine"
First, just want to say thank you Alex for creating this helpful informative video. Any advice for check engine light that is still on after I cleared the codes and drove over 130 miles?
Hey there, my pleasure what is the check engine light code?
@@AlexTheCarDoctor p0016, p0011, p0017 I changed both sensors and solenoids before changing the timing chain and guides
How to measure the torque of the screw cap screws
Hello.what other vehicles use the same engine?
I agree taking bolts and screws out is the way. Captive plenum screws (I’m looking at you, MOPAR) really irritate me. Half a thread always catches when I try to pull it off and it takes three hands and some NSFW words.
It sounds like you are a good mechanic, how long have you been turning winches?
@@AlexTheCarDoctor I’ve been wrenching on my own cars for about 10 years. Working on other peoples’ cars for about 2 years. Opening the doors on my own shop up in the rusty north in about 2-3 weeks.
@@AlexTheCarDoctor I just realized that sounded a little irresponsible. I’m not going it alone. The shop will be a joint venture with my friend and mentor with far more experience with both wrenching and running an independent shop. All the older guys are retiring and the young guys are working at quick lubes and dealerships. There’s a hole in the market and the quality of work I’ve been seeing on cars lately really shows it so I’m trying to be the change I want to see in the world.
@@Leonarco333 you can do it man also start you a RUclips channel so us southern folks can learn a thing or two and conquer our fears on rust bucket’s.
@@Leonarco333 nobody’s ever successful by themselves someone help along the way in one form or fashion
I opened it and I found a pinata inside. I wanted to take off the oil pan but it is completely fixed with silicone😵💫. Some trick?
How can I move the sprockets if they moved
Hi Alex! That car work with that open top cover? Its amaizing.
Yep but that’s nothing I have seen baseball size holes in engine blocks and still run
"In case of need, any nearby object becomes a hammer." Would a 24 mm end wrench work to hold/turn the front cam? The top chain guide didn't seem to be destroyed, just from a passing glimpse. So I'm wondering how the chain got past it to chew on the valve cover. There's a saying, "Mechanics are born, not made." Some people enjoy this work and have a feel for it, while others don't get it at all. Your awareness that something was wrong when torquing the guide bolt puts you in the "born mechanic" group, I think. The excitement does fade some with fatigue and the passing of decades.
This is what I’m going through now and trying to get someone to do mine
Hey Alex I appreciate the step by step procedure. Quick question If the roller lifter has a slight play and does not come out of its position, and all compression is good do u think I can still do the timing chain?
Slight play is normal
@@AlexTheCarDoctor Really appreciate that, thank you! Love the content keep the positive vibez going!
do i really need to change sprocket? theres a cheaper kit, 9-4201sx instead of 9-4201sa, like 50 bucks difference
Alex what happened if I follow the guide just like you show up and the car steel don’t have power and it feels like is been held back?
You may have clogged up catalytic converter
I have a 2014 Buick regal T and it has a bad engine noise, I was told it sounds like the timing chain is slapping around. If it jumped time do I need to get a new engine or can I just replace the timing Chain.
hey bro idk if you still needa know but it may not have contacted between pistons and valves if not then dont needa redo the head
How do you keep the crank pulley from trying to turn when removing and tightening the crank bolt?
A impact gun is your best bet
I have this issue currently too
There's a specialty tool you can get, a harmonic balancer holder. You can use it for loosening and tightening to proper spec.
My balance shft chain rattling and i changed everything and still raddles idk why