Should Phil Spencer Leave Xbox?
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- Опубликовано: 10 июн 2024
- Xbox is not on top, is it time for a change in leadership?
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Guys he’s only been in charge for over a decade. We need to give him a little more time to turn Xbox around. 2029 is the year I’m feeling good about it.
Yeah I lost a lot of respect for Paris here. Like it is obvious they just don’t want to piss off one of their most high profile guests they have had on their shows so are trying to say he is doing a good job. Absolutely shameless.
The dominos are gonna fall, any decade now..... 🙄
No money Predo burnouts should not be in charge I don't think they're predatory behavior stops at the money
They're friends with Phil. Jim Ryan was resident LOLcow for saying no one would want to play old Gran Turismo games and other similar minor transgressions.
Its clear when someone wants to be charitable towards someone and when they're going in with an apathetic or hostile demeanor. They go through such hoops to be extremely charitable towards Phil Spencer.
Like the Jim Ryan thing. Let's look at his Gran Turismo statement with a more charitable lens: was he wrong? Who is playing old racing games when new versions exist? Has racing gameplay really evolved THAT much? Its all just visual improvements and quality of life improvements. The new version is generally the best version. Is anyone going back and playing Madden 98? If that were Phil Spencer, that's the kind of things they'd be saying
Phil Spencer business decisions is the reason Xbox was in this position. Gamepass has hurt them in the long run.
Hmm I wonder why it always seemed to good to be true?!?!? The best value in gaming falls on its face when the bill finally comes due and daddy Microsoft wants some money back. Gamepass was the worst thing to happen to Xbox, and it will be Phil Spencer’s downfall. Worst thing is, he can’t go back to charging full price. Xbox is going to slowly die into irrelevance.
@@basementality4924 when you essentially give your product away for free yet spend 100s of millions of dollars to make these games and don't constantly churn out content then the subscription model doesn't work
The Fact that Tango got shutdown is crazy, I would have thought that Tango would have been the last studio to close
To garys point about corporate greed vs art, he's right. Every studio in the world would take a guarantee of 0 Oscars for the next decade but 3 $1 billion grossing films every year instead.
Don't lie to yourselves, if the dceu came out exactly the same as it had in terms of quality and review scores but each movie made $900 million+, we would be on Zack Snyder's Justice League 4 by now.
Literally anyone could be in his position and it would still go this way. The rich shareholders are destroying the industry just to try doing their impossible idea of “sustainable growth”
People also forget that with Xbox being owned by Microsoft, Phil has a lot of people he has to answer to. A video I saw talked about how a higher-up probably looked at a graph and saw that Tango is currently less profitable than studios like 343 and told Phil to shut them down.
Not here to sing Jim Ryan’s praise. He got more shit for doing way less damage to the overall industry. Phil could genuinely feel bad, but he’s be the head of Xbox for 10 years and I can’t think of one time in that period where I felt positive about the brand. You know outside of Hi-Fi Rush: brought to you by a studio that just got the ax.
jim could actually get games out the door and knew when to cancel the ones that werent working phil is the opposite he struggles to keep studios running at a decent pace he fucking let ninja theory change engines half way through hellblade 2 development fable still isnt anywhere close to release what is he doing meanwhile everything playstation announced at the same time has come and gone
Sometimes, no matter how much you love a coach, if you're not winning championships, you have to let him go.
Didn't he come on this podcast and say I STAND BEHIND ARCANE AUSTIN?
Not even six months ago too IIRC
Money talks bud
Phil speaks out of both sides of his mouth frequently, he's no different than any other corpo exec (though not as good at his job it seems). The sooner people wake up to that reality, the better
He wasn't lying, he stays behind them keeping the door open as they leave the Microsoft building!
@SolidPython2099 this is the sickest burn I've seen thus far goddamn 🤣😭🤣
He's been there for way too long and he's changed absolutely nothing. They keep acquiring all these studios only to kill them a few years later. The fact that Tango was one of those studios that got the axe only proves one thing, Microsoft is incapable of managing their studios. If they killed one of their best studios that gave Xbox one of their best positive moments in YEARS, I'd be very scared if I were one of those devs still working for Xbox right now. We shouldn’t be excited when MIcrosoft acquires anyone, it's basically a death sentence at this point. At what point do we stop celebrating Phil Spencer? MS and Phil are creatively bankrupt and he should've stepped down a very long time ago.
Y’all wanted Jim Ryan gone for a lot less, while he was delivering exponentially more quality games and just making decisions you didn’t like
Yeah, people wanted Jim gone for saying old Gran Turismo games are ugly, and therefore, no one wants to play them. The truth.
But all this guy has to do is wear a gaming related t-shirt and everyone loves him
Цonder why Jim Ryan wasn't joining podcasts and said he's a gamer? Maybe he was doing the job he's supposed to do - managing PS studios to deliver games? Instead of going to podcasts, not do your job and appear as good guy.
Of course he does. He's the one that started the train of acquiring ABK and Bethesda. He asked for checks his talent couldn't cash and now Amy Hood/Satya have to step in.
The corporate CEO seems like a nice guy, so don't fire him! That would be too far!
Meanwhile, how many nice guys that work for Microsoft just got fired?
To use a sports analogy, Phil would have already or would be dangerously close to being canned. He means well, had great ideas, but he's not executing them. Have to make a change before it's too late. Microsoft spent $69 billion, there's no excuse to have to close companies.
I like how no matter what Phil can “do no wrong”. He’s a salesman. It shouldn’t even be a question, he should get fired 🤦🏽♂️ you guys always defend him I don’t get it what else he needs to continually show he isn’t turning around the Xbox brand to better. It’s a continually sinking ship that doesn’t seem to better at all under his leadership. He just knows how to sell to those who fall for it smh very sad.
I still like playing on Xbox over other platforms. Do I still trust Xbox yeah i still trust them to keep putting games out the games industry i don't trust. And should Phil be fired i honestly don't know and agree with what the crew said there.
"It could be worse" is not a good argument for somebodies job performance.
The amount of "Phil is one of the good guys" is absolutely pathetic.
"It hurts Phil as much as anyone" from the CEO of Microsoft Gaming, that's earning around $10 million a year for the last DECADE, when employees are struggling to get work and pay bills now, is a joke of a comment.
If there's a problem in the gaming departments, the buck stops with him. He's made the decisions that lead to these results.
The guy is a shark that you've misrepresented as a dolphin because you can't see past the interactions you've had with him.
I'm sure a ton of the other executives at Microsoft have people around them that swear they're great people too, but because they're just faces and nameplates to you, you'll say they're the problem instead. Why doesn't Phil take a pay cut like you ask every other greedy executive to do?
You can't say "Eat the Rich" and then rub shoulders and shelter the 1%. He's the face of this for a reason, he's a massive problem behind game output and now the layoffs.
The guy has to go.
Phil has fuck over so many people’s lives with these layoffs n these guys are like “He’s so nice”
I'm tired of seeing regular employees with families and responsibilities always taking the biggest hit. Too many layoffs this year. I'd like to see Phil and other VPs also take pay cuts as a way of assuming some responsibility--they steered the ship, but threw the crew overboard. Nintendo CEO Iwata took a 50% pay cut in 2013 to help pay for employee salaries and avoid layoffs.
And they'd still be richer than God.
2024 is the year for Xbox. I feel it in my bones.
I mean, I know I said the same thing in 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022, and 2023 were all the year they were poised to take an absolute W, but something just feels different about this year.
''Michael jordan dont worry about him'' 😂😂
lol. Of course Parris says no
The glazing is real.
Need to stay in Xbox’s good graces lol
Man Utd might win the FA Cup this season so there’s still a chance for Xbox 👀
What do we think of Tottenham??
Yes he does.
I want to say yes because, all XBOX had to do is build a console and support it with exclusive titles similar to Nintendo & PlayStation. But they were to ambitious.
Phil is the greatest used car salesman of all time. Selling these boys lemons for a decade and they still wont stop going to bat for him.
At this point yes, he started to do good things a few years ago but it’s just too many plates in the air for him to manage it seems
I mean even if he is a nice guy in real life or if he was secretly the last line of defense for these companies from being shut down from higher up it doesn’t change the fact that it still happened while under his leadership. Really all the people who have been running Xbox should be held accountable for how they’ve treated their talent. The whole AAA industry is heading towards a real issue where all these high budget games aren’t even living up to their own insane profit margins because they don’t come with a mall attached to spend extra money on. It’ll never happen anytime soon but we need someone who can fight hard enough to end this vicious cycle of hiring and firing just to strip the company for parts if they don’t make a fortune, most likely by straight up making these practices illegal. It’ll probably not start at one of these large publishers but will probably happen after we start getting $120 AAA games at base price once a year and indies will start picking up the slack and hopefully create worker owned businesses and unions.
Absolutely. Get someone in there that gets games out the door and has quality standards.
But
I do think Microsoft would fuck it up and put someone like Peter Moore
So keep him, for now
Tf is going on. I’m seeing RUclipsrs blaming Don mattrick from ten years ago. What about Phil Spencer man? Now Ms has taken over, but what about the last 10 years? He’s had time and obviously unlimited budget, and we have have heard almost nothing from the many studios that have been bought. The heck is going on at Xbox.
Michael Jordan don't worry about him - Greg 😂😂😂
bye bye phil, don't let the door hit you on the way out
Xbox deserves a critical eye from the industry. They've had the privilege of unconditional rosy optimism and blind trust from the industry for this entire console generation.
The narrative involving everything relating to this brand has been so overwhelmingly charitable that it honestly seems like a lot of these industry people are on Microsoft's payroll.
When people accuse you guys of being shills this is why. It's so obvious you don't want lose your access to Phil coming on the show.
I think that's very untrue, what they are saying is very valid
@@josephbonner8553I know it’s true and what you are saying invalid
@@Xzcvr then explain to me how, don't just try to insult me for no reason.
Gotta be honest, hard to trust the opinions here because Phil has been on the show and they have a relationship with him to some extent. Let’s assume the best and Phil is a talking head who has no say in what happens and he’s being told what to do. Cool. Then he should stop painting the future of Xbox as this creative arm. He def need to take responsibility for that.
Phil is not the problem shareholders are the problem
Yes
Phil’s vision has flopped and caused a lot of damage to Xbox and gaming in general time to go Phil you’re had long enough
STOP DRINKING THE PHIL SPENCER KOOL AID
xbox has brought in record number revenue gregg saying oh its because they bought activision they have to make money is such bullshit or else why buy them in the first place if that was the cause maybe they would make more if actually get content out
Xbox has all but died under Spencer. He should have been sacked years ago.
Replace him with Jim Ryan
the cope, how can you defend Xbox's recent moves
I think its insane that want leadership to be held accountable but not want to have Phil resign. Literally nothing he has done since being made the lead of Xbox has been a success. Real talk how many Xbox games can you say in the last decade since he has been in his position have been genuine successes? Not like an asterisk success but like critically loved without controversy that is a game you can only get on Xbox. Maybe Forza but even that has basically become white noise that people dont talk about. Hi Fi Rush was supposedly a major success.
But really the fact of the matter is nothing can be considered a success because none of their games actually sell. No one is buying Xbox games. And why would they. They turned Xbox into Netflix and now no one wants to spend more than $20 a month on their platform. When the phrase "Its a good game for Gamepass" started getting thrown around Xbox started to die as a major player. The whole point of games costing $60 and now $70 is because they need to make back development costs. Xbox games dont do that. This is a major problem. And then you have all the wasted money and effort in all these projects that are either getting cancelled or are taking way to long to develop.
At this point Phil does need to be fired. He isnt making the company money. He isnt making the shareholders money. Xbox Leadership isnt doing anything except walking around with their hands in their pants not having a clue how to run a company. And then are shocked when they have to lay off hundreds of people every 4 months. Xbox's strategy isnt even to make games anymore. They spent the last 5 years literally just buying studios that were working on stuff in an effort to make sure Playstation couldnt have those games on their platform. They are trying for mutually assured destruction. It doesnt matter if they are mangled and bleeding as long as their competition isnt doing better than them.
And the frustrating thing about all of this is that even after all of acquisitions and layoffs Xbox still doesnt have any games worth being excited about. And I mean truly excited about. Hellblade 2 comes out in like 2 months and we barely know anything about that game. We saw 1 probably fake trailer years ago and that is it. The people who got a chance to play it werent really impressed. Avowed might come out this year. Who the hell really knows. Fable has been in development limbo with like 5 devs working on it at different times. Hell we dont even know anything about that super secret AAAA game that they have like 3 of their major studios working in tandum with. Not a code name. Not a description.
I want Xbox to do good. I want it to succeed. But it cant do that if the people who are running it are constantly slamming their dick in a car door and the fans are calling it a genius move. Phil Spencer has got to go. Sarah Bond has got to go. Matt Booty has got to go. Mike Ybarra has got to go. All of the Xbox leadership has failed not only the company but the audience and we cant keep excusing it because they seem like nice people when they get interviewed. These are millionaires who will leave everyone working under them destitute if it means saving their own skin.
I know exactly how this is going to play out. Phil is going to get on twitter and talk about how it wasnt an easy decision to lay off all those people. Maybe he announced one of their leadership podcasts where they talk about what is going on moving forward with Xbox (very unlikely). The Xbots are going to make excuses for why all those people being laid off was necessary. And then everyone is just going to move on like nothing happened until the next time the same thing happens because nothing has changed. We are gonna be mad. Get on twitter and talk about how unacceptable it is that this keeps happening and nothing will change. And they cycle will keep going on and on.
Im really just over it at this point. Im over Xbox getting a pass for not even doing the bare minimum. Im over Xbox leadership just being allowed to ruin people's lives and the worst that happens is people are mean to them on twitter for like 2 days. Im tired of games media giving their hopes and prayers to the people effected by this kind of stuff but then next week go back to jerking off Xbox like it is saving gaming. It all needs to stop.
Terrible news to hear and another black eye for xbox. I hope xbox and the employees bounce back. Also this episode really makes me miss the xcast
Video game industry crash 2023 2024
Corporations suck.
That’s way I sold my Xbox barely any decent 1st party games this year
yeah get rid of
YES
It’s been close to a decade and Xbox has barely anything to show for all that time. It’s time for serious change
Hopefully Gamescast can get Phil on again soon with Mike to press him about the hard stuff. I think we all know that Phil isn’t the type of person to want to do this. He loves games. But I think we also wanna know the thought process behind this decision. (Arkane was more expected than Tango to me) but I would still love to know why this happened.
Zero chance anytime soon
Mike is to big of a fan. Put Gary whitta on it.
@@basementality4924 Mike pressed him the perfect amount about Redfall, Mike has his priorities straight when need be
He needs to go.
He should have been gone a year ago.
A rising tide lifts all boats, which has been proven to be a myth. Can we stop regurgitating that talking point?
Don Mattrick literally did such a horrible job that Phil is STILL trying to clean it up.
Stfu using don mattrick name clown
Phil Spencer ruined xbox more than Don Mattrick. Atleast Don Mattrick left some good launch exclusives and greenlighted some good games for xbone.
While Phil SPENDER didnt even HAVE a launch lineup for xbox series x.! This NEVER happened in the HISTORY of gaming industry.
for an entire DECADE he slowly and steadily KILLED xbox.
1. Gamepass
2. Day and Date PC
3. NO games for a decade
4. then buying up biggest 3rd party publishers to get SHIT games like Starfield, Redfall lmaoo
Also Nintendo launched WiiU a BIGGER disaster than xbone launch and launched Switch in 2017, which is on track to beat ps2
Meanwhile horrible Spencer had 2 generations back to back and NOTHING to show for it
It’s been 10 years since Don left, at some point u gotta own that L
You’ve got to be trolling. It’s been 10 years.
What a loada rubbish! It's time Phil Spencer was given the boot. Utterly ridiculous interview. Xbox has become embarrassing.
what the fuck is this shoehorned football analogy
All of them do!
I doubt he was personally responsible for what happened with Tango, but Xbox clearly isn't his place anymore. If he really cares about Xbox, then he needs to walk out.