Connor's Problem with Nier Automata
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I'm pretty sure when you start Nier:Automata, it says, " This game does not support auto-save. Play the game to find out how to save."
And if you're dying in the tutorial, that's a different problem
@@GeneralGroggySounds like a skill issue to me
@@lawrence8015 I personally just felt bored during it and only died at the very beginning when I underestimated how much damage the balls would do.
Ngl I find it funny that some people felt that beginning of nier was hard
I also died in the tutorial and got annoyed when I restarted (picked hard difficulty).
So, I understand Connor's experience very well.
Connor dying in the turorial? Skill issue
The demo was better - the entire opening setpiece would restart if you died. It's honestly what got me hooked on the game, it was punishing, almost like playing a roguelike. It helped that the music was great & you constantly improved on the combat until you make it through to the end.
I was actually *disappointed* that in the full game, that sequence has a handful of checkpoints.
Fr it's so easy if you can't beat it lower the difficulty because that's the easiest part
Lower the difficulty and then raise it after the tutorial. That's what I had to do to really enjoy higher difficulty because that chainsaw fucked my shit up like no tomorrow. On normal, it was baby shit.
Skill issue is such a redundant phrase
@@darth_hylian why
Bro couldn’t get past the tutorial…
To be fair level 1 A route fresh is kinda a bitch. You get bullet hell, then run into a boss fight in a totally new 3D combat Action JRPG style, then you have to clear like an entire Dungeon crawl afterwards.
Connor: "The Gamer" of the group
Also Connor: gave up instantly after failing the tutorial
@@charlesacker9174i played this game on 25fps on 480p resolution on shit laptop.
the tutorial isnt hard at all lol
@@barghest8763 Play it on hard mode, when I first started I was like man it cant be that hard, everything one shots at hard mode. SO i spent like 2 hours on tutorial and then gave up and played on normal lmao
The tutorial is probably the most difficult part of the game.
I wouldn’t necessarily call it difficult, it’s just that you get more going for you later on, abilities weapons etc., whereas you have only the bare minimum for the tutorial.
And dying isn’t as punishing later on.
Connor was me when I started Nier Automata, got really pissed when I died and had to restart. But I didn't quit. Ended up sobbing when I finished the game
Restarting the intro from the beginning is also narratively important because of 2Bs Intro monolog, as well as the games general themes.
It's unfortunate that some people just don't get it when they die, restart, and then hear 2B talk about the never ending spiral of life and death.
I mean I guess if you're new to the game that writing might go over your head a bit. Then when you finish it and understand just how good the writing is, then something like that intro monolog might click for the player like "ohhh now it makes sense"
Just finished all 26 endings and the dlc ending today morning I feel you man
@@trevorveillette8415 I had the same reaction as OP, I have kids so time is limited to game. Having to restart the tutorial after dying to Marx pissee me off a bit until I listen to the opening monologue and understood what the game was doing. Just finished ending C last night and I'm unintentionally going for 100%
Connor doesn't mind void stranger or jump king when it has a lot of repetitive replaying going on but blames nier automata for replaying a tutorial is crazy.
I don't mind getting tackled when playing rugby because it is a part of the game, but definitely minded it if I get tackled/bodied when playing basketball. It is just unnecessary and worsen the experience.
That's because Jump King is designed to be a difficult game, where climbing over and over is expected. Nier: Automata has no such excuse. The tutorial it has offers no expectations of such difficulty, making the need to replay it a greater inconvenience and annoyance.
@@Dragonpit All I hear are excuses. Unironically a skill issue.
@@dylancross1039 Your mom is a skill issue. 😜
@@Dragonpitnot being able to get past the tutorial is a major skill issue.
The funniest thing about Nier is that the only reason it exists is because it’s a continuation of the alternate/secret ending of the Drakengard games. The creator really could make any ending canon at any time lol
I think I read somewhere yoko taro mentioned that any 2B collab appearance is also canon
@@hijiriyukari that’s also true, which is also funny because she’s in the game Rainbow Six Siege as a skin lol
That's how things work? Creators can make any ending canon.
@@itsgonnabeanaurfromme That's why it's called "word of god", since there's nothing we mortal fans can do to oppose them.
@@itsgonnabeanaurfromme well duh but that’s not my point. My point is that it’s funny and silly that there’s so many endings and any of them can matter.
Me seeing the title: YOURE WRONG CONNOR!
But actually!
Literally 😭😭
I was clicking thinking "I have lost all respect for connor"
Then when I hear it's because he couldn't get passed the tutorial it became "oh he's just a stupid baby then".
I lost some respect for him but in a different way.
@@trevorveillette8415 He's the type of guy to play on game journalist difficulty
@@dylancross1039 he's the least interesting of the 3 for me to listen to because he's less into both games and anime. The 1 thing I do agree with him on is that milf hentai is elite
Connor... Believe us. Yoko Taro is less of a Troll in the Nier endings than he is in Drakengard. Have him play the joke ending of Drakengard 1 and the True ending of Drakengard 3 to feel how much of a troll this mad man really is.😂
I don't think troll is a good word for it
Anyway, I wish yoko taro would get back to his drakengard roots cause most stuff he does is just childs play
Me clicking a new video telling myself
“*sigh* that’s why they’re called trash taste”
Useles trivia, since you mentioned both Nier and Finland in the same sentence: during the Tokyo Olympics, the song that played during Finland's entrance was Song of the Ancients from the original Nier.
Thats fuckin sick
I've been trying to find the moment but couldn't do you have a video/link where I can see it?
@@Khalil_B Just search for Tokyo Olympics 2020 Opening Ceremony and there was a comment thread of time stamps.
I REMEMBER THAT
Never forget Nier only exists because of one of the meme endings to Drakengard.
Everything is (potentially) important.
I won’t call that a meme ending - it’s too hurtful.
Connor is just making sure that the podcasts name is taken seriously
The most basic explanation is you play 2B’s perspective and then you play 9S’s perspective, after that, you get the continuation of their perspective in A2’s perspective, thats it
Outer Wilds is another great example of knowledge-based games rather than levels
Why "another"? Is that the topic?
Ps. It's the best game
Dying over and over again in outer wilds is so frustrating tho, but I like the game concept
@@jodanjo4295 nothing about is frustrating, cause it's implemented into story and game loop
Outer Wilds is *THE* ACTUAL BEST GAME I've ever played and everyone who's reading this should go and play it without looking up anything about it other than:
- It's in space
- It's a knowledge based puzzle game and will require you to think by yourself to progress
- Everything and anything is a spoiler.
Also the DLC is another masterpiece, somehow...
@@Exel3nce Nah dude Outer Wilds can get frustrating for sure. I absolutely love the game, but there were points where I was stuck and kind of annoyed.
It is 10000% worth it though.
Connor wouldve been the type of guy to buy a 1/4 pound burger over a 1/3 pound burger, thinking it was bigger because 4 is bigger than 3
Thats a real story btw, a&w sold a 1/3 pound burger in the 80s that flopped because of this reason
It literally does not matter how many endings the game has when in reality theres really only 2 endings based on 1 decision at the end of the game, in reality reality though just 1 true ending that just requires you to play the game to the end
Connor really is the type of guy to get confused when there's more than a handful of components to anything
Speaking of NieR Automata? I can't wait for the anime adaptation 2nd part (hopefully) still coming this year.
Nier Replicant/Gestalt and Nier Automata are such fucking good stories. Gameplay (at least in the remake of replicant) is very serviceable but both blew my mind and my nuts
Not automata, sadly
@@Exel3nce this is your 3rd comment trying to disrespect Automata and now it's on story of all things????
The story is even better in Automata than in replicant/gestalt so what is there to complain about exactly? It's got all the sad, depressing, emotionally torturous and psycholically distressing aspects you could want in a yoko taro game.
This and the chrono trigger discussion is a good advertisement to get Connor, the boys and the TT audience to just play in stars and time. Story and characters aside, the quality of life improvements in the gameplay alone make it worth it.
Damn, this is the worst case of "Skill issue" I've heard in this year.
Honestly it just gets boring having to replay a whole tutorial again, it’s more so the gameplay
@jaswanthvardireddy2243 if you learn the intuitive gameplay it's no issue
The “gamer” can’t make it past the tutorial 😂😂😂 certified clown award this year as well
Tbf he did beat darker dungeon which most people in the comments could never beat. So its weird this is where he draws the line
I have a feeling connor would just skip the cutscenes. I don't want him to play it
I legit just don't watch any of his stream playthroughs since he played MGR and was complaining throughout it's entirety, didn't like any of the over the top cool action cut scenes and just called everything stupid but a lot of those moments got cut out of the RUclips portion of the video, same for ff7 and 8
Finland devs do create some fucked up but great games.
Clash of Clans has truly ruined so many lives
Sauna 2000 changed me forever indeed.
Max Payne 1 and 2, Alan Wake and Control. All brought to us by those lovable weirdos at Remedy Entertainment.
Ultrakill, Fear and hunger, Cruelty squad, Lakeview cabin/ valley series...
My summer car 💀
Them referring to Finland as a Scandinavian country was like a needle stabbing my ear.
Nier Automata is my favorite game.
Nier Replicant is my favourite. Both amazing!
@@driedupgoliathan Replicant is so fucking good
@@masl2kas much as i love Automata Replicant is better
@@DecimatedSoul it obviously is
Nier Automata is a masterpiece , what a beautiful game, the anime is good too
Its just good
Yall praise it too much for being labeled as a "masterpiece" when it's great at best.
I stopped taking Connor seriously as a gamer the moment I heard him complain about stories in games for the first time.
He is currently playing FF14, if he finishes that game I'll give him a lifetime pass for skipping and story for other games. FF14 is 70% story and 25% game play.
@@lelelekop What's the remaining 5%?
@@lelelekop he's skipping all the dialogue in ff14 so I don't count that as him playing but him being forced to play also he said he would play it once a month which is really hard to believe 'cause bubi also said he would stream once a year and now whatever happened to that statement lmao
Same here but for me he lost all my respect when he said he hates games that have Voice acting in general lmao, which is like 90% of games,because "he is forced to listen to it", but he likes games that don't have it because he can voice the characters himself on stream and give them goofy voices which I really don't like
@@closetBK1350 I think he probably joked about that, but yeah, it's a bit of a dick thing to say. 😅
To be fair, it did take me like 4-5 tries to get past the tutorial at first. Once I figured it all out, it was a piece of cake. Still easily one of my favorite games, both gameplay and story wise.
Gameplay is relatively ok, nothing special
@@Exel3nce it's actually really special gameplay.
I think you're forgetting that gameplay is not just combat, but every way that the player interacts within the game. Even a sprinting animation or movement speed is part of the gameplay, and Automata has the best sprinting animation out there for any game.
But big key aspects of gameplay in Automata are it's multiple changes in genre, and it's multiple changes in camera.
There aren't really any games out there that you can play 3rd person hack n slash beat em ups, and LN/VN in the same game. There's also arcade shooters, top down and side scroller shmups, top down and side scroller hack n slash, platforming, lite puzzle solving.
That is an incredibly unique gameplay variety and formula. The only other game I've seen do it is NieR replicant, but that just makes sense anyways because it's the same director.
Then there's the dynamic camera system that's genuinely the best camera work done in a video game. Again, there's practically no other games out there that switch camera perspectives on the player, let alone frequently, fluidly, and dynamically. That's a huge aspect of gameplay, and while playing, it was a very charming part of the experience.
And like I said the animations are part of the gameplay too, and NieR:Automata has some of the best animation work in the industry, combat or otherwise.
The combat is also incredible. It's very easy to pick up but difficult to master, which is the perfect type of combat system.
The only actual problem one could reasonably have with the combat is that while these amazing combos are possible, enemies just don't have the health a lot of the time to be able to withstand the damage you're doing. Otherwise it's an infallible combat system.
Totally agree with Conner about Finnish games and I'd add Polish games as well. I remember playing Darkwood for the first time, picking up an item that was written in Polish and thinking "Oh fuck, this game is going to be bleak" 😂
This video should be renamed "Connor keeps chasing that high for Finnish games"
since they spent 3/4 of the video talking about that instead of Nier
i like playing the games on the hardest difficulty and playing the tutorial on hard has had to been one of the most frustrating experiences i’ve had ever had, the worst part is that i had no trouble for the rest of the game on the hardest difficulty
That's the thing isn't it? The rest of the game's combat is horribly easy but the tutorial is weirdly more difficult than most any other part. Everyone who seems to love Nier Automata seems to also be raging a-holes based on the comments just because Connor refuses to play the game with an annoyingly long tutorial that will punish you pretty hard if you fail even once. I liked the game but I can totally understand him dropping the game because of a terrible first impression.
@@alanchung6843 I think the criticism Connor gets for this is entirely warranted. Being mad at a game because it's hard on the "hard" difficulty mode is the epitome of stupidity. It's harsh, but true. He could've lowered the difficulty if it was such an issue. I guess his ego got in the way, but that's his own personal issue - not the game's.
It's like dropping Elden Ring because you kept bashing your head against the wall, trying to beat the Tree Sentinel right off the bat instead of exploring around. If you blame the game at that point, it just makes you look like an idiot, right?
I'm highly recommend to play outer wilds.
It's hard to sell this game to someone, avoiding spoilers as much as possible, because you're progress in game is based on knowledge.
It is si-fi. It is about space. It's about the fear of space.
Dont waste your energy. None of the people will touch it
I played it because a friend recommended me to without giving any context of why, but I couldn't get into it. I felt like there was too much dialogue and story which overwhelmed, plus the fact that most of that knowledge was kinda pointless on my first travel made me take a break and never play it again.
Might give it a try again when I have nothing to play though.
I feel like Connor is just the "newer" version of Arin Hanson whenever he talks about games. Then again, you could argue all of Trash Taste are this way since its technically their brand but even after all this time, I'm still genuinely baffled by the things they say. Funnily enough, I don't find them annoying or irritating just because they hold a different opinion but I do find the people they attract to be that way. It happens every time someone wants to agree with a contrarian opinion. Suddenly everybody has something to say about the thing that's called good but is actually bad or vice versa because the funny internet podcasters decided to share their unpopular opinion. I wouldn't mind it as much if people didn't come off as tools and pricks, acting like they've held the right opinion this whole time and that everyone else was just blinded by something or other. You can have a discussion about the quality of something without starting right out the gate with stupid arguments like "its for pseudo-intellectuals". The entire comment section is half people dunking on Connor and half calling Automata trash or just bad with no real room for discussion. Its asinine
after seeing this, I wonder if Connor would ever try out La-Mulana. for having the inspiration of MSX games with Maze of Gallious, the game does not hold your hand at all with controls that take time getting used to, the dangers of exploring ruins filled with dangerous traps and the puzzles being very subtle and that you have to rely on the stuff you find to progress and learn about the story really make it a pretty unique Metroidvania that, despite the supernatural stuff; in terms of discovery and traversal, actually showcases the real life perils of archeology and exploration of the unknown very well.
Still better than playing the whole Drakengard series.
FML for 100% that nightmare.
Skill issue Connor. Skill Issue
I don't know anything about Void Stranger, but after finishing Zero Ranger by the same devs, I have full confidence it's gonna be cool as hell, and I'm also already done with its bullshit.
i would watch a 3 hour stream of just connor dying in the tutorial
not surprised monkeybrain can’t compute Nier:Automata. Man’s giving up one of the best stories written, for the hardest boss in the game ever.. the tutorial. Clearly, anything involving the game would go over their head with the amount of brain cells they have.
This and one of thr best stories? That is silly, friend
@@Exel3nce have a right to be wrong. Game is much more than 2B existing.
@@Trickstar117 it's undercooked and shallow on so many aspects, and pretty tame compared to his other games.
Its his most known game and therefore his most praised one, but not really justified
@@Exel3nce imagine a combat system that actually worked vs.
Previous games where the warning is.. you play it for the story. Not the jank combat.
@@Trickstar117 Combat is perfectly fine, despite being the weakest platinum games combat.
But also not talking about gameplay
It took me around 60hrs to complete all endings.
I despise the saving system in Nier Automata, but it would ruin some of the themes and points the game is making (and their impact) so I wouldn’t change it, even if it means hating playing the game in the second half.
It wouldn't impact anything, really
@@Exel3ncehe explained why this is wrong and u still disagree
@@jaswanthvardireddy2243 he gave out points, yes, but they wouldn't matter at all cause noone really cares about that mechanic, meaning its impact is the same
@Exel3nce how are you guys having any saving issues in Automata.
The only situation where it's potentially viewable as a negative is the intro. But the intro is like that for narrative and thematic reasons tied to 2Bs intro monolog.
The rest of the game has no issues with saving. Not even once did I have issues saving my progress. Go to a save point, that's it. How hard can that be for you?
Any issues with saving in NieR:Automata are because of player error.
@@Exel3nce if “no one” is referring to yourself, you’d be right
I died like 10+ times in the intro, but that's because I decided to play on Hard and had never played a game like it before (so skill issue). Still my favorite game of all time, all I have left of the series in Drakengard 1 & 2.
The first drakengard is an absolute bitch to play, just like persona 1.. yet it's still worth it in the end
He should really play it i would watch it
I see a Connor opinion on a game in the thumbnail and I already know it’s gonna be bad.
The biggest L i seen for Connor
I love Nier:automata but still think the difficulty setting is absolute shit. The gap between normal and hard is so incredibly wide it makes no sense
The best way to describe nier to me is the three endings are basically three different play throughs you play as three different characters for each endings and you play through their part of the story and they all make up one big story.
If he likes weird games, then Death stranding is up there
These guys rose up :)
Supereyepatchwolf mentioned
Finland mentioned .... torille
Idk what you did in the thumbnail but Connor looks like he's 50
only issue on hard mode in nier was the no lock on
2:53 wdym? Unless I'm missing something there are actual 3 different endings you can choose A2 or 9S or get ending E
Admitting he can't even get past the tutorial, lacking skill
the difficulty is pretty messed up, the tutorial is probably the hardest part since you don't have upgrades yet
while i like the game i think during Route B Conner would get a little annoyed by the repeating Storybeats. Imo would prob. not enjoy it bc of that and the storydriven elements like VN Noval parts ect. I would def. Watch thou.
I think people that would be irritated by Route B genuinely have a lower brain function. There are so many small details in the game that changes the way you understand its world (like they mention). Route B specifically humanizes robots such as Simone to completely change the way you perceive your actions.
The true ending of automata is something every gamer should experience. To bad lil bro couldn't get past the tutorial
Connor cutscene skipper didn't continue with nier?! :O
I stopped playing about 3 hours in. Just got lost and didn't know what to do or where to go. I liked the self-destruct skirt delete trick though, lmao.
How did you get lost with a mini-map marker telling you where to go at all times?
Got the first ending, started the "second run" but got bored quickly with the gameplay, and the story didn't carry the experience enough to stick with it.
You died in Automata? Bro...
connor is such a casual
They still got it wrong, the story continues when you play as the character called A2, it’s not about replaying it again.
Those are potential spoilers, but yeah they could've worded that part differently
sounds like life
The Finnish version of Nier may offer extra two hours of playtime... it takes that much longer to finish all the dialogue.
Just realized that i hype up this game so much but I never actually finished it. Which is kind of hilarious because it's been on my mind ever since I started playing Stellar blade.
I played NieR Automata on hard mode for my playthrough and that tutorial mission was a pain in the ass, tring to get to the first save point. I finally did it in like 12 hours of constantly replaying the opening. However, the experiences that I had afterwards and the feeling of seeing each ending is irreplaceable. All the effort that I put into the game felt rewarded.
maybe he didnt know you can slash or shoot the balls, but the blackish ones cant, if he just keeps evading and not slashing/shooting the balls then completing the tutorial really would be hard
Thank god Garnt jump in and explain the endings part. Joey is making it sound like the most boring shit ever
I had to grind the tutorial for multiple hours because I wanted to play on what I think was the second hardest difficulty. The whole rest of the game, while not easy, never compared to how hard I found that beginning part. You just don't have many tools at that point.
DAMN SHOUT OUT TO VOID STRANGER!!
Ultrakill, Noita, fear and hunger, cruelty squad. Someone check on finland lately? I mean they cookin' but...
For real though if connor wants to share an experience with viewers in games they likely havent played then hes gotta try Lunacid. Maybe Dread Delusion (released today)
They should play Tunic.
Zelda like exploration. Soulslike boss fights.
It came out in 2022 but relatively few people have played it
Tunic was everywhere. Many people played it
I'd 100% watch Connor stream NieR. I fully believe he'd love the story by the end of his playthrough.
I never beat Neir Automata because after dying three times far into the prologue I decided I didn’t want to restart a fourth time and I’ve been putting off playing it ever since. I know I can get past it, it just kinda feels tedious replaying it again at this point.
I have two issues with the game :
- As much as replaying the game from a different perspective is interesting on paper, there was A LOT of unnecessary repetition with nothing different.
- Many sidequests are tedious and there's a lot of backtracking involved and sometime there's not even anything interesting going on in those quests.
Nier Automata has a lot of unnecessary padding that distracts me away from what the game is actually about.
He got killed in tutorial. 😂
Connor dying in tutorial is kind of funny.
wtf are they yapping about just call them chapters
Someone get this man a copy of Drakengard
I would like to play Neir but is it really story focused? I m very gameplay driven and I can't stand long extended cutscenes
I guarantee you 95% of people end up praising the story over the gameplay. That said there are many different playstyles and enough progression to keep gameplay fresh. Watch the first hour or 2 of gameplay and you will know if its for you or not. 😊
There's a ton of gameplay. The cutscenes are also the best cutscenes I've seen in a game.
They're used more for important story moments than to show off some action sequence or dialog that could've been had during gameplay.
Cutscenes are fairly paced and not overly lengthy, but use their time to communicate important moments in the story.
Play drakengard first
Wait. The way they’re talking about it makes me think they only did endings A B and C and not D and E which are like…. The real endings
Yeah but C D E are packaged together at the end. Once you hit C you practically crossed the finish line
My PS5 loves to crash randomly so if a game doesnt have auto-save i dont play it sadly
Connor needs to play the goat
When will Connor start Black Souls???
Play Automata Conner 🙏 shi will be fun
It's a day ending in -y, time for a Connor bad take
Dont let this man play The Zero Escape games.
connor. i will fight you and win RAAAAAAAAAAAH
Did people really dying during the tutorial of nier automata lol
The demo was better - the entire opening setpiece would restart if you died. It's honestly what got me hooked on the game, it was punishing, almost like playing a roguelike. It helped that the music was great & you constantly improved on the combat until you make it through to the end.
I was actually *disappointed* that in the full game, that sequence has a handful of checkpoints.
John Blackthorne's Problem with Nier Automata
I had a controler with delay and got ending w like 4 times bought a new Soo easy
Hes on the cusp of playing one of the greatest games ever made with one of the best stories ever told, he just has to get past the tutorial.
Connors Problem Indeed.
Just have him play Nier Replicant if he loves blocks so much
Everything Connor is saying about Void Stranger, Fear and Hunger, and crazy Finnish game devs makes me think he would really enjoy Noita.
Man, sheepbots really think Conner has the most valid opinion
I feel like Connor secretly hates video games with a passion and he just trolls everyone with his opinions on them
I feel like this entire clip is mostly not about Nier Automata?