@@kaleoy7584 i do know that there are many introduced animals in Hawaii that never would have made it here had they not been brought over by people. the point is, if the Nene made it here by themselves, that should give them priority.
It was negligent people that let the cats free to be stray. Nene goose are native, cats are NOT! They're lucky that people don't shoot them! For those people that are cited for feeding the cats, make them take the cats home and take care of them! Microchip the cats and make those people responsible for them! One question you ask the protestors, which animal is on the endangered species list, cats or nene?
The nēnē is the most endangered goose in the entire world, they take precedence over cats and over the desires of busy body bored Karens. Criminalize abandoning your animals there, sterilize the cats and move them or preferably get them adopted out or placed in a sanctuary. Lana’i has a cat sanctuary which I believe was built to combat the feral cat population and it has worked out really well for them, the same needs to be done on all the islands. ALSO, why is it that when Hawaiians build cultural structures the “state” tears it down despite Hawaiians having Constitutional Native tenant rights to practice our culture and religious beliefs (amongst other things), yet haoles build a cat shelter and the “state” just lets it stay there?!?!
@@markb6295 “YOUR golf courses”?!? They aren’t mine! Besides, with very few exceptions, all golf courses are on Crown Lands (NOT ceded, as no Hawaiian ever ceded anything) & Crown Lands were made into private property, belonging to our sitting monarch in perpetuity, in the mid 1800’s. In the absence of a sitting monarch the land gets held in trust. Both US & more importantly international law provide that private property is untouchable with the acquisition of new territory, whether legal or in our case ILLEGAL. It’s called “pillaging”, and it’s very highly illegal.
Those cats ARE natives there, too. To be a native there, one must be born there, which both species fit the criteria. I find it sad that the state made the Nene the state bird, when there's true Hawaiian birds that they could have made the state bird. Not no Canadian goose cousin.
@@solventless808 native nā′tĭv adjective Being such by birth or origin. Being a member of the original inhabitants of a particular place. Of, belonging to, or characteristic of such inhabitants.
I love cat's too....BUT, they got to be controlled or we have to resort to other means....Cat's AND dogs do not belong in the "wild" of Hawaii....we have to MUCH Resources to loose...
Let see now we have Nene eating the cat's food and harassing cats. By golly we got a real Hawaiian Cat fight. Hawaii's home grown Karens vs Hawaii's own home grown bureaucrats. Cats and Kona Karen's vs Nene and Hawaii's Bureaucrats. At this rate they all lose including the Nenes, no more free gourmet grinds. Not to mention taxpayers paying for all those cops cite Kona's Karen's cat lovers.
I agree... dumping a bag of cat food on a parking lot does not make you a cat advocate. It is self serving to fight for what makes you feel good and ignore what actually happens as a result..
What an obviously sensationalized and slanted story this guy tells! This is exactly why I don’t consume the news anymore! It’s always something like this! “A bizarre, surreal scene” “Armed DLNR officers hovering...” “A woman cited for leaving a bowl of water...” “A group of Nene came aggressively toward me..” This is journalism? The law and the issue at hand wasn’t even mentioned in this ridiculous, provocative non story. The excitement and the inflection in this mans voice made me think that he was also a cat lady that showed up to the moron convention with a camera.
Feral cats hunt and kill birds at night even when fully fed. The cats should be trapped spayed and neutered and relocated to areas with known rat problems.
They might even hunt mongoose if you can keep people from feeding them. Cats are excellent hunters. We could theoretically trap, spay, and neuter every feral cat we can find in native bird habitat. Then give each a collar with an cheap tracking tag and let the cats loose anywhere we have problems with rats, mice, and mongoose (which are also invasive that can kill native birds) we can use one problem to solve the other and just move the cats wherever they are needed.
@@CerebralEnema Cats and mongoose won't mess with each other due to knowing one or both could get seriously injured. And cats don't live in the Koolau and hunt Hawaiian birds. Cats live where people live. And if they do eat birds, they are eating Mynah birds, pigeons, house sparrows, tiger doves, which they find in urban areas. By the way, do you know what will feed on Nene geese's eggs? Rats.
@@kaleoy7584 it has already been proven through trail cams, photos, tracks, fecal samples, bones with bite marks, ect that feral cats venture deep into the forests on all the Hawaiian islands and do in fact hunt and kill native birds. Evidence of feral cats has been found in virtually every unprotected forested area in Hawaii. They are far from the only threat to native birds but they are the only invasive species were some people seem to value a single individual more than dozens or even hundreds of native animals. I’m a vet tec student and I love cats but If I adopt one it will be spayed or neutered and it will be an indoor cat as that’s healthier for the cat and the environment.
Majority of these cats are netured through the TNR program by the feeders. No shelters to take cats to. People dumps them when they don't want to care for them anymore.
So I read a comment earlier that these Cat Enthusiastic People capture, spay/neuter, and release. If that's the case, why where there two kittens in the camera shot of the lava field? Look, I'm all for cats being allowed to live but nēnē come first. I admit I don't like cats however either these cats were dumped or left or escaped but it's still a problem no less than feral chickens or rats or mongoose. Tackle one problem at a time. If the cat folks are so dead set on keeping them alive, capture them and find good homes don't continue to perpetuate the problem facing native and indigenous creatures of which cats are not.
Nah. Too many cats. They are a nuisance and create colonies that are dirty, smelly, a health hazard, and are not 'pets'. Too many dogs...and too many cats. End of story bra'.
I live in waikoloa and am in a group regarding events in my area, and the amount of cat ladies talking about this every other day drives me nuts. All talk, no action. If it bothers you, do something! It’s funny because I guarantee you none of these people would stand up for issues regarding native hawaiians as majority are transplants. BOOOOOO
Humans who dump their pets should be punished not the cats. Sad ordeal but they won't have been cats there if people wouldn't dump their pets. Always the animals who suffer.
You know most of these people are from the mainland better things to do than argue about the cats ! Don’t you have anything else better to do this so many other better issues not more important I love cats this is getting out of hand , Let the DLNR do their job maybe they can assist in a better location
Au~we🤦🏽♀️. Why don’t we take it to the LORD KUMUKahi Iesū Christo, Ke Akua 🥺 Praying for y’all there!! Let’s jus love one another as our Lord Jesus Christ did!!!
Christianity is just passive white supremacy. Get it together, they used their god as a means of reprogramming you and your kupuna to think and act like them. Not haole people nor their god care about kanaka maoli e Hawai’i ko pae aina.
Feral cats should never just be fed. They should be Trapped, Neutered, and Released. TNR. We've been doing that for decades in my part of California. If they are hungry and a bird comes along, they will grab and eat it. I don't thnk catfood will hurt nene. They are geese and geese are notorious omnivores. They are agressive so a cat isn't going to get them. Babies may be on the menu. From Oakland CA
I was just noticing the people behind I don’t recognize any local people these people look like they just wanna make trouble do you wanna be seen on TV and make a big deal out of nothing I have a move their animals to save her place
Oh please, cats are an INVASIVE SPECIES. Why don't ALL of you cat lovers trap the cats and bring them home and take care of them instead complaining about the DLNR doing their jobs. You guys always complain, but never help solve the problem. I say, LETS MAKE MANAPU'A cheeeeeehuuuuuuu
priority should go to the native Hawaiian species.
Guess you don't realize that the Nene is a close cousin of the Canadian geese that evolved after migrating here.
@@kaleoy7584 i do know that there are many introduced animals in Hawaii that never would have made it here had they not been brought over by people.
the point is, if the Nene made it here by themselves, that should give them priority.
It was negligent people that let the cats free to be stray. Nene goose are native, cats are NOT! They're lucky that people don't shoot them! For those people that are cited for feeding the cats, make them take the cats home and take care of them! Microchip the cats and make those people responsible for them!
One question you ask the protestors, which animal is on the endangered species list, cats or nene?
The nēnē is the most endangered goose in the entire world, they take precedence over cats and over the desires of busy body bored Karens.
Criminalize abandoning your animals there, sterilize the cats and move them or preferably get them adopted out or placed in a sanctuary. Lana’i has a cat sanctuary which I believe was built to combat the feral cat population and it has worked out really well for them, the same needs to be done on all the islands.
ALSO, why is it that when Hawaiians build cultural structures the “state” tears it down despite Hawaiians having Constitutional Native tenant rights to practice our culture and religious beliefs (amongst other things), yet haoles build a cat shelter and the “state” just lets it stay there?!?!
I agree with your comments. Auwe! Stop feeding the cats!
You willing to give up your golf courses for the cause?
@@markb6295 “YOUR golf courses”?!? They aren’t mine! Besides, with very few exceptions, all golf courses are on Crown Lands (NOT ceded, as no Hawaiian ever ceded anything) & Crown Lands were made into private property, belonging to our sitting monarch in perpetuity, in the mid 1800’s. In the absence of a sitting monarch the land gets held in trust. Both US & more importantly international law provide that private property is untouchable with the acquisition of new territory, whether legal or in our case ILLEGAL. It’s called “pillaging”, and it’s very highly illegal.
F the nene goose.
@@ClarkKent-ic3pb
Are you alright?!? 🤪
Protect the nene! Let the haole take the cats to their homes and feed them there.
look like all transplants...
Remove the cat feeder
comedy gold!
This news story was longer than the Chicken Fight double murder story - changing the channel- back to Channel 2 - junk but not as bad.
This has to be REMOVED do to our native birds can be indangered. So, I'm NOT sorry it has to be done.
These people need to respect the NATIVE animals. If they care so much about the cats they should take them home
Those cats ARE natives there, too. To be a native there, one must be born there, which both species fit the criteria.
I find it sad that the state made the Nene the state bird, when there's true Hawaiian birds that they could have made the state bird. Not no Canadian goose cousin.
@@kaleoy7584being born somewhere does not make one native.
@@solventless808 native
nā′tĭv
adjective
Being such by birth or origin.
Being a member of the original inhabitants of a particular place.
Of, belonging to, or characteristic of such inhabitants.
Doesn’t matter whose native or not. One species is endanger and one isn’t.
I love cat's too....BUT, they got to be controlled or we have to resort to other means....Cat's AND dogs do not belong in the "wild" of Hawaii....we have to MUCH Resources to loose...
Mostly Americans not enough Hawaiians
Stop feeding the Karens 🙄
Oia’i’o
Let see now we have Nene eating the cat's food and harassing cats. By golly we got a real Hawaiian Cat fight. Hawaii's home grown Karens vs Hawaii's own home grown bureaucrats. Cats and Kona Karen's vs Nene and Hawaii's Bureaucrats. At this rate they all lose including the Nenes, no more free gourmet grinds. Not to mention taxpayers paying for all those cops cite Kona's Karen's cat lovers.
Stop the cats Put um to sleep.
all i see are a bunch of cat karens that have probably moved to hawaii in the last 40 years
I agree... dumping a bag of cat food on a parking lot does not make you a cat advocate. It is self serving to fight for what makes you feel good and ignore what actually happens as a result..
If you love the cats so much take em home. This is a major problem everywhere.
What an obviously sensationalized and slanted story this guy tells! This is exactly why I don’t consume the news anymore! It’s always something like this!
“A bizarre, surreal scene”
“Armed DLNR officers hovering...”
“A woman cited for leaving a bowl of water...”
“A group of Nene came aggressively toward me..”
This is journalism? The law and the issue at hand wasn’t even mentioned in this ridiculous, provocative non story. The excitement and the inflection in this mans voice made me think that he was also a cat lady that showed up to the moron convention with a camera.
Feral cats hunt and kill birds at night even when fully fed. The cats should be trapped spayed and neutered and relocated to areas with known rat problems.
Agree!!!
They might even hunt mongoose if you can keep people from feeding them. Cats are excellent hunters. We could theoretically trap, spay, and neuter every feral cat we can find in native bird habitat. Then give each a collar with an cheap tracking tag and let the cats loose anywhere we have problems with rats, mice, and mongoose (which are also invasive that can kill native birds) we can use one problem to solve the other and just move the cats wherever they are needed.
@@CerebralEnema Cats and mongoose won't mess with each other due to knowing one or both could get seriously injured. And cats don't live in the Koolau and hunt Hawaiian birds. Cats live where people live. And if they do eat birds, they are eating Mynah birds, pigeons, house sparrows, tiger doves, which they find in urban areas.
By the way, do you know what will feed on Nene geese's eggs? Rats.
@@kaleoy7584 it has already been proven through trail cams, photos, tracks, fecal samples, bones with bite marks, ect that feral cats venture deep into the forests on all the Hawaiian islands and do in fact hunt and kill native birds. Evidence of feral cats has been found in virtually every unprotected forested area in Hawaii. They are far from the only threat to native birds but they are the only invasive species were some people seem to value a single individual more than dozens or even hundreds of native animals. I’m a vet tec student and I love cats but If I adopt one it will be spayed or neutered and it will be an indoor cat as that’s healthier for the cat and the environment.
Cats are really out of control. At the least, they should all be sterilized.
Majority of these cats are netured through the TNR program by the feeders. No shelters to take cats to. People dumps them when they don't want to care for them anymore.
So I read a comment earlier that these Cat Enthusiastic People capture, spay/neuter, and release. If that's the case, why where there two kittens in the camera shot of the lava field?
Look, I'm all for cats being allowed to live but nēnē come first. I admit I don't like cats however either these cats were dumped or left or escaped but it's still a problem no less than feral chickens or rats or mongoose.
Tackle one problem at a time. If the cat folks are so dead set on keeping them alive, capture them and find good homes don't continue to perpetuate the problem facing native and indigenous creatures of which cats are not.
crazy cat ladies
Lets make MANAPU'A cheeeehuuuuu🙀🙀🙀🙀🙀🙀🙀😿
Nearby anaehoomalu bay is over run by these same cats
Nah. Too many cats.
They are a nuisance and create colonies that are dirty, smelly, a health hazard, and are not 'pets'.
Too many dogs...and too many cats.
End of story bra'.
They just need to trap and remove the cats.
I live in waikoloa and am in a group regarding events in my area, and the amount of cat ladies talking about this every other day drives me nuts. All talk, no action. If it bothers you, do something!
It’s funny because I guarantee you none of these people would stand up for issues regarding native hawaiians as majority are transplants. BOOOOOO
Pew pew
But Nene and Cats are buddies
Humans who dump their pets should be punished not the cats. Sad ordeal but they won't have been cats there if people wouldn't dump their pets. Always the animals who suffer.
Omg the nene has already reached endangered status. Dozen officers for a Bowl of water really?!
Thats what happens when people are ordered not to defy the law - some clown puts water in a bowl to push the limits of the enforcement efforts!
I also want to say That are Nene goose is more important to Islands and wildlife in the feral cats even though they eat rats
You know most of these people are from the mainland better things to do than argue about the cats ! Don’t you have anything else better to do this so many other better issues not more important I love cats this is getting out of hand , Let the DLNR do their job maybe they can assist in a better location
Au~we🤦🏽♀️. Why don’t we take it to the LORD KUMUKahi Iesū Christo, Ke Akua 🥺
Praying for y’all there!! Let’s jus love one another as our Lord Jesus Christ did!!!
Christianity is just passive white supremacy. Get it together, they used their god as a means of reprogramming you and your kupuna to think and act like them.
Not haole people nor their god care about kanaka maoli e Hawai’i ko pae aina.
Ya, really.. why can’t we just all hold hands and love one another in a really big circle? The Nene thing will work itself out..
@@user3378e Aʻole walaʻau waha. Kiapolō haole ilio.
@@TonyPstunts mai hookae
Feral cats should never just be fed. They should be Trapped, Neutered, and Released. TNR. We've been doing that for decades in my part of California. If they are hungry and a bird comes along,
they will grab and eat it. I don't thnk catfood will hurt nene. They are geese and geese are notorious omnivores. They are agressive so a cat isn't going to get them. Babies may be on the menu.
From Oakland CA
I was just noticing the people behind I don’t recognize any local people these people look like they just wanna make trouble do you wanna be seen on TV and make a big deal out of nothing I have a move their animals to save her place
Hahahahahahahhahahahahahahha😂😂😂😂😂
Merica
So sad that officials would stoop this low. I love cats; they are friendly and reduce my stress. Shame on DLNR!
So you are alright actively driving a native species to extinction?
Take them all home then.
Oh please, cats are an INVASIVE SPECIES. Why don't ALL of you cat lovers trap the cats and bring them home and take care of them instead complaining about the DLNR doing their jobs. You guys always complain, but never help solve the problem. I say, LETS MAKE MANAPU'A cheeeeeehuuuuuuu
Ignorance on parade..
Feed the cats..😅
The fault lies on the the NO pets rental policies!
Haha, Americans are so funny.
Go patsy mink you guys blind
Cats won't attack an animal that isn't afraid of it.
hungry kitties will kill nene goslings
You think a cat is not afraid of the adult geese that will protect their babies?