Teamed With a 1000 Elo Player vs 4 Viewers | AoE2
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i don't know if you read my advice under the previous video of adding 1 low elo player to your team but i am happy to see that i had the right intuition. the game is much better like this.
btw in my opinion the perfomance of the low elo companion will be better in a closed map. this one was difficult to wall off so he got raided pretty hard
The low elo player was also kinda dead weight. Just a tiny bit not pulling his weight. He had like full platoons of pikemen and other units just sitting there while Hera was slowly getting pushed back at middle. It's not a bad play but, if the team mate was slightly more proactive with those units, Hera could have maintained middle. This gameplay does show that it can be dead set even and make for an epic game with the right elo player as a team mate.
everything changed when the scorpion nation attacked
Considering how close this game was, I think we can say that the first big Hussar raid by Xardas (red) won the game, where Hera lost like 20~30 villagers. Hard to notice that when fighting all around the center at the same time against multiple players, so it just goes to show: don't rely on garrisoning town centers to defend your eco in Imperial! Even if you only get palisades, wall your base.
Hussars can break it, but since units don't auto-attack walls, your enemy has to click on the wall each time they get in, and you only have to repair a small section of wall. The warning you get gives you more time to react than a warning from hussars attacking farmers.
Trebuchets would actually be a good way to counter the scorpions: as long as you have walls around them. Having to keep a big mass of halberdiers in front of your trebuchets, in case enemy pushes with pikemen or tries to snipe with cavalry, is a loss when you're down 600 pop. Trebuchets can shoot at enemy trebs attacking the castle and can also shoot scorpions that get close. You should think of any time one of your trebuchets gets hit by a melee unit as a loss: a trebuchet is 400 resources; a palisade wall is 3 wood and has more HP than the trebuchet.
I was also thinking trebs vs the scorps, but there were like 30-40 scorps tbh so idk
but trebs would take forever to destroy all those scorpions that can move anyway. I thought maybe the Ethiopian onagers with their tech should do the job but seemed like the other guy didn't even have resources for Arbalesters at the time.
@@kickgreven3921 Castles still outrange scorpions, and since trebs have 1 melee armor they take only 1 damage from scorpions (unlike units with bonus damage vs rams, like Galleons, where trebs take more damage than siege rams that have 2 ram armor).
You could kill trebs with scorpions, just like you can with skirmishers, but it wouldn't be nearly as cheap as killing unwalled trebs with cavalry.
Ideally, you just stall out the scorpions while you raid like Hera did (and wait for your ally to get stronger). The problem was that while raiding, he was losing castles and therefore middle control.
Edit: the counter to this is probably a siege tower to protect the ranged units you use to snipe the trebuchet, since siege towers block castle arrows fired at units behind the siege tower, but no one would think of that.
40 vills i saw the nuumber go from 145 to 105. Edit: hera proabably lost 100 vills to raids.
Trebs (especially when underneath a castle) are a good counter to scorpions, if a bit unwieldy. It is a one-shot versus 150 shots (though Khmer's UT means it would be more like 75 shots). Accuracy is a bit of an issue, but with that many scorpions out there, you'll probably hit one (even if it isn't the one you're aiming at). If the numbers go down low enough that misses are more probable, than the numbers are low enough that cavalry would be able to take care of the remaining scorpions.
My main experience with trebs versus Scorpions is a few Roman mirror matches, where a scorpion mass is killer (because trebs and castles are the only counter to a scorpion mass). Scorpions can still take out trebs, but it takes some time. And if the treb is underneath a castle, the scorpions are better off fleeing. So long as the treb takes out 3 scorpions, it has dealt more damage than it costed. Though the fact that trebs need castles still isn't ideal. Still, in a pinch (which was the case in this game), trebs are solid against scorpions.
that was hella entertaining.
really like that format - lead to a really entertaining match. Thanks Hera!
These games remind me of the simuls grandmasters give in chess :D Btw the candidates tournament is on right now, worth checking out
This was so good, it felt like momentum switched at least three times during the game.
Hera's First defense against scouts from 3 players was insane :) Overall amazing game. At end it was just overwhelming army from opponents and good mix of units.
Pretty even and awesome game, would like to see more games like this 2v4!
That was really impressive performance by everyone involved. Sick game!
It's amazing how good you are, man! n1 without a doubt
The civ preview at the start of the game showed the info for malay, not cumans. Just thought I'd point that out if you need to reupload early
1:09 to be exact
i will fire my editor over this. Thank you for letting me know
@@HeraAgeofEmpires2😂
It was EmpPeter who confused the editor 😅😅 with memories of the karambit spam 😅😅
Very fun to watch!
That wolf play was hilarious! Bravo!
It was very very very fun game. I like Hera's those matchs so much.
This should be fun, I'm gonna get popcorn!
thx 4 another video!
Nice game Hera, but i think that if u stone wall ur base then the raids from red player would'nt have done that much damage ... but its still a hard game to win
That was an awesome game!
I love to see how you are still traumatised by the Malay ;p
19:05 lol, "that's not even a hole"
That game was very enjoyable watching
Thanks Hera for taking into account the non native speakers. Keep it up
That game was so intense lmao the red constant raiding was really annnoying and the yellow end strategy was just insane lmao they had a good teamwork and adaptability on this one
Damn, what a crazy game! Your teammate kicked ass for sure, props to him.
I swear 900 elo Hera viewers are like 1200 elo regulars 😂 Fellas played well!
Hera tells memb not to get horsecollar until 16 farms, gets horsecollar with 0 farms lol
damn dude you move fast
Very interesting game
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GOOD
BADA BUM TOTAAAL DOMINATION!!!!!!
>They have cavalry we need pikes
Who are you and what have you done with Hera?
With 200 pop cap you have to do earlier damage to their eco. If they can build up you cant compete once they have 800 pop.
Hera, the Magnus Carlson of Age of Empires 2.
Only found you because of T90; only follow because you both upload to youtube. Please don't let twitch chat ruin the uploads!
This video has been brought to you by Malay Industries.
I cant get enough of these games! Wish youd get more of these 1vs/2vsX or some other player to copy this
9:30 111111111 I love this game so much
pop cap hurts 😸
I play a lot of Team Games as Cumans and i think if you had gone Steppe Lancers immediately in Castle Age and played to wipe them out quickly you would have won
They were already pumping out camels just after all their knights died. And don't forget, it's not 3v3 or 4v4, it's 2 v 4.
I really want to see teals POV on this game
At @31:00 only one of the four trebs attacked the castle while the other three didn't (bu later one joined the active treb in attacking the TC). Not sure if bug or a misclick
Cast Liery and Viper vs beginners pls
Am I the only one that screamed at Hera the whole game that he had 2 relics in his base and he never tried picking them up? Over the whole game those were a couple gold stacks that he could have got for nothing.
if hera builds walls late game and doesn't get raided he'd be unstopable :D he is really making his life harder by ignoring walls late
Is it so edited or hera has natural speech like that :)
Man.. would have been nice if your teammate was a little higher ELO so you could have worked together more.
You should always play equal population. It doesn't make sense otherwise.
I think sacrificing one castle in the middle for a wall around the base would have been worth it.
no stone walls for cumans
Worst advice ever
There is no way red and yellow rated as it shows on their profiles!!
I see that red hits the next age at a very good time
And yellow have a good macro with a good strategy in late game
I think both of them are around 1400elo
this was a 1v4 tbh
Does anyone know what I need to tell my Barber so I can look like Hera?
😂😂 19:10
I absolutely hit those
19:06 Summary of dating in our "progressive" western world today.
What the hell was your teammate doing the whole game 🤣
Fighting with me.
😂 Think you can do better? Prove it.
Maybe this comment was referring to @Sirgoldblade‘s post, not yours?
With all due respect, and I'm sure someone has asked what's your setup and perhaps your hotkey setup.
Answer to the twitch chat, Meta i think means that. A player to their knowledge uses every best possible mechanic in the game to their advantage. What ever it may be. For example COD has meta weapons every season which are the best at the time. When u use them u are meta gaming.
tl;dr the term META comes from the phrase Most Efficient TActic
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i think
ur teammate should’ve started pushing much earlier, making em
concentrate on him as well, leaving u w less troops supplies
Hera how about games like this increasing your pop to be more fair
That’s 800 vs 400 doesn’t come close to
nice malay play
4v1
I think you always need to give your self more pop space. 25 extra per 2 players seems fair