I am super intrigued. Back in the 300 blackout days, I did some work with Gorilla when the 300Bo was in it's infancy. I have made designed a handful of molds as well as well as swage a 220 grain subsonic expanding bullet. I understand the work you are doing. I have notebooks full of data on the 300. I really would love to see some terminal ballistic results. There is only one or two I can find right now on the internet. I might have a barrel tooled up and join your party here. If you get an opportunity mix up some gel and throw one of those hammers into it. There is a tutorial on my channel on an easy recipe. I have been knee deep in large caliber airguns and projectiles as my newest adventure but I always like a challenge. Keep up the good work! Good stuff here.
I’m just as deep into 8.6 as you. Keep pushing, I believe the industry will pick up on it once we “normalize” and it will be the large frame 300 blackout we all know it can be.
I love it, I am having a blast and learning so much! Jumped in with 2 feet! I dont imagine ill ever grab a grendel creedmoor or anything else to go hunt. this would be my first choice every time!
It’s good that you can get factory loads that group well. Hard to spend a bunch of money trying to outperform it but that’s fun as far as I’m concerned. Thanks for sharing your research!
ITs all a process keep working up loads. You now have the factory benchmark to roll your own supers this is the only way to really go forward with this round
@@mrsuperd1983 I was struggling back when this video was made it’s all more clear now. I have a diligent defense adapter direct thread that fits the taper. I got the titanium one.
I have fired 50 rounds of 8.6 blackout with converted sig 6.5 brass , I have never turned the necks I wonder if it has to do with the brass you are using, I have heard hornady 6.5 brass works good also Great video
Hornady brass is really close to being fine and IS fine some of the time. Check yours, gotta be .11 sometimes .12 works? Its really not a big deal, I will have about 200 pieces of brass made up and that will last me years. I have shot some of these 4-5 reloads already. Ill keep 50 in the mix for use and then stash the rest and swap as needed.
At minute mark 2:35 What do you mean you’re glad to see that the Barnes is holding together at 2100 fps ? It’s a monolithic bullet , you can’t shear it by spinning it at high rpms…
Ya, I maybe conflated all of the bullet concerns on to this particular bullet. Unjustly, you are correct. The barnes tsx are good to go. the ttsx I have not tested, have you?
@@EagleRun23 I’ve shot dozens of wildcats over the years the 8.6 blk out is no different other than a fast twist And inflation costs on every component. I may be in the minority on this but I’d say bail While you still have some money in the account , this caliber could break the bank.
Look at Barnes TSX data they need at LEAST 2000fps for reliable expansion in the rifle bullet line. You wont be able to get a 8.6 fast enough worry about the integrity of TSX. The only reason I haven't got one yet is because I think barnes is going to have to make a bullet that will open at slower velocities for the 8.6 like they did the .300 blk out.
I hand loaded gorilla brass with the tsx 160 grain was geting 2150ish just took a white tail doe in sep 13th in wyoming shot her at 200 years and it exploded inside. I did have a peace pass through but there was no lungs left and hit the top of the hart. She did run 50yards but it dont need velocity to expand it has rpm to do it
FYI to shoot super sonic in a 1:3 twist barrel you must use bonded or solid copper bullets. Or you risk blowing up your comp or chrono as the bullet comes apart spinning at 500,000 rpm's.
Nice, so if it could impart 100% energy it would push a 150 lb object 10 feet? sounds like what a movie would show!! Maybe instead of paper you could have a steel target on a rope and see how many revolutions you can make it wrap around the horizontal support!
I zero my hunting setup at 50 but when I do accuracy testing its always 100 unless other wise noted. that way we can use the correct "MOA" terminology.
ill have a data release on the reloading channel very soon. I am comfortable with my results to share so far, seem perfectly safe. I also have a buddy whos load for 275grains is about ready to be shared.
@@EagleRun23 I'm wondering where I should start on a 250gr FMJ. I'm wondering if jacket failure will occur, but I'm guessing 1700-1800 fps? 25gr 1680? Or do you think I should start less?
In the first 30 seconds of your video, you show just the three top targets?.. You have a breathing control problem. Rounds float up and down while rounds go down range. learn breath control or give up long-range shooting. if anyone taught you/ they taught you...WRONG!
not saying I dont have a few issues with my form, but those are different weight bullets different hand loads, different velocities. I suspect those are the main reason the point of aim and point of impact are different. very different rounds.
Nice video! I didn't hear you mention that the center circle was .7"... Helps with visual reference
Good call! ya should have mentioned that. ill pin your comment.
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Appreciate your costs! Always looking for 100 and out to 200 yards, with group photos and load data.
I am super intrigued. Back in the 300 blackout days, I did some work with Gorilla when the 300Bo was in it's infancy. I have made designed a handful of molds as well as well as swage a 220 grain subsonic expanding bullet. I understand the work you are doing. I have notebooks full of data on the 300. I really would love to see some terminal ballistic results. There is only one or two I can find right now on the internet. I might have a barrel tooled up and join your party here. If you get an opportunity mix up some gel and throw one of those hammers into it. There is a tutorial on my channel on an easy recipe. I have been knee deep in large caliber airguns and projectiles as my newest adventure but I always like a challenge. Keep up the good work! Good stuff here.
Hey! My email is eaglerun23 at protonmail dot com. I did an update last week on my 86 journey. There are several videos and a ted talk :)
1500ftlbs at 2200fps is definitely impressive
I’m just as deep into 8.6 as you. Keep pushing, I believe the industry will pick up on it once we “normalize” and it will be the large frame 300 blackout we all know it can be.
I love it, I am having a blast and learning so much! Jumped in with 2 feet! I dont imagine ill ever grab a grendel creedmoor or anything else to go hunt. this would be my first choice every time!
It’s good that you can get factory loads that group well. Hard to spend a bunch of money trying to outperform it but that’s fun as far as I’m concerned. Thanks for sharing your research!
Absolutely
ITs all a process keep working up loads. You now have the factory benchmark to roll your own supers this is the only way to really go forward with this round
It has been frustrating at times, but i think the cool factor has kept me motivated to crack it! thanks for watching killer.
What attachment did you need to put the suppressor on your Q fix?
@@mrsuperd1983 I was struggling back when this video was made it’s all more clear now. I have a diligent defense adapter direct thread that fits the taper. I got the titanium one.
I have fired 50 rounds of 8.6 blackout with converted sig 6.5 brass , I have never turned the necks
I wonder if it has to do with the brass you are using, I have heard hornady 6.5 brass works good also
Great video
Hornady brass is really close to being fine and IS fine some of the time. Check yours, gotta be .11 sometimes .12 works? Its really not a big deal, I will have about 200 pieces of brass made up and that will last me years. I have shot some of these 4-5 reloads already. Ill keep 50 in the mix for use and then stash the rest and swap as needed.
At minute mark 2:35
What do you mean you’re glad to see that the Barnes is holding together at 2100 fps ?
It’s a monolithic bullet , you can’t shear it by spinning it at high rpms…
Ya, I maybe conflated all of the bullet concerns on to this particular bullet. Unjustly, you are correct. The barnes tsx are good to go. the ttsx I have not tested, have you?
@@EagleRun23 I’ve shot dozens of wildcats over the years the 8.6 blk out is no different other than a fast twist
And inflation costs on every component.
I may be in the minority on this but I’d say bail
While you still have some money in the account , this caliber could break the bank.
Look at Barnes TSX data they need at LEAST 2000fps for reliable expansion in the rifle bullet line. You wont be able to get a 8.6 fast enough worry about the integrity of TSX. The only reason I haven't got one yet is because I think barnes is going to have to make a bullet that will open at slower velocities for the 8.6 like they did the .300 blk out.
They are 2100 fps from gorilla. I am trying for 2200 on my hand loads.
I hand loaded gorilla brass with the tsx 160 grain was geting 2150ish just took a white tail doe in sep 13th in wyoming shot her at 200 years and it exploded inside. I did have a peace pass through but there was no lungs left and hit the top of the hart. She did run 50yards but it dont need velocity to expand it has rpm to do it
FYI to shoot super sonic in a 1:3 twist barrel you must use bonded or solid copper bullets. Or you risk blowing up your comp or chrono as the bullet comes apart spinning at 500,000 rpm's.
100% yes. So far we have used 205 hammer, 210 Barnes tsx (not ttsx). I have some >200 grain back country too all for super Sonic.
Wow that last group on the right was impressive
its not supposed to be an accurate round, but I was jazzed!
Nice, so if it could impart 100% energy it would push a 150 lb object 10 feet? sounds like what a movie would show!! Maybe instead of paper you could have a steel target on a rope and see how many revolutions you can make it wrap around the horizontal support!
Will be shooting at my property more “creative” objects very soon!
Great job!
Thanks!
As soon as it is Sammi I'm in
Wat is your longest distance shooting this
I zero my hunting setup at 50 but when I do accuracy testing its always 100 unless other wise noted. that way we can use the correct "MOA" terminology.
What powder load? how many grains?
ill have a data release on the reloading channel very soon. I am comfortable with my results to share so far, seem perfectly safe. I also have a buddy whos load for 275grains is about ready to be shared.
@@EagleRun23 I'm wondering where I should start on a 250gr FMJ. I'm wondering if jacket failure will occur, but I'm guessing 1700-1800 fps? 25gr 1680? Or do you think I should start less?
Still trying to get 8.6 case gauge from Sheridan, they're still out....
I talked to them like 2 weeks ago, they thought they would have another batch out, I dont know how many are in a batch?! Stay on them :)
@@EagleRun23 Checked just now and Bam in stock and ordered..! Thanks
I bout gave up on this caliber
I have been there. But it held my interest so far!
@@EagleRun23 exactly
More i findout how to make it work more I wanna keep. I found some 8.6 brass with necks turned ima order
Barrel length?
I have 8, 12 and 16. 16” is dedicated to supersonic
@EagleRun23 why is the 16" dedicated to supers?
@@honEbadger69 because a 16” plus suppressor is long. I have shot it suppressed. Does fine. Just gonna run a trad muzzle device to help with accuracy.
8.6 "X" ROUND, A 8.6 BLACKOUT ROUND MATED TO A 63MM 30-06 CASING? WITH A MILITARY POWDER LOAD TOO.
In the first 30 seconds of your video, you show just the three top targets?.. You have a breathing control problem. Rounds float up and down while rounds go down range. learn breath control or give up long-range shooting. if anyone taught you/ they taught you...WRONG!
not saying I dont have a few issues with my form, but those are different weight bullets different hand loads, different velocities. I suspect those are the main reason the point of aim and point of impact are different. very different rounds.