My spring project was a BBSHD 52v 17.5a kit into a Specialized Pitch Expert 1x10 Deore bike. The kit came from Electrifybike who had everything in-stock, unlike the more popular sites that are out of everything most of the time.. I bought an Eggrider display with it so I could custom program everything easily. It makes a huge difference in ride-ability when you can alter settings to stop the wheelies and chain slams, and find the sweet spots for cadence/gearing/workout/range and comfort. For chains that will last, get the KMC E series chains, made for Ebikes. They're not cheap, my E10 was $52 but they're the strongest you can buy. So far I'm loving this thing. Ordered new tires to get rid of the mountain bike knobby's for a more of street/path/cross country tire. This is exactly the workout is was looking for when I built this. I haven't ridden a bike since 1974. I'm 65 and I had reservations that this was going to hurt, a lot. Totally unfounded it turns out. My legs were trembling after the 1st 8 mile ride for 15 min after. Now 40 miles latter, my legs are fine, and get it gets my lungs and heart working hard, but nothing ever hurts the next day like I expected. Mark at Electrifybike was terrific to work with, highly recommend.
I have a BBSHD on a Cannondale bad boy. My car stays parked most of the time when the weather is above freezing. Its the best thing I've ever built! Some day I feel like a bike and take bike paths and other days (if im late for meeting up with friends etc.) I can basically be like a motorcycle and ride with traffic around town if needed.
I´ve using my BBSHD on a fat cargo bike on a dayly basis for 2 years now; 160 to 260 kg load, 36t chainring. 52v 10ah then 21ah (made out of Samsung 35E)battery. Superb climbing capabilities even with heavy loads. No issues! Just ripped apart a cheap "sunrace" 11-46t 30$ cassette, 2 spokes and a chain after 2400km. BTW: you forgot to mention that the Bafang Ultra comes with torque sensor and the BBSHD not which is a big step back in terms of smooth pedaling
My bbshd is running a 3200w controller with metal gears and a 52v 25ah battery and 60amps . Its a beast . They guy who made the controller tested the control and motor in a torture test and the motor just sucks it up . The battery on the otherhand gets stressed a bit running flat out going up hills . I like the bbshd because you can put it in virtually any frame you want whilst the fixed motor only suits certain frames .
Got a WattWagon Hydra with the Bafang Ultra M620 & it's a Beast going up mountains & a dream down hill. Great Company to deal with & I've had Excellent Customer Service.
Fitted the bbshd into my full suspension boardman off road bike, great performance, but would recommend a gear sensor to cut off the power fractionally whilst changing gears as it is 160nm of torque! ...also recommend the lekkie type front sprocket, as it's alternate thick/thin sprocket teeth grips the chain a lot better than the stock pressed steel bafang one, another clever touch was fitting the 36v 250w sticker to keep the right side of the law! ..keep speed down and enjoy your ride!
Another Chinese e-bike builder using the Bafang M620 motor is Dengfu. Their USA office/brand name is Winice. I received the Merak or better known as the E56 model. It is a carbon fiber full suspension fat tire e-bike. Been riding it the last 6 months here in Monterey, CA. The local riding site is Fort Ord with a crazy web of single track trails consisting of most sand, most of it is hard pack but as the summer dryer months and useage extend the sand gets often softer. This is when the fat tires help out. It looks quite nice but the wheel is a bit long and it still weighs 83 lbs. It really isn’t that fun to jump and difficult to do rear wheel kick outs but for the most part is capable enough to keep up with others in group rides whom predominantly ride Specialized Levo mullet e-bikes.
Hey, I just put an order in for a Biktrix juggernaut Ultra Duo 1000. From your video I think it comes with Isis crank arms rather than square tape crank arms & bottom bracket. I have some issues with my knee range of motion (lack of full bending) but I use an adaptive crank shortener. There are some good availible short ISIS cranks from the unicycle people. There are also shorter square taper cranks availible but mainly lighter duty for kids bikes. Not sure if those will fit or if they will have enough "Q" factor to clear the motor and chain stays. Anyway hopefully, I will be able to source a spare set of cranks 0r to modify to my needs. Thanks for your view
Mike, I built an ebike 3 yrs ago and it's still going strong with the same li ion battery. But there are two things that I want now. A solar powered li ion boat and a li ion ultralite glider. I wish you would branch off into these two directions in your electric journey, so we can learn from you.
I've been riding a custom 72 volt 4kw bbshd since 2017 all over the USA As long as you don't break traffic laws you will never be stopped for your power output. I have 20k miles on street riding and have never been stopped. Even at speeds +45mph
@@va5715 correcting peoples wrong comment is good, but pulling their country or background into this ,just shows how well behaved and educated you are 😇.
@@jamesjohnson9557 I TOOK MY TWO 750 WATT MOTOR ARIEL RIDER D TWO WHEEL DRIVE BIKE AND PUT A BBHD CENTER DRIVE ON IT IT GOT TWO THROTTLES TWO TWO CADENCE PEDAL SENSORS BATTERIES AND A LOT OF FUN TO RIDE
I was thinking the same thing. Take advantage of easy starting from a stop and regenitive braking with the hub drives with speed and efficient hill climbing with the mid-drive motors. Less money replacing break pads and snapped chains.
Thank you for all your videos they have been very informative. I purchased a Biktrix Full Suspension and have been very happy with it, I had to make adjustments for my weight but overall I have been very happy with the bike. The reason I went with a Full Suspension bike was because hitting a bump at 35+ sucks. You mentioned that these motors can easily push 2000 to 2500 watts no problem. What is the best and safest way going about this. Thank you
I recently pre-ordered an ebike that came with the Bafang Ultra. It’s the Nireeka Prime. (They start shipping in August) I’m so excited! It’s gonna be my first ebike too. Thanks for the helpful info!
Donald Bartholomew Hey Donald , I havent received it yet. They're a very small company and it takes quite awhile to receive their bikes. My delivery date says October 15th. Hopefully will be worth it, bc it's a gorgeous bike
@@eBikify Sounds great the reason I asked is im looking for a full suspension emtn bike with the bafang ultra. I already have a hardtail with the ultra and its really fast and gets up any hill with ease.
Donald Bartholomew nireeka has two models. The Homie and the Prime. The Homie is a traditional cadence sensor hub motor bike with a 500w motor with full suspension. The Prime is their much more powerful 1000w fat tire mountain ebike, with a mid drive motor and torque sensor. No suspension but you can upgrade it to have front air suspension fork. It doesn't offer rear suspension. But that's fine bc the fat tires provide some added comfort on their own.
I'm confused with Bafangs number and lettering system. For clarification, the BBS HD is a cadence motor, whereas the M620 is a torque sensor motor, correct? Does the BBS HD have an alternate M# like M6?? Or is it just called the BBS HD?
As a owner of a "tuned" BBSHD powered bike, as you already stated, the weekest part of the bike is now the trasmission (mainly chain, derailleur and cassette). Which options have you found that can work well with this much power? I mean 8-9speed (that are more then enough with this motors) with modern clutch derailleurs and wide range cassette that will last longer then normal XC bike parts... Thanks!
I've had two Freys with Bafang Ultra for a couple years now (early adopter), a fat tire and a mid fat, and they're both awesome! I also built a frame to hold a Bafang Ultra, but beware that the mounting plate only comes in aluminum (I haven't found one in steel), and welding aluminum requires post heat treating to achieve maximum strength.
I just converted a full suspension mountain bike with a BBSHD that I got through bafangusadirect Great service I've also dealt with electrifybike and they are great too
One small info, g520 is the code of the motor (ultra 1000w) m620 is the code of thw ecosystem, bafang recently adopted this policy, they name their motor with a code, but the complete system (motor display etc ) with other, that is why is called both g520 and m620.
Will you do a review of the Bafang ultra excess controller to find out it really is more efficient and gives you 10-15% more range & runs cooler? Thanks!
I am starting an ebike build , i was going to weld and ultra motor bracket on the bike but they only come as far as i know in magnesium. Can this be welded to steel or is it aluminum only ? Thank in advace for your response , Big Rod of Oregon
Im sooo tempted by the ultra, Andy Kirby is running his at 4KW and its just a beast...but.. Im running the Bafang G06 hub at 2.5KW peak and it motors along nicely and will climb set of stairs with ease. Zero maintenance and still running original chain and sprockets without any wear after two years.
Yeah same here, done 3000 miles (4800 Km) on my 2kw hub motor and mever needed anything sorted out...DD hub motors are unbeatable in reliability and you can crank them up to double their nominal power, I could put 4kw through mine but 2kw is already more than I need.
I haven't seen anyone mention anything about current draw so here's a little insight: It seems it would be good advice to go with a higher volt battery pack so that you can decrease the amps which would in turn keep controller temps down. Assuming you were going to run your bike at the MAX rated output of 1500 watts: a 52v 14Ah ($500 Panasonic GA) battery will give you a runtime of 29 minutes (theoretically) however that would be at 29 Amps! A 72v 10Ah ($620 triangle Panasonic GA) battery will give you about the same (theoretical) run time of 30 minutes HOWEVER current draw will be a LOT cooler at only 20 amps. Keep in mind all of this is based on a constant max motor output of 1500 watts WHICH NOBODY WOULD EVER RUN THEIR BIKE AT for a continuous 30 minutes.
As an older guy, I tend to think that I want a bike to ride like I did in my 20s. The Frey AM 1000 has been a sparkle in my eye since it was redesigned last year. Thanks for the motor description. Company was confident the de-tuned 750w program would make it trail legal in CA, but I am not so sure.
I just built an 1000W 48V ebike, but regreted the rear mounted battery. I am thinking of downsizing, could you please tell me how to select a frame mounted 48V battery, what current, and what connector should I choose?
surprised he didnt mention buying from Bafang usa on amazon, save a BUNCH of money, thats where i got my bbshd kit, ships from a california warehouse, had it in less than week.
Same here, BAFANG shipped my BBSHD kit to me from right here in Las Vegas. Came Local Amazon Delivery. I had it and the Battery 2 days after I ordered it.
Make a video about why 18650 cells are mostly used in ebike batteries. Like why not 20700? Or 21700? They are just a little bit bigger and got more capacity and current, but still, not many people use these
Hey Micah....do you know if the BBSHD and the M615 are the same motor? And why cant the M625 be found on the bafang site? I want to stick with the bbshd because the parameters can be changed to max the top speeds! Seem alot of people are shying away from the newer M625 that has a proprietary SMile Battery. i surely dont want that and be limited in replacement battery choices and parameter settings. I do want the most recent version of the bbshd...is that the M615 in your opinion? thanks or your help !
Hello, I have a MTBike with the ultra max, which I adapted with a 36T chainring (thanks to Christini co in Philadephia and Karl G), Hope hubs, etc. I live in the french alps and do only mountain biking, the bafang ultra has proven to be great, although the frey frame and package is very heavy compared to my friends carbon eMTB... My question relates to the tuning of the engine, if you cover this. As the engine keeps going on a short while even after the pedaling has stopped. This can be critical in some situations... So if you have any advise, thank you, and sorry is my wording isn't perfect, I am a french national. Sincerely
Awesome video 👍. Please do a review of the qs 5000w or the 8000w ebike hub motor and good website or online store to buy it from. Please consider doing a review of the motor controllers and screen that would work with the qs hub motor. Have a good one.
I'm interested in a 26/4 fat tire, full suspension, with a concealed or partially concealed battery inside the frame. I would prefer it to have a 1500w motor to reach over 30mph but if a 1000w can get the job done that's fine. I was going to buy the Frey City Comute but realized its tires are relatively narrow. What is your recommendation around or below 3,000? BTW you'll find this question in several of your videos since I'm not sure how fast or if you'll respond. Thanks on advance...
I have a BBSHD because I need to travel high arching bridges over the intercoastal waterway. On the road I rarely need to go above PAS 1. I have had e bikes and used them as a main form of transportation for over ten years. But today I seem to be a rarity. Because I respect the laws in my state regarding our laws.
I have seen on ebay the bafang m500 - m600 ready to mount bike frame. So my question is : can the bafang m620 motor dirrect fit on these frames? Or is the over all motor m620 bigger than the m500 and m600 motor? A little confused here
I have an old mountain bike just begging for a electric conversion. Might look into getting a BBSHD. I rode a friends fat tire e-bike that he built using a mid-drive 3.5KW (3500 watt) motor and 96V battery pack. Talk about nuts. It'll pull wheelies all day long and easily hit 45+ MPH (72 KPH). Riding a fat tire bike at that speed is a little scary, lol.
BBSHD ideal for old MTB, bottom bracket 68-73mm. Go 52v (over 48v) for higher power option. Even the BBS-02 rocks, 30+ mph with 52 tooth chain ring. The BBSHD 40mph.
Hey love your videos. What do I need to consider in terms of clearance? If this motor replaces my current front assembly it usually will hang down more? I still need to go down curves.
I am new to Ebikes, and i have a small budget. I have a decent pedal bike already and I am weighing my options between buy a in expensive Ebike, like the Lectric XP for $900, OR converting my pedal bike with a Bafang mid-drive for close to the same price. Assuming I have little to no experience working with electronics, which do you recommend and why?
Which mid drive do you favor most Befang, Shamano,or Bosch. There are a couple more but these seem to be most popular. I like your video BTW very informative and easy to understand.
Will a hub-drive work with a mid-drive on the same bike with dual throttles? Another thought, Is it possible to use a CVT on a mid-drive ebike? Chains are loud and they break. Transmissions are mechanical, heavy and expensive. CVT's are lightweight, cheap, quiet and seem like the perfect solution...? Oh, and thanks for the 'legality' mention. LEO are tough here...
LOL the winning comment is "A comment below the video"!!! I used the bafang bbs02 (500) on a cargo bike conversion. I can't imagine using 1500w! DIYers can save a lot of money on the smaller / older bafangs unless they really have a need for speed. Don't forget that the average rim brake will have trouble with that much speed!
Interesting and informative video. No matter how powerful the Ebike, it can include built in limitations to meet local limit laws. Where it’s an electronic limit in settings that show up on the monitor, if it’s limited it should be passible with the Law. Of course, if User wants to go like hell which exceeds Law Limits, they would need to do it off road or on private property. Marty Didier
Laws are outdated and stupid. As a commuter i want to go from point A to point B as fast as i can. I'm not talking about fun rides, and of course while being fully respectful and aware of nearby riders. I can ride 25km/h in the city center, makes sense, but when I'm on an empty road i want to sent it. Why don't cars have a 120km/h locked top speed if anything faster is illegal?
I'm going to convert my wife's Electra Townie 3i bike with a mid-drive motor. I'm leaning towards a 36v500w Bafang BBS02. Her "Townie" has a front caliper brake and a rear "coaster brake." But I seem to have read somewhere that this type of back-pedal brake is not compatible with a mid-drive motor. Is this correct? Am I out of luck here or what? Your advice is greatly appreciated. Thank you.
Just got a used banshee chaparral and plan to convert it to mid drive 750w. Can you suggest a store in ali express for a complete set? Just worried about battery size since the triangle is small. Any suggestion? Mark
I have a 4 seat 4 wheel Rhodes Car that I bought years ago. I was never very happy with it for 3 reasons: the 20" bicycle tires are *REALLY* not up to the task of carrying 4 adults, especially since most of the weight is on the rear tires, only the front two people pedal which can get challenging in a hurry if there is even a slight incline, and the single rear band brake was absurdly inadequate. The rear passengers not only don't have pedals but they also sit mostly above the rear axle, and the front seats are aft of center, so the rear weight bias is massive. I tried to order dual brakes but it came with single and I never got that resolved. The company has changed hands twice since then and they have upgraded the brakes and also have electric assist available, but that doesn't help me with mine. To solve most of the problems, I've entertained replacing the rear wheels with "big wheel" scooter wheels or maybe even motorcycle wheels with disc brakes. With the massive weight bias, the front wheels and tires are probably fine but I could do the rears first and see how it rides. With just the rear wheels swapped it would have a cool T-bucket vibe, but there's something to be said for all 4 corners matching as well. With the brake and tire issues solved, I could add an electric motor to make locomotion much more pleasant. I wonder if one of these mid drives would be feasible, or if it would be better to just get a plain motor. It does seem like a mid drive would be unnecessary complexity since it has a solid axle and it would be very easy to just put a sprocket on the output shaft of a plain motor and another on the axle in an appropriate ratio. In case you're wondering, the drivetrain consists of two complete parallel systems of a single sprocket on the cranks with a 6-speed derailleur about halfway back, which has an output sprocket going to another 6-speed derailleur at the rear axle. That makes for an extremely wide 36-gear set of ratios, being biased mainly toward an incredibly short 1st gear rather than a high top speed, which is actually as it should be. This thing is for tooling around on weekends or in parades, not racing or high-speed touring. The main drawback to this system is that the derailleurs hang down low enough that they can sometimes be in harm's way, especially since the ground clearance is otherwise quite good with nothing else below axle level. It could use skid plates to protect the derailleurs, or better yet a hub gear system that would completely avoid that issue. The thing has been sitting in storage for years because it cost way too much to just junk and there's no way I could resell it for anything close to what I would need to not feel violated even more than I already do. Besides, the concept is fine and I *have* had some fun times with it on level ground, it just needs some tweaks to be a real blast. Do you have any advice on a project like this?
2 geared hub motors with throttle control's easy to install and the original gears aren't affected,so that's the boost to get it moving with 4 passengers and pedal assist.when you want. It sucks to put a lot of money in something and it doesn't do what it was advertised too do.if you are really sick of it then sell it on Craigslist or eBay you won't get much money but it won't be there to annoy you
@@ronaldharris6569 Thanks, but hub motors won't work for this application. The rear has a live axle and the front has steering knuckles, not forks. Just like a car or kart. The rear has an interesting setup to act as a differential: it has a freewheel on each end of the axle, so the outside wheel can turn much faster than the inside wheel is turning to prevent binding. Otherwise it would be impossible to turn the thing at low speeds because it's so wide. It works as a ratcheting positraction differential. It was optional, with the standard being one-wheel drive. The drawback for electrification is that powered reverse isn't possible, although that isn't much of an issue because Flintstones-style reverse by putting your feet down and pushing is not difficult.
My bbs01 is 250 watt motor so it’s legal here in the UK ,my understanding if your on private land then you can use any Bafang motor or if you use the bigger size motors on Uk roads then you will need to register your bike with DVLA. Eclipse ebikes probably sell world wide where each country has its own rules.
I am 6' 2" tall and 260 lbs. The 49/50cc scooters i have tried only go around 15 mph or so due to my size. That would be a kymco and a ruckus. Which electric would be a better fit? I have looked at both the 3000w cyclone and the bafang models. By wattage alone the 3000w model seems to be the chpice but what are your thoughts? I am converting a bicycle not buying a custom motor ans frame setup.
Building ebike from rc motor like 6384 motor 2000+watts with proper gear setup or like this ebike kit bafang etc 2000wats. Which one do you recommend I really like powerful ebike.
Like your videos and I have a question. Have you reviewed the CYC X1 pro gen 2 motor for dyi conversion for ebikes. I recently saw a RUclips video and would like your opinion for someone seeking an alternative to the bafang BBSHD. Also would like your opinion on their newer controller. It seems to be available for higher voltage and amperage for some who wants to hot rod there bike. Again I appreciate your reviews and would like your input.
Any tips on the best ways to secure electric bikes and accessories from being stolen. Electric bikes are great for commuting but I’m worried that being left in the city on the street some things may be stolen. Thanks
I just bought the new 50.4 v Bafang 100mm BB. Finding a new bike to put it on is tough. No one advertises the size of their BB. Trying to get a fatbike for it in the sub $500 range. Mongoose maybe but I can't find the BB size. Add that to the fact bikes are hard to come by. Maybe you could do a video on building an EBike using the new 50.v Bafang mid drive. Maybe do both BB sizes so people have an idea what to look for when buying a mid drive/bike.
I love the fact that you can buy an automobile that doubles the maximum speed limit and can kill people but you can’t ride an electric bicycle that goes over 20 miles an hour!
Yes, I live in a city with the most supercars per capita in the world, regularly they're caught at triple and quadruple the speed limit but the people that own them don't care, they can easily just buy another one if they have to... 🤔
Are there any good commuter bikes out there that would be good for country driving? I'm about 10 miles away from work and am looking for an alternative method of transportation, but it's 10 miles on country/ highway roads. Do any such bikes exist?
Where I live, people throw away bicycles quite often after letting them rot in the weather. I'd like to do one of these conversions but which *FREE* bike would be best in terms of frame design, etc? I have your battery book and am getting close to building my first test pack from recovered cells. Thanks!
When I think of all that torque, I think of broken spokes. I also think that if you could mate this with a Gates belt drive and an internal hub drive, that would be intriguing. With a 1.5 kw drive, I don't think you'd notice the weight of a Rohloff hub.
hey micah quick question, what are your thoughts about the cycx1 pro gen 2 mid drive kit? and which one will you recommend for reliability and off road capability? Thanks!!
I live in the uk and have the bbs02 48v750w and hit 32 mph and can keep it up on flats but along a grade comes an back down 2 16 to 22 say . I will be buying the bare bone motor from the US for 500 USD . Then i can stay anywhere from 35 to 25 with a decent 52v triangle frame battery . May upgrade to the bac 800 plug an play controller from grin and run at 30amps . So i will need a battery 2000wat plus contin and gain a bit more speed .
Great channel. I have ridden bikes with both the BBS-HD and Ultra. Both motors ate very powerful, and torquey. For your viewers could you do a review of the pros and cons of each motor and how they differ in ride dynamics?
The biggest difference doesnt come from the motor itself but from what you pair it with, Imean controller and display. A motor end of the day is a motor, is how you run it that makes the difference
If you're like me and can't shell out 6 grand minimum for an ebike then converting your own bike is the only option. I'm actually waiting on my 1000w bafang to come via fedex should be here Monday. I cannot wait to get this bike together. Already went and got durable chains and tires and have already took my bike apart just waiting. I had major back surgery some years back and have a bad back. It is very hard for me to ride a regular bike and not be in excruciating pain afterwards. With this motor I will be able to explore the countryside where I live. There are hundreds of miles of rolling hills and open pastures with a labyrinth of dirt/gravel roads and I will be able to freely ride and explore new places.
G’day from Australia I have been thinking of building a high powered ebike. Can you recommend a reliable hub motor? It would be good to be able to hit 60-70kmph and I am 100kg. There motors available but it’s quite hard to navigate through what is good and what’s not. Thanks
Bafang ultra is running as your pedal assist and it dont have thumb controller, is there any other motor from bafang that does the same with ultra from bbshd?
Johno Hi I just fitted a 1500W Rear Drive conversion Kit on my bike I brought a 48V 19.2 AH battery I be interested to know if there is any way to test the battery to find out if you get what you paid for what I mean is did the dealer sell you a 48V 19.2 AH battery or just a 48V battery 14AH ?? 16 AH?? etc
I have a motobecane Hal e it has the 43 volt Bafang battery and it’s really hard to get an extra battery . Is there anyway I can use the 48 volt battery ,I would even consider removal of a cell Thanks Kevin
I've seen some DIY mid motor kits installed and they all seem to remove the pedals from the crank rods. this seems totally unnecessary. Is it necessary to remove the pedals from the crank rods to install a midmotor?
Micah.. (sp?). I have the 750c full color display... when the sun is on the screen, i can't see any display information... Are there any full color sunlight readable bafang displays..? (Or any monochrome bafang displays that have Watts, Voltage, speed, ODO, Trip etc.. I really need to be able to monitor my speed and wattage consumption to optomize my Solar E-charging trailer.. Every single review of a full color display put out, the reviewer is demonstrating it inside of a garage. Yes, they are beautiful and colorful, but i don't ride my ebike inside or look for the shade of a tree to see how fast i'm traveling, or how many watts i'm consuming. It is too expensive to buy one of each and try all to figure out which of them you can see in direct sunlight. I know there are TFT and TMT color displays, But the 750c is TFT and it is useless in direct sun. What are the EbikeSchool.com recommendations for sunlight readable displays. Thanks Robb PDX USA
Get a KMC Ebike chain www.ebay.com/c/1955789156 they are reliable I went thru 3 chains on my BPM imports F1000 ebike before the upgrade as well as a Raceface Chainring and aftermarket chain guide and lower chain Slap guides. it's pretty much Bulletproof now. www.bpmimports.com/shop/bike-model/f1000/f1000w/ photos.app.goo.gl/4sBUguArZ6tWJLTw6
@@Harleyfunman I have a f1000 and keep going through the rear gears (chain skipping) I put a gear sensor and it helped but being in 7the Gear and 5 PAS seems like too much York for it.
Mika, I own a revive semi recumbent bike into a electric bike. I am wondering what you would suggest in terms of setup. Any help would b greatly appreciated. Keep the video doing and I'll keep watching.🤘👍🏻
Bbshd is an excellent piece of kit. Love mine its destroyed one bike, it's now on another. We absolutely hammer them over any terrain and make them fly lol.
@@gursisingh1940 it destroyed the back suspension traingle and where I had attached the battery to the bottle mounts (with extra support) it pulled them out.. Its was all the airtime and aggressive riding that killed it but it served me for 2 years... it was BMC full suspension.... I now have the kit on a scott genius with triple clamp forks. This time I have welded a plate on for the battery under the downtube... it's better balanced that way with all the weight low on the bike. My advice would be to secure the battery as tight as possible and after each ride if u are hitting ruff trails check your suspension fittings regularly. You will love it though its Lamborghini performance compared with the ebikes from the shops that cost the earth lol....
@@monkeytonker4637 I got a 2000 watt hub motor and is fantastic but is on a hardtail so looking at a full sus and wanted to try mid drive. Thanks will do that welding modification but I am not looking at hitting trails, probably some minor rough terrain but that's pretty much it
@@gursisingh1940 I have a gaint anthem with a hub motor 1000w.... I prefer the mid drive though because it gives u much more options with the gearing. Make sure u get a shift sensor because without one if you have the power on when changing it puts alot of stress on the drive train.... Lots of torque in the low gears. I think it could pull a train lol. I use the hub motor for mild trails and road. The serious off roading the bafang wins hands down.....
@@monkeytonker4637 yeah you re right, uphills and starts from stop hub motors pull too much power. But wither way I would raccomend highly full suspensions, hub motor on a hardtail is hella bumpy!!
I want to do a ebike conversion. There are so many options.. Which display would supply the needed information I need to get the most out of battery supply, ie, watts, volts, amps percentage or whatever I should be monitoring? And input would be helpful
Fat tire for e bike vs all other e bike tires. Are fat tires on e bikes (overly) dangerous because of blow outs on such a big tire with the higher speeds? (do foam inserts help in this area) Do fat tires reduce or eliminate need for suspension? Are fat tires less efficient ( battery life )? How about replacement, maintenance, and cost comparison?
I looking to get back into bicycling after a several year hiatus and looking for a recommendation because I have a somewhat different situation. I broke my ankle 8 years ago and have had multiple surgeries. My most recent being this April. I have talked to my orthopedic, podiatrist and physical therapist and none of them have said no. Just be cautious. This brings me to the recommendation. I probably want at least a class 2 that will allow me to use throttle from a stand still. Once I am moving I can pedal when I am comfortable and throttle when I am not. This also means battery is important too. Rad is aggressive with marketing so I am aware of them. I would use Rad City as a starting point. Appears to have nice features in a good price point. What else?
I’m finding it almost impossible to order a complete set up for my Norco Sasquatch 6.1 BBS HD would be preferred, but because of the geometry I need a battery inside a rear carrying rack. RA is preventing me from riding my bike, so I need something ASAP. Thanks! )
I have a 2003 specialized epic small frame mountain bike I would like to put a 500w motor on but I don’t think the battery will fit in the triangle part of the frame. What type of motor and battery set up would you suggest? I would buy another bike but I don’t have storage enough for 4 bikes as I’m going to need to add e motors to two bikes.
My spring project was a BBSHD 52v 17.5a kit into a Specialized Pitch Expert 1x10 Deore bike. The kit came from Electrifybike who had everything in-stock, unlike the more popular sites that are out of everything most of the time.. I bought an Eggrider display with it so I could custom program everything easily. It makes a huge difference in ride-ability when you can alter settings to stop the wheelies and chain slams, and find the sweet spots for cadence/gearing/workout/range and comfort. For chains that will last, get the KMC E series chains, made for Ebikes. They're not cheap, my E10 was $52 but they're the strongest you can buy. So far I'm loving this thing. Ordered new tires to get rid of the mountain bike knobby's for a more of street/path/cross country tire. This is exactly the workout is was looking for when I built this. I haven't ridden a bike since 1974. I'm 65 and I had reservations that this was going to hurt, a lot. Totally unfounded it turns out. My legs were trembling after the 1st 8 mile ride for 15 min after. Now 40 miles latter, my legs are fine, and get it gets my lungs and heart working hard, but nothing ever hurts the next day like I expected. Mark at Electrifybike was terrific to work with, highly recommend.
I have a BBSHD on a Cannondale bad boy. My car stays parked most of the time when the weather is above freezing. Its the best thing I've ever built! Some day I feel like a bike and take bike paths and other days (if im late for meeting up with friends etc.) I can basically be like a motorcycle and ride with traffic around town if needed.
I´ve using my BBSHD on a fat cargo bike on a dayly basis for 2 years now; 160 to 260 kg load, 36t chainring. 52v 10ah then 21ah (made out of Samsung 35E)battery. Superb climbing capabilities even with heavy loads. No issues! Just ripped apart a cheap "sunrace" 11-46t 30$ cassette, 2 spokes and a chain after 2400km.
BTW: you forgot to mention that the Bafang Ultra comes with torque sensor and the BBSHD not which is a big step back in terms of smooth pedaling
My bbshd is running a 3200w controller with metal gears and a 52v 25ah battery and 60amps . Its a beast . They guy who made the controller tested the control and motor in a torture test and the motor just sucks it up . The battery on the otherhand gets stressed a bit running flat out going up hills . I like the bbshd because you can put it in virtually any frame you want whilst the fixed motor only suits certain frames .
Bought my kit from em3ev and used it for 2 years now and extremly happy so far 👍
Got a WattWagon Hydra with the Bafang Ultra M620 & it's a Beast going up mountains & a dream down hill. Great Company to deal with & I've had Excellent Customer Service.
I get jealous every time I see an electric motor that strong on a bike. But I sure do appreciate you showing them to us.
Don't mid drives cause the chain to stretch or wear prematurely?
Fitted the bbshd into my full suspension boardman off road bike, great performance, but would recommend a gear sensor to cut off the power fractionally whilst changing gears as it is 160nm of torque! ...also recommend the lekkie type front sprocket, as it's alternate thick/thin sprocket teeth grips the chain a lot better than the stock pressed steel bafang one, another clever touch was fitting the 36v 250w sticker to keep the right side of the law! ..keep speed down and enjoy your ride!
Another Chinese e-bike builder using the Bafang M620 motor is Dengfu. Their USA office/brand name is Winice. I received the Merak or better known as the E56 model. It is a carbon fiber full suspension fat tire e-bike. Been riding it the last 6 months here in Monterey, CA. The local riding site is Fort Ord with a crazy web of single track trails consisting of most sand, most of it is hard pack but as the summer dryer months and useage extend the sand gets often softer. This is when the fat tires help out. It looks quite nice but the wheel is a bit long and it still weighs 83 lbs. It really isn’t that fun to jump and difficult to do rear wheel kick outs but for the most part is capable enough to keep up with others in group rides whom predominantly ride Specialized Levo mullet e-bikes.
I've had 9 of these bad boys so far. Amazing amazing amazing. Efficient, super powerful, easy to fix. Wheelie factories!!
Hey, I just put an order in for a Biktrix juggernaut Ultra Duo 1000. From your video I think it comes with Isis crank arms rather than square tape crank arms & bottom bracket. I have some issues with my knee range of motion (lack of full bending) but I use an adaptive crank shortener. There are some good availible short ISIS cranks from the unicycle people. There are also shorter square taper cranks availible but mainly lighter duty for kids bikes. Not sure if those will fit or if they will have enough "Q" factor to clear the motor and chain stays. Anyway hopefully, I will be able to source a spare set of cranks 0r to modify to my needs. Thanks for your view
BBS-HD is my current build. I'm building a battery for it soon, and I'll be using your book for some reference.
Hi we’re I can find book I need one
@@karimsant7362 amazon should have them all
Dont get the battery from ali xpress..louis rosman got one and it caught fire. Luckily it was outside.
He says EV3m3 or whatever is the place to go
Mike, I built an ebike 3 yrs ago and it's still going strong with the same li ion battery. But there are two things that I want now. A solar powered li ion boat and a li ion ultralite glider. I wish you would branch off into these two directions in your electric journey, so we can learn from you.
Does the battery still get similar range? Brand?
I've been riding a custom 72 volt 4kw bbshd since 2017 all over the USA As long as you don't break traffic laws you will never be stopped for your power output. I have 20k miles on street riding and have never been stopped. Even at speeds +45mph
Thank you for all your videos. I am now really in to e biking and have build my own battery thanks to your book.
The new belt drive non-drailer system is an exciting new system ❤️ no more chain breaking as new more powerful mid motors come out
Belts stretch too so it will require to be replaced just like a chain does...
@@gursisingh1940 Maybe in India belts stretch, a normal drive belt has nylon threads in it and it does not stretch.
@@va5715 correcting peoples wrong comment is good, but pulling their country or background into this ,just shows how well behaved and educated you are 😇.
Dude, build a single bike with a mid drive but ALSO add front and rear hub drives! 3 x monster! The world needs this.
Grin Technology out of Canada just made a video about doing this :)
Dude that would be crazy
@@gilbertorestrepo551 Sweet, thanks was looking at doing something like this.
@@jamesjohnson9557 I TOOK MY TWO 750 WATT MOTOR ARIEL RIDER D TWO WHEEL DRIVE BIKE AND PUT A BBHD CENTER DRIVE ON IT IT GOT TWO THROTTLES TWO TWO CADENCE PEDAL SENSORS BATTERIES AND A LOT OF FUN TO RIDE
I was thinking the same thing. Take advantage of easy starting from a stop and regenitive braking with the hub drives with speed and efficient hill climbing with the mid-drive motors. Less money replacing break pads and snapped chains.
Thank you for all your videos they have been very informative. I purchased a Biktrix Full Suspension and have been very happy with it, I had to make adjustments for my weight but overall I have been very happy with the bike. The reason I went with a Full Suspension bike was because hitting a bump at 35+ sucks. You mentioned that these motors can easily push 2000 to 2500 watts no problem. What is the best and safest way going about this. Thank you
Don't say this very often but this guy deftly knows his stuff. This channel is pretty awesome.
I recently pre-ordered an ebike that came with the Bafang Ultra. It’s the Nireeka Prime. (They start shipping in August) I’m so excited! It’s gonna be my first ebike too. Thanks for the helpful info!
Hi chris if you dont mind did you recieve and have you driven your new ebike from Nireeka.
Donald Bartholomew Hey Donald , I havent received it yet. They're a very small company and it takes quite awhile to receive their bikes. My delivery date says October 15th. Hopefully will be worth it, bc it's a gorgeous bike
@@eBikify Sounds great the reason I asked is im looking for a full suspension emtn bike with the bafang ultra. I already have a hardtail with the ultra and its really fast and gets up any hill with ease.
Donald Bartholomew nireeka has two models. The Homie and the Prime. The Homie is a traditional cadence sensor hub motor bike with a 500w motor with full suspension. The Prime is their much more powerful 1000w fat tire mountain ebike, with a mid drive motor and torque sensor. No suspension but you can upgrade it to have front air suspension fork. It doesn't offer rear suspension. But that's fine bc the fat tires provide some added comfort on their own.
I'm confused with Bafangs number and lettering system. For clarification, the BBS HD is a cadence motor, whereas the M620 is a torque sensor motor, correct?
Does the BBS HD have an alternate M# like M6?? Or is it just called the BBS HD?
LOL at 7:13 he gets a permanent smirk on his face. I laughed for some reason.
As a owner of a "tuned" BBSHD powered bike, as you already stated, the weekest part of the bike is now the trasmission (mainly chain, derailleur and cassette). Which options have you found that can work well with this much power? I mean 8-9speed (that are more then enough with this motors) with modern clutch derailleurs and wide range cassette that will last longer then normal XC bike parts... Thanks!
I've had two Freys with Bafang Ultra for a couple years now (early adopter), a fat tire and a mid fat, and they're both awesome! I also built a frame to hold a Bafang Ultra, but beware that the mounting plate only comes in aluminum (I haven't found one in steel), and welding aluminum requires post heat treating to achieve maximum strength.
I just converted a full suspension mountain bike with a BBSHD that I got through bafangusadirect
Great service
I've also dealt with electrifybike and they are great too
One small info, g520 is the code of the motor (ultra 1000w) m620 is the code of thw ecosystem, bafang recently adopted this policy, they name their motor with a code, but the complete system (motor display etc ) with other, that is why is called both g520 and m620.
I run this motor on my E bike. It's amazing.
How long do your chains last?
Will you do a review of the Bafang ultra excess controller to find out it really is more efficient and gives you 10-15% more range & runs cooler? Thanks!
I am starting an ebike build , i was going to weld and ultra motor bracket on the bike but they only come as far as i know in magnesium. Can this be welded to steel or is it aluminum only ? Thank in advace for your response , Big Rod of Oregon
Did you end up welding anything?
Im sooo tempted by the ultra, Andy Kirby is running his at 4KW and its just a beast...but..
Im running the Bafang G06 hub at 2.5KW peak and it motors along nicely and will climb set of stairs with ease.
Zero maintenance and still running original chain and sprockets without any wear after two years.
Yeah same here, done 3000 miles (4800 Km) on my 2kw hub motor and mever needed anything sorted out...DD hub motors are unbeatable in reliability and you can crank them up to double their nominal power, I could put 4kw through mine but 2kw is already more than I need.
For a moment I taught John Wick was telling me about e-bike motors
John Wick will be using an E-bike as his personal transport in his next movie. 😂😂😂
😂
When did you teach john wick about ebikes?
This guy is so handsome.
I haven't seen anyone mention anything about current draw so here's a little insight: It seems it would be good advice to go with a higher volt battery pack so that you can decrease the amps which would in turn keep controller temps down. Assuming you were going to run your bike at the MAX rated output of 1500 watts: a 52v 14Ah ($500 Panasonic GA) battery will give you a runtime of 29 minutes (theoretically) however that would be at 29 Amps! A 72v 10Ah ($620 triangle Panasonic GA) battery will give you about the same (theoretical) run time of 30 minutes HOWEVER current draw will be a LOT cooler at only 20 amps. Keep in mind all of this is based on a constant max motor output of 1500 watts WHICH NOBODY WOULD EVER RUN THEIR BIKE AT for a continuous 30 minutes.
As an older guy, I tend to think that I want a bike to ride like I did in my 20s. The Frey AM 1000 has been a sparkle in my eye since it was redesigned last year. Thanks for the motor description. Company was confident the de-tuned 750w program would make it trail legal in CA, but I am not so sure.
@Don Mega It can handle the wattage? Thanks
get one . you can outrun anybody after you on the trail ; D
Who cares about law
I just built an 1000W 48V ebike, but regreted the rear mounted battery. I am thinking of downsizing, could you please tell me how to select a frame mounted 48V battery, what current, and what connector should I choose?
Great videos. Love it. Thank you!
Hopefully, one day I see you talk about the CYC Proton motor
surprised he didnt mention buying from Bafang usa on amazon, save a BUNCH of money, thats where i got my bbshd kit, ships from a california warehouse, had it in less than week.
Same here, BAFANG shipped my BBSHD kit to me from right here in Las Vegas. Came Local Amazon Delivery. I had it and the Battery 2 days after I ordered it.
Thanks for the feedback. I live in WV and plan to order one asap. Looking at the BBSHD with a 52v 20ah battery.
1.5 KW is a great place to start.
Make a video about why 18650 cells are mostly used in ebike batteries. Like why not 20700? Or 21700? They are just a little bit bigger and got more capacity and current, but still, not many people use these
I've got a hotrodded BBSHD from Luna and I absolutely love it, but those Frey bikes sure do look like a future buy!
Hi, Is buffang bikes (G510, M620,M600) prices depending on manufacturer name? How do find quality products companies of buffang bikes.
Hey Micah....do you know if the BBSHD and the M615 are the same motor? And why cant the M625 be found on the bafang site? I want to stick with the bbshd because the parameters can be changed to max the top speeds! Seem alot of people are shying away from the newer M625 that has a proprietary SMile Battery. i surely dont want that and be limited in replacement battery choices and parameter settings. I do want the most recent version of the bbshd...is that the M615 in your opinion? thanks or your help !
Hello, I have a MTBike with the ultra max, which I adapted with a 36T chainring (thanks to Christini co in Philadephia and Karl G), Hope hubs, etc. I live in the french alps and do only mountain biking, the bafang ultra has proven to be great, although the frey frame and package is very heavy compared to my friends carbon eMTB... My question relates to the tuning of the engine, if you cover this. As the engine keeps going on a short while even after the pedaling has stopped. This can be critical in some situations... So if you have any advise, thank you, and sorry is my wording isn't perfect, I am a french national. Sincerely
Awesome video 👍. Please do a review of the qs 5000w or the 8000w ebike hub motor and good website or online store to buy it from. Please consider doing a review of the motor controllers and screen that would work with the qs hub motor. Have a good one.
I'm interested in a 26/4 fat tire, full suspension, with a concealed or partially concealed battery inside the frame. I would prefer it to have a 1500w motor to reach over 30mph but if a 1000w can get the job done that's fine. I was going to buy the Frey City Comute but realized its tires are relatively narrow. What is your recommendation around or below 3,000? BTW you'll find this question in several of your videos since I'm not sure how fast or if you'll respond. Thanks on advance...
If you want higher speeds, get a velomobile and equip it with one of these! My Mango easily exceeds 40mph with only 250W! (Downhill of course 🙂)
thank you
other ebikers recommend getting the bafang ultra. it looks great to me
im off to check on freya and others that have the ultra
I have a BBSHD because I need to travel high arching bridges over the intercoastal waterway. On the road I rarely need to go above PAS 1. I have had e bikes and used them as a main form of transportation for over ten years. But today I seem to be a rarity. Because I respect the laws in my state regarding our laws.
I have seen on ebay the bafang m500 - m600 ready to mount bike frame. So my question is : can the bafang m620 motor dirrect fit on these frames?
Or is the over all motor m620 bigger than the m500 and m600 motor?
A little confused here
I have an old mountain bike just begging for a electric conversion. Might look into getting a BBSHD.
I rode a friends fat tire e-bike that he built using a mid-drive 3.5KW (3500 watt) motor and 96V battery pack. Talk about nuts. It'll pull wheelies all day long and easily hit 45+ MPH (72 KPH). Riding a fat tire bike at that speed is a little scary, lol.
BBSHD ideal for old MTB, bottom bracket 68-73mm. Go 52v (over 48v) for higher power option. Even the BBS-02 rocks, 30+ mph with 52 tooth chain ring. The BBSHD 40mph.
Lol3.5kw can achive 100kmph Easley
Hey love your videos. What do I need to consider in terms of clearance? If this motor replaces my current front assembly it usually will hang down more? I still need to go down curves.
I am new to Ebikes, and i have a small budget. I have a decent pedal bike already and I am weighing my options between buy a in expensive Ebike, like the Lectric XP for $900, OR converting my pedal bike with a Bafang mid-drive for close to the same price. Assuming I have little to no experience working with electronics, which do you recommend and why?
Which mid drive do you favor most Befang, Shamano,or Bosch. There are a couple more but these seem to be most popular. I like your video BTW very informative and easy to understand.
Will a hub-drive work with a mid-drive on the same bike with dual throttles? Another thought, Is it possible to use a CVT on a mid-drive ebike? Chains are loud and they break. Transmissions are mechanical, heavy and expensive. CVT's are lightweight, cheap, quiet and seem like the perfect solution...? Oh, and thanks for the 'legality' mention. LEO are tough here...
LOL the winning comment is "A comment below the video"!!! I used the bafang bbs02 (500) on a cargo bike conversion. I can't imagine using 1500w! DIYers can save a lot of money on the smaller / older bafangs unless they really have a need for speed. Don't forget that the average rim brake will have trouble with that much speed!
Interesting and informative video. No matter how powerful the Ebike, it can include built in limitations to meet local limit laws. Where it’s an electronic limit in settings that show up on the monitor, if it’s limited it should be passible with the Law. Of course, if User wants to go like hell which exceeds Law Limits, they would need to do it off road or on private property.
Marty Didier
Laws are outdated and stupid. As a commuter i want to go from point A to point B as fast as i can. I'm not talking about fun rides, and of course while being fully respectful and aware of nearby riders. I can ride 25km/h in the city center, makes sense, but when I'm on an empty road i want to sent it. Why don't cars have a 120km/h locked top speed if anything faster is illegal?
Sondor's new line has the Bafang Ultra. I've ordered mine and can't wait.
unfortunately Sondors is using a different controller to limit their bike to 750watts
I'm going to convert my wife's Electra Townie 3i bike with a mid-drive motor. I'm leaning towards a 36v500w Bafang BBS02. Her "Townie" has a front caliper brake and a rear "coaster brake." But I seem to have read somewhere that this type of back-pedal brake is not compatible with a mid-drive motor. Is this correct? Am I out of luck here or what? Your advice is greatly appreciated. Thank you.
Just got a used banshee chaparral and plan to convert it to mid drive 750w. Can you suggest a store in ali express for a complete set? Just worried about battery size since the triangle is small. Any suggestion? Mark
I have a 4 seat 4 wheel Rhodes Car that I bought years ago. I was never very happy with it for 3 reasons: the 20" bicycle tires are *REALLY* not up to the task of carrying 4 adults, especially since most of the weight is on the rear tires, only the front two people pedal which can get challenging in a hurry if there is even a slight incline, and the single rear band brake was absurdly inadequate. The rear passengers not only don't have pedals but they also sit mostly above the rear axle, and the front seats are aft of center, so the rear weight bias is massive. I tried to order dual brakes but it came with single and I never got that resolved. The company has changed hands twice since then and they have upgraded the brakes and also have electric assist available, but that doesn't help me with mine.
To solve most of the problems, I've entertained replacing the rear wheels with "big wheel" scooter wheels or maybe even motorcycle wheels with disc brakes. With the massive weight bias, the front wheels and tires are probably fine but I could do the rears first and see how it rides. With just the rear wheels swapped it would have a cool T-bucket vibe, but there's something to be said for all 4 corners matching as well. With the brake and tire issues solved, I could add an electric motor to make locomotion much more pleasant. I wonder if one of these mid drives would be feasible, or if it would be better to just get a plain motor. It does seem like a mid drive would be unnecessary complexity since it has a solid axle and it would be very easy to just put a sprocket on the output shaft of a plain motor and another on the axle in an appropriate ratio.
In case you're wondering, the drivetrain consists of two complete parallel systems of a single sprocket on the cranks with a 6-speed derailleur about halfway back, which has an output sprocket going to another 6-speed derailleur at the rear axle. That makes for an extremely wide 36-gear set of ratios, being biased mainly toward an incredibly short 1st gear rather than a high top speed, which is actually as it should be. This thing is for tooling around on weekends or in parades, not racing or high-speed touring. The main drawback to this system is that the derailleurs hang down low enough that they can sometimes be in harm's way, especially since the ground clearance is otherwise quite good with nothing else below axle level. It could use skid plates to protect the derailleurs, or better yet a hub gear system that would completely avoid that issue.
The thing has been sitting in storage for years because it cost way too much to just junk and there's no way I could resell it for anything close to what I would need to not feel violated even more than I already do. Besides, the concept is fine and I *have* had some fun times with it on level ground, it just needs some tweaks to be a real blast.
Do you have any advice on a project like this?
Great question. Hope he answers it.
2 geared hub motors with throttle control's easy to install and the original gears aren't affected,so that's the boost to get it moving with 4 passengers and pedal assist.when you want. It sucks to put a lot of money in something and it doesn't do what it was advertised too do.if you are really sick of it then sell it on Craigslist or eBay you won't get much money but it won't be there to annoy you
@@ronaldharris6569 Thanks, but hub motors won't work for this application. The rear has a live axle and the front has steering knuckles, not forks. Just like a car or kart.
The rear has an interesting setup to act as a differential: it has a freewheel on each end of the axle, so the outside wheel can turn much faster than the inside wheel is turning to prevent binding. Otherwise it would be impossible to turn the thing at low speeds because it's so wide. It works as a ratcheting positraction differential. It was optional, with the standard being one-wheel drive. The drawback for electrification is that powered reverse isn't possible, although that isn't much of an issue because Flintstones-style reverse by putting your feet down and pushing is not difficult.
Here in the UK purchased my bbs01 through Eclipse ebikes they have full range of Bafang bbs series motors , also batteries plus other items
My bbs01 is 250 watt motor so it’s legal here in the UK ,my understanding if your on private land then you can use any Bafang motor or if you use the bigger size motors on Uk roads then you will need to register your bike with DVLA. Eclipse ebikes probably sell world wide where each country has its own rules.
Is it possible to use a mid drive motor with a front gear set or is the motor strong enough that you don't need a front sprocket set.
I am 6' 2" tall and 260 lbs. The 49/50cc scooters i have tried only go around 15 mph or so due to my size. That would be a kymco and a ruckus. Which electric would be a better fit? I have looked at both the 3000w cyclone and the bafang models. By wattage alone the 3000w model seems to be the chpice but what are your thoughts? I am converting a bicycle not buying a custom motor ans frame setup.
I just ordered me a bike with a Ultra motor and belt drive, Cant wait to get it here!!
Building ebike from rc motor like 6384 motor 2000+watts with proper gear setup or like this ebike kit bafang etc 2000wats. Which one do you recommend I really like powerful ebike.
Like your videos and I have a question. Have you reviewed the CYC X1 pro gen 2 motor for dyi conversion for ebikes. I recently saw a RUclips video and would like your opinion for someone seeking an alternative to the bafang BBSHD. Also would like your opinion on their newer controller. It seems to be available for higher voltage and amperage for some who wants to hot rod there bike. Again I appreciate your reviews and would like your input.
Any tips on the best ways to secure electric bikes and accessories from being stolen. Electric bikes are great for commuting but I’m worried that being left in the city on the street some things may be stolen. Thanks
another banger of a video, love the energy
Can I install Mid drive center motor bafang in my e bike rear hub motor together without burning the rear hub motor
I just bought the new 50.4 v Bafang 100mm BB. Finding a new bike to put it on is tough. No one advertises the size of their BB. Trying to get a fatbike for it in the sub $500 range. Mongoose maybe but I can't find the BB size. Add that to the fact bikes are hard to come by. Maybe you could do a video on building an EBike using the new 50.v Bafang mid drive. Maybe do both BB sizes so people have an idea what to look for when buying a mid drive/bike.
The complete ebike kit link is not working. Where do I find a link or a frame I can purchase as I really want to get started! Thank you.
I love the fact that you can buy an automobile that doubles the maximum speed limit and can kill people but you can’t ride an electric bicycle that goes over 20 miles an hour!
Yes, I live in a city with the most supercars per capita in the world, regularly they're caught at triple and quadruple the speed limit but the people that own them don't care, they can easily just buy another one if they have to... 🤔
Just don’t listen
28 on pedal assist, since we're so much safer and more stable while spinning our legs at racing speed than just sitting on a throttle lol so dumb
15mph if you live in England 🙄 I guess the power output dictates whether you need a license or not
@@D4Z35All Europe
Are there any good commuter bikes out there that would be good for country driving? I'm about 10 miles away from work and am looking for an alternative method of transportation, but it's 10 miles on country/ highway roads. Do any such bikes exist?
Where I live, people throw away bicycles quite often after letting them rot in the weather. I'd like to do one of these conversions but which *FREE* bike would be best in terms of frame design, etc? I have your battery book and am getting close to building my first test pack from recovered cells. Thanks!
When I think of all that torque, I think of broken spokes. I also think that if you could mate this with a Gates belt drive and an internal hub drive, that would be intriguing. With a 1.5 kw drive, I don't think you'd notice the weight of a Rohloff hub.
hey micah quick question, what are your thoughts about the cycx1 pro gen 2 mid drive kit? and which one will you recommend for reliability and off road capability? Thanks!!
I live in the uk and have the bbs02 48v750w and hit 32 mph and can keep it up on flats but along a grade comes an back down 2 16 to 22 say . I will be buying the bare bone motor from the US for 500 USD .
Then i can stay anywhere from 35 to 25 with a decent 52v triangle frame battery .
May upgrade to the bac 800 plug an play controller from grin and run at 30amps . So i will need a battery 2000wat plus contin and gain a bit more speed .
Hi. 250,750,1000,1500,2000 watt motors consume same energy, where speed and weight is constant. Can you explain this
Great channel. I have ridden bikes with both the BBS-HD and Ultra. Both motors ate very powerful, and torquey. For your viewers could you do a review of the pros and cons of each motor and how they differ in ride dynamics?
The biggest difference doesnt come from the motor itself but from what you pair it with, Imean controller and display. A motor end of the day is a motor, is how you run it that makes the difference
Friede sei mit dir, danke für die Hilfe, dein Bruder aus Marokko.What is the common problem for bafang bbshd 1000watt motors
If you're like me and can't shell out 6 grand minimum for an ebike then converting your own bike is the only option. I'm actually waiting on my 1000w bafang to come via fedex should be here Monday. I cannot wait to get this bike together. Already went and got durable chains and tires and have already took my bike apart just waiting.
I had major back surgery some years back and have a bad back. It is very hard for me to ride a regular bike and not be in excruciating pain afterwards. With this motor I will be able to explore the countryside where I live. There are hundreds of miles of rolling hills and open pastures with a labyrinth of dirt/gravel roads and I will be able to freely ride and explore new places.
G’day from Australia
I have been thinking of building a high powered ebike. Can you recommend a reliable hub motor? It would be good to be able to hit 60-70kmph and I am 100kg. There motors available but it’s quite hard to navigate through what is good and what’s not.
Thanks
35-40mph & hub motor don’t go in the same sentence... esp. for someone weighing 220lb 😂🤡
Bafang ultra is running as your pedal assist and it dont have thumb controller, is there any other motor from bafang that does the same with ultra from bbshd?
Where do i buy an e bike with the large Bafang 1000 Watt Motor without Fat Tires from a reliable US Company company? Does it exist? Thank you
I want to buy a dengfu E-10 carbon frame and a Bafang M600 motor but can't find a US seller...dengfu will not sell direct to US...can you help??
When I heard those motor destroy cassettes or chain I realize that what I need "Unlimited Powaaaaa" definitely is a must buy.
Johno
Hi I just fitted a 1500W Rear Drive conversion Kit on my bike I brought a 48V 19.2 AH battery I be interested to know if there is any way to test the battery to find out if you get what you paid for what I mean is did the dealer sell you a 48V 19.2 AH battery or just a 48V battery 14AH ?? 16 AH?? etc
Which e-bike is good for riders that weigh over 300 pounds that is somewhat affordable (less than $1500) and still has a pretty good range?
I have a motobecane Hal e it has the 43 volt Bafang battery and it’s really hard to get an extra battery .
Is there anyway I can use the 48 volt battery ,I would even consider removal of a cell
Thanks Kevin
I've seen some DIY mid motor kits installed and they all seem to remove the pedals from the crank rods. this seems totally unnecessary. Is it necessary to remove the pedals from the crank rods to install a midmotor?
Micah.. (sp?). I have the 750c full color display... when the sun is on the screen, i can't see any display information... Are there any full color sunlight readable bafang displays..? (Or any monochrome bafang displays that have Watts, Voltage, speed, ODO, Trip etc.. I really need to be able to monitor my speed and wattage consumption to optomize my Solar E-charging trailer.. Every single review of a full color display put out, the reviewer is demonstrating it inside of a garage. Yes, they are beautiful and colorful, but i don't ride my ebike inside or look for the shade of a tree to see how fast i'm traveling, or how many watts i'm consuming. It is too expensive to buy one of each and try all to figure out which of them you can see in direct sunlight. I know there are TFT and TMT color displays, But the 750c is TFT and it is useless in direct sun. What are the EbikeSchool.com recommendations for sunlight readable displays. Thanks Robb PDX USA
Hallo,what do you think about the frameset SEROXAT on Aliexpress? It's avaible for Spain? Thanks.
I converted my Rans recumbent to the BBSHD with a 52 volt battery. Do you know of a heavy duty chain that I could buy that has 128 links. Thanks.
Get a KMC Ebike chain www.ebay.com/c/1955789156 they are reliable
I went thru 3 chains on my BPM imports F1000 ebike before the upgrade as well as a Raceface Chainring and aftermarket chain guide and lower chain Slap guides. it's pretty much Bulletproof now. www.bpmimports.com/shop/bike-model/f1000/f1000w/ photos.app.goo.gl/4sBUguArZ6tWJLTw6
@@Harleyfunman I have a f1000 and keep going through the rear gears (chain skipping) I put a gear sensor and it helped but being in 7the Gear and 5 PAS seems like too much York for it.
Mika, I own a revive semi recumbent bike into a electric bike. I am wondering what you would suggest in terms of setup. Any help would b greatly appreciated. Keep the video doing and I'll keep watching.🤘👍🏻
Bbshd is an excellent piece of kit. Love mine its destroyed one bike, it's now on another. We absolutely hammer them over any terrain and make them fly lol.
How did it destroy a bike and what bike was it? I am about to put it on a giant stance 2 2018
@@gursisingh1940 it destroyed the back suspension traingle and where I had attached the battery to the bottle mounts (with extra support) it pulled them out..
Its was all the airtime and aggressive riding that killed it but it served me for 2 years... it was BMC full suspension.... I now have the kit on a scott genius with triple clamp forks. This time I have welded a plate on for the battery under the downtube... it's better balanced that way with all the weight low on the bike.
My advice would be to secure the battery as tight as possible and after each ride if u are hitting ruff trails check your suspension fittings regularly.
You will love it though its Lamborghini performance compared with the ebikes from the shops that cost the earth lol....
@@monkeytonker4637 I got a 2000 watt hub motor and is fantastic but is on a hardtail so looking at a full sus and wanted to try mid drive. Thanks will do that welding modification but I am not looking at hitting trails, probably some minor rough terrain but that's pretty much it
@@gursisingh1940 I have a gaint anthem with a hub motor 1000w.... I prefer the mid drive though because it gives u much more options with the gearing. Make sure u get a shift sensor because without one if you have the power on when changing it puts alot of stress on the drive train.... Lots of torque in the low gears. I think it could pull a train lol.
I use the hub motor for mild trails and road. The serious off roading the bafang wins hands down.....
@@monkeytonker4637 yeah you re right, uphills and starts from stop hub motors pull too much power. But wither way I would raccomend highly full suspensions, hub motor on a hardtail is hella bumpy!!
I want to do a ebike conversion. There are so many options.. Which display would supply the needed information I need to get the most out of battery supply, ie, watts, volts, amps percentage or whatever I should be monitoring? And input would be helpful
Fat tire for e bike vs all other e bike tires.
Are fat tires on e bikes (overly) dangerous because of blow outs on such a big tire with the higher speeds? (do foam inserts help in this area)
Do fat tires reduce or eliminate need for suspension?
Are fat tires less efficient ( battery life )?
How about replacement, maintenance, and cost comparison?
I looking to get back into bicycling after a several year hiatus and looking for a recommendation because I have a somewhat different situation. I broke my ankle 8 years ago and have had multiple surgeries. My most recent being this April. I have talked to my orthopedic, podiatrist and physical therapist and none of them have said no. Just be cautious. This brings me to the recommendation. I probably want at least a class 2 that will allow me to use throttle from a stand still. Once I am moving I can pedal when I am comfortable and throttle when I am not. This also means battery is important too. Rad is aggressive with marketing so I am aware of them. I would use Rad City as a starting point. Appears to have nice features in a good price point. What else?
I’m finding it almost impossible to order a complete set up for my Norco Sasquatch 6.1 BBS HD would be preferred, but because of the geometry I need a battery inside a rear carrying rack. RA is preventing me from riding my bike, so I need something ASAP. Thanks! )
I have a 2003 specialized epic small frame mountain bike I would like to put a 500w motor on but I don’t think the battery will fit in the triangle part of the frame. What type of motor and battery set up would you suggest? I would buy another bike but I don’t have storage enough for 4 bikes as I’m going to need to add e motors to two bikes.
Hi Mike.The batteries are very heavy, do you know if there are any carrying handles to buy for them.