Is it too late to STOP playing Genshin?
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- Опубликовано: 14 июн 2024
- While Fontaine has done a fantastic job of bringing new life to the game, burnout remains a common topic in the Genshin community.
I don’t have Genshin burnout, and still enjoy playing it every day. However, I’ve talked to a lot of people who do, or who aren’t enjoying the game as much as they did during the early days, but they’re always very reluctant to stop.
Why is that? Are there ways to avoid it?
And is it ever too late to quit Genshin?
While each person’s experience is unique, from what I’ve seen these feelings tend to be a blend of several things.
Let’s take a look at the most common factors, how a change of perspective on each of them can help rekindle the love for Genshin, and walk through one feature which can help people more easily make the decision to take a break - and why that can make it easier to come back and enjoy the game later on.
00:00 Intro
00:48 Wasted Time
03:54 Wasted Money
06:37 Wasted Emotions
09:05 Long Waits
10:05 Taking a Break
12:17 Conclusion
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Once you Gensh-IN, you're not allowed to Gensh-OUT...
I stopped 😌
@@oarabilenoko5979You’re our strongest soldier 🫡
Thanks cyno
B-but 😢
But when you are Gen-OUT there is too much materiall to go through to GENshIN
Something that got me out of genshin burnout was getting into lore and theories on it. The analyzing, the book reading, analysis of locations and their connections (chasm+enka+parts of fontaine). You get an ENTIRELY different view of the world once you really dig into what's going on in the background. 10/10 would recommend.
This is very true! It took me a long time to get interested in lore, but the more I rea dup, the more fascinating it is! Looking moredeeply into character back stories is also somethign that has made a huge effect on how I view characters - I really wish more of their personality and depth was shown through the story... Though I must say fontaine archon arc has done a great job of this!
this game really helps me cope with things irl to the point where ive spend countless hours and have everything 100. i recently realized that i needed to quit because it takes up all my free time and this really encouraged me to do so. thank you.
new daily commission system is insanely great improvement, im still applauding for that change
What was the change? I just came back after a long break and have been doing dailies normally I think
You dont have to do the comissions to get the rewards, if you do a mission, get a chest, etc it will grant you the dailies rewards without needing to do them everyday. Its great for people who want to explore or do many missions and still get the rewards!
I had a small fear that the only reason I played Genshin was because my friends were playing but I got proved wrong when hsr came out and all my friends tried it and I was the first to stop because I simply wasn’t enjoying it. So I’m glad to know that Genshin is just a game I simply enjoy
Sometimes it's really difficult to tell apart true enjoyments and habit+fomo.. Glad you figured it out tho for your own peace of mind if nothing else! 🥰
This is how I feel about Honkai Star Rail, I feel like I'm not really enjoying the game only because it's something that people like and I want to have my experience to change, there's just so many things to grind especially when you're a new account and I get burnout quite easily, I shouldn't be wasting time on playing something I don't enjoy but what I like about Star Rail is mostly the characters, that is the main reason why I stick on playing it.
I think you got overwhelmed since I assume you want to catch up with everything in the game. But trust me when I say HSR isn't as punishing as GI when it comes to daily mission and farming. Take your time playing the game, I quit genshin because I don't have enough time to play it anymore but with HSR, I can use auto for farming and it just took me 1 hour to finish everything I need to do per one day.
I only need like ... 15-30 mins for everything in genshin ... so i dont think it is that timeconsuming at all. But i have to admit that trying to catch up with everything doesnt work that well in any game like genshin or honkai star rail, it just takes time.
All very well reasoned thoughts! It's the journey, not the destination!
I ❤️ your discussion about money spent on leisure and the stigma about spending on a game. I have never thought of it that way, and now feel a lot less bad about purchasing battle pass. 😊
I've purchased way more than the battle pass during a couple of weak moments, and looking at it this way eased my money anxious mind immensely 😁
Good video and sound advice!
On the flip side, looking back at the games I once loved and stop playing, it usually boiled down to one of 3 things:
- 1) It started to feel like a job just to log in and do the things I needed to do to keep up.
- 2) The servers were dead with hardly anyone playing the game (so I moved on too).
- 3) The developers took the game in a direction that was too hard or undesirable (such as increasing PVE difficulty too much or forcing PVP).
Overall it comes down to just how much a person is will to put up with when it comes to gaming. So I can understand burnout very well.
Summary: Tedious end game loops, decline in player base, and poor game direction are the three most common ways to drive people away from your game.
What you have said is pretty much accurate to the feelings of many players for genshin, but I have recently been looking at these things with a different perspective which helps me to break the cycle much quicker. I believe there is never a too late to quit any game because games are for FUN. No matter how much hours or money you spent on a game you don't have to think it was a waste to do so if you are going to quit because the hours and money you spent on the game were for the sake of enjoyment, sometimes we look at live service ongoing games as something that we should enjoy forever but in reality it exist for a long time because other players will want to join in and have fun later on. Just imagine you bought a PC and you know it wont last forever, and even if it did, YOU won't last forever to keep using it, even a snack is temporary yet we keep spending to eat more food and yet we don't regret it. Maybe look at it like this: when you spend time or money or both on a game, ask yourself if you had fun doing so, and if you did then it was not a waste, you got your money's worth and your time's worth, so moving on and taking a break should be no problem because you didnt just spend so much for the sake of the future but because you wanted to and got satisfaction out of it. So if you no longer having fun playing genshin even after spending so much time and money, then it would be the same as you finishing your burger or your car is super old and in need of a replacement, but the best part is, after a long break you could always come back IF you start to feel like playing it again. Sorry if my grammer or punctuation is off. I HOPE THIS HELPS TO VIEW QUITTING OR TAKING A BREAK IN A MORE HEALTHY WAY.
I don’t know I only spend 5-10 minutes on said game. I spend more time watching videos
Your video has helped me to not think about how much time I've spent of the game but to think about the enjoyment throughout the time. Great video!
thak you, I'm so glad! 😊
Well said, everything.
I ran into a "wall" in Genshin two times. Once, still in 1.0 when I totally did not expect the Archon quest line will end and I suddenly had nothing to do in the game for pretty long and painful period. But I was still in the honeymoon phase so I persevered and learned my lesson. And second time it happened when I finished my goal of fully leveling up and equipping all of my characters. I'm no friend of artifact farming so it was feeling really bad when it was the only thing that was left for me to spend my resin on. But since I learned my lesson back then in 1.0, I was able to switch gears and fill my time with other activities. There's a lot of things to do in Genshin and I am not shy doing all of them. And yes, taking it slow is the key. I couldn't just explore to fill my commission meter, I would not enjoy that. But since I enjoy exploring by running randomly all over the world, it does not really take me that little time to 100% a region. Where I do limit myself is in quests. One quest per day is my official limit and I only break it if I finish some quest when I'm not aware I'm doing a quest. If the quest feels long, I split it over two or more days too. It does not completely cover the time between patches but it helps a lot.
While I am spending money on Genshin and I have spent hundreds of dollars since I started, I never "invest" in it. I always pay for the fun I already had and if that spending helps me have more fun in the future, it's a good thing. When I stop enjoying Genshin, I will definitely have no regrets about money I spent on it, it was worth it many times over.
the only time I feel like I’m “wasting” money on genshin is if i’ve bought a welkin and i don’t try to log in every day. So far i’ve played almost every day since i started, and while I do feel the urge to not miss out on the daily primos (resin i don’t really care about unless i’m in the middle of building a character that i’m impatient to try out), i try to remind myself that my enjoyment of the game matters more than primos. Thus when a few months ago i suddenly woke up remembering that i’d only done half my commissions i simply thought oh well and went back to sleep 😂
yeah one of the reasons I stopped buying the welkin in HSR is that *right now* it has lost some of it's charm for me, and this way I don't "have to" log in if I don't feel like it!
I also forgot to do the leyline event yesterday and honestly I felt so good about the fct taht I was like "oh well it's just some 15 wit w/e! As a gaming addict that just made me feel so functional😂
great video! love how positiv it is. We have been playing Genshin everyday since launch. We havent burnt out yet. But happy to see a video to support those who have burned out.
Yeah I think people feel a lot of internal confusion and even "shame" when they start falling out fo love with something that was consumed their whole attention - I *almost* reached that point at one point during the later stages of sumeru, which is when I started thinking about the causes for it, and how to avoid it, and of course what it would mean if you can't avoid it!
Excellent points. The 2 week trial of quitting is a really good idea! Will recommend the video to friends who are considering :) Gj great vid!!
hank you so much!😊
also I can't agree with you more on the commission reform - I've been doing the same thing as you, doing a quest or some exploration til I get all 4 commissions checked out. it's been so exciting to log in and have the time to actually explore a little rather than spend it doing the same repetitive 4 quests. I look forward to it everyday 🥺
owwww this video hits really close to home 💜 as someone who already has taken multiple breaks over a span of two years of me logging in religiously and doing my dailies even if I'm on the brink of death, you don't miss out on anything by taking a break. on the contrary, I only really see the benefits. sure, you might miss a character banner or two, but then you log in for the first time in a while and you don't really think about it. the game sucks you back in and feels so wonderful and fresh and new and exciting, I'd rather be feeling that than the dread of logging in but still doing so just because I'm afraid to miss out on primos that I could use to get a character in the future. it was really scary to stop playing for the first time but it was unwaranted, I promise you that 💜
I'm in awe how universal this video is and it applies to so many things in our lives i love it even tho I've never played genshin i still relate to many things from this video
I think about this stuff a lot in all areas of life, and many times learning to change my perspective has helped me with a lot of internal struggles and feelings of 'failure' 💜
your background music so beautiful thats why ill never stop playing GI.
This vid hit me so hard, first I stopped spending because of Dehya,
To this moment I'm wondering...
Would I really enjoy those characters? (66 owned/60 full built) and skipped a lot,
I can't remember which one I pulled months before Furina
I feel weird because the purpose of abyss and collecting primos, contrasting to my lack of interest on new characters
What's the purpose of collecting them?,
they could be better than my already heavily invested characters,
But it's redundant to get them as I already have many teams ready
Maybe I'm staying solely for Lore, as if it were the true endgame
And in the end I started to buy physical games and playing another things like Nikke, and have been comfy there
Have been thinking, I'll see the story until the moment it becomes too Honkaish, I'll drop it for sure ✌️
Im curious, could you elaborate more on the story become more Honkaish?
@@diazpramudita5165 Probably repetitive or the game having too many honkai references?
@@anyaaa2801 that's right, until now Genshin story has sustained by itself,
It doesn't needs another game one to complement or made it complex, as honkai stories already exists and repeating them, would be a super lazy resource to fill text on Genshin
Imagine having to read 2 whole game histories; one you didn't like, to understand the ending of the one you liked?
@@blackabalah I see. Yes I agree it would be a lot more unique if Genshin doesn't have anything to do with Honkai world or Honkai world's fundamental mechanics, so Hoyoverse can also have varying world as the base of their future games.
2:42 focus on Ayaya, embrace Ayaka, become Kamisato!
4:30 a $100 steak dinner will satisfy you for an hour, lingering pleasure for maybe a week.
$100 to guarantee Ayaya? Eternal!
6:26 those thousands you spend on Ayaka? Think how much fun she brought you and how much more she will bring.
You feel that? It's your conscience! Ashamed that your Ayaka team is not yet C6R5!
Best regards,
Highly functional Ayaka Main
Well since I play genshin on my ps5 I use my c6 r5 ayaka more than my laptop.
Ur so me.
😭😭😭
❤TRU THO❤
@@MrJayslayerjayI admire players that C6 let alone R5 that’s when you know that person absolutely adores their main
The way I see it, Genshin tends to pump out quality content, quality characters, and quality environments. Even if I missed some things, I know they'll be there's gonna be cool shit when I come back. Especially characters, every character seem like a must have at first, after the banner ends and you've not collected them, the fomo goes away. I've wanted Venti ever since he came out, now I dont even care about the cute ass femboy.
Oooo love philosophical Saurus!
hahahah look I've bene thinking about this a LOT because I see a lot of people burn out, and even I almost came close at one point!
This is something that I also hink about a lot in terms of content creation; I don't have 'goals' because 1. if I don't hit those goals I feel like I've 'failed' regardless of whether they're in my control or not and 2. they distract me from the reason I actually do what I do; share the things I enjoy as well as my thoughts, and connect with people 💜
I have bits of hiatus where i was free of genshin for a few months here and there but i still end up coming back to the game it's like it was calling to me if i know this was gonna be so addicting i wouldn't even start in the first place😭😭😭
Long wait is definitely the reason for me to take a break from this game, my plan to wait it out until all the main story archon quest are finally complete then binge it in one sitting, also did it with my favourite anime or tv series, just wait until final episode is out then binge watch all of them at once
I greatly enjoy just roaming the world sometimes. When I’m stressed, I swim in Fontaine to forget for a while. It’s “wasting” so much time, but I feel better after, so for me it’s a perfectly equivalent exchange. Not all have my values, nor do you need to.
That's exactly why I *don't* think it's "wasting" time!
Sunk Cost Fallacy definitely kept me playing a lot longer than I was enjoying it. I started at launch, but ultimately quit during Dehya's release banner. Part of it was just that playing every day was a habit at that point, and part of it was definitely the "if I quit now, all the time/money I put in will retroactively be wasted," but pulling the plug was ultimately the right decision.
I just wish I could have come to that conclusion *before* spending a last bit of money for C1 Dehya. I was coping so hard that surely she wasn't as bad as people were saying and that C1 would solve her issues... but it didn't and I quit a few days later.
when i don't have anything to do in exploration i make a rule to not teleport during dailies unless a point is three or more teleport waypoints away. if it is less I walk through the game and enjoy that atmosphere music and sounds once again and it fills me up enough to enjoy genshin again with lots of passion. what I found out in a cruel way is that genshin impact has incredible open world yet.. it isn' really designed around constant exploration at all. maybe the only permanent exploration content is laylines but some players would surely prefer to ignore them at all costs to spend their resin on artifacts or weekly bosses which is reasonable at some point of view. what I would love genshin has made is two weeks given to re-do some old regional domains (the music from liyue domain is insane but we don't even experience it anymore even in the open world, that is a crime bring me neuvillette he gotta judge- ) & to make us casually engage with open world a bit more. at least force us to enkanomiya and the chasm underground idk, they are left out so much yet are so beautiful & the only reason I go there is made by myself - to collect some 1 star artifacts to power up 5 star ones. but it is copium for real. still, I enjoy the game a lot (yes by corium with no teleports and artifact collecting, who are you to judge me- ) and one day they will do something about it I do believe in that
YES I would love the ability to redo some of the single-time domains! Having chests or puzzles respawn more frequently would also be a nice touch, and provide more use for the treasure compasses :)
When theres a new patch, I play for hours and when the content has run out, I just do my dailies and I'm out. And I'll be other games or do other stuff. This allowed me to not get burned out. The only beef I've got with genshin is the QOL changes. They're so stingy and late with those.
When i was burnt out in genshin last year because of sumeru i decided to find new ways of enjoying the game, up untill then i had only been playing for the exploration and the thrill of getting the character u had saved for and farmed for. I took a break for 1 or 2 months and i decided to switch up how i was playing the game insteaed of exploring farming primogems and all that i decided to actually read the quest dialouges even tho it takes a while i found it to be enjoyable and made me feel less burnt out, i invested myself in the lore and found a new way to enjoy the game, now im not as burnt out and i have just recently completed the fontaine archon quest and it was really good im looking forward to exploring fontaine and seeing what more lore it has
Love that!
i think what dismotivate me is that i cant farm enough artifacts within a short time due to resin and for a casual game telling me that i have to wait for monday to get my material and not giving me the option to save up energy for sunday is against that casual mindset as game moves by it feels like you will never get to level all your characters, in short once i look at the resin i feel like im not allowed to play
I feel like people are still somewhat recovering from the after effects of how terrible the Sumeru desert was. As someone who made the mistake of 100%ing the entirety of Sumeru, it was a special kind of hell that I don't wish upon even the worst of my enemies.
that is precisely what *almost* caused a burnout for me too! I'm really glad I got past that, but it's increidble how many people had an almost identical eperience..
This game... & playing this game with you & your community got me through one of the hardest times in my life. I could never quit this game. I could never abandon it.
That being said, I go through periods where all I do is open the game, collect my welkin & shut it down. I know eventually the mood will strike when I will want to go exploring, questing, farming, etc..
I've said it before, I'm a seriously casual... or casually serious(???🤔) player. To me, that means I am in it for the long haul, but I've learned to let the FOMO go. If I don't get a character I wanted, I'll just try my luck again on their rerun. But as long as hoyo is making Genshin Impact, I'll be playing it!🥰
FIRST & I love yooouwuwuwuwuwuwuwuwuwu ❤❤❤
It's harder than some people would think (ignoring fomo), proud of you! 🥰🧡
@@saurusness Genshin FOMO is REAL!!😅 It was your consistent gentle reminders that characters will rerun eventually that really helped me let go of character FOMO. Now event FOMO is something I'm still working on, but I really do love playing the majority of Genshin's special events so it's okay!🥰
Great video. I'm happy you tackled this quite difficult topic. Genshin is my first long-term gaming commitment so I've had to adjust. Expectations and time management were key for me, still I'm very much aware of the fact that while there's really nothing to lose by stepping away from the game for any amount of time - it's just psychologically hard to do.
The hardest part is all the missable cutscenes and lore for me if you don't do every event
This is true! Though on the flipside there are always people who reupload the playthroughs and cutscenes on youtube, in case you ever do miss an event :)
929 days in with not a day missed, doubt that will change as I did the same with Onigiri for 7 years until the server shut down. My time is precious so I will continue to spend as much of it as possible doing things I enjoy.
Peecisely this 😊
this is a great video. i play since launch, but i had multiple big breaks, the last one was from before the chasm up until you could summon furina, so a really, really long time i guess. i just logged in once in a while to pull for a character, since you get some primos even if you are not playing. when i saw and got furina i really got pulled in again. and the game has so much content i dont think i will ever be able to finish everything it would take me longer than finish university :D
I have burted out of genshin 3 to 4 times. Each lasting about a month or two, but the last 4th time lasted for a year. Playing from the first week of genshin, nowadays it's not as easy to burn out for some reason than it's used to be, when there was only 2-3 nations. Last time I burted out for a year I still didn't wanna hold the progress of my account, so I paid a guy I trust 50$ a month to play in my account every day for a year 💀 From now on whenever I feel I wanna take a rest, I will do that. I will pay someone to keep my progress going.
It's quite an experience to not recognize your own account when you come back after months of rest, characters, weapons, all maxed out. But the most important part, it's primos is way more than you left the account with
Ooh yeah if you have someone you can trust who's up for doing that then yeah that's probably the best of both worlds!
They've def made some great updates to help with this stuff, kinda surprising how big a difference they actually make since each update feels comparatively small.
@@raptori Indeed, I left genshin when there was only Chasm, Imagine my surprise discovering Sumeru AND Fontane at the same time! It has just been one mouth since I returned. 3 new world bosses and tons of Archon, character and world quests to complete)
@@_Kaori_Miyazono_ Oh wow yeah that'd be a lot! Especially the Sumeru desert all at once 😅
Here I am, 1.0 player who has never missed a day of login
The thing that burned me out the most was:farming and spiral abyss, I'm an exploration addict, I tend to 100% a region within a week of release and then I have a rule for myself to always finish quests within the end of the patch (sometimes I might save an hangout for an upcoming dry update)
How did I stay consistent? I just... Didn't do the things I didn't want to do, I didn't farm for months at a time, I was throwing absolutely the worst builds on my newest characters cause I couldn't be bothered to enter a domain, I wasn't doing the spiral abyss cause combat bleh, etc... Sometimes between opening and closing the game it would take like 10 minutes tops.
With a routine like that days were I felt more motivated and did more were like a reward for myself: look, you've farmed talent books, now you have what you need!
And very recently I've been back with newfound resolutions and am farming until I exhaust my resin every day, it took me a year of not forcing myself to do those things to get to this point though 😅
Definitely seems like the no. 1 cause for burnouts is feeling "obligated" to do something you don't enjoy, and the cure is just realising you don't actually "have to" do it! 😁
I've taken a break from genshin for like a year, played another game
and now I'm back to genshin because of archon quest. And boy how liberating it is after 2 years of being slave to gacha game, spending for monthly and BP, and sometimes buying GC just to chase that extra pity.. Now I'm playing as f2p . I dont care about resin, I just do event/quest to complete daily and such.
The thing which burns me out the most is building characters, since it is both grindy and time-gated. At least HSR doesn't day-lock materials. I've been running basically the same team since 2.1 and it's a pain to even get every character to level 80 with decent weapons and artifacts
I want and don't want to play Genshin at the same time, It do be like that
Music selection is on top, as always!
I have not burnt out from Genshin yet but I wish they have increased the resin cap, so I would not have to worry about logging in twice a day before it reaches the cap.
I've burnt out a bit of Star Rail with the latest event (it was very boring to me), so I took a little ~10 days break from the game, and now I feel much more motivated to play. So, that would be my advice to anyone feeling burnt out, just go on a little "holiday" from the game and maybe after that you will feel motivated again. And if not, it will be easier to let it go, since you have skipped some days already.
Exactly! I also wish they would increase resin cap to the point where a single login a day would be sufficient, but in the meanwhile I'm also training myself not to worry so much about capped resin 😁
i def agree with you, and sometimes it feels like hoyo's game plan is to capitalize off of people's FOMO, which can be incredibly frustrating. i'm grateful that's not the case as much in HSR with some recent changes, but it's still exhausting having so many games where you need to go in day in and day out just to maximize resin and primos. if i'm not feeling resin, i won't force myself to do it, which took a lot of reassuring myself to do. i have to respect myself if i'm in a slump and not push myself to go above and beyond if i'm not feeling up to it. that's how burn out happens 😮💨but usually the enjoyment comes back sooner or later! 🥰
I wish they let us meet character outside of their quest. Maybe even have daily event and random event having them.
Yeah I'd love this. At the very least they should show up on their birthday, especially when they talk about some special location - it's so odd that they're not there!
If they were just there in the world doing stuff then the world would feel way more alive for sure.
i was about to dropped this game along time ago (after not playing it in a year). it was at patch 2.4. i got plenty of chars (hutao, shenhe, xiao, zhongli) and then i've already built them strong enough at the openworld until it feels like everything just die on 1-3 hits. i was really bored, like REALLY. not only because the adventure rank was ramps up quiet slowly at that time (54 to 55), but im a completionist (not that insane tho, which i cant see myself fishing a total of 2k fishes even till these days lmao). but then i remember what makes me hooked in this game, the story. i looked up many lore cc like Ashikai for a known example and absolutely love the game once more. not only that, i also love building my chars even if im not that minmax most dmg output kinda guy, but still, seeing a chunks of my chars growing stronger over the course of 3(?) years playing this game really is satisfying. i also dont wanna block myself with the pride of "im f2p in a gacha games wow im so good" kinda thing. i've spent alot of money, not that WHALE whale tho, just a feeble dolphin. And i never regret any dime i've spent on this game, and still continuing till today (yesterday i got haran after buying the battlepass for the 12nd or 13rd times i dont know, i forgor fr). And i can still see myself playing this game regularly til the end of its story.
anyway, genshin anime when? 😭
Genshin anime NOW or we riot! I also *almost* had a burnout due to completionism; for me it was during the later sumeru era when I wanted to explore and 100% my maps but the exploration was constantly being blocked by long world quests that I felt "forced" to do, after I changed my perspective and stopped chasing those goals, it made a massive difference, and the world quests no longer felt like an 'obstacle', but something I can save for when I feel like enjoying a bit of story gameplay! ^^
@@saurusness to be fair, the desert world quests are the top quests, except maybe the sorush thingy which i did it at midnight back in the day so my attention span was very VERY low 💀. But i also feel the same as you in aranara quest. I mean, we all suffered on that quest. It has a decent plot lines with a meaningful AND important things inside, but it was just so horribly long. Like LONG LONG LOOONG 😭
The only thing that make me not quitting this game is WuWa not release yet
The story in genshin is great. I'm going to continue playing until the end.
During the first ayaka banner I stopped playing genshin I felt bored and found something else that took my mind away from genshin, returned during week 1 of sumeru it's surprisingly easy to get back never felt like I stopped playing
I quit the game for 2-3 months, and it's been so refreshing for me. I came back 1 month before Fontaine because I wanted Furina.
I plan to take another break once I get Nahida since I don't have her, and come back only for Natlan and Murata (I'm a F2P Archon collector so...).
Take some breaks people. Uninstall the game, get away from Genshin content for a while, play another type of game or do something interesting irl (like learning to play guitar for example)... do whatever you want, but take some breaks from time to time. Genshin will feel more fun and enjoyable when you'll be back, trust me 😊
Healthy attitude! Hope nahida comes home easily ☺
@@saurusness Thanks! 😊 May all Nahida wanters become Nahida havers!
Zhongli's been bugging us so much talking about how "Every journey has its final day. Don't Rush."
Now I understand.
Umm is anyone else going to talk about saurusness's accent? I'm just gonna say lean into it, it's very soothing. Or am I just really late to this party...
Contentwise... I'm in the camp of stubborn knuckleheads that plays the carp out of a game and like the grind. Will play till genshin dies. I have played a little less to save content though. But definitely tried to balance things with life.
Hahah on her stream many of us have told her for a long while - and I've told her for years before that - she still finds it hard to believe though 😆
As someone who play games since Nintendo era, I'm used to pay to play gaming. We have to pay for the console (which doesn't do anything else unlike PC or mobile phone) as well as the game catridges/CDs/DVDs, even the live service games back then are pay to play like OG Ragnarok Online and WoW via subscription. We use their service, we pay em, simple.
When I play games like Genshin, Honkai Impact 3rd, or HSR and spent money on em, I see it as a service fee just like how we pay Taxi, Uber, Bus, Restaurant, etc, not as a mean to purchase gacha currency. The good thing with the F2P gacha model is the flexibility on how much we want to pay for their service. When I quit HI 3rd, despite all the spending I've done in that game, there's nothing holding me back from leaving it (heck there is still 290k crystal + tons of supply cards unused in that account) because I know all of those payment I made are an obligation from using their service, while the extra crystals/etc we got from the payment are just bonuses.
Same for me! I find the battle pass + welkin to be a fair regular fee for the enjoyment I'm getting out of this game, and while I initially felt a little guilty (I have excess financial anxiety) for the few tops ups I did while desperately chasing some character or another, breaking down the spending vs hours of enjoyment is what helped me accept that that was ok! 😊
@@saurusness😂 I've never calculated the money spent vs enjoyment hour. Though IIRC the price of monthly subscription for OG Ragnarok Online is 25% higher than Genshin's Welkin Moon, and that's the price 20 years ago. In a sense Hoyoverse's monthly cards are a lot cheaper in today's currency compared to old live service games.
Once you complete a game it feels empty, developers just can't keep up with how fast players devour the content. It takes years for a big studio to make a AAA game and players can't burn through all the content in the game like a hot knife on butter in a matter of days if not hours. Live service games and especially gacha exploit players FOMO to keep them playing. But if you take a step back, it never too late to call it a quit (even if it's just temporary). Remember that regardless how beautiful and good Genshin is, eventually you're just renting png waifus/husbandos until the EoS.
True all across the board. If I quit, it would mean that I wasted thousands of hours and a lotttt of money on this game.
(Not a lot of money but still. Probably ~400+ in total)
And emotional attachment too.
I know that Genshin is slowly eating away at my life, but each new version just makes me itch to play it. I was forced to quit it in order to study for SSATs (Yes, I'm young), and I just keep worrying about missing out on every event. Nowadays I have almost no hobbies and find life boring without Genshin. I know it's the exact opposite of what your video is trying to solve, but do you have any tips on how to overcome it?
I think that as long as it's bringing you genuine joy and that's why you keep playing (as opposed to because you feel like you "must" so you don't miss out), then there's no issue with it being your main or even only hobby! I have a tendency to hyperfixate on whatever my latest obsession is - and genshin has held a top 3 spot for over 2 years - but I'd wager sooner or later something else will likely draw your attention as well, or instead!
If it's any consolation my hobbies are basically 90% gaming, and my socialisation (beyond my partner) happens almost exclusively online, as I live quite a way away from any friends and family. I try to make sure I keep myself healthy by going out for a little walk every day, and I also aim to complete most of my chores and work *before* gaming in the evenings, but in my opinion, as long as you're not neglecting your health, responsibilities, and relationships, then Genshin (or any other game) is a great way to entertain yourself and I don't consider it a waste of time 🤗
@@saurusness Ohh ok. Thank you!! It really reassures me knowing I'm not alone on this XD. I think I'm just struggling to find a balance, but I'm trying to pick up some additional hobbies. Your voice is really relaxing btw :)
@@ImPotata thank you! 😁
the world in general is filled with negativity, so i really appreciate this video - it feels comforting.
I stopped playing like 2 years ago and I'm not regreting this.
This is such an interesting video, I love the way you present the idea of the value of games ❤
Thank you! 💜
I really like your take in this video
Wonderful work !
thank you! 💜
Hello saurusness I hope you are doing well, I was wondering if you may have read any books that have given you this perspective or insight, your perspective was very helpful and I’ll probably be watching this video more then once to really take in what you said cause I think it’s important.
I'm well thank you, I hope you are 💜
Alas, I haven't read any books about these sorts of topics yet, these are just my musings and ways of dealing with things that have been plagueing my through processes for most of my life! I just tried to type in a sort of explanation for how these ideas/viewpoints came to be but I'm really struggling to put it into words in a comprehensible way that's not a 5000 word essay 😅
To summarise though fears of wasting money and time have been at the core of my being since childhood due to the environment and family I grew up in, and it has taken many years and a lot of reassurance from trusted loved ones to learn that for example (disposable) money is meant to be spent on things you enjoy. even the concept of disposable income was so completely foreign to me.
Likewise the thought that once you start something you have to commit to it or it was a "waste of time"; instead I've reframed my thinking as rather than seeing the hours you spent enjoying something as time lost since you could have been doing something you "clearly enjoy more", I try to just see it as "this thing brought me x number of hours of joy, and now I've experienced it and it's time to find joy elsewhere!". Letting go of a hobby or a passion is not giving up or quitting, as people we grow and change and with that our interests do too, and that's ok! Sometimes years later we'll rekindle the joy in something, but that's far less likely to happen if we put ourselves under pressure to do so 💜
So, stellar reunion only happens when you have taken a break from genshin for two weeks? No wonder I haven't ever seen it! I was wondering what it was all about. Now, I'm going to have to experience it myself.
I come back, rush the events and wit for the next archon quest.
Yes. The prison realm has closed. There is no escape for me.
I will not quit Genshin at least before Teyvat is done. I’m very difficult with game and Genshin is the one that I can find a bonding. I don’t care if nothing to do in GI because it’s a normal thing even in real life. Not everyday is excited or interesting. What I need is the feeling in present, not the past or future.
I Started Genshin in 3.3 (i Think it was the yae miko and Childe banner) and i gotta say it aint too Late even a year later i might say its better cause the story goes on more fluently and you dont have to wait months or weeks for a new archon quest
The gods goad us on with the promise of their seven treasures. Rewards for the worthy. The doorway to divinity.
Loved this video ❤
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This "game" is nothing more than a 'minimally' interactive story, grinding, and an assortment of trivial events. And the obligatory easter egg hunt.
I already took 3 breaks from the game, one in 1.0 but just a week, one in 2.5 because burnout, and only came back in the end of 3.1, again burnout in 3.7 but came back in 4.0
My friend said she miss me because I didn't play Genshin for a month.
ur videos are best!
As someone who hasn't really done any exploring maxing, but yes, Genshin would definitely feel like like it's unplayable if you have done pretty much everything in Teyvat, other than you just farming for good artifacts, So I could see why this game can be lackluster, However your grind experience will not just be a sacrifice, Yes you will definitely feel empty while you have accomplished one thing or another, but it's something that you cannot blame Hoyoverse over, But for me there are so many things I got to do and I'm not even close to what how many people who probably already maxed their entire account, So there's a lot of things that I got to do, so yeah.
I've 100%ed everything in Genshin, and yeah it just means that I don't really do much some days aside from just log in and do dailies and events etc. It's kinda nice keeping up with it for less than an hour per day most of the time, since that's often how much time I have available!
The dailies stuff makes a big difference though - definitely been a lot easier to ration the exploration (my favourite part of the game) that way... though I still ended up with the new area at 100% within a couple of weeks somehow 😅
@@raptori I need to do exploration maxing, It'll give me so much primos
I've been working on my exploration maxing since so much of the general part of the game is caught up. But I actually like the idea of only having to log in for 30 minutes a day most of the time.
@@ArchonKujo Hahah yeah I always have way more primos than I expect, exploration gives so much 😁
@@katierat Yasss it's a really nice amount imo - def worth at least trying it out for a while to see if it feels satisfying for you!
For me it’s just pure Fomo of not being able to earn that one daily wish
Yeah I think that's what it is for most people, and it's hard to break that cycle :/
Hi Saurus, I've really appreciated the deception and misdirection from the HoYoVerse marketing materials leading up to version 4, deceptions that mirror the one executed by Focalors, creating a kind of emotional involvement I don't think I've ever had with any media. It's a topic I'd love to hear your thoughts on!
Honestly I had to drop out for a whole month , I have a very complicated relationship with this game , I either despise it or love it , the dailies are killing me , the resin is sickening and the farming is just annoying at best , the story and characters are the only thing that kept me going honestly , HSR was the trigger for me it was so good I realized how bad Genshin truly was
YEah I think taking a break is a good idea! I have a friend who had a similar "burnout", and stopping playing for a month or two, and in that time sort of reframing your view of how mandatory stuff like dailies were really helped them! With the recent QoL, you can skip dailies and complete them by doing other gameplay; exploration (open chests), and doing parts of events or story quests/hangouts, all count towards the dailies!
For me general famring is pretty fun, but the thing that always borderline makes me hate this game is artefact farming, so I try to do it super casually by switching domains often and not looking for anythign specific, and then using all the crap fuel to level random pieces I've locked ovedr time.
All good points true.
I think the only time it is too late to quit any game is when you find out how bad it is after that 2 hour mark.
I fell in love with Cyno, Nahida and oddly enough Tighnari who looks like a bowl-cut off-brand Mickey Mouse 😂 but his gameplay is SO good as well as his spread damage! God this game is almost meditative!
My current view:
Genshin = Waiting archon quest update with junk content, daily: quest + resin use: 5 + 15 min
Star rail = Enjoying battle content with mid story, daily: quest + power use: 3 + 0 (idle) min
considering daily in star rail is significantly faster than gi, I would just put the same amount time to do daily and don't bother spent the resin lmao. Such a downfall indeed
YEAHHH I LOVE PERPETUATING THE NOTION OF SUNK COST FALLACY WITH THE TITLE
I think the point of the video might have gone over your head 😅
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The fall of a Genshin player is a focus on “completion”. Completion of character builds, spiral abyss, exploration, etc. I’ve been playing daily since launch and I still have yet to reach 100% on anything or anyone. I’ll probably get to those Mondstadt world quests eventually (or not), but taking it slow and enjoying whatever I’m in the mood for every day is why I’ve never felt burnout. Right now, my favorite activity is swimming and listening to the underwater music while relaxing! 🥰
Very much so! The only time I came close to burnout was during later sumeru era when I was still in 'completion mode' and the long world quests were constantly blocking me from exploring etc. What cured it was the exctiement of Fontaine as well as just deciding to not *try* to complete map areas - I'll explore when I feel like it and the maps will complete themselves eventually!
Simple i started a journey years ago,and i will god damn finish it
I plan to quit genshin and honkai impact 3rd after many years i feel like burn out but i plan to keep hsr since is a relaxing game and casual have auto forming too
for me i happy to have my permanent characters i dont like to have more of them plus i dont much care about the abyss
i quit for years after enkanomiya
It's never too late to quit addictions of smoking, booze, drugs, gambling, or Genshin.
You need to follow the old Nike tag line and Just Do It.
This video is about helping you get into the mindset where quitting addictions (this one in particular, but it applies in other scenarios as well) becomes possible, because it certainly isn't quite as easy as "just do it" for most people
The Annapausis soundtrack
(Letargia in spanish)
yes.
I hope somebody notices the pun 😎
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😮 i was triggered by Wax and Wayne since just finishing mistborn idk if thats it, but i didnt know it was a saying until now and it put a whole new perspective on the books.
@@Schapie93 Hahah nah that's not the one I had in mind, though I did think of Mistborn literally every time that bit came up 😂
The pun = ruclips.net/video/TDuLlOYUcto/видео.html the flower Baizhu is holding is called Violetgrass 😎
@@raptorihaha, i did feel like the 'touch some grass' almost had a 'hehh' feel, but i thought it was bc he was stood in grass 😂
Its not that hard, just take a break and you can come back when you feel like it/have time.
This is not to say that addiction is simple topic but actuall gameplay lever they have over you is 0.
You have somethint else to focus on it will be easy to quit and easy to comeback when you want
I agree it *shouldn't* be hard, but a lot of people genuinely struggle with that. Breaking those chains can be difficult for many, but once you do, it tends to lead to healthier habits overall!
@@saurusness genshin as a game has lot of these training tools to get you as pavlovs dog. Get that dopamine for 20 primos 60 primos a day slow and steady wins the race free 5star in few months. But the way you quit genshin is you get fed up with character leveling mechanics and just quit. As you realize getting new character just makes you farm all those mats you dont wanna farm and that he probably wont even be marginally stronger than what you already have.
Once you realize that you will not want new characters and play only if you want to.
Tbh I only lost interest when it came to the exploration and boring world quests. I only look forward for (archon/voiced) stories and events.
Interesting question 🤔.......
Call the sunk cost fallacy. Feel like genshin is built more to be addictive than has to be fun
Also the game is designed so you can skip for a really long time without playing
No it's not. I quit like every few months.
Yes if you have paid for then 3k no if not.
What I enjoy from the game is overcoming the challenge they present for any kind of reward. And nowadays that doesn't exist. The "challenge" they present is nothing more but a joke, none of the new mob design is any good, it's just a bunch of time wasting behavior mob rather than actually challenging. If you're telling me to take off my artifact just so that I can feel that challenge again then you're already working backward, it's not supposed to be a player job to do that, it's their job, the devs, to present that for players, which they don't. What's the point of building character just so that you can just drop your artifact to get the challenge ? The real problem of this game is that the game has a very bad gameplay loop, and its reward is also bad, making it worthless to even try. Player going fast or slow is their own decision to do so, but eventually everybody will reach a point of having nothing to do regardless if they're taking it slow or fast, simply beause this game doesn't have a good gameplay loop to keep player engaging. Don't you put this blame on the players that this game flaw is not fixed after 3 years going into 4 years already. This video sounds like it made to make excuses for the devs doesn't do their job
Play HI3d , GI and HSR altogether easy
since the begiging-- (if you know you know) ahem, beginning I understood im here till the end. i had only one time period when i felt burn out but it was due to my own real life struggles, my whole destiny was on 50/50... now things are calming down little by little, it is not happily ever after but better than before & I have figured out how to combine such a time consuming hobby with my schedule so i had fallen for genshin impact once again
sure .. restart the game.