@@captainvadergaming4696 Money is always the bottom line. They most likely didn't put him in because they had spent enough money already elsewhere. It might cost a lot to not only hire the actor, but get any other rights they need to the characters. Ever notice how there is no OT imagery in the Disney park? I think it's because they don't have all the rights to Star Wars.
Disney killed them. Disney killed them all. They're dead, every single one of them. And not just Episode VII, but Episode VIII and Episode IX, too. They're like animals, and they slaughtered Star Wars like animals. I HATE THEM.
A perfect marriage between Lucas’ ideas and EU material would’ve been great. There’d be no pointless rehashing of the OT, and the fans would’ve accepted it with open arms.
Do what Lucas intended. As Ewan McGregor and Mark Hamil (who probably should have directed since he is genuinely a legend) have stated, it is George's story. The story itself should be based on Lucas' scripts. 3 actual continuity sequels with the red Twilek, the new Jedi, Master Luke, and unifying the galaxy as well as the Whills. One saga, one dream, George's story.
God damn... I remember being sad about the EU getting discontinued, but I understood that it wasn't possible to just set the new Films within the established Timeline. I was even looking forward to the new material, trusting the creative process. How wrong I was...
🎬My Sequel triology would have had: Luke, Leia and Han Solo at least on screen together for the 1st film in the triology Would have had: 1 x New Main Villain someone that knew Anakin and Palpatine before, and is now using a new Teal and black lightsaber never seen before from a Sith. And the Main Hero would have been a slow transition for 3 movies from Master Luke Skywalker to ...his son. His son would have been introduced in the 1st film But clearly rebelled against Luke, not wanting to take any part in any Jedi training Prefering instead a more free lifestyle like that of Han Solo. So Luke, would have to go up against the main villain in the final confrontation of the 1st Sequel film, Luke would display Jedi power like history had never seen, Power shown on screen like green rivers of power throught trees, and nature, like establishing that ultimate Jedi powers lead to a linking with nature and Luke, knowing he had to bring his best for this final confrontation, would wear a similar black Return of the Jedi outfit with his Green lightsaber, ...but Luke couldn't finish this new villain off Being more wise now, Luke escapes, knowing he will need help, but he's importantly injured. His son, At the end of the movie would force link with Luke His son would get like flashbacks of all the stories he heard about Luke, The audience would hear Luke's theme and see on screen quick previous clips of Luke turning of his targeting system, him facing Vader, him not giving in to the Emperor ...this would make Luke's son have a second thought, feel the importance of his Skywalker blood, And towards the end of the 1st Sequel film Luke's son would desperately rush back home, would meet Luke and tell him "Dad, sorry, I now want you to teach me the ways of the Force like your father before you Now I know, Even if I run to the end of the galaxy I will always be a Skywalker" and the 1st film ends. The second film would have this New great villain Sith rising up so strong, that 90% of the Galaxy just out of fear would give in to his side. While Luke desperately takes his son to a planet near Dagobah, where he has a meeting with all Force ghosts and they decide to do something never done before, Anakin, Qui Gon and 1 more Force ghost would make themselves force ghost but in flesh just to be able to battle and train Luke's son. Yoda is upset, but knows the danger the galaxy now faces. and Luke's son would battle this New main Sith for the 2nd and 3rd film ...and of course at the end of this new triology The Skywalker blood would have won. The Galaxy would feel safe again, because a Skywalker came out on top. Thanks 4 reading Luke was not only a hero, but sort of a role model to me, making me always remember than the Good side is always worth it. May the force be with you, Always.
I think the only place for more star wars stories after ROTJ, is in spin offs, similar to SOLO, or the mandalorian (which I havent seen yet haha). We dont need a new trilogy, we never did.
I just want a story about Leia, her children and her training, she was obviously extremely important to be mentioned in Yoda’s last words, and it was explored well in legends but in this trilogy we only got a few out of nowhere mentions and a bad CGI scene. Like for 2 films she’s just a leader and all of a sudden she’s ready to be a Jedi in TROS again.
Tbh though the actors all got too old before anyone started making sequels. If Lucas hadn't waited so long between OT and prequels the sequels may have been started by him ten years before Disney even got a hold of the IP. It is much easier to make actors in their late 50s look young enough for whatever you want to do than it is with 75 year olds who die during the production. I liked the originals and enjoyed the prequels. But Lucas is a good case study of why, if you have a story to tell, you should tell it. Not string people along for decades. None of us live forever. My trilogy is probably one made by Lucas around the turn of the millennium after his very successful prequel trilogy released in the early 90s. The Disney abomination is a direct result of all this procrastination.
🎬My Sequel triology would have had: Luke, Leia and Han Solo at least on screen together for the 1st film in the triology Would have had: 1 x New Main Villain someone that knew Anakin and Palpatine before, and is now using a new Teal and black lightsaber never seen before from a Sith. And the Main Hero would have been a slow transition for 3 movies from Master Luke Skywalker to ...his son. His son would have been introduced in the 1st film But clearly rebelled against Luke, not wanting to take any part in any Jedi training Prefering instead a more free lifestyle like that of Han Solo. So Luke, would have to go up against the main villain in the final confrontation of the 1st Sequel film, Luke would display Jedi power like history had never seen, Power shown on screen like green rivers of power throught trees, and nature, like establishing that ultimate Jedi powers lead to a linking with nature and Luke, knowing he had to bring his best for this final confrontation, would wear a similar black Return of the Jedi outfit with his Green lightsaber, ...but Luke couldn't finish this new villain off Being more wise now, Luke escapes, knowing he will need help, but he's importantly injured. His son, At the end of the movie would force link with Luke His son would get like flashbacks of all the stories he heard about Luke, The audience would hear Luke's theme and see on screen quick previous clips of Luke turning of his targeting system, him facing Vader, him not giving in to the Emperor ...this would make Luke's son have a second thought, feel the importance of his Skywalker blood, And towards the end of the 1st Sequel film Luke's son would desperately rush back home, would meet Luke and tell him "Dad, sorry, I now want you to teach me the ways of the Force like your father before you Now I know, Even if I run to the end of the galaxy I will always be a Skywalker" and the 1st film ends. The second film would have this New great villain Sith rising up so strong, that 90% of the Galaxy just out of fear would give in to his side. While Luke desperately takes his son to a planet near Dagobah, where he has a meeting with all Force ghosts and they decide to do something never done before, Anakin, Qui Gon and 1 more Force ghost would make themselves force ghost but in flesh just to be able to battle and train Luke's son. Yoda is upset, but knows the danger the galaxy now faces. and Luke's son would battle this New main Sith for the 2nd and 3rd film ...and of course at the end of this new triology The Skywalker blood would have won. The Galaxy would feel safe again, because a Skywalker came out on top. Thanks 4 reading Luke was not only a hero, but sort of a role model to me, making me always remember than the Good side is always worth it. May the force be with you, Always.
internet 2020 That’s actually really good, I don’t want Sith again tho, there was always a master and an apprentice and I think they should’ve gone extinct with Palpatine. The villain should be the Son, god of Mortis vs the Whills as he wants to disrupt all balance and the OT cast get caught in between. I saw someone else make this idea also, not me.
So you're saying you wanted a smart story written by a qualified writer rather than a tropy, politically tendentious fanfic riddled with plot holes, loose ends and meaningless setups? Are you some sort of elitist?
I love this channel. It's a true and honest Star Wars discussion forum. It makes points I've never thought of, expresses some opinions I disagree with and a lot that I do. The Force is very strong with Thor Skywalker and his fan base. May the Force continue to be with us
Do what Lucas intended. As Ewan McGregor and Mark Hamil (who probably should have directed since he is genuinely a legend) have stated, it is George's story. The story itself should be based on Lucas' scripts. 3 actual continuity sequels with the red Twilek, the new Jedi, Master Luke, and unifying the galaxy as well as the Whills. One saga, one dream, George's story.
My sequel trilogy probably would have been the Thrawn trilogy. The story is great and would appeal to new fans as well as win instant credibility with old time fans.
The Thrawn trilogy is set almost immediately after Jedi. Leia's pregnant in the first 2 books and gives birth in the finale. Carrie Fisher et al. Were far too old. They were even a bit too old when the Thrawn triliogy was published in '91.
@@arthurballs7083 You could do the broader concept of the Thrawn trilogy though, if you wanted. As in, Thrawn rallying former imperials to counterattack the New Republic set 25 years of ROTJ instead of 5 years after ROTJ. You would need to tweak things, sure, and age up Leia's children, but the framework is still there.
@@ericsantucci6934 yeah, that was possible. But Lucas said during the filming of TPM that he has never read any of the novels. I doubt he read them since. So if he was involved he wouldn't of gone with Zahn's story, IMO
Simon Lynch yeah, it would have to be adapted to account for the older actors, but I definitely think it was doable. I think it would have been cool to have an older Master Luke fight a de-aged Mark Hamill as Luuke...
@@emberfist8347 Please no Yuuzhan Vong. Always thougt the whole concept did not fit in with Star Wars as a whole . It should always be Jedi vs Sith imo. But maybe im too conservative;D
According to Iger's book, Lucas wanted to retain most creative control, but Disney didn't like that. At some point during negotiations Lucas learned that a change in capital gains tax would cost him a large sum if he didn't sell by the end of that year. So, Lucas ran out of time and folded, putting Kennedy in place as a last resort, hoping that she would at least listen to his ideas. Lucas wanted to tell his story. Kennedy betrayed him.
He should’ve just held onto it indefinitely or make a distribution deal with them and gradually hand the company over once the trilogy was completed. Or have a clause in the contract where he maintains creative control. If he had known Iger and Kennedy would screw him over, I’m sure he would have.
🎬My Sequel triology would have had: Luke, Leia and Han Solo at least on screen together for the 1st film in the triology Would have had: 1 x New Main Villain someone that knew Anakin and Palpatine before, and is now using a new Teal and black lightsaber never seen before from a Sith. And the Main Hero would have been a slow transition for 3 movies from Master Luke Skywalker to ...his son. His son would have been introduced in the 1st film But clearly rebelled against Luke, not wanting to take any part in any Jedi training Prefering instead a more free lifestyle like that of Han Solo. So Luke, would have to go up against the main villain in the final confrontation of the 1st Sequel film, Luke would display Jedi power like history had never seen, Power shown on screen like green rivers of power throught trees, and nature, like establishing that ultimate Jedi powers lead to a linking with nature and Luke, knowing he had to bring his best for this final confrontation, would wear a similar black Return of the Jedi outfit with his Green lightsaber, ...but Luke couldn't finish this new villain off Being more wise now, Luke escapes, knowing he will need help, but he's importantly injured. His son, At the end of the movie would force link with Luke His son would get like flashbacks of all the stories he heard about Luke, The audience would hear Luke's theme and see on screen quick previous clips of Luke turning of his targeting system, him facing Vader, him not giving in to the Emperor ...this would make Luke's son have a second thought, feel the importance of his Skywalker blood, And towards the end of the 1st Sequel film Luke's son would desperately rush back home, would meet Luke and tell him "Dad, sorry, I now want you to teach me the ways of the Force like your father before you Now I know, Even if I run to the end of the galaxy I will always be a Skywalker" and the 1st film ends. The second film would have this New great villain Sith rising up so strong, that 90% of the Galaxy just out of fear would give in to his side. While Luke desperately takes his son to a planet near Dagobah, where he has a meeting with all Force ghosts and they decide to do something never done before, Anakin, Qui Gon and 1 more Force ghost would make themselves force ghost but in flesh just to be able to battle and train Luke's son. Yoda is upset, but knows the danger the galaxy now faces. and Luke's son would battle this New main Sith for the 2nd and 3rd film ...and of course at the end of this new triology The Skywalker blood would have won. The Galaxy would feel safe again, because a Skywalker came out on top. Thanks 4 reading Luke was not only a hero, but sort of a role model to me, making me always remember than the Good side is always worth it. May the force be with you, Always.
@@peterkrochmalni673 Like wise buddy! May The Force be with us true SW fans always So my sequel would have gone like this Ep 7: LUKE, LEIA , HAN , LANDO CHEWIE, R2 & 3PO ALL REUNITED ON THE BIG SCREEN, BOTH IN EXTENDED & LENGHLTY FLASH BACKS SCENES , AS WELL AS THE PRESENT TIME.. -PLAGUIES IS REVEALED TO BE ANAKINS CREATOR ... -MORE FORCE/JEDI/SITH LORE REHASHED ALONG WITH MORE FLASH BACK SCENES REGARDING HOW ALL FORCE WEILDERS & ORDERS HAVE ORIGINATED - SOME OF DARTH BANES TEACHINGS & HOW THE RULE OF 2 ALL STARTED, WHICH WOULD BE REVEALED TO US VIA HOLOCRONS... - LIGHTSABERS BEING BUILT.. - THE NEW VILLAN WOULD BE REVEALED TO BE AN ANCIENT SITH LIKE DEITY FROM THE UNKNOWN REGIONS WHO WAS THE ONE CALLING OUT TO DIRTY OL MAN SHEEVE PALPATINE- LOL (HE, THE VILLAN WOULD BE THE ONE FROM THE AFTER MATH TRILOGY NOVELS) - THE YUZAHAN VONG WOULD ALSO BE THE MAIN VILLANS AS A SIDE THREAT TO EITHER BOTH THIS NEW ANCIENT SITH VILLAIN OR HE , THE ANCIENT SITH DEITY, WOULD BE AN ACCOMPLICE & ALLIED WITH THE YUZHAN VONG EMPIRE (THE YUZHAN VONG ARE ENEMIES OF THE JEDI / PRE DISNEY ERA / FEATURED IN THE OLD EU NOVELS- INCASE U OR ANY OTHER YOU-TUBERS DON'T KNOW THE OLD SW EXPANDED UNIVERSE -) BUT THEY ( THE VONG) WOULD APPEAR @ THE END OF FILM... ALSO IT WOULD EXPLAIN TO US WHAT TRANSPIRED BETWEEN EP 6 & EPISODE 7.. SO BASICALLY MY EP 7 WOULD MOSTLY BE LIKE THE LORD OF THE RINGS & HARRY POTTER MOVIES, HENCE ALOT MORE OF STORY TELLING WITH LESSER ACTION SCENES & MORE STORY TELLING SCENES INSTEAD EP 8: BOOM! NOW THAT WE KNOW WHO THE MAIN VILLAN IS & NOW THAT ALL THE FORCE LORE & ALL THE STORY TELLING HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED , & NOW THAT WE GOT OUR FLASH BACK SCENES WITH ALL OF OUR OG HEROES OVER WITH , THE NEXT MOVIE ( EPISODE 8), STARTS LIKE THIS EP 8; THE YUZHAN VONG & THE SITH VILLAN HAVE WAGED AN ALL OUT WAR ON THE GALAXY... -WE NOW SEE OBI WANS GREAT GRANDCHILD MARRIED TO THE NEW SKYWALKER ( EITHER LEIA OR LUKES CHILD) HOW? SO IN CLONE WARS TV SHOW , OBI WAN HAD A LOVE INTEREST SATINE KRYZE, WHOM HE WAS INVOLVED WITH, & WE FIND OUT THAT SATINE , FOR FEAR OF OBI-WAN BEING EXPELLED FROM THE JEDI ORDER , SHE HID HER CHILD AWAY FROM MANDALOR & LATER ON THAT CHILD WOULD HAVE A CHILD & THAT CHILD - OBI-WANS GRANDCHILD - FOUND OUT THAT HIS GRANDFATHER WAS A JEDI NAMED OBI WAN & HIS GRANDMOTHER WAS A MANDALORIAN DUTCHESS SO HE WENT OUT LOOKING FOR THR SKYWALKER S IN ORDER TO LEARN THE WAYS OF THE FORCE & THEN HE WOULD MARRY A SLYWALKER CHILD / ADULT BY NOW SO THIS MOVIE WOULD INLOVE LOTS OF CHARACTER BUILDING AS WELL AS LOTS OF TRAINING SORRY I HAVE TO GO IL BE BACK I PROMISE & IF WE THE FANS CAN GET THOR SKYWALKER , DEN OF NERDS , URBAN ACOLYTE & MY FAVORITE BUDDY, MR. STAR WARS THEORY TO ALL COLLABORATE & COME TOGHTER TO MAKE A FAN FILM FOR US WITH A COMBINATION OF ALL OUR IDEAS WOULDNT THAT BE WICKED?
In one sentence: A trilogy about defending the victory earned at the end of Return of the Jedi, not reversing it for a new status quo. A New Republic has been established, and Luke leads a new, but still fledgling and limited Jedi order. There are about 10-12 Jedi at various degrees of training and knighthood at the beginning of the trilogy. Even though it has been 35 years, we must remember that Luke had to start from absolutely nothing. The order has been restarted, but not completely rebuilt, we don't have 50-100 Jedi yet or anything like that. The trilogy would be a bit of a reflection of the Prequel era in the structure and status quo of the world, but put through a much better filter. Leia is leading the Republic the RIGHT way, the structure is better, Luke's Jedi order isn't making the same mistakes as the order seen in the prequels. A lot of the same ideas....but done in a much more effective way. The feel and tone would be ALL in the style of the originals. The original trilogy characters would all be in leading roles, all in Obi-Wan-esque positions of leadership and mentoring of the new cast, and the next generation characters would mostly be their children or their apprentices/underlings in some form. The First Order would be a small, but rising terrorist cell, essentially. Imperial/dark side loyalists. No super weapons or huge armies. Episode 7 would end with them attempting something huge like the destruction of a major stronghold of power or planet(NOT using a Death Star or knock-off).....and they would obviously be thwarted. BUT their ideology and public display would naturally only bring more followers to their cause. Over the course of the trilogy, the threat, size, scope and power of the First Order grows from skirmishes to huge battles...leading to a massive conclusion(obviously) in Episode 9. Instead of trying to bring back the emperor or anything specific like that to make the saga feel unified...this trilogy would be about pulling back on a more macro-level. The war has always been between the light side and the dark side. This trilogy would need to be about the destruction of the dark side itself....or at least the latest embodiment of it. Really delving into 'the balance'. Luke should be a fountain of knowledge, wisdom, and when needed, power...but he can't be everywhere at once, which is how stakes and tension are maintained. I would love to get into the notion that that level of power a Jedi or Sith can reach is actually influenced on the force itself and the power struggle between the light and dark. When the light dominated in the prequels, we basically had superhero Jedi, as the darkness reigned over the galaxy, Obi-Wan and Luke were not so easily able to do the same kind of crazy things. This would be a fun lore exploration....while also retroactively explaining some of the difference of power-scaling seen from the prequels to the originals....and would justify why the sequel trilogy could go back to having Jedi that are more flashy, powerful and acrobatic. Poe would maybe be Han and Leia's son. Rey could still be a fresh character. Finn could easily be Finn Calrissian. Ben would be Ben Skywalker, not Ben Solo. Rey and Finn would be Jedi apprentices, but Rey would perhaps be a few more years into her training, having begun her training earlier. Rey, Finn and Poe would be our trio of heroes....but Ben's arc of villain to hero would be the most central element of the story. By the end of the 2nd film his allegiance would be overtly ambiguous and he would fully commit to the light by the halfway point of the 3rd film. I like the idea of a dark side equivalent to force ghosts....but the dark side users wanting to take it further and allow someone to regain physical form. But I WOULD NOT use it to bring back the Emperor....that is too obvious, and our new dark side users would obviously be critical of the way the emperor did things. Instead, we would bring back Darth Maul....maybe it would even be an accident as a result of whatever darkside ritual/whatever they were planning to do. Maul would return and be imbued, obviously, with an insane amount of dark side power and energy. This way....when it comes down to the ultimate showdown at the end of episode 9....you get that level of full circle storytelling by having the villain of Episode 1 be the ultimate evil of Episode 9. I don't know...that's at least what I came up with off the top of my head sitting here.
@@emberfist8347 I mostly just meant new dark-side users, they don't need to be the Sith resurgent exactly. That way we can get around the rule of two and do something more interesting than 'one character with a blue lightsaber and one character with a red lightsaber for the whole trilogy'
I have an idea, it's not the dark side, it's a new faction called Force Nihilists, they end up two ways, they either lose their connection to the Force, or become immune to its will and keep their connection, their end goal is to absorb enough energy/midichlorians to control and/or destroy the Force as this is their way of bringing peace, they get black lightsabers by severing the kyber crystal's connection to the Force, they low-key behave like Prequel Jedi and are against both Jedi and Sith, whatever Sith remnant there is can join forces with the Jedi, in my fanfic the Force Nihilists were Force users tortured and influenced by the Yuuzhan Vong who lost their connection to the Force
Great starting point. Definitely agree with the macro level thing. Sequel Trilogy totally failed by not zooming out (or zooming way in, as it appears Lucas would have done) and reframing the struggle. Also agree that much of it should have been a statement on the Prequels and addressing the mistakes made then (this was the bookend trilogy, after all).
The Thrawn trilogy is the most logical and natural continuation of the Original Trilogy. They should have used that as their source material and incorporated some of Lucas' outlines as well, such as the exploration of the Whills.
I wouldn't say logical because obviously the actors were way older, unless you recast which would've felt off imo. The "natural continuation" would probably be legacy of the force, since that is about 30 years after the end of ROTJ
Making a trilogy on them would've been hard since the bois are cool but hella edgy with that pain philosophy/religion and gruesome horrific tactics. Can't see how they coulda gave us the true to lore version of the Yuuzhan Vong without making them too child-friendly...
I love the Vong and the stories they created, but they would be impossible to film. They're inherently R-rated and more heavy on CGI than anything in the prequel trilogy.
Yeah for me they should have taken from the Legacy of the Force series. You still get your strong female characters in Jania Solo and Mara Jade. You get the fall of a Solo child in Jacen and you get a cohesive story.
@@emberfist8347 actually bringing a permanent balance to the force is a really stupid idea. There will always be good and bad people and one of those people will have the force so how long will balance last? 4 seconds? Ironically the best explanation is in "the last jedi" where snoke claims for every positive the force creates a negative counterpart. You see the force is balanced. Anakin didn't bring balance, he brought peace.
@@emberfist8347 that's not the definition of balance. Balance means equal amounts. So yeah anakin becoming a sith, killing all but 2 of the jedi. And becoming one of the 2 sith is fulfilling the prophecy. Then both the jedi die so he kills the other sith, dies himself and fulfills it again.
Yeah...but it's HARD to understand Jacen's motivations without the Whole Yuuzhan vong war and the Death and the brutal teachings he learned at the hands of Vergere!
When I heard that was going to be a new trilogy after the return of the Jedi the only old character I was looking forward to was Luke and his role as the founder of the new jedi order that we never got to see
I hate how they baited us with that very idea before the force awakens. Some of the commercials showed a ring of Jedi with multi colored sabers being lowered. We never saw that at all.
@@alienclay2 I don't really care for the ads, I care that the whole point of the original trilogy was to restore the republic and the jedi order and none of that happened
@@georgioslucasfilmos2001 Fr the concept of luke actually being the one of greatest jedi to ever live and restorying the order and improving the ideals is something great and we'll never see it
I would’ve liked a sequel trilogy focusing on Allana Solo as an adult and dealing with being a princess of Hapes and a Jedi who discovers the secret of the Whills
Annie and Elsie of Arendelle just tell the whole story so you could have even more movies explaining this specific point. Can’t have her without Jason.☺️
Simon Lynch. Also Thrawne was introduced in cannon before his EU introduction, so unless his species don't age, or its a recently awakened clone, it wouldn't work now.
Ah-ah-ah, Kathleen Kennedy didn't like Mara Jade. So that would have been controversial. And why SHOW an implacable and brilliant warlord taking over the galaxy, when you can just TELL people that a pack of shrieking buffoons have your heroes on the run? That makes about as much sense as a galactic Republic which, in the face of an existential threat, spends adequately on defense instead of just scattering out crumbs to an irregular band of misfits.
Luke would have had a wife and child at least, there would have been Jedi in the trilogy and we would have learnt more about the galaxy and how it was coping post empire
Do what Lucas intended. As Ewan McGregor and Mark Hamil (who probably should have directed since he is genuinely a legend) have stated, it is George's story. The story itself should be based on Lucas' scripts. 3 actual continuity sequels with the red Twilek, the new Jedi, Master Luke, and unifying the galaxy as well as the Whills. One saga, one dream, George's story.
@@jacobstevenson163 no we can ignore it. It breaks almost every previously established rule and character from any previous movie, including its own damn trilogy. Those 3 movies contradict themselves so many times the United States doesn't have enough hands to count them all. For the sake of the franchise these movies cannot be canon
My sequel trilogy in 5 simple concepts (just add water!) 1.) Firstly just have Luke... be the Jedi master that he should have been. You can have him scatter his new Jedi order in order for it to survive (i.e. he pre-empts the FOs attack etc). So no other jedis really need to be on screen and have their backstories catered too... just dont have the whole new order wiped out and effectively undermine the point of the OT. 2.) Luke Leia and Han on screen together. Doesnt need to be a pivital plot point. But have them all together interacting, reuniniting ...whatever. 3) Palpatine, dont bring him back. It undermines Anakins / Vaders sacrifice. A force ghost - maybe? Alive as a zombified clone or ...whatever he was? No. 4.) In terms of general plot; the OT was about the Return of the Jedi, the PT was about their failures and their fall. The ST should have been about their legacy. It can include Lukes death, but the Jedi order should have been revitalised over the course of his lifetime. The torch properly passed to another generation. Not just to one person with some half arsed training, and no Jedi order in existence. 5.) Stop caring about the main protagonists gender etc (referring to the whole the force is female BS).
@@emberfist8347 I have no problem with there being Sith in existence. Perhaps as the Jedi "returned" in RoTJ, so too did the rule of two come to an end and new "wannabe" Siths (groupings, orders ~w/e) come to life in immitation of Palpatine etc. That way the sequel trilogies actual storyline is to actually bring the Sith and the Jedi together, to "end" the Sith once and for all in a non-violent way (but with lots of lightsaber battles until that happens!).
@@emberfist8347 Yes Anakin brought balance and I feel that that shouldnt be undermined. But the concept that no one would ever become a Sith, or unknowingly head towards their teachings in the entirety of SWs is not plausible. As for the Sith not being able to be reasoned with, that perspective is one that Luke proved false in RoTJ. "Once down the dark path forever will it dominate your destiny ... I need to save you.... you already have."
@@emberfist8347 Your logic is flawed, no one (or at the very least the majority of Sith) werent born Sith. They became Sith, ergo they can become something else...
Here's how I would remake the sequel trilogy: Prologue 1. After the events of ROTJ, the Galactic Republic never really came back together due to many regions preferring to autonomy they were given under The Empire. This caused much conflict that almost erupted into a civil war. Without the Jedi Order to keep the peace and hold it all together, Leia's dream of a reconstituted Galactic Republic was slipping away. 2. This struggle put strain on Han and Leia's marriage as it caused her to split her time between her family and her duties as a statesman. This especially affected Ben who felt neglected by her. 3. Luke, who was under pressure to train a new generation of Jedi to re-establish the order as a force for peace and justice struggled with setbacks (pupils being tempted towards the Dark Side, etc.) and frustrations. Contending with feelings of inadequacy, lack of confidence in his abilities as a teacher, revelations of the Jedi Order's practices and failures in the past made Luke doubt that a new Jedi Order was what the galaxy actually needed. Most importantly, he now had a family (wife and daughter). 4. Han, in the frequent absence of Leia due to her duties to the Republic spends much time raising Ben alone. The he loves his son dearly and has his heart in the right place, he is not really the best father figure and teaches Ben what he knows: how to survive in the under world (which in the absence of a dominating galactic authority/order was spreading in influence). 5. At some point in his childhood Ben is kidnapped and held for ransom by elements of the Hut crime syndicate that are seeking retribution for the death of Jabba. While in captivity, Ben is exposed to more elements of the underworld and becomes corrupted. During this time, he starts to discover his force sensitivity and gradually learns how to use it to influence his captors. After a great deal of time searching for his son, Han (with the help of Luke and Chewie) rescues Ben and brings him home. Luke, upon seeing Ben senses a darkness in him that he feels will consume him and lead him down the path of darkness if left to his own devices. He sees much of Anakin in him. Luke suggests to Han and Leia that Ben be taken under his wing. Han and Leia reluctantly agree. 6. As Ben learns more under Luke's tutelage, many of his dark urges become more taimed, though not completely. His young cousin (Luke's daughter) looks up to Ben and they have a close relationship. She is the only one Ben really opens up to about his time held captive by the Huts. He shares with her many of the abilities he discovered on his own in that time. Many of these abilities are dangerous and skate the line between dark and light. He becomes a bad influence on Luke's daughter and the other students. Luke's wife sees this and becomes concerned. 7. Luke and Mrs. Skywalker argue about Ben and negative influence he is having on Luke's pupils, especially their daughter. Luke, being the optimist that he is does not want to give in to his wife's reservations about his nephew. He feels that he can keep Ben from going dark if he can teach him the right way. However, Luke has no idea how to do that since the precarious state of the galaxy and the struggle to keep his students from taking the quick and easy path are testing his resolve as well. 8. In conversations with Luke, Ben learns more about his grandfather Anakin and what led him to turn to the Dark Side. Having always felt like he missed out on having his mother in his life, he starts to wonder if imperial rule is what the galaxy really needs after all. After all, he has witnessed the toll that reuniting the republic has taken on his family (especially his mother). As a result, he resolves to follow in his grandfather's footsteps and bring order to the galaxy. 9. Ben decides to leave Luke's school against the urgings of everyone. Half of Luke's students go with him. Luke's daughter almost joins him, but Luke and his wife forbid her from doing so. This creates much resentment in Luke's daughter. 10. Being at his wits end, Luke seeks to answer a question that has plagued him since he took Ben under his care: Is there a way to balance both the light and dark? Having reserched the history of the Jedi, the Sith, their eternal conflict and how that conflict has effected the galaxy as a whole, Luke comes to the conclusion that unless the Force is balanced within the individual, the Force will seek to establish balance in other ways. Those ways have been proven disasterous throughout history. 11. Seeking greater insight (and perhaps and answer to the problem) Luke goes into a deep meditation. He goes so deep that he starts to feel the Force at a level that he had never achieved beforehand. Suddenly, he hears the voices of Obi Wan, Yoda and his father urging not to go any deeper. Just as he is about to heed their warning, he feels a presence embedded within the fabric of the Force itself. Curious, he reaches out to it. It reaches back, and consumes him. Luke passes out. 12. Upon waking, Luke is surrounded by fire. His house is burning. Using the Force, he supresses the flames and goes outside to find his entire school burning. He frantically seeks out his wife and daughter and finds his wife lying dead in front of the student's quarters. He hears the screams of his students as they are burning alive. Absolutely distraught, he calls out to his daughter and feels a presence approaching from behind. He turns around and sees...himself, only younger. But, it is not him. It is the same presence he reached out to in his meditation. 13. Somehow, Luke knows that this entity is the cause of what has happened. In a rage, he attacks the entity with the Force, and is soundly defeated. This entity (which could later be revealed as one of the Whils) has a direct connection to the Force and thus cannot be matched by any living Force user. 14. Luke, left for dead, in the midst of the destruction of his school holds to his dead wife, and cries. He is never the same afterwards. These are the events that would lead into my version of Episode 7.
When Luke left Dagobah in Ep5, Master Yoda said "Leave now and help them you could." A sequel trilogy should have been about showing what he meant when Luke made that brash decision since everything panned out by the end of Jedi. We saw the fall of the Old Republic in the prequels and then the rise and toppling of the Galactic Empire in the OT; the sequel trilogy should have been the first real test of the New Republic. Our heroes of the OT should have been in their retirement years and their role shouldn't have been doing what they did before; they should have been the inspiration for highly relatable new characters that grew up in awe of these icons like the audience has. I have always thought there should have been something that Palpatine was worried about beyond the Outer Rim that was going to need super weapons of mass destruction and that something should have caught the New Republic off guard.
I agree with you, it should have been a test for the new republic, the old characters are there but are more of teachers for the new characters. One (of many big) disappointments with the sequels is how it never really describes how the new republic has fallen or where the first order has gotten so much power. They just completely 180 flip the galactic situation on how ROTJ ends with next to no explanation
It could've been something similar to Heir to the Empire, with Ezra as the dark jedi instead of Jorus C'baoth. Hardly a ground breaking idea, but definitely better than the shit we've got.
Ezra could have become the next Ajunta Pall and led the gullible exiled Jedi Students of Luke's struggling Jedi Academy on Yavin 4 into formulating a devastating revenge plot. This revenge would be enacted with deadly precision with a quite basic ultimatum: Kill the Jedi for leaving them in the cold unforgiving galaxy to suffer. (Ezra for sure since he's been out in the UR for decades)
I agree with the comment that was shared about taking the material from the EU and adapting it to the screen just like the MCU has done. There was already a great library available to them and they decided to do their own thing, seemingly to make as much money as possible. But the irony is, they could have made a trilogy that most people liked and still have the confidence of most fans. Honor what has come before by using the material for inspiration to craft a story. Tell a good story that most people like and it will have much more success and lasting effects than doing what Disney did.
The sequel trilogy should not have tried to undo the ROTJ ending, but rather honor Anakin's legacy in the form of his grandchildren taking on the main roles and of course through Luke and Leia. We should have seen that Luke's new Jedi Order and the New Republic were able to maintain themselves, not crumble before we even got to see them. I think it would have been interesting for a new dark side threat (not Sith) to rise and fight against the Jedi and New Republic. The main thing the sequel trilogy should have done was respect Anakin and at least put his force ghost in. He is the main character of Star Wars after all. The sequel trilogy that we have just tries to tell the same story as the originals, but it does it in a worse way.
It should’ve picked up where the EU left off, even though I understand the caveats - among the biggest, Chewbacca would’ve been dead for the past 25 years. But continuing from the EU would’ve helped pull the existing fans into the new trilogy and maybe the younger generation might be encouraged to read more
I'm early :D We need someone like Dave to run Star Wars. He knows SW, he's given us some of the best SW (besides the OT, nothing is better than the OT) and he would do a fantastic job with the franchise.
LamsShipper 4Life It needs to be without interference from Disney as well. If someone like Kennedy somehow becomes CEO of Disney, SW is screwed no matter who’s president of LFL.
To open Pandora's box or live never knowing . . . At this point though, it would be interesting to see his ideas. Worst case scenario, it could drive home that the Saga's perfect ending was rotj. Best, . . . Just makes Kennedy and her writers group look more like morons.
I believe if they get someone like David Filoni & George Lucas to come up with the story treatment, that would be amazing... but maybe get another director? Just like what they've been doing with Mando, season one; but with a touch more of George Lucas's world building and David's story telling.
I just wanted a few things. 1 The trilogy to be well thought out in a consistent story that ends not only the ST but the entire Skywalker Saga in a way that makes sense and finishes the arc. 2 That it would be true to the existing Star Wars lore and not try to change how the force works or any other established rules of the Star Wars Universe. 3 That it would it would pay homage to the past and EU. Not insulting all that George created. Apparently, this was too hard for Disney!
If I had done another trilogy the First Order doesn't exist, Finn is the main focus, Kylo is a travelling cult leader trying to spread a message of chaos across the galaxy with Snoke being revealed as his manipulator, The Knights of Ren are Kylos elite guards, The New Republic is woefully corrupt top to bottom, Luke has his Jedi Council formed, and Rey has a meaningful story told where she finds her parents. Just a couple ideas I have.
1st Movie: Focus on the original characters 2nd Movie: have the original character mentor new characters 3rd Movie: have the new characters mostly take over
My sequel trilogy would have been about Luke’s building of a new Jedi order, trying to understand the Jedi and reconstruct it in a way to avoid the failures of the past, whilst at the same time trying to fight the remnants of The Empire and the growing dark side of his nephew. Effectively it would have been the unseen stuff between 6 and 7 that was actually interesting!
I would prefer that George’s version of the sequels be a side story, while the EU being the main adaptation for the sequels themselves with some liberties thrown in for good measure.
Yeah, I think there's no reason they couldn't have just done the Thrawn trilogy with some tweaks in order to make it 25 years after Endor rather than 5 years after Endor. As in, the overall concept of a de facto leader rallying imperial remnants to attempt to counterattack the New Republic.
Luke is doing the New Jedi Order, then at the Sith side after the power vacum Thrawn takes over. So Luke has to deal with that. This is my version. Then were introduced to new characters as we go along.
Actually, I believe there was a perfect slot to fit a new Trilogy in with the EU (legends) lore. The last novel with Luke, Han, and Leia all show them around the same ages as they were just before the Disney films took place. There were no books written to explain how their stories continued into their final days or how each of them passed away. That's because after that novel, the EU timeline fasts forward over a thousand years and we get into the "Legacy Era" with completely new characters. The Disney Trilogy could have filled in that Gap that was never answered. They would have probably had to add in characters like Jaina Solo (Jacen Solo and Mara Jada were both killed long before this point in time, so they wouldn't HAVE to mention them if it was unnecessary) but that's a plus honestly. EU fans would know about her previous adventures, but the general audience would get to be introduced to her for the first time through this new trilogy and start following her journey from there! People dismiss the idea that new films could have existed within the EU much too quickly. If people with passion, creativity, respect for the material, and the knowledge of the EU timeline were behind these new films, they could have made it work and fit it all together phenomenally. Truly a missed opportunity of Galactic proportions.
My story would have been about Han and Leia’s daughter being a Jedi trained by Luke. The setting would be the New Republic fighting off splinter groups of the Empire in the Outer Rim. The main story would be about Darth Plagueis attempting to return using a Nightsister. It would focus on the Force, the Darkside, concepts of the Grey order, and learning from the failures of history.
I think the sequel trilogies shouldve focused more on the aftermath of defeating the empire. You still have sympathizers, people who agreed with the empire's ideas, and tons of armies of factions still around. As well, the old republic re-establishing itself as law after the power vacuum left from the fall of the empire. Honestly, I didnt like what we got. Episode 7 was nice as it was a new crew working on it and we needed to establish nee characters. After that...it just spiraled downward man. But, I still think the narrative could've focused on the aftermath of defeated the galaxy's strongest political force
About the prequel hate , it still affected him . If the fans weren’t so harsh on the prequels he would’ve done the last 3 episodes knowing the fans want him back . He even said something like why should You make movies when all that people do is criticize you and hate you for it .
Thematically, I would have had the ST show Luke and the next generation restart the Jedi in a way that “fixed” the flaws of the Jedi seen in the PT. Show a new Jedi order that has figured out attachment, that can spot evil rising within, and that can be humble about itself and its place in the galaxy. I would not have had one single enemy or evil faction, but a new one in each episode in order to explore these themes. At the end of the saga, while Anakin would have restored balance, Luke his son would have restored the Jedi Order itself. On the flip side, show the Republic being the one with all the might and the power, and learning how to use that for peace and justice, and not for conquest. Show how Anakin’s daughter Leia is the one who restores the Republic. At the end, you have a Republic and a Jedi Order at harmony and that truly espouses the ideals that were only there in shadows in the PT and OT. This would have been a moral lesson that the world needs today.
I would have really liked to see what Lucas wanted to do with the Wills. An expansion on the philosophical and spiritual elements of the series. The idea of Luke coming face to face, essentially, with God, is pretty compelling to me.
Though it gets a lot of hate I would have made an animated adaptation to Dark Empire and Empire's End series to straight to DVD for the sequel trilogy.
Very few fans think about this idea but the few that do all agree this would have portrayed the controversial story in a much better light. Full display of The Force and galactic war in beautiful animated color and design. Just thinking about it makes me wanna melt...
Dark Empire? Definitely. Dark Empire II and Empire's End? No way. Those sequels were utter trash, quickly written to cash in on the success of Dark Empire, without even an iota of creativity put into them. The story ended just fine with the first Dark Empire.
The Thraw trilogy is the sequel trilogy, and should have been brought to the big screen. At the same time Disney could have went through the EU for the anthology films. Like the Bounty Hunter series, and brought back old favorites like Boba Fett, Dengar and Bossk. They could have still made Rouge one, it was as close to perfect as Disney Star Wars will ever get.
That can easily be retconned to having destroyed the Rule of Two Sith Order. But if another Sith Order rises like those of the ancient ways or of Darth Krayt's belief then the cycle continues...
Snoke would've really been Plagueis returned from the dead after Sidious got killed. Rey should've been Luke's long lost daughter he thought dead after Kylo betrayed him.... At the end, it takes all of the Skywalkers to kill Snoke/Plagueis. Anakins force ghost, Luke, Leia, Rey, and Kylo/Ben. Rise of Skywalker, the end.
It would have been a direct sequel to the thrawn trilogy and I would have asked Zahn to refine the thrawn trilogy so it would have no more plot holes and so it would also fall in line with the prequel idea of the clone wars
My Sequel Trilogy would have been a mix of everything. A bit of legends a bit of Disney ideas and combined that with adventures with the OG Trio in the first Movie and then move on to new characters and new Villians. Maybe in Episode 9 we could bring back Palpatine's old master Darth Plagueis. It would make more Sense because he learned a way to cheat death and it wouldn't ruin the previous trilogies. He would be an Old - New Villian.
1977 : A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away.... there was a farmer boy who rescues a princess and has to confront the mighty black magic sorcerer who rules the galaxy. 1999 : A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away.... there was a young sorcerer pupil who gets corrupted by a powerful black magic sorcerer that wants to rule the galaxy. 2015 : A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away.... there was an orphan girl who does not want to be a sorcerer and then does want to be a sorcerer and then wants to be trained by the farm boy from the 1977 fairy tale , but the the farm boy from the 1977 fairy tale does not want to teach magic to the orphan girl and then the princess of the 1977 fairy tale has to teach the orphan girl how to do magic and then the mighty black magic sorcerer of the 1977 fairy tale is still alive and now wants to destroy the galaxy .. and then ....pfffff....What exactly is supposed to be the fairy tale here?. I guess , what i `m trying so say here is that Disney ("THE fairy tale making company") forgot to start off with writing a good simple catchy one sentence fairy tale to base the whole sequel trilogy story on. No matter how complex you want to make a Star Wars Trilogy, it needs to have foundation to hang that complexity on (or else its not complexity but a mess), and that foundation has to be a simple good fairy tale. (even the prequels had that) The reason that the sequel trilogy was doomed from the start, is because Disney does not even understand Star Wars on that basic level.
Personally, for the first little bit it would be quite similar to the beginning of the sequels. Rey, Kylo Ren, Snowk, etc. The first movie would be about finding Luke and stopping the First Order. It would be similar to Force Awakens, but instead of StarKiller Base the Rebellion is fighting for an important planet (maybe it’s on a hypespace lane or something that would take the FO right into the core and allow them to take over). Rey fights Kylo and loses, but is saved somehow. She goes to find Luke because Leia senses her power. The movie finishes as Rey begins training with Luke (he is hidden away because he is waiting for the next great Jedi to find him), but as the rebels near victory in their battle they encounter a sith, Darth Maul (stay with me) The second movie is about fighting off Darth Maul and other sith (like Darth Bane and other sith of the past) that have appeared for yet to be explained reasons and turning Ben Solo back. That way we get a full movie and a bit with Ben The third movie is about encountering Snowk who turns out to be Darth Plageus. He used his power to manipulate life to bring back the sith of old. Together Ben and Rey take out Snowk and the revived sith and retake the galaxy.
I would've preserved the finality of Return of the Jedi by making it that there's no Sith, Empire, Dark-Side Force-wielders, etc. Instead, the conflict would center around the fallout from the fall of the Empire and the power vacuum created as a result. The New Republic is patchwork, can't be everywhere at once, and it's filled with bureaucrats who expect to see things return to the way they were in The Prequels. Many in the Galaxy, however, do not want to see things return to square 1, so they refuse to join the New Republic, which in turn acts like those planets don't have a choice. Things erupt into civil war. Luke and his new Jedi have divorced themselves from politics in order to focus on following the will of the Force. As such, Luke tries to stay out of the fight, but eventually, he has no choice but to take part... by fighting against the New Republic (which Leia and Han are fighting for). What do you think?
Interesting Idea but the main problem is that the actors who played Luke, Leia and Han back then are now (beginn of the shooting for Episode 7) 30 years+ older and 30 years to get to the point at which Luke has to consider to fight against his sister and one of his best friends could be a little bit to long, if lets say the Empire collapses and/or comitting suicide as in the new canon that problems would occur earlier. If the Empire becomes partitioned and the New Republic has to fight remnants of the Empire Luke would rather fight with Han and Leia than against the new Republic. Maybe it could be made that the Jedi can not afford it to save a campaign against an en enemy of the New Republic but I dont think they would fight over this problem. The biggest Problem is that you have to consider that, as it happend with Carrie Fisher, one actor from the original cast could simply die and would make it more difficult to make a film with much screentime for them. But I think the Idea for the story could be used for a book or book series and if executed well it would be fun to read.
@@nichtvorhanden5928 Thanks for your input. To clarify: the planets fighting the New Republic aren't Empire; they're freed planets that simply don't want to be forced to join a Republic that seems determined to go back to the very problems that led to the Empire in the first place. They all have different reasons, but the prevailing reason is fear: fear of this New Republic, as well as wondering why they're being forced to say "yes" to joining this New Republic.
@@matthewmuir8884 Ok but what happend to the Empire than? In Legends it existed a preatty long time after Endor or better its remnand for new canon we dont know it for shure. I mean if a reasonable Imperial Remnant exists than it would benefit from "Infight" between new republic and Jedi + the free planets because it can promise a safer and securer society and a kind of peace whilst the new republic is in turmoil. And even if the Empire is no more the Ideas of the Empire could ne very promissing in such times. But that is the reason why I think that your Idea sound very good for a book or book series.
@@nichtvorhanden5928 his idea is very interesting but it is glaringly obvious that he wants to avoid the dark side in general. I feel like something is missing in all this interstellar warfare and chaos with not a single hint of dark side activity. Without the dominating influence of The Sith, another dark side cult is bound to try and use The Empire (like The Vindicators) to further their own goals. But then again this all my own opinion. Having an enemy that's not directly linked to the dark side is still pretty cool though... *Looks over at framed picture of Nom Anor*
@@blackshogun272 When I think off post Endor Empire I think more about a kind of Thrawn inized Empire without Sith or Dark side users and yes I know they had a Dark Jedi. But in general more with dont waste imperial resources approach hence I think that even 30 years after Endor there could be an Empire but not under Dark side control. I would assume that Luke would not work for the goals of anauthoritarian anti freedom faction just to keep oit his jedi order off politics. But if someone executs this story well it would be an intresting story.
Cuz what they promised about "incorporating" Legends material in the NuCanon was terrible. By that they must have really meant "Rewrite and twist the lore to noticeably absurd levels"...
Blake Tyson I was being sarcastic , I’m saying apparently not because they just forgot about anakin bringing balance which he kinda did but didn’t at the same time because the emperor came back
Squeal trilogy shouldve been Thrawn returning and desiring to save the galaxy from its most formidable foe, the Force, responsible for so much chaos.Thrawn should’ve sought out reaming Inquisitors and use their help to find a way (likely the Father who couldve returned via Force magic and is most knowledgable and powerful in the Force) to eliminate the Force without destroying the galaxy. The New Jedi and other remaining Inquisitors would be agents of the Force opposing Thrawn’s crusade. Episode XII: The Return of Thrawn Episode XIII: The Black Crusade Episode XIV: The Balance
I highly doubt their defense statement of wanting newly hired artists and authors to have a fresh palette holds up anymore. All these cucks did was rewrite the OT with badly executed fanfiction. This nightmare of a trilogy makes The Crystal Star and I, Jedi look "good"...
Only three acceptable options: 1. No sequel trilogy at all. George Lucas keeps control of Lucasfilm. 2. Film adaptations of the Thrawn Trilogy, with new actors cast for Luke, Leia, and Han. These will be considered a separate trilogy and not part of the six-episode story which was about Anakin. 3. Would never happen, but film adaptations of the New Jedi Order with the original actors cast for Luke, Leia, and Han. Again, these will be considered separate movies from the six episodes of Anakin's story.
They should have just focused on the EU. In particular the Yuzhan Vong war would have been perfect for a trilogy. Also they could have told the story of Jaicen Solo, his fall to the dark side and redemption. He would have made a much better villain than Kylo/Ben
I think the best sequence would have been something that takes inspiration from history. After Alexander the Great died, his massive empire divided into 5 smaller empires that fought each other for dominance until those fell as well. You could have had 4-6 different villains trying to fight our heroes, but also each other for dominance. Maybe one is Admiral Thrawn himself, and another is a politically well connected Politician from the imperial senate, and another is ruthless crimelord that took over Jabba the Hutt's criminal empire. Another could be a mysterious new sith lord like Snoke. All these bad guys try to assert their authority in their own section of the Galaxy forcing a much more ugly civil war as they all jostle for position and control of Coruscant in GoT fashion. It's not just a matter of good guys killing bad guys but also convincing the worlds they visit that Luke and Lea are the real deal and not just another faction trying to leverage the Jedi memory to gain power. You could even "subvert our expectations" by having snoke knocked off in episode 8, but with all the other antagonists well established in episode 7. Only then do we realize that Thrawn is the true threat in episode 9 when he takes down his last rival in opening of E9. Though he had no sith powers, he was established as more intelligent, more charismatic, and more determined than any of the other antagonists that were trying to fill the power vacuum. Most of the Old Guard died in episodes 7 and 8 as per Harrison Ford's request, and the young guns have to take on Thrawn alone using what they've learned. I definitely would have avoided the plot threads where Han and Luke are old disillusioned losers though. Because there's no reason to do that unless you're a man hating feminist trying to hijack the force for your own propaganda purposes.
What they had to do, but didn't: 1. Keep events and characters consistent. If something or someone changed, have a good explanation. *2. Give us a reasonable explanation for where the antagonists came from, and what their goals & motivations were.* 3. Give your protagonists proper characterization, and keep it consistent. 4. Don't try to ramp up the stakes by just making "It's like a Death Star, but MOOOAAARR!" 5. If you're going to blow up a planet, make it tense, make it plot crucial, and make it mean something to the audience. 6. Don't bring back Palpatine, that just screws up everything. 7. CONTROL. YOUR. F*CKING. DIRECTORS. 8. Keep characters & story before agenda. Your message is only as good as the character and story that conveys it. If they had just followed these rules, I probably would have loved the sequel trilogy. Even characters like Rose Tico or Admiral purple-hair could have been interesting if the writer had made them believable characters first.
Honestly it should have been tv shows, whether animated like the clone wars or live action like the mandolorian, and fine stories like the thrawn trilogy, dark empire, the Yuzang vong arc and heir of the Jedi. I mean they already tried to rip off dark empire and heir of the Jedi soooo
I would’ve started with the Old Republic as there is so much thats vague that they could’ve worked with, could’ve manufactured their own original story, still is a lot of potential there ☝️ and thank u so much for including my figures Thor! Much love!
I didnt like Luke Skywalker with a beard. My first change. Make him look like a clean, wise and high class Jedi Master, the greatest of all time. not some pathetic hobo in a cloak. He looks like an old man, not like the greatest, most powerful Jedi to have ever lived. Idk, maybe Im crazy, but his character design doesnt spark memories of Luke Skywalker.
@@TheLexiconDevils Luke just doesnt seem to be the type of character to grow a beard is what Im saying. Luke isnt Obiwan, even though they tried to make him the "hermit wizard" character, similar to him.
Lucas was going to dive into the "whills", which are the entities behind the Force, who act on Force-sensitive races through the midichlorians. If I understand this correctly, this relates to Jung's idea, "People don't have ideas, ideas have people." This would have been an interesting exploration of something very, very deep in human psychology, and I'm not sure if anyone could have quite pulled it off.
Canon and excellent lore existed already. Had for YEARS! It was ignored, and I will ignore Disney in return. It's up to fans to make great things now... 👇 Like to pay canon respects
What I would have done would be effectively been a mixture of the Yuuzang Vong and Dark Empire but with a change in characters, and an introduction to the concepts Lucas probably wanted.
While the story isn't my thing, but I liked some ideas from the 'Legacy' comic series. The New Republic and the New Jedi Order, the Imperial Remnant with Imperial Knights and maybe a new Sith Empire with Sith. And all of them would like to have the last of the Skywalker line join them, which isn't interested in the Force and does the best to ignore Luke's Force Ghost. Something like that.
The biggest disapointment of the sequels for me was not having Anakin's force ghost in The Rise of Skywalker. You'd think by the title they'd bring back the saga's central character for a triumphant return, but instead they just made him disembodied voice. If TLJ disrespected Luke through character assassination, TROS disrespected Anakin by excluding him from what should've been the coda to his story.
Not a fan of George’s vision for the sequels though I would have liked that he helped write the sequel trilogy and of course have a plan. Because I like the ideas that the sequel trilogy had they just needed better execution.
I think my trilogy would've been taken heavily from the expanded universe. 7, 8, and 9 would be the alliance transitioning into taking and holding worlds, go into the internal struggles of the empire as moffs split and fought back and forth, and how it splintered the empire. Have two main plots, first have an officer dedicated to the empire attempt to hold it together and resist the alliance. But he's constantly being undercut by greedy moffs fighting back and forth. Follow his battles with the aliance fleets under Akbar/Solo. 2nd plot would of course be the struggles and victories of luke, han, leia, and so on, to retake the galaxy, and form a "new republic" and go into the struggles of decisions from a political perspective with leia, and Luke's search to rebuild the jedi, as he finds hopefuls, and maybe one turns against him and joins the empire, and so you have this duo of the brilliant officer and the new sith lord, resisting the alliance. Conquest of Coruscant in episode 8 by the alliance. Episode 9 the final defeat of the empire, triumph of luke, leia, and han, and the signing of the new republic charter ushering in a new era for the galaxy.
What I wanted to get from a new triology : Familiar planets like Tatooine and Coruscant A re-established Jedi-academy New ships More focus on the new Republic
I would have put it way into the future, say a couple of hundred years or more, where the whole galactic civil era was just an dark memory of old tales. Then we could have a gang of young Jedi padawans with Rey and Finn in the lead on a quest to explore the stories of theyre childhood in order to find out what really happend and if there still was a threat from the assumed death Sith. They could find Jedi and heroes from the past through holograms, holocrons, force visions and force ghosts to help them on the path and it could all have ended with all those heroes from past and current to gather together to help Rey save the day and bring a final defeat to the Sith. Then those new heroes could go on and have theyre own movies where they handled new and different threats to the galaxy. Johan
Lucas's vision was always that the saga was about Anakin Skywalker. The saga could have been set up like this: The Prequels: The rise and fall of Anakin The originals: The redemption of Anakin The sequels: The legacy of Anakin Yeah, Disney pretty much blew it.
i think the logical set-up was as told in the prequels (Darth Plagueis) if this guy is still out there you have even broader context to Anakin and and the force lore as a whole. a way to up the stakes and keep it relevant to the saga as a whole.
I think this is one of your best written-discussed videos I've seen over the last several months, especially the whole "What Lucas was thinking....." theories. Selling to Disney on its surface was actually a VERY GOOD idea and if everyone took a step back and said, "what I do... xxx" its a very valid sell for him. Disney was a very logical choice to continue his vision, his movies, the SW story on a general path. Unfortunately, as w/many things in todays world for whatever reason corporate paths, direction, hell I dunno what word to use, really went off the tracks and let EVERYONE down, except for maybe their stocks or stockholders. Its actually kinda sad, heartbreaking b/c I think we can ALL see, gosh this road right over here was sooo easy to go down, your path was lite so easily to follow and they said, "you know what?? Lets cut a path through all this bush, briar and thorns for NO particular reason and see whats behind it all. Really a headshaking, palm to the forehead process
Here’s the Trilogy synopsis I came up with. It’s long so make sure you have time before you decide to read through it. Critique it as you may. Episode 7: Echoes from the Darkness Plot: The New Republic faces off against the First Order, a military junta built off the back of the Imperial Remnant. No one knows the true leader behind the group. However, its commander ‘Kylo Ren’, a masked figure who idolizes the old Empire, holds a significant threat to the newly united galaxy and holds a curious grudge against Skywalker and his New Jedi Order. Climax: Kylo Ren and the First Order fleet arrive above Yavin IV, the location of the new Jedi Temple. A battle ensues and the Jedi are hard-pressed to defend their temple. Kylo Ren manages to defeat Rey in a duel. When all hope is lost, the Republic fleet arrives and forces the First Order to retreat to fight another day. Resolution: Rey meets with Luke after the battle who hints that he knows more of this threat than he’s letting on. The final scene shows Kylo Ren arriving at the planet Mustafar where Vader’s Temple once stood and bowing before a throne which obscures a dark figure sitting on it. Kylo removes his mask and the dialogue between him and the shadowy figure reveals him as Ben Solo, son of Han Solo. The movie ends with Kylo Ren leaving angrily, having failed to destroy the Jedi. The camera pans as though it is going to reveal the face of the figure before it cuts to credits, leaving the viewer to wonder what the identity of this strange being is. Episode 8: Knights of the New Republic Plot: After the second Battle of Yavin, Luke senses a threat beyond the First Order and receives a vision of a pale-faced being with a scar commanding Kylo Ren from the shadows. Luke recruits a team of Jedi Knights led by his daughter Rey Skywalker to the Sith Homeworld of Moraband to recover a dark Holocron that may hold the secrets to this threat. Meanwhile, the First Order has been growing abnormally in strength and the Republic fights desperately to quell the growing threat. Climax: Rey and her team are attacked on Moraband by Kylo Ren and his followers, a group of elite dark side adepts named the Knights of Ren. Rey defeats Kylo and his followers are forced to flee. Resolution: Kylo is aboard Rey’s shuttle where he is being questioned about the First Order. She reveals that his capture has remained anonymous and the news has not yet reached the New Republic, hoping to use this as leverage to convince him to speak. Kylo finally reveals the identity of the true mastermind. An ancient being who calls himself ‘Snoke’ who has been around for centuries. He reveals his lineage to Han Solo and that Snoke used his family as manipulation to turn him to the dark side. The final scene shows the Knights of Ren kneeling before the shadowy figure just as Ben had at the end of the previous film, to reveal the betrayal of their ‘brother and leader’ Kylo Ren. The camera pans once again, this time fully revealing the face of Snoke to the audience. Snoke simply gives a grin and chuckles before the credits roll. Episode 9: The Last War Plot: With Ben Solo redeemed Snoke reveals himself to the galaxy and takes control of the First Order, renaming them the ‘New Galactic Empire.’ With a now fully established Empire, Snoke declares war on the Republic. Luke receives a vision from his father Anakin, whom he had not communed with in ages, who says that the boy (Ben Solo) and Leia are the keys to everything. That the New Empire threatens the balance in the force and that they must be stopped from conquering a single world if they are to be vanquished for good. Luke calls a meeting at the Jedi Temple, ordering all Jedi to attend, where he lays out a plan for the Jedi and Republic to defend the core worlds and the rest of the galaxy. Climax: Several battles ensue across the galaxy with the Republic facing off against an emboldened empire led by Sith puppets put in place by Emperor Snoke. Ben, Rey, and Leia head to the planet ‘Morge’ (Note: Doesn’t exist in any continuity. Legit made up the planet. Think Malacor from Rebels merged with Exegol. That’s the idea behind the planet.) in the unknown regions where Snoke resides while Luke uses the Holocron recovered from Moraband to shield the Jedi and Republic forces from the influence of the enemy. Resolution: Snoke reveals his identity as Palpatine’s former master Darth Plagueis who had deceived his apprentice into believing his death. He believes the galaxy is too far gone to ever be redeemed and that the ultimate goal of the Sith has always been to purge and dominate not just the galaxy, but the universe at large in order to establish what they believe is the ‘perfect paradigm.’ At his Palace, he has long been performing experiments to unlock immortality and power so that he could ascend himself to a god-like status. He reveals his latest discovery to the Jedi, an ancient ritual used by the first people of the galaxy to attain what seemed like nigh unlimited power which he hoped to execute. It’s revealed that only a Skywalker has the power to stop the ritual. That their bloodline has existed longer than they have imagined. The Knights of Ren then interrupt and a duel begins with Rey and Ben fending off the knights while Leia attempts to stop the ritual. Luke senses the battle from across the galaxy and uses the Holocron’s power to shield the entire Temple where the duel is taking place, ending the ritual and destroying Snoke in the process. The planet Morge begins to collapse and the three Jedi are forced to flee the planet. Returning to Yavin IV we get a final celebration scene mixing elements from A New Hope and Return of the Jedi. The movie shows scenes of the planets rejoicing along with the Republic soldiers celebrating their victory. The movie ends with Luke and the others standing side by side surrounded by the force ghosts of the great Jedi of old. Roll credits. End of the trilogy. I left out a few details to try and shorten things but this is more of a basic outline of how I would go about things. Let me know what you think. I spent some time thinking this bit over and I might think about actually fleshing out this idea but I’ve had it as my brainchild for a while now of a basic idea of what I would want. I won't go into a rant on that here though. May the force be with you. Thanks for reading this if you did. I'm out.
Great video maybe a bit too honest and personal which makes it very much needed. I do enjoy the new movies but couldn't find in them what Star Wars is all about. It is only MY opinion but for me one of the key aspects is hope. It was always hope above all else. Hope to fix your family, hope to fix your world and the life of your beloved ones. To save people... Not destroy, disappoint and kill all things however great that line is. THAT is Star Wars. Argument, passion, belief, family, MOST of all family. So everyone, and I do assume all of us Star Wars fans should cherish to receive some new products to have fun with or be upset with. We do all enjoy this because this what makes us: the star wars family:)
If I had my way, the sequel trilogy would begin as follows where Episode VII takes place within a few years, if not immediately after, the battle of Endor and the destruction of the second Death Star. The situation in the Galaxy is as follows: 1. With the destruction of the second Death Star, the death of Emperor Palpatine, and the Rebel Alliance scoring another major victory, more systems openly join the Rebel Alliance. There is a power struggle within within the remaining forces while at the same time they are still in a state of war against the Rebel Alliance. 2. Coruscant is still the capital planet of the Empire, and the Rebel Alliance, now with open/public support and membership of many systems, forms (an interim) New Republic Government. But this New Republic is also not completely united or homogeneous, they also have their own internal political agendas/struggles between various factions. They do not disarm or demilitarize. They have scored several more victories and are preparing to re-capture Coruscant which is still the primary seat of power/government for the Empire. 3. Luke Skywalker, after having redeemed his father and the death of Palpatine, is now focusing on re-establishing the Jedi Order. He has managed to find a few Force sensitive (maybe surviving Jedi in training or Padawans who managed to escape the purge and were in hiding during the rule of the Empire, or maybe "children" of Jedi who managed to escape the purge) and looking to find/restore lost knowledge of the Jedi/Force. 4. Leia Organa, as she is a trained diplomat and former member of the Imperial Senate, focuses her energies on the "political/diplomatic" missions of the Rebel Alliance/New Republic and gathering more allies. 5. Han Solo is playing the role of a military commander/leader in the Rebel Alliance and is tasked by those higher in the chain of command to assist in making the mission/battle to re-capture Coruscant a success. 6. There is a mysterious/masked person shadowing/trailing Luke. If I had to split my take on Episode VII into three acts, this is my take on Act III. Luke and maybe a few of his new-found fellow Force sensitive "trainees" have secretly infiltrated Coruscant snuck into the old Jedi Temple to see if there is anything to help them re-establish the Jedi order and learn the ways of the Force. Unknown to Luke, there is an assassin tracking him. At the same time, Han and maybe with Chewie and Lando, have also infiltrated Coruscant to gather support/form a fifth column among the population who will be ready to provide planetside military support the moment the Rebel Alliance/New Republic's fleet launches its attack on the Imperial forces defending Coruscant. Act III ends with the Imperial forces defending Coruscant being defeated and the planet falling into the hands of the Rebel Alliance/New Republic. Luke manages to fight off the assassin, who though manages to escape and flees on an imperial shuttle. The assassin, worn out from fighting Luke, and the escape shuttle having some damage, is lost in space but doesn't know it has a tracking beacon. That beacon allows an Imperial Star Destroyer to locate the shuttle and the assassin is rescued. On board, the assassin's mask is finally removed when the commander of the Star Destroyer enters to question the assassin. The final scene shows the audience that the assassin is a woman with red hair and is greeted by the commander of the Star Destroyer as "Emperor's Hand". The scene doesn't show the audience the face of the commander, but shows that he is wearing a white uniform, has dark hair and blue skinned hands. Roll end credits. Prequel Trilogy: Fall of the Galactic Republic due to corruption, and also the Jedi Order due to arrogance, complacency, over confidence and of course due to Palpatine's manipulations. Original Trilogy: The struggle to topple the reign of an Empire that oppresses freedom. A journey of the hero to redeem his father. Sequel Trilogy (what it should have been): The struggle to restore peace and order, freedom, democracy, in the Galaxy. And also the restoration the Jedi Order.
I think it would have been great to see the Empire fractured into many factions, with the remains of the Imperial navy trying (and failing) to maintain power, and the New Republic (the reformed Rebel Alliance) and a New Jedi Order under Luke trying to bring actual order to the galaxy. In fact, Kylo Ren could be used to better effect in this version, because he'd see the chaos of the Empire's fall as an actual _reason_ to trust the Imperial Remnant more than the Republic.
I would have liked a trilogy about Cade sky walker, Jaina solo and jacen solo you know actually good characters. Honestly it’s time to go to the old republic. I want armies of Jedi vs sith, I want more lore about the force, the father, daughter, son and abeloth something amazing!
I really wanted to see the EU. I wanted to see Jacen Solo turn and the family aspect that we just didn’t get in the canon sequels. Also the Vong would be really cool to see as well
I think Disney should have started, at least with some kind of guideline or plan for a sequel trilogy if they were going to do one. It's like you said they had everything, a trilogy drawn out that Lucas had already written. But Disney immediately dug their own grave by throwing out what Lucas had drawn up and deciding to do their own sequel trilogy from scratch.
They just need to have hired a hand full of writers and EU authors to map out 10 years of movies and TV shows, like Marvel did. Instead they tried to whip up a series of movies together quickly, like DC did.
Me: Is It too much wanting to see Anakin's ghost on the sequels?
Disney: Yes.
Honestly, I don't understand why their so hesitant, they want to please the fans, so bringing him in would've been their best bet
Miguel Montenegro it almost happened
@@captainvadergaming4696 Money is always the bottom line. They most likely didn't put him in because they had spent enough money already elsewhere. It might cost a lot to not only hire the actor, but get any other rights they need to the characters. Ever notice how there is no OT imagery in the Disney park? I think it's because they don't have all the rights to Star Wars.
I think the point of this trilogy was really that Disney wanted to give something the fans wanted to make them shut up.
@@Alarcj7 they really dropped the ball if that was the case
Disney killed them. Disney killed them all.
They're dead, every single one of them.
And not just Episode VII, but Episode VIII and Episode IX, too.
They're like animals, and they slaughtered Star Wars like animals.
I HATE THEM.
Padme: 😍
Nah.
It is only natural. They cut off your expectations, you wanted revenge. It wasn't the first time.
Good Anakin good. Kill them. Kill them now. DO IT!
*Shia Labeouf standing ovation!
A perfect marriage between Lucas’ ideas and EU material would’ve been great. There’d be no pointless rehashing of the OT, and the fans would’ve accepted it with open arms.
That's too much like right...
They would have been printing more money than they know what to do with, had they done that!
Do what Lucas intended. As Ewan McGregor and Mark Hamil (who probably should have directed since he is genuinely a legend) have stated, it is George's story. The story itself should be based on Lucas' scripts. 3 actual continuity sequels with the red Twilek, the new Jedi, Master Luke, and unifying the galaxy as well as the Whills. One saga, one dream, George's story.
Also remember when they killed the EU to make a "more concise" universe and then trashed and wasted that
Remember when they promised to "use" Legends material in the NuCanon with respect and creativity ?
*Painful looks at Thrawn in SW Rebels and TLJ Luke*
God damn... I remember being sad about the EU getting discontinued, but I understood that it wasn't possible to just set the new Films within the established Timeline. I was even looking forward to the new material, trusting the creative process. How wrong I was...
Dylan Fick :(
Dylan Fick then they complained there isn’t enough source material
The EU was SHIT.
My Sequel Trilogy would've looked like nothing. Return of the Jedi is a perfect ending, in my opinion.
Same here
🎬My Sequel triology would have had:
Luke, Leia and Han Solo at least on screen together for the 1st film in the triology
Would have had:
1 x New Main Villain someone that knew Anakin and Palpatine before, and is now using a new Teal and black lightsaber never seen before from a Sith.
And the Main Hero would have been a slow transition for 3 movies from Master Luke Skywalker to ...his son.
His son would have been introduced in the 1st film
But clearly rebelled against Luke, not wanting to take any part in any Jedi training
Prefering instead a more free lifestyle like that of Han Solo.
So Luke, would have to go up against the main villain in the final confrontation of the 1st Sequel film,
Luke would display Jedi power like history had never seen,
Power shown on screen like green rivers of power throught trees, and nature, like establishing that ultimate Jedi powers lead to a linking with nature
and Luke, knowing he had to bring his best for this final confrontation, would wear a similar black Return of the Jedi outfit with his Green lightsaber,
...but Luke couldn't finish this new villain off
Being more wise now,
Luke escapes, knowing he will need help,
but he's importantly injured.
His son,
At the end of the movie would force link with Luke
His son would get like flashbacks of all the stories he heard about Luke,
The audience would hear Luke's theme and see on screen quick previous clips of Luke turning of his targeting system, him facing Vader, him not giving in to the Emperor
...this would make Luke's son have a second thought, feel the importance of his Skywalker blood,
And towards the end of the 1st Sequel film Luke's son would desperately rush back home, would meet Luke and tell him
"Dad, sorry, I now want you to teach me the ways of the Force like your father before you
Now I know, Even if I run to the end of the galaxy
I will always be a Skywalker"
and the 1st film ends.
The second film would have this New great villain Sith rising up so strong, that 90% of the Galaxy just out of fear would give in to his side.
While Luke desperately takes his son to a planet near Dagobah, where he has a meeting with all Force ghosts and they decide to do something never done before,
Anakin, Qui Gon and 1 more Force ghost would make themselves force ghost but in flesh just to be able to battle and train Luke's son.
Yoda is upset, but knows the danger the galaxy now faces.
and Luke's son would battle this New main Sith for the 2nd and 3rd film
...and of course at the end of this new triology
The Skywalker blood would have won.
The Galaxy would feel safe again, because a Skywalker came out on top.
Thanks 4 reading
Luke was not only a hero, but sort of a role model to me, making me always remember than the Good side is always worth it.
May the force be with you,
Always.
That's right ✌️
I think the only place for more star wars stories after ROTJ, is in spin offs, similar to SOLO, or the mandalorian (which I havent seen yet haha). We dont need a new trilogy, we never did.
@@internet2055
DUDE UR IMAGINATION IS VIDID & SOUND! THEY SHOULD HAVE HIRED YOU 😆 lol
I just want a story about Leia, her children and her training, she was obviously extremely important to be mentioned in Yoda’s last words, and it was explored well in legends but in this trilogy we only got a few out of nowhere mentions and a bad CGI scene. Like for 2 films she’s just a leader and all of a sudden she’s ready to be a Jedi in TROS again.
Ryan Delve A story about Leia with Luke acting as her mentor.
Tbh though the actors all got too old before anyone started making sequels. If Lucas hadn't waited so long between OT and prequels the sequels may have been started by him ten years before Disney even got a hold of the IP. It is much easier to make actors in their late 50s look young enough for whatever you want to do than it is with 75 year olds who die during the production. I liked the originals and enjoyed the prequels. But Lucas is a good case study of why, if you have a story to tell, you should tell it. Not string people along for decades. None of us live forever.
My trilogy is probably one made by Lucas around the turn of the millennium after his very successful prequel trilogy released in the early 90s. The Disney abomination is a direct result of all this procrastination.
@@politicallycorrectredskin796 Now, I think you have a point here.
🎬My Sequel triology would have had:
Luke, Leia and Han Solo at least on screen together for the 1st film in the triology
Would have had:
1 x New Main Villain someone that knew Anakin and Palpatine before, and is now using a new Teal and black lightsaber never seen before from a Sith.
And the Main Hero would have been a slow transition for 3 movies from Master Luke Skywalker to ...his son.
His son would have been introduced in the 1st film
But clearly rebelled against Luke, not wanting to take any part in any Jedi training
Prefering instead a more free lifestyle like that of Han Solo.
So Luke, would have to go up against the main villain in the final confrontation of the 1st Sequel film,
Luke would display Jedi power like history had never seen,
Power shown on screen like green rivers of power throught trees, and nature, like establishing that ultimate Jedi powers lead to a linking with nature
and Luke, knowing he had to bring his best for this final confrontation, would wear a similar black Return of the Jedi outfit with his Green lightsaber,
...but Luke couldn't finish this new villain off
Being more wise now,
Luke escapes, knowing he will need help,
but he's importantly injured.
His son,
At the end of the movie would force link with Luke
His son would get like flashbacks of all the stories he heard about Luke,
The audience would hear Luke's theme and see on screen quick previous clips of Luke turning of his targeting system, him facing Vader, him not giving in to the Emperor
...this would make Luke's son have a second thought, feel the importance of his Skywalker blood,
And towards the end of the 1st Sequel film Luke's son would desperately rush back home, would meet Luke and tell him
"Dad, sorry, I now want you to teach me the ways of the Force like your father before you
Now I know, Even if I run to the end of the galaxy
I will always be a Skywalker"
and the 1st film ends.
The second film would have this New great villain Sith rising up so strong, that 90% of the Galaxy just out of fear would give in to his side.
While Luke desperately takes his son to a planet near Dagobah, where he has a meeting with all Force ghosts and they decide to do something never done before,
Anakin, Qui Gon and 1 more Force ghost would make themselves force ghost but in flesh just to be able to battle and train Luke's son.
Yoda is upset, but knows the danger the galaxy now faces.
and Luke's son would battle this New main Sith for the 2nd and 3rd film
...and of course at the end of this new triology
The Skywalker blood would have won.
The Galaxy would feel safe again, because a Skywalker came out on top.
Thanks 4 reading
Luke was not only a hero, but sort of a role model to me, making me always remember than the Good side is always worth it.
May the force be with you,
Always.
internet 2020 That’s actually really good, I don’t want Sith again tho, there was always a master and an apprentice and I think they should’ve gone extinct with Palpatine. The villain should be the Son, god of Mortis vs the Whills as he wants to disrupt all balance and the OT cast get caught in between. I saw someone else make this idea also, not me.
Honestly, I think the Thrawn Trilogy is the Sequels.
Same here. I've neen listening in on Professor Geek's book study of the Thrawn trilogy. It's amazing, especially compared to what we got in theaters.
Ye
That’s my head canon
The true canonization right here.
So you're saying you wanted a smart story written by a qualified writer rather than a tropy, politically tendentious fanfic riddled with plot holes, loose ends and meaningless setups? Are you some sort of elitist?
I love this channel. It's a true and honest Star Wars discussion forum. It makes points I've never thought of, expresses some opinions I disagree with and a lot that I do. The Force is very strong with Thor Skywalker and his fan base. May the Force continue to be with us
Do what Lucas intended. As Ewan McGregor and Mark Hamil (who probably should have directed since he is genuinely a legend) have stated, it is George's story. The story itself should be based on Lucas' scripts. 3 actual continuity sequels with the red Twilek, the new Jedi, Master Luke, and unifying the galaxy as well as the Whills. One saga, one dream, George's story.
My sequel trilogy probably would have been the Thrawn trilogy. The story is great and would appeal to new fans as well as win instant credibility with old time fans.
The Thrawn trilogy is set almost immediately after Jedi. Leia's pregnant in the first 2 books and gives birth in the finale.
Carrie Fisher et al. Were far too old. They were even a bit too old when the Thrawn triliogy was published in '91.
@@arthurballs7083 You could do the broader concept of the Thrawn trilogy though, if you wanted. As in, Thrawn rallying former imperials to counterattack the New Republic set 25 years of ROTJ instead of 5 years after ROTJ. You would need to tweak things, sure, and age up Leia's children, but the framework is still there.
@@ericsantucci6934 yeah, that was possible. But Lucas said during the filming of TPM that he has never read any of the novels. I doubt he read them since. So if he was involved he wouldn't of gone with Zahn's story, IMO
Simon Lynch yeah, it would have to be adapted to account for the older actors, but I definitely think it was doable. I think it would have been cool to have an older Master Luke fight a de-aged Mark Hamill as Luuke...
@@emberfist8347 Please no Yuuzhan Vong. Always thougt the whole concept did not fit in with Star Wars as a whole . It should always be Jedi vs Sith imo. But maybe im too conservative;D
According to Iger's book, Lucas wanted to retain most creative control, but Disney didn't like that. At some point during negotiations Lucas learned that a change in capital gains tax would cost him a large sum if he didn't sell by the end of that year. So, Lucas ran out of time and folded, putting Kennedy in place as a last resort, hoping that she would at least listen to his ideas.
Lucas wanted to tell his story. Kennedy betrayed him.
It would have been worth holding on...
He should’ve just held onto it indefinitely or make a distribution deal with them and gradually hand the company over once the trilogy was completed. Or have a clause in the contract where he maintains creative control. If he had known Iger and Kennedy would screw him over, I’m sure he would have.
Trast no one. Only The Force.
"Your 'fans' betray you, as you betrayed me"
- George to KK after rise of skywalker
@@Ben-fm1tp We never betray George Lucas. I love all Star Wars Movies Originals and Preqiels. I don't like the new movies except Rogue One.
🎬My Sequel triology would have had:
Luke, Leia and Han Solo at least on screen together for the 1st film in the triology
Would have had:
1 x New Main Villain someone that knew Anakin and Palpatine before, and is now using a new Teal and black lightsaber never seen before from a Sith.
And the Main Hero would have been a slow transition for 3 movies from Master Luke Skywalker to ...his son.
His son would have been introduced in the 1st film
But clearly rebelled against Luke, not wanting to take any part in any Jedi training
Prefering instead a more free lifestyle like that of Han Solo.
So Luke, would have to go up against the main villain in the final confrontation of the 1st Sequel film,
Luke would display Jedi power like history had never seen,
Power shown on screen like green rivers of power throught trees, and nature, like establishing that ultimate Jedi powers lead to a linking with nature
and Luke, knowing he had to bring his best for this final confrontation, would wear a similar black Return of the Jedi outfit with his Green lightsaber,
...but Luke couldn't finish this new villain off
Being more wise now,
Luke escapes, knowing he will need help,
but he's importantly injured.
His son,
At the end of the movie would force link with Luke
His son would get like flashbacks of all the stories he heard about Luke,
The audience would hear Luke's theme and see on screen quick previous clips of Luke turning of his targeting system, him facing Vader, him not giving in to the Emperor
...this would make Luke's son have a second thought, feel the importance of his Skywalker blood,
And towards the end of the 1st Sequel film Luke's son would desperately rush back home, would meet Luke and tell him
"Dad, sorry, I now want you to teach me the ways of the Force like your father before you
Now I know, Even if I run to the end of the galaxy
I will always be a Skywalker"
and the 1st film ends.
The second film would have this New great villain Sith rising up so strong, that 90% of the Galaxy just out of fear would give in to his side.
While Luke desperately takes his son to a planet near Dagobah, where he has a meeting with all Force ghosts and they decide to do something never done before,
Anakin, Qui Gon and 1 more Force ghost would make themselves force ghost but in flesh just to be able to battle and train Luke's son.
Yoda is upset, but knows the danger the galaxy now faces.
and Luke's son would battle this New main Sith for the 2nd and 3rd film
...and of course at the end of this new triology
The Skywalker blood would have won.
The Galaxy would feel safe again, because a Skywalker came out on top.
Thanks 4 reading
Luke was not only a hero, but sort of a role model to me, making me always remember than the Good side is always worth it.
May the force be with you,
Always.
⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
OMG Thor Skywalker read this one
Well done.
internet 2020 You forgot to mention Mara Jade.
@@peterkrochmalni673
Like wise buddy! May The Force be with us true SW fans always
So my sequel would have gone like this
Ep 7: LUKE, LEIA , HAN , LANDO CHEWIE, R2 & 3PO ALL REUNITED ON THE BIG SCREEN, BOTH IN EXTENDED & LENGHLTY FLASH BACKS SCENES , AS WELL AS THE PRESENT TIME..
-PLAGUIES IS REVEALED TO BE ANAKINS CREATOR ...
-MORE FORCE/JEDI/SITH LORE REHASHED ALONG WITH MORE FLASH BACK SCENES REGARDING HOW ALL FORCE WEILDERS & ORDERS HAVE ORIGINATED
- SOME OF DARTH BANES TEACHINGS & HOW THE
RULE OF 2 ALL STARTED, WHICH WOULD BE REVEALED TO US VIA HOLOCRONS...
- LIGHTSABERS BEING BUILT..
- THE NEW VILLAN WOULD BE REVEALED TO BE AN ANCIENT SITH LIKE DEITY FROM THE UNKNOWN REGIONS WHO WAS THE ONE CALLING OUT TO DIRTY OL MAN SHEEVE PALPATINE- LOL (HE, THE VILLAN WOULD BE THE ONE FROM THE AFTER MATH TRILOGY NOVELS)
- THE YUZAHAN VONG WOULD ALSO BE THE MAIN VILLANS AS A SIDE THREAT TO EITHER BOTH THIS NEW ANCIENT SITH VILLAIN OR HE , THE ANCIENT SITH DEITY, WOULD BE AN ACCOMPLICE & ALLIED WITH THE YUZHAN VONG EMPIRE (THE YUZHAN VONG ARE ENEMIES OF THE JEDI / PRE DISNEY ERA / FEATURED IN THE OLD EU NOVELS- INCASE U OR ANY OTHER YOU-TUBERS DON'T KNOW THE OLD SW EXPANDED UNIVERSE -)
BUT THEY ( THE VONG) WOULD APPEAR @ THE END OF FILM...
ALSO IT WOULD EXPLAIN TO US WHAT TRANSPIRED BETWEEN
EP 6 & EPISODE 7..
SO BASICALLY MY EP 7 WOULD MOSTLY BE LIKE THE LORD OF THE RINGS & HARRY POTTER MOVIES, HENCE ALOT MORE OF STORY TELLING WITH LESSER ACTION SCENES & MORE STORY TELLING SCENES INSTEAD
EP 8: BOOM! NOW THAT WE KNOW WHO THE MAIN VILLAN IS & NOW THAT ALL THE FORCE LORE & ALL THE STORY TELLING HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED , & NOW THAT WE GOT OUR FLASH BACK SCENES WITH ALL OF OUR OG HEROES OVER WITH , THE NEXT MOVIE ( EPISODE 8), STARTS LIKE THIS
EP 8; THE YUZHAN VONG & THE SITH VILLAN HAVE WAGED AN ALL OUT WAR ON THE GALAXY...
-WE NOW SEE OBI WANS GREAT GRANDCHILD MARRIED TO THE NEW SKYWALKER ( EITHER LEIA OR LUKES CHILD) HOW? SO IN CLONE WARS TV SHOW , OBI WAN HAD A LOVE INTEREST SATINE KRYZE, WHOM HE WAS INVOLVED WITH, & WE FIND OUT THAT SATINE , FOR FEAR OF OBI-WAN BEING EXPELLED FROM THE JEDI ORDER , SHE HID HER CHILD AWAY FROM MANDALOR & LATER ON THAT CHILD WOULD HAVE A CHILD & THAT CHILD - OBI-WANS GRANDCHILD - FOUND OUT THAT HIS GRANDFATHER WAS A JEDI NAMED OBI WAN & HIS GRANDMOTHER WAS A MANDALORIAN DUTCHESS SO HE WENT OUT LOOKING FOR THR SKYWALKER S IN ORDER TO LEARN THE WAYS OF THE FORCE & THEN HE WOULD MARRY A SLYWALKER CHILD / ADULT BY NOW SO THIS MOVIE WOULD INLOVE LOTS OF CHARACTER BUILDING AS WELL AS LOTS OF TRAINING
SORRY I HAVE TO GO IL BE BACK I PROMISE & IF WE THE FANS CAN GET THOR SKYWALKER , DEN OF NERDS , URBAN ACOLYTE & MY FAVORITE BUDDY, MR. STAR WARS THEORY TO ALL COLLABORATE & COME TOGHTER TO MAKE A FAN FILM FOR US WITH A COMBINATION OF ALL OUR IDEAS WOULDNT THAT BE WICKED?
In one sentence: A trilogy about defending the victory earned at the end of Return of the Jedi, not reversing it for a new status quo.
A New Republic has been established, and Luke leads a new, but still fledgling and limited Jedi order. There are about 10-12 Jedi at various degrees of training and knighthood at the beginning of the trilogy. Even though it has been 35 years, we must remember that Luke had to start from absolutely nothing. The order has been restarted, but not completely rebuilt, we don't have 50-100 Jedi yet or anything like that.
The trilogy would be a bit of a reflection of the Prequel era in the structure and status quo of the world, but put through a much better filter. Leia is leading the Republic the RIGHT way, the structure is better, Luke's Jedi order isn't making the same mistakes as the order seen in the prequels. A lot of the same ideas....but done in a much more effective way.
The feel and tone would be ALL in the style of the originals. The original trilogy characters would all be in leading roles, all in Obi-Wan-esque positions of leadership and mentoring of the new cast, and the next generation characters would mostly be their children or their apprentices/underlings in some form.
The First Order would be a small, but rising terrorist cell, essentially. Imperial/dark side loyalists. No super weapons or huge armies. Episode 7 would end with them attempting something huge like the destruction of a major stronghold of power or planet(NOT using a Death Star or knock-off).....and they would obviously be thwarted. BUT their ideology and public display would naturally only bring more followers to their cause. Over the course of the trilogy, the threat, size, scope and power of the First Order grows from skirmishes to huge battles...leading to a massive conclusion(obviously) in Episode 9.
Instead of trying to bring back the emperor or anything specific like that to make the saga feel unified...this trilogy would be about pulling back on a more macro-level. The war has always been between the light side and the dark side. This trilogy would need to be about the destruction of the dark side itself....or at least the latest embodiment of it.
Really delving into 'the balance'. Luke should be a fountain of knowledge, wisdom, and when needed, power...but he can't be everywhere at once, which is how stakes and tension are maintained. I would love to get into the notion that that level of power a Jedi or Sith can reach is actually influenced on the force itself and the power struggle between the light and dark. When the light dominated in the prequels, we basically had superhero Jedi, as the darkness reigned over the galaxy, Obi-Wan and Luke were not so easily able to do the same kind of crazy things.
This would be a fun lore exploration....while also retroactively explaining some of the difference of power-scaling seen from the prequels to the originals....and would justify why the sequel trilogy could go back to having Jedi that are more flashy, powerful and acrobatic.
Poe would maybe be Han and Leia's son. Rey could still be a fresh character. Finn could easily be Finn Calrissian. Ben would be Ben Skywalker, not Ben Solo. Rey and Finn would be Jedi apprentices, but Rey would perhaps be a few more years into her training, having begun her training earlier.
Rey, Finn and Poe would be our trio of heroes....but Ben's arc of villain to hero would be the most central element of the story. By the end of the 2nd film his allegiance would be overtly ambiguous and he would fully commit to the light by the halfway point of the 3rd film.
I like the idea of a dark side equivalent to force ghosts....but the dark side users wanting to take it further and allow someone to regain physical form. But I WOULD NOT use it to bring back the Emperor....that is too obvious, and our new dark side users would obviously be critical of the way the emperor did things.
Instead, we would bring back Darth Maul....maybe it would even be an accident as a result of whatever darkside ritual/whatever they were planning to do. Maul would return and be imbued, obviously, with an insane amount of dark side power and energy. This way....when it comes down to the ultimate showdown at the end of episode 9....you get that level of full circle storytelling by having the villain of Episode 1 be the ultimate evil of Episode 9.
I don't know...that's at least what I came up with off the top of my head sitting here.
@@emberfist8347 I mostly just meant new dark-side users, they don't need to be the Sith resurgent exactly. That way we can get around the rule of two and do something more interesting than 'one character with a blue lightsaber and one character with a red lightsaber for the whole trilogy'
I have an idea, it's not the dark side, it's a new faction called Force Nihilists, they end up two ways, they either lose their connection to the Force, or become immune to its will and keep their connection, their end goal is to absorb enough energy/midichlorians to control and/or destroy the Force as this is their way of bringing peace, they get black lightsabers by severing the kyber crystal's connection to the Force, they low-key behave like Prequel Jedi and are against both Jedi and Sith, whatever Sith remnant there is can join forces with the Jedi, in my fanfic the Force Nihilists were Force users tortured and influenced by the Yuuzhan Vong who lost their connection to the Force
Great starting point. Definitely agree with the macro level thing. Sequel Trilogy totally failed by not zooming out (or zooming way in, as it appears Lucas would have done) and reframing the struggle. Also agree that much of it should have been a statement on the Prequels and addressing the mistakes made then (this was the bookend trilogy, after all).
@@timothycambron5616 that's how I expected Snoke to say after revealing he's Plagueis, but nah we he had to die a nobody instead
@@emberfist8347 Settle down. I'm referring to the mistakes of the Jedi.
The Thrawn trilogy is the most logical and natural continuation of the Original Trilogy. They should have used that as their source material and incorporated some of Lucas' outlines as well, such as the exploration of the Whills.
This is the way!!!
@ANTHONY THOMAS but never as good as the real EU Thrawn!
Logical?! The actors were far, far too old. They were even a bit old when the Thrawn trilogy was first published.
I wouldn't say logical because obviously the actors were way older, unless you recast which would've felt off imo. The "natural continuation" would probably be legacy of the force, since that is about 30 years after the end of ROTJ
@ANTHONY THOMAS i know, but EU Thrawn >>>>>> Disney Thrawn who is just a carbon copy.
From a Yuuzhan Vong hater: the Yuuzhan Vong arc would have been an improvement on what we got.
Making a trilogy on them would've been hard since the bois are cool but hella edgy with that pain philosophy/religion and gruesome horrific tactics. Can't see how they coulda gave us the true to lore version of the Yuuzhan Vong without making them too child-friendly...
@@blackshogun272 I would love a yuuzhan vong trilogy
Like it or not, they were a threat outside the Sith that was credible.
I hate the Yuuzhan Vong too...can't disagree with your statement.
I love the Vong and the stories they created, but they would be impossible to film. They're inherently R-rated and more heavy on CGI than anything in the prequel trilogy.
Yeah for me they should have taken from the Legacy of the Force series. You still get your strong female characters in Jania Solo and Mara Jade. You get the fall of a Solo child in Jacen and you get a cohesive story.
@@emberfist8347 actually bringing a permanent balance to the force is a really stupid idea. There will always be good and bad people and one of those people will have the force so how long will balance last? 4 seconds?
Ironically the best explanation is in "the last jedi" where snoke claims for every positive the force creates a negative counterpart. You see the force is balanced. Anakin didn't bring balance, he brought peace.
Yes.
@@emberfist8347 that's not the definition of balance. Balance means equal amounts. So yeah anakin becoming a sith, killing all but 2 of the jedi. And becoming one of the 2 sith is fulfilling the prophecy. Then both the jedi die so he kills the other sith, dies himself and fulfills it again.
Yeah...but it's HARD to understand Jacen's motivations without the Whole Yuuzhan vong war and the Death and the brutal teachings he learned at the hands of Vergere!
I DID Like Fate of the Jedi...although it DESTROYED Anakin's Sacrifice in ROTJ!
When I heard that was going to be a new trilogy after the return of the Jedi the only old character I was looking forward to was Luke and his role as the founder of the new jedi order that we never got to see
I hate how they baited us with that very idea before the force awakens. Some of the commercials showed a ring of Jedi with multi colored sabers being lowered. We never saw that at all.
@@alienclay2 I don't really care for the ads, I care that the whole point of the original trilogy was to restore the republic and the jedi order and none of that happened
@@georgioslucasfilmos2001 Fr the concept of luke actually being the one of greatest jedi to ever live and restorying the order and improving the ideals is something great and we'll never see it
@@thegoat4238 you can actually see that in the old expanded universe timeline
@@georgioslucasfilmos2001 yeah I know I saw it but I really want to see it in life action
I would’ve liked a sequel trilogy focusing on Allana Solo as an adult and dealing with being a princess of Hapes and a Jedi who discovers the secret of the Whills
Annie and Elsie of Arendelle just tell the whole story so you could have even more movies explaining this specific point. Can’t have her without Jason.☺️
Long Forgotten Yeah. Maybe they could’ve done an animated series about the stories of original three and have that transition to their kids.
❤ Allana, she's adorable and Han and Leia as grandparents are great.
Blake Tyson Well that’s not that big of a problem since Carrie Fisher passed away and we all know what Harrison Ford thinks of Han
@@emberfist8347 I don't see why. Very old sure but that's well within a human life span
It's got to be the Thrawn trilogy, it's win win situation, a proven storyline and fan favourite and no CONTROVERSY!!!
Right. Don't you realise the actors were three or four decades too old
I got your controversy for you! It's not diverse enough. GOTTEM.
Simon Lynch. Also Thrawne was introduced in cannon before his EU introduction, so unless his species don't age, or its a recently awakened clone, it wouldn't work now.
Ah-ah-ah, Kathleen Kennedy didn't like Mara Jade. So that would have been controversial.
And why SHOW an implacable and brilliant warlord taking over the galaxy, when you can just TELL people that a pack of shrieking buffoons have your heroes on the run? That makes about as much sense as a galactic Republic which, in the face of an existential threat, spends adequately on defense instead of just scattering out crumbs to an irregular band of misfits.
@@arthurballs7083 it's easy to recast , Hollywood has always done it
Luke would have had a wife and child at least, there would have been Jedi in the trilogy and we would have learnt more about the galaxy and how it was coping post empire
Do what Lucas intended. As Ewan McGregor and Mark Hamil (who probably should have directed since he is genuinely a legend) have stated, it is George's story. The story itself should be based on Lucas' scripts. 3 actual continuity sequels with the red Twilek, the new Jedi, Master Luke, and unifying the galaxy as well as the Whills. One saga, one dream, George's story.
If George Lucas directed the sequel trilogy it would be something that I would consider canon
It would probably be poorly directed, but it would at least have a great story.
@@davidkane6145 you probably mean terribly executed, George was an amazing detector
@@georgioslucasfilmos2001 he sure detected the hell outta the prequels, didn't he?
Georgios lucasfilmos you can’t just ignore it from canon though? It’s there so we should at least acknowledge it.
@@jacobstevenson163 no we can ignore it. It breaks almost every previously established rule and character from any previous movie, including its own damn trilogy. Those 3 movies contradict themselves so many times the United States doesn't have enough hands to count them all. For the sake of the franchise these movies cannot be canon
*The Thrawn trilogy + George Lucas' sequel treatments! This was the way!*
Hey bud. Time to get back to writing.
My sequel trilogy in 5 simple concepts (just add water!)
1.) Firstly just have Luke... be the Jedi master that he should have been.
You can have him scatter his new Jedi order in order for it to survive (i.e. he pre-empts the FOs attack etc). So no other jedis really need to be on screen and have their backstories catered too... just dont have the whole new order wiped out and effectively undermine the point of the OT.
2.) Luke Leia and Han on screen together. Doesnt need to be a pivital plot point. But have them all together interacting, reuniniting ...whatever.
3) Palpatine, dont bring him back. It undermines Anakins / Vaders sacrifice. A force ghost - maybe? Alive as a zombified clone or ...whatever he was? No.
4.) In terms of general plot; the OT was about the Return of the Jedi, the PT was about their failures and their fall.
The ST should have been about their legacy. It can include Lukes death, but the Jedi order should have been revitalised over the course of his lifetime. The torch properly passed to another generation. Not just to one person with some half arsed training, and no Jedi order in existence.
5.) Stop caring about the main protagonists gender etc (referring to the whole the force is female BS).
Yes. Where were you while JJ, Kasdan, Arndt and Kennedy were slapping The Force Awakens down like drunken clowns?
@@emberfist8347 I have no problem with there being Sith in existence.
Perhaps as the Jedi "returned" in RoTJ, so too did the rule of two come to an end and new "wannabe" Siths (groupings, orders ~w/e) come to life in immitation of Palpatine etc.
That way the sequel trilogies actual storyline is to actually bring the Sith and the Jedi together, to "end" the Sith once and for all in a non-violent way (but with lots of lightsaber battles until that happens!).
@@emberfist8347 Yes Anakin brought balance and I feel that that shouldnt be undermined. But the concept that no one would ever become a Sith, or unknowingly head towards their teachings in the entirety of SWs is not plausible.
As for the Sith not being able to be reasoned with, that perspective is one that Luke proved false in RoTJ. "Once down the dark path forever will it dominate your destiny ... I need to save you.... you already have."
@@emberfist8347 Your logic is flawed, no one (or at the very least the majority of Sith) werent born Sith.
They became Sith, ergo they can become something else...
Here's how I would remake the sequel trilogy:
Prologue
1. After the events of ROTJ, the Galactic Republic never really came back together due to many regions preferring to autonomy they were given under The Empire. This caused much conflict that almost erupted into a civil war. Without the Jedi Order to keep the peace and hold it all together, Leia's dream of a reconstituted Galactic Republic was slipping away.
2. This struggle put strain on Han and Leia's marriage as it caused her to split her time between her family and her duties as a statesman. This especially affected Ben who felt neglected by her.
3. Luke, who was under pressure to train a new generation of Jedi to re-establish the order as a force for peace and justice struggled with setbacks (pupils being tempted towards the Dark Side, etc.) and frustrations. Contending with feelings of inadequacy, lack of confidence in his abilities as a teacher, revelations of the Jedi Order's practices and failures in the past made Luke doubt that a new Jedi Order was what the galaxy actually needed. Most importantly, he now had a family (wife and daughter).
4. Han, in the frequent absence of Leia due to her duties to the Republic spends much time raising Ben alone. The he loves his son dearly and has his heart in the right place, he is not really the best father figure and teaches Ben what he knows: how to survive in the under world (which in the absence of a dominating galactic authority/order was spreading in influence).
5. At some point in his childhood Ben is kidnapped and held for ransom by elements of the Hut crime syndicate that are seeking retribution for the death of Jabba. While in captivity, Ben is exposed to more elements of the underworld and becomes corrupted. During this time, he starts to discover his force sensitivity and gradually learns how to use it to influence his captors. After a great deal of time searching for his son, Han (with the help of Luke and Chewie) rescues Ben and brings him home. Luke, upon seeing Ben senses a darkness in him that he feels will consume him and lead him down the path of darkness if left to his own devices. He sees much of Anakin in him. Luke suggests to Han and Leia that Ben be taken under his wing. Han and Leia reluctantly agree.
6. As Ben learns more under Luke's tutelage, many of his dark urges become more taimed, though not completely. His young cousin (Luke's daughter) looks up to Ben and they have a close relationship. She is the only one Ben really opens up to about his time held captive by the Huts. He shares with her many of the abilities he discovered on his own in that time. Many of these abilities are dangerous and skate the line between dark and light. He becomes a bad influence on Luke's daughter and the other students. Luke's wife sees this and becomes concerned.
7. Luke and Mrs. Skywalker argue about Ben and negative influence he is having on Luke's pupils, especially their daughter. Luke, being the optimist that he is does not want to give in to his wife's reservations about his nephew. He feels that he can keep Ben from going dark if he can teach him the right way. However, Luke has no idea how to do that since the precarious state of the galaxy and the struggle to keep his students from taking the quick and easy path are testing his resolve as well.
8. In conversations with Luke, Ben learns more about his grandfather Anakin and what led him to turn to the Dark Side. Having always felt like he missed out on having his mother in his life, he starts to wonder if imperial rule is what the galaxy really needs after all. After all, he has witnessed the toll that reuniting the republic has taken on his family (especially his mother). As a result, he resolves to follow in his grandfather's footsteps and bring order to the galaxy.
9. Ben decides to leave Luke's school against the urgings of everyone. Half of Luke's students go with him. Luke's daughter almost joins him, but Luke and his wife forbid her from doing so. This creates much resentment in Luke's daughter.
10. Being at his wits end, Luke seeks to answer a question that has plagued him since he took Ben under his care: Is there a way to balance both the light and dark? Having reserched the history of the Jedi, the Sith, their eternal conflict and how that conflict has effected the galaxy as a whole, Luke comes to the conclusion that unless the Force is balanced within the individual, the Force will seek to establish balance in other ways. Those ways have been proven disasterous throughout history.
11. Seeking greater insight (and perhaps and answer to the problem) Luke goes into a deep meditation. He goes so deep that he starts to feel the Force at a level that he had never achieved beforehand. Suddenly, he hears the voices of Obi Wan, Yoda and his father urging not to go any deeper. Just as he is about to heed their warning, he feels a presence embedded within the fabric of the Force itself. Curious, he reaches out to it. It reaches back, and consumes him. Luke passes out.
12. Upon waking, Luke is surrounded by fire. His house is burning. Using the Force, he supresses the flames and goes outside to find his entire school burning. He frantically seeks out his wife and daughter and finds his wife lying dead in front of the student's quarters. He hears the screams of his students as they are burning alive. Absolutely distraught, he calls out to his daughter and feels a presence approaching from behind. He turns around and sees...himself, only younger. But, it is not him. It is the same presence he reached out to in his meditation.
13. Somehow, Luke knows that this entity is the cause of what has happened. In a rage, he attacks the entity with the Force, and is soundly defeated. This entity (which could later be revealed as one of the Whils) has a direct connection to the Force and thus cannot be matched by any living Force user.
14. Luke, left for dead, in the midst of the destruction of his school holds to his dead wife, and cries. He is never the same afterwards.
These are the events that would lead into my version of Episode 7.
This is so genius! Holy hell
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@@zachbass7583 a little late
Prequels: Fall of Anakin Skywalker
Originals: Redemption of Anakin Skywalker
Sequels: (Should of) Legacy of Anakin Skywalker
When Luke left Dagobah in Ep5, Master Yoda said "Leave now and help them you could."
A sequel trilogy should have been about showing what he meant when Luke made that brash decision since everything panned out by the end of Jedi.
We saw the fall of the Old Republic in the prequels and then the rise and toppling of the Galactic Empire in the OT; the sequel trilogy should have been the first real test of the New Republic.
Our heroes of the OT should have been in their retirement years and their role shouldn't have been doing what they did before; they should have been the inspiration for highly relatable new characters that grew up in awe of these icons like the audience has.
I have always thought there should have been something that Palpatine was worried about beyond the Outer Rim that was going to need super weapons of mass destruction and that something should have caught the New Republic off guard.
I agree with you, it should have been a test for the new republic, the old characters are there but are more of teachers for the new characters. One (of many big) disappointments with the sequels is how it never really describes how the new republic has fallen or where the first order has gotten so much power. They just completely 180 flip the galactic situation on how ROTJ ends with next to no explanation
@@Dethflash JJ "I don't need to explain that" Abrams...
*cough Yuuzhan cough Vong*
@@AbyssWatcher745
*cough* Lovecraftian Abominations in Otherspace *cough*
@@blackshogun272 fair enough.
It could've been something similar to Heir to the Empire, with Ezra as the dark jedi instead of Jorus C'baoth. Hardly a ground breaking idea, but definitely better than the shit we've got.
Ezra could have become the next Ajunta Pall and led the gullible exiled Jedi Students of Luke's struggling Jedi Academy on Yavin 4 into formulating a devastating revenge plot. This revenge would be enacted with deadly precision with a quite basic ultimatum: Kill the Jedi for leaving them in the cold unforgiving galaxy to suffer. (Ezra for sure since he's been out in the UR for decades)
Whoever did the artwork with those figures, excellent job!
I agree with the comment that was shared about taking the material from the EU and adapting it to the screen just like the MCU has done. There was already a great library available to them and they decided to do their own thing, seemingly to make as much money as possible. But the irony is, they could have made a trilogy that most people liked and still have the confidence of most fans. Honor what has come before by using the material for inspiration to craft a story. Tell a good story that most people like and it will have much more success and lasting effects than doing what Disney did.
The sequel trilogy should not have tried to undo the ROTJ ending, but rather honor Anakin's legacy in the form of his grandchildren taking on the main roles and of course through Luke and Leia. We should have seen that Luke's new Jedi Order and the New Republic were able to maintain themselves, not crumble before we even got to see them. I think it would have been interesting for a new dark side threat (not Sith) to rise and fight against the Jedi and New Republic. The main thing the sequel trilogy should have done was respect Anakin and at least put his force ghost in. He is the main character of Star Wars after all. The sequel trilogy that we have just tries to tell the same story as the originals, but it does it in a worse way.
It should’ve picked up where the EU left off, even though I understand the caveats - among the biggest, Chewbacca would’ve been dead for the past 25 years. But continuing from the EU would’ve helped pull the existing fans into the new trilogy and maybe the younger generation might be encouraged to read more
Wasn’t going to be adapted regardless.
I'm early :D
We need someone like Dave to run Star Wars. He knows SW, he's given us some of the best SW (besides the OT, nothing is better than the OT) and he would do a fantastic job with the franchise.
LamsShipper 4Life It needs to be without interference from Disney as well. If someone like Kennedy somehow becomes CEO of Disney, SW is screwed no matter who’s president of LFL.
@@ForceMaximus84 Exactly. We need someone we trust with the franchise and no interference from Disney.
Jon Favreau would be really cool too in my opinion
Love your videos Thor, thank you for the upload!
And thank you for watching.
My Sequel Trilogy would be a white wall. Return of the Jedi is the true end.
The Thrawn Trilogy. Full stop.
The way I see it... If those 64 thousand people gave you 14$ each for a movie, you'd have almost a million bucks.
It would've been interesting to see George's vision of the sequel trilogy but would it of been a good idea to get him to make them?
To open Pandora's box or live never knowing . . . At this point though, it would be interesting to see his ideas. Worst case scenario, it could drive home that the Saga's perfect ending was rotj. Best, . . . Just makes Kennedy and her writers group look more like morons.
Considering he created the story, he should’ve at least been involved with the stories. Clearly it doesn’t work without him.
I believe if they get someone like David Filoni & George Lucas to come up with the story treatment, that would be amazing... but maybe get another director? Just like what they've been doing with Mando, season one; but with a touch more of George Lucas's world building and David's story telling.
James Conroy I honestly expected that that’s what they were going to do, but they decided to be arrogant and ironically go the safe reboot way. Oops.
I just wanted a few things.
1 The trilogy to be well thought out in a consistent story that ends not only the ST but the entire Skywalker Saga in a way that makes sense and finishes the arc.
2 That it would be true to the existing Star Wars lore and not try to change how the force works or any other established rules of the Star Wars Universe.
3 That it would it would pay homage to the past and EU. Not insulting all that George created.
Apparently, this was too hard for Disney!
If I had done another trilogy the First Order doesn't exist, Finn is the main focus, Kylo is a travelling cult leader trying to spread a message of chaos across the galaxy with Snoke being revealed as his manipulator, The Knights of Ren are Kylos elite guards, The New Republic is woefully corrupt top to bottom, Luke has his Jedi Council formed, and Rey has a meaningful story told where she finds her parents. Just a couple ideas I have.
1st Movie: Focus on the original characters
2nd Movie: have the original character mentor new characters
3rd Movie: have the new characters mostly take over
My sequel trilogy would have been about Luke’s building of a new Jedi order, trying to understand the Jedi and reconstruct it in a way to avoid the failures of the past, whilst at the same time trying to fight the remnants of The Empire and the growing dark side of his nephew. Effectively it would have been the unseen stuff between 6 and 7 that was actually interesting!
Heir to the Empire, Dark Force Rising, The Last Command
I would’ve adapted the Thrawn trilogy, just work around the ages.
I would prefer that George’s version of the sequels be a side story, while the EU being the main adaptation for the sequels themselves with some liberties thrown in for good measure.
Yeah, I think there's no reason they couldn't have just done the Thrawn trilogy with some tweaks in order to make it 25 years after Endor rather than 5 years after Endor. As in, the overall concept of a de facto leader rallying imperial remnants to attempt to counterattack the New Republic.
Luke is doing the New Jedi Order, then at the Sith side after the power vacum Thrawn takes over. So Luke has to deal with that. This is my version. Then were introduced to new characters as we go along.
Actually, I believe there was a perfect slot to fit a new Trilogy in with the EU (legends) lore. The last novel with Luke, Han, and Leia all show them around the same ages as they were just before the Disney films took place. There were no books written to explain how their stories continued into their final days or how each of them passed away. That's because after that novel, the EU timeline fasts forward over a thousand years and we get into the "Legacy Era" with completely new characters. The Disney Trilogy could have filled in that Gap that was never answered. They would have probably had to add in characters like Jaina Solo (Jacen Solo and Mara Jada were both killed long before this point in time, so they wouldn't HAVE to mention them if it was unnecessary) but that's a plus honestly. EU fans would know about her previous adventures, but the general audience would get to be introduced to her for the first time through this new trilogy and start following her journey from there!
People dismiss the idea that new films could have existed within the EU much too quickly. If people with passion, creativity, respect for the material, and the knowledge of the EU timeline were behind these new films, they could have made it work and fit it all together phenomenally.
Truly a missed opportunity of Galactic proportions.
Robertx Ortiz-Wilson well said
We missed out on so much for so little. Fools traded a gold mine for a thicc bronze and silver deposit. Damnit Disney...
My story would have been about Han and Leia’s daughter being a Jedi trained by Luke. The setting would be the New Republic fighting off splinter groups of the Empire in the Outer Rim. The main story would be about Darth Plagueis attempting to return using a Nightsister. It would focus on the Force, the Darkside, concepts of the Grey order, and learning from the failures of history.
I think the sequel trilogies shouldve focused more on the aftermath of defeating the empire. You still have sympathizers, people who agreed with the empire's ideas, and tons of armies of factions still around. As well, the old republic re-establishing itself as law after the power vacuum left from the fall of the empire. Honestly, I didnt like what we got. Episode 7 was nice as it was a new crew working on it and we needed to establish nee characters. After that...it just spiraled downward man. But, I still think the narrative could've focused on the aftermath of defeated the galaxy's strongest political force
About the prequel hate , it still affected him . If the fans weren’t so harsh on the prequels he would’ve done the last 3 episodes knowing the fans want him back . He even said something like why should You make movies when all that people do is criticize you and hate you for it .
What kind of coward hides behind a mask to punch criminals at night
I am NOT The Batman
What kind of coward hides behind a mask to punch criminals at night
I am NOT The Batman
Thematically, I would have had the ST show Luke and the next generation restart the Jedi in a way that “fixed” the flaws of the Jedi seen in the PT. Show a new Jedi order that has figured out attachment, that can spot evil rising within, and that can be humble about itself and its place in the galaxy. I would not have had one single enemy or evil faction, but a new one in each episode in order to explore these themes. At the end of the saga, while Anakin would have restored balance, Luke his son would have restored the Jedi Order itself. On the flip side, show the Republic being the one with all the might and the power, and learning how to use that for peace and justice, and not for conquest. Show how Anakin’s daughter Leia is the one who restores the Republic. At the end, you have a Republic and a Jedi Order at harmony and that truly espouses the ideals that were only there in shadows in the PT and OT. This would have been a moral lesson that the world needs today.
I would have really liked to see what Lucas wanted to do with the Wills. An expansion on the philosophical and spiritual elements of the series. The idea of Luke coming face to face, essentially, with God, is pretty compelling to me.
Though it gets a lot of hate I would have made an animated adaptation to Dark Empire and Empire's End series to straight to DVD for the sequel trilogy.
Very few fans think about this idea but the few that do all agree this would have portrayed the controversial story in a much better light. Full display of The Force and galactic war in beautiful animated color and design. Just thinking about it makes me wanna melt...
Dark Empire? Definitely. Dark Empire II and Empire's End? No way. Those sequels were utter trash, quickly written to cash in on the success of Dark Empire, without even an iota of creativity put into them. The story ended just fine with the first Dark Empire.
The Thraw trilogy is the sequel trilogy, and should have been brought to the big screen. At the same time Disney could have went through the EU for the anthology films. Like the Bounty Hunter series, and brought back old favorites like Boba Fett, Dengar and Bossk. They could have still made Rouge one, it was as close to perfect as Disney Star Wars will ever get.
My sequel trilogy wouldn't have the Sith, because Anakin was supposed to have destroyed the Sith in ROTJ. JJ destroyed the prophecy of the chosen one.
That can easily be retconned to having destroyed the Rule of Two Sith Order. But if another Sith Order rises like those of the ancient ways or of Darth Krayt's belief then the cycle continues...
JJ Doesn't Give a F**k about the Mythos
Snoke would've really been Plagueis returned from the dead after Sidious got killed. Rey should've been Luke's long lost daughter he thought dead after Kylo betrayed him.... At the end, it takes all of the Skywalkers to kill Snoke/Plagueis. Anakins force ghost, Luke, Leia, Rey, and Kylo/Ben. Rise of Skywalker, the end.
It would have been a direct sequel to the thrawn trilogy and I would have asked Zahn to refine the thrawn trilogy so it would have no more plot holes and so it would also fall in line with the prequel idea of the clone wars
My Sequel Trilogy would have
been a mix of everything. A bit of legends a bit of Disney ideas and combined that with adventures with the OG Trio in the first Movie and then move on to new characters and new Villians. Maybe in Episode 9 we could bring back Palpatine's old master Darth Plagueis. It would make more Sense because he learned a way to cheat death and it wouldn't ruin the previous trilogies. He would be an Old - New Villian.
1977 : A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away.... there was a farmer boy who rescues a princess and has to confront the mighty black magic sorcerer who rules the galaxy.
1999 : A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away.... there was a young sorcerer pupil who gets corrupted by a powerful black magic sorcerer that wants to rule the galaxy.
2015 : A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away.... there was an orphan girl who does not want to be a sorcerer and then does want to be a sorcerer and then wants to be trained by the farm boy from the 1977 fairy tale , but the the farm boy from the 1977 fairy tale does not want to teach magic to the orphan girl and then the princess of the 1977 fairy tale has to teach the orphan girl how to do magic and then the mighty black magic sorcerer of the 1977 fairy tale is still alive and now wants to destroy the galaxy .. and then ....pfffff....What exactly is supposed to be the fairy tale here?.
I guess , what i `m trying so say here is that Disney ("THE fairy tale making company") forgot to start off with writing a good simple catchy one sentence fairy tale to base the whole sequel trilogy story on.
No matter how complex you want to make a Star Wars Trilogy, it needs to have foundation to hang that complexity on (or else its not complexity but a mess), and that foundation has to be a simple good fairy tale. (even the prequels had that)
The reason that the sequel trilogy was doomed from the start, is because Disney does not even understand Star Wars on that basic level.
Personally, for the first little bit it would be quite similar to the beginning of the sequels. Rey, Kylo Ren, Snowk, etc.
The first movie would be about finding Luke and stopping the First Order. It would be similar to Force Awakens, but instead of StarKiller Base the Rebellion is fighting for an important planet (maybe it’s on a hypespace lane or something that would take the FO right into the core and allow them to take over). Rey fights Kylo and loses, but is saved somehow. She goes to find Luke because Leia senses her power. The movie finishes as Rey begins training with Luke (he is hidden away because he is waiting for the next great Jedi to find him), but as the rebels near victory in their battle they encounter a sith, Darth Maul (stay with me)
The second movie is about fighting off Darth Maul and other sith (like Darth Bane and other sith of the past) that have appeared for yet to be explained reasons and turning Ben Solo back. That way we get a full movie and a bit with Ben
The third movie is about encountering Snowk who turns out to be Darth Plageus. He used his power to manipulate life to bring back the sith of old. Together Ben and Rey take out Snowk and the revived sith and retake the galaxy.
I would've preserved the finality of Return of the Jedi by making it that there's no Sith, Empire, Dark-Side Force-wielders, etc. Instead, the conflict would center around the fallout from the fall of the Empire and the power vacuum created as a result. The New Republic is patchwork, can't be everywhere at once, and it's filled with bureaucrats who expect to see things return to the way they were in The Prequels. Many in the Galaxy, however, do not want to see things return to square 1, so they refuse to join the New Republic, which in turn acts like those planets don't have a choice. Things erupt into civil war.
Luke and his new Jedi have divorced themselves from politics in order to focus on following the will of the Force. As such, Luke tries to stay out of the fight, but eventually, he has no choice but to take part... by fighting against the New Republic (which Leia and Han are fighting for).
What do you think?
Interesting Idea but the main problem is that the actors who played Luke, Leia and Han back then are now (beginn of the shooting for Episode 7) 30 years+ older and 30 years to get to the point at which Luke has to consider to fight against his sister and one of his best friends could be a little bit to long, if lets say the Empire collapses and/or comitting suicide as in the new canon that problems would occur earlier. If the Empire becomes partitioned and the New Republic has to fight remnants of the Empire Luke would rather fight with Han and Leia than against the new Republic. Maybe it could be made that the Jedi can not afford it to save a campaign against an en enemy of the New Republic but I dont think they would fight over this problem. The biggest Problem is that you have to consider that, as it happend with Carrie Fisher, one actor from the original cast could simply die and would make it more difficult to make a film with much screentime for them.
But I think the Idea for the story could be used for a book or book series and if executed well it would be fun to read.
@@nichtvorhanden5928 Thanks for your input. To clarify: the planets fighting the New Republic aren't Empire; they're freed planets that simply don't want to be forced to join a Republic that seems determined to go back to the very problems that led to the Empire in the first place. They all have different reasons, but the prevailing reason is fear: fear of this New Republic, as well as wondering why they're being forced to say "yes" to joining this New Republic.
@@matthewmuir8884 Ok but what happend to the Empire than?
In Legends it existed a preatty long time after Endor or better its remnand for new canon we dont know it for shure.
I mean if a reasonable Imperial Remnant exists than it would benefit from "Infight" between new republic and Jedi + the free planets because it can promise a safer and securer society and a kind of peace whilst the new republic is in turmoil.
And even if the Empire is no more the Ideas of the Empire could ne very promissing in such times.
But that is the reason why I think that your Idea sound very good for a book or book series.
@@nichtvorhanden5928 his idea is very interesting but it is glaringly obvious that he wants to avoid the dark side in general. I feel like something is missing in all this interstellar warfare and chaos with not a single hint of dark side activity. Without the dominating influence of The Sith, another dark side cult is bound to try and use The Empire (like The Vindicators) to further their own goals. But then again this all my own opinion. Having an enemy that's not directly linked to the dark side is still pretty cool though...
*Looks over at framed picture of Nom Anor*
@@blackshogun272 When I think off post Endor Empire I think more about a kind of Thrawn inized Empire without Sith or Dark side users and yes I know they had a Dark Jedi. But in general more with dont waste imperial resources approach hence I think that even 30 years after Endor there could be an Empire but not under Dark side control. I would assume that Luke would not work for the goals of anauthoritarian anti freedom faction just to keep oit his jedi order off politics. But if someone executs this story well it would be an intresting story.
Thank you so much for sharing my photos! 😀👊
Definitely should have been George’s story and some things borrowed from the EU
Cuz what they promised about "incorporating" Legends material in the NuCanon was terrible. By that they must have really meant "Rewrite and twist the lore to noticeably absurd levels"...
My sequel trilogy
(Hears knocking:)
Who’s there?
Yuuzhan vong and grand admiral thrawn: you called
I also do remember mace windu saying “so the prophecy says...” meaning that it could not be true.
Blake Tyson because Rey brought balance to the force not anakin apparently
@@emberfist8347 because it played the audience (you) for fools in believing everything the characters say.
*Nothing against you bro*
Blake Tyson I was being sarcastic , I’m saying apparently not because they just forgot about anakin bringing balance which he kinda did but didn’t at the same time because the emperor came back
@@emberfist8347 damn that's dark but thanks for that good info dude 👍
Going off your title, mine was easy
Thrown trilogy followed by dark empire
Maybe some rogue squadron thrown in for flavor
Sequel Trilogy "SHOULD OF BEEN ABOUT THE YUUZHAN VONG INVASION"!
Squeal trilogy shouldve been Thrawn returning and desiring to save the galaxy from its most formidable foe, the Force, responsible for so much chaos.Thrawn should’ve sought out reaming Inquisitors and use their help to find a way (likely the Father who couldve returned via Force magic and is most knowledgable and powerful in the Force) to eliminate the Force without destroying the galaxy. The New Jedi and other remaining Inquisitors would be agents of the Force opposing Thrawn’s crusade.
Episode XII: The Return of Thrawn
Episode XIII: The Black Crusade
Episode XIV: The Balance
*Darth Traya has joined the group chat*
Most of the EU was great, they should've gone that way
I highly doubt their defense statement of wanting newly hired artists and authors to have a fresh palette holds up anymore. All these cucks did was rewrite the OT with badly executed fanfiction. This nightmare of a trilogy makes The Crystal Star and I, Jedi look "good"...
Only three acceptable options:
1. No sequel trilogy at all. George Lucas keeps control of Lucasfilm.
2. Film adaptations of the Thrawn Trilogy, with new actors cast for Luke, Leia, and Han. These will be considered a separate trilogy and not part of the six-episode story which was about Anakin.
3. Would never happen, but film adaptations of the New Jedi Order with the original actors cast for Luke, Leia, and Han. Again, these will be considered separate movies from the six episodes of Anakin's story.
They should have just focused on the EU. In particular the Yuzhan Vong war would have been perfect for a trilogy. Also they could have told the story of Jaicen Solo, his fall to the dark side and redemption. He would have made a much better villain than Kylo/Ben
I think the best sequence would have been something that takes inspiration from history. After Alexander the Great died, his massive empire divided into 5 smaller empires that fought each other for dominance until those fell as well.
You could have had 4-6 different villains trying to fight our heroes, but also each other for dominance. Maybe one is Admiral Thrawn himself, and another is a politically well connected Politician from the imperial senate, and another is ruthless crimelord that took over Jabba the Hutt's criminal empire. Another could be a mysterious new sith lord like Snoke. All these bad guys try to assert their authority in their own section of the Galaxy forcing a much more ugly civil war as they all jostle for position and control of Coruscant in GoT fashion. It's not just a matter of good guys killing bad guys but also convincing the worlds they visit that Luke and Lea are the real deal and not just another faction trying to leverage the Jedi memory to gain power.
You could even "subvert our expectations" by having snoke knocked off in episode 8, but with all the other antagonists well established in episode 7. Only then do we realize that Thrawn is the true threat in episode 9 when he takes down his last rival in opening of E9. Though he had no sith powers, he was established as more intelligent, more charismatic, and more determined than any of the other antagonists that were trying to fill the power vacuum.
Most of the Old Guard died in episodes 7 and 8 as per Harrison Ford's request, and the young guns have to take on Thrawn alone using what they've learned. I definitely would have avoided the plot threads where Han and Luke are old disillusioned losers though. Because there's no reason to do that unless you're a man hating feminist trying to hijack the force for your own propaganda purposes.
Mine would have looked like: The Force Awakens, The Last Jedi, Duel Of The Fates(Colin trevorrow)
that trilogy would stand the test of time. as things are right now, only the last jedi will.
What they had to do, but didn't:
1. Keep events and characters consistent. If something or someone changed, have a good explanation.
*2. Give us a reasonable explanation for where the antagonists came from, and what their goals & motivations were.*
3. Give your protagonists proper characterization, and keep it consistent.
4. Don't try to ramp up the stakes by just making "It's like a Death Star, but MOOOAAARR!"
5. If you're going to blow up a planet, make it tense, make it plot crucial, and make it mean something to the audience.
6. Don't bring back Palpatine, that just screws up everything.
7. CONTROL. YOUR. F*CKING. DIRECTORS.
8. Keep characters & story before agenda. Your message is only as good as the character and story that conveys it.
If they had just followed these rules, I probably would have loved the sequel trilogy. Even characters like Rose Tico or Admiral purple-hair could have been interesting if the writer had made them believable characters first.
Honestly it should have been tv shows, whether animated like the clone wars or live action like the mandolorian, and fine stories like the thrawn trilogy, dark empire, the Yuzang vong arc and heir of the Jedi. I mean they already tried to rip off dark empire and heir of the Jedi soooo
A DC style animated movie for the Dark Empire and Crimson Empire Trilogies would be disgustingly great 🤣
I would’ve started with the Old Republic as there is so much thats vague that they could’ve worked with, could’ve manufactured their own original story, still is a lot of potential there ☝️ and thank u so much for including my figures Thor! Much love!
I didnt like Luke Skywalker with a beard. My first change. Make him look like a clean, wise and high class Jedi Master, the greatest of all time. not some pathetic hobo in a cloak. He looks like an old man, not like the greatest, most powerful Jedi to have ever lived. Idk, maybe Im crazy, but his character design doesnt spark memories of Luke Skywalker.
ernie lancto I didn’t mind the look, but I definitely hated the characterization.
It sparked memories of Obiwan ... that old hermit
@@TheLexiconDevils Luke just doesnt seem to be the type of character to grow a beard is what Im saying. Luke isnt Obiwan, even though they tried to make him the "hermit wizard" character, similar to him.
Maybe Mara liked Luke with some facial hair, especially after that clone debacle...
@@____________838 Honestly I dont care about what you said at all.
Lucas was going to dive into the "whills", which are the entities behind the Force, who act on Force-sensitive races through the midichlorians.
If I understand this correctly, this relates to Jung's idea, "People don't have ideas, ideas have people." This would have been an interesting exploration of something very, very deep in human psychology, and I'm not sure if anyone could have quite pulled it off.
If anyone could, it would have been George. I am sure many thought his original film couldn't be pulled off either.
Canon and excellent lore existed already. Had for YEARS! It was ignored, and I will ignore Disney in return. It's up to fans to make great things now...
👇 Like to pay canon respects
No. This is just being jaded over something that the creator didn’t ultimately care for or considered as his Canon.
What I would have done would be effectively been a mixture of the Yuuzang Vong and Dark Empire but with a change in characters, and an introduction to the concepts Lucas probably wanted.
George Lucas Rules!
While the story isn't my thing, but I liked some ideas from the 'Legacy' comic series.
The New Republic and the New Jedi Order, the Imperial Remnant with Imperial Knights and maybe a new Sith Empire with Sith. And all of them would like to have the last of the Skywalker line join them, which isn't interested in the Force and does the best to ignore Luke's Force Ghost.
Something like that.
how yall doin
The biggest disapointment of the sequels for me was not having Anakin's force ghost in The Rise of Skywalker. You'd think by the title they'd bring back the saga's central character for a triumphant return, but instead they just made him disembodied voice. If TLJ disrespected Luke through character assassination, TROS disrespected Anakin by excluding him from what should've been the coda to his story.
Not a fan of George’s vision for the sequels though I would have liked that he helped write the sequel trilogy and of course have a plan. Because I like the ideas that the sequel trilogy had they just needed better execution.
I think my trilogy would've been taken heavily from the expanded universe. 7, 8, and 9 would be the alliance transitioning into taking and holding worlds, go into the internal struggles of the empire as moffs split and fought back and forth, and how it splintered the empire. Have two main plots, first have an officer dedicated to the empire attempt to hold it together and resist the alliance. But he's constantly being undercut by greedy moffs fighting back and forth. Follow his battles with the aliance fleets under Akbar/Solo. 2nd plot would of course be the struggles and victories of luke, han, leia, and so on, to retake the galaxy, and form a "new republic" and go into the struggles of decisions from a political perspective with leia, and Luke's search to rebuild the jedi, as he finds hopefuls, and maybe one turns against him and joins the empire, and so you have this duo of the brilliant officer and the new sith lord, resisting the alliance. Conquest of Coruscant in episode 8 by the alliance. Episode 9 the final defeat of the empire, triumph of luke, leia, and han, and the signing of the new republic charter ushering in a new era for the galaxy.
The Sequels should have not existed because they didn’t need to
Or any other company for that matter.
Alex Chaudhari Not if Lucas didn’t sell, which he wouldn’t have if Iger didn’t bug him about it.
@@ForceMaximus84 He sold it because his company was facing bankruptcy. That is public information.
Alex Chaudhari Please elaborate, because there’s no documentation I could find.
Alex Chaudhari But according to Iger and his book, he approached Lucas about selling.
What I wanted to get from a new triology :
Familiar planets like Tatooine and Coruscant
A re-established Jedi-academy
New ships
More focus on the new Republic
I would have put it way into the future, say a couple of hundred years or more, where the whole galactic civil era was just an dark memory of old tales. Then we could have a gang of young Jedi padawans with Rey and Finn in the lead on a quest to explore the stories of theyre childhood in order to find out what really happend and if there still was a threat from the assumed death Sith. They could find Jedi and heroes from the past through holograms, holocrons, force visions and force ghosts to help them on the path and it could all have ended with all those heroes from past and current to gather together to help Rey save the day and bring a final defeat to the Sith. Then those new heroes could go on and have theyre own movies where they handled new and different threats to the galaxy. Johan
Lucas's vision was always that the saga was about Anakin Skywalker. The saga could have been set up like this:
The Prequels: The rise and fall of Anakin
The originals: The redemption of Anakin
The sequels: The legacy of Anakin
Yeah, Disney pretty much blew it.
i think the logical set-up was as told in the prequels (Darth Plagueis) if this guy is still out there you have even broader context to Anakin and and the force lore as a whole. a way to up the stakes and keep it relevant to the saga as a whole.
I think this is one of your best written-discussed videos I've seen over the last several months, especially the whole "What Lucas was thinking....." theories. Selling to Disney on its surface was actually a VERY GOOD idea and if everyone took a step back and said, "what I do... xxx" its a very valid sell for him. Disney was a very logical choice to continue his vision, his movies, the SW story on a general path.
Unfortunately, as w/many things in todays world for whatever reason corporate paths, direction, hell I dunno what word to use, really went off the tracks and let EVERYONE down, except for maybe their stocks or stockholders. Its actually kinda sad, heartbreaking b/c I think we can ALL see, gosh this road right over here was sooo easy to go down, your path was lite so easily to follow and they said, "you know what?? Lets cut a path through all this bush, briar and thorns for NO particular reason and see whats behind it all.
Really a headshaking, palm to the forehead process
Here’s the Trilogy synopsis I came up with. It’s long so make sure you have time before you decide to read through it. Critique it as you may.
Episode 7: Echoes from the Darkness
Plot: The New Republic faces off against the First Order, a military junta built off the back of the Imperial Remnant. No one knows the true leader behind the group. However, its commander ‘Kylo Ren’, a masked figure who idolizes the old Empire, holds a significant threat to the newly united galaxy and holds a curious grudge against Skywalker and his New Jedi Order.
Climax: Kylo Ren and the First Order fleet arrive above Yavin IV, the location of the new Jedi Temple. A battle ensues and the Jedi are hard-pressed to defend their temple. Kylo Ren manages to defeat Rey in a duel. When all hope is lost, the Republic fleet arrives and forces the First Order to retreat to fight another day.
Resolution: Rey meets with Luke after the battle who hints that he knows more of this threat than he’s letting on. The final scene shows Kylo Ren arriving at the planet Mustafar where Vader’s Temple once stood and bowing before a throne which obscures a dark figure sitting on it. Kylo removes his mask and the dialogue between him and the shadowy figure reveals him as Ben Solo, son of Han Solo. The movie ends with Kylo Ren leaving angrily, having failed to destroy the Jedi. The camera pans as though it is going to reveal the face of the figure before it cuts to credits, leaving the viewer to wonder what the identity of this strange being is.
Episode 8: Knights of the New Republic
Plot: After the second Battle of Yavin, Luke senses a threat beyond the First Order and receives a vision of a pale-faced being with a scar commanding Kylo Ren from the shadows. Luke recruits a team of Jedi Knights led by his daughter Rey Skywalker to the Sith Homeworld of Moraband to recover a dark Holocron that may hold the secrets to this threat. Meanwhile, the First Order has been growing abnormally in strength and the Republic fights desperately to quell the growing threat.
Climax: Rey and her team are attacked on Moraband by Kylo Ren and his followers, a group of elite dark side adepts named the Knights of Ren. Rey defeats Kylo and his followers are forced to flee.
Resolution: Kylo is aboard Rey’s shuttle where he is being questioned about the First Order. She reveals that his capture has remained anonymous and the news has not yet reached the New Republic, hoping to use this as leverage to convince him to speak. Kylo finally reveals the identity of the true mastermind. An ancient being who calls himself ‘Snoke’ who has been around for centuries. He reveals his lineage to Han Solo and that Snoke used his family as manipulation to turn him to the dark side. The final scene shows the Knights of Ren kneeling before the shadowy figure just as Ben had at the end of the previous film, to reveal the betrayal of their ‘brother and leader’ Kylo Ren. The camera pans once again, this time fully revealing the face of Snoke to the audience. Snoke simply gives a grin and chuckles before the credits roll.
Episode 9: The Last War
Plot: With Ben Solo redeemed Snoke reveals himself to the galaxy and takes control of the First Order, renaming them the ‘New Galactic Empire.’ With a now fully established Empire, Snoke declares war on the Republic. Luke receives a vision from his father Anakin, whom he had not communed with in ages, who says that the boy (Ben Solo) and Leia are the keys to everything. That the New Empire threatens the balance in the force and that they must be stopped from conquering a single world if they are to be vanquished for good. Luke calls a meeting at the Jedi Temple, ordering all Jedi to attend, where he lays out a plan for the Jedi and Republic to defend the core worlds and the rest of the galaxy.
Climax: Several battles ensue across the galaxy with the Republic facing off against an emboldened empire led by Sith puppets put in place by Emperor Snoke. Ben, Rey, and Leia head to the planet ‘Morge’ (Note: Doesn’t exist in any continuity. Legit made up the planet. Think Malacor from Rebels merged with Exegol. That’s the idea behind the planet.) in the unknown regions where Snoke resides while Luke uses the Holocron recovered from Moraband to shield the Jedi and Republic forces from the influence of the enemy.
Resolution: Snoke reveals his identity as Palpatine’s former master Darth Plagueis who had deceived his apprentice into believing his death. He believes the galaxy is too far gone to ever be redeemed and that the ultimate goal of the Sith has always been to purge and dominate not just the galaxy, but the universe at large in order to establish what they believe is the ‘perfect paradigm.’ At his Palace, he has long been performing experiments to unlock immortality and power so that he could ascend himself to a god-like status. He reveals his latest discovery to the Jedi, an ancient ritual used by the first people of the galaxy to attain what seemed like nigh unlimited power which he hoped to execute. It’s revealed that only a Skywalker has the power to stop the ritual. That their bloodline has existed longer than they have imagined. The Knights of Ren then interrupt and a duel begins with Rey and Ben fending off the knights while Leia attempts to stop the ritual. Luke senses the battle from across the galaxy and uses the Holocron’s power to shield the entire Temple where the duel is taking place, ending the ritual and destroying Snoke in the process. The planet Morge begins to collapse and the three Jedi are forced to flee the planet. Returning to Yavin IV we get a final celebration scene mixing elements from A New Hope and Return of the Jedi. The movie shows scenes of the planets rejoicing along with the Republic soldiers celebrating their victory. The movie ends with Luke and the others standing side by side surrounded by the force ghosts of the great Jedi of old. Roll credits. End of the trilogy.
I left out a few details to try and shorten things but this is more of a basic outline of how I would go about things. Let me know what you think. I spent some time thinking this bit over and I might think about actually fleshing out this idea but I’ve had it as my brainchild for a while now of a basic idea of what I would want. I won't go into a rant on that here though. May the force be with you. Thanks for reading this if you did. I'm out.
Great video maybe a bit too honest and personal which makes it very much needed. I do enjoy the new movies but couldn't find in them what Star Wars is all about. It is only MY opinion but for me one of the key aspects is hope. It was always hope above all else. Hope to fix your family, hope to fix your world and the life of your beloved ones. To save people... Not destroy, disappoint and kill all things however great that line is. THAT is Star Wars. Argument, passion, belief, family, MOST of all family. So everyone, and I do assume all of us Star Wars fans should cherish to receive some new products to have fun with or be upset with. We do all enjoy this because this what makes us: the star wars family:)
If I had my way, the sequel trilogy would begin as follows where Episode VII takes place within a few years, if not immediately after, the battle of Endor and the destruction of the second Death Star.
The situation in the Galaxy is as follows:
1. With the destruction of the second Death Star, the death of Emperor Palpatine, and the Rebel Alliance scoring another major victory, more systems openly join the Rebel Alliance. There is a power struggle within within the remaining forces while at the same time they are still in a state of war against the Rebel Alliance.
2. Coruscant is still the capital planet of the Empire, and the Rebel Alliance, now with open/public support and membership of many systems, forms (an interim) New Republic Government. But this New Republic is also not completely united or homogeneous, they also have their own internal political agendas/struggles between various factions. They do not disarm or demilitarize. They have scored several more victories and are preparing to re-capture Coruscant which is still the primary seat of power/government for the Empire.
3. Luke Skywalker, after having redeemed his father and the death of Palpatine, is now focusing on re-establishing the Jedi Order. He has managed to find a few Force sensitive (maybe surviving Jedi in training or Padawans who managed to escape the purge and were in hiding during the rule of the Empire, or maybe "children" of Jedi who managed to escape the purge) and looking to find/restore lost knowledge of the Jedi/Force.
4. Leia Organa, as she is a trained diplomat and former member of the Imperial Senate, focuses her energies on the "political/diplomatic" missions of the Rebel Alliance/New Republic and gathering more allies.
5. Han Solo is playing the role of a military commander/leader in the Rebel Alliance and is tasked by those higher in the chain of command to assist in making the mission/battle to re-capture Coruscant a success.
6. There is a mysterious/masked person shadowing/trailing Luke.
If I had to split my take on Episode VII into three acts, this is my take on Act III.
Luke and maybe a few of his new-found fellow Force sensitive "trainees" have secretly infiltrated Coruscant snuck into the old Jedi Temple to see if there is anything to help them re-establish the Jedi order and learn the ways of the Force. Unknown to Luke, there is an assassin tracking him. At the same time, Han and maybe with Chewie and Lando, have also infiltrated Coruscant to gather support/form a fifth column among the population who will be ready to provide planetside military support the moment the Rebel Alliance/New Republic's fleet launches its attack on the Imperial forces defending Coruscant.
Act III ends with the Imperial forces defending Coruscant being defeated and the planet falling into the hands of the Rebel Alliance/New Republic. Luke manages to fight off the assassin, who though manages to escape and flees on an imperial shuttle. The assassin, worn out from fighting Luke, and the escape shuttle having some damage, is lost in space but doesn't know it has a tracking beacon. That beacon allows an Imperial Star Destroyer to locate the shuttle and the assassin is rescued. On board, the assassin's mask is finally removed when the commander of the Star Destroyer enters to question the assassin. The final scene shows the audience that the assassin is a woman with red hair and is greeted by the commander of the Star Destroyer as "Emperor's Hand". The scene doesn't show the audience the face of the commander, but shows that he is wearing a white uniform, has dark hair and blue skinned hands.
Roll end credits.
Prequel Trilogy: Fall of the Galactic Republic due to corruption, and also the Jedi Order due to arrogance, complacency, over confidence and of course due to Palpatine's manipulations.
Original Trilogy: The struggle to topple the reign of an Empire that oppresses freedom. A journey of the hero to redeem his father.
Sequel Trilogy (what it should have been): The struggle to restore peace and order, freedom, democracy, in the Galaxy. And also the restoration the Jedi Order.
I think it would have been great to see the Empire fractured into many factions, with the remains of the Imperial navy trying (and failing) to maintain power, and
the New Republic (the reformed Rebel Alliance) and a New Jedi Order under Luke trying to bring actual order to the galaxy. In fact, Kylo Ren could be used to better effect in this version, because he'd see the chaos of the Empire's fall as an actual _reason_ to trust the Imperial Remnant more than the Republic.
I would have liked a trilogy about Cade sky walker, Jaina solo and jacen solo you know actually good characters. Honestly it’s time to go to the old republic. I want armies of Jedi vs sith, I want more lore about the force, the father, daughter, son and abeloth something amazing!
I really wanted to see the EU. I wanted to see Jacen Solo turn and the family aspect that we just didn’t get in the canon sequels. Also the Vong would be really cool to see as well
I think Disney should have started, at least with some kind of guideline or plan for a sequel trilogy if they were going to do one. It's like you said they had everything, a trilogy drawn out that Lucas had already written. But Disney immediately dug their own grave by throwing out what Lucas had drawn up and deciding to do their own sequel trilogy from scratch.
They should of been this, a well thought, well written & well directed trilogy........WITH A PLAN!
They just need to have hired a hand full of writers and EU authors to map out 10 years of movies and TV shows, like Marvel did. Instead they tried to whip up a series of movies together quickly, like DC did.