PRO in GarageBand vs BEGINNER in Logic Pro!
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- Опубликовано: 26 июн 2024
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What would happen if a pro and a beginner producer went head to head producing the same song? BUT... the pro has to use GarageBand and the Beginner can use Logic Pro X!
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yooooooo! such a fun vid!!! nathan, you’re the man. i had so much fun doing this. still got so much to learn but i’m excited to get started!
YESSS! Give this man some LOVE! You did great man!
Keep Up the Great!!💯
loved it!!!
Keep it up bro :D
You did awesome man!!! Give us young producers some hope lol
The track was really remnant of the song: “attention” by Charlie puth
Definitely, after I read this it sounded like it lmaoo
That’s what I thought too!
It’s the same chord progression and the same key. It sounds like if “Attention” by Charlie Puth and “Eastside” by Benny Blanco were combined
Yeah I was looking for this comment
It’s got the same key chord progression and a similar melody
I didn't realize Garage band was so powerful
Too true man. Now I want to learn to use garage band like that!
Garageband is incredibly powerful, by far underestimated.
the presets are incredibly usable and intuitive, it lacks some features of logic, but you can definitely get good results with garageband
I've done some decent garage band recordings on my iphone with the app definitely a underrated tool
I started on GarageBand and then moved to Logic. First off, GarageBand has A LOT of stuff that I never noticed before. Super useful things I only noticed after I dug into Logic for a few years. My only complaint are issues with the grid and stuff. However, I wish I put more effort into learning GarageBand cause its freeeeeee.
He really has his earbuds plugged into the interface. Legend.
Is that a weird thing to do? I genuinely am asking lol
@@UserNameGenerated Not really. The point is he should use headphones. It just looks kinda silly I guess lol
@@RipCityMixes how is headphone better than earphones
@@dOVERanalyst way better frequency response
They both are cool tracks. Very different. Nate's is straight-up pop-radio ready. Dexter's sounds like it could be on an Alt-J record. Both EXCELLENT in their own way.
This was amazing to watch!
I actually prefer Dexter’s version. He really captured the emotions, while Nathan created a banger, but also a version that is something you would expect.
Dexter’s version illustrates the wonderful surprise of the unexpected. His lack of experience has his mind completely open to sound. He has no expectations at all and therefore has created something quite unique. His lack of experience on this track is his friend.
Agree
i love his version
i think he don't need more drums progression.
only problem is his unedited voice
I LOVE the way you said this!
I agree that while Nathan's piece was so accurate and polished and pleasing to hear that style by itself is becoming a cliche if it maybe so called so. Though, probably Nathan's has done a great job within the industry "standards". Dexter's interpretation is beautiful and different but it needs a lot of Nathan's experience to make it sound great. Thumbs up for both and thanks for bringing this "competition" up. It is teaching a lot as well.
No
Dexter had some beautiful ideas regarding texture and timbre; he’s got more or less an artistic concept behind it all, which brings a lot of soul
Nathan, while going for a more steady production philosophy and perhaps a little detached from it, showed however an absurdly well done mix
Cheers to both, hope to one day be a little bit like either of you
Dexter's had more soul more personality if you ask me something that is lacking in today's auto tune world even though both were definitely using it I find sometimes less is more. Dexter you did an awesome job 👏 love your style and way of thinking, simply amazing
I literally commented this and started scrolling down and seen this comment and wanted to say wow we think alot alike. Also wanted to say I totally agree with you as I have a hard time connecting with new music as it's to much auto tune production with the soul stolen right out of it.
Yes, this. Nathan's is super slick, but Dexter's got that soul. He's got the true talent!
It’s pretty hard to get that production quality from GarageBand as a beginner
They should work together on a track.
Both tracks are really awesome! I also didn't know GarageBand was so powerful in the right hands.
I liked both! One had the potential to sound like Imagine Dragons style and the other a Charlie Puth style ❤️
Yeah I like them both too. And your totally right about both styles. Very nice tho to be honest.
The first one sound more like Woodkid I find
@@Fanat1kMusiks never heard of woodkid! If u can suggest me their best song I’d love to listen to it!
@@AbigaleKirsten I really love "Iron" & "I love You" from Woodkid :)
Saying someone sounds like imagine dragons is the biggest insult
My favorite part is when the beginner calls hi-hat snare
Actually u are mistaken bruh 😂
@@tadeogog634 My snare always opens!
I mean the hi hat is functioning as a snare
@@SamSwinnerton even if it is functioning like that in this case it’s still not a snare, I wouldn’t call pan a pot even if I would use it as a pot
@@yarav1533 case by case basis I’d say. If I was creating a snare sound out of the sound of me stepping on a can, I’d call it a snare in my project, because I’m treating it like a snare in the mix.
Love watching videos like these. Really shows that it's not about the software, it's about the person who uses it.
Dexter’s is more unique but unpolished. Nathan finished what he started and mixed it spot on. Nathan had time to sleep on it so had an advantage there on top of the experience..I would like to hear a collab and finish this song, or have Nathan help to finish Dexter’s version.
Nice job! Dexter’s version sounds its all about “feel” having the limited experience his musicality is at the steering wheel. While our Pro here really puts out an amazing commercial production that sounds like a radio hit really well done! I think that being able to keep a balance between the 2 things I.e. musicality and craft is where we all would love to be but I also think it’s really hard to do both well.
Absolutely! I truly believe you should put what you're best at in the driver's seat. He did that well by getting creative!
"...an amazing commercial production ..." Gotta admit I read that and wondered...is that suppose to be a compliment or a criticism? lol
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@@AveragePicker it really depends on your target, but I get what you mean
"While our Pro here really puts out an amazing commercial production"
to be fair this wasnt a "who can make this poppy song sound original" battle...it was more of technical one of "who can make this poppy type song sound better through production" and you can even hear the pro like "you cheated you took out the chord progression" but then he stopped himself short cause he didnt want to bitch
it's that thing where the beginner one sounds really just great because of how interesting and different it is, but needs just little touch ups here and there. where the pro one is perfect but in the end sounds really like what it's supposed to, so it ends up a little forgettable sadly. I think it's an interesting reminder for everyone.
100% well said
I think it would be cool to see what they would come up with working together and combining their visions for the song!
Dexter’s sounded great like a creative pop song with some artpop influences but still very catchy. The other song sounded like perfect bubblegum radio pop that I’d ignore. :)
To be honest I liked dexter’s version better. The only thing that’s missing was some bad ass drums. Good job Dexter, keep it coming.
Agreed
The idea is really really good to be honest
I agree! Some hard hitting drums coming out of that drop would KILL!
Bad ass drums and a little post, would have been awesome. Better then I would have done, and I've been at it since I was 9.
His voice sucked lmao
For me, the lesson of this video is not about who’s better and whether experience will always prevail or not. For me the lesson is, learn to collaborate, make friends, smile through each challenge and make the best of what’s in your head and soul. Keep a light heart, tame your ego, listen to others, appreciate diversity and learn to never stop learning. Thanks to you both, for highlighting where great music making really comes from.
Nope...as much as yountryna sound positive, that wasnt the goal of the video.
@@emmanuel.n8458 it’s still good to find other, even deeper meanings to videos sometimes, ofc the video isn’t about it but still a good thought about it
Oh come on😂
Where’s a good place to find others to collab with? I’m a beginner and would love to find others to learn and produce with.
This comment is the greatest thing I have every seen. Thank you for that it was perfect!
I love how positive and supportive you are. I've been getting more into the mixing and producing aspect of my music lately and I love your videos and tips and have been getting a lot of ideas from your videos, especially the pro vs beginners. Thank you so much for doing what you do.
By the way, you both did awesome
Dexter is really frickin smart and well spoken. I’m very impressed with his perspectives AND his production. With a mind like that he’s gonna go far
"He's only been producing for a few months!"
OP-1: "cap."
i feel like some people think buying the most hyped and expensive equipment will make them gods when they start so i actually wouldn’t call cap at all. Very amateur move actually
@Remy Chambless haha I've been doing it for two as well and I'm still using the FL studio 20 demo 😅
@@RiZeLegiT this is true. I would kill for an op-1 tho haha
@@mitegai3027 haha same but it’s hella pricy for my taste, one day fs tho
I’m thinking of making replicas of the op1 chassis for people to put in their videos. Imma gonna be rich!
Dexter: All things considered, mad props to you my man! I love your vocal as well as the direction you took this challenge. You have some awesome vision, and the tools help make it shine.
Nathan: I really love what you did in GB... proving once again, a little bit of knowledge can take you a long way. I've been following you for a year or so. I can't wait to see your new "Live" formats of writing and production. You've opened up my eyes and brought me out of a dark place, where I feel everything I create sucks!
Both of you have motivated me to stop being so critical and work through the process, make some decisions and finish something! Thank you both, best Xmas present I've gotten this year!
james, thank you :) reading this made me feel really great. there were times making this track that i was really critical of myself too and was feeling very self-conscious... but getting over that hump and getting it out there is so important!
Great job Dexter! Keep at it! Having spent some time on this journey myself, I'd say that what this clearly illustrates (GB vs Logic notwithstanding) is that as you develop experience with producing, one thing that changes is the depth of the production - the number of instruments/harmonic ideas and percussive elements. "Overproduced" is a real thing of course, so the other experience is how to carve out space for elements and knowing when to stop. Great video!
Final outputs
Beginner- 10:05
Pro - 12:51
God bless u
@@kvshpvrp haha thank you and god bless you too :D
Not all superheroes wear capes.
Thank you!
Beginner sounds definitely way better
Do more of these! I don’t care so much about beginner vs pro, but I love hearing different people’s takes on the same song! I’m assuming everyone follow you already knows garage bands limits. Do more Challenges like this!
This video answered a burning question for me. "Is Garageband 'good enough' to develop skill and move towards making great art? The answer as demonstrated by Nathan is .. "oh yeah it is!". I didn't hear Nathan saying he felt significantly limited by Garageband for this use case. More like he worked with what was available and was able to produce something semi-pro sounding rather than something too limited to be viable. Conclusion, one's experience and skill comes first before transitioning to the ultra-professional gear. Have always appreciated Apple's generous gift of Garageband as a very capable entry point to music composition.
I actually Liked dexter's Song more,the other one was for Sure more Professional produced but im Not that into pop music anyways and in dexters voice i really felt the passion.
yeah but he fucked up the drums
“I don’t know how to quantize yet” press Q brother 😂
“I haven’t learned to Google yet either”
he meant quantizing audio, which you need flex for, its not piss easy actually
That's exactly what I mumbled to myself while I was leaning under the desk plugging in my phone 😂
Challenge is nothing, it's the joy and enthusiasm you both share and it makes me feel happy to watch this. GREAT voice Dexter!
Both pretty good! I like the originality of Dexter's, the quality of Nathan's was great but the style too commercial for my liking. Good way to challenge each others ear. Good job guys!
I looove both versions it's wild how the music can make a song feel and sound completely like a whole different song. Totally different vibes, just kudos to you both! Love your videos thank you!
I have to say, first off both of those were incredible!!! But also as a beginning producer, I’m glad to see so much can be done with GarageBand. I’m mainly using it to mess around and seeing what can be done with it really inspires me
The melody sounds really close to attention and both of them added a different colour and texture to the song ❤️
Guys you both have done something really cool, and I love seeing and feeling the way the way each of you manage to create a very different and unique arrangement, but I'd very much enjoy the receptive warmth way you both react to one another arrangement. Well done you both, Cheers!!
'' he's been producing for only a few years''
beginner actually has a 1200$ OP-1
Not even years he said only a few MONTHS
I caught that. He's also using busses and stacking sounds I believe. Must be a quick learner though?
thought of this too lol
Well expensive gear aren't just for pros tho.
anyone can buy expensive gear
I can’t even pick a “better” one! As an “amateur” I absolutely love both and I can tell the first needs polishing but the vibe is there and the PRO is amazingly polished! (I feel like it needs to be a little more raw though! Emotion is so important) thank u guys!
The track sounds like it should have a huge beat drop at the end, with some gritty throaty vocals, like that would absolutely SLAP
I was waiting for that, I'm disappointed now 😞
Omg dexter is adorable and has so much enthusiasm. I love his voice, and I would like to produce a song with his vocals!
I like both and again it is proven that creativity is king, i lost a lot time looking for sound or gear,resulting in lots of time is LOST
Thank you for the amazing video
Yoooo these were so good! They're both rich in their own way! The anticipation of hearing new projects is so electrifying! I hope I can be a good producer one day!
This is a great idea Nathan! Really enjoyed both versions. Though Nathan's experience does make a difference, Dexter's love of music and talent shine their own lovely light! Bravo!!
Oh my gosh, Dexter has the most amazing personality! He just made me smile the whole time watching this 😂 Amazing job to both of you! Thank you, Dexter, for being willing to do this, and to Nathan for making a video like this 👏🏻 Loved hearing where different minds took the song
He was awesome wasn't he?!? So great to see his personality come out! Total blast!
OMG!!! Both are soooo good! can't even choose cause you both present such a different vibes! Great job Nathan and Dexter!
I thoroughly enjoyed this video. Nice job by both of you guys!
I love that you show how important experience is over gear!
Props to Dexter for taking on this challenge and delivering this after such a short time!
Cheers,
Phil
As a rookie producer myself, I thought both were Amazing for different reasons. One had a edgy almost ready to explode vibe. The other a more polished pop vibe. I got what Nathan was saying about Dexters track and taking to the next level, but seriously had huge amounts of potential and his creativity was off the chart!! Can’t wait to see Dexter exploding onto the music scene 😀 I’m assuming due to the talent and work Nathan did on his track he’s pretty much there and if not, he should be 😜.
Well done guys, such a brilliant video!
Nathan I love your track so much, i’m trying to produce using garage band because I have limited resources, i always thought of upgrading my tools for better work, but you proved the tools do not really matter, the skill does. You are really inspiring ❣️
Nathan, this is a cool video and you two guys are so friendly, I love it! Your production shows how it should be. Very cool arrangement and no fear to use FX. Wish I would be so creative too. Thanks for this kind of stuff!
Dexter keep learning and making it happen, great go!!
Yes yes yes!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥😎😎😎😎
I’m so used to hearing producers on RUclips who only make hip hop and house that hearing an actually well composed and produced pop song at the end caught me off guard, excellent production
just two random artists appreciating each others calibre..
more of such love is needed in the world in between humans 💝
Absolutely loved both...... Totally different directions!! Bangers both of them!!
I loooved this! Great job, both of y’all. Dexter’s was fun..I really liked the vibe of his. I loved the build up and beat drop of Nathan’s. It’s crazy how different production can make a song sound like two completely different songs.
At 12:00 that's literally me every time I'm writing a song and picturing the full prod😭😭😭😂😂
You both did amazing! Great job!!!
That was awesome!!! Props to both!!! Loved watching the process.
Great job by both of you. Makes me think of how important it is for different ideas from different people can breath new life into a great song.
Absolutely! 😎😎🔥🔥
Pro sounds like "Attention" - Beginner sounds like Mallory Knox
It’s all fire over here, good job love the vibes. Experience is key
I love how they both listen to them again y’all are amazing
My dad uses Logic Pro and the software is so complex but so fun. Especially mastering people’s music.
Dexter: Love your attitude, approach and result. Awesome. Nathan: Meh, 2/10 - jokes mate, that kicked in really, really hard. Loved it!
Haha Dexter truly did fantastic not only creatively but on camera did great! Thanks! 🔥😎
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Loved this... Really interesting contrasting outcomes.
I really love Dexter's version - largely BECAUSE he doesn't use drums - it's akin to an acoustic version and the simplicity and minor key vibe draws me in - I would wholeheartedly agree that adding drums for the NEXT part of the song, the unwritten second verse, would be amazing to step it up. It's like he understands that it's a short song, like a short film, where you can't do everything you'd do in a longer song/feature film, so you create a snapshot of potential for a bigger production. Both are fantastic though and I'd love to hear a full version of the song
Niiice! Good work, Dexter and Nathan both! Cool to see the difference in direction and production. Great content here.
😎😎😎
Both tracks are great. We all know the pro made a more polished version, but the beginner did quite a good job for someone who's only been doing this for a few months. I'd listen to both versions again.
Amazing job, Dex. Great idea, Nathan.
that's fire Nathan. Love the vibe
That was a really cool video I thought both tracks had much too offer and took creative twist. I do have to say that the pro track sounded a lot fuller and took more advantage of a wider variety of instruments.
I saw the chorus for this going in more of an 80’s vibe synthy jam
This video was super inspirational for me. I have only just begun producing. Been playing music for many years in different projects and the COVID pushed me to start trying to make music at home. Hats of to you Dexter. I can't even seem to get a 40 second production out yet (keep getting stuck with getting the timing right and drums) and you did a great job. And Seeing the difference in what year's experience makes gives me hope that I just have to keep at it. Thanks Guys!
Dexter & Nathan both well done. This was very interesting to see different approach to an musical idea. Keep it up!
You gonna produce his track? Seems like a winning combination
Yooooo we were legit talking about it! We are discussing the possibility 😎😎
@@NathanJamesLarsen Please do it! Fill it with some fire drums and hit us with it! :)
Sell it to imagine dragons, $$$ 🥳
I'm here on behalf of the world, asking for an update on this. 🙏
Dexter has an amazing voice damn 🔥
Indeed!
cheers simon!!
@@NathanJamesLarsen does he have a RUclips channel?
Idk there were several missed notes and hollow tone
@@NathanJamesLarsen where can I find his song?
This was fun to watch, great info as well!
Great video! I loved both versions... props to Dex for going in a way different direction... I think combining the two would be a trip!
The beginner def needed some work but the pro made a generic radio song I've heard 1000 times lmao Liked the beginner's song much more.
Whats wrong with that?
@@emmanuel.n8458 it's generic
@@skeleton-bullfrog most things are generic man.
@Lucky starr but they're better not generic. That's all I'm saying. My reply didn't work
Yeah I noticed that too. Pro isn't necessarily a better song. It would've made a way better song if pro worked off and expanded on beginners starter song
Hey Dexter, great job on that track, the only thing it lacked was some experience, so keep at it because you've got a really solid base.
Forget about the haters, the internet is their playground.
Wow that was great! keep the good vibes going
This was so dope! Great songs on both sides. Nice job Dexter!
dexter had that james blake thing going, realy nice and nathan yours makes me think of timberlake, so damnn.. enjoyed them both equal ! (although production quality on yours is just mindboggling in such a short time)
Ya, I felt the James Blake vibe, too.
As someone who is dabbling in this area, this was very interesting to me, specifically the thought process of why certain instruments were chosen once the direction of where each of you felt the song should go. Sometimes I think the difference between the pro and amateur is the confidence the pro has thru experience and practice. Well done, fellas!
Both were fantastic, and the making of the songs were totally entertaining guys… loved it
Good job Dexter keep it up you are on your way!
I gotta say, I really liked dexter's version a bit more. I typically like slower sadder sounds though. But they were both incredible!!!
"wow I have a lot to learn" 😆 I love his attitude
these are awesome!! pls do more of these challenges. i think both tracks were amazing!!
Nice job … both of you put your touch on a basic simple concept and beat and each respectively owned it. Well done each of you!
I definitely enjoyed both. Personally the style that Dexter did resonated with me better (just preferences lol) and I think it would be amazing to take what he did and turn it into a full length song using your skills to really polish it out. (I really hope that all made sense)
The results are sounding professionnal.
This vid was an absolute blast to watch.
Dexter has great energy and attitude and I look forward to seeing what they produce down the road.
Great video!! Love both songs but Nathan you can tell you’re a pro. Such a catchy song.
Lol a “beginner” with an OP-1
Exactly my thoughts lmao probably he wanted to try it at first itself
Beginner to logic? Not in general I guess?
@@Wazules maybe.. seemed to have a pretty solid knowledge for a beginner
What is an OP- 1?
@@feelsbadman1677 the instrument he has to the right of him, kinda pricey
Interesting, two complete versions. Beginner was more creative in his interpretation
Yo, Dexter, dude, that sounded great! Keep on working that magic, man.
Nathan, first time on your channel, yours was no doubt professional and top-notch, very impressive.
you guys are very talented! thank you for sharing!
What'd ya'll think!?
according to the short time of his experience he did very well, and you Nathan you are incredibly good
Am... Rookie did it really creatively and it was great, but you've done it better all around! :) That production quality.. Wow, so punchy mix! Also liked that echo-ish guitar accents :)
Really cool!
I loved both ..I
Think it's hot to hear two different perspectives on Artwork ..you can't compare I really think it's a matter preference
Once you achieve quality sound and sonic control..you both walked into a beautiful concept from jumpstart.its like quality oil paint and watercolor paper
Nice work..nathan you are on another level
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I love that the response from both of you was to listen again.
amazing. i wish to see that kind if challenges even more often 😊
Great job one and all Dexter keep it going man I'm new too and I'm trying my best thank you all
Keep at it Bob! 💪💪