New Street Fighter 6 Characters & A New Tekken 8 Mechanic (TGA Fighting Game News)
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- Опубликовано: 30 июн 2024
- streamed Dec. 9, 2022
There were some cool trailers and news from The Game Awards, and some Tekken fans are a bit concerned.
0:00 Street Fighter 6 New Characters (Dee Jay, Manon, Marisa, JP) and Release Date
• Street Fighter 6 - Pre...
• Street Fighter 6 - Pre...
9:08 Tekken 8 Story and Gameplay Trailer
• TEKKEN 8 - Story & Gam...
14:15 Tekken 8's emphasis on 'aggressiveness'
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Marisa: "This character punches the shit out of you."
Other characters: "[interesting fighting style influenced by...]"
Back to Marisa: "This character beats the SHIT out of you."
I mean, he's not wrong.
Sajam analysing the characters all eloquent like, then it cuts to Marissa and he goes "she really be messing you up" is the true essence of fighting games
It's so cool to see the reception big-lady, jeweler, Marissa has gotten. Some people can't get past her wacky hair, but... SF is kind of a series with wacky hair. She definitely has the most satisfying hits of the characters so far, especially that parry grab, IMO.
its because her design is something you would have seen better animated in Alpha or 3 or something you would have gotten over in 4 because pretty much ALL of the females use a male polygonal model thats touched up a bit. but in the RE engine she just look ugly as hell because of the "more realistic" shading and modeling. it just looks weird-er given the proportions.
@@lordxmugen lol k.
@@lordxmugenif anything, the RE engine makes every character look better
@@kingjohn8980 Except when it doesnt. *looks at Jamie and Marisa*
Visually I think she looks real dumb, built like gief with a sports bra but gameplay looks great. Same with manon, weird shaped face and body but interesting gameplay for a grapper(?).
Talking about Deejay "Forces Stand, and wiffs on crouch." My sides, my feels. Good work as always. Love to see Deejay with new stuff, he might be a fantastic zoner.
Jun was actually never confirmed dead. Jin just assumed she was killed by Ogre. But then again, do fighting game characters ever really die?
M. Bison...
@@tootsie_ He won't be gone forever.
Kliff confirmed
I really doubt Heihachi will even stay dead
@@El-Burrito Liu Kang was brought back as a zombie. They will always find a way.
RE engine is one of the juggernauts of gaming engines out there right now. Capcom really flexing it's muscles. Looks great, runs great and is extremely versatile with the games.
Marisa attacks have such a visceral feel to them from the trailer and Manon looks so cool. JP looks so wild.
I am feeling the strive effect again where everyone looks so fun to play
But instead of cutting down every characters moveset, they all get new shit added onto of their old moveset
@@notimeforcreativenamesjust3034 Yeah this is absolutely the opposite of the "Strive effect" lmao. It looks like they're working to take steps forward instead of back.
Don’t ever mention Strive like that again
@@notimeforcreativenamesjust3034 You know how in TF2, weapons are designed to be sidegrades instead of X weapon but better or worse? (as in not upgrades or downgrades, simply a different playstyle) I can't be the only one who doesn't mind Strive's changes by viewing it through that lense. People are trying to say it's like what SFV did, but it's really not.
I kinda guess Marisa is a Pankration fighter in SF. Thats why she fights very brutal
The "Mishima" feud is kind of over. Kazuya killed his dad, so he's the only Mishima. Technically Jin is a Mishima, but he goes by his mother's name Kazama. And basically all Jin has to do is kill his Dad and then either not have kids, or if he has kids, don't treat them horribly and try to throw them off a cliff. If Jin loses then it looks like Kazuya is basically free to take over the planet since no one can really stop him (except Paul?)
Who is Paul 🤣
@@thisRyuIsMydp paul did almost best kazuya in t2 or 3 iirc before he became a joke character
For real, Paul is no joke. He's also one of the few people who defeated Ogre
At this point Paul is fucked if he tries unless he has some special power.
All Jin needs to do is not throw his kid off a cliff or into a volcano and he'll instantly be a better dad than any other Mishima.
Bruhhh anytime there’s a close tekken match and they have a “staredown” waiting for the other to whiff; even from watching a VOD, you can hear the crowd going nuts and getting hype! You can’t aim to take that away for more offense. They can’t be serious?!
yea if they take that away then it's not tekken anymore
Marisa looks so damn cool. I mean everyone does really, I can't wait to try SF6
Listening to, Sajam EVO Speedwagon, analyzing fighting games is still the coolest thing ever
Marisa got that Magneto helmet
They should make it so Dee Jay has a power boost too if Kimberly uses her level 3 super on him. Also, can't wait to play Manon. I like that kinda character who's not all grab but still kinda is like Abel was.
Nice break down, sf player here but fun too see more tekken stuff 🙌
JP is basically a buffed up Falke
Tekken devs once again falling into the trap of "Our game didn't sell 15 million copies? it must be the gameplay's fault"
JP is talking about Bison finding a vessel for the power right?
It would be exciting if the mechanic worked like TOP and you had a variable area you could place it at. I hope there is a counter defensive aspect to the offensive mechanics. Think having a variety of strong but specific defensive mechanics make all the best fighting games, and have considerable offense to offset
Loved the "go feral" line haha
This Heat sounded like a RISC-like bonus for engaging at first, but if your impression from the trailer sounds right it reminds me more of the Spark mechanic from Rushdown Revolt- Keep engaging successfully and you keep getting it back to add resources to your approach.
Rushdown revolt might be the most overlooked fighting game of all time. It’s so dope. Unfortunately I think some of the aesthetic choices hurt it.
@@austingoyne3039 I could believe it- I like that they have been willing to overhaul the old characters from the previous project Icons- whether it's better or worse than before depends on the character.
@@austingoyne3039 for me it was not good technical state of RR. Crashing from 1v1 oof.
@@TheOblomoff oh yeah that was a big problem too.
@SAJAM300 this is a bot in case others don't know
1:41 is when evil majas lighting kicks in (He's a Marisa/Menon player[derogatory])
Tekken is the only fighting game the wives/moms play when I have brunches. The teens can't handle it when they lose to their mom and it is hilarious.
You should seriously put videos of that shit up because that sounds hilarious.
11:37 Man...he should have went for it. ⚡✊
yeah the first tekken trailers quality def looks more detailed then the second
it's still looks great tho and with us being so far off from the game they could still make stuff look cleaner :o
Focus on offense and e-sports? Real SF5 vibes there.
You can actually see Manon's legs flexing whenever she jumps up to do the spinning kick. You can also see Marisa's arm flex and veins bulge when charging that punch.
Imagine if when SF6 was revealed Capcom was like "footsies are wack," that is lowkey the ign article lol
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"I wonder if it forces stand and whiffs on crouch" LMAO that would be peak Dee Jay design
When I see two high level players wavedashing at each other but not pressing an attack gets me so hype!
I think heat system will be cool if it makes easier to launch your offense rather than just make offense stronger across the board. Like if you can identify your turn this help you capitalize on that rather than it creating the opening itself. I always found Tekken to be the most fun to watch because of how important defense is so a change like this might make it more fun for me to play but less fun to watch
It definitely won’t be more fun to play if you can just force your turn like that. And if it’s a straight up RPS situation? Nah I might skip T8 altogether
I defend new games so much, but I totally get where these folks are coming from. It almost sounds like tekken saying 'you know the least liked over designed elements in fighting games these last five years? Did you think developers were finally hearing you and striking a better balance? Have we got news for you!' lom
So far everyone in SF VI looks frickin good. I’m not even a brawler and grapplers fans but i wanna try Marisa and Manon :3
@naijahunt2338 Because like 99% of people excited by Marisa, it's just the horniness talking, not fighting technique.
Capcom site says Manon is only 5’9
How
you sound like Bill Hader's impression of a vice reporter
I think by now the Tekken community has earned the right to doom post about their game by now.
Thank you
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They gave DJ Dandy Step.
You know, “Dandy” and “Cool” could be considered synonyms…
Btw it says Leroy in the background of the Lars. fight
I think a lot of people dislike Tekken's pacing because after a certain level, the risk/reward is so heavily in the defense's favor that it limits the viability of the 80% of the move list.
I think they wanna open it up so that more playstyle archetypes are tournament viable. Instead of jab, df1, ss, df1, kbd 2x, homing move, low. Rinse. Repeat.
Inb4 JB stands for Just Bison. Cuz that's definitely just Bison in a new body lol
When I saw Marisa in the leaks I thought “wow she looks lame.” Now after seeing her gameplay that’s the character I’ll probably main 😂 Either her, akuma, Ken, or deejay. Manon actually looks interesting too.
Also Sajam has a perfect pause at 5:16. You DEFINITELY can see bison in that special move in that frozen frame. His back is toward Ken
Yes, you can see Bison, it’s that missed V-trigger command grab animation (stand Bison)! JP controls Bison’s power?! Also there is a link between JP and Devil May Cry V, there’s a character called V (Vee) who uses a cane and so I’m calling it now but DMC 5 character skins confirmed! Manon is Lady!!!! Help me out people… I can’t guess all of these.
Marisa is objectively very based
@@Sir_Robin_of_Camelot She's the opposite of based, darling.
6:43 sf4 dee jay still catching smoke for that normal lmao
Plot twist: JP is the vessel bison found.
JP's specials are giving me Ed's Psycho Snatcher vibes.
Manon looks the coolest to me
Is there any information on whether Deejay is a charge character or not? In Omega Street Fighter 4 they made him a motion character and he was SO much better to play!! This is coming from someone who primarily mains charge characters like May and Blanka, I love charge inputs, but they never fit Deejay as a character. Him being a charge character just makes him Diet Guile and it SUCKS!
The reason he feels like diet Guile is because they didn't give him more than 2-3 moves.
DNF Duel is where the defensive mechanics are very weak.
Excited to see the new SF characters in action. All 3 are interesting in completely different ways. Looking at the leaks I wasn't sure if JP was gonna be that interesting but he's a buff old dude who casually smacks you with a cane as he summons his Bison Stand.
I don't play Tekken really so I can't comment too much. Hope any new mechanics introduced can be integrated well into what fans want, not that everyone can be pleased. That said, we still don't know the online right? So at best I can be cautiously optimistic for it.
His stand: [DICTATOR]
1:38 except woolie who thinks JP is related to Q and G lol
Can't believe Slayer is Brazilian
This video was as long as an episode of anime.
"I don't get why people are upset about people being upset" re: Tekken 8 and Heat
I think it's mostly b/c some youtuber put out a video called "Heat - A Problem???" within a few hours of Harada giving 2-3 sentences to IGN, and now Majin's tweeting about having Strive PTSD - and we know basically NOTHING about the new game. I guess I wish some people would chill out and wait for more info, but it is what it is.
tl;dr - not trying to gatekeep discussion but the immediate negative framing is tiring, shrug
The music and choreography/editing of the SF6 trailer is great.
Dee Jay getting STURDY in that intro
"The way we've designed this game is just ex when she press matchups 10-0"
Can't wait to play as christopher lee
I can’t believe sajam made DNF cost a million bajillion brazillion dollars in latam and now no one plays it 😡😡😡
How did Sajam influence what a company charges for a game?
@@CrowsofAcheron It's called a joke.
hi sajam is it gay to fall asleep to your voice
no I fall asleep to old men doing accidental ASMR talking about stars n shit all the time.
ok maybe just a little bit.
I LOVE Dee-Jay's new design he looks great!
@Sajam106 you must think I'm stupid
Comment is clearly fake and I got a normal like not a heart from it.
It would also say that specifically Sajam replied, try harder at this.
@Sajam106 also, lol telegram
Just bought sf5 off the hype for 6. Is anyone like Marisa in 5 cause she sold me on street fighter im coming from anime fighters
Lol maybe Abigail?
Alex
You came from anime fighters and you want to play heavy characters
It's been a while since I've been this excited for newcomers in a fighting game. From the concept art alone I thought they were all cool except for Manon, but she's actually the one I'm most excited to try now
Why do I get 2d vibes out of those Tekken 8 stage designs?
Sakura Oogami skin mod for Marisa when?
The problem is, the neutral is Tekken's UNIQUE STRONG POINT. If it devaluates to the s*it neutral of strive, the game will lose all identity. We need to make movement and defence BETTER, not vice versa.
Also, real martial arts and current Tekken are SUPER FUN and deep to watch. Especially if the fighters are testing the others' distance and movement, it's super hype, though yes, requires some knowledge to appreciate. You *cannot* make a fightie less deep and more accessible and not simultaneously kill off the deep deep level of appreciation. Also, the similarity to actual martial arts is what made Tekken great. Hopefully it will make it great in the future too.
Man if you want me to play these games, you're gonna have to do something about these prices!
Right now I’m thinking my characters are Chun Li and Juri (my old SF4 favorites) and Manon and Marisa (the new hotness).
You’re right it’s a lose lose. I’m excited for T8 and whatever it brings. The community is trash tho they were just bitching that Tekkens been making the same game for 1000 years and now that they try and change things up it’s all “WTF man this isn’t the Tekken I’m used to” bunch a dummies.
That didn’t mean: adopt the worst aspects of the current fighting game industry ie. stripping away complexity, pandering to casuals who’ll drop the game after 3 weeks, adding more RPS.
The core of Tekken should stay intact ie. complex, 3D focused, the chess of fighting games.
This is why I left Tekken community, most people act like superiors for playing a 3d game, yet they can't adapt playing other types of FG.
Is there really a major change? It looks to me that people will be still remaking tekken 8's gameplay to Tekken 6
@@austingoyne3039 meh Tekken's been the most casual friendly since the last decade of Tekken 7.
Masher and ungabunga friendly.
SF's footsies is more of a chess.
Even combo executions, 2d is much superior.
When we are talking about complexity in 3D, Virtua fighter is the right game
@@housegold2081 true it’s been getting more unga for years, that’s my point. T8 will stray too far from what gave Tekken its identity.
Virtua Fighter is great, it just doesn’t have the features of a modern game yet. So if VF6 ever gets made maybe I’ll move on from Tekken.
@@austingoyne3039 lol the games nowhere near done. I’ll wait to play the game before trashing it and complaining. I’m just glad there’s a new one coming as T7 is pretty bland right now. You could always just not play T8 I guess.
Sajam made my Russian copy of Koihime Enbu cost a dollar more how dare he act like he is blameless
0:38 This is one of the things I'm actually most excited about-before this, it seemed like your custuom characters would just copy the full moveset of an existing character, Soulcalibur-style, but this implies that you can mix and match moves, which is awesome!! I was hoping this would be the case but I didn't think it would be!
Edit: Ooh I didn't know about the blog post at 7:37!
It would be really cool if you end up maining Marissa after what you said.
Manon voguing in her win pose looks so sick, especially with those colors.
I'd main her if Marisa wasn't a thing. She hits like she has nukes for fists. I can't not main her.
Harada said that Paul gets bad hair every 4th Tekken game. It's tradition.
Marisa looks sick
*AHEM* Re: finally taking for responsibility for your actions, Sajam, if that is your real name, did you not "pop a cap" (to use the parlance of the times) in a "mofo" for no other reason than the sun was in your eyes?
Thank you Sajam!! Ffs people like Aris were making me feel crazy for being concerned.
Never trust Aris on anything regarding opinions on Tekken or fighting games in general, _except_ for his shitton of knowledge, which is definitely respectable. As far as fighting games are concerned, he's just a grumpy, cynical jaded shit, especially since most fighting games are going online, which he notoriously hates. He knows his stuff, but fighting games have passed him by. He just hasn't realized it yet.
Marisa doesn't look like she's JUST a strong brutish fighter, she's actually brutal and has technique to her. She's a fucking tower of strength who knows WHERE to put it, and that's rad.
It's kinda weird how they almost tried to frame a stand-off of powerful opponents as NOT fucking incredibly cool, knowing that they could destroy each others mistakes and the respect they display is hype as hell. Boxing matches where both people know how dangerous each other are become even better.
You're talking like she was an actual person. She's a computer generated thing, that's why "she looks like just a strong brutish fighter." Go seek help, buddy.
i feel its strange that SF6 has better character models but tekken 8 has better graphics. Art style plays alot
Lol "I'm not going to main that character, there's like no chance." I sort of feel the same way. Her moves are cool but I low key hate the magneto/juggernaut helmet.
Manon will be my main until viper shows up. If she does.
I hate how 99% of comments about this character in SF6's videos are obnoxiously appraising like she's the second coming of -Jesus- Akuma.
Your comment is the first level headed one that I found since the character's reveal.
Yeah, I can somewhat understand the hype but for me, I don’t really like her default outfit. I know she’s from Italy and loves gladiators or what not, but it just seems a bit much to me lol
To me, the Tekken 8 designs remind me of the westernized games that Japanese developers were trying to make for the 6th generation of consoles
I get the feeling JP was specifically given the initials "JP" for a reason...
If Heihachi is dead then they have broken the suspension of disbelief
Dee Jay looks usable in this trailer, hopefully they nerf him into the ground like SF4, wouldn’t want anyone to play him
Am I the only one that thinks Manons' mound is a bit much?
Yes.
She’s making the most of what she’s GOT!
Will play Tekken 8 for it has better body type 2/female characters. SF6's type 2 chars are horrible like balding Chun,Kimberly,Mariza. And Eternity is the most terrible. Hope to Stop playing this freak for the future of gaming. Tek 8 is the better choice.
Go touch grass - NOW!
Who's Eternity?
@@elneco4654 Black Enby with bright colored hair in Battle hub intro.
@@tomvhresvelg9286 ah, that.
Lol k.