Chris Knobbe, M.D. - Obesity & diabetes: is it the sugar, ‘carbs,’ vegetable oils, or all three?
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- Опубликовано: 2 авг 2024
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Since the late 19th Century, we’ve observed exponential growth of overweight, obesity, and diabetes. In the U.S. alone, overweight and obesity have risen at least 35-fold since 1900, while diabetes has risen 35-fold since 1935. It has become fashionable to blame sugar, carbohydrates, or both for these disorders, which are now of pandemic proportions. Furthermore, the interest in both the “low-carb” community and published science has seen an almost infinite increase in recent years. But will dropping sugars and carbohydrates solve the problem? In the U.S. we’ve observed carbohydrate consumption falling since 1997 and sugar consumption falling since at least 2004, while obesity elevated from 33% to 42.5% and diabetes elevated from about 4% to 13% during this same interval (2000-2018). Seed oil consumption, on the other hand, continued to rise. Other countries have similarly challenging data for the ‘sugar-’ or ‘carb-hypothesis’ of obesity and diabetes. Answers to these vexing problems may lie in longitudinal observational data observed in “Nature’s laboratory.” 
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This is Chris Knobbe and I will gladly answer the recurrent questions regarding the definition of "added sugars," as used in these graphs. In short, the sugar does indeed include high-fructose corn syrup! In fact, I will quote from our soon to be published book, as follows:
"The data (since 1961) on "Sugar Consumption" are derived directly from the FAO and are corrected for post-production losses using the USDA’s current loss estimate of 28.8%. The FAO and U.S. FDA definition of “added sugars” is as follows: “Added sugars include sugars added during the processing of foods (such as sucrose and dextrose), foods packaged as sweeteners (such as table sugar), sugars from syrups and honey, and sugars from concentrated fruit or vegetable juices. They do not include naturally occurring sugars that are found in milk, fruits, and vegetables... For most Americans, the main sources of added sugars are sugar-sweetened beverages, baked goods, desserts, and sweets.” (Reference: 1) US FDA, and 2) FAOSTAT.) Data before 1961 are derived from The Department of Commerce and the USDA (continuous yearly sweetener sales from 1822 to 2005), as published by Stephan Guyenet, and are also corrected for losses. (References: 1) The Hungry Brain, Stephan Guyenet, PhD, and 2) C. Knobbe, Stojanoska, M. Medical Hypotheses. 2017;109:184-198., and 3) C. Knobbe, A. Luff, R. Sommer, et al., scientific publication pending).
Thus, added sugars in the diet as used in all of the graphs shown in this presentation (and pending scientific publication) include all forms of added sugars, including all forms of granulated sugars, sugar-sweetened beverages (SSBs), corn syrup, high-fructose corn syrup, maple syrup, honey, and all fruit or vegetable juices. I hope this answers the sugar questions!
Hey Chris another great talk! I'll ask you a question I asked Tucker Goodrich* but when we look at populations that are eating 95% sweet potato my question is how is it possible for them not to be def in several B vitamins but especially B1. In the 19th century Japan was crippled with Beriberi yet white rice has higher B1 than sweet potato.
Ok it is possible that the feast of pork these people had made up for it. But I have no idea how often these feasts were. Once a month? A week?
People point to the high levels of Thiamine in pork but if that is a product of special diets modern farmers give their pigs then it is possible the "feast of pork" wouldn't be enough even if they did it once a week. It sounds like they ate the pork a few times a year.
*Hey replied but I don't think he understood what I was getting. I hope I've explained it well enough.
@Chris Knobbe MD what effect will replacing seed oils with butter or ghee have on obesity, diabetes, etc?
Thank you for answering the HFCS question, Chris. And thank you for the good work you are doing.
@@kevy2176Drastically improve your health, butter and ghee are healthy for you
@@colinthomson5358 The Japanese white rice is highly polished, stripped the skin and germ hence vitamin B1.
To me, this is the single most important video that we ALL need to see!
This is the most important video of the year 2022 (so far), and it only has 1.3k views.
It was posted a few days ago.
@@martywilsonlife It's now 4d old and has only 1.6k views. Last year's Chris Knobbe AHS talk has only 65k views. PewDiePie's latest video was posted only 3d ago and has 1.8M views.
I totally agree! I've shared this video with family and friends. Hoping others will do the same thing!
Thank you SO much for taking the time to watch Dr. Knobbe's video and sharing your thoughts! That means the world to us!
Blessings,
Suzanne Alexander, M.Ed.
Executive Director of Public Relations and Philanthropy
Health and Nutrition Researcher
Ancestral Health Foundation
Cure AMD Foundation
Your senile president war mongering, inflation, fentanyl just to name a few... You must lead a very sheltered life with nothing to lose.
@@aliendroneservices6621 "PewDiePie"?
Fast food restaurants use a lot of vegetable oil. It is getting impossible to eat out without getting a ton of oils in your food. I think it is best to cook your own food and eat lots of fruits and vegetables.
Vegetables are toxic.
Exactly my thoughts. My hubs and I were just saying you better not ever eat out.
I agree, MMs.JNix! Thank you so much for taking the time to watch Dr. Knobbe's video and to share your thoughts!
As Dr. Knobbe and I travel quite often, we have learned how to maintain our healthy eating habits by either taking a portable electric cooktop and stainless steel pan with us and preparing our meals in our hotel room. Or, when we do go to restaurants, as I have Celiac Disease and I'm extremely allergic to most food including dairy, we inform the waiter and/or chef of my severe food allergies and request that my meal be prepared without oils, spices, soy, seaweed, butter, etc. and Chris requests that his meal be prepared with no oils, as he's lucky to be able to handle most whole food if prepared ancestrally. So, we suggest to our followers to ask the waiter to add no oils to anything they order. You might need to share that you have an allergy and must avoid all oils and this should take care of the situation. We've had great success with this. I've only gotten extremely sick a few times from restaurants that may not have realized that there was a cross-contamination with one of my allergens while preparing my meal. It is possible to go out to a restaurant and have a healthy meal! We're working on possibly creating a truly ancestrally-based restaurant chain! Perhaps that will force other restaurants to follow our lead!
Blessings,
Suzanne Alexander, M.Ed.
Executive Director of Public Relations and Philanthropy
Ancestral Health Foundation
Seed oil ????
I agree except for the vegetables.
This information shows how important it is to eat a diet of whole foods and eliminate highly processed junk foods 😊
This was a very compelling presentation, and I do believe that seed oils are not a natural food for humans and toxic, but I would have liked to have seen an examination of differences in activity level between late 19th century and modern day to flesh the case out a bit. I believe this may well be a confounder which could explain at least some of the increase in obesity and diabetes we see, despite some downward trend with sugar and carbs (and please note again I'm not negating the role of seed oils in this at all - I believe Dr Knobbe really is onto a very major contributory factor to modern health issues with that!). It's possible that those people in the 19th century/early 20th could indeed have had a surprising sugar and carb consumption but offset it maybe by being more active. In the modern era it's possible that sugar and carb consumption are still too high and toxic for us because so many people are now so sedentary, with more labour-saving devices etc, and therefor not burning up as much of the sugar they do eat, causing a glycation burden on their bodies' systems. I personally believe that seed oils, plus other industrialized, processed junk filled with sugar and carbs we no longer burn off in daily activities, along with general lack of real food and sound nutrition, are all factors behind the current public health crises around the developed world or anywhere the population no longer eats a species appropriate, real food diet. The bad dietary advice in the 80's telling people not to eat the ancestral animal fats hominid species have eaten for millions of years was totally insane and has been a complete disaster for us health-wise, as we have seen. Replacing these with industrialized seed oils just smacks of a corporate interest-based scam to my mind. I've seen nothing to change my mind about this suspicion, and plenty to reinforce it.
Truck drivers drove trucks in 1950s and truck drivers today drive trucks.
There couldn't be a more striking difference between the truck drivers or both eras however as the ones in the 1950s were slim and healthy, yet were doing the same low activity job and were consuming sugar etc..
@@lrn_news9171 I've come to think your POV is correct - seed oils are so toxic they're causing significant metabolic damage.
As others have mentioned, the sugar in these charts comes from consumption of cane sugar/table sugar. It's not including actual sugar analogs added to processed foods or even high fructose corn syrup. It's also missing out of two more things...the increased glycemic load of processed carbs and also the concept of hyperpalatibity. These things AND seed oils lead to an average ncrease intake of 200 to 300 calories per week for an average American. His charts on total calories is disputed by many studies. The take away is this: processed foods are super bad and cause weight gain, diabetes, heart disease and cancer. A lower carb diet with good protein manages hunger, keeps insulin low, leads to weight loss and t2d reversal. Eat real food.
They've done studies where all they've all lived on a swap out the kind of oil and have thrown in fast food such as Fried French fries and found that a person's calorie consumption has still dramatically dropped job has automatically dropped just by one change
There's a little problem with your theory pal, the Chinese and Japanese have both been eating loads of white rice for centuries and have remained lean. It wasn't until vegetable oils were introduced that there's now an obesity problem. Nice try pushing low carb bullshit.
@@Underview you sound mad. Are you mad? I'm not disputing the problems with seeds oils. However it's clear from many many RCTs that low carb diets are effective in combating metabolic disorders. Low carb diets have the side effect of lowering processed food intake which reduces seed oil intake. Win/win right? Even white rice is still minimally processed compared to flours, it's still a mostly whole food. In Japan, even vending machines have healthy options and are minimally processed although containing a small portion of rice. Japanese consumption of wheat has also increased dramatically over the past couple of decades or so which is also contributing to their increasing obesity.
@@OGPedXing Found the keto cultist. Fact of the matter is that there's no intergenerational data or any long term data over decades on the effectiveness of Keto. A lot of people give up on Keto, just like the Vegan diets.
@@Underview who me? No, I've never been in ketosis long term. Nor do I advocate for that becuase it seems extreme. However I am very metabolically flexible and I can enter that state very quickly, which is in line with our evolutionary heritage. Humans have a nearly unique capacity for it...most animals cannot enter ketosis at all without caloric restriction, which I find fascinating. Personally I think that the default species appropriate diet is much lower in carbs that the standard American diet. Somewhere around 100 to 150 grams per day.
don't forget to add how we have adopted the couch potato lifestyle, starting as video game marathoners as kids and growing into netflix bingwatchers as adults. Most of our work (and the years of school leading up to it) is sitting in a chair staring at a screen. And there is the constant stress from "performance anxiety", from a schoolkid worrying about jumping through the hoop of the next test, to our work that tells us to work harder so you will get a (probably pitiful) raise, or at least not get fired.
I like these thoughts about vegetable oils. With keto/low carb, they can take someone off sugar/carbs and immedately improve their weight, get them off their diabetes drugs, and their blood work is better. I haven't seen something nearly as convincing with vegatable oils.
We are munching and drinking while watching
Truck drivers drove trucks in 1950s and truck drivers today drive trucks.
There couldn't be a more striking difference between the truck drivers of both eras however as the ones in the 1950s were slim and healthy, yet were doing the same low activity job and were consuming sugar etc..
The low activity argument is overrated and doesn't make much sense once you dig deeper
Thanks for your talks on seed oils. A fourth factor would be keeping insulin jacked up by eating from the time you get up in the morning until you go to bed.
I remember him from low carb down under channel. I think he even demonstrated details in krebs cycle.
The problem with sugar isn't so much that it detrimental effects don't scales in correlation with consumption in terms of weight the problem with sugar is that it weakens and compromises the system leaving the body open for all sorts of issues and making it harder for it to defend and regenerate itself
Yes! People aren't seeing the forest for the trees.
Thank you for saying that. I was about to exonerate sugar for it’s deleterious effects… LOL
@@massageistherapy some random guys can so easily reconvince you
And where does that show up in the charts?
You're confusing carb/sugar consumption with dysregulation of blood glucose. Not the same.
Although he makes a good case that vegetable oils are a cause of obesity and diabetes, there are plenty of randomized trials showing sugars and starches are a significant factor in obesity, diabetes, heart disease, and other health problems.
Did the people who participated in these trails consume seed oils and seed oils laden sweets? almost everyone is on a high seed oil diet today and it's combination with sugar probably accelerates the effects
If what you're saying is true then why are obesity and diabetes rates and sugar consumption showing a negative correlation or very weak correlation at best.
it doesn't correlate in literally any country ever
The deluge of poorly regulated, added factory chemicals to our farming and food manufacturing since the 1980s is another piece of the (Ultra Processed Food) picture missing here.
Hey Chris, you need to show where these oils actually are in our food, like Lecithin being 70% Omega 6/ Linoleic Acid in chocolate bars and candies, most Jamba Juice drinks, store bought smoothies. In AG1 the latest craze in RUclips vids.
What's the amount of lecithin they put in protein powder for instance? probably quite a small amount I would think
@@lrn_news9171 lecithin is in emulsifiers, textures, stabilizers, natural ingredients/flavors, anti caking ingredients and in low enough levels to not have to be listed on ingredient lists of many products, why because it can extend shelf life of most foods and maintain texture, color and hide rancidity.
How about the fact that a century ago there were no cars, no trains, no air conditioning, no sir and soil pollutants, no fertilizer & pesticides, no gem seeds and so on.
Excellent presentation and layout of the data
This video should have many millions of views.
Great Great Great to watch, Thanks
Stick with wild caught and pasture raised, grass fed grass finished whole foods and you should be fine. Stay away from vegetable oils and other processed foods. Stay away from grains too.
Where I get that...?
Prepare to spend four times more than you do for everything
The problem with your data is that you don’t include high fructose corn syrup, only sugar. Which I will assume does not include hfcs. And your graph doesn’t include highly processed foods.
I’m pretty sure you will find those two items would also mirror the escalating obesity.
video gaming graph will also mirror escalating obesity
and dozens other graphs ...
How do hfcs different from sugar in biological effect on the body? Do you think slightly more fructose will make the difference?
Lustig does see HFCS as being particularly bad, as I recall.
He does include HFCS in the sugar. Here's part of his comment from 3 months ago found on this page:
"This is Chris Knobbe and I will gladly answer the recurrent questions regarding the definition of "added sugars," as used in these graphs. In short, the sugar does indeed include high-fructose corn syrup! In fact, I will quote from our soon to be published book..."
rather than sugar what about glucose vs fructose tracking?
Wow, interesting..
Oh shoot, now I have to throw away most of my food! No chips, no canned chili, no mayo, no peanut butter..... Ok im going to check all labels now!
Good luck lmao now I'm even concerned about the eggs I'm consuming because they're grain fed which means higher levels of omega 6
I thought I was on quite a low omega 6 diet since about a month now but even Olive oil which has been my cooking oil of choice could be anywhere between 5% to 13% linoleic acid. It's difficult to know how much your particular bottle of olive oil contains.
Whatever I'm doing now is way way better than what I was doing
My god! I watched Knobbe’s lecture on vegetable oil years ago when his hair was still black, what happened to him?
He stopped living a lie: ruclips.net/video/H0bRGsev4fI/видео.html
He stoped dying his hair black obviously.
Could it be coffee/caffeine? I don't know if he drinks it or not.
climate change
Definitely not the mRNA "vaccine"
@@johnnyvee3339 He's had white hair since he was 14: ruclips.net/video/H0bRGsev4fI/видео.html
It's odd how most keto-maximalist insist that all dietary fats are NOT the same but refuse to entertain the idea that all carbs(sugar, starch, fruit, etc...) are NOT the same. Fruits and tubers do not cause diabetes nor obesity.
Well most people I watch on diabetes say sugar from fruit doesn’t change your blood sugar, Professor Ben Bikman, and Sugar MD, all say fruit doesn’t spike glucose.
@@sandrawestley4193 If you're already diabetic, both proteins and fruits can cause blood sugar spikes. But fruit does not cause insulin resistance.
@@erickminor I’m not diabetic yet, I’m pre diabetic, 6.8 it was, so trying to lose some weight and cutting carbs so that’s why I’m doing Keto, but it’s slow work. I’m doing less than 1000 calories per day, my husbands doing the sardine fast starting tomorrow for 72 hrs see if that will give my body a good kick up the backside, he’s doing exactly like I am but not quite so strict and he’s lost 14 lbs, 😅 nothings fare in this life. I have checked my blood glucose after I have eaten some berries with Greek plain yog and it did not affect it. Over the 4 weeks I’ve been doing Keto I’ve managed to get it to 5.4 or similar with fast first thing in the morning.
@@sandrawestley4193 Keto isn't about calorie counting. I suspect you are interpreting it your own way and maybe missing the point of it. Eat high fat meat and limited veg, also limit to one meal a day and results will come quickly.ATB
Eat only grass fed and grass finished beef and organic chicken make your own condoments with healthy oils. Eat pasture raised organic eggs. Dont eat at restaurants . I limit my carbs to 5 to 10 net carbs per day and some days 0 carbs.
Impossible for people of modest means. Not to mention that regular grocery stores don't offer these options because the prices would mean that most of their customers wouldn't buy it.
Consider the results if the sugar and/or carbs weren’t present. Obesity and diabetes rise in relation to seed oil consumption increases with sugar in the diet. Sugar may play a role in the reactions.
I look forward to reading your book.
Big glaring hole in this guys argument. Are we to assume he’s talking about ‘sugar cane’ being on the decline when he’s referring to sugar consumption? If so then what about all the sugar substitutes that the food industry are using, and that have the same metabolic effect when consumed? Insulin spikes! So he can lump all vegetable oils together but not sugars…… so as a society our sugar consumption is continuing to increase.
This is a fantastic presentation, Chris, thanks for sharing this information. Vegetable oils are like the plague, best to avoid.
Great presentation! I suspect the mitochondria don’t like all the excess linoleic acid since it’s used mostly to make up the cardiolipins of the inner membrane where the electron transfer chain produces our metabolic energy. Damaged mitochondria could be the link between excess linoleic acid and chronic disease.
This is an excellent presentation. We all agree that seed and vegetable oils are the culprit for our poor metabolic health but I would still say that we eat too much sugar/carbs for our activity level. Back in the days, they walk to get anywhere, they were more active than our couch potato generation. They planted what they ate and they ate local and fresh food. That should be taken into account also.
It's ALL Three. Stop all Carbs, Sugars, and Vegetable Oils and Vegetables period!!!
Ray Peat would agree.
Loving the white hair
Me, too!!
Does the study account for what type of sugars made up those numbers and how the composition of those sugars changed in time?
It doesn't even separate refined sugar from whole foods. Very bogus analysis.
I think sugar in statistics refers to cane sugar. Other types might be hard to get numbers on.
Most of the increase of sugar probably has come from high fructose corn syrup. That apparently isn't being included in this analysis. That is problematic. Lustig, as I recall, thinks that HFCS might be the worse.
It also does not account for the chemical herbicide glyphosate that was increasing in our food at the same time.
The analysis doesn't account for differences in activity levels over time either, an issue I've pointed out in a comment above. I believe inflammation caused by seed oils and also issues from randle cycle activation caused by sugar and carb consumption that is no longer offset by daily activities (as might have been the case before all the labour saving devices we now have) are two major drivers of the modern health crisis. Dr Knobbe has it partly absolutely right I think, but he omits to account for difference in lifestyle between the past and the present which has led him to allow what effectively these days still amounts to excess carb consumption off the hook.
I feel like seed/vegetable oils are causing metabolic dysfunction in out bodies causing autoimmune/metabolic diseases. For some people like me it’s impossible to lose weight when consuming foods cooked in these oils or have these oils as ingredients. I think it might be a main driver of diabetes and obesity at the cellular level. Knobbe makes a great point that sugar isn’t completely responsible for our ailments. When it’s combined with these oils in the food, cooked with the food it just adds to the metabolic dysfunction down stream. It’s just another catalyst in a sense. How many fruitarian do I see on RUclips that are very skinny/frail/boney no muscle to them. Makes sense to me
is olive oil a seed oil? What about Tahini, made from sesame seeds? What about black cumin seed oil for good health? I need answers.
This is fantastic! And indeed, it is compelling. Thank you Prof Knobbe for your superb work.
Thank you so much Afifah, for sharing your thoughts on Dr. Knobbe's video! We appreciate your kind words more than you know!
With gratitude and blessings to you!
Suzanne Alexander, M.Ed.
Executive Director of Public Relations and Philanthropy
Health and Nutrition Researcher
Ancestral Health Foundation
Cure AMD Foundation
@@suzannealexander Thank YOU for putting your energies into such important issues. I'm sharing it as much as I can. Love to you and the team!
@@afifahhamilton8843 Oh, Afifah, Thank you SO much for being so wonderful and supportive of the work that we do! And, thank you SO much for sharing this video with people in your life! You are part of our team!! The more people we reach, the more lives we save! That is our mission! Sending love and hugs to you!💖
Blessings always!
Suzanne
Suzanne Alexander, M.Ed.
Executive Director of Public Relations and Philanthropy
Health and Nutrition Researcher
Ancestral Health Foundation
Cure AMD Foundation
@@suzannealexander Right back at you Suzanne. 🙏
@@afifahhamilton8843 💝
Chris is my hero
Mine, too! He saved my life!!
@@suzannealexanderhe's helped me a lot. how did he save your life?
@@Claframb I'm SO thrilled to hear that Chris has helped you a lot!! Thank you for telling me that!
I was vegan for about thirty years, eating what I believed as a health and nutrition researcher to be the most optimum diet for humans...no seed oils, no processed food, no processed sugar...natural sugar from the fruit I consumed, soaking and sprouting the gluten-free grains and legumes...taking the needed supplements that a vegan diet cannot provide for a healthy body. For the first few decades, I felt fabulous! Then, gradually, my health started to decline. My lab work was showing that something wasn't right. Neuropathy set into my feet. I couldn't keep my weight on no matter how many calories I ate. I thought I was getting Alzheimer's as I couldn't remember simple words or the names of family members; I felt as if I was going into a comma each afternoon while teaching my students. Eventually, my doctors believed that I had bone marrow cancer as my white and red blood cells and platelets were at a critically low level that they hadn't seen in many of their patients. I was dying...
As prayer is something I do every day and often throughout each day, I asked God to place a doctor in my life who could help to heal my body and Chris's Low Carb Denver video was placed in my daily email via Dr. Mercola. (I've told Dr. Mercola that he was our matchmaker!) I watched the video and cried as Chris's research made such sense! Better than anything I've ever heard or read in my 59 years of life! As Chris states, there are SO many versions of a healthy ancestral diet...low carb, high carb, high fat, low fat...they all can work, but there has never been a truly vegan population that survived. I also have celiac disease along with many other food allergies. My weight was down to 95 pounds and I'm 5'8" tall. I decided to email Dr. Knobbe and ask him what he eats each day along with many other questions. He responded to my email within three hours with such amazing information. I followed his instructions, and today I've gained 15 pounds, up to 110 pounds! My lab work looks so much better, although I do struggle with absorbing nutrients even from meat and organs. My digestive tract has a great deal of healing to do.
And, as God had a plan for both of us, we are now a couple and I'm as I believe SO much in Chris's research, I donate my time and finances to his foundations as the Executive Director of Public Relations and Philanthropy as well as Chris's research assistant and editor.
That is why Chris is my hero, my Knight in Shining Armor! My gift from God!!
@@suzannealexander That's an amazing story and I'm glad you are working with him now. I think what you guys are doing is important. I also had digestive disorders that went into remission after following the advice of Chris and Robert Lustig. My weight is also a lot healthier and I lost almost 10 inches of belly fat.
@@Claframb Oh, Cory,
Thank you SO much for your support and belief in our work. Yes, I'm just SO blessed to work each day with Chris, to have him in my life! I believe the whole world is so fortunate to have Chris working so very hard to find the truth and heal the world of Chronic Diseases.
I'm SO proud of you for taking charge of your health destiny and placing your body into remission!! When we eat and move as God designed us to, consuming REAL ancestral food, spending plenty of time outside, and moving about in the sun and fresh air, our body will function optimally!! Our health is our wealth! 💝
Why is the Saturated fat graph not in this presentation, you know the one that shows it as basically a flat line from 1800's till now?
Does your sugar figures include all sugars/sweeteners? Just asking, as Insulin is impacted by sweeteners too……
How could it include non-caloric sweeteners? If he's counting grams, and non-caloric sweeteners are hundreds of times a sweet as sugar, their presence in food in grams is going to add up to zero.
@@philbond8920 "omitting sweeteners from the observation isn’t helpful..." You were just told there's no technical way to include them, since they cannot be measured. Tell us exactly how you would technically include them.
"...many of them have a high glycemic load..." Name one.
@@aliendroneservices6621 artificial sweeteners spike insulin and have other downstream issues
@@muhworld2227 Tell us exactly how you would technically include them.
@@aliendroneservices6621 I wouldn't.
Compelling statistics
Does this sugar include High Fructose Corn Syrup?
All sugar. Although high fructose corn syrup does have a higher glycemic index and higher fructose content as well as the fact that it's non-binded versus natural sugar if it's more like the icing on top rather than the primary driver
High Fructose Corn Syrup is not found in any populations that continue to eat their true ancestral diet. The people living in the U.S. at the turn of the 20th Century were very healthy, eating ancestrally...processed food, oils, etc. were not in their diet. Processed food did not exist.
Thank you so much for taking the time to watch Dr. Knobbe's video and asking your question.
With gratitude,
Suzanne Alexander, M.Ed.
Executive Director of Public Relations and Philanthropy
Health and Nutrition Researcher
Ancestral Health Foundation
Cure AMD Foundation
@@suzannealexander You're contradicting Chris Knobbe.
@@aliendroneservices6621 I believe I'm stating exactly what Dr. Knobbe is saying. No population consuming a traditional ancestral diet would consume High Fructose Corn Syrup or any oils and processed food.
@@suzannealexander The question was: "Does this sugar [whose consumption is inversely correlated with rates of T2DM] include High Fructose Corn Syrup?" Chris Knobbe's conclusion is that caloric sugar, in any form, is not the cause of T2DM. Doesn't matter if it's novel or not. We can see it doesn't track with T2DM. High-fructose corn syrup is essentially the same thing as table sugar.
I am convinced. Seed oil free is the way to be. How much more evidence can be provided to make the point that seed oils are poison? This canadian from lethbridge alberta canada is going seec oil free. By the way, Lethbridge Alberta is a major centre for canola production and also french fries and tater tots and other deep fried stuff all deep fried in canola. If the ancestral revolution catches on there will be big industry changes here! Thanks for this presentation.
Does that mean avocado and olive oil are bad?
Do a little research. Those are fruit oils. Olive oil should almost always be distrusted as it is purposely cut with seed oils. You're going to find out that the only olive oils you can trust and even then that's questionable are the expensive kinds.
Jim Carrey is looking great for his age
And that's the most intelligent comment you could come up with in response to this presentation ? Alrighty, then....
They take fish, boil every omega-3 out of it and then fill it a veg. oil… facepalm
Jedi
Thank you for this research.
Dr Eric Berg DC presented data on China’s consumption of sugar laden soda precisely thirty two months ago. No data on viral infections was even on the current radar, then.
China exceeded the consumption of Mexico regarding soda consumption!
If it walks like a duck........
This guy is full of BS .. His numbers on sugar are always his and his only ...Every processed food in the world has sugar yet he says it is going down .. He has his own agenda...
What abour healthy vegetable oils, like freshly squeezed linseed oil? Extra virgin olive oil?
Also what about nuts? Fresh sunflower seeds? Pumpkin seeds? Walnuts?
No such thing
There's no good reason to ever consume any oil. Sunflower seeds and pumpkin seeds are high in the omega-6 fatty acids Chris Knobbe raised concerns about in this video. Most olive oil is adulterated with cheap seed-oils.
You can look up the oils linoleic content. Olive is not the worst, 10%. Sunflower seeds are very high in omega six. Only eat them if you are starving.
Linseed oil is the worst of them all. It's 53% alpha-linoleic acid (tripple unsaturated) and 13% linoleic acid (double unsaturated) making it so prone to oxydation that some rags with linseed oil on them in a pile will self combust. Do you really want to eat a oil that will oxydize in your body?
@@Billy97ify Most olive oil is adulterated with cheap seed-oils. Easy to find olive oil with 20% omega-6 content. Best just to avoid it all.
The Randle cycle is a factor in this, but it is interesting that omega 6 factors in so heavily.
Bradford-Hill is a protocol for expert opinion and only that. It is not the word of God or science.
I highly respect your technical argument and I vehemently agree with your conclusions. However, by selecting the end point of your variable factor, such as obesity or diabetes or breast cancers, this end point which you arbitrarily set at the end point of "vegetable oil consumption" causes an unfair manipulation of the data. A better plot would have been setting the illness rate full scale at 0% to 100% rather than your 0% to 15% which appears to show "a perfect agreement or match" with this correlated data, which you know does not prove a causal proof. This "perfect SLOPE match" in my opinion is needlessly deceiving. Despite this, I agree with your conclusions. My greatest difficulties are: a.) What is the gestation rate for diabetes to appear (a lag), b.) Can sugar consumption take twenty years of "fattening" before symptoms are revealed, and c.) What's the gestation period for "vegetable oils", as it cannot be instantaneous as your plots imply, d.) Pasta etc. are unaccounted for & thus, missing, since they're one broken bond away from becoming sugar (glucose minus fructose). Again Chris, I wholeheartedly agree with you but your presentation has these 4 glaring holes in your logical argument. Keep up the great work!
Obviously it's not the percentage of carbs in the diet, it's the overconsumption of energy of all types. Hyperpaltable food combined with no "turn off" switch, and lack of exercise.
Great point.
ray peat is rolling in his grave
Its the carbs and will always be the carbs. Just because they were good before doesn't mean they are good now. Carb addiction has caught up to people and now seeing the effects of it. There is no satiety when it comes to carbs because they are too low in nutrients. Our bodies thrive on protein and saturated fats. Carbs are not essential.
I lost plenty of weight on a WFPB diet. I did not go hungry.
Now try and actually watch the video before commenting any further
There's a tribe where their diet consists 94% carbs and are perfectly healthy lol
All that plus stress is a big one. Increases cortisol which increases glucose. So try to go low contact with narcissists and rude people as and read the Bible.
Are those stats making logical sense? If I start eating 200g of pure sugar powder today, I am not going to become very fat in a month, but in the 10 years I am going to be fat as hell.
Look into the Randle Cycle. Carbohydrates are not necessarily fattening if you eat very low fat and are energy deficient.
You're going to get fat in 10 years by increasing your metabolism? How does that work?
Yes. The time lag bothered me too.suppose it’s twenty years. The correlation curves would need adjusted to. Count for that.
He addressed this logic early in the video when he said there would have been a proportion of the population in the late 1800s that consumed a lot more sugar, yet obesity and diabetes were still virtually unheard. Not all people in the late 1800s consumed the mean average amount of sugar, we must assume that let's say 10% of the population consumed quite high amounts.
Same in the 1930s when sugar consumption was high. There must've been people who consumed very high amounts of sugar yet obesity and diabetes very low (although diabetes had increased significantly since the late 1800s but still rare)
@@gailthornbury291How about the people between 1860-1960 lol there's a lot of generations within that time period that consumed lots of sugar people of all ages. Almost none of them were fat and diabetic. That's 100 years and people of all ages ate sugar, whether you were 60 in 1935 or 15 you ate sugar.
Now we are talking about high rates of obesity in children today, CHILDREN.
Sugar industry sponsored this talk. Thanks
Cool story bro. More like the mainstream is only villainizing sugar and ignoring the elephant in the room.
Sorry that the data doesn't show the correlation that supports your confirmation bias. This guy didn't want to believe this either when he first started researching this
unconvincing
Yeah unconvincing that the only major change in people's diet is vegetable oils and it just so happens to be the only change that correlates with chronic illness. You know, the only major change in people's diets, not sugar, no processed wheat, not carbs etc..
That's really unconvincing 😂
Chris Knobbe misses the difference between powdered and solid carbs. A critical failure in his analysis. See Gabor Erdosi for info on how processing changes hormonal reaction.
4:07 he states what hes hypothesis is.
@@nocebo_ He ignores the difference between powdered and solid carbs to make his argument. Once you understand the difference you'll understand why he's wrong.
You have to understand his hypothesis, it's @ 4:07 and part of it is: "Non-processed carbohydrates play NO ROLE in obesity..."
@@virgilash watch the video and you will see what I mean. His argument relies on ignoring dietary change from carbs like whole rice to powdered sugar and flour. Says "carb percentage went down" and stuff like that. Very nonsensical when you realize powdered carbs are different.
Obesity is caused by carbs. This has been known for thousands of years. What do they feed cattle to fatten them? Carbs. Not vegetable oil.
Also google for fat zoo animals eating fruit. Not vegetable oil.
Basically sugar and carbs are inherently fattening. Refining and powdering or liquefying makes them more potent. Doesn't change the nature of the molecules.
@@johngosnell3847 Chris Knobbe said "white rice", not "whole rice". In other words, basically the same thing as white flour.
This is misleading. Show me a study, eliminate oil only and just feed a person with carbs and sugar, so on your hypothesis people shouldn’t be obese nor become diabetic.
Like in the 1930s? When people were thin and consumed loads of sugar and didn't have diabetes or obesity? lol
It's been done. Dr. Walter Kempner. 1939.
@@pookiecatblue This has been shown in almost all the population that Knobbe highlights in his presentation except for China which are not big consumer of sugar
My god, the massive irony of Phil Sokolof... Probably single handedly caused so much suffering just because of his idiocy.
waat?
I think we can eat anything as long as we don't overeat anything and exceed what our body can comfortably handle.
Epidemiological studies are the lowest of all studies to base any conclusion.
I seriously question your data on sugar consumption. It doesn't take a mental giant to know consumption is up since the 60s. The only thing down is saturated fat, since the 50s, due to steady vilification by Big Food and Big Pharma. Also, your info on Okinawan diet is seriously outdate. I have been in and out of Okinawa since early 1970s, back when the only American fast food chain there was A&W Root Beer, and there were only 2 of them. Now, and for the last 20+ years, American fast food, and the SAD has been growing in popularity, and now it's as prevalent there as it is in USA. About 75 percent of the population now eats that garbage, and it shows in their obesity, diabetes, and metabolic syndrome rates. Same in mainland Japan. My Okinawan family there, once lean and healthy 25 years ago, is now struggling with those same issues, and it DOES involve massive increases in sugar consumption.
Sugar consumption is down since 2004 in america,
it increased significantly between 1960s and peaked in the early 2000a and started declining.
This is indisputable lol
Currently sugar intake is about similar to 1970
Also even if I grant that sugar data is unreliable for america (it's objectively reliable) , in China they don't consume much sugar yet are starting to have diabetes and overweight problems too. Anyway you look at it, there's not much correlation between sugar and chronic illness.
There's no massive increase in sugar consumption in any of the major world countries right now except some isolated populations probably and that tribe consumed a lot of sugar before the vegetable oils hit the market and were fit lol
I think he may need a lesson in what the term lockstep actually means because he keeps saying it when the charts clearly tell a different story about the correlation of vegetable oils and the "related" issues.
It has to be something other than VOs because the other countries have deeply contradictory relationships despite significant upticks in obesity.
Ever thought ultra processed food intake?
Ever thought it might be all the toxins in the food supply and medical industrial complex ingested and injected into people?
VOs are an issue, but the VOs today are nothing like the VOs of earlier times.
Sugar as well has undergone radical changes in forms and methods of intake.
To overlook so much is a critical flaw in this concept of blaming VOs and his presentation.
To be honest I see him gaslighting the audience repeatedly.
Too bad.
Point to a specific "contradictory relationship" please.
Ultra processed feeds are really mostly just processed wheat or grains, sugar and seed oils lol which were included as the definition for processed foods in his presentations
VOs of the old times were actually worse than today's, they were high trans fats
And by the way, how are the vegetable oils made different today, It's the same refining process with hexane, bleach etc.. they've been using for idk decades
Most added sugars are glucose/fructose with varying levels of fructose content like HFCS which has higher fructose which I believer is worse and probably leads to more obesity in my opinion but the problem is that HFCS is also on the decline in the US and also other countries don't use HFCS much yet have the same obesity prolems