Fallen Empire: The Failed Rebuild of the New York Yankees…
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- Опубликовано: 21 окт 2024
- In this video I discuss the NY Yankees and their disastrous 2023 season. I talk about poor decisions the front office has made this past decade that has the Yankees on pace for their worst season since 1992…
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How would you fix the Yankees?
No need to. Have you seen the TVs in centerfield so fans who are at the game, in the stadium can watch what is happening? LMAO! Years of misery ahead - I'm all for it!
Even though I would fire Cashman and Boone, it would still not be enough. Other players on this team would be cut all together (Stanton, Donaldson, Kahnle to name a couple).
@@billmcg1676mad because you aren’t as big as the Yankees
Fire cashman fire Boone and bring up some of the players like Jason Dominguez
blow it all up
One of my favorite stats is the $142.6 million allocated to Rizzo, Stanton, Rodon, LeMaheu and Donaldson have a cumulative.5 WAR, effectively costing the Yankees $285 million/win.
Such a beautiful sight
Clear cap space Juan Soto
Rodon literally just started, and 3 of the other 4 have lost half that time to injury...pretty cherry picked stat considering they all have years left on the deal except jd
@@ghostofmoredishesmorebitch1507 Rodon’s 1-4 with a 6.27 era, of the other guys on that list none have been productive even when healthy. I purposefully omitted Judge despite missing over half the season because at least he’s been productive when in uniform. No cherry picking going on the Yankees front office simply pissed away $142 million on underperforming vets with durability issues.
Unless you believe Rizzo Stanton and DJ are trending upwards and Rodon will magically heal and never miss another start in a Yankee uniform.
@@chicagodude8888 Rizzo was off to his best start ever before the concussion, Stanton pre leg injury was doing exactly what he always does ~120 games on pace for 30 hrs and clutch in playoffs and both of them have been worth the sign/trade. Rodon has literally played 1/3 a szn in the first year of his deal so including him is literally cherry picked mongloid logic bc he could go out and win 4 straight cy young's with the time left on his deal
They should move to Oakland. I hear there's a stadium that just went vacant.
My man if they can’t hit in Yankee stadium, do you think they’ll be able to hit in the coliseum?
Why? What would that accomplish?
Is this a joke
I got the joke, bruh. Don't worry.
@@ICB-mj3xg no I'm 100% serious like everything you read on the internet. In fact, you should get yourself checked out if you are even questioning if you read something on the internet and for one moment thought it might not be 100% accurate.
Yankees "Evil Empire" has fallen like the Roman Empire. Complacency did this team in. Not in their spending, just through how they develop players. It isnt the late 90s anymore. A team full of sluggers isnt as good as a balanced offense.
Which one of those guys in the late 90’s actually hit 40+ homers? It wasn’t a team full of sluggers but rather hitters that knew what they were good at! Hitting not slugging.
@@VILEPAINTS I forgot to mention that they are building this team like they still think its 2009 when they went with an all power approach.
The slugging is fine, the complete lack of left-handed bats has killed them
The Dotcom Era Dynasty ended for the Pinstripes in 2009. Its why they haven't been back to the World Series since then.
And NO, they were NOT close in 2017. The Astros were a Decades long Basement Dweller Club that all of the sudden BROKE through and won the the Crown by beating the Largest Most Expensive Clubs in the MLB and that pissed off folks, so they fabricated this phony ass Cheating scandal to force Free Trades while the Hypocritical Yankees covered up their OWN Sign Stealing and Corruption and then picked up 2017 Astro CY Young Starter Winner Garrett Cole.
They weren't good enough in 2019. Either.
As for 2022, EMBARASSING. This where the Yankees Fanbase started to REALLY piss off other MLB Fans like me. They had the audacity to call that 6/25/23 No Hitter a Fluke, Boast that since they were #1 in the AL East that they were BETTER than every team though Houston was 8-2 against them, Flaunt that pathetic ass Easy Schedule Manfred gave them. Dance around during the ALCS like it was going to be an easy series, only to be utterly DESTROYED by the Astros in a 1-2-3 touch and go Sweep and then come up with excuse after excuse.
I hope the Yankees go through ANOTHER Decade of NO World Series. They deserve everything they're getting right now. I'm SO happy as a SF Giants fan that the Pinheads didn't make the World Series the entire 2010s. May 2020s be the SAME. ruclips.net/video/cNdXaLyhjVI/видео.html 5:00.
bros salty 💀 what are you a red sox fan? 😂😂
For someone who(I'm assuming) is not a Yankees fan, you did a great job covering what we've all been saying. There are some things that you didn't cover when it comes to the awful construction though:
1. The lineups they create are overwhelmingly right handed, which is ridiculous for a team that plays in that ballpark 81 times a year. Even someone like Didi Gregorius hit 25 home runs in a season because the ballpark was made for lefties.
2. The team is still too old. Watching Rizzo, Stanton, LeMahieu, and (especially)Donaldson this year has been like getting kicked in the balls every night. All their money outside of Judge and Cole is going to towards guys who are way past their prime, which is how they're able to be under .500 while somehow still maintaining an almost $300M payroll.
3. They never play the kids when they should. For years this team has been calling up prospects way too late. That may be a product of their abysmal scouting, but Austin Wells was drafted as a 19 year old, is now 23 and just got called up to AAA. They also refused to call up Peraza last year when everyone was calling for IKF's head.
But the worst part about this is that Brian Cashman will settle for bargain bin players like Jake Bauers and Billy McKinney because he thinks that he's so smart that he doesn't need to get Bryce Harper or Corey Seager or literally any other all star level player with a lefty swing for Yankee Stadium, only for those said players to be stuck in their positions and blocking the young guys in the minors. The worst case of this is Josh Donaldson(not bargain bin obviously but it follows the same line of logic), a trade which made no sense from the second it was announced. Peraza was tearing it up in AAA only for .150 Donaldson to block him for months; it took a season ending injury to finally bring Peraza up.
And there's no hope it'll get any better. Obviously the Cashman extension is the main reason, but it's not just him; the organization is full of executives and directors that have been there for almost 20 years. There needs to be change, and the only way that happens is if Hal gets off his sorry ass and fires Brian Cashman, who's basically his new father at this point.
I could go on about the arrogance, the awful pitching scouting, them blaming the fucking roof last year, but this comment is already an essay lmao
I agree with everything except the pitching part, we’ve been really good at identifying quality relievers and for the most part starting pitching has not been an issue for us in recent years, the offensive philosophy and development is abysmal though, we have to hope Dominguez and Jones are something special when they arrive in the show
Corey Seager would be a HOF'er if he called Yankee Stadium home for years... that is if he could stay healthy.
Their coaching, medical and player development staffs have been atrocious also and that's all on Cashman
@@seanc7342 I don’t think that’s fair to put all of that on one guy, do you really think Cashman is interviewing all of the trainers and minor league coaches who are part of the organization? Come on now.
@@ianrotheroe2540 Uhhh yes he does because he literally hires them that's the job of the GM even if he's delegating that it's still on him
The Yankees didn't sign or develop Gleyber Torres so he can't be included. He played in the Cubs system for close to 300 games compared to roughly 75 games in the Yankees system.
Still very annoyed that we traded him.
@@keijif1267without that trade we wouldn't have gotten the chip
@@karma_v2977 Chip who?
@@kevinmiller6380 Chip Skylark obviously
@@ryukami404 His shiny teeth and all!
Stanton was the killer. The opportunity cost of taking Stanton crippled the Yanks chances of building a strong team around Judge. They had to forgo several great free agents(such as Brice Harper) in the years after they took Stanton.
As an O's fan, I cannot deny my sheer enjoyment watching the Yanks be in the basement, while we sit atop. Seeing the parody of the last 5 years, and the division outside Tampa being flipped on its head.
To fix em, really comes down to drafting well this year with a pick that will prob be in the top 15ish, and building up young talent. Granted paying out the ass for Ohatani would work, but he doenst want to leave the west coast, and most likely will be a Dodger next year.
You have no room to talk 😂😂
As soon as you said Bob Watson, I pumped my fist in the air. He built that team that won '96 and kept that winning way going till 2001.
not just bob but gene michale
@@VMan29397YES!
It's amazing how talent can be completely wasted when placed in the wrong hands. By the end of 2017, the Yankees future looked brighter than ever. A young, talented core that came within 1 game of the world series. Now, the Yankees seem so ancient and out of the loop. I hope they miss the postseason this year because that's the only way their arrogant ownership will actually do something.
The yankees arent even close to the picture
They’re for sure missing the postseason. They’re gonna finish below 500
The pitching is what did them in back then..by the time they fixed it the hitters aged
They should try rampant cheating for over a decade again
They would have won it all in 2017 if it weren't for the fact that Cashman passed on Justin Verlander because of the luxury tax, and slave to the BS that is Sabermetrics, thought he could find a bargain basement ace in Sonny Gray (in keeping with his BS fascination for thinking he can get ace pitching by looking at hidden sabermetrics) 2017 was the year they should have done it and the flushed it away (aided by Houston cheating as well).
Whenever a team throws cash at star players only to severely underperform puts a smile on my face
Why? Because the owners actually care about winning rather than pocketing all the revenue from fans and not putting it back in the product?
You sound like a very bitter Pirates/ Royals/ A’s fan. Here’s some advice: dump whatever low paying team you’re rooting for. Their owner is pocketing all the money and all your getting is misery.
problem is they throw money at the wrong stars
The New York Yankees should relocate to East Rutherford, New Jersey as the “New Jersey Yankees” along with USFL New Jersey Generals and NFL New Jersey Giants
You should’ve mentioned the lack of left handed batters since 2018….that alone is inexcusable and a fireable offense. Playing in stadium meant for lefties and not taking advantage of that is just mind boggling to me
I don't know why people make such a big deal about lefty hitters when Yankee stadium also has a baby porch in left.
@@kermitfrog593no only down the line. It has one of the deepest left centers and center field in all of baseball and is extremely hard to hit homers to that part of the park. They pretty much have to be towering shots
You forgot about the Braves. They developed and signed their young players long term.
Thats why they are the 1 seed
The Braves are the team the Yankees should learn from
That's why they're the Mets' main villain now.
Agreed. Think he focused on AL teams to highlight how they haven't made the WS in so long.
Sun Trust became Truist Park
As a Sox fan, this content makes me happy 😁 There are certainly huge issues with Boston's front office; they have several bad contracts and an exec in Chaim Bloom who has made numerous questionable decisions, but I'm glad to see this about the Yankees and forget about my team's problems for a bit 😁
Boston is a hellhole city and racist stop supporting them cracker
Stanton has to be the worst Yankees trade this century. He's had a couple of good playoff games, but that's about it.
They aren't paying for him to win them games. They paid him so he might wear a NY cap in the hall if he gets in. They also knew he was a big name, so he brought some of his fans over to watch some Yankee games.
Winning games would just be a bonus for them, but this strategy helps them build their brand awareness as big as it is. Spend a lot of money to make a lot of money.
Right handed bat lol who would have thought
He’s been the only player who has show up up in October since he got here.
He's hit 30+ homers a year and carried them in playoffs for a measly 25m a year...FAR from a bad trade
He’s had a couple good years and is a beast in the playoffs. Future’s not looking too bright for him right now though
Cashman has: broken Joba with the "Joba Rules", put a righty-dominant lineup in a lefty-paradise ballpark, traded for or sign guys who are always injured, refused to bring the kids sooner... He thinks he's the smartest guy in all of MLB and can't put a winning team on the field. His worst offense that he never admita a mistake, he prefers to break a 39 year old winning record than admit the team was flawed by the deadline. Jordan Montgomery is pitching pretty well ever since he left, I wonder why...
Maybe I'm picking nits, but Girardi wasn't fired. His contract expired and the Yankees front office chose not to retain him again. Being fired implies he was canned in the middle of the season or in the off season with time still on his contract.
Glad I'm not crazy, I didn't remember Girardi being fired at all.
Yeah same here honestly, i mostly thought it was mutually parting ways and girardi wanted to spend time with his family.
It wasn't a "firing" but they blindsided Girardi by not bringing him back
Yeah but doesn't being blindsided imply he had no idea he wouldn't be retained? He must have had some inkling he wouldn't be back.@@seanc7342
Being told "we're not renewing your contract" is the SAME THING as getting fired. That's what happened to Buck Showalter as well and everyone knew that was a firing. It's lame to characterize it any other way. With hindsight, Girardi should have stayed and Cashman should have been canned for getting Sonny Gray instead of Justin Verlander.
This may be only one example, but it's close to my heart, and symbolic of the Yankees nowadays.
I used to work at the concession stands for the Staten Island Yankees the season before they folded. When I was done with work, I was free to watch the rest of the game as desired. One of the players that stuck out to me was an infielder by the name of Ezequiel Duran, and by my judgement, was their best hitter. A couple of years pass, and I see a player of the same name playing well for the Texas Rangers this season. So at some point, the Yankees traded him. For whom, you may ask? Joey freaking Gallo. A rental. Duran's versatility in the infield is something the Yankees would have found mighty handy this season considering all of the injuries they've had, as well as a solid, young bat. Again, though, this is just one of many examples of how the Bombers are currently unable to identify quality prospects in their own system. Also, support your minor league baseball teams. You never know when they'll be gone.
The Yankees went all-in on building a team full of gigantic power guys that are slow. The game changed this year. Speed is valuable once again. It's the teams with younger stars that are succeeding now.
The New York Yankees should relocate to East Rutherford, New Jersey as the “New Jersey Yankees” along with USFL New Jersey Generals and NFL New Jersey Giants
The New York Yankees should relocate to East Rutherford, New Jersey as the “New Jersey Yankees” along with USFL New Jersey Generals and NFL New Jersey Giants
The Yankees need to tip their hats and be thankful for 31 straight seasons above .500. I agree with your video. It is time for a rebuild, but they shouldn't head-hunt. They were in the playoffs regularly, and if they tore it down then, they would get blasted. People would say how they were perennial contenders and were probably a few players away.
They should try rampant cheating again. Steroids keep you healthy. Start pumping half their team with roids again. Blatantly stealing signs isn’t enough.
The New York Yankees should relocate to East Rutherford, New Jersey as the “New Jersey Yankees” along with USFL New Jersey Generals and NFL New Jersey Giants
Nothing brings me more joy than seeing the Spankees and their fans suffer.
As a Cubs fan, I have no problem with the Yankees having lousy seasons. Time to share the pain a little bit!
Time for the comeuppance of Rizzo!
And thanks for the loan on Chapman, btw!
The New York Yankees should relocate to East Rutherford, New Jersey as the “New Jersey Yankees” along with USFL New Jersey Generals and NFL New Jersey Giants
Now ironically the Yankee's last WS win also happened to be the first year in New Yankee's stadium and also the last year that the old one remained standing maybe this period of suck is the baseball gods cursing the Yankees. Now intresting thing so Boone has not only lost to the Astros and Red Socks once in the post season he has lost to both of them twice.
And Boone Himself Actually Blasted A Walk Off Home Run In 2003
Now they’re in the World Series 🔥
I think the injuries to Judge and Rizzo (simultaneously) are a significant contributing factor to this season's results. And even Stanton isn't able to run fast in his current condition. They built up their team as a power-heavy team, and when all their power guys are injured, that's going to be hard. And like other people have said, their division is incredibly competitive compared to, for example, the AL central.
You are rationalising their ineptitude.
They should try rampant cheating again. So many less injuries when half of their roster was on steroids. Stealing signs isn’t nearly enough. They need more.
Older players are more liable to injury and slowing down. The significant contributing factor to the Yanks' struggle is age. They don't have the patience to develop young players, bring them up and let them fail at the major league level. It's always 'win now,' and they're always locking up veterans. And you wonder why guys go down with injury.
Relying on Aaron judge and Aaron judge alone is not enough anymore.
It’s baseball not the nba
@JamesAvila-xu7ds Basketball is a team sport. No great basketball player has won a championship by themselves.
@@mastermace7770 of course not if you want individual greatness gotta do golf and boxing type of things
Cashman's early days he was really just a high paid gopher. Steinbrenner gave his one job, go out and find the best talent and pay them whatever they want to join the team. That's an easy gig now he has to run the team and deal with negotiations and that takes a skillset I don't think he possesses. He tends to overpay people who can no longer contribute and trade for guys late in their careers who can't help for long or at all while almost completely ignoring his pitching staff. He also likes to use Triple A as an extended bench rather than promote good players they draft. He's definitely not entirely to blame. Boone doesn't seem to have a plan and changes things up so often it's tough to get any real continuity. To be fair injuries force this a lot but young talent never seem to get a chance with him. They get 10-20 games to prove they are an all-star or they are deep sixed on the bench or send back down to the minors. They did really well when half the team was hurt a few seasons ago and they brought up all those young guys and he managed them like a small ball team and they were amazing to watch. To fix this team they need to commit to a vision rather than trying to play in both lanes at the same time. Commit to the youth and develop them at the big league level before you waste Judge's and Cole's good years completely.
In other words - REBUILD. I'm surprised at how terrified Yank fans are of that word. You are going to have to develop young talent, bring them up, and let them play - for years - as they make mistakes and learn the ropes. This means down years. They happen. Everyone deals with them. Yanks did well to dance around it for thirty years but reality caught up.
@@kermitfrog593everyone in the front office needs to go first. Then they can start a rebuild.
@@John-fy1zy True. Time for someone not named Steinbrenner to run the Yanks. Mix it up.
The Yankees are directly responsible for the only time I ever rooted my heart out for the Diamondbacks. That was an amazing World Series.
Dodgers or Giants fan I’m guessing?
Great video my dude. As a lifelong Orioles fan, this season has been a dream. Even if the O’s don’t go all the way this year, the fact they are at the top of the division this late in the season, and with the Yanks being in the bottom by a lot, it’s just so sweet. No hate to true Yankees fans, but it’s the Orioles’s time now.
How do you not hate true Yankees fans. Remember Jeffrey Maier day.
I just watched Urinating Tree's video on this very topic! Two very different tones but two equally great videos 😁⚾
Very well said!! Excellent recap of the disastrous season this has been thus far! And for anyone who says “they are still in it”, please note the following.
Yes, mathematically they could win 90 games and “maybe” make the playoffs but need to go 27-4 to accomplish that.
After all, in 1995, they went on a 26-7 run to win rye first wild card spot. HOWEVER, that team had Bernie Williams, Paul O’Neill, Wade Boggs, Mike Stanley, and even Donnie Baseball (in his last year). They also had Cone, Pettite, Kamenicki and decent closer in John Wettland.
I have absolutely no faith in this team that they could even come close to that type of run.
In short - they NEVER should have fired Joe Girardi, NEVER should have signed Stanton and need smarter front office staff to develop new talent.
No depth.
Simple.
They traded all their top prospects and signed massive contracts .
One broken toe and two wrist injuries later , here they are .
Their coaching, medical and player development staffs have been atrocious also and that's all on Cashman
I love your channel. This is a great video. But can you try to make a video on the downfall of the Kansas City Royals after winning the 2015 World Series? That’s been one of a collapse and I’d love to learn about it
Does that really need a video? They are a small market team that does't have the capital to hold onto expensive talent. Theres half your video.
I would fire Cashman, have a complete fire sale, double the budget for player development/scouting to poach the best in league, and publically state the rebuild to the fan base.
The New York Yankees should relocate to East Rutherford, New Jersey as the “New Jersey Yankees” along with USFL New Jersey Generals and NFL New Jersey Giants
Great video! The Yanks admin should watch this one.
They've heard it a million times and think its hogwash. Let them.
Idk man I think you are giving George alot more credit then he deserves. Those 90s teams won in spite of him, when he got banned from baseball allowing the franchise to develop home grown talent. Theres been numerous reports that he would have traded Posada.
George was alot like Cashman then you care to admit, he always went after stars whether it was Arod or Reggie Jackson
Nothing went wrong. You can't expect to always be at the top in baseball. Signing free agents will not solve all issues.
They were the best team in baseball for half of 2022, things went wrong
Speaking for all other fans - leave them alone, things are being run just fine
Awesome analysis. I see the downfall as much earlier, the 2004 ALCS. Things really haven't been the same since then. It feels like when the Red Sox broke their curse, they broke the spell the Yanks had on baseball.
2009, the Yankees came through. The Core Four at least had one last moment of glory post-2004 thankfully.
Thank you for posting 👍 👍
Late 2010s-Early 2020s Yankees: reduced from the most feared name in baseball to the playoff bitch of the Astros. It really is a sight to behold.
As a Red Sox fan I love this
Not to forget your a Patriots fan too
It's wild their young prospects/farm system ranks like 28th. smh Team is wholly dependent on acquiring talent from other teams with very little of their own minor leaguers contributing.
The Evil Empire has crumbled
The New York Yankees should relocate to East Rutherford, New Jersey as the “New Jersey Yankees” along with USFL New Jersey Generals and NFL New Jersey Giants
This what happens when you rip down "The house that Ruth built". Curse of the Bambino is alive and well. 2009 - good. I root for my team and any team playing the Yankees!
Go Yankees 🖕😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@cwebed-stuy9951 LOL. LMAO even.
It was reversed
The Red Sox had it untill 2004
Since than the Yanks have it and it keeps getting worse
@@jonathanfrimerman8855 RedSox last WS title before curse 1918, RedSox Last won WS title 2018. So interesting how it’s 100 years apart. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂
@@cwebed-stuy9951 1918 to 2004 that’s not a hundred years apart
You skipped over the true architects of the Yankee dynasty and that is Gene Michael and Bob watson. When George was suspended from the mlb they built the team through prospects
The New York Yankees should relocate to East Rutherford, New Jersey as the “New Jersey Yankees” along with USFL New Jersey Generals and NFL New Jersey Giants
Regarding Cashman and the early years. I can give him credit for the 2000 Championship only to the extent that he wisely ignored Steinbrenner's preference for getting Sammy Sosa and instead got David Justice for Ricky Ledee. There's no question that acquisition was the key to the Yankees ability to coax out a division title that then carried them through to their third straight title. He also took advantage of the fact that after 2008, the contracts of Giambi, Mussina and the bust that was Carl Pavano were coming off the books and that gave him the latitude to sign both Sabathia and Teixeira (if Mussina doesn't retire, he doesn't sign one of those two. He still would have likely signed A.J. Burnett) who gave the Yankees a much needed title in 2009. But apart from that, his record is overall a joke given his hanging around long after the last title. He's taken advantage of the fact that Hal Steinbrenner is a milquetoast who is deathly afraid of ever being likened to his father and that's why he is incapable of uttering the words, "You're fired" to Cashman. And so on Cashman goes with his total incompetence when it comes to assessing pitching talent and loading up the team with one dimensional injury prone players. Until he is gone, the Yankees will never know championship glory again.
now I get the billy Martin joke from Seinfeld
they have never truly rebuilt, which is a terrible thing imo because these guys never went through a stretch of true pain en route to drafting/signing the future
I’m also an orioles fan so yeah fuck the yankees they deserve nothing good
You nailed it. But dont expect Yank fans to listen, they think rebuilding is something that applies to every team but theirs.
@@kermitfrog593 BS. We endured it in the early 90s when Stick Michael benefited from George's suspension and took the time to develop Bernie Williams, draft Jeter and realize the talents that were there in Rivera, Posada, Pettitte etc.
@@epaddon Since the three-peat and new stadium, Yanks don't rebuild.
Biggest thing for me is the communications. Boone was specifically brought on to be the mediator between the front office and everyone else. But time and time again it feels like fans are talked down to and kept in the dark while the “real men” go run the team. And every time someone asks them a specific question, the answer is the vague double-speak of a politician
theyre trying to replicate that youth movement again with Pereira and Peraza but you can't guarantee each of these guys is a guarantee. It's the fact that Cashman got lucky plugging holes with guys like Gio Urshella and Luke Voit that actually panned out for a period so bringing guys like IKF Donaldson Bader and Bauers "shouldve done the same". Theres been abysmal pitching acquisitions that now cripple the team, Rodon is worrisome, Montas hasn't pitched at all this year and was horrible last year, they just keep missing and missing hard.
The biggest problem is the title of a great management book.
,' We've always done it that way"
I'm an Orioles fan.
No, I won't be rude.
I will state that I did know the Yankees didn't have much in their system from 2000 onwards.
They were winning.
That's all that matters.
I believe the Yankees need to drop the win-now attitude.
Simply buying a lineup has been good for them.
However, not having the pieces in the minors to replace the regulars is problematic.
Judge is a force to be reckoned.
A lot of Orioles fans wonder why pitch to him later in a tight game and 1b open.
I did believe that Stanton provides the 1-2 punch with Judge in the batting order.
The problem is that Stanton has been injured prone since arriving in New York.
I don't know if he has played one full season.
I won't guess on how long they will go with Cashman and Boone.
I do firmly believe after those 2 are gone the Yankees may implement a metrics approach for their minor league system.
Yes, they will need to draft better too.
I'm not talking a player here or a player there.
Look what the Orioles have done in the 5 years in Elias's tenure.
The Yankees must follow Elias's example before falling off into the abyss.
Again with the Orioles, I watched and attended games in the 14 years of losing.
A few good years only to follow up with another losing streak.
So, Yankees management: get with the program!
Don't drag the organization and fans into a decades long "rebuild."
I quoted rebuild because the losing in Baltimore was called that by the ownership, which had no end in sight.
I’m a Orioles fan too, and The New York Yankees should relocate to East Rutherford, New Jersey as the “New Jersey Yankees” along with USFL New Jersey Generals and NFL New Jersey Giants
You know how hot the Rays were earlier this year? And how hot the Braves have been? Well, it's hard to remember, but there was a time a little more than a year ago that the Yankees were hotter than both of those teams have ever been this year. There was a moment where the Yankees were keeping pace with the 2001 Mariners, through about 85 games or so. It's crazy how a team can fall so far from grace, but everything seemed to be going right for them at the time. They were getting tons of XBH, working pitchers so hard in the first few innings of each game that they'd be gassed by the 4th, and their pitching was lights out, they didn't give up many baserunners and when they did, it seemed like they stranded them.
They just plummeted back to earth, their big XBH guys are striking out more and hitting doubles and home runs less frequently, and the starting pitching hasn't been as big a strength as they thought it would be.
In the era of John fisher’s & Bob Castellini’s I will say I am grateful that Hal isn’t cheap & he does stay out of the way & Cashman does become a beast during the trade deadline. That being said you’re points make alot of sense maybe he needs to get fired
How many power lefty Batts do you have it's a joke
@@ethanniedorowski116 yeah I’d like to see improvements
As a Rays fan I'm ecstatic with the current state of the yanks
Rays 0 World Series titles…. 😂😂
@@cwebed-stuy9951 yeah! tell em.
@@cwebed-stuy9951Yankees haven’t even been to the world series in over a decade
All the success the Rays have had the past few years and what has it amounted to? Zero WS titles and multiple first round exits. Just like the Yankees. All that bragging about their 10 dollar pay roll and empty stadium.
@@jamesdime6865 they have a penant
I laughed real hard when they signed Donaldson
IKR!! Why would you trade Sanchez and Urshela for Donaldson and IKF??? SMH!! 🤦♂️🤦♂️👎👎
Fire Cashman
What went wrong??????????? How about handing out bushel baskets full of cash, without consequences built into contracts in case performance doesn't meet expectations. (Even if it's due to "injuries", which my observation tells me is really excuses to not play, being milked by players.)
I worked 30 years for an international corporation, where "pay for performance" was a foundation of the payroll system.
In pro sports, performance and paychecks are disconnected. That must change.
Our player development is God awful. Cashman needs to go asap. Imo whole front office needs to go the entire franchise needs to be rebuilt not just the players.
I’m a yankee fan but not a die hard I just like baseball but have always rooted for the Yankees. To me they should allow last names and beards and I swear we will start to do better. We need to rebuild and be a new team all around and also we should have made way better trades
Remember the traditionally successful line-ups that played to the strengths of Yankee Stadium.1.Create a positive balance in hitting, pitching and base-running: two lefty hitters or switch-hitters who hit for average, two left pitchers who can give you serious innings, trade or DFA unfocused or completely unproductive players. 2 Make sensible line-up decisions and stop ridiculous pitching changes and non-changes. 3. Stop overpaying for no-talent players. Some examples: 1. Getting Cody Bellinger, maybe also Bryan Reynolds, for outfield, getting Luis Arraez for 1B, 2B or DH. A lefty catcher who hits his weight, like Yogi Berra, would be a blessing. Instead of throwing away Jordan Montgomery, Yankees need to get a few lefty pitchers. 2. Put a few fast contact hitters at the top of your line-up and let them get on, do hit-and-run and steal a few bases. 3. Yankees played too many games with Joey Gallo and Aaron Hicks and Josh Donaldson because Cashman only thought about justifying his cash outlays. Clearly you are right that Cashman and Boone (and maybe Hal Steinbrenner himself) need to go. We could use a bit more of the winning attitude of George Steinbrenner.
Fire Hal
The Trashtros didn't "develop a core" they developed a way to CHEAT. You kidding me bro?? 😂
American sports dynasties ranked imo
1.) New England Patriots Brady Belichick run
2.) 1990s Yankees
3.) Jordan's Bulls
4.) 30s 40s and 50s Yankees. Sorry just find the 90s one more impressive but respect this one.
5.) Golden State Warriors. Theye exposed LeFlop, that alone puts them on this list.
And to top it all off, even in their down years they are still among the teams with the highest payroll.
What went wrong you ask?.....spending big bucks doesn't always a contender make....Now they go to the farm. Lesson learned? I doubt it.
You hit the biggest nail on the head with Cashman. The biggest problem is he has ZERO track record of being able to successfully draft and develop quality position players. So the solution is simple. Fire him and bring someone who will be able to do that and rebuild this team properly.
To call whatever the Stanks did a rebuild is a bit hyperbolic at this point. Standard rebuild involves tearing everything down, they did the opposite; they built an extra story out of cardboard on shoddy foundation. They need 2-3 years of at or below .500 ball, but they’re too afraid of the blowback. At this point, they’re not a special organization and probably won’t be with the current front office/ownership. Can’t say it makes me sad, yes I am a hater.
exactly.
I remember when you had 100 subscribers 🎉
They stopped paying for consistency and started paying for players who hit 1-2 50hr seasons.
The Yankees never let any of their draft picks develop. Any time z big name is on the trading block, the Yankees swoop in and trade away their prospects. But the prospects that do get dealt to other teams become busts, which proves the bad drafting theory is true. When they won in the 90s they did it by acquiring role players just like the Red Sox did when they won their 4 World Series. When the Red Sox acquired Adrian Gonzalez and Carl Crawford the Boston Herald had a front page headline showing a collage of Gonzalez, Crawford, Josh Beckett and David Ortiz said "The Greatest Team Ever!" and they missed the playoffs.
I believe you are also right about George Steinbrenner having called the shots. During the off season going into 2003, Steinbrenner wanted Jason Giambi because he won tne AL MVP with the As, and Brian Cashman wanted a free agent from the Minnesota Twine named David Ortiz and we all know how that went.
The New York Yankees should relocate to East Rutherford, New Jersey as the “New Jersey Yankees” along with USFL New Jersey Generals and NFL New Jersey Giants
Id trade any veteran I could for any prospect. I would bottom out for a year or 2, run through a year or 2 of free agency with smart signings. Let talent develope.
More of a 4 year failure to retool a team that could defeat Houston. The failure to shake up the roster while trotting out roughly the same core that continually came up short in October was their biggest mistake.
If I was the gm for one season, I would trade Bader, Torres, DJ, Rizzo and Donaldson for some pitching prospects and established pitchers. I’ll look to utilize prospects(Cabrera, Peraza, Periera, Wells, Jones,etc) to the best I can. I would have Peraza take over short, slide Volpe to second, put Cabrera at third, Jones take over left, Wells behind the dish or at first and Periera in center, ideally. I would build this team around Cole, Judge, Volpe and Peraza
For those five you would be lucky to land 1 prospect. You cant trade 5 pennies for a nickel. Doesn't happen. You would be lucky to get 2 pennies from those five. No one is trading prospects to the Yankees for their drek.
@@TheEWFX29 Gleyber you could get more from especially after the season he’s having. DJ and Rizzo are still reliable(not like they once were). I’m not saying they can get a top-100 prospect for anyone besides Gleyber but something would be nice. I need to fact check myself but Bader is a free agent after this year. They need more rotation depth, catching depth and first base depth. Cole, Rodon and Cortez is a nasty trio if they all stay healthy
@@danlewellen7883 You might get something for Gleybar. But Donaldson, Rizzo and DJ are expensive old pieces with contracts, though short, in most cases aren't attractive. You will get someones old, expensive, problematic player. Maybe a pitcher but we are talking Zack Grienke territory. You will get a pitcher, though neither cheap or young, or probably good. Bader wont get you much with a injury history and lack of production consistently. Maybe a prospect but very young at best and not a top one at all. Probably someone either being put on Rule 5 exposure or a probably future DFA candidate. You might get someone for Gleybar but seeing the situation the Yankees are in teams are going to milk all they can out of the Yankees if they do business at all. A middling pitching talent with a huge or 2 huge contracts attached to them. The Yankees are in no position of power or choice at this stage. They might get lucky with some team but everyone knows the Yankees are desperate and will take full advantage of it.
Love to see it. 1/3 of all world series ? that's insane. they could be bad for 50 more years and still be the most successful baseball franchise of all time.
side note, didn't they develop Alfonso soriano? Not a yankees fan but always loved the way he played
in the majors? Yes. But his pro debut was in Japan
What rebuild? That's the problem, they never once have committed to one.
Ahem. 1991-1993 when Stick Michael took over. Care to revise your BS statement?
@@epaddon lmfao, oh excuuuuse me
I’d hardly call the franchise a laughingstock after one bad season
Their contracts are a disaster and their farm system is bad. Not looking good for the future
I agree with you and still wonder how Cashman and Boone stay in power. Mr. Steinbrenner must be rolling over in his grave at how bad his team has become.
I fear that my SF Giants will soon be on this mini-series. They just can't get out of their way or actually commit to a team building philosophy.
Same shit I've been saying. 1) Should have never let go of Girardi. 2) Team's too old. 3) Yanks need to rebuild every once in a while, like everyone else.
Trade Judge for #1 draft pick. Trade everybody and tank for 4 years and get #1 draft picks. Fire Boone and hire a cheap salary manager. Then in year 5 sign free agents the top dogs out there to mix with young stars.
The New York Yankees should relocate to East Rutherford, New Jersey as the “New Jersey Yankees” along with USFL New Jersey Generals and NFL New Jersey Giants
Steinbrenner? Please... yes, he had a good team in the late 70s, but his 'buy free agents' policy cost the Yankees so many draft picks over the years... and the dynasty years really only happened because Steinbrenner was suspended long enough that some of the youth guys developed. It was never Steinbrenner. Ask Mattingly how many world series Steinbrenner managed to build around him. (And to be clear... Mattingly was elite for years... one of the greatest defensive 1st basemen of all times, hitting for power and average- compared to Boggs, maybe he could have walked a little bit more, but it's not like he was a slouch at drawing walks, just that Boggs was elite at it.)
Also, they are lousy when it comes to the sunk cost fallacy. They are so afraid that if they bench or release someone they are paying a lot of money for might miraculously bounce back that they don't get replacements when they should. On base percentage is important, but a walk never moves a guy over two bases. They don't have a single .300 hitter on the roster. They need to do a better job screening who they sign to get healthier players. They also need to stop focusing on signing the best guy on the market if that means they they skip out on signing 2-3 guys who could improve what they've got more. There is no reason to have multiple players with a large sample size hitting under the Mendoza line.
Loyalty is great... letting a player finish their career with the team they spent their whole lives with is wonderful for the fans, but it also costs you the draft picks or younger talent you could have gotten for them if you'd traded them, so if you are going to do that you need to figure out another way to stock your farm system. If you are going to take shots on free agents you have to offer them a bit more to waive their no trade clauses and be willing to use them, and throwing in some cash, to get something back. A good hitter should, even if they are walking and have some power, hit over .250. If they don't have tons of power they should be close to or over .300 plus drawing walks. If you are going to offer guys long term contracts past when you suspect they'll be worth the money front load the contract and take the luxury tax hit early or just realize you are going to take it down the line (there might be some value to deferring the money if you think inflation will help.) The Yankees have a rich franchise. If you are going to rebuild on the fly, spend the money to do it. If you aren't going to do that, do a proper tear down.
The Yankees will never dominate like they did in their heyday. The draft system, expanded playoffs, a bigger league and revenue sharing... the league will never be that uneven again, but they need to do a better job leveraging their budget to trade for draft picks. You pointed out how few of their draft picks make it through... that may partially be scouting, but for years it's also been that for years they lost lots of top draft picks for compensation picks for free agent signings and they've finished well. Yes, the Astros pick better, but they also tanked for a while deliberately to get high draft picks.
just an update. The Yankees just released Josh Donaldson and Harrison Bader
The New York Yankees should relocate to East Rutherford, New Jersey as the “New Jersey Yankees” along with USFL New Jersey Generals and NFL New Jersey Giants
Real simple. Get rid of stanton, and call up the kids and see what you got for 2 yrs and spend heavy on the bullpen. Fire Cashman, Hire a new analytics ream, change hitting coaches and draft pitchers.
The Yankees have a lot of work to do, they need a better GM and Manager. Joe Girardi was a better manager for the Yankees than Aaron Boone in my opinion. They need to trade Donaldson, Rizzo, LeMahieu, and probably Stanton if he doesn't improve. They need better offensive players like Harper, Correa, or Ohtani, and better outfielders. They shouldn't have traded Urshela. They need some young players and rebuild, even if it takes a few losing seasons to have another championship season. The Yankees also need some pitchers to build around Gerrit Cole, some starting pitchers.
We’re way too injury prone. Like Cortez getting injured in the playoffs last year. .. stuff like that. We don’t have longevity at all.
I’d find this super funny if I wasn’t a Met fan and experiencing the exact same thing 🤦🏽♂️
Its still funnier because Yankees have had a super high payroll for decades, unlike the Mets
We'll have our rebuild done long before the Yankees.
I heard about this guy from the Angels that has gotten a lot of attention for being like a really good pitcher. I don’t know if you guys know him he’s named Shohei Onwabi? (I think that’s how you say it.) Maybe he could go to the yanks. Idk
I hate what the Yankees have done lately and you summarized it well, but most laughable is a bit much. They still are among the top teams in total wins since the last WS. It is ridiculous that this is the standard for them now, but they are still a pretty consistently high end team, as you showed by only really getting bounced by the very best teams. Obviously a ton needs to change for them to get back, but it really doesn't seem that hard. They need to embrace the 2 things that always made them great - building a homegrown core and spending on the absolute top FA. They have some really high quality top prospects at key positions. Extremely talented pitching prospects that are still in the lower minors, but for hitting, Volpe, Pereaza, Jasson, Pereira, and Wells should all be playing key roles on the team next year or should be part of big trades. Then from a FA perspective, they need to spend the JD money coming off the books on Bellinger and the Sevy/Montas money on a reliable and healthy top end starter (Yamamoto or Nola would be my picks). Next year, you have Judge, Belli, Jasson, Pereira, and Stanton rotating OF and DH with Rizzo, Gleyber, Volepe, Peraza and DJ in IF and Wells with probably Trevy at C. SP is Cole, Rodon, new pitcher, Nestor, Clarke with young arms providing depth (and potentially prove it guys like Sevy or Montas as depth too depending on price). BP is never the problem. That is a WS competitive roster. The next offseason, they have to sign Soto. A player on that trajectory with that talent, who prefers the East Coast, cannot become available at his age and not be a Yankee if the pinstripes still mean anything. He joins the OF/DH rotation with Judge, Belli, Jasson, and Pereira, likely playing the most DH of the group because he is not a very good fielder. Stanton at that point will only have 1 remaining high price year at $35m then a $19m and 2 $15m seasons. That much remaining money is moveable if you can find the right partner and pay off some of the money too. After the 2025 season, where you built a high end WS contender with a core of Judge, Soto, Volpe, Belli, Jasson and high end pitching with good depth, you add Murakami in the offseason. Those are really the only 4 FA you have to target - an elite, all-around CF, 2 game changing LHH bats, and a high end pitcher. Otherwise, the Yankees have the prospects to fill in the rest of the positions either by playing them or trading them. It really isn't hard, they just have to act like the Yankees again.
There will be steep competition for Bellinger and one has to ask whether free agents want to come to a last place team with a fanbase known to be ruthless to its own players. To say nothing of being told how to shave. It's not the same prestige to put on pinstripes.
@@kermitfrog593 Ask any player what it means to put on the pinstripes, and they will tell you it still carries tremendous weight. Also, Bellinger grew up watching the Dynasty Yankees teams that his dad played for. He would like to be a Yankee. Also, as hard as fans can be on players, you can see how much they want to cheer for them. Rodon and Sevy have both gotten tremendous applause coming off the mound this year at different points, despite how disappointing their seasons have been as a whole.
@@wwpjd28 Didnt know Bellinger grew up watching his dad play for Yanks, that would indeed increase odds of him signing.
@@kermitfrog593 Yeah. His dad played on at least 2 of the 4 WS winning squads in the 90s. Cody was 4-6yo during his dad's Yankee tenure and then he played for the Angels briefly in 2002. I don't think it is a lock or anything, but certainly have some degree of inside edge if they actually want to sign him. And they should. Really not that hard to build an elite contender with this payroll. I'd sign a depth starter (Sevy, Montas, Wacha, someone like that) and another top tier starter along with Belli this offseason. Then Soto next offseason. Then Murakami the one after that. In 3 years, you have lineup of Volpe SS, Judge RF, Soto DH, Murakami 1B, Gleyber 2B (I'd resign him), Belli CF, Jasson LF, Wells C, and Peraza 3B. Then bench of Pereira as 4th OF, Jones as lefty bat, defensive catcher to backup Wells, and a utility IF (Sweeney, Waldo, DJ still). It is not that hard.
@@wwpjd28 Why don't you send that Christmas list to Santa. I'm kidding. I mean sure, it's a tall order but anything's possible with money. I'd rather see more development from within, and have the team get younger but that's me.
The "rebuild" didn't fail because they never committed to a rebuild.
#1 we need to completely re-haul our scouting / development departments because with our resources we should be at the top of the league in developing players and we are probably one of the worst. When you have 4 hot prospects completely dud out (Sanchez, Bird, Andujar, Frazier) who were supposed to be vital pieces for our up and coming baby bombers.
#2 Get a little creative and try and move on from as many big salaries we have tying us down
Yankee misery makes me smile. Thanks WAR Room.
The New York Yankees should relocate to East Rutherford, New Jersey as the “New Jersey Yankees” along with USFL New Jersey Generals and NFL New Jersey Giants
I'd sell the team. On status alone they'd net $10 billion
The Yankees have like a billion dollars I would just reboot the whole entire system
The New York Yankees should relocate to East Rutherford, New Jersey as the “New Jersey Yankees” along with USFL New Jersey Generals and NFL New Jersey Giants
MLB instituted replay reviews in 2008. Yankees have been to the WS just once since then. Coincidence?
The New York Yankees should relocate to East Rutherford, New Jersey as the “New Jersey Yankees” along with USFL New Jersey Generals and NFL New Jersey Giants
The failed rebuild wait wtf. I'm Yankees fan and we haven't been rebuilding we have been retooling our shed with Rusty tools. Our young guys haven't gotten a shot til this year. Torres and Volpe Judge got there go aheads to start. Florial Delvi Peraza Schmidt and many of our guys have been shafted after one week of games where they got spot starts and got no more chances after the Front office thought they weren't Ready. Schmidt was lucky this year to play the Yanks like making our young guys suffer. Spot start Monday has bad game doesn't play until the next Sunday and is expected to be Barry Bonds.
The New York Yankees should relocate to East Rutherford, New Jersey as the “New Jersey Yankees” along with USFL New Jersey Generals and NFL New Jersey Giants
The scouting and player development personnel need a complete overhaul.
Completely rebuild and try to get prospects
That's never been their model for the past 40-50 years aside from the core 4 + Bernie Williams in the 90s. They always just bankroll the biggest names of free agency. It's kind of cool having a team that has many players that at one time were all-stars at once, and as much as I hate the Yankees, I enjoy having a team that does this. They overpay for players as a result who often go downhill very quickly. Name me 3 Yankee all-stars who came directly from their farm system in your lifetime other than the core 4 + Bernie. You can't. And you won't unless you play moneyball. Johnny Damon, Jacoby Ellsbury, CC Sabatthia, Hideki Matsui, Anthony Rizzo, Josh Donaldson, Aroldis Chapman, Gerrit Cole, Tanaka, A-Rod, I could list 90% of their roster of the past 30 years here and it would apply.
I'll be shocked if they don't try and pay Ohtani 700 million next year, only for him to break his arm in 2 years from signing.
Yankees will never rebuild