Singapore's Unusual Metro Line

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  • Опубликовано: 16 ноя 2024

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  • @JerryWoo96
    @JerryWoo96 Месяц назад +106

    The cross island line will make travelling between east and west faster as there are fewer stations between pasir ris and clementi.

    • @lemonadegem
      @lemonadegem Месяц назад +11

      For people who dont knkw. The song that he uses is remix of the current ewl nsl sound when it arrovrs at a Station

    • @Yadobler
      @Yadobler Месяц назад +7

      And it will solve the issue of the northeast being isolated
      Right now if you want to go from amk to hougang (literally connected by ave5 road) you have to go from amk to Bishan to serangoon and then up to hougang, 30min
      The alternatives are buses like 88 that stop everywhere, 40min
      But by car it's only 10min

  • @rebootmyth8753
    @rebootmyth8753 Месяц назад +72

    Nice use of the station alert music :D

    • @3008Floofs
      @3008Floofs Месяц назад +2

      I love it! The NSEWL Station and In-Train Music!

  • @LeeJcc
    @LeeJcc 28 дней назад +20

    I used to get off the Downtown Line at Little India, buy a teh halia at the hawker centre, walk to Jalan Besar to board the Downtown Line again. I always took note of the car number, and often would board the same car again!

  • @Nicholas-qn7zl
    @Nicholas-qn7zl 29 дней назад +19

    Very informative video! I'm currently one of the engineers working on the Jurong Regional Line, and all of my colleagues are still upgrading & servicing all of the other lines mentioned in your video. I still managed to learn a little history about how DTL came to have a loop that doesn't intersect.

  • @kbhasi
    @kbhasi Месяц назад +36

    (6:37) Yep, you're correct. The station is huge to the point where, if I go by memory rather than looking at signs, I'd sometimes end up heading towards an exit other than the one I had intended to go to.

    • @Ben_Cheng
      @Ben_Cheng 13 дней назад

      Still nothing compared to some of Japan's stations

  • @tanalson
    @tanalson Месяц назад +19

    Bus service 171 has been rerouted to loop around the bukit panjang region. Previously before DTL existed, 171 would travel along bukit timah road to orchard and ended up at marina square. Now everyone that are travelling along bukit timah road are forced to change buses or train to another line just to reach orchard area

  • @see_turtle
    @see_turtle Месяц назад +18

    7:00pm paya lebar to serangoon is hell

  • @_my.nightroutine._
    @_my.nightroutine._ Месяц назад +5

    Great video, you’re quite accurate in accordance to the weird and intriguing story of the Downtown Line. I definitely look forward to more stories of our Singapore MRT network! Good job 👏

  • @ca-ke9493
    @ca-ke9493 Месяц назад +12

    This is such an interesting video as someone who went to school along bukit timah road the entire time the downtown line was being built and heard lot of complaints about the loop. Another grip with the downtown line is also its missed connection with the red line/cck in the northwest. There is a big residential area in the northwest that up to now is still poorly connected metro wise (only being served by ns->ew line). Downtown line could have given them a fast direct connection to the downtown city area if it connected at choa chu kang but now its only connected to those areas via LRT via bukit panjang which really limits its use.

    • @64cgfan
      @64cgfan Месяц назад +2

      When the DTL was built, the priority was to serve Bukit Panjang, which was VERY underserved by the MRT and the buses were packed. The extension to Sungei Kadut should give a better connection to the NSL. I do feel very annoyed that the JRL doesn't interchange with the DTL though -- one either has to take the LRT at CCK to Bukit Panjang, or, when the Sungei Kadut extension opens, take the NSL one stop up from CCK to Sungei Kadut.

    • @qixels_
      @qixels_ Месяц назад +5

      @@64cgfan Im not sure how the EWL is going to cope when the JRL is completed, no west coast extension to haw par villa confirmed so far, all the residents from Tengah are going to be thrown into Jurong East and packed onto the EWL just to further continue their trip to the city. Also the way the CRL is connecting with the EWL at Clementi instead just puts so much pressure on the EWL between Jur East and Clementi tbh

    • @64cgfan
      @64cgfan Месяц назад +1

      @@qixels_ ya I really shudder to think. The 5 day disruption was so bad and there were no other easy rail options.

    • @tomo-tawa-linja
      @tomo-tawa-linja  Месяц назад +1

      I chose not to mention that northern missed connection since at least it seems like there's a plan to fix it

    • @lzh4950
      @lzh4950 Час назад

      Maybe Bt Panjang LRT should be upgraded between Bt Panjang/Phoenix & CCK stations with express service & overtaking tracks. Longer platforms may also need to be built to let the LRT support longer trains & thus more people transferring between DTL & NSL at these 2 stations

  • @lord_raindrops237
    @lord_raindrops237 Месяц назад +13

    Tip for commuters walking from Rochor to Jalan Besar: walk to Exit B and take the escalator up. Walk towards Sim Lim Tower and walk down Jln Besar. Et voila!

  • @defge_cd
    @defge_cd Месяц назад +6

    I did NOT expect the pannenkoek reference! Brilliant

  • @tanjunweirs7jd4pu1p
    @tanjunweirs7jd4pu1p Месяц назад +12

    Rochor -> Jalan Besar
    Marina Bay -> Shenton Way
    Bayfront -> Gardens by the Bay

  • @caines05
    @caines05 Месяц назад +20

    7:20 Before the DTL was extended to Bukit Panjang (BP), Service 190 was the ONLY reasonable form of public transport that’d shuttle commuters to and from the city.
    ruclips.net/video/gY65MF6NwAo/видео.html
    This news broadcast depicted how frustrated commuters were back then, considering that the MRT would have to take detours (especially from Orchard).
    I recall never being able to find a seat, even on weekends, because of the lack of alternative transit options. Bear in mind, Service 972, a complimentary bus route that terminates at BP, was only introduced a month or two after overcrowding made local news headlines.
    Despite the low density neighbourhoods the DTL pass by on the way to BP, the higher-than-average station distance and low ridership (hence faster dwell times) on this section did make the journey to and from the city faster. As for bus services, 190 and 972 still maintain high frequency and ridership, but I’m happy to report that seat availability is definitely more pronounced.
    As for the bus services within the low density areas, they weren’t as severely axed than when the TEL was extended into the city. Actually, there was an outcry that made the LTA U-turn on its decision to discontinue one of the trunk bus services, although reducing its frequency. Many bus services lack expressway access to the city from these low density neighbourhoods, anyways, making regular trunk bus services awfully slow.

    • @qixels_
      @qixels_ Месяц назад +1

      The original viral video of the overcrowding on 190 if anybody's interested: ruclips.net/video/ezQlayJE8Qs/видео.html

    • @tomo-tawa-linja
      @tomo-tawa-linja  Месяц назад

      thanks for sharing :)

  • @Kuristina_M
    @Kuristina_M Месяц назад +6

    It’s definitely not perfect but it certainly helps my travels.
    Ever since DTL opened, I hardly take EW line that much.

    • @javacat_
      @javacat_ 28 дней назад +3

      same! i disagree with the creator that EWL is “more frequent and overall faster trains” compared to DTL (around 8:12). in fact, singapore’s statistics have shown that DTL is the most reliable line out of all the lines, CCL the worst. EWL is really slow, warmer and it sucks.

    • @FartTong
      @FartTong 28 дней назад

      @@javacat_yeah, and the frequency are basically the same at 5mins during off-peak and 2-3mins during peak hour. The only thing bad about the downtown line is that it’s too crowded most of the time and almost unbearable during peak hours due to 3 car formation. Seats are small af and dumb ppl will manspread and take up 2 seats

  • @londonberry2180
    @londonberry2180 6 дней назад

    The Downtown line is extremely useful for people living in certain dense residential parts of Tampines and Bedok. In the past the only option was to take a bus to the main Tampines Station on the East West line which was already starting to get very congested. Being able to walk home from the MRT station beats having to wait for the bus to bring you home after alighting from the MRT station.

  • @tehsiewdai
    @tehsiewdai Месяц назад +6

    Great video, thanks for visiting Singapore!

  • @ninijo1234
    @ninijo1234 6 дней назад

    I think the purpose of addition new stations in the city centre without intersecting existing interchanges was so that we can distribute crowds more efficiently. People can just choose to walk to the nearest station of the line that will bring them home directly.

  • @hmtheeternalkennedy2137
    @hmtheeternalkennedy2137 Месяц назад +9

    I can't wait until we bring all the MRT lines together for one big jamboree

    • @tomo-tawa-linja
      @tomo-tawa-linja  Месяц назад +8

      maybe even a Marine Parade, if you will

    • @hocsll
      @hocsll 27 дней назад +1

      @@tomo-tawa-linja oh snap!

  • @aispweelun
    @aispweelun 24 дня назад +1

    I timed the rochor to jalan besar segment too when trying to find the quickest way to go home. There's almost no difference between walking and taking the MRT in terms of time required. If you took the escalator all the way up instead of the lift, it may even take longer than just sitting in the MRT

  • @strmdominatr5887
    @strmdominatr5887 Месяц назад +11

    Nice video. Honestly there were things you could have mentioned for the CCL, originally a light rail system before force to be promoted to medium level.
    Adding on NSEWL are very hard to beat in terms of usefulness

    • @shadowmamba95
      @shadowmamba95 15 дней назад

      The worst part is that with Phase 6, there will be a capacity crunch, further increasing crowds on stations far from the downtown section of the Circle Line.

  • @chunyujier
    @chunyujier 23 дня назад +1

    Thank u for showing my country’s mass rapid transit 😊

  • @pradyuprasad
    @pradyuprasad 9 дней назад

    this is the first time I'm seeing this channel and I love it!

  • @shadowmamba95
    @shadowmamba95 15 дней назад +1

    Please talk about the Circle Line in the future. That line needs some discussion considering that Phase 6 will be completed 2 years from now, and how it could negatively affect capacity on the line.

  • @trollpotatoe
    @trollpotatoe Месяц назад +2

    hell yeah, a video on my favourite MRT line

  • @AcydRayne-rm8rs
    @AcydRayne-rm8rs 6 дней назад

    im a singaporean and i live in tampines so i have access to both the downtown and east west line, and ill have to say, the east west line is better for islandwide access, but the downtown line is so convenient for whenever i need to get to the town. it goes to all the important spots

  • @converser
    @converser 20 дней назад +2

    Actually the DTL has been seeing insane ridership during peak hours now, it was also a victim of the spillover when EWL on the west side was down for a couple of days. I honestly wished they kept the buses like you said, because it ALWAYS helps to have an extra commute choice in case of emergencies.
    As someone who commutes to Downtown and also using DTL to get to the east side occasionally, yes that loop is very annoying. It was already brought to the government's attention recently that the west lines are not as connected and established as the east lines, and also particularly to the CBD.

    • @tomo-tawa-linja
      @tomo-tawa-linja  20 дней назад

      I saw that west/east thing doing the rounds, and yeah it's annoying... I didn't mention the JRL in this video but I'm not a huge fan of its connections

    • @lzh4950
      @lzh4950 Час назад

      LTA originally planned to build an interchange linkway between Rochor station & Jln Besar station's platforms but gave up as they were also building the North South E'way/corridor's tunnels directly above

  • @nairzD
    @nairzD Месяц назад +2

    Then different nearby lines and buses do be helpful, though. Recently, the ewl was down for a week, but alternative routes are available to some

  • @eseetoh
    @eseetoh Месяц назад

    OMG your video is so fun n educational to watch!! Yes, I've always wondered if the DTL was a bit of a overkill. 😅

  • @SpaceboyYT
    @SpaceboyYT 9 дней назад +1

    Great video! Did you make the chimes yourself?

  • @djpetesake
    @djpetesake Месяц назад +4

    Wow that's so interesting, it's like if the Tehachapi loop were a passenger service downtown! (because I have to compare everything to stuff in California)

    • @tomo-tawa-linja
      @tomo-tawa-linja  Месяц назад +1

      another example for our American viewers is if an L service was to run around the entire Chicago Loop and come back out on an other branch, so think if the Brown and Pink lines were merged.

  • @koifish4276
    @koifish4276 Месяц назад +3

    downtown line used to be the easiest way for me to get to school when i used to study at bukit timah

    • @tomo-tawa-linja
      @tomo-tawa-linja  Месяц назад

      yeah I've heard there are lots of schools up on that line. and I got the whole Tan Kah Kee story too lmao

  • @engardepostsg
    @engardepostsg Месяц назад +4

    Your map of the Eastern Region line looks like it has differences from the modern day Downtown Line Stage 3, as well as details of how the curve would have joined at Chinatown. We couldn't find such details when we did our research for our Downtown Line history video. I was wondering if you had another source for such a map, or was those parts your own conjecture?

  • @cra_55
    @cra_55 17 дней назад

    The Dhoby Ghaut station was modelled after Relativity by M. C. Escher

  • @tanjunweirs7jd4pu1p
    @tanjunweirs7jd4pu1p Месяц назад +4

    151 , 151B , 151C , 651 , 751B : local chime
    R151 : er yng

  • @aehighfmcolinchin
    @aehighfmcolinchin Месяц назад +2

    Regarding the Circle Line, its final stag directly between Habourfront and Marina Bay will have 3 new stations

    • @ntabile
      @ntabile 24 дня назад

      As I said, the Circle will become full Circle soon.

  • @telbayshore
    @telbayshore Месяц назад +7

    0:16 if you look at a geographically accurate map of the MRT system the downtown line doesn’t really extend to the far west. Cool video btw.

  • @friedkitchenrce
    @friedkitchenrce Месяц назад +1

    I've been using downtown line for daily commute to work. I live in bukit panjang and work at expo. It's painfully long.

  • @compounding999
    @compounding999 Месяц назад

    good job with all the detailed nuances

  • @ZhangZhiXiang-01
    @ZhangZhiXiang-01 Месяц назад +1

    10:33 I live near Serangoon Station so I had seen the 5 escalators many times and I'm used to it already

  • @TFTSB
    @TFTSB Месяц назад +2

    Oh sweet, Singapore! What an odd line!

  • @___Danny___
    @___Danny___ Месяц назад +1

    i think one of the issue is space constraints, as in underground. we do have some underground complexes, used to enter one of them.

  • @nulnoh219
    @nulnoh219 Месяц назад

    It needs a hell lot more frequency during rush hour. 6pm at Bugis towards Pasir Panjang is a nightmare. Similarly 7am towards downtown.

  • @antant9523
    @antant9523 Месяц назад +2

    the bukit timah line does not actually end at the nicoll highway station. the construction plan for the original nicoll highway is two island platform stack together. if bukit timah line were to end at nicoll highway station, the platform should be perpendicular instead. the nicoll highway platform stacking is most likely for the old thomson line based on old concept plans.

    • @arkynkueh
      @arkynkueh Месяц назад

      No, the Bukit Timah line would have ended at Promenade, with a Cross Platform Interchange at Nicoll Highway

    • @antant9523
      @antant9523 Месяц назад

      @@arkynkueh 2:09 you show nicoll highway as the end

    • @arkynkueh
      @arkynkueh Месяц назад

      Yeah but the original plan was to have a double cross platform interchange. Thats why Promenade station was built with space for 2 more tracks.​@antant9523

  • @JayHo-y8z
    @JayHo-y8z Месяц назад

    Perhaps in future stations we can consider sharing platforms for different lines (like the London underground) if space is such a constraint. If we had adopted this method, separate platforms in city hall/raffles place and promenade/bayfront wouldn't be needed, which would save money too.

    • @Vampireiiig_Official
      @Vampireiiig_Official Месяц назад

      But then the trains will have a higher chance of accidents and the platforms will be overcrowded and ppl will get on the wrong train

  • @jerry_myuu
    @jerry_myuu Месяц назад +2

    Yay more transit vids😊

  • @IloveA22s
    @IloveA22s Месяц назад +6

    Using a SMRT chime on a SBST line is sus

    • @SGrailadventure2004
      @SGrailadventure2004 Месяц назад +1

      And likewise for TEL using SBST announcements for some reason

  • @ski3r3n
    @ski3r3n Месяц назад

    ty for letting me know why thetr is no dtl connection at the loop

  • @ntabile
    @ntabile 24 дня назад

    The Circle Line will soon come into full circle!

  • @YaoboyProd2K15
    @YaoboyProd2K15 28 дней назад

    LTA should have amended bus 170's route years aft DTL existed, thus ridership in that said bus route would be reduced as more people would ride this MRT line from Bugis to Bukit Panjang.

  • @riptyurass302
    @riptyurass302 26 дней назад

    I wish they made a tunnel connecting Jalan Besar station and Rochor Station without needing to tag out. That way if you're going west to east you can get out, walk 400m and skip the whole city loop.

    • @gelinrefira
      @gelinrefira 25 дней назад

      That's a lot of tunnel though, and sound expensive for what is essentially an underpass.

    • @riptyurass302
      @riptyurass302 25 дней назад

      @@gelinrefira Very doable, the nearest exits between both stations is 80 metres, they've dug a longer stretch of tunnel to connect TEL Orchard station with North/South

  • @abao
    @abao Месяц назад +1

    All MRT lines after the NEL are band aids for bad overall government zoning and planning. It is an important node for people living in Bukit Panjang though. and the Bukit Timah stretch exists to placate the plebs that they have a chance of sending their kids to good schools without incurring crazy transport costs.

  • @ianlim4404
    @ianlim4404 17 дней назад

    You know, the DTL, CCL, and TEL are not in the category of the urban lines. They are known as the underskirt lines. The JRL and the CRL would not be closer to their own lines. Only the Seletar Line can unburden and relief the DTL, CCL, and TEL in terms of area development.

  • @pewpewnim
    @pewpewnim 24 дня назад

    I don’t think the DTL was meant to get people from Bulit Panjang to Tampines or vice versa, it’s meant to get people to the the downtown.
    Getting to the east from the west is best served by bus 966, which gets people from Bukit Panjang to Eunos in less time then it takes for them to take a feeder bus to the DTL station and then making the whole trip, OR taking the LRT to Choa Chu Kang, and then changing at Jurong East to the east west line.
    The state of public transport in the west is in shambles.

  • @yukooomi
    @yukooomi Месяц назад

    I thought I'd also give my 2 cents on the "victim of its own success", in my (unqualified, hence take it as a grain of salt) opinion, the DTL is far too stretched out for its frequency. I went to the downtown quite a bit, I have seen the crowds and it is rough, every train that comes in is shown to be nearly full and it is a hassle. For a line paralleling the EWL for half the eastern stretch and with 35 stations, it's almost a de-facto main line with the target crowd it has to serve, especially with the axing of bus routes in areas. "Why there aren't more trains?" is a wonderful question I share with you, and I wish I knew too. The 3-car issue of the DTL definitely isn't fun, but I believe they weren't unable to find space originally since this is, as you've said, 3 smaller lines combined as one. I never knew the DTL was this complicated an issue though, so it's very insightful!

  • @spaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaace
    @spaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaace Месяц назад

    10:34 serangoon is normally more crowded than that

  • @theorangutan2339
    @theorangutan2339 Месяц назад +4

    8:53 am i the only one that gets this meme lolllllllllll

  • @DOGEE_FOREVER
    @DOGEE_FOREVER 28 дней назад

    Ngl dte train carrages are super short compared to the other lines, like ewl is 6 carts while ste is 3

  • @riser7795
    @riser7795 Месяц назад +2

    How to tell if someone has been to Singapore before - the way they pronounce "Tampines"

    • @tomo-tawa-linja
      @tomo-tawa-linja  Месяц назад +1

      I wanted to do a whole video on OUR Hub but didn't have the time sadly, though I did check it out!

    • @ski3r3n
      @ski3r3n Месяц назад

      bukit timaaaah line 😅

  • @knightsljx
    @knightsljx 6 дней назад

    there are tons of dumb design decisions for the MRT in Singapore, and this is one of them. it wouldn't be so dumb if there was a station at the intersection that allowed you to get off and switch trains to avoid the loop. it's not even that far fetched. the are 2 stations literally 10 minutes walk away from each other near the intersection and you COULD potentially save time if you're a fast walker.

  • @yp8839
    @yp8839 Месяц назад

    My favourite line is the Downtown Line.

  • @isaiahtan5657
    @isaiahtan5657 11 дней назад

    tbh dhoby ghaut isnt the worst… imagine in japan in shinjuku 😭

  • @hafizumar107
    @hafizumar107 29 дней назад

    Those who don't know what happened at Nicoll Hwy: ☺☺☺
    Those who know what happened at Nicoll Hwy: 🥶🥶🥶

  • @captainfieryandgamingwithj5129
    @captainfieryandgamingwithj5129 Месяц назад

    4:05 I WAS THINKING THE SAME THING

  • @ski3r3n
    @ski3r3n Месяц назад

    its 3 min frequency on peak hours what more do you want? 1?

  • @aehighfmcolinchin
    @aehighfmcolinchin Месяц назад

    Do the video of Singapore Circle Line

  • @liuyongkanghorizonps7321
    @liuyongkanghorizonps7321 Месяц назад

    Bro used DTL but has NSEW-CCL announcement chime…

  • @bacondoesthings123
    @bacondoesthings123 Месяц назад

    sina jan pi toki pona anu seme?

  • @bytemegga
    @bytemegga Месяц назад

    i know im old when i remember how irrelevant Dhoby Ghaut was 😢

  • @artyzach
    @artyzach Месяц назад

    4:05 awh i'm kinda like sam denby there... bahahahahaha
    only true half as interersting / jetlaggers will get it XD

  • @MiguelX413
    @MiguelX413 Месяц назад +1

    First

  • @BradleyLoh
    @BradleyLoh Месяц назад +2

    The reason as to why you have to tap out of stations to transfer to another line is most likely cause the two lines are run by different operators. E.g. transfer from the downtown line, operated by SBS Transit. To the north south line,operated by SMRT.

    • @gkchiang
      @gkchiang Месяц назад +5

      Not all actually you need to tap out for different operators like at Bayfront and Pormanade the DTL by SBS to Circke line by SMRT no need to tap in tap out

    • @FionaSeah
      @FionaSeah Месяц назад +6

      This happens only when it has construction limitations or it is just cost way lesser to not build a whole new underpass or bridge to connect it. There’s an example such as Caldecott Station. If you see an emergency staircase when transferring, this used to be a former exit of Caldecott but they decided to close since both CCL exit roads are jusr minor slip roads which is still okay to sacrifice that exit. However, as the NSL exits road are main arterial roads and are wide apart. Newton NSL Station was also meant to be an underpass which is why they decided not to sacrifice that exit compared to Caldecott. So, that’s why Newton is a Tap in Tap out Station. As for Bukit Panjang and Tampines, they had been build long before the DTL begin construction. Also the distance between both lines are quite far apart. Just look at Tampines their exits between each other are far apart. It would have been way better to implement a Tap in Tap out than build a whole new underpass for Tampines. Also for the LRT at Bukit Panjang, the space wasn’t alot for an LRT Station at first not plan to have a MRT Line in it. This is due to space constraints. If you see Choa Chu Kang, Sengkang or Punggol. They were planned to build along together with the MRT Line. That’s why it’s possible for them but not Bukit Panjang. This Tap in Tap out will also happen at Rivera when the CRL Extension finished due to the same reason.

    • @laujunming4152
      @laujunming4152 Месяц назад +5

      False, there's plenty of stations with different operators that don't require a tap out transfer: Expo, MacPherson, Bayfront, Promenade, Stevens, Botanic Gardens, etc

    • @ntabile
      @ntabile 24 дня назад

      ​@@gkchiangIt's the same at Kebun Bunga.