I just realized that Bloberta made clay into the image of her father which is the only person who loved her then so maybe clay would love her (with alcohol glasses) but in the end alcohol affects everyone differently and he became this person
well yeah but I think Bloberta's father loved her outside the influence of alcohol. He loved her period, he just also had substance abuse issues to go along with it. Clay didn't start off loving Bloberta. He arguably never did and alcohol didn't change that.
@@ferochoosss328 I had this stinky feeling that Clay would have ended up the same if he didn’t resolves his issues first. The alcohol wasn’t the root of the problem, all of his unresolved baggage (from his childhood), the horrible society he lives in which encouragers his awful behavior and his awful coping mechanism are more to blame. Who is to say that he would drink later in life? I do belong his marriage with bloberta was one of the worst things that could have had happened to him. Clay is a person who was meant to stay single until he dealt with all of his baggage (but again same thing goes to bloberta)
@@FIREDOGG999 I get really sad and confused with this statement. Cuz clay clearly was trying to be a decent person and fight his deamons in silence(before bloberta). It just now the booze makes it easier to dwell in the sorrow and act out. Like she acts just as bad with out the booze.
Nobody loves Bloberta. She is often overly blamed for Clay's actions, ignoring his own childhood, and treating her like the ultimate manipulator. She is both just as trapped and as culpable as he is. Clay is no innocent victim.
Wow, now I understand why Shapey and Block became a cop and fireman. It was the positive influence of Papermouth! I imagine he would have been more active as a stepfather and that would have inspired them to become responsible adults.
I'm honestly surprised Shapey can even function considering all the dangerous stuff he was allowed to do to himself and I honestly thought he had Downs Syndrome by the way he acted.
It could be rebellion on the parts of the two boys. Their parents lived on rock bottom due to the chaos brought about by the poor discipline. Shapey and Block may have realized this and sought self-discipline in order for them to become successful. Orel may have been a factor, too. Being the elder brother he may have been a natural leader who made up for Clay's deficiencies. Clay and Orel were polar opposites; Orel was wise like Socrates while Clay was an immature man child.
She wasn't concerned about raising her detergent budget, she used the detergent budget to convince her husband to intervene with Orel. She was concerned about having to do extra laundry.
Not really, no. She was pretty fine with Orel getting beaten up beforehand. She saw him all bloody a ton. Besides, one of the main themes of the show is how she doesn’t care, and has checked out to everything.
The more videos on Moral Oral come out, the more I realize how much of a crime it was that the show got cancelled. This really deserved to have a proper ending.
Bloberta as a whole reminds me a little of Beatrice Horseman: Someone the audience does not like as a person but understands as a character. They both grew up in abusive households. Both latched onto the first man they could find who turn out to be horrible as people and husbands. Both found their life choices were horrible mistakes. Both have at least one kid they did not want. Both do nothing substantial to actually leave the unhappy marriage for one reason or another (like not believing in divorce). And both end up condemned for eternal misery in the end. And, sure, we might WANT to feel sympathy for them, but their actions and behavior around innocent parties make it almost impossible. Beatrice took her anger and frustration out on Bojack, Bloberta is so neglectful to the point of endangering her children.
@@thebowiththemost119 I mean, we could argue that too. They are both people who suffered from somewhat similar issues growing up, but where they differ is Clay was a certified narcissist from a young age (either being born that way or due to his mother's influence), whereas Beatrice suffered from a lack of support through no real fault of her own.
@@frankielovejoy9928 I think why I associate Beatrice with Clay more is because they have the common theme of loss of innocence. Both of them had episodes that explored their childhood when they both lost their innocence. With Clay, it was his mother passing because of his prank and his father hating him. With Beatrice, it’s the loss of her brother, the lobotomy of her mother, and her father burning her doll. Also, they both made their children go through the same “Loss of Innocence”. With Beatrice repeated abuse and mistreatment throughout Bojacks childhood, and with Clay when he shoots Orel in the leg and Orel says “I hate you”.
Personally I feel for her. I can comfortably say I relate. The biggest difference is that I choose not to reproduce. I went through it and I'd rather the line and with me. It's not like I don't want kids, because I do. I just don't want to be that kind of parent. (Also my mIL says I should not reproduce because I'll pass on ADHD)
Bloberta: is insanely cold and negligent towards her children Moral Orel fandom: I sleep Bloberta: convinces a grown man to drink one time Moral Orel fandom: *real shit*
@@baronreeves9232 and clay was a factor in HER crappiness. its mutual. his problems are much bigger than her, its unfair and absolutely untrue to clay's character to pin his alcoholism on bloberta
Honestly, Clay needed to be single. Everything he touched went south, and that only got worse when he met Bloberta. Bloberta needed to not latch onto the first new face she saw. If she hadn't manipulated him into marrying her, maybe she wouldn't have felt as numb. Clay would have still been a shell of a person, but at least he wouldn't have been dragging a whole family down with him. This was a wonderful video and i can't wait to see more!
While true.. Then Orel. Would not have been born.. And you seen the kind of family the one he ends up with had.. It would have meant those two never would have encountered each other as well.. Something I find funny at least. That.. Said.. I do not think Bloberta would have been a good mother regardless. I get the feeling that even if she had found the best person for herself to be with at the start, she would have still ended up bad situation of her own making. Something that is getting ignored here as well as.. These characters made their own choices. At least SOME good, slightly distantly from them, but at least SOME good, came about with them being together.
Bloberta tried being with Daniel, that didnt work. She tried with the doc, that didn't work. Maybe it's commentary on how married/divorced women are undesirable to men, but no one wants Bloberta. Not even her family.
Clay probably would have been happier, he still would have been broken but his life probably would have been a lot more normal, he probably wouldn't have become the mayor, he might have actually come to grips with his sexuality, he would have continued to not drink, and probably just become one of those door to door missionaries. Bloberta would have probably been better off and found someone she could actually be with, or at least better then Clay turned out to be.
I realized she literally has the same backstory as my own mother. Alot of the older generations are like this couple and i don't know how to feel about that.
I read somewhere once that when Oral’s grandfather died in the 4th season the creator envisioned, she was actually gonna turn sympathetic to Oral. Really would’ve loved to see that.
In that scene in Numb where she breaks down, I think she was crying because of how she’s trapped not only herself but Orel in this hellish life with Clay. Nothing she did to make Clay better worked.
ok just a minute in but....Clay is NOT the thing that broke Bloberta. He's only a part of it. Her family doesn't value her in the slightest, Censordoll didn't value her, Daniel and Puddy and Quentin didn't value her. No. One. Values. Her. That's what broke her. She has no one who genuinely needs and loves her. If your real answer is "Clay Puddington", you're wrong.
Except her children who she neglects because she hates having to care for them. This is why they say you can't love anyone if you can't love yourself. Because people who are empty inside are really not capable of caring deeply about others, they are just desperately chasing whatever they think will make them not empty anymore.
Yeah, I feel like boiling it down to one thing that 'broke' her is far too simplistic of a way of looking at things, and saying that that one this was Clay feels ignorant and shortsighted. There's so much that makes a person, and while yes, something can be the straw that broke the camels back, I don't think that's the case with Bloberta. She was unhappy for awhile before Clay, and that was for many reasons, and it was that unhappiness that led in to her decision to get with Clay in the first place. It was a slow build up for her to get where she is now, but she made her bed and is now lying in it.
@@OldTimeyDragon I don't understand why people are defending her. This show is entirely her fault. Clay was a ticking time bomb sure, but it was Bloberta's rush to marry literally any man she could that broke her. She didn't love Clay. Like many girls she was approaching 30, everyone around her was getting married and it drove her nuts. She tricked Clay and when Clay realized what had happened, it was already too late. That's what fueled his alcoholism. This lesson is all too real and it's why it hits so close to home. I tell every guy I meet, 27-33 year old women are virtually undateable and should be avoided like the Plague.
@@ZeroX7649 EXACTLY! While I feel clays trauma most definitely contributed to how violent he could be, Bloberta most definitely took advantage of him. Made him drunk and forced the idea of marriage then got mad when they weren’t the perfect husband and wife.
Idk but something about Bloberta breaking down in tears outside of Orels room breaks something in me. It's like it all clicks in her head, she didn't just get herself stuck in this hell, she got her son's in it too.
I really don’t get the “she made clay an alcholic” thing. It looks like she wanted him to drink to loosen him up when they just met. He just put 150% into it and never stopped. He made himself an alcoholic. That’s like saying “oh you have a healthy person a burger, and they started gorging and gained weight, so you made them obese”.
Yeah, but she heavily influenced it. She pushed him multiple times! When they were repeatedly getting multiple drinks she kept him going. She was just trying to make him like her father, an alcoholic. Then tricked him and moving him towards marrying her, which he never wanted to do which made him depressed and drink more. The father had a choice to continue drinking, but she started his downward spiral.
@@Prest414 He was already a shitty person before he started drinking though, looking at his childhood. Alcohol amplifies all of his horrible qualities, but they were never truly gone even before he got hooked.
Granted he was the one who overindulged and drinking became and escape for him but she should’ve never even forced him to drink. Clay loved the read books, talk about god and drink apple juice. Bloberta took advantage of him
Great observation on Bloberta. Bloberta also inherited her mom's bad habit of spoiling her youngest child. She really ruined Clay's life and the another reason for marrying him was because her friends were getting married, but she didn't. She wanted to be accepted by her friends; however, her friends' marriages ended badly. Bloberta and Clay's marriage is horrible. She married him for nothing. She also wanted to escape her home life and she was desperate; however, her marriage was worse off than ever. She did her mom a favor by leaving the family. She can't run away from her problems. She got Clay to become alcoholic. She wanted Clay to be like her father since her father was the only one that ever loved her. There is also another reason why Bloberta and Clay don't get divorce is 'denial.' Here is what I mean, they were afraid their divorce will ruined their reputation and afraid what the townspeople will think; however, most of the people in Moralton are fully aware their marriage is terrible because Bloberta and Clay really exposed themselves in public and also humiliated themselves in public. Remember when Orel asked by her married Clay, she really didn't want to tell Orel the truth. When she answers, 'Why Not,' was the same tone she gave on her wedding vows. When she left Orel's room, she broke down crying. Orel is slowly learning the truth. She knew it was her fault. She didn't confront Clay when Orel got shot.
Honestly, they’re both terrible people who deserve each other. I don’t think Blobertta is nearly as bad as clay. She didn’t make him an alcoholic, he became one because he hates her and their marriage. She’s broken who was desperate for love and to fit in because she never did in anything. Her family, her friends, her activities, always the one excluded and pushed away. Don’t get me wrong, Blobertta is terrible, but it’s not like Clay couldn’t say no to the marriage proposal. She was motherly, doting and helpful, much like his mom. I don’t think it’s fair to place all the blame on Blobertta, she knew the marriage was only a way to fit into SOMETHING. But now there’s no other feeling for their marriage but hate
@@vinemon Bloberta really didn't think things through at the end. She didn't want to tell Orel the truth. She felt ashamed to tell him. This is what happens when she got married for all the wrong reasons.
@@smb-c3po that would be a good moment, but due to her denial and not wanting to ruined her reputation despite it's already ruined, she can't leave Clay. The moment she tells Orel the truth is the moment she is taking a big step to finally change.
I think it's ironic that Bloberta ended up with a partner who was in essence an amalgamation of everything that was wrong with her own family. Like Bloberta's mother, Clay is selfish, verbally abusive, disnissive, and narcissistic. Like her father, he's weak, and obviously an alcoholic; but both these traits probably came from his own father as well. Clay was also the favorite (only living) child in his family, and his mother absolutely ruined him, while Blobert grew up with two spoiled siblings. The irony of a golden child marrying a scapegoat is just...wow... Honestly, I think when it comes to her children (especially Orel), Bloberta cares for them about as much as she's capable of love at this point. At least she doesn't seem to openly despise them, as she does with Clay. She may have been neglectful, especially to Shapey and Block, to the point of not even realizing that they'd been switched, but she's never been overtly cruel toward them. Truthfully, I think part of the reason she's so distant with her children is because she's probably never been shown any maternal affection herself, any more than she's probably seen a healthy marriage.
Bloberta attempted to make Clay into her father, so affection from him would be a substitute, give her an alternate route to earn his love. Another chance, where she had no competition from mother and siblings. She was chasing a paradox. Love didn't mean anything unless it was coming from her father or a clone of him, but someone like him is incapable of giving it.
Yes! So this! Bloberta, like many other *male* characters on the show, is a victim of her family. She might have handed Clay his first drink but Clay continued to choose to drink. Clay was perfectly set up to veer towards alcoholism BUT BLOBERTA DIDN'T KNOW THAT. Furthermore, yes, she was using alcohol to self-medicate but she was not alcoholic and therefore could not truly understand the choices of an alcoholic.
@@seungminmakesmestay Its hard to stop once u start drinking. She really made him have his first drink that made I'm spiral. I seen people start being addicted to cigarettes the same way. It is her fault he started. Tho is is up to him to stop. But y stop when ur trapped. She made him feel like marriage was the only option. She made her bed she lays in remember. He could of sad no but she was crying and asking for help. He would of felt like the bad guy and now he is the bad guy. Not saying clay isn't bad but they both are just as bad. Clay was figuring himself out. Bloberta thought she new what she wanted in life. A husband and children. Clay made it clear he didn't or didn't know.
I think Bloberta and Clay are both so at fault for their marital problems that which of them are worse is just not that big an issue in comparison to how bad they both are. If one of them was actually trying by the end of season 3 to fix their marriage, then I'd lean more towards them, but neither of them are. By the end of season 3, they have both completely given up on the marriage. Could one of them alone fix their marriage? Of course not, it would take both, but someone has to be the first, and neither of them have any interest in stepping up. I think at the end of the day, Clay and Bloberta are both in a bed of their own making, kept their by their own choices. In the words of Galinda "They deserve eachother".
But in the end of Moral Orel there is a picture of Clay and Bloberta together in the photo, so Shapey became an officer but not because of Officer Papermouth, as Clay and Bloberta forever stayed together in a painful marriage
I think the reason why she shows some love towards Orel and tolerates him, as opposed to Shapey, comes down to who is the biological father. Orel reminds her of Clay before the alcohol- innocent, naïve, and devoted to God. My guess why she ignores him most of the time is because she fears that if she interacts with him any more than needed he will end up like Clay, an abusive alcoholic. Shapey is a constant reminder that she used was for one purpose and it was directed to someone else. I would say that what Stopframe did to her would be the same as your crush singing to you a romantic song and asking for your input only for them to use the same song on your friend/family member. Also, the reason why she gives Shapey all those things is probably to get rid off him, she cares about her image so it’s not like she could get an abortion, use plan B, or try to get a miscarriage since she is devoted to God but Shapey having an “accident” makes it a tragedy. Where the burden of blame is put on Shapey “being too adventurous, curious, a free spirit and a risk taker” and not on her being a terrible mother or not being a devote follower of God.
That's honestly scary, it reminds of Deep Space Nine and finding out the only Reason Benjamin Sisko's parents got together was because the Wormhole Aliens needed him to be born so they possessed his mother and forced her into having sex with his father to conceive Benjamin. The only difference is after Benjamin was born his mother left and that was the end of it.
just got to watching this and i love these videos sm, moral orel is such a hidden gem also i disagree that she only cared that orel was getting bullied because she had to wash his clothes. if you can see when she first sees his clothes she has some genuine concern for him, and tries to show that concern to clay, but hes not listening. he only listens when she tells him she has to up her detergent budget, because she knows clay cares more about money than orel.
I won't say I'm very deep into the 'Moral Orel' fandom but Bloberta and Clay come off as true villains. Broken individuals seated deep in their own heads, which results in them mistreating everyone around - almost exclusively their children who are innocent in all of it. The best ending would be that Moral and his brothers are taken in by CPS while the senior Puppingtons die of an OD in their shame if they're unwilling to seek help for their faults.
Fun fact: one of the episodes before the show got cancelled was that Bloberta and Officer Papermouth would fall in love, so perhaps they were planning some sort of redemption arc for her (maybe as some sort of parallel to Clay, Bloberta takes the first opportunity to fix her life while her "husband" actively sinks even further into his vices)
7:36 In all fairness, Bloberta had no clue she'd make Clay into an alcoholic... and her manipulation consisted SOLELY of lying to Clay; she didn't purposely or even knowingly exploit his budding addiction.
I kind of disagree with this. She didn’t just manipulate him by lying to Clay, she used his moral weakness against him to convince him to drink. By the point they were at the bar, she knew he was religious and didn’t drink, and she told him that Jesus drank a lot, which made him less leery about it. She also stays with him as he gets drunk and leers at other women, when she knew he didn’t want to get married and probably should have assumed marrying someone with Clay’s behavior wouldn’t be a great idea. Did she know she’d make Clay become the way he was? Probably not, though her own experience with alcohol maybe should have colored her view. But she did show that she could be very manipulative in pushing a hungover man to marry her to get away from her domineering and neglectful family.
This makes you question about a lot of those marriages back in the day like the 40s to 50s the 30s etc how many of those couples truly loved each other once the honeymoon ended so many times we hear about the old time marriages how couples stayed to together for 40 to 50 years yes that is true but majority of those couples in my honest opinion stop loving each other decades ago and they was forced to stay with one another because of stable and comfortably. I was work retirement home and this pretty old lady said her and husband after 30 plus years of marriage she said the love wasn't there and the kids was grown and out of the house and they had grandkids so they decided to get divorce they still care for each other and they still love each other by their not in love with each other and she said something that will stick to me forever she said "many of those marriages lasted because the women got too old to move on".
I feel like you’re missing the point with the episode “help”, and bloberta in general. She never manipulated clay or made him into a bad person. She communicated to her father through alcohol, so she thought one drink help clay and her talk as well. Clay’s own actions and his continued drinking are his own fault, as he says himself: “You really helped me out of my shell”. Furthermore, when clay’s head hit the ground, he was reminded of that feeling of losing his mother, how: “no one has picked my head up like that in a long time”. Clay willingly married bloberta. Even if he didn’t want to get married at first, he saw bloberta as filling in something he lost when he was a child. On the other side of the coin, Bloberta wanted an escape from her neglectful and abusive life, and she saw that through clay. The part of the episode when she was holding clay’s head and begged the word “help” while almost crying was her begging for a way out of her miserable life. Despite herself seeing and knowing clay was not the right person to marry to help her, she still did it because anything would be better than her old life, as she says herself: “why not”. Both bloberta and clay are horrible people and tragic characters that had only gotten married in order to fill a void in their life, but had instead resulted in them creating an even bigger void. However, bloberta particularly hits a cord with me because of how she only ever wanted to feel genuinely loved by someone, to the point where she poisoned herself and others in order to try and get that.
I've always liked the imperfect ending that Moral Orel ended up with. Not everything got wrapped up nicely with a bow on top, and that's how it is sometimes. I've always found any continuation/sequel of a story where things get better from the imperfect a little forced and this would fall into that category.
Her being with officer papermouth is something i am interested to see. I condemn cheating but it seems that Bloberta really just want s someone to love her.
I love moral oral, because it was a VERY acurate way to describe me growing up in my religon, but oddly enough in a more lighter tone ( I know right?" I have a friend who saw me grow through the stages, and she knew me then. So when Moral Oral was out everyone else in group didn't believe me, I would ask her to PLEASE TELL THEM. and she was like "That is more accurate than you think. This girl was Moral, and it was akward, awful and painful to watch." because she knew my dad. EVERY ADULT KNEW MY DAD! and they chose to ignore what was happening. I've come a long way, I got better. I had to do most myself, but I'm there.
I think I have more sympathy for bloberta than the average fan, I think she's a pretty bad mother, but I don't agree at all that she turned Clay into an alcoholic. She may have pressured Clay to drink that night, but Clay is still responsible for himself. He's not a child when this occurred, he was a grown man who should've controlled himself. He's also responsible for every drink he had after that night too. To put that on bloberta is kinda fucked up and almost victim blaming in my opinion. I also understand why she didn't jump ship despite the early on red flags. She was in a neglectful, abusive home and for her, the only way out was marriage. (Doesnt seem like there's a whole lot of options for making your own money as a woman in moralton). She also has no idea of what real love looks like and has no self esteem, so how is she supposed to know to not settle for him? I don't think any of this excuses the horrible ways she neglects her children, but I just can't hate her. I mainly just feel sad for her. Really wish we could've seen her get atleast a better ending then what she got. Edit: formatting lol
They both had ample opportunities to jump ship before they got married. I don't think it's wrong to blame Bloberta for pressuring Clay into trying Alcohol, but it is only half the story. It was wrong for Bloberta to tempt Clay into doing something which went against his conscience, and it was wrong of Clay to give in. Bloberta is not responsible for Clay drinking, but she is responsible for pressuring him to do so, which is worse.
Bloberta is responsible for 2 ways in my opinion 1. When blobberta knows that Clay isn't a good man she still went on to marry him despite red flags 2. Blobberta shouldn't probably forced Clay into Alcohol cause once a person like Clay seeking answers and closure and introduced in alcohol, promise i tell you it was bad.
@@StrategicGamesEtc I kind of agree, it was 100% wrong the way she manipulated and pressured Clay into drinking. Still every drink Clay had that night and his behavior towards his family, specially Orel after he married her were still his choice. He was an adult he could have stopped drinking, he could have become a better father or he could have had left all together (which would have been better for everyone tbh). Clay was always a broken person because of the way his family treated him and I think the alcohol and his eventual marriage with Bloberta made his issues exponentially worse but they weren’t the source nor the root of the problem. Same with Bloberta, both Clay and Bloberta’s home life and each other helped turn themselves into who they are but each other presence weren’t the only factor nor the root of their problem and it doesn’t take away from both of them being adults who chose that life to live in.
@@toliniewilliams6562 nobody said it was simple to give up? but he didn’t even make an effort. he could have controlled the drinking before it evolved into an addiction but he didn’t
Clay and Bloberta are in a classical tragedy of a marriage. They're doomed to an unhappy life entirely because of their own choices and who they are as people. Their suffering could end at any time by their own actions, but their own fatal flaws prevent them from doing what would save them. It's beautifully crafted from a writing standpoint.
I want all the characters to have gotten a happy ending, even Clay. As horrible as he, Bloberta and alot of the cast are, alot of it is down to their respective traumas, miserable lives and suffocating community they're stuck in. They all have the potential to be happy, good people, but many of them had the deck stacked against them from the start. Clay is the most despicable person on the show but even he has a sympathetic backstory with his traumatic upbringing that basically screwed him up for life. Bloberta just set his already fallen house of cards on fire.
I don’t know if the last episode would have been so effective if everyone had a happy ending. What makes Orel’s ending so touching is that, yes, everyone in Moralton has traumas, but he managed to not become a victim of them or build a family with them, and that’s pretty hard to do. Orel changing and finding happiness means more when we see his parents still unwilling to do likewise.
@@C.V317 Oh yes. I totally agree if everyone got a happy ending the final scene would have been much less impactful. Seeing Orel overcome such a toxic, loveless, abusive family despite all the odds against him doing so is genuinely cathartic. It would be less meaningful if everyone got a happy ending. That said I mainly feel bad for Clay and Bloberta because they were both trapped by the society they were born and raised into. Once they were married they both realised that and had no means to escape. Orel was lucky to get out while he could. I think the marriage was the nail in the coffin for his parents ever being happy.
personally, I disagree with the "bloberta bad because of what she did to clay". her neglect is by far the worst trait and what actually makes her abusive. if you look at her family and her upbringing, how her relationship with clay started is understandable---- bad, yes, but actually understandable. when you're raised in a christian religion as a woman your worth is almost synonymous with being a wife and mother. she was just following the blueprint, if by manipulative means. and clay being an alcoholic is more to do with him just being an alcoholic and his own twisted coping mechanisms and circumstance. yeah, she introduced him to it or whatever, but its an obvious nod to her father and her trying to achieve 'family' like any good god fearing woman should, or like something freudian or whatever. your tangent about bloberta's marriage being her fault was extremely off-putting and weird to me. moral orel is first and foremost a satiric commentary of christianity, and in christianity family/marriage is ultimately number one. these are real experiences people can have, I remember being taught in church (mormon, not necessarily christian) as a girl never to say no to dates and dances, and that its normal to marry as soon as you can. this is something encouraged throughout your entire life as a woman in religion, and the peer pressure in that episode was palpable. yes, bloberta could have "gotten out while she had the chance" but that rhetoric is inevitably harmful when applied. where was clays autonomy when you were talking about that? I can go into great detail about why he would agree to marry her (deleted a paragraph) and how he was definitely manipulated into it as well, but if we're playing the victim-blaming-game we should recognize that a marriage takes two. bloberta is not purely a victim of her circumstances, her coercion of clay was bad and her neglect is near irredeemable, but her circumstances are definitely informed by the fact that being a woman raised in religion is inherently damaging and can very much set you up to break. anyways, this is a good video I really agree with a lot of it! i love your content, looking forward to more moral orel videos!!!
*"being a woman raised in religion is inherently damaging and can very much set you up to break."* fuck. i felt that in my core. shit. I kinda feel more for her now. reminded me just how fucked i woulda stayed if I hadnt left god behind. i coulda ended up like her, had my family and friends pressured me (i lucked out in that i got the "sex is bad boys are bad dont rush ever" side of it instead of the "marriage is everything to a god fearing woman you'd best give me grandkids" treatment) i dont think people realize just how deep that damage goes
I'm very glad you brought up the specific ways Christian fundamentalism affects women since it isn't touched on as much in the show. You're taught that your whole value as a person comes down to how men view you and your relations to them. It's hard to fully relate to unless you were subjugated to similar teachings. This is what makes her so sympathetic to me despite her very shitty decisions.
I've only discovered Moral Orel recently and, ohhh, it cuts - I grew up with a Christian mother, who I pretty much hated, I'd get beaten for nothing, I left home at 16, and didn't want to think about 'home', so it was only after she died a few years ago and I realised she never hit me in front of my dad, not once, the beatings were our 'little secret'. Also the character nurse Bendy, I was close to crying when she broke down cause hubby landed on her ass. I've got a friend, who I really care about, she was abused, it's a miracle she's still alive, she's so reckless about her own safety, similar response to abuse, everyone calls her the town slut, she sells herself for pennies, its breaks my heart - we are friends although she only rings me when she wants something, we've both got habits but mine is more under control (now and I'm older), I just try to let her know I care about her and she's a lovely person - and she doesn't have to 'do' anything (although she's so damaged I actually thinks she'd find that easier). I'm often trying to get her to sort a script (methadone) so at least she wouldn't have to raise money every day but, she almost did it but no. Sorry I'm typing about how sad I feel, for myself but also this girl I care about. Moral Orel really touched me.
@@lambadajewo.4143 thank you. I'm in a pretty good place. But the girl, well, she's 'dating' someone I introduced her to, not sure I did him a favour tbh
"Numb" is one of my favorite episodes of Season 3, and possibly the whole show. From the intro montage that introduced me to "No Children" by The Mountain Goats, to the end credits, it was a wonderful piece of psychological drama.
I don’t really think any adult in moralton deserves a happy ending other than Putty(who actually did change for the better), nurse Bendy(Who was treated like a sexual plaything but genuinely wanted a family. She may be a nymphomaniac but that’s a symptom of sexual abuse from when she was 14), the teacher that Creepler raped, and maybe Dr. Potterswheel(who seconded Putty’s taking of responsibility of misleading Orel). It sucks the way her family treated her but if childhood trauma doesn’t excuse Clay, then it can’t excuse Bloberta even if she’s midtone grey and not black morally. They deserve each other, this isn’t a defense of Clay but let’s not be morally parsimonious and excuse things because hey at least she isn’t a raging alcoholic who shot her kid.
@@StrategicGamesEtc Yee, I didn’t add Stephanie because I see her just as other do, as one of the few unambiguously good people in Moralton and it was kind of a given.
I really want to know what happened to Clay between "Trigger" and "Help". It seemed like he had gotten himself on track to a better life, well, before Bloberta dragged him down.
Remember when they were mocking Reverend putty? Bloberta and Clay actually doing something together that was happy? I wish there was something more. That there were some calm and sunny days in the apocalypse that was bloberta and clay
So THATS where the new challenger approaching meme comes from- also amazing video! Your view on the characters and the show is the most real I have seen thus far. Keep up the good work!
I was mildly disappointed in Bloberta when I found out she was responsible for Clay's alcoholism n coercing him into their marriage. However, that does not mean Clay is off the hook. He's still responsible for his actions. With that being said, Bloberta wasn't a good person but she wasn't the worst person either.
@@kitten_582 True. Compared to my initial post, I started to realize in a realistic sense Clay still had time to make up his mind not to go along with the wedding especially to someone he barely knew but he still did, so you can't really put it all on Bloberta in that regard.
Personally I see Bloberta as a victim of circumstance. Did she ruin Clay's life? Absolutely, she did, yes. But the pressure women face to "do all the things" (get a husband, have children) especially in a Christian fundamentalist context is enormous. While men have some of this pressure as well, the aren't nearly as scrutinised. See the difference in terms: men are (perpetual) bachelors - women are spinsters. One implies that there isn't anything wrong but might actually be just a choice while the other suggests some flaw; be it moral, physical, mental, personal or whatever else. This gets only exasperated by the view of women as "property", first their father's then their husband's. Bloberta did come from an abusive household. She had been the victim. She likely was looking for any escape she could. Add to that the peer pressure and you have a recipe for disaster. That isn't to say that she had any right to ruin Clay's life. Absolutely not. Being the victim in one regard doesn't mean a person can't be an abuser to someone else. But everything considered I sympathize with her a lot more than with Clay. Especially because Clay was kind of a piece of shit even before he met Bloberta. So yeah. I'll just headcanon the happy ending for Bloberta actually happened and she healed and became a better mother to her three children which is part why we saw Orel being so comparatively well adjusted as an adult. Thank you and Good Night.
All Bloberta and Clay wanted to do is be happy. Bloberta wanted a happy home life so she chose someone she thought was a great choice and made him dependent on her. Then for Clay after they got married he became more of a full blown alcoholic and made an active effort to hurt his family. These two turned to spite and anger because they feel hopeless. I will say I'm glad their sons got better adjusted though.
I think Clay hurt his family not intentionally but he’s that poison he said he was in Sacrifice. In Beforel Orel, Clay never taught Orel anything because he was too afraid (as he told his father cuz he wasn’t worth it) but once Clay had to step up to the task of raising Orel/being more involved in the family everything Clay touched/did made things worse.
Oh! And my parents… They each ruined each-other’s lives. My mother was Sandy Duncan’s roommate in College, and was a Drama Major, who was already getting some fairly respectable parts in College. My Father… Shared Head of the Family Law firm and Oil Company, and CFO of some of the largest Resource Extraction (Oil and Gold Mining) companies on Earth. Had they not married (met at a Lake Party at my family’s lake), my mother would have gone on to Broadway and Hollywood (and likely gone insane faster), while my father would not have been saddled with four kids that my mother forced on him, because she converted to Catholicism to chase Mexican guys she seemed to have a thing for (more insanity) and would thus have likely become a member of the “Filthy Rich” in the process (especially since his brother died young from his own dysfunctions).
I think Bloberta’s neutral towards Block and even didn’t notice Shapey was accidentally taken by the Posabules and treated Block the same way. I also am in the middle with Bloberta as she sort of tries to be a good mother to Orel and give him the motherly love she never received and Help showed the vulnerable side to her character and why she was so obsessed with cleanliness to the point she literally cleaned cleaning products. But the same episode also showed that it was her fault Clay became a raging alcoholic by tricking him into marrying her. Clay himself is no angel but it did seem like he was trying to become a better person after the prank he pulled on his parents as a kid killed his mother.
She’s a classic example of “you reap what you sow”. While her upbringing was awful and I can definitely empathize, you are not the byproduct of your abusers narcissistic behavior. There’s always an option C. She just lacked the courage to walk that road
That is fully fucking wrong though. there is absolutely not always an option C. people aren't omnipotent gods with clear understanding of every avenue around them and with perfect insight into the consequences of every action. You are falling for the same toxic american culture of hyper individualism and victim blaming that the show itself was such a critique of. We are first and foremost a product of our environment. We cannot know of a better way if we are not presented with it, we cannot imagine a better role model for our actions than what we have been shown. You think every child soldier simply didn't find an option C? you think every member of a cult just chose to be indoctrinated? What bloberta lacked, what all of moralton lacks, is guidance. is a better example. is a change of circumstances that would allow for a change of personhood. if 'having the courage to walk a better path' was all that was needed, therapists would be motivational speakers. and that even ignores the reality of WHY she didn't have that courage to begin with, and how it was never instilled in her by her very circumstances. and let's be clear---none of this is meant to absolve her. Fundamentally she still need to be held responsible for the shitty things she has done to others, just as her parents are to be held accountable for what they did to make her into what she is, and so on and so forth. But the idea that you are at fault for your shitty character traits just because you are responsible for them is pure insanity.
It's hard to say exactly If bloberta deserved the rotten ending she got being stuck in a loveless marriage with clay. Had we gotten to see her with paper mouth we could have seen her grown into being a better person. As it stands, ehhhhhhh. She can be really irredeemable at times. Particularly in Help in which she essentially forced clay to become helpless and pathetic to manipulate and force him into marrying her so she could have a quick and easy path to happiness. Idk in some ways she kind of knows what she's doing is wrong and keeps doing it and other times doesn't know any better. Though she will occasionally act like she loves Orel she sure doesn't do a whole lot to show it. Only caring for him when it's convenient most of the time. Otherwise she's Neglecting him nonstop and putting her other child shapey in constant harms way.
I showed the episode "Numb" to my gf and she couldn't stop crying, there's something so crude and raw about that episode that really resonated with her and I'm both surprised and terrified at how some stop animation show can manage to make someone feel like that.
Watching this video many times now, I believe even if you take away Clay’s alcohol, I don’t think much will change, he’ll still hate Bloberta, and hate his life
Man, I wish this series would have continued. I kinda wanted to see what they did with Miss Censordoll and her reign of terror over Moralton. I felt like she would've been a pretty interesting to dive into her God complex and her abusive mother, but also she might've been a more "fun" change of pace from all the heavy shit with Clay and his monstrous ways, since at least Censordoll is kinda funny in how over-the-top villainous she was. Do kinda wanna wanna see Bloberta get some sort of happy ending....kinda. Sorta.... I dunno...maybe if she did finally show some kind of remorse towards how she treated Orel and Shapey, then maybe I wouldn't mind her getting a bit of a happy ending than having to be doomed to spend the rest of her life with Clay.
Honestly your views of Bloberta are the same as mine. In one episode I feel sorry for her but in an episode like Help, I think she brought it on herself. Keep up the Morel Oral videos because I like seeing more attention being given to this great show.
Again… Morel Orel is about the reality of what is roughly 30% of the US Population. While I have already mentioned my Mother’s side of the Family, and their “insanity,” my Father’s side of the Family has its own special Hell, even though they aren’t “crazy,” they are instead Corrupt as all hell. Dad’s side of the Family is Wealthy. Not “Filthy Rich,” but “rich enough to break most rules and get away with it.” Had he not been the object of his mother’s obsessions (who was also trapped in a Marriage, but had her Lover move into the Estate and live with my Father and Uncle as their “Cousin.”). My Grandfather was actually fond of his wife, but due to her living at a time when Women couldn’t have bank accounts, among other things, he kind of held her hostage. He is a kind of tragic figure, like Orel’s Mother’s Father. Wealthy, powerful… But with no means of getting the thing he wanted most: His wife’s affections. Moral Orel is, again, just a depiction of ALL of the Dysfunctions in the USA, mixed-into-one-small-town.
In a show filled with tragic characters, I think Bloberta is one of the most tragic. All of her issues stem from her upbringing where she was essentially deemed worthless and not deserving of even basic respect or attention. Does this excuse her actions as a wife and mother? Absolutely not. But it contextualizes them and you understand where she's coming from. I don't think Bloberta is sympathetic or unsympathetic, she just is who she is, for better or worse. I honestly think her staying with Clay is the most realistic ending for her. Whether it's the ending she deserves or not is kind of irrelevant, especially considering this show often (not always) takes the pessimistic approach.
Bloberta Puppington is basically to Clay, what Edmund Kemper's mother was to him; An overlooked, and hidden monster that is truly responsible for all the wrongs that happened following. (I fully hold her responsible for the downward of Clay's character, she made him, an alcoholic, and tricked him into marrying him, which he did not want, basically forcing herself onto him.)
4:19 no i disagree with this. She is really worry about Orel getting bullied (only when the bully is getting worse), she just said "all of his clothes got dirty" and "i have to double my detergen" so she can get Clay's attention.
i really wanted to see Orel interact with his extended family from his moms side and Bloberta to get more interactions with her mom and sibling and see where there lives have taken them scene they've been apart that would have been a good addition to her character arc if they decided to put it in the show it
After the kids were grown, blo should have packed them bags, took half the account and left! Clay would have been happy with the old bitty (sensordoll).
Clay's not the cause of Bloberta's unhappiness. Clay is the result of her unhappiness and her desperation to fill a hole in her life. Clay isn't any saint himself, but somewhere after he left home he became a decent guy until Bloberta got him to start drinking and manipulated him to think he needs her
@@MontiRock she’s not a saint and Clay was a grown ass man when he met her, who despite her repeated demands for him to chill with the drinking kept on doing it for years, and never actually sought to improve himself.
I acknowledge Bloberta isn’t the best person. She’s far from it. However, I can’t hate her, like at all, because if she didn’t do what she did, then Orel wouldn’t have been born. And just like Clay, Orel coming to be is the only genuinely honorable thing about her.
I've never actually watched Moral Orel but this was so fascinating and I appreciate how it was easy to understand despite me never watching the show :)
I just realized that Bloberta made clay into the image of her father which is the only person who loved her then so maybe clay would love her (with alcohol glasses) but in the end alcohol affects everyone differently and he became this person
well yeah but I think Bloberta's father loved her outside the influence of alcohol. He loved her period, he just also had substance abuse issues to go along with it. Clay didn't start off loving Bloberta. He arguably never did and alcohol didn't change that.
@@blobertasbleach4545 true , still sucks for her in the end. I wonder if clay never drank , would he be better?
@@ferochoosss328 I had this stinky feeling that Clay would have ended up the same if he didn’t resolves his issues first.
The alcohol wasn’t the root of the problem, all of his unresolved baggage (from his childhood), the horrible society he lives in which encouragers his awful behavior and his awful coping mechanism are more to blame.
Who is to say that he would drink later in life?
I do belong his marriage with bloberta was one of the worst things that could have had happened to him.
Clay is a person who was meant to stay single until he dealt with all of his baggage (but again same thing goes to bloberta)
@@ferochoosss328 " Oh he doesn't change Orel! That's just his true nature coming out"
@@FIREDOGG999 I get really sad and confused with this statement. Cuz clay clearly was trying to be a decent person and fight his deamons in silence(before bloberta). It just now the booze makes it easier to dwell in the sorrow and act out. Like she acts just as bad with out the booze.
Nobody loves Bloberta. She is often overly blamed for Clay's actions, ignoring his own childhood, and treating her like the ultimate manipulator. She is both just as trapped and as culpable as he is. Clay is no innocent victim.
She created the monster, but clay is still the monster of the story
@@Zero-di3cf Yep, like Dr. Frankenstein
@@Zero-di3cf She didn't create the monster he is. He did that himself
@@deandreclark280 i made this comment before I saw the clay video, bastered was a monster since he was born
What about their childhood? It made them broken from the start and they never fixed it.
Wow, now I understand why Shapey and Block became a cop and fireman. It was the positive influence of Papermouth! I imagine he would have been more active as a stepfather and that would have inspired them to become responsible adults.
I'm honestly surprised Shapey can even function considering all the dangerous stuff he was allowed to do to himself and I honestly thought he had Downs Syndrome by the way he acted.
Yeah…I rly wish we could have seen that story unfold. tis a shame it got canceled before we got to explore that :(
Omg! That’s a great connection. I really hope there’s a reboot or something like that so we can see that come into fruition.
I'll just zoink this idea. Thanks
It could be rebellion on the parts of the two boys. Their parents lived on rock bottom due to the chaos brought about by the poor discipline. Shapey and Block may have realized this and sought self-discipline in order for them to become successful.
Orel may have been a factor, too. Being the elder brother he may have been a natural leader who made up for Clay's deficiencies. Clay and Orel were polar opposites; Orel was wise like Socrates while Clay was an immature man child.
She wasn't concerned about raising her detergent budget, she used the detergent budget to convince her husband to intervene with Orel. She was concerned about having to do extra laundry.
Not really, no. She was pretty fine with Orel getting beaten up beforehand. She saw him all bloody a ton. Besides, one of the main themes of the show is how she doesn’t care, and has checked out to everything.
@@HispanicToddendale I kinda figured that she thought orel was ok due to how cheerful he was with his beatings.
She still should have run away with the cop.
@@smb-c3po Yeah but one wonders if that would of lasted.
@@bcrunch4232 What you mean?
The more videos on Moral Oral come out, the more I realize how much of a crime it was that the show got cancelled. This really deserved to have a proper ending.
An hbomax movie with the animation of beforel orel would be a godsend
Thought the show ended perfectly.
@@Emery101 it was intended to last for five seasons, but Adult Swim canned it as soon it started to get "too dark."
@@ironnoah9461 adult swim: for adults only
A show: gets dark
AS: oop cancelled
Meanwhile Family Guy
AS: accepts the dark humor and gore and all
Moral Orel walked so Bojack Horseman could run
Bloberta as a whole reminds me a little of Beatrice Horseman: Someone the audience does not like as a person but understands as a character.
They both grew up in abusive households.
Both latched onto the first man they could find who turn out to be horrible as people and husbands.
Both found their life choices were horrible mistakes.
Both have at least one kid they did not want.
Both do nothing substantial to actually leave the unhappy marriage for one reason or another (like not believing in divorce).
And both end up condemned for eternal misery in the end.
And, sure, we might WANT to feel sympathy for them, but their actions and behavior around innocent parties make it almost impossible. Beatrice took her anger and frustration out on Bojack, Bloberta is so neglectful to the point of endangering her children.
Personally, I always thought Beatrice was more like Clay, but I see it.
@@thebowiththemost119 I mean, we could argue that too. They are both people who suffered from somewhat similar issues growing up, but where they differ is Clay was a certified narcissist from a young age (either being born that way or due to his mother's influence), whereas Beatrice suffered from a lack of support through no real fault of her own.
@@frankielovejoy9928 I think why I associate Beatrice with Clay more is because they have the common theme of loss of innocence.
Both of them had episodes that explored their childhood when they both lost their innocence. With Clay, it was his mother passing because of his prank and his father hating him. With Beatrice, it’s the loss of her brother, the lobotomy of her mother, and her father burning her doll.
Also, they both made their children go through the same “Loss of Innocence”. With Beatrice repeated abuse and mistreatment throughout Bojacks childhood, and with Clay when he shoots Orel in the leg and Orel says “I hate you”.
Personally I feel for her. I can comfortably say I relate. The biggest difference is that I choose not to reproduce. I went through it and I'd rather the line and with me. It's not like I don't want kids, because I do. I just don't want to be that kind of parent. (Also my mIL says I should not reproduce because I'll pass on ADHD)
@@sockruhtease your mother in law can go shove it tbh
Bloberta: is insanely cold and negligent towards her children
Moral Orel fandom: I sleep
Bloberta: convinces a grown man to drink one time
Moral Orel fandom: *real shit*
YEAH 💀
literally she didn't "make him an alcoholic" that's really not how that works...
She is still a bad influence though. She was a factor for Clay's crappiness
@@baronreeves9232 and clay was a factor in HER crappiness. its mutual. his problems are much bigger than her, its unfair and absolutely untrue to clay's character to pin his alcoholism on bloberta
Tbf promising to love a man she knows she dislikes for reputation is pretty bad
@@lilalulaberry they wouldn't have even met if she wasn't such manipulator what?
"Hate her"
"Still hate her"
"Tolerrrr-hate her"
"...Tolerate her!"
Honestly, Clay needed to be single. Everything he touched went south, and that only got worse when he met Bloberta. Bloberta needed to not latch onto the first new face she saw. If she hadn't manipulated him into marrying her, maybe she wouldn't have felt as numb. Clay would have still been a shell of a person, but at least he wouldn't have been dragging a whole family down with him.
This was a wonderful video and i can't wait to see more!
While true.. Then Orel. Would not have been born.. And you seen the kind of family the one he ends up with had.. It would have meant those two never would have encountered each other as well.. Something I find funny at least.
That.. Said.. I do not think Bloberta would have been a good mother regardless. I get the feeling that even if she had found the best person for herself to be with at the start, she would have still ended up bad situation of her own making. Something that is getting ignored here as well as.. These characters made their own choices. At least SOME good, slightly distantly from them, but at least SOME good, came about with them being together.
Bloberta tried being with Daniel, that didnt work. She tried with the doc, that didn't work. Maybe it's commentary on how married/divorced women are undesirable to men, but no one wants Bloberta. Not even her family.
@@UndyingZombie it breaks my heart how she begged Clay to help her.
Clay probably would have been happier, he still would have been broken but his life probably would have been a lot more normal, he probably wouldn't have become the mayor, he might have actually come to grips with his sexuality, he would have continued to not drink, and probably just become one of those door to door missionaries.
Bloberta would have probably been better off and found someone she could actually be with, or at least better then Clay turned out to be.
she’s the one forcing to clay marry
Imagine the emotional journey if this show had 5 long seasons with a natural build up to the ending we got.
Ikr
It was gonna be, but mike lazzo canceled it after the 3rd season.
I realized she literally has the same backstory as my own mother. Alot of the older generations are like this couple and i don't know how to feel about that.
The boomer generation fucked a LOT of families up and created so many lasting effects.
generational trauma is terrible and yet tragically common it’s hard to break the cycle
The nuclear family is often seen as the ideal but in reality it destroys many people who are forced into it.
@@sunshinesmith3388 No its not im living proof of it too
We live in a society
I read somewhere once that when Oral’s grandfather died in the 4th season the creator envisioned, she was actually gonna turn sympathetic to Oral. Really would’ve loved to see that.
too bad the show got cancelled.
Where did u get this info?
In that scene in Numb where she breaks down, I think she was crying because of how she’s trapped not only herself but Orel in this hellish life with Clay. Nothing she did to make Clay better worked.
ok just a minute in but....Clay is NOT the thing that broke Bloberta. He's only a part of it. Her family doesn't value her in the slightest, Censordoll didn't value her, Daniel and Puddy and Quentin didn't value her. No. One. Values. Her.
That's what broke her. She has no one who genuinely needs and loves her. If your real answer is "Clay Puddington", you're wrong.
No one but Orel. But she's so broken that I don't think she can see that despite it being right in front of her.
Except her children who she neglects because she hates having to care for them. This is why they say you can't love anyone if you can't love yourself. Because people who are empty inside are really not capable of caring deeply about others, they are just desperately chasing whatever they think will make them not empty anymore.
Yeah, I feel like boiling it down to one thing that 'broke' her is far too simplistic of a way of looking at things, and saying that that one this was Clay feels ignorant and shortsighted. There's so much that makes a person, and while yes, something can be the straw that broke the camels back, I don't think that's the case with Bloberta. She was unhappy for awhile before Clay, and that was for many reasons, and it was that unhappiness that led in to her decision to get with Clay in the first place. It was a slow build up for her to get where she is now, but she made her bed and is now lying in it.
@@OldTimeyDragon I don't understand why people are defending her. This show is entirely her fault. Clay was a ticking time bomb sure, but it was Bloberta's rush to marry literally any man she could that broke her. She didn't love Clay. Like many girls she was approaching 30, everyone around her was getting married and it drove her nuts. She tricked Clay and when Clay realized what had happened, it was already too late. That's what fueled his alcoholism. This lesson is all too real and it's why it hits so close to home. I tell every guy I meet, 27-33 year old women are virtually undateable and should be avoided like the Plague.
@@ZeroX7649 EXACTLY! While I feel clays trauma most definitely contributed to how violent he could be, Bloberta most definitely took advantage of him. Made him drunk and forced the idea of marriage then got mad when they weren’t the perfect husband and wife.
Idk but something about Bloberta breaking down in tears outside of Orels room breaks something in me. It's like it all clicks in her head, she didn't just get herself stuck in this hell, she got her son's in it too.
I really don’t get the “she made clay an alcholic” thing. It looks like she wanted him to drink to loosen him up when they just met. He just put 150% into it and never stopped. He made himself an alcoholic.
That’s like saying “oh you have a healthy person a burger, and they started gorging and gained weight, so you made them obese”.
You should have never given Squidward that first Krabby Patty. Just look at him now...
Yeah, but she heavily influenced it. She pushed him multiple times! When they were repeatedly getting multiple drinks she kept him going. She was just trying to make him like her father, an alcoholic. Then tricked him and moving him towards marrying her, which he never wanted to do which made him depressed and drink more. The father had a choice to continue drinking, but she started his downward spiral.
@@Prest414 He was already a shitty person before he started drinking though, looking at his childhood. Alcohol amplifies all of his horrible qualities, but they were never truly gone even before he got hooked.
@@navisakura7374 We don’t know much about Clay when she married him. He was a kid when he did all that stuff, he seemed much better.
Granted he was the one who overindulged and drinking became and escape for him but she should’ve never even forced him to drink. Clay loved the read books, talk about god and drink apple juice. Bloberta took advantage of him
Great observation on Bloberta.
Bloberta also inherited her mom's bad habit of spoiling her youngest child. She really ruined Clay's life and the another reason for marrying him was because her friends were getting married, but she didn't. She wanted to be accepted by her friends; however, her friends' marriages ended badly. Bloberta and Clay's marriage is horrible. She married him for nothing. She also wanted to escape her home life and she was desperate; however, her marriage was worse off than ever. She did her mom a favor by leaving the family. She can't run away from her problems.
She got Clay to become alcoholic. She wanted Clay to be like her father since her father was the only one that ever loved her.
There is also another reason why Bloberta and Clay don't get divorce is 'denial.' Here is what I mean, they were afraid their divorce will ruined their reputation and afraid what the townspeople will think; however, most of the people in Moralton are fully aware their marriage is terrible because Bloberta and Clay really exposed themselves in public and also humiliated themselves in public.
Remember when Orel asked by her married Clay, she really didn't want to tell Orel the truth. When she answers, 'Why Not,' was the same tone she gave on her wedding vows.
When she left Orel's room, she broke down crying. Orel is slowly learning the truth. She knew it was her fault. She didn't confront Clay when Orel got shot.
Honestly, they’re both terrible people who deserve each other.
I don’t think Blobertta is nearly as bad as clay. She didn’t make him an alcoholic, he became one because he hates her and their marriage.
She’s broken who was desperate for love and to fit in because she never did in anything. Her family, her friends, her activities, always the one excluded and pushed away.
Don’t get me wrong, Blobertta is terrible, but it’s not like Clay couldn’t say no to the marriage proposal. She was motherly, doting and helpful, much like his mom.
I don’t think it’s fair to place all the blame on Blobertta, she knew the marriage was only a way to fit into SOMETHING. But now there’s no other feeling for their marriage but hate
@@vinemon Bloberta really didn't think things through at the end. She didn't want to tell Orel the truth. She felt ashamed to tell him. This is what happens when she got married for all the wrong reasons.
I wish she'd just divorced Clay and ended up with Officer Papermouth instead.
@@smb-c3po that would be a good moment, but due to her denial and not wanting to ruined her reputation despite it's already ruined, she can't leave Clay.
The moment she tells Orel the truth is the moment she is taking a big step to finally change.
@@AH-is5yg It takes a big person to do that and break away from the dark hold controlling them.
I think it's ironic that Bloberta ended up with a partner who was in essence an amalgamation of everything that was wrong with her own family.
Like Bloberta's mother, Clay is selfish, verbally abusive, disnissive, and narcissistic.
Like her father, he's weak, and obviously an alcoholic; but both these traits probably came from his own father as well.
Clay was also the favorite (only living) child in his family, and his mother absolutely ruined him, while Blobert grew up with two spoiled siblings. The irony of a golden child marrying a scapegoat is just...wow...
Honestly, I think when it comes to her children (especially Orel), Bloberta cares for them about as much as she's capable of love at this point. At least she doesn't seem to openly despise them, as she does with Clay. She may have been neglectful, especially to Shapey and Block, to the point of not even realizing that they'd been switched, but she's never been overtly cruel toward them.
Truthfully, I think part of the reason she's so distant with her children is because she's probably never been shown any maternal affection herself, any more than she's probably seen a healthy marriage.
Bloberta attempted to make Clay into her father, so affection from him would be a substitute, give her an alternate route to earn his love. Another chance, where she had no competition from mother and siblings. She was chasing a paradox. Love didn't mean anything unless it was coming from her father or a clone of him, but someone like him is incapable of giving it.
It’s her parents not clay that started it all with her. He is a continuation of the problem.
Yes! So this! Bloberta, like many other *male* characters on the show, is a victim of her family. She might have handed Clay his first drink but Clay continued to choose to drink. Clay was perfectly set up to veer towards alcoholism BUT BLOBERTA DIDN'T KNOW THAT. Furthermore, yes, she was using alcohol to self-medicate but she was not alcoholic and therefore could not truly understand the choices of an alcoholic.
@@seungminmakesmestay Its hard to stop once u start drinking. She really made him have his first drink that made I'm spiral. I seen people start being addicted to cigarettes the same way. It is her fault he started. Tho is is up to him to stop. But y stop when ur trapped. She made him feel like marriage was the only option. She made her bed she lays in remember. He could of sad no but she was crying and asking for help. He would of felt like the bad guy and now he is the bad guy. Not saying clay isn't bad but they both are just as bad. Clay was figuring himself out. Bloberta thought she new what she wanted in life. A husband and children. Clay made it clear he didn't or didn't know.
I think Bloberta and Clay are both so at fault for their marital problems that which of them are worse is just not that big an issue in comparison to how bad they both are. If one of them was actually trying by the end of season 3 to fix their marriage, then I'd lean more towards them, but neither of them are. By the end of season 3, they have both completely given up on the marriage. Could one of them alone fix their marriage? Of course not, it would take both, but someone has to be the first, and neither of them have any interest in stepping up. I think at the end of the day, Clay and Bloberta are both in a bed of their own making, kept their by their own choices. In the words of Galinda "They deserve eachother".
hand in unlovable hand
Omg Wicked reference
@@Quackervoltz Yep. :D Glad you caught it. :D
makes sense why Shapey became a policeman following in his stepfathers footsteps
But in the end of Moral Orel there is a picture of Clay and Bloberta together in the photo, so Shapey became an officer but not because of Officer Papermouth, as Clay and Bloberta forever stayed together in a painful marriage
@@lordwoody8352They were meant to break up though so I’m assuming for the flashforward that was the backstory implied
I think the reason why she shows some love towards Orel and tolerates him, as opposed to Shapey, comes down to who is the biological father. Orel reminds her of Clay before the alcohol- innocent, naïve, and devoted to God. My guess why she ignores him most of the time is because she fears that if she interacts with him any more than needed he will end up like Clay, an abusive alcoholic. Shapey is a constant reminder that she used was for one purpose and it was directed to someone else. I would say that what Stopframe did to her would be the same as your crush singing to you a romantic song and asking for your input only for them to use the same song on your friend/family member. Also, the reason why she gives Shapey all those things is probably to get rid off him, she cares about her image so it’s not like she could get an abortion, use plan B, or try to get a miscarriage since she is devoted to God but Shapey having an “accident” makes it a tragedy. Where the burden of blame is put on Shapey “being too adventurous, curious, a free spirit and a risk taker” and not on her being a terrible mother or not being a devote follower of God.
Agreed
I feel like Clay and Bloberta had to get together to have Orel. He’s moralton’s salvation, a person who is truly good.
That's honestly scary, it reminds of Deep Space Nine and finding out the only Reason Benjamin Sisko's parents got together was because the Wormhole Aliens needed him to be born so they possessed his mother and forced her into having sex with his father to conceive Benjamin. The only difference is after Benjamin was born his mother left and that was the end of it.
just got to watching this and i love these videos sm, moral orel is such a hidden gem
also i disagree that she only cared that orel was getting bullied because she had to wash his clothes. if you can see when she first sees his clothes she has some genuine concern for him, and tries to show that concern to clay, but hes not listening. he only listens when she tells him she has to up her detergent budget, because she knows clay cares more about money than orel.
That’s right.
I won't say I'm very deep into the 'Moral Orel' fandom but Bloberta and Clay come off as true villains. Broken individuals seated deep in their own heads, which results in them mistreating everyone around - almost exclusively their children who are innocent in all of it. The best ending would be that Moral and his brothers are taken in by CPS while the senior Puppingtons die of an OD in their shame if they're unwilling to seek help for their faults.
Fun fact: one of the episodes before the show got cancelled was that Bloberta and Officer Papermouth would fall in love, so perhaps they were planning some sort of redemption arc for her (maybe as some sort of parallel to Clay, Bloberta takes the first opportunity to fix her life while her "husband" actively sinks even further into his vices)
7:36 In all fairness, Bloberta had no clue she'd make Clay into an alcoholic... and her manipulation consisted SOLELY of lying to Clay; she didn't purposely or even knowingly exploit his budding addiction.
I kind of disagree with this. She didn’t just manipulate him by lying to Clay, she used his moral weakness against him to convince him to drink. By the point they were at the bar, she knew he was religious and didn’t drink, and she told him that Jesus drank a lot, which made him less leery about it. She also stays with him as he gets drunk and leers at other women, when she knew he didn’t want to get married and probably should have assumed marrying someone with Clay’s behavior wouldn’t be a great idea.
Did she know she’d make Clay become the way he was? Probably not, though her own experience with alcohol maybe should have colored her view. But she did show that she could be very manipulative in pushing a hungover man to marry her to get away from her domineering and neglectful family.
This makes you question about a lot of those marriages back in the day like the 40s to 50s the 30s etc how many of those couples truly loved each other once the honeymoon ended so many times we hear about the old time marriages how couples stayed to together for 40 to 50 years yes that is true but majority of those couples in my honest opinion stop loving each other decades ago and they was forced to stay with one another because of stable and comfortably. I was work retirement home and this pretty old lady said her and husband after 30 plus years of marriage she said the love wasn't there and the kids was grown and out of the house and they had grandkids so they decided to get divorce they still care for each other and they still love each other by their not in love with each other and she said something that will stick to me forever she said "many of those marriages lasted because the women got too old to move on".
I feel like you’re missing the point with the episode “help”, and bloberta in general. She never manipulated clay or made him into a bad person. She communicated to her father through alcohol, so she thought one drink help clay and her talk as well. Clay’s own actions and his continued drinking are his own fault, as he says himself: “You really helped me out of my shell”. Furthermore, when clay’s head hit the ground, he was reminded of that feeling of losing his mother, how: “no one has picked my head up like that in a long time”. Clay willingly married bloberta. Even if he didn’t want to get married at first, he saw bloberta as filling in something he lost when he was a child.
On the other side of the coin, Bloberta wanted an escape from her neglectful and abusive life, and she saw that through clay. The part of the episode when she was holding clay’s head and begged the word “help” while almost crying was her begging for a way out of her miserable life. Despite herself seeing and knowing clay was not the right person to marry to help her, she still did it because anything would be better than her old life, as she says herself: “why not”.
Both bloberta and clay are horrible people and tragic characters that had only gotten married in order to fill a void in their life, but had instead resulted in them creating an even bigger void. However, bloberta particularly hits a cord with me because of how she only ever wanted to feel genuinely loved by someone, to the point where she poisoned herself and others in order to try and get that.
I couldn’t agree more, you worded this perfectly 👌
I've always liked the imperfect ending that Moral Orel ended up with. Not everything got wrapped up nicely with a bow on top, and that's how it is sometimes. I've always found any continuation/sequel of a story where things get better from the imperfect a little forced and this would fall into that category.
Q- Can make a good show about characters you hate?
A- Yes! Moral Oral is good, but his parrents are terrible!
Her being with officer papermouth is something i am interested to see. I condemn cheating but it seems that Bloberta really just want s someone to love her.
Perhaps she realising that Papermouth genuinely cares and loves her would be the tipping point that'd make her finally get herself divorced from Clay
I love moral oral, because it was a VERY acurate way to describe me growing up in my religon, but oddly enough in a more lighter tone ( I know right?" I have a friend who saw me grow through the stages, and she knew me then. So when Moral Oral was out everyone else in group didn't believe me, I would ask her to PLEASE TELL THEM. and she was like "That is more accurate than you think. This girl was Moral, and it was akward, awful and painful to watch." because she knew my dad. EVERY ADULT KNEW MY DAD! and they chose to ignore what was happening. I've come a long way, I got better. I had to do most myself, but I'm there.
As bad as I feel for her, I don't think a character like her deserves an easy out from a situation she had a hand in
I think I have more sympathy for bloberta than the average fan, I think she's a pretty bad mother, but I don't agree at all that she turned Clay into an alcoholic. She may have pressured Clay to drink that night, but Clay is still responsible for himself. He's not a child when this occurred, he was a grown man who should've controlled himself. He's also responsible for every drink he had after that night too. To put that on bloberta is kinda fucked up and almost victim blaming in my opinion.
I also understand why she didn't jump ship despite the early on red flags. She was in a neglectful, abusive home and for her, the only way out was marriage. (Doesnt seem like there's a whole lot of options for making your own money as a woman in moralton). She also has no idea of what real love looks like and has no self esteem, so how is she supposed to know to not settle for him?
I don't think any of this excuses the horrible ways she neglects her children, but I just can't hate her. I mainly just feel sad for her. Really wish we could've seen her get atleast a better ending then what she got.
Edit: formatting lol
They both had ample opportunities to jump ship before they got married.
I don't think it's wrong to blame Bloberta for pressuring Clay into trying Alcohol, but it is only half the story. It was wrong for Bloberta to tempt Clay into doing something which went against his conscience, and it was wrong of Clay to give in. Bloberta is not responsible for Clay drinking, but she is responsible for pressuring him to do so, which is worse.
Bloberta is responsible for 2 ways in my opinion
1. When blobberta knows that Clay isn't a good man she still went on to marry him despite red flags
2. Blobberta shouldn't probably forced Clay into Alcohol cause once a person like Clay seeking answers and closure and introduced in alcohol, promise i tell you it was bad.
@@StrategicGamesEtc I kind of agree, it was 100% wrong the way she manipulated and pressured Clay into drinking.
Still every drink Clay had that night and his behavior towards his family, specially Orel after he married her were still his choice. He was an adult he could have stopped drinking, he could have become a better father or he could have had left all together (which would have been better for everyone tbh).
Clay was always a broken person because of the way his family treated him and I think the alcohol and his eventual marriage with Bloberta made his issues exponentially worse but they weren’t the source nor the root of the problem.
Same with Bloberta, both Clay and Bloberta’s home life and each other helped turn themselves into who they are but each other presence weren’t the only factor nor the root of their problem and it doesn’t take away from both of them being adults who chose that life to live in.
@@paperbag0018 no, addiction isn't simple has given up. Try opium and tell me of your experience after
@@toliniewilliams6562 nobody said it was simple to give up? but he didn’t even make an effort. he could have controlled the drinking before it evolved into an addiction but he didn’t
Clay and Bloberta are in a classical tragedy of a marriage. They're doomed to an unhappy life entirely because of their own choices and who they are as people. Their suffering could end at any time by their own actions, but their own fatal flaws prevent them from doing what would save them.
It's beautifully crafted from a writing standpoint.
You do feel bad for her with what she's went through and being with someone as awful as Clay, but you also realize she brought some of it on herself.
I want all the characters to have gotten a happy ending, even Clay. As horrible as he, Bloberta and alot of the cast are, alot of it is down to their respective traumas, miserable lives and suffocating community they're stuck in. They all have the potential to be happy, good people, but many of them had the deck stacked against them from the start. Clay is the most despicable person on the show but even he has a sympathetic backstory with his traumatic upbringing that basically screwed him up for life. Bloberta just set his already fallen house of cards on fire.
I don’t know if the last episode would have been so effective if everyone had a happy ending. What makes Orel’s ending so touching is that, yes, everyone in Moralton has traumas, but he managed to not become a victim of them or build a family with them, and that’s pretty hard to do. Orel changing and finding happiness means more when we see his parents still unwilling to do likewise.
@@C.V317 Oh yes. I totally agree if everyone got a happy ending the final scene would have been much less impactful. Seeing Orel overcome such a toxic, loveless, abusive family despite all the odds against him doing so is genuinely cathartic. It would be less meaningful if everyone got a happy ending.
That said I mainly feel bad for Clay and Bloberta because they were both trapped by the society they were born and raised into. Once they were married they both realised that and had no means to escape.
Orel was lucky to get out while he could. I think the marriage was the nail in the coffin for his parents ever being happy.
personally, I disagree with the "bloberta bad because of what she did to clay". her neglect is by far the worst trait and what actually makes her abusive.
if you look at her family and her upbringing, how her relationship with clay started is understandable---- bad, yes, but actually understandable. when you're raised in a christian religion as a woman your worth is almost synonymous with being a wife and mother. she was just following the blueprint, if by manipulative means. and clay being an alcoholic is more to do with him just being an alcoholic and his own twisted coping mechanisms and circumstance. yeah, she introduced him to it or whatever, but its an obvious nod to her father and her trying to achieve 'family' like any good god fearing woman should, or like something freudian or whatever.
your tangent about bloberta's marriage being her fault was extremely off-putting and weird to me. moral orel is first and foremost a satiric commentary of christianity, and in christianity family/marriage is ultimately number one. these are real experiences people can have, I remember being taught in church (mormon, not necessarily christian) as a girl never to say no to dates and dances, and that its normal to marry as soon as you can. this is something encouraged throughout your entire life as a woman in religion, and the peer pressure in that episode was palpable.
yes, bloberta could have "gotten out while she had the chance" but that rhetoric is inevitably harmful when applied.
where was clays autonomy when you were talking about that? I can go into great detail about why he would agree to marry her (deleted a paragraph) and how he was definitely manipulated into it as well, but if we're playing the victim-blaming-game we should recognize that a marriage takes two.
bloberta is not purely a victim of her circumstances, her coercion of clay was bad and her neglect is near irredeemable, but her circumstances are definitely informed by the fact that being a woman raised in religion is inherently damaging and can very much set you up to break.
anyways, this is a good video I really agree with a lot of it! i love your content, looking forward to more moral orel videos!!!
Very well said
*"being a woman raised in religion is inherently damaging and can very much set you up to break."*
fuck. i felt that in my core. shit. I kinda feel more for her now. reminded me just how fucked i woulda stayed if I hadnt left god behind. i coulda ended up like her, had my family and friends pressured me (i lucked out in that i got the "sex is bad boys are bad dont rush ever" side of it instead of the "marriage is everything to a god fearing woman you'd best give me grandkids" treatment)
i dont think people realize just how deep that damage goes
OP should pin this
Y'all weak.
I'm very glad you brought up the specific ways Christian fundamentalism affects women since it isn't touched on as much in the show. You're taught that your whole value as a person comes down to how men view you and your relations to them. It's hard to fully relate to unless you were subjugated to similar teachings. This is what makes her so sympathetic to me despite her very shitty decisions.
i read somewhere that the problem with getting what you want is you're really just getting what you thought you wanted.
I've only discovered Moral Orel recently and, ohhh, it cuts - I grew up with a Christian mother, who I pretty much hated, I'd get beaten for nothing, I left home at 16, and didn't want to think about 'home', so it was only after she died a few years ago and I realised she never hit me in front of my dad, not once, the beatings were our 'little secret'. Also the character nurse Bendy, I was close to crying when she broke down cause hubby landed on her ass. I've got a friend, who I really care about, she was abused, it's a miracle she's still alive, she's so reckless about her own safety, similar response to abuse, everyone calls her the town slut, she sells herself for pennies, its breaks my heart - we are friends although she only rings me when she wants something, we've both got habits but mine is more under control (now and I'm older), I just try to let her know I care about her and she's a lovely person - and she doesn't have to 'do' anything (although she's so damaged I actually thinks she'd find that easier). I'm often trying to get her to sort a script (methadone) so at least she wouldn't have to raise money every day but, she almost did it but no. Sorry I'm typing about how sad I feel, for myself but also this girl I care about. Moral Orel really touched me.
Hope both you and her get better soon
@@lambadajewo.4143 thank you. I'm in a pretty good place. But the girl, well, she's 'dating' someone I introduced her to, not sure I did him a favour tbh
"Numb" is one of my favorite episodes of Season 3, and possibly the whole show. From the intro montage that introduced me to "No Children" by The Mountain Goats, to the end credits, it was a wonderful piece of psychological drama.
I don’t really think any adult in moralton deserves a happy ending other than Putty(who actually did change for the better), nurse Bendy(Who was treated like a sexual plaything but genuinely wanted a family. She may be a nymphomaniac but that’s a symptom of sexual abuse from when she was 14), the teacher that Creepler raped, and maybe Dr. Potterswheel(who seconded Putty’s taking of responsibility of misleading Orel). It sucks the way her family treated her but if childhood trauma doesn’t excuse Clay, then it can’t excuse Bloberta even if she’s midtone grey and not black morally. They deserve each other, this isn’t a defense of Clay but let’s not be morally parsimonious and excuse things because hey at least she isn’t a raging alcoholic who shot her kid.
Yeah. Stephanie's pretty good too, though we don't get into too much of her character beyond how it relates to some more prominent ones.
I’d argue Florence deserved one as well. She was actually supposed to get one if the show kept going though.
@@StrategicGamesEtc Yee, I didn’t add Stephanie because I see her just as other do, as one of the few unambiguously good people in Moralton and it was kind of a given.
@@lufsolitaire5351 Ah. I assumed it was an unintentional oversight.
Jesus, I don't want Dr Potterwheel to get a happy ending when he killed his wife and enjoys the pain of his victims. Oh wait, I mean his patients
I really want to know what happened to Clay between "Trigger" and "Help". It seemed like he had gotten himself on track to a better life, well, before Bloberta dragged him down.
I love this video essay on one of my new favorite characters so thank you for making this, I love it so much.
Bloberta being the middle child answers a LOT of questions
Used to watch this show a lot when I was younger and your videos have brought back a lot of locked away memories (good memories) keep ‘em up 👌🏾
Remember when they were mocking Reverend putty? Bloberta and Clay actually doing something together that was happy? I wish there was something more. That there were some calm and sunny days in the apocalypse that was bloberta and clay
So THATS where the new challenger approaching meme comes from- also amazing video! Your view on the characters and the show is the most real I have seen thus far. Keep up the good work!
I was mildly disappointed in Bloberta when I found out she was responsible for Clay's alcoholism n coercing him into their marriage.
However, that does not mean Clay is off the hook. He's still responsible for his actions.
With that being said, Bloberta wasn't a good person but she wasn't the worst person either.
You really can't cohers a stranger you've known for one night into marriage
@@kitten_582 True. Compared to my initial post, I started to realize in a realistic sense Clay still had time to make up his mind not to go along with the wedding especially to someone he barely knew but he still did, so you can't really put it all on Bloberta in that regard.
Personally I see Bloberta as a victim of circumstance. Did she ruin Clay's life? Absolutely, she did, yes. But the pressure women face to "do all the things" (get a husband, have children) especially in a Christian fundamentalist context is enormous. While men have some of this pressure as well, the aren't nearly as scrutinised. See the difference in terms: men are (perpetual) bachelors - women are spinsters. One implies that there isn't anything wrong but might actually be just a choice while the other suggests some flaw; be it moral, physical, mental, personal or whatever else. This gets only exasperated by the view of women as "property", first their father's then their husband's.
Bloberta did come from an abusive household. She had been the victim. She likely was looking for any escape she could. Add to that the peer pressure and you have a recipe for disaster. That isn't to say that she had any right to ruin Clay's life. Absolutely not. Being the victim in one regard doesn't mean a person can't be an abuser to someone else. But everything considered I sympathize with her a lot more than with Clay. Especially because Clay was kind of a piece of shit even before he met Bloberta.
So yeah. I'll just headcanon the happy ending for Bloberta actually happened and she healed and became a better mother to her three children which is part why we saw Orel being so comparatively well adjusted as an adult.
Thank you and Good Night.
Good video. I'm really looking forward to your video on Clay. He's one of my favourite characters in all of animation. I love hating him.
All Bloberta and Clay wanted to do is be happy. Bloberta wanted a happy home life so she chose someone she thought was a great choice and made him dependent on her. Then for Clay after they got married he became more of a full blown alcoholic and made an active effort to hurt his family. These two turned to spite and anger because they feel hopeless. I will say I'm glad their sons got better adjusted though.
I think Clay hurt his family not intentionally but he’s that poison he said he was in Sacrifice. In Beforel Orel, Clay never taught Orel anything because he was too afraid (as he told his father cuz he wasn’t worth it) but once Clay had to step up to the task of raising Orel/being more involved in the family everything Clay touched/did made things worse.
She girlbossed too close to the sun
forgot to gatekeep
Oh!
And my parents… They each ruined each-other’s lives.
My mother was Sandy Duncan’s roommate in College, and was a Drama Major, who was already getting some fairly respectable parts in College.
My Father… Shared Head of the Family Law firm and Oil Company, and CFO of some of the largest Resource Extraction (Oil and Gold Mining) companies on Earth.
Had they not married (met at a Lake Party at my family’s lake), my mother would have gone on to Broadway and Hollywood (and likely gone insane faster), while my father would not have been saddled with four kids that my mother forced on him, because she converted to Catholicism to chase Mexican guys she seemed to have a thing for (more insanity) and would thus have likely become a member of the “Filthy Rich” in the process (especially since his brother died young from his own dysfunctions).
the creator did confirm that after the events of the Christmas episode Bloberta divorced clay and married officer papermouth.
I think a huge part of the 'cleaning thing is that she's basically trying to erase the evidence of her house being lived in.
I think Bloberta’s neutral towards Block and even didn’t notice Shapey was accidentally taken by the Posabules and treated Block the same way. I also am in the middle with Bloberta as she sort of tries to be a good mother to Orel and give him the motherly love she never received and Help showed the vulnerable side to her character and why she was so obsessed with cleanliness to the point she literally cleaned cleaning products. But the same episode also showed that it was her fault Clay became a raging alcoholic by tricking him into marrying her. Clay himself is no angel but it did seem like he was trying to become a better person after the prank he pulled on his parents as a kid killed his mother.
It's truly interesting how Bloberta's father's physique very much resembles Clay's.
She’s a classic example of “you reap what you sow”. While her upbringing was awful and I can definitely empathize, you are not the byproduct of your abusers narcissistic behavior. There’s always an option C. She just lacked the courage to walk that road
That is fully fucking wrong though. there is absolutely not always an option C.
people aren't omnipotent gods with clear understanding of every avenue around them and with perfect insight into the consequences of every action.
You are falling for the same toxic american culture of hyper individualism and victim blaming that the show itself was such a critique of.
We are first and foremost a product of our environment. We cannot know of a better way if we are not presented with it, we cannot imagine a better role model for our actions than what we have been shown.
You think every child soldier simply didn't find an option C? you think every member of a cult just chose to be indoctrinated?
What bloberta lacked, what all of moralton lacks, is guidance. is a better example. is a change of circumstances that would allow for a change of personhood.
if 'having the courage to walk a better path' was all that was needed, therapists would be motivational speakers. and that even ignores the reality of WHY she didn't have that courage to begin with, and how it was never instilled in her by her very circumstances.
and let's be clear---none of this is meant to absolve her.
Fundamentally she still need to be held responsible for the shitty things she has done to others, just as her parents are to be held accountable for what they did to make her into what she is, and so on and so forth. But the idea that you are at fault for your shitty character traits just because you are responsible for them is pure insanity.
@@badflamer Tl;DR. Also don’t care. Nice blogpost though twitter warrior
@@keith9129 sure. Be sad
@@badflamer wow that's actually a really good argument u made me look at another side that's really nuce😊😊
I love how we all just accepted Block into the Puppington family and nobody questions it (just like in the show)
It's hard to say exactly If bloberta deserved the rotten ending she got being stuck in a loveless marriage with clay. Had we gotten to see her with paper mouth we could have seen her grown into being a better person. As it stands, ehhhhhhh. She can be really irredeemable at times. Particularly in Help in which she essentially forced clay to become helpless and pathetic to manipulate and force him into marrying her so she could have a quick and easy path to happiness. Idk in some ways she kind of knows what she's doing is wrong and keeps doing it and other times doesn't know any better. Though she will occasionally act like she loves Orel she sure doesn't do a whole lot to show it. Only caring for him when it's convenient most of the time. Otherwise she's Neglecting him nonstop and putting her other child shapey in constant harms way.
I showed the episode "Numb" to my gf and she couldn't stop crying, there's something so crude and raw about that episode that really resonated with her and I'm both surprised and terrified at how some stop animation show can manage to make someone feel like that.
I’m glad that Oral had a happy ending
YEESSS I LOVE UR MORAL OREL VIDEOS
Watching this video many times now, I believe even if you take away Clay’s alcohol, I don’t think much will change, he’ll still hate Bloberta, and hate his life
Man, I wish this series would have continued.
I kinda wanted to see what they did with Miss Censordoll and her reign of terror over Moralton. I felt like she would've been a pretty interesting to dive into her God complex and her abusive mother, but also she might've been a more "fun" change of pace from all the heavy shit with Clay and his monstrous ways, since at least Censordoll is kinda funny in how over-the-top villainous she was.
Do kinda wanna wanna see Bloberta get some sort of happy ending....kinda. Sorta....
I dunno...maybe if she did finally show some kind of remorse towards how she treated Orel and Shapey, then maybe I wouldn't mind her getting a bit of a happy ending than having to be doomed to spend the rest of her life with Clay.
love your music choice for the background!!
Bloberta belongs with Officer Papermouth, she could finally be happy and become a better mother.
That’s me on one hand. On the other Clay and Blobs are a match made in hell and I wouldn’t have it any other way
Honestly your views of Bloberta are the same as mine. In one episode I feel sorry for her but in an episode like Help, I think she brought it on herself. Keep up the Morel Oral videos because I like seeing more attention being given to this great show.
Again…
Morel Orel is about the reality of what is roughly 30% of the US Population.
While I have already mentioned my Mother’s side of the Family, and their “insanity,” my Father’s side of the Family has its own special Hell, even though they aren’t “crazy,” they are instead Corrupt as all hell.
Dad’s side of the Family is Wealthy. Not “Filthy Rich,” but “rich enough to break most rules and get away with it.”
Had he not been the object of his mother’s obsessions (who was also trapped in a Marriage, but had her Lover move into the Estate and live with my Father and Uncle as their “Cousin.”). My Grandfather was actually fond of his wife, but due to her living at a time when Women couldn’t have bank accounts, among other things, he kind of held her hostage.
He is a kind of tragic figure, like Orel’s Mother’s Father. Wealthy, powerful… But with no means of getting the thing he wanted most: His wife’s affections.
Moral Orel is, again, just a depiction of ALL of the Dysfunctions in the USA, mixed-into-one-small-town.
Your folks background is depressing. :(
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Hugely.
the use of neros day at disneyland music here made my jaw drop. insane. thank you.
Welcome to Moralton, where the godfearing teach you that hell is just other people.
In a show filled with tragic characters, I think Bloberta is one of the most tragic. All of her issues stem from her upbringing where she was essentially deemed worthless and not deserving of even basic respect or attention. Does this excuse her actions as a wife and mother? Absolutely not. But it contextualizes them and you understand where she's coming from. I don't think Bloberta is sympathetic or unsympathetic, she just is who she is, for better or worse. I honestly think her staying with Clay is the most realistic ending for her. Whether it's the ending she deserves or not is kind of irrelevant, especially considering this show often (not always) takes the pessimistic approach.
i've been binging these vids and i absolutely love that Nero's day at disneyland song, underrated banger
Clay and Bloberta: Hate each other
Orel: Loves both his parents through seasons 1 and 2 (well minus episode 19 and 20)
Bloberta Puppington is basically to Clay, what Edmund Kemper's mother was to him; An overlooked, and hidden monster that is truly responsible for all the wrongs that happened following. (I fully hold her responsible for the downward of Clay's character, she made him, an alcoholic, and tricked him into marrying him, which he did not want, basically forcing herself onto him.)
i absolutely adore bloberta and her character
I always thought she was in a hell of her own making. Because she trapped Clay and turned him into a drunk. So he punishes her for it everyday.
Hence the lyric, "You are going down with me, hand in unlovable hand."
1:03 bear lol she's cleaning a bear when u say that clever
Bloburta is the reason clay drinks
4:19 no i disagree with this. She is really worry about Orel getting bullied (only when the bully is getting worse), she just said "all of his clothes got dirty" and "i have to double my detergen" so she can get Clay's attention.
i really wanted to see Orel interact with his extended family from his moms side and Bloberta to get more interactions with her mom and sibling and see where there lives have taken them scene they've been apart that would have been a good addition to her character arc if they decided to put it in the show it
Love how you got Lavender Town music playing there. XD
you instantly made me love your video by playing Lost in Bonerland, favorite song ❤️
My Kings, you don't need to stay single, you just don't need to get married.
Jesus fuck, just mess with people you like and have the capacity to love. Why do the straights make loving someone sound like a chore?
i noticed nero’s day at disneyland in the soundtrack so i instantly liked the video
Wow.. NDAD on background, haven't heard her in quite some time...
After the kids were grown, blo should have packed them bags, took half the account and left! Clay would have been happy with the old bitty (sensordoll).
Clay's not the cause of Bloberta's unhappiness. Clay is the result of her unhappiness and her desperation to fill a hole in her life. Clay isn't any saint himself, but somewhere after he left home he became a decent guy until Bloberta got him to start drinking and manipulated him to think he needs her
You seriously think it's ALL her fault that Clay became a man who shoots his own son in the leg and feels no remorse?
@@blossomentrails3398 nobody's saying that. Don't act like she's a saint because she's a woman.
@@MontiRock she’s not a saint and Clay was a grown ass man when he met her, who despite her repeated demands for him to chill with the drinking kept on doing it for years, and never actually sought to improve himself.
Imagine what would we have gotten if all 5 sessions were made...
Im glad Moral at least got a good ending...
I acknowledge Bloberta isn’t the best person. She’s far from it. However, I can’t hate her, like at all, because if she didn’t do what she did, then Orel wouldn’t have been born.
And just like Clay, Orel coming to be is the only genuinely honorable thing about her.
I've never actually watched Moral Orel but this was so fascinating and I appreciate how it was easy to understand despite me never watching the show :)
Honestly her not getting a happy ending is great .
Agreed. She made this nightmare herself. Now she's trapped in it.
Bloberta manipulated clay into marrying her. Remember “help” but clays not innocent.
HATE HER, HATE her, Hate her, hate her, TOLERATE HER.
Bloberta doesn't deserve a happy ending.
Nor does Clay
I like that your playing Lost in Bonerland in the background
I believe Clay and Bloberta deserve each other as they are bad because of each other and unhappy because of each other.
I was kinda surprised when I heard Lost in Bonerland in this video