I think Bazil and Sol are going to vote Mae as the imposter and attempt to vent her out the airlock, leading to Sol and Mae splitting and flying two separate parts of the same ship, and a space chase insues, also Vernestra lands on Khofar.
I like @MysticTroll's prediction. I like the story inversion idea, very cool idea. Execution, not so great so far but I'm trying to reserve my view until it's all over. Longer term, I see Venestra whipping everyone into shape, cleaning up the mess and implementing the cover up that runs right up to Mundi looking at Windu, saying, "but the Sith have been extinct for a millenia." Unspoken implication: they're extinct Mace, REMEMBER?! (sorry, can't italicise). Having said that, I've been barking up the wrong tree predictuon-wise for years now. Not that I care. My life is not defined by ny SW head canon.
Sol absolutely knows it’s Mae. He didn’t call her Osha, and he almost always uses her name when he speaks to her, and he asked where her sister is, not where Mae is. He never uses any names in that scene with Mae.
@@DaNewWaveLee Couldn’t he read her mind just like Qimir was afraid of Sol doing in an earlier episode? Sol doesn’t want Osha to find out his secret, so I can see him taking that liberty of reading her mind when she appears again to see her frame of mind only to realize it’s Mae.
Non Canon - Canon? I would expect a lazy excuse from a lazy writer. And as far as " The Keeper of the Lore!" Well Pablo is about as trustworthy as a Greedy Cop in Gotham. Good stuff Meg.
@@kurtw778 I’m just saying this isn’t the show anyone expected nor probs did Disney when they announced a sith series taking a real look and being focused around the sith. This show just doesn’t feel like it. This feels like a mainly jedi with a some sith on the side. It was billed as a lot of sith with a lil everything else on the side.
Honestly, I try to like every Star Wars show that comes out but there's just something about this one, it feels like the people in charge either don't know Star Wars or don't like it, and they're using it for something else.
Exactly. Reminds me, I'm guessing most SW fans had no idea what cortosis was before Ep5 (I sure didn't). Cortosis would have been a fantastic way to allow Mae to kill Indara in ep1, and a great introduction to its existence for most fan. But that would've required competent plotting.
@@furrygecko Setting up Cortosis earlier on would have been smart for sure. Also, setting up Sol as more of a main character to "focus on" like Headland is now saying, ya know starting with episode one LOL
Ki Adi Mundi should have had a line where he said, "The rumors people are spreading about my birthday are false." Sol should have given evil eye looks in the shadows every time no one was watching him, so we knew he was shifty. Then in ep 5, he should have turned to the camera and winked letting us know he knew it was Mae. That's good writing.
They need more than 1 person overseeing lore. At least 3 people. There is so much information that you wouldn’t want something to slip through the cracks.
... So I, SWT, and most of his viewers on the watch party were right at the end. There is no deep loor, super interesting reason for Ki-Adi-Mundi to be in this show. Lesley "felt like it, asked Pablo and did it ... " . This was our beef with Ki-Adi being here, his presence shows how much the show-runners know or care of the lore, and their pure amateurish writing skills.
The switch up doesn’t even make sense…. osha watched Qimir kill everyone in cold blood including her friend from childhood YORD. WHY would she be inticed to the dark side? Even if Sol had a dark past he trained her in the light side ways of the Jedi
Obvious misdirection. Why would a show's writer and producer reveal or even hint at what's really going on? I think she's just trolling fans, especially "toxic" ones. Just because the Jedi aren't perfect and their actions end up hurting others doesn't mean that they're dark side users, just naive, smug and arrogant, convinced that they and they alone have found the proper way to use the force and protect the galaxy. So if she's hinting at and if this show is about anything, it's that, that the Jedi aren't perfect and infallible and make mistakes, sometimes horrible ones with massive consequences. But we knew that already,? So this just elaborates on it and show how deep the "rot" goes. They fell not because of the Sith, but because of their hubris and blindness. Pride goeth before a fall and the road to hell is paved with good intentions and all that. I don't think that Sol is evil or deceptive in the sense that Sith are deceptive. I think that he meant well, whatever he did, and realizes that he made a huge mistake and is trying to atone for and reverse it. What I think happened was that the two mysterious robed figures in E3 where Qimir when he was a young apprentice and his master, whoever it was. They came for the twins, and when they saw that the Jedi were about to take one of them, they tried to stop them, there was a massive fight, the witches were killed in the crossfire, the Jedi got away with Osha, Qimir killed his master, and took Mae (which is why she didn't know he had a master).
Yeah g'day, Does anyone really care about anything LesLie says, STOP being an RTD and get a decent coherent story up. Trying to make Quagmire and Dul seem interesting and windswept. Yes, we all agree that Dul is as dodgy as **** pulling the strings of Qaugnire. Which reminds tomorrow when I am out shopping I need to get more gin to watch the next episode. It's a goodnight from you and it's a goodnight from the broken, cantankerous, belligerent, obnoxious, obstinate, obstreperous, cynical Old Fart
lost these writers are lost just gonna be happy when its over and things i think about the show are not being talked about as bad fan behaviour , osha is the first lead i got zero emotional investment in , dont care about may either .
Mundi's statement in episode one never really made much sense. Whether it's the legends discovery of the rule of two through Kibh Jeen 200 years before episode one or the canon depiction with Elzar Mann, they knew the sith had survived and were out there.
Its not like its my faveourite show but I honestly cant remember what everyone dislikes so much about the acolyte... aside from the obvious ire coming from the dude-bros who cant stand 'woke' stuff... Its not the best written story maybe but but by no means close to the worst thing out there and to be honest parts of it is brilliant (sol, qimir, THE fight scene), I honestly struggle to remember anything I silike about it aside from the short episodes which honestly bother me... you wait for a week make a moment for youself and you get 30 minutes of show... barely. That more than anything feels annoying.
It's not ire when you simply don't relate to queer-coding (in a family show), laughable witch chanting, bad acting, ignorance of canon, poor storytelling that telegraphs everything, and shiny-shiny distractions like a meh light show and poor choreography masquerading as a light sabre fight, no, the best light sabre fight ever! That's five good minutes out of 150 - not a great ratio. You know it's bad when the creator has to do an interview with the 'Mary Sue' to 'explain' her art (denying that it's all about queerness), simply to woo back those fans who walked away or had no interest in the first place.
Give tony Gilroy 200 million budget and obi wan. Season 2 or book of boba fett season 2. Old republic as well let him show Kathleen Kennedy how to make star wars content.
Book of Boba Fett just needs to be forgotten and not considered canon. The character in that show was nothing like Boba Fett. Obi-wan's story was so bad it should just be forgotten as well.
I think lesley drops the hints in order to have some redemption for what is an average show. Ive said from the beginning that the story is like a murder mystery movie, and ive always thought sol is key to understanding why he is keen to unit the 2. I don’t think Qimere wouldn’t know the identity of his master, and i believe that is yet to be confirmed or proven although if its Sol id be surprised. Still, I hate to say it, i don’t care really because i think for all the money that was spent im truly disappointed! I’ve recently watched Fallout on prime, everything about it leaves the Acolyte looking more like a Leming. I’ll continue watching because, well, it is watchable. I don’t care what all the fandom thinks, the bibles been rewritten loads of times yet i dont see christians protesting all over the world!
I'm the same only I havnt even been bothered to watch this show, not even pirate it and i'm a passionate starwarrs fan, the Acolyte is the only D+ live action show I've not been bothered to watch. Fallout on the hand I absolutely loved, you can truly see where the money has been spent on that, brings the world of the games alive perfectly, it captures the same feel, look is spot on, like Everything from the games is in there, and it even does the very clever thing, of building on from the games themselves, as a spiritual sort of sequel to them. I loved the Fallout series, amazing how Amazon got that adaptation so right, yet screwed up LOTR ROP so spectacularly.
Idk if you noticed but the first time we've seen a force user decapitate a sith it was a jedi falling to the dark side being egged on by a sith lord, jedi don't usually kill captives, they have a code of honor that's constantly used against them
Due to a protected clause in KK's contract when George signed it over to Bob, she can't be fired from Lucasfilm by the board of Directors, unless she voluntarily steps down
@@GazingTrandoshan Lets not pretend that KK is doing a good job running Lucasfilm okay, Star Wars has been inconsistent at best under her watch and I don't say this as someone who hates Disney or anything.
she should have been let go simply based on how poorly the sequels were managed. imagine having a sequel trilogy with no planning and no trajectory of where its supposed to go. what a mess. she lucked out with that ironclad contract of hers
@@MysticTroll That can't be true. Can you quote the provision? There is no competent lawyer on earth that would miss that, nor any company, incompetent or otherwise, that would agree to that in a 1st contract.
I really don't understand why you guys claim that this show and all these Disney Plus shows are only for fans it's not it's to appeal to new ones as well
It doesn't attract new fans though, we just want a good show this isn't even close, it's just another c-tier show produced by disney that'll be forgotten.
Venestra IRL being Hedland's partner makes me wonder if there's a bigger part to play for her, or it's just nepotism for a bit-part that other actresses are just as capable of.
Venestra is almost certainly going to die. Trailers show her arriving on the forrest world and using her lightsaber. I think she will probably be killed by the as of now unrevealed Sith. Most of the characters in this show have to die for any of it to make sense.
It's pure nepotism, I bet Osha & Mae do "FUUUSION!!" at the end of next episode, and they become ONE BEING, which Leslie's Wifey will play called Masha, no - LesVen, no erm HenderHead yeh... that will be her name, and the character will not be a "Sith" nor will they be a "Jedi" they will just be Balanced Thread, a pure balance of EVERYTHING, and that character will have a lightship/saber/axe/staff everything, that can just transform into anything and they will just defeat EVERYONE in the series in the Finale episode. THE END.
@@Iacon40k he has literally kidnapped mea this episode. The council doesn't know what happens because sol is probably gonna silence her so he doesn't have to stand trial. Obviously they never find out.
Why is Headland laughing at coatimundi appearing in ‘The Acolyte’? She only discovered that contradiction after ‘Star Wars Theory’ mentioned it; we know this because of the subsequent twisting and turning and attempts to brush it off as irrelevant/part of the plan. The only way this show is going to surprise me is if Yoda doesn’t appear.
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Sol? Lol..will be Quimirs father. By process of elimination?! We have two 'asian' humans who Sol ,in the least?? Said he felt'a connection' (or whatever) and..That? Will have somepin to do w Quimirs 'reasons' for being Smilo-ren. What exactly happened? Guess we'll watch react videos to find out. 😊
And they'd be right, unfortunately. My best guess is that the writers are competent, but are being overridden from above and told to write nonsensical shit. It happens a lot in most creative industries.
I understand the issue of spewing blind hate, but it is completely fair to acknowledge that this show has suffered from many instances of bad writing and dialogue.
The only thing that I was excited about in this video was the shout out to Genndy's Clone Wars (which is REAL Star Wars). I think Headland thinks way too highly of herself as a creator and writer and her knowledge of the IP is sub-par. I am watching and have been very drownederwhelmed and that's being generous. It's just a really bad show in every way.
Seems dumb (so far) to stretch Ki-Adi Mundi's age to a lifespan some would consider ... unnatural. There are still 3 more episodes so maybe it will make sense? Or is that what Hedland was laughing about? Seems like it would have been better to just have an ending last episode time skip to Lil Padawan Mundi asking his teacher about legends of the ancient sith and the teacher is one of Vernestra Rwoh's don't tell the jedi high council squad.
🤣🤣🤣 headland "reveals" what anyone with, at least, a third-grade comprehension level had already surmised from her horrible and amateurish story-telling. Leslye Headland's intellect is as sharp as a blunt knife. Thanks for the insider update and apologism, Meg...😉
Mae mission is to assassinated Rwoh...that was entire objective from qimir that both played their part but risky for mae...to the heart of jedi coucil...qimir is part of Nihil clan..but only thing mae don't know...he using her for his vengeance and has no plans for her afterwards that would cause scandal ...a bigger one if succeed killing Rwoh would cause downfall of jedi
The apple doesn't fall far from the tree. 5 sh.... episodes. What do you expect for the next Episodes? Just...nothing. Critical Drinker already speculated about the twist, after Episode 2.
They already said that was not the shows big twist, he guessed a twist they wernt trying to hide lol ??? How you feel about him making scissoring jokes at minors btw
Kennedy should’ve never hired her to take on this show, because she doesn’t understand the Star Wars world. It’s that simple. She was desperate to rescue her career after working for Harvey Weinstein for years, and was willing ton do whatever KK wanted, which was to start some sort of war of the sexes that really didn’t exist in the fandom. It just isn’t;t a thing. I’ve said it before that misogynists and homophobes exits in society and the Star Wars fandom exists as a small part of that same society. So these are societal problems not STar Wars. If Star Wars wasn’t in existence these people in society would still be the same people. Star Wars is about great stories in a fictional galaxy invented by George Lucas, and now being ruined by people who have no idea what rings true in that world and what doesn’t. Hire people who know how to write good stories, not to trigger conflict in the community. All we want are good stories and great shows. They did it with the Mandelorian, and Obi-wan oasis okay to an extent but should’ve been a movie or given the same budget as the Acolyte. I liked Ahsoka as well, and Andor, but this thing we’ve been watching for five weeks or more has been torturous at times, which is a shame as there are some characters in there who could’ve been great for the franchise. They killed Jecki off, of all people. She was the one character that was able to push the case for a second season. I’m not complaining about the acting, which has been good, but the material they have t work with hasn’t;t been great either. Maybe they’ll convince us all in the final three episodes it’s a masterclass in writing Star Wars, but I wouldn’t hold my breath.
Timestamp 7:30 you stated “Mae might go on to become a Jedi apprentice,” Whaaaat? How is that even possible if she’s already murdured multiple Jedi masters? There’s a lot more problems with this show than you’re implying here and fans are definitely unhappy about the writing in The Acolyte.
2:28 Maybe all that what you say there is what Leslie meant by her drawing inspiration from the movie "Fight Club". Because David Fincher said that film is like counter-culture too.
Really dont like Leslye and her SWs vision! Hope Disney wont do the same mistake again and give a project like this to "film students"! SW way more important than someone's carrear!
As a fan I'm absolutely on board with Ki Adi Mundi being placed in this story because of his views in The Phantom Menace. His presence reinforces the fact that Jedi hubris has lead to a fateful ignorance of their impending doom. I believe The Acolyte story is all about how the Sith begin to truly undermine the Jedi Order without them even knowing. It appears that there are two factions emerging in the Jedi Order at this time. The traditionalists who believe that change is dangerous and choose to bury their heads in the sand and perhaps Master Sol is part of a movement that feels the Jedi need to adapt to more radical behaviours to survive. All the while, the Sith pull the strings.
Could not care less. This franchise is on life support as it is. I'm really enjoying the re-release of the legends books especially the X-wing series on unabridged audio. 100% more entertaining and better story writing then this slop.
Headlands idea of what it is to be a Jedi is just lame and empty… force pushing and sword fighting. Then you can’t kill the man you’re dueling after you disarm him?
The Acolyte is garbage. Nothing makes any sense. Whatever the twist is, I genuinely don't give a s**t because everything is so pathetic. There can be no surprise twist if the storytelling is absolute toilet water.
I guess at that galaxy a young teenager is ready to follow a master into a dangerous situation, we shouldn't use our values that you are a kid until your 18. I also don't agree that jedi training is brain watching. It was obvious that Sol saw it was was Mae, but I see it as he had her under control if he brought her back. Still though he should looked for Osha. I still think Venestra is the sith master, the most boring character will suprice us in the end
@@kalancosta7650 Stop lying. The agenda is obvious no one's denying it not the show writers, not the fans, no one. On the off chance you don't see it you're the only one and you're blind.
@@kalancosta7650 I don't do requests and I'm not your father. If you can't see what everyone else sees then that's your problem. If you actually didn't know you could look it up in a few minutes , but we both know you're just playing dumb.
If only the writing was good, because the idea of Sol being fake is really interesting. Unfortunately, the entire show just feels all over the place, and makes no sense in many ways.
.... again, if Clone Wars are a part of the canon there is a clear conflict. The Clone Wars episode 1, Joda asks the three clones to put down their helmets, as he is able to see their differences in the force ... I would bet my bottom dollar that Lesley the SW lore wisperer does not know that, and does not know for the existence of shape-shifters.
Headland is either lying about Sol being the intended focus of the show, or is just fucking clueless, because he's absolutely not been the focus of the show.
I love how diverse this is. It's just so badly written. And I am sick to death of these short episodes and seasons. I'm soooooo over Star Wars. A 50 year fan of Star Wars, turned into a hater of the franchise.
I just think it's crazy how they changed Ki Adi Mundi's birth date in real time. I mean they knew he was in it since it's already filmed and being released episode by episode each week. Why not change his Wookipedia information before premiering the show. That was just lazy, tacky and super sus(picious).
It still doesn't make sense because a millennium is 900 years before 'The Acolyte' and I'm sure there were Sith during that period. I'm not going to click on any video claiming that it makes sense and follows canon.
Shows how poorly written the script is, if Headland has to point out key elements of the story. If she us the writer then either SW stories aren't for her, or she can't write mysteries. Either way I will continue watching till the end. I've invested all this time to it
So you’re saying the Jedi brain wash children and put them into situations they aren’t meant to be in… hmm sounds like a certain island she’s not suppose to have knowledge of
I really hope Sol isn’t a secret dark side user. That’d make me sad. Though I do think it’s possible he knoss about the diade and that his motives aren’t as pure as we think.
Leslie laughs at the ki di amundi bad decision because some people laugh to try to make it look like they actually dont care yet on the inside they care. more lies from the write and producer of this show.
Just watching the interviews of the cast before the show dropped i knew this was gonna be a disaster This show had a budget on the same scale as Dune part 2 but the difference is one cast crew is much different compared to the other
That would help sol kills mae and returns to save ocha returns and both sol and ocha die and the real sith shows how he or she helps light the corny fire
I believe there should be more morally ambiguous characters in Star Wars but doing that with the sith and jedi doesn't work, their dynamic should remain black and white with no grey area.
I absolutely agree, like this show would have been way more interesting if it was just focused on completely new and different kind of "Force Users" somewhere in the Galaxy, and show their ideals and how they view and follow the force.
@@RaikenXion Sorry for the late reply, but yes that premise is much better than the show we actually got, the sith could still be a part of it but in a role where their behind the scenes manipulating this new force religion to turn to the darkside or perhaps even destroy it from within because they view it as a threat, you could have the jedi show up during the aftermath to investigate the situation but with little evidence to work with the jedi are unable to determine what exactly happened.
@@buck342443 Yes Exactly! Now that's spot on. 👍 This is what the writers of Kenobi should have also done too for the Reva Character. Kennedy should really have put her money where he mouth is and actually give Reva her own show, a series all about how Reva was taken during Order 66, and brainwashed/trained to be a "Inquisitor" and such a show could have given us some real insight into the life of Inquisitors; how they're always trying to earn Vader's admiration and respect, but he never once cares about any of them, just sees them as a tool to control and use. And Reva starts to see this, or always felt this and secretly plotted, patiently training, learning all she can from Vader her mentor, to one day become skilled and strong enough to defeat him. Hiding her true feelings and intentions from him. Such a show could have taken us across many parts of the Galaxy, as we follow Vader and his pupils, tracking down various Jedi, slaughtering them in really cool "Highlander" style lightsaber duels, where Vader takes them on, sometimes he rarely even take on whole villages who try to help protect a random Jedi, and fight him and he just kills them all. And we're seeing Reva close by, learning but horrified, badly conflicted too. And then the finale episode, being about that scene, where she tries to kill him and fails miserably, but DONT do that stupid crap having him literally stab her and she survives. Instead she fights him and he toys with her, then he like badly slashes her, or cuts off her arm or something and she narrowly escapes and has to hide out from him; making her sympathetic. This is what they actually should have done, because Fans would have absolutely watched such a series as that and would have really liked the Reva character I think. This would have also freed up the Kenobi series, that was already choc full of too many characters, and allowed more proper insight and screentime dedicated to purely Kenobi and Vader as it should have been. I just hate Kathy Kennedy, every decision she makes is wrong and just spectacularly bad, because she doesn't understand starwars lore; but then has the utter cheek to attack and blame us fans when we reject this crap she keeps interfering with. I agree the Sith should have been the main focus of the acolyte, its what all fans who were optimistic for the show at first thought and expected it would be about.
I think, at this point, if you’re correct (and I don’t think you are) it would be just more terrible writing. Sol has not been displayed as having any nefarious tendencies by the show. Sure, ep. 5 did suggest that there is more to Sol than we’ve seen, but I’d guess that has more to do with the events back at the witches coven. Qimir’s statements seem to suggest that he knows something about Sol, and Sol did react to Qimir’s statements rather negatively. It’s obvious there is more to the events with the witch coven than we’ve been shown. Seems more like Sol has a guilty conscience. Who knows, though? Mae sure has changed her motivation out of nowhere several times now. When last we saw her she knocked her sister out, impersonating her and leaving her stranded with a Sith running amuck. Previously, she was going to turn herself into the Jedi and betray her master all because OSHA is alive and THAT’S what she cared about (until she doesn’t). Mae is not even a character. It’s just terrible writing. Who knows? Maybe Sol, Venestra and Ki-Adi-Mundi are all part of a secret Sith ring operating within the Jedi Order. When things can just happen for no actual reason it’s just bad writing. The very fact that the idea of Sol being a Sith or something like that is is even possible at this point shows that the writing is terrible and inconsistent. And if anything like that proves true we can all question why Sol didn’t kill Qimir when he absolutely could have. Honestly, I think this is grasping at straws with the hope that the story is better than it actually is.
Hey Meg. I think the fight club theory is debunked. At the end of episode three, young May goes to the tree so it shows both young sisters alive and part after May supposed of death.
i feel like its not that they knew when the last sith was and went against that, i think no one at disney realized it was a problem just like obiwan knowing leia
that sol knows it's mae makes sense, what's much less clear is why he just leaves osha. if he's not literally collaborating with qimir (which, seems unlikely but not impossible) then it's hard to explain just dipping like that. the writers clearly have ambition, but they have their work cut out in terms of resolving these plot threads.
Nobody with any Star Wars knowledge cares about her cutting her hair with a saber. It's the stupidity that she has a magic tattoo on her face that for some reason she thinks Sol won't see it. Fact of the matter is they probably forgot about it and/or removed it. It's just as stupid as Osha impersonating Mae earlier in the series. Lucasfilm just forgot about the mark/tattoo.
The only thing I cared about is how overly dramatic she was when she did it. Who the fuck was she performing for? It was like Black Widow doing her superhero pose when no one is around.
The show is far from great but it isn't bad either. The reason why it's mostly diehard starwars fans (not all of them) who hate this show and have such a bias view about it is because the show is completely contradicting the information in legends especially the information in the darth plaguise novel. The darth plaguise novel by the way is one of the best novels i have read however its not cannon and unfortunately this is something that people cannot come to grips with.
I am not a die hard Star Wars fan. I don't know as much as most fans of the books and movies do. But I agree. It's pretty good in my opinion. Each of the last 2 episodes have improved on the previous. Let's hope that trends continues.
I don't know much about star wars at all. I think it is mostly people who are movie buffs and know a bit about screen writing and storytelling who have a hard time with it. I think those that don't think those things matter and children are those who like it
@@Scatty666 Yes the acting is a bit off and yes the dialogue at times is not the best but to say something is wrong with the storytelling? Please! Look a lot of people when they heard that the acolyte was going to focus on the Sith taught the show was going to focus on Darth Plaguise and his master Darth Tenebrous and that it would focus on a lot of the stuff from legends. The stuff from legends by the way are really really good. Unfortunately, they are not cannon. The hate for this show started even before the first episode aired. And it started after it was evident that it wasn't going to focus on the stuff from legends.
@@azharuddinzahaur7683 ok, let's agree to disagree if you think this is a great script and that they are doing the great job telling this story. My point was that it is not just hard core star wars fans who dislike this show. I never read any books and don't know or care much about lore and stuff
I couldn’t make it past the first two episodes. The writing was so weird. It reminded me a lot of the nonsense in wheel of time. Things happening for no reason, plot devices being introduced, then going unused, major lore issues being created for a weird, short term gain. I don’t understand why these projects are going to people with no experience.
The answer: execs think they're geniuses. When we're lucky, the exec will actually have some sense of what makes a good story. But more often, we get people who think they know it, but in reality have horrible instincts for it, and choose people with equally horrible instincts.
I felt that whatever Sol did was the mystery early on. It comes up often. The thing is it might not even be as crazy as we think and could be perceived as worse from another’s point of view. I think he slaughtered the witches or had something to do with it, but I would think the Jedi would perceive them as dark side users and justify his actions. From the twins pov that would definitely be evil and I don’t think Qimir really cares, but uses it as a way to manipulate both twins. I could also see that decision causing problems between the Jedi there and bring deep regrets. Remember this show is supposed to be from the Sith/dark side pov so something that we’d expect from Jedi they would definitely see differently. It is probably something more, but I was just thinking this during Episode 3.
What are your predictions for episode 6? 👇❤
Guess I should finish episode 1. Been watching The Boys
I think Bazil and Sol are going to vote Mae as the imposter and attempt to vent her out the airlock, leading to Sol and Mae splitting and flying two separate parts of the same ship, and a space chase insues, also Vernestra lands on Khofar.
Filling in the blanks from episode 3
That it will have bad writing
I like @MysticTroll's prediction. I like the story inversion idea, very cool idea. Execution, not so great so far but I'm trying to reserve my view until it's all over.
Longer term, I see Venestra whipping everyone into shape, cleaning up the mess and implementing the cover up that runs right up to Mundi looking at Windu, saying, "but the Sith have been extinct for a millenia." Unspoken implication: they're extinct Mace, REMEMBER?! (sorry, can't italicise).
Having said that, I've been barking up the wrong tree predictuon-wise for years now. Not that I care. My life is not defined by ny SW head canon.
Asking Pablo Hidalgo for advice on canon is like asking the Spanish Inquisition for advice on human rights.
Sol absolutely knows it’s Mae. He didn’t call her Osha, and he almost always uses her name when he speaks to her, and he asked where her sister is, not where Mae is. He never uses any names in that scene with Mae.
Sol will only know if he looks at her forehead.
@@DaNewWaveLee Couldn’t he read her mind just like Qimir was afraid of Sol doing in an earlier episode? Sol doesn’t want Osha to find out his secret, so I can see him taking that liberty of reading her mind when she appears again to see her frame of mind only to realize it’s Mae.
@@vanessa98769 well qimir got in their head threw sol abd msot of the jedi out of balance so he could be off his gane until he calms down
@@Andalaeknir86 I agree, but I think that’s also why he would just go ahead and get into his former padawan’s head when she reappears.
He said "ohhhshit".
"ID RATHER GET BENT BY A WOOKIE, THAN HAVE TO WATCH THE AZHOLE-ITE"
-LORD VADER
Non Canon - Canon? I would expect a lazy excuse from a lazy writer. And as far as " The Keeper of the Lore!" Well Pablo is about as trustworthy as a Greedy Cop in Gotham. Good stuff Meg.
Imagine if they made a sith show truly about the sith
Qimir has been in every episode, no? He's Sith.
@@kurtw778 I’m just saying this isn’t the show anyone expected nor probs did Disney when they announced a sith series taking a real look and being focused around the sith. This show just doesn’t feel like it. This feels like a mainly jedi with a some sith on the side. It was billed as a lot of sith with a lil everything else on the side.
@@kurtw778I know you’re not trying to defend this garbage
Imagine if you had enough motivation to make your own work of art instead of sitting behind a desk trashing something you do t have to watch.
Why are you here though?
I really hate how she has to imply sol knows because people need to be told this when I think the context clues and hints were enough
Boys are too focused on calling the show woke smh
but still, why would he leave osha?
Makes no sense because if that is the case he has no clue where OSHA is and he just doesn’t care😂 dumb logic
@@nah7656exactly
I think it's pretty clear from the show both Qimir and Sol are not fooled. I think Headland is being blunt because she is trying to generate interest.
Honestly, I try to like every Star Wars show that comes out but there's just something about this one, it feels like the people in charge either don't know Star Wars or don't like it, and they're using it for something else.
I'm a barber and she didn't touch her bangs so the coverage of her forehead didn't change
I'm so glad Headland gave an interview to explain things that should have been explained with better writing in her show.
She's just worried she won't get picked to direct 'Frozen 3.'
Exactly. Reminds me, I'm guessing most SW fans had no idea what cortosis was before Ep5 (I sure didn't). Cortosis would have been a fantastic way to allow Mae to kill Indara in ep1, and a great introduction to its existence for most fan. But that would've required competent plotting.
@@furrygecko Setting up Cortosis earlier on would have been smart for sure. Also, setting up Sol as more of a main character to "focus on" like Headland is now saying, ya know starting with episode one LOL
Ki Adi Mundi should have had a line where he said, "The rumors people are spreading about my birthday are false."
Sol should have given evil eye looks in the shadows every time no one was watching him, so we knew he was shifty. Then in ep 5, he should have turned to the camera and winked letting us know he knew it was Mae.
That's good writing.
The show's not even finished. It's not bad writing that we don't know things before they've happened
She can laugh about the fans calling her but she’s quick to tell you sol knows! Becuase the story points are horrible
They need more than 1 person overseeing lore. At least 3 people. There is so much information that you wouldn’t want something to slip through the cracks.
5:34 - *”strange uses”* shows Rey looking at a lightsaber with her mouth open lmao.
Aaaaaa... Good catch, eh? I think?
Imagine actually still watching this
I actually feel sorry for you Meg. That they’re releasing garbage like this, yet you soldier on like a trooper.
Yeah🤷🏼♂️I thought "Why wouldn't he sense her identity thru The Force" right off! 🤓😎✌🏼
... So I, SWT, and most of his viewers on the watch party were right at the end. There is no deep loor, super interesting reason for Ki-Adi-Mundi to be in this show. Lesley "felt like it, asked Pablo and did it ... " . This was our beef with Ki-Adi being here, his presence shows how much the show-runners know or care of the lore, and their pure amateurish writing skills.
The switch up doesn’t even make sense…. osha watched Qimir kill everyone in cold blood including her friend from childhood YORD. WHY would she be inticed to the dark side? Even if Sol had a dark past he trained her in the light side ways of the Jedi
Obvious misdirection. Why would a show's writer and producer reveal or even hint at what's really going on? I think she's just trolling fans, especially "toxic" ones. Just because the Jedi aren't perfect and their actions end up hurting others doesn't mean that they're dark side users, just naive, smug and arrogant, convinced that they and they alone have found the proper way to use the force and protect the galaxy.
So if she's hinting at and if this show is about anything, it's that, that the Jedi aren't perfect and infallible and make mistakes, sometimes horrible ones with massive consequences. But we knew that already,? So this just elaborates on it and show how deep the "rot" goes. They fell not because of the Sith, but because of their hubris and blindness. Pride goeth before a fall and the road to hell is paved with good intentions and all that.
I don't think that Sol is evil or deceptive in the sense that Sith are deceptive. I think that he meant well, whatever he did, and realizes that he made a huge mistake and is trying to atone for and reverse it. What I think happened was that the two mysterious robed figures in E3 where Qimir when he was a young apprentice and his master, whoever it was. They came for the twins, and when they saw that the Jedi were about to take one of them, they tried to stop them, there was a massive fight, the witches were killed in the crossfire, the Jedi got away with Osha, Qimir killed his master, and took Mae (which is why she didn't know he had a master).
Honestly, I can't even care anymore. I'll just finish the series because I began watching it. So much lost potential.
Yeah g'day,
Does anyone really care about anything LesLie says, STOP being an RTD and get a decent coherent story up. Trying to make Quagmire and Dul seem interesting and windswept. Yes, we all agree that Dul is as dodgy as **** pulling the strings of Qaugnire. Which reminds tomorrow when I am out shopping I need to get more gin to watch the next episode.
It's a goodnight from you and it's a goodnight from the broken, cantankerous, belligerent, obnoxious, obstinate, obstreperous, cynical Old Fart
Yea the tattoo would still identify her after the haircut... And the terrible burnt hair smell.
lost these writers are lost just gonna be happy when its over and things i think about the show are not being talked about as bad fan behaviour , osha is the first lead i got zero emotional investment in , dont care about may either .
I don't care. I'm enjoying The Acolyte.
Mundi's statement in episode one never really made much sense. Whether it's the legends discovery of the rule of two through Kibh Jeen 200 years before episode one or the canon depiction with Elzar Mann, they knew the sith had survived and were out there.
I like how they r no white males on the show . Other than thr Jedi academy teacher , master ginger
Its not like its my faveourite show but I honestly cant remember what everyone dislikes so much about the acolyte... aside from the obvious ire coming from the dude-bros who cant stand 'woke' stuff...
Its not the best written story maybe but but by no means close to the worst thing out there and to be honest parts of it is brilliant (sol, qimir, THE fight scene), I honestly struggle to remember anything I silike about it aside from the short episodes which honestly bother me... you wait for a week make a moment for youself and you get 30 minutes of show... barely. That more than anything feels annoying.
It's not ire when you simply don't relate to queer-coding (in a family show), laughable witch chanting, bad acting, ignorance of canon, poor storytelling that telegraphs everything, and shiny-shiny distractions like a meh light show and poor choreography masquerading as a light sabre fight, no, the best light sabre fight ever! That's five good minutes out of 150 - not a great ratio. You know it's bad when the creator has to do an interview with the 'Mary Sue' to 'explain' her art (denying that it's all about queerness), simply to woo back those fans who walked away or had no interest in the first place.
Well her hair smells burn't and she got a big tatoo or brand on her forehead XD.
Give tony Gilroy 200 million budget and obi wan. Season 2 or book of boba fett season 2. Old republic as well let him show Kathleen Kennedy how to make star wars content.
Book of Boba Fett just needs to be forgotten and not considered canon. The character in that show was nothing like Boba Fett. Obi-wan's story was so bad it should just be forgotten as well.
The twins are the worst part of the show
I think lesley drops the hints in order to have some redemption for what is an average show. Ive said from the beginning that the story is like a murder mystery movie, and ive always thought sol is key to understanding why he is keen to unit the 2. I don’t think Qimere wouldn’t know the identity of his master, and i believe that is yet to be confirmed or proven although if its Sol id be surprised. Still, I hate to say it, i don’t care really because i think for all the money that was spent im truly disappointed! I’ve recently watched Fallout on prime, everything about it leaves the Acolyte looking more like a Leming. I’ll continue watching because, well, it is watchable. I don’t care what all the fandom thinks, the bibles been rewritten loads of times yet i dont see christians protesting all over the world!
The fans don't care if things change so long as they're for the better. Everything about this show was poorly thought-out and executed.
I'm the same only I havnt even been bothered to watch this show, not even pirate it and i'm a passionate starwarrs fan, the Acolyte is the only D+ live action show I've not been bothered to watch. Fallout on the hand I absolutely loved, you can truly see where the money has been spent on that, brings the world of the games alive perfectly, it captures the same feel, look is spot on, like Everything from the games is in there, and it even does the very clever thing, of building on from the games themselves, as a spiritual sort of sequel to them. I loved the Fallout series, amazing how Amazon got that adaptation so right, yet screwed up LOTR ROP so spectacularly.
Sol had the Sith at his mercy. He could have had its head … but he just let’s him go?
Not only let him go . Let him pick up a weapon and they were all just standing there waiting for Cue cards 😂
Idk if you noticed but the first time we've seen a force user decapitate a sith it was a jedi falling to the dark side being egged on by a sith lord, jedi don't usually kill captives, they have a code of honor that's constantly used against them
@@mattiascrowe2549 I’ve seen Jedi kill people attacking them that’s for damn sure
@@Shimmy93 sol should have made him a cup of tea while they were at it lol
How does the board of directors and share holders fee about KK making one flop after another
Due to a protected clause in KK's contract when George signed it over to Bob, she can't be fired from Lucasfilm by the board of Directors, unless she voluntarily steps down
How the fuck did Bad Batch even flop lmao
@@GazingTrandoshan Lets not pretend that KK is doing a good job running Lucasfilm okay, Star Wars has been inconsistent at best under her watch and I don't say this as someone who hates Disney or anything.
she should have been let go simply based on how poorly the sequels were managed. imagine having a sequel trilogy with no planning and no trajectory of where its supposed to go. what a mess. she lucked out with that ironclad contract of hers
@@MysticTroll That can't be true. Can you quote the provision? There is no competent lawyer on earth that would miss that, nor any company, incompetent or otherwise, that would agree to that in a 1st contract.
I really don't understand why you guys claim that this show and all these Disney Plus shows are only for fans it's not it's to appeal to new ones as well
It doesn't attract new fans though, we just want a good show this isn't even close, it's just another c-tier show produced by disney that'll be forgotten.
Venestra IRL being Hedland's partner makes me wonder if there's a bigger part to play for her, or it's just nepotism for a bit-part that other actresses are just as capable of.
The nepo is strong with this one.
Venestra is almost certainly going to die. Trailers show her arriving on the forrest world and using her lightsaber. I think she will probably be killed by the as of now unrevealed Sith.
Most of the characters in this show have to die for any of it to make sense.
It's pure nepotism, I bet Osha & Mae do "FUUUSION!!" at the end of next episode, and they become ONE BEING, which Leslie's Wifey will play called Masha, no - LesVen, no erm HenderHead yeh... that will be her name, and the character will not be a "Sith" nor will they be a "Jedi" they will just be Balanced Thread, a pure balance of EVERYTHING, and that character will have a lightship/saber/axe/staff everything, that can just transform into anything and they will just defeat EVERYONE in the series in the Finale episode. THE END.
This series would have been received 100X more positively if it wasn't a weekly release.
This show is so damn dumb😂
Yep. I called it last week that Sol would be the villain. When Qimir called out Sol for not embracing his dark side and hiding himself from Osha.
Remember, not all villains consider themselves to be villainous. Take Anakin for example.
Wait what did you call? I mean he literally said sol has a dark side. That doesn’t make you a genius at all. You’re just discussing the weather
Oh I hope not. I love him as a jedi. Though it would be an interesting twist.
You haven't "called" anything. Sol hasn't been exposed as a villain......yet
@@Iacon40k he has literally kidnapped mea this episode. The council doesn't know what happens because sol is probably gonna silence her so he doesn't have to stand trial. Obviously they never find out.
Why is Headland laughing at coatimundi appearing in ‘The Acolyte’? She only discovered that contradiction after ‘Star Wars Theory’ mentioned it; we know this because of the subsequent twisting and turning and attempts to brush it off as irrelevant/part of the plan. The only way this show is going to surprise me is if Yoda doesn’t appear.
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Sol? Lol..will be Quimirs father. By process of elimination?! We have two 'asian' humans who Sol ,in the least?? Said he felt'a connection' (or whatever) and..That? Will have somepin to do w Quimirs 'reasons' for being Smilo-ren. What exactly happened? Guess we'll watch react videos to find out. 😊
There's no point in speculating. People will just say "The writers aren't that smart, and you're dumb to think otherwise."
They've proven with 5 episodes they aren't good writers... lol
@@idiot_city5444 that's a matter of opinion.
@@idiot_city5444 that's a matter of opinion.
And they'd be right, unfortunately. My best guess is that the writers are competent, but are being overridden from above and told to write nonsensical shit. It happens a lot in most creative industries.
I understand the issue of spewing blind hate, but it is completely fair to acknowledge that this show has suffered from many instances of bad writing and dialogue.
The only thing that I was excited about in this video was the shout out to Genndy's Clone Wars (which is REAL Star Wars). I think Headland thinks way too highly of herself as a creator and writer and her knowledge of the IP is sub-par. I am watching and have been very drownederwhelmed and that's being generous. It's just a really bad show in every way.
I can't take people who care about Ki-Adi Mundi seriously. Like, honestly, who cares? He's such an inconsequential background character.
Seems dumb (so far) to stretch Ki-Adi Mundi's age to a lifespan some would consider ... unnatural. There are still 3 more episodes so maybe it will make sense? Or is that what Hedland was laughing about?
Seems like it would have been better to just have an ending last episode time skip to Lil Padawan Mundi asking his teacher about legends of the ancient sith and the teacher is one of Vernestra Rwoh's don't tell the jedi high council squad.
🤣🤣🤣 headland "reveals" what anyone with, at least, a third-grade comprehension level had already surmised from her horrible and amateurish story-telling. Leslye Headland's intellect is as sharp as a blunt knife. Thanks for the insider update and apologism, Meg...😉
Mae mission is to assassinated Rwoh...that was entire objective from qimir that both played their part but risky for mae...to the heart of jedi coucil...qimir is part of Nihil clan..but only thing mae don't know...he using her for his vengeance and has no plans for her afterwards that would cause scandal ...a bigger one if succeed killing Rwoh would cause downfall of jedi
The apple doesn't fall far from the tree. 5 sh.... episodes. What do you expect for the next Episodes? Just...nothing.
Critical Drinker already speculated about the twist, after Episode 2.
They already said that was not the shows big twist, he guessed a twist they wernt trying to hide lol ??? How you feel about him making scissoring jokes at minors btw
Think for yourself, stop letting others do it for you.
Critical Drinker isn't a very good critic. He's a great rage monetizer, though. I'd feel cheap making a living that way, but it takes all sorts.
@@hoos3014 Thank you for the great advice, I will try to do that. Idiot!
@@M2Mil7er Who care? I just said he already speculated on that way.
Kennedy should’ve never hired her to take on this show, because she doesn’t understand the Star Wars world. It’s that simple. She was desperate to rescue her career after working for Harvey Weinstein for years, and was willing ton do whatever KK wanted, which was to start some sort of war of the sexes that really didn’t exist in the fandom. It just isn’t;t a thing. I’ve said it before that misogynists and homophobes exits in society and the Star Wars fandom exists as a small part of that same society. So these are societal problems not STar Wars. If Star Wars wasn’t in existence these people in society would still be the same people. Star Wars is about great stories in a fictional galaxy invented by George Lucas, and now being ruined by people who have no idea what rings true in that world and what doesn’t. Hire people who know how to write good stories, not to trigger conflict in the community. All we want are good stories and great shows. They did it with the Mandelorian, and Obi-wan oasis okay to an extent but should’ve been a movie or given the same budget as the Acolyte. I liked Ahsoka as well, and Andor, but this thing we’ve been watching for five weeks or more has been torturous at times, which is a shame as there are some characters in there who could’ve been great for the franchise. They killed Jecki off, of all people. She was the one character that was able to push the case for a second season. I’m not complaining about the acting, which has been good, but the material they have t work with hasn’t;t been great either. Maybe they’ll convince us all in the final three episodes it’s a masterclass in writing Star Wars, but I wouldn’t hold my breath.
Timestamp 7:30 you stated “Mae might go on to become a Jedi apprentice,” Whaaaat? How is that even possible if she’s already murdured multiple Jedi masters? There’s a lot more problems with this show than you’re implying here and fans are definitely unhappy about the writing in The Acolyte.
2:28 Maybe all that what you say there is what Leslie meant by her drawing inspiration from the movie "Fight Club". Because David Fincher said that film is like counter-culture too.
Really dont like Leslye and her SWs vision! Hope Disney wont do the same mistake again and give a project like this to "film students"! SW way more important than someone's carrear!
As a fan I'm absolutely on board with Ki Adi Mundi being placed in this story because of his views in The Phantom Menace. His presence reinforces the fact that Jedi hubris has lead to a fateful ignorance of their impending doom. I believe The Acolyte story is all about how the Sith begin to truly undermine the Jedi Order without them even knowing. It appears that there are two factions emerging in the Jedi Order at this time. The traditionalists who believe that change is dangerous and choose to bury their heads in the sand and perhaps Master Sol is part of a movement that feels the Jedi need to adapt to more radical behaviours to survive. All the while, the Sith pull the strings.
Could not care less. This franchise is on life support as it is. I'm really enjoying the re-release of the legends books especially the X-wing series on unabridged audio. 100% more entertaining and better story writing then this slop.
Headlands idea of what it is to be a Jedi is just lame and empty… force pushing and sword fighting. Then you can’t kill the man you’re dueling after you disarm him?
The Acolyte is garbage. Nothing makes any sense. Whatever the twist is, I genuinely don't give a s**t because everything is so pathetic. There can be no surprise twist if the storytelling is absolute toilet water.
I guess at that galaxy a young teenager is ready to follow a master into a dangerous situation, we shouldn't use our values that you are a kid until your 18. I also don't agree that jedi training is brain watching.
It was obvious that Sol saw it was was Mae, but I see it as he had her under control if he brought her back. Still though he should looked for Osha. I still think Venestra is the sith master, the most boring character will suprice us in the end
Leslye Headland had an agenda....that is okay. Still, she has to accept that the audience has a right not to support her vision financially.
Oh yeah what is the agenda? Cuz based on what was actually shown there isn’t one other than a mystery
@@kalancosta7650 Stop lying. The agenda is obvious no one's denying it not the show writers, not the fans, no one. On the off chance you don't see it you're the only one and you're blind.
@@fakenamerodriguez8901 okay please tell me what the agenda is then? Eh?
Describe it detail the exact agenda
@@kalancosta7650 I don't do requests and I'm not your father. If you can't see what everyone else sees then that's your problem. If you actually didn't know you could look it up in a few minutes , but we both know you're just playing dumb.
Jedi are not the bad guys. I don’t care who hurt Leslie. Sith are the bad guys, not Jedi. Quit creating your own narrative.
If only the writing was good, because the idea of Sol being fake is really interesting. Unfortunately, the entire show just feels all over the place, and makes no sense in many ways.
She’s making this show worse . If Sol knew it was Mae why is he not concerned with where OSHA IS? Just dumb logic
.... again, if Clone Wars are a part of the canon there is a clear conflict. The Clone Wars episode 1, Joda asks the three clones to put down their helmets, as he is able to see their differences in the force ... I would bet my bottom dollar that Lesley the SW lore wisperer does not know that, and does not know for the existence of shape-shifters.
Headland is either lying about Sol being the intended focus of the show, or is just fucking clueless, because he's absolutely not been the focus of the show.
I love how diverse this is. It's just so badly written. And I am sick to death of these short episodes and seasons. I'm soooooo over Star Wars. A 50 year fan of Star Wars, turned into a hater of the franchise.
The legends argument is bullshit. Marvel and DC does the exact same thing with their characters and comic lore. And everyone loves them for it
I just think it's crazy how they changed Ki Adi Mundi's birth date in real time. I mean they knew he was in it since it's already filmed and being released episode by episode each week. Why not change his Wookipedia information before premiering the show. That was just lazy, tacky and super sus(picious).
It still doesn't make sense because a millennium is 900 years before 'The Acolyte' and I'm sure there were Sith during that period. I'm not going to click on any video claiming that it makes sense and follows canon.
Shows how poorly written the script is, if Headland has to point out key elements of the story. If she us the writer then either SW stories aren't for her, or she can't write mysteries. Either way I will continue watching till the end. I've invested all this time to it
So you’re saying the Jedi brain wash children and put them into situations they aren’t meant to be in… hmm sounds like a certain island she’s not suppose to have knowledge of
I really hope Sol isn’t a secret dark side user. That’d make me sad. Though I do think it’s possible he knoss about the diade and that his motives aren’t as pure as we think.
I’m vested in the mystery of how this excuse of a Star Wars series costs $180 million
Leslie laughs at the ki di amundi bad decision because some people laugh to try to make it look like they actually dont care yet on the inside they care. more lies from the write and producer of this show.
Just watching the interviews of the cast before the show dropped i knew this was gonna be a disaster
This show had a budget on the same scale as Dune part 2 but the difference is one cast crew is much different compared to the other
lol so much work to make such a trash story show. Glad some of you are enjoying the show but for me it’s insulting.
I've been using the same shelving unit, Lesley's, for decades 😊
Lesley- it was Pablo’s fault. I’m just here for a paycheck
Was Sol bangin' some witches back-in-the-day? Is Qimir his son?
Don't understand why storytellers these days always have to make the "good guys" bad.
I want to reserve judgement until I see the complete series...I need to see the whole picture.
It‘s ridiculous writing. What’s the point of it all??
Bro where the hell is everyone finding these interviews i only see ppl talking about the interviews
That would help sol kills mae and returns to save ocha returns and both sol and ocha die and the real sith shows how he or she helps light the corny fire
I believe there should be more morally ambiguous characters in Star Wars but doing that with the sith and jedi doesn't work, their dynamic should remain black and white with no grey area.
I absolutely agree, like this show would have been way more interesting if it was just focused on completely new and different kind of "Force Users" somewhere in the Galaxy, and show their ideals and how they view and follow the force.
@@RaikenXion Sorry for the late reply, but yes that premise is much better than the show we actually got, the sith could still be a part of it but in a role where their behind the scenes manipulating this new force religion to turn to the darkside or perhaps even destroy it from within because they view it as a threat, you could have the jedi show up during the aftermath to investigate the situation but with little evidence to work with the jedi are unable to determine what exactly happened.
@@buck342443 Yes Exactly! Now that's spot on. 👍
This is what the writers of Kenobi should have also done too for the Reva Character. Kennedy should really have put her money where he mouth is and actually give Reva her own show, a series all about how Reva was taken during Order 66, and brainwashed/trained to be a "Inquisitor" and such a show could have given us some real insight into the life of Inquisitors; how they're always trying to earn Vader's admiration and respect, but he never once cares about any of them, just sees them as a tool to control and use. And Reva starts to see this, or always felt this and secretly plotted, patiently training, learning all she can from Vader her mentor, to one day become skilled and strong enough to defeat him. Hiding her true feelings and intentions from him.
Such a show could have taken us across many parts of the Galaxy, as we follow Vader and his pupils, tracking down various Jedi, slaughtering them in really cool "Highlander" style lightsaber duels, where Vader takes them on, sometimes he rarely even take on whole villages who try to help protect a random Jedi, and fight him and he just kills them all. And we're seeing Reva close by, learning but horrified, badly conflicted too.
And then the finale episode, being about that scene, where she tries to kill him and fails miserably, but DONT do that stupid crap having him literally stab her and she survives. Instead she fights him and he toys with her, then he like badly slashes her, or cuts off her arm or something and she narrowly escapes and has to hide out from him; making her sympathetic.
This is what they actually should have done, because Fans would have absolutely watched such a series as that and would have really liked the Reva character I think.
This would have also freed up the Kenobi series, that was already choc full of too many characters, and allowed more proper insight and screentime dedicated to purely Kenobi and Vader as it should have been.
I just hate Kathy Kennedy, every decision she makes is wrong and just spectacularly bad, because she doesn't understand starwars lore; but then has the utter cheek to attack and blame us fans when we reject this crap she keeps interfering with.
I agree the Sith should have been the main focus of the acolyte, its what all fans who were optimistic for the show at first thought and expected it would be about.
I think, at this point, if you’re correct (and I don’t think you are) it would be just more terrible writing. Sol has not been displayed as having any nefarious tendencies by the show. Sure, ep. 5 did suggest that there is more to Sol than we’ve seen, but I’d guess that has more to do with the events back at the witches coven. Qimir’s statements seem to suggest that he knows something about Sol, and Sol did react to Qimir’s statements rather negatively. It’s obvious there is more to the events with the witch coven than we’ve been shown. Seems more like Sol has a guilty conscience. Who knows, though? Mae sure has changed her motivation out of nowhere several times now. When last we saw her she knocked her sister out, impersonating her and leaving her stranded with a Sith running amuck. Previously, she was going to turn herself into the Jedi and betray her master all because OSHA is alive and THAT’S what she cared about (until she doesn’t). Mae is not even a character. It’s just terrible writing. Who knows? Maybe Sol, Venestra and Ki-Adi-Mundi are all part of a secret Sith ring operating within the Jedi Order. When things can just happen for no actual reason it’s just bad writing. The very fact that the idea of Sol being a Sith or something like that is is even possible at this point shows that the writing is terrible and inconsistent. And if anything like that proves true we can all question why Sol didn’t kill Qimir when he absolutely could have. Honestly, I think this is grasping at straws with the hope that the story is better than it actually is.
Whatever explanation they come up with, I guarantee it feel totally contrived.
Hey Meg. I think the fight club theory is debunked. At the end of episode three, young May goes to the tree so it shows both young sisters alive and part after May supposed of death.
Sorry the show is still just crap and I will not watch it anymore I'm done.
I think we can all agree - this is high budget fan fic. I say that with the deepest respect for FF
I'd buy that if Ki Adi Mundi's age was just legends but...
i feel like its not that they knew when the last sith was and went against that, i think no one at disney realized it was a problem just like obiwan knowing leia
Part of me wouldn’t be mad if the coolest Jedi in this series turns out to be the coolest Sith.
I have a feeling that this show would've been more interesting without the twins.
So they thought it was funny to take a big dump on the fans… sounds like Disney
that sol knows it's mae makes sense, what's much less clear is why he just leaves osha. if he's not literally collaborating with qimir (which, seems unlikely but not impossible) then it's hard to explain just dipping like that. the writers clearly have ambition, but they have their work cut out in terms of resolving these plot threads.
Yes
Nobody with any Star Wars knowledge cares about her cutting her hair with a saber. It's the stupidity that she has a magic tattoo on her face that for some reason she thinks Sol won't see it. Fact of the matter is they probably forgot about it and/or removed it.
It's just as stupid as Osha impersonating Mae earlier in the series. Lucasfilm just forgot about the mark/tattoo.
The only thing I cared about is how overly dramatic she was when she did it. Who the fuck was she performing for? It was like Black Widow doing her superhero pose when no one is around.
The show is far from great but it isn't bad either. The reason why it's mostly diehard starwars fans (not all of them) who hate this show and have such a bias view about it is because the show is completely contradicting the information in legends especially the information in the darth plaguise novel. The darth plaguise novel by the way is one of the best novels i have read however its not cannon and unfortunately this is something that people cannot come to grips with.
I am not a die hard Star Wars fan. I don't know as much as most fans of the books and movies do. But I agree. It's pretty good in my opinion. Each of the last 2 episodes have improved on the previous. Let's hope that trends continues.
I don't know much about star wars at all. I think it is mostly people who are movie buffs and know a bit about screen writing and storytelling who have a hard time with it. I think those that don't think those things matter and children are those who like it
@@Scatty666 Yes the acting is a bit off and yes the dialogue at times is not the best but to say something is wrong with the storytelling? Please! Look a lot of people when they heard that the acolyte was going to focus on the Sith taught the show was going to focus on Darth Plaguise and his master Darth Tenebrous and that it would focus on a lot of the stuff from legends. The stuff from legends by the way are really really good. Unfortunately, they are not cannon.
The hate for this show started even before the first episode aired. And it started after it was evident that it wasn't going to focus on the stuff from legends.
@@azharuddinzahaur7683 ok, let's agree to disagree if you think this is a great script and that they are doing the great job telling this story. My point was that it is not just hard core star wars fans who dislike this show. I never read any books and don't know or care much about lore and stuff
@@Scatty666 Find! What is wrong with the story then?
I couldn’t make it past the first two episodes. The writing was so weird. It reminded me a lot of the nonsense in wheel of time. Things happening for no reason, plot devices being introduced, then going unused, major lore issues being created for a weird, short term gain. I don’t understand why these projects are going to people with no experience.
The answer: execs think they're geniuses. When we're lucky, the exec will actually have some sense of what makes a good story. But more often, we get people who think they know it, but in reality have horrible instincts for it, and choose people with equally horrible instincts.
I felt that whatever Sol did was the mystery early on. It comes up often. The thing is it might not even be as crazy as we think and could be perceived as worse from another’s point of view. I think he slaughtered the witches or had something to do with it, but I would think the Jedi would perceive them as dark side users and justify his actions. From the twins pov that would definitely be evil and I don’t think Qimir really cares, but uses it as a way to manipulate both twins. I could also see that decision causing problems between the Jedi there and bring deep regrets. Remember this show is supposed to be from the Sith/dark side pov so something that we’d expect from Jedi they would definitely see differently. It is probably something more, but I was just thinking this during Episode 3.
She has to explain her show and characters cause no one knows wtf is going on 😭
My thumbs up is for you Meg. I cannot stand this show.
Leslie Headland talks way too much.
I really like this series! Good Stuff!