Full Flex OFF ROAD Test of my new Jeep 4.5” Lift Kit
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- Опубликовано: 9 июл 2024
- Howdy! This time on AutoEdits we take the Jeep Wrangler out for the first 4x4 off road test and tune with the new long arm MetalCloak 4.5" lock n load suspension... Spoiler Alert.... IT'S AWESOME!
I have to admit right off the beginning to have really lost confidence after not being in the driver's seat for over a year for some more advanced wheeling so you'll be on board with me as I re-learn what this thing is capable of.
Here's the video of the full suspension installation and there's a link to the kit in that description:
• 4.5" Jeep Lift Kit How...
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I love seeing that real time excitement
Thanks dude... ME TOO!
That is so dang cool! Your build is really amazing! I love your enthusiasm Jason. Thanks for making these quality videos. I am learning a lot from you.
Thanks for being here!
Great job Jason. Always enjoy your videos and honesty. You truly share your ups and downs and not faking anything. I mostly enjoy your different "identities"! Keep it up!!
Awesome! Thank you!
Back to back days for me. Let’s go Jason!!! Love the new videos
Heck yeah!
Love the video! You got excellent shots and really showed everything working. My buddy has this same lift on his JK and loves it. I'm a technical kind of guy so I really appreciate videos that show how stuff works while it's being used.
Thanks! 👍
Awesome upgrade. The first time I have seen that long arm setup....... I really like !
Thanks 👍 Me too!
This is what it's all about! I love your videos where you show us your builds/swaps/mods/etc. but I guess that seat time is the payoff for garage time! Enjoy the heck out of it. As always, I can't wait for the next video! Been a fan for a long time. Keep up the great work!!!!
Thanks so much for this!
I feel like it’s been a few years since I’ve watched your videos / really glad to see you’re still at it !!
Still here. Howdy and welcome back!
Thanks for taking us along with you Jason.
You bet... glad you're here!
*walks up super hard obstacle* "Well darnit" hahaha glad everything went well! Excited to see future wheeling videos!
More to come! Thanks!
Good to see you back in the saddle again. Man it feels good to get out and have some fun doesn’t it 😎💪
You got that right!
What a beast! Love watching that super clean underbelly articulate
Ha! It is a lot of work but I’m glad someone else enjoys that as well!🤣
Great video - looks like same park you first took your jeep on when you put on the game changer lift on many years back - I agree with you...WOW!!!
Thanks! It is the same park... I watched that video before going and was pretty embarrassed at how timid I was back then... LOL
Jason, by far the best Jeeper RUclipsr to date. LOVE your video brother!
Thank you so much 👍
Awesome upgrade! I Love Holly on MischiefMaker!!!
One of the few things in CA that I almost miss is those OHV parks for some quick offroading, I used to live a few minutes from Prairie City. Glad you managed to get out on the dirt and your reaction is one of the reasons to own a Jeep. I would be interested to see the difference in the real world with the lock n load back to back on the same obstacle. Keep getting out there.
I’m sure with more time I’ll do more comparisons. Thanks dude
Nice work Jason. Not only on the learning you accomplished.
But your technical skills on capturing and putting Thai video together. 🤙
Oops s/b this
Thanks Pop!
Confidence and will. You have a very capable weapon, use it and you will build that confidence.
Jeep on Jason!
Good goal... more Jeepin!
@@AutoEdits if you ever come to Oregon it would be great to hit up some trails here. Lots of great places to work on those driving skills. We are heading to the Rubicon on the 23rd also. 2021 is going to be a fun year of Jeeping
Thanks Jason!! I'm down to MetalCloak, TeraFlex, and Rock Krawler for the lift on our '13 JKU Sport. Just when I think I've settled on which one, I see a video like this and I go back to the drawing board - lol. That long arm, lock-n-load kit looks pretty darn cool. I'm learning every time I watch one of your videos. Hope to see you out on the trails in the future!
Sorry not sorry 🤣 Don’t forget to look up Synergy!
Metalcloak, Game Changer.
Thanks for the great video
Glad you enjoyed it!
Loved this video
Loved this comment.
Love the channel Jason. Always great content and learn something new on every video. Give paw bumps to pinto.
Thanks so much!
That was awsome!!!
Thanks so much for coming along for the ride!
Good stuff is never added it, keep it up, awesome!
Thanks! Will do!
That Long Arm MC Kit is DOPE!!!!
I’ve been impressed so far!
Seems like the perfect upgrade! Awesome performance and articulation!
It's way more capable than I know how to drive it for sure...LOL But I'll keep practicing!
@@AutoEdits be safe, have fun and looking forward to new videos!
Not wow - KNARLEY.
Totally impressed 👏
HA! I like knarley!
Thanks Jeepin Jason!
Howdy and thank you!!!!
Nice product, nice vids and information. Good weather to unlock the Lock-and-load :-) I won't be doing that in mud or snow on east coast trails! (LOL)
True... You can reach it from the side if you turn the wheel to the left! I just wanted to shoot video of the process.
Very nice set up. 🤟
I'm very happy so far!
Awesome!
Thanks!
Nice!!
I'm impressed. To be honest, I thought the whole locked n loaded thing sounded somewhat gimmicky. If I hadn't seen it with my own eyes, there's no way anyone could've convinced me that Metalcloak reinvented the radius arm. Your reaction & the expression on your face alone just showed me how closed minded I am. I'm stoked that your stoked with your rig's performance.
All good... I had the same thing with some stuff on Joe’s Jeep!
Nice going! I am taking a good look at this lift, thanks to you.
You on this video didn't have your s/bar disconnected,and it was doing g well.
Subde 👍🤙
Excellent!
Great video
Glad you enjoyed it
I counted “wow” 473 times 🤣 Great Video Jason! JeepWave 👋🏼
Howdy dude! At least 473 times...LOL
I always seem to miss you at HVOHV. We were just there this weekend. The extra inch of lift and the 38s makes all the difference. I tried the concrete ledge and couldn't do it due to the area where my front tires land was all dug out. That caused the belly to bottom out. Guess its time to upgrade to the 4.5 lift
Or just hit that ledge with more go-sauce! I have been very surprised by how exactly what you mentioned has made a huge difference in my Jeep.
Good ride 😎✌
Thanks ✌
Thanks so much for posting this, I have the rear set up with DB3 brackets, control arms, now working to get the stuff for the front radius set up. Not too many videos on this. Really appreciate the time you took to film this. BTW, PSC Hydroassist, you’ll wonder how you ever used to turn your wheels. 🤙🏽🤙🏽
Thank you! I just did a full PSC install on my buddies jeep and as great as I thought it was... I do miss that "on center" feeling a bit. Did you check out this video...ruclips.net/video/lMjd-nrJXNY/видео.html
@@AutoEdits you know that may be a Jeep to Jeep thing. When I turn the corner it does self center. When I was researching that was a major concern, and was willing to deal with it, but much to my surprise it wasn’t an issue. Apparently the big bore kit without Hydroassist is also a world of difference, that may be solution also. 🤙🏽 keep up the great work! Love your vids!
Seems like a real pain in the butt to have to get down there and unlock / lock the control arm. I’ve never been a fan of radius arm suspensions. It looks like it’s working out well though. Definitely agree, seat time over everything.
Yeah, you absolutely don't have to unlock it... It does great without. I just gotta get out for more.
Pretty cool lines the camera never does justice but if you know you know
Hey thanks!
Nice demo. I wonder how more articulation and traction you would get aired down and with the sway bars disconnected?
Dude love your videos I been following you since you did the road trip to see your sister. Hey you think you can make a video or some tips of how to drive manual off road ..
Possibly!
I'm a Metalcloak Believer. I bought a 3.5in Game Changer kit for my 2 Door and I love how it wheels. I am constantly getting comments about how my Jeep looks straight out of a magazine with the flex I am getting with it. But flex isn't the only thing I love about it. I am always amazed at how it can be that my lifted jeep constantly out performs all the trucks(solid axled mostly) I get to drive. There are a few things I'd like to improve on like a new(replacing the factory original) steering damper and linkages, ball joint eliminators, and some cosmetic stuff but with 35s and 4.10 gearing it does really well for itself. I like how I don't have to give any throttle input at all to get up just about any obstacle(My Jeep is a manual). I noticed Jason had a few times where he came close to stalling it and I wonder if he's re-geared to be running 37's? Anyways I love my MC lift, it enables so much and does so for very competitive pricing. I love Teraflex but for me, MC just has a better kit for the money.
I have 4.88 gears.
Ugh this makes me want to get a jeep even though I don't really do this type of driving, just having the capability is soooo reassuring
Get any kind of 4x4 and make it your own!
@@AutoEdits I currently have a 15 CR-V AWD, which I've definitely made my own with plenty of upgrades including Dobinsons lift springs, but started looking in earnest for a pre-owned 4runner or Tacoma with upgrades planned for overland camping 🤞
That sounds awesome!
Awesome! Watching it articulate up the rutted hill was really satisfying. It's fascinating how well that works, and how level it keeps the body.
Also, I'm blown away by how clean you continue to keep your Jeep underneath.
Glad you enjoyed it! It's easier to keep clean since I live out here on the west coast but still takes a lot of work.
Great video man! I like how you showed all the action shots underneath. The MC lock and load kit is pretty cool, but it does have some shortcomings with the radius arms. For example, 10:29. You can see how much pinion change your axle went through on just that little bump. Really have to be carefull when you start doing larger obstacles, especially when they are on an incline with the radius arm setup. Hopefully one day we can get out and wheel together!
Good observation, I'll be curious to see how it performs in the wild on some actual stuff. I honestly couldn't "feel" a difference between locked and unlocked but it makes sense that the driveshaft could only handle a certain amount of induced angle. Yeah it would be great to finally meet up on some dirt!
it looks so cool and seeing it all move like that, wow
@@AutoEdits i wonder if it would change like that without the lock n load arm in?
@@AutoEdits Having radius long arms on our TJ’s we’ve experienced nothing but great results. Our front pinion angle follows through perfectly on suspension travel. This footage could some be a optical allusion from using a Go Pro type of camera. We’ve looked at incorporating that Lock N Load from Metal onto our Jeeps but haven’t yet. Key board warriors will tell you everything wrong with radius arms. How they won’t flex. Why you need a 4 link front suspension. Don’t believe the hype and keep making great videos.
Love your enthusiasm autoedits! Where is this at? I’m near Santa Clarita and would like to see how my short arm metal cloak performs and would like to put it thru the paces like this!
Howdy and thanks! This is Hungry Valley off road park near Gorman.
Nice job at navigating the rock garden without a spotter.
Thanks... it was really surprisingly easy! The Jeep just kept moving through!
did you just cut of the mounting tab for the stab shock on the axle or have you made a new bracket on the axle? Still using the same mounting position for the track bar?
Ask you about that in a another video and at that point you where still happy how that position works with the high steer and flip kit.
I just installed my UD44 this weekend but have not yet have time to testdrive. Must torque everything and fill up the diff house with oil. Cant wait to take a testdrive and hope I will found that my high steer kit works well with the dana bracket. I still have original knuckles.
keep up with your nice channel and good videos. You are such a positive person so it is fun to watch.
Thanks for the kind words! I did just end up cutting the tabs off the mounting flange on the axle and am very happy with the trackbar mount location.
Great video as always! I love that place. Sorry if I missed it, but did you ever engage the lockers?
I did engage them on for the rock garden but that's it!
Man I miss the WJ over landing trips from way way back when.
I'd keep doing more but those videos don't get many views so I can only do them when resources allow and things have been tough lately.
I can’t begin to tell you how much this review meant to me. This is the lift kit that I decided to get 6 months ago . After 1 year of search and study I knew I had to have Metalcloaks 4.5 Lock n load. I have waiting to see this up close in a video other than an installation. I NOW have my confirmation that it’s what I need. Thanks so much for sharing. You different angles made it easy to see.👍👍
Glad to hear... I'm very pleased with the performance so far!
She is working 🍻🍾.
Yes she is!
Nice - enjoyed your enthusiasm! Where is that little park? Looked like a good place to practice (I'm a novice and don't get off road enough).
That is Hungry Valley OHV near Gorman California.
I have the 5.5 inch mid arm. It does as good as I need off road. I’m more wondering how the on road is improved. I feel mines about as good as stock maybe a little better now
I dream to one day have a garage that's half as cool as yours!
Other than my jeep... it's a bunch of junkers...LOL But thanks!
@@AutoEdits don't disrespect Large Marge like that!
Love the videos, had a question what park is this ?
Hungry Valley OHV
Que tal, excelente video, para un jk de 2 puertas recomiendas mas la de brazos largos o mejor cortos?
Yes, the same kit.
The blue PRP interior looks killer! Did miss Pinto riding shotgun though 😜
I also missed Pinto. Wonder how his Chevy is making out. Of course the danger he runs into is feeling good when you first do something and then it wears on you until the next upgrade. I currently am upgrading my control arms to standard Metalcloaks.
So will getting rocks, sticks and dirt, etc. jammed in-between the upper control arm spring coils keep it from working? I can see those springs getting a beating and wearing out quickly. Glad you're the test bunny.
You don't really need to unlock that thing... it works fantastic without doing that. But we'll find out together.
Next you go out wheeling on this course you should sync up a camera with you pedal footwork. Would be interesting to watch a split screen view of what your feet are doing with the clutch, gas, break as you tackle the different obstacles.
Interesting suggestion never thought anyone would care about that but I can totally put that on the list!
Is that your locker connecter or locked indicator connecter that's unplugged and dangling on your front axle? Cool video! Really has me thinking about doing this on the front
It's the locker indicator... I keep not getting around to splicing in the harness from Spicer. LOL
Another cool video. Nice mod and glad the end result is fantastic. Hey, where's Pinto?
Thanks! Pinto hurt her leg and I didn't think it would be good for her to be bounced around in the back of the Jeep for this one. Kind of a bummer.
@@AutoEdits Hope she recovers quickly
Sick articulation!
It does pretty good... I'm thinking after watching the video of trying to remove the rear sway bar to free up the rear!
@@AutoEdits I’d be curious what that would do to the on road drive-ability.
I ran my buddy Joe's Jeep without one and it feels surprisingly good in all conditions... fast freeway and windy mountain roads.
@@AutoEdits I have heard the same from fellow jeepers but have not experienced it myself. I would be curious for sure. Especially with a full load of gear. In my Jeep I carry a box with some tools and recovery gear, and 5 people (2 adults and up to 3 kids). Pretty full load when out on trails. We drive to our adventures so we would have to have good on road manors too. Looking forward to seeing what you try. Depending on how you like it we may try the same.
Installing my 4.5” lock n load this weekend. Any issues with squat or unloading (lifting front) on uphill climbs?
Also, did you have to delete the exhaust loop? Instructions make that seem mandatory…
Thanks for all the vids. I’m all cloaked out here too.
If you have the DB3 brackets in the rear... they have amazing anti-squat built in watch the beginning of this video for a good example of that ruclips.net/video/lMjd-nrJXNY/видео.html
The Lock n Load didn't require exhaust mods on either the 2013 or 2016 I installed them on. I'm extremely happy with the setup.
Great to see the flex and articulated suspension in action. Just curious how is the stability at highway speeds +70?
It drives better than it did stock... go to the end of this video and check out the canyon test drive ruclips.net/video/VCA3rd4dhIE/видео.html Or check out this one of my road trip in Joe's Jeep with the same suspension going 80 down the freeway like a Cadillac ruclips.net/video/lMjd-nrJXNY/видео.html
Jason, can you share details on the wheels and tires? Size, backspacing etc. on both. Thanks. Looking at that same set up.
Sure thing! ruclips.net/video/VIQOF6n1-bg/видео.html
Those seat covers look great. What color PRP would you suggest I get for my nacho colored JT?
Oh man... they have hundreds of options... go to the page and scan and have fun... here's the video I did and the link is in the description ruclips.net/video/WHOHvf9HxQM/видео.html
Hey there I’m in California too and was wondering where you were doing this video
Howdy, this is Hungry Valley OHV near Frazier Park
@@AutoEdits awesome thanks I’ll have to go check it out I’m in Visalia so not too far away ... btw really like that new suspension on your Jeep
Can't get over that Dana 44. I would want a blue diff cover when I get mjnd. Please do tell me how I can get one with blue.
That axle housing a a big bore steering box is my next upgrade with the 4" build I have already.
That would be an absolutely perfect setup... how I'm aiming as well. For the blue cover... just head to 4wheelparts.com!
1 year review vid 😁 about to pull the trigger on this set up. Wondering what your thoughts are on the lock n load set up and the db3 drop brackets. 🤔
Still very happy with this setup. ruclips.net/video/TsZTVJRgXNI/видео.html
Next time mount the GoPro back where it stares at the profile of the Lock-n-Load to see how much it compresses. Very sweet set-up though. I like that you stuck with the D44 rather than 60’s at this point. I want to keep the daily driver & keep her on the lighter side.
I was shocked at how my friends Jeep was extremely daily driver friendly with the Dynatrac D60 I installed on it. Other than cost and weight... not sure D44 is truly the best way anymore. I'm happy because I honestly couldn't afford a full set of 60's but if you watch my last video driving Joe's jeep to northern california... you'll see how comfortable that setup can be.
Where is this looks like an awesome place that ya can
Test it out
In Gorman California.
That's such a cool little rock garden to test in without having to go out in the middle of nowhere. I think a cool test would have been to "lock" the lock and load, and go up that first hill again and see if it still goes up without the lockers. I am betting the front end would have limited articulation and required you to lock the axle.
Great point! I was just enjoying the day and kind of forgot to do that kind of testing.
@@AutoEdits Enjoying yourself is far more important :)
Now that the Teraflex long arm kit is out, would you have still went with the MetalCloak kit over the Teraflex kit. I currently have a 3.5" lift on my Jeep JL and looking to go to a 4.5" lift on long arms, but can't decide on which kit would work best for my application. The springs from my current lift are sagging so I think the MetalCloak springs might be able to help with that.
Yep. I'm all in with the Metalcloak stuff... the springs are a real highlight.
Looks great. Choose your lines carefully. You pinched your tire pretty good at 6:42. Like you said,..... "seat time".
I folded those tires plenty of times in that rock garden and ground the sidewalls like crazy.
How about a fan meet up to a wheeling spot? Would love to bring the jeep and meet up with a bunch of followers for a weekend of wheeling.
I keep thinking of something like that... maybe later this year!
I didn't read through all the comments. But do you feel by disconnecting the front sway bar would give you more articulation? Enjoyed your video. Take care. I'm adding the MC Lock & Load to my TJ.
It's a Rubicon with an e-disconnect.
Oh 👌. Awesome...
Looks awesome but did you do a run where you didn't unlock the spring?
I did and it felt great. You definitely don't need to unlock it but I'm sure it helps.
Engine sounds... only. No music only calm dialogue. Thank you sir, really enjoyable.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Very cool radius arms... Questions for you, Does anyone make longer Wheel speed sensor wires? How do you like the Milestars?
I'm not sure about the sensor pigtails... could you just re route them for length? This thing has a ridiculous amount of droop and they seem to be ok. I love the Patagonia tires... I had them at 8psi for this video and they were a big part of why this Jeep just walked all that stuff... certainly wasn't my driving LOL
It’s two wires, I bought another sensor and spliced the wires together, heat shrink. I have never had an issue. Lengthened them 6”. I use those heat shrink connectors with the solder and they are strong
Where did you film this at? Looks like a nice place for a little practice.
Hungry Valley ohv
the "before" times LOL
I am so going to steal that saying.
right... very mad max feeling
Cool video. But I like the General Lee videos.
Fair enough!
Even though the jeep articulates like a gymnast esp thru the sluice why do I feel that the Ram can do almost everything the jeep can with half the suspension travel? The main benefit to the jeep is how it’s narrower and lighter? Maybe as a guy with 2 rams I’m biased but I do want a jeep but I know I’ll end up spending so much upgrading it and idk if I can justify it yet esp when you have influences like Jason who always has the good stuff on his vehicles I couldn’t sleep at night knowing I half assed my upgrades ha!
They are distinctly different animals...lol
The ram sounds so much better with a little hemi v8 and goes down the highway so dang good. Long drives are just flat out relaxing in the ram and a little more effort in the Jeep. But I could climb rocks like that sluice all day with confidence in the Jeep but freaking out that one of the front half shafts is about to snap in the ram the entire time... so totally different!
Hey Jason! I’m strongly considering this kit but I’m torn between the radius arm option and the regular four link option.
Why’d you go with the lock and load option over the 4 link?
Much easier installation was the main reason and I’ve been thrilled with it so far!
Hey Jason! Big Fan of your work. Getting ready to get my Jeep lifted and I’m just shooting my shot and wondering if you could give me a hand installing it.
Just have fun with it! Take your time and do it right!
I definitely will! Just bought it. Went with the rock krawler 2.5 inch max flex kit. Any thoughts?
@@rebelfarms3825 I don't know anything about that kit but hope it works out great for you!
All good. I’ll keep you updated on my install. Should be here by Tuesday
After all the time you experienced with the 6 pak shocks, are you still happy with them and would you buy again for your build?
Yes, absolutely.
How do you like the 6 pack shocks, how long have you had them, what’s the maintenance like on them?
Love the shocks... went with them again by choice. The only maintenance I did was to top off the nitrogen every year or so (I went 2 the first time) and clean the outside.
I have a long arm kit on my 2007 JKU
Nice!
What are those yellow added lights?? Where to get them??
Baja designs LP6 ruclips.net/video/uo9ZjCfrAvE/видео.html
super
Thank you
@6:15 the rear lower part of the left shock is fully compressed but the top is not. That doesn't affect anything?
No, they work just fine. I've been really happy with these shocks.
How do you like the core doors, when you run with the uppers are thet dry?
Like them and they do good.
I see psc steering in your future lol 🧙♂️
YUUUUUP!
Where is this place located? Awesome video 👏🏽
Hungry Valley OHV park near Frazier Park CA
@@AutoEdits thanks Jason, I will have to check this place out in a couple months. 🤙🏽
👍
Do i need to disconnect my quick disconnect sway bars when I'm using the lock n load?
Yes.
Hey man kinda off topic but I got a 1972 mustang Mach 1 fastback and I’m looking at tire sizes, I’m really thinking about 15x8 mag 500s with a 255 tire up front and a 15x10 mag in back with 275. Ik that’s the similar size setup you have, do you have any problems rubbing up front on the inside?
Howdy! I absolutely love to talk Mustang on a Jeep video... actually makes me feel more like a community rather than a few separate groups ... lol... I run a 255/40 R17 on the front now with no issue at all. Not sure how a 15" wheel would effect that since your backspace would be a little farther out... I have a 4.75 backspace or -6mm offset for reference.
@@AutoEdits gotcha thanks man!