Jeep Tuning - How To make your Wrangler Better after Every Off Road Trip
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- Опубликовано: 26 июл 2024
- This time on the AutoEdits Jeep Wrangler Rubicon build and adventure series... I'll bring you into the garage with me to check out the good and the bad impacts on the Jeep from my trip to Moab Utah for Easter Jeep Safari with my friends.
Then I'll show the changes I made to the Jeep and why.
Here's a quick rundown... I reinstall the stock rear sway bar and add 1.5" wheel spacers to the rig.
I'll also showcase how the new components are working out. The PSC steering kit has proven to be an incredible upgrade in all aspects of driving the Jeep.
The Fusion Elite44 front axle is very confidence inspiring and having the proper geometry and strength under the front of the Wrangler is amazing.
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00:00 Introduction
00:58 Front axle and steering assessment
04:24 PSC steering fitting that got bent
07:57 Explaining wheel backspace
09:12 Showing where the rear wheel rubs on the control arms
09:33 HOW TO properly tighten a "lug centric" wheel or wheel spacer
10:20 Re-installing the rear sway bar and explaining why
11:55 Checking damage and learning how to apply that to being a better driver
17:49 Under the hood checks
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Howdy guys, thanks for watching! Glad you are here!
Hey Jason!
@@nicholasbaldwin1674 HOWDY!
Funny timing on your rear sway bar discussion. I went wheeling this past weekend and also clench hard on the off camber stuff. I've been thinking all week if I should remove the rear bar. Seems logical that more flex like the front would help.
However, after some googling today I came across a video that shows on a flex ramp how the rear bar not only helps level the body, BUT when the rear was unhooked it also caused a lot more fender rub and lessened the travel up the ramp, basically making the jeep less capable. And yeah, I sweat on the super tippy stuff, so thank you for saving me from a horrible mistake.
@@chrisbrannan3784 That video you mentioned is misleading. No matter the sway bar setup, you should have the bump stops set so the tires do not rub. The only thing that video demonstrates is that dude using a sway bar as a band aid for another problem. My Jeep performed fine on the trail without the sway bar, I just want it for all the day to day driving.
Hey Jason, do you think the 6pak shocks are worth the price. I heard they have leaking issues
I hope you never get rid of the Jeep…I really enjoy your videos. Keep up the good work
That's the plan!
You rock, Jason!! I love how honest you are and never pretend to be something other than you! Keep up your awesome work. 👍
Thanks so much... I'll keep trying!
I loved the advice about not squaring up. I'll keep that in mind on my next trip. Thanks.
It really helps and is always good to keep learning new techniques.
Humble, honest, & still one of the best jk channels!
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I just appreciate your video, the your style is so relatable and non presumptions. I may benefit from adding some wheel spacers to our Jeep. I will look into that, thank you Jason!
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks for keeping it reall with us. I like it when a RUclips keeds things 💯
I appreciate that!
@AutoEdits Great video! I 100% agree with your approach to and outlook in offloading/building your Jeep. The information and content you put into your videos is as good as or more often, better than the other channels I watch. I hope we get more offroading content (preferably Jeep 😂) soon!
Thanks! I did just get invited on a big Jeep trip next month in Arizona!
Time for a Rockjock rear swaybar!
Was super cool to come across you on Top of the World! If my YJ ever gets done and behaves itself I hope to hit some harder trails at Moab next year.
Heck yeah!
In an engineering setting you might call this a “Post Mortem.”
In regards to the long arm debate I wouldn’t say that there is one clear victor. Each suspension has its compromises. It really resonated with me when you talked about learning to drive what you have as I have always thought that alone is typically the biggest improvement you can make to your rig.
Can’t wait until the next adventure!
Oh the classic driver mod. A+
Love this!!! Always easiest to make adjustments to the "loose nut" behind the steering wheel 😂
Love all yours videos I’m always learning. Great content!
Awesome! Thank you!
Great video Jason the Jeep looks really good
Thanks 👍
What an outstanding example of how taking care of your rig…takes care of YOU! Your careful prep served you in great stead. However, given the skill and aplomb with which you and the Jeep tackled Moab, I can’t begin to imagine what a difference you could see if you perform your anticipated upgrade from your obviously trust-worthy Dana 44 axles to the legendary Dana 60s. It’ll take some more of your clever videography to illustrate to an “unwashed lout” such as myself the advantages. If anyone COULD provide the cinematography and narration to these off-road “educational” videos… it’s you. My hope is that it won’t cost you the very Moon to bring us this footage! Please continue to take care and enjoy your drives!
Ha! You're too kind... thanks! We'll see if I can capture the essence 😂
Always helpful.
Glad you think so!
Great video Jason! I really love these informative videos. I couldn’t tell you how much I’ve learned over the years watching your videos. Great videos man!
Great to hear! Keep on keepin' on!
Wow I really enjoyed this video. Great overview of the trip, the rig and adjustments made. Jason, I’m really digging the way your channel has turned out. Can’t wait for the next video!
Awesome, thank you so much dude!
Glad to see the channel back in the swing of things!
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Thanks for the video, good info, especially on the PSC. Of all the upgrades, the PSC is by far the one I would not want to be without, absolutely love it! I just ditched my 3.5" Metal Cloak GC and went with an Artec 3 link. Thanks to one of your videos I also threw on some Reid knuckles and Rare Parts ball joints. An in two weeks I am headed out to Sheridan, WY to get my new MIdnight Metal Works Rock Box and Crawl Box installed, first one ever in a JK... Super pumped about that! Anyways I also wanted to say that the majority of control arms would handle hitting the rocks and in a long arm setup, the angle of the control arm wouldn't hang up nearly as bad as the ~45 degree angle of the bracket. Good advice for tuning your driving style to accommodate! Love your videos, please keep it up!
Congrats on all your upgrades. I agree with you on the bracket stuff but for ease of install, I'm still happy with this setup. If I were to be hitting that stuff all the time... the choice to go true long arm would be easy.
It’s a been pleasure watching you build your rig. I have copied a lot of your ideas over the years. Jeep on!
NICE!!!
Really enjoy these. Makes me feel less in a hurry to have giant tires and all the crazy things. Go on trips and slowly learn. Then after that build it to match your skill.
Yes! That's the ticket!
Another great video
Glad you enjoyed it!
Love this analysis video after a big trip like that! Great vid!
Thanks a ton!
Nice video Jason, I just finished a wheeling weekend and I'm going to do a post inspection to. We don't have the rock rides that you do down there, more of a mountain / mud trail ride. Which I'm going to be cleaning the JKU's naught bits out for weeks... Really appreciate the reminder videos and explanation of why you do what you do !!! Keep them coming brother
Thanks so much and right on!!!!!!!!!!🤘
You are the NEXT-LEVEL JASON ! Love your videos👍🏼
Thanks so much!!!👍
Excellent video again Jason ! I'm with you on the sway bar , I don't like all the body roll offroad or on road without the rear sway bar connected . The only one I disconnect offroad is the front one. I was looking at your jack stands on this video and I have the same ones as you do . Ha Ha . Take care my friend and please give Pinto some pets from me please .
Pep Boys for the win... LOL!!! Pats for Pinto for sure... thanks!
Another great video Jason! I’ve always found your videos extremely helpful and gives me a better insight on how I’m going to setup mine when I get one.
Working towards buying a house right now so I can buy another jeep and have room to work on it!
Best of luck!
One thing I often wonder listening to "Dudes online" ... you know the ones that always have something to say. How many of them actually wheel?! I can't be a "Dude online" cuz I don't go our to specifically Rock Crawl. I'm more of an explorer, but even myself can learn from this, and this great ... adjust accordingly, find what works for you after test runs. This is cool ... "I don't like it, so I put it back on." Pretty simple... and the rear control arms, ... great points there.
Thanks so much... I appreciate it when someone really "gets it"!!!
Good stuff. Regarding the long arm/db3 bracket discussion. Yes you would be correct that a long arm would hit in same place as the bracket. But that is with a bolt on long arm kit. With a proper long arm that moves the axle brackets up even with the axle tube, you would avoid that issue or just barely slide on the arm. Just a good point to make about bolt on vs weld on long arms
Solid points. I didn't specify in this video that stuff for sure. For how easy this kit was to install and how infrequently I need a "true" long arm setup, it makes sense for me to adjust my driving style more than the amount of fabrication it would take to install one.
I’m definitely jealous of the PSC setup. I plan on doing that in the future myself. PSC just makes the absolute best hydraulic setups on the market and I’m excited to see a more long term review of their stuff and to get it myself one day!
Truth.
What an awesome surprise, a new AutoEdits vid!!!
Well, Howdy!
@@AutoEdits Howdy Jason! Picking up some 35’s for my 2 door next week! Milestar Patagonia’s thanks to you! Also got a hard rock edition bumper for 200 bucks! It’s beat up, but I’ll take it!
Awesome to hear! Hey, new to you is great and with a little paint... it'll be a great bumper for ya!
Love the videos man keep it up!! My kids want those core doors so bad!!
They are a ton of fun! Howdy to the kiddos! 👋
Thanks man. big hello to your family aswell, stay safe brother!!
intro is on point!!
Thanks!
I have been reluctant to order psc I don’t want it to be to much on the hwy no feel but after watching this video I think it will be ok. Thanks
It's beyond ok... it makes the Jeep amazing in all situations.
WooHoo!!! AutoEdits video day.
You know it!🍺👍
Great video man! I learned the hard way about doing a post run check. Looked under the back end of the Jeep after my last wheeling run (and a 2200 mile drive to and from Moab) to find the jam nut on my Metalcloak rear track bar had backed off and because of that bent the threads on the joint! Had to pay my shop for a new joint and have the bracket for the track bar reinforced. Ended up being a $500 fix. Yikes!
Yikes is right!
Loved this….great suggestions and advice….as always!!! The only thing I would add is marking things off with a paint pen…everything is easier to take note of that way in my opinion 🤷
Great tip! I keep forgetting to pick up one of those things... thanks for the reminder!
Hey Jason you ever thought of doing like a livestream Q&A on here!!?
I haven't until you just recommended it... kinda nervous of that but I'll think about it! Thanks!
I don't own a jeep, but I always find your videos entertaining. Please do more stuff with the ram 1500!
He sold his ram a while ago
Thanks, I can't do Ram videos since it's gone.
Hey Jason! What a rig man! My dream vehicle for sure. I don't know much about Wrangler sway bars but I guess it might be similar with any solid axle vehicle. I have a Nissan Patrol Y60. I think it's a good decision to put the sway bars back on. I have front and rear sway bars but I changed the sway bar end links to greaseable heim joints. I find that it is more stable off road especially on extreme lean angles and still articulates better than stock. Hope that helps. More power to your channel sir! 💪😎
Howdy and thanks for the tip! I've had a few late nights watching Patrol videos... looks like an amazing platform!
@@AutoEdits Thanks man! I'm just amazed by how you kept your cool in those gnarly situations and continue to be honest with your experiences while driving a manual! Hoping to own a Jeep Wrangler someday. Looking forward to your next vid sir... Cheers!
When i went to 4” I broke my front sway bar shortly after. My lift is short arm, so I imagine with the extra travel you get with long arms you might want to invest in a currie antirock or similar front swaybar. Just a suggestion though, been a longtime fan and I cant wait to see future videos!
I always appreciate helpful suggestions... can learn something new every day!
Those marks on your DB3 brackets are a great example of why I’m not a fan of the metalcloak “long arm” system. A good quality brand long arm system like rock Krawler or Evo will actually tuck the arms on the side of the frame rails and not on the bottom of the frame rails. So you’d actually have more clearance with the long arm then you do with a traditional mid arm. That’s the best route to take if you want both the benefits of actual long arms and clearance.
Like I explained in the video, I don't want to do the invasive install at this time for any long arm kit. If I were to wheel all the time in terrain that needed it, I would commit to that but I don't... so bolt on easy install is the ticket for the time being.
With the rear sway bar installed it has a chance to hit the rear brake lines. keep an eye on that.
Solid reminder on that. I had issues with that several years ago and have moved the brake fitting on the passenger side. Plus I trimmed the back side of the sway bar mounting bolt.
Rear sway bars are very important. If you dont like the stock rear, you could go with an adjustable curry so you can tweak how stiff it is. You can even adjust the left/right pre-load on it if you wanted. There are rear long arm setups that don't cause a loss of ground clearance. They are weld on solutions, so not your typically garage install. When you get the rear axle, are you going to go with a wider one so you can ditch the spacers, or just switch wheels?
I'm in a bit of an awkward situation because of doing one axle at a time so keeping them stock width seems to make more sense. The stock rear sway bar seems adequate at the moment but I like to hear about other options.
Another great video, and yes, every time you pop the hood, that clean engine bay makes me envious. 😎 What PSI were you running in Moab?
HA! It does take some work but I'm lucky here in CA. On that Moab Rim trail I was at 8psi.
Will be watching!!! Have you had to replace the dreaded engine oil housing or rear main seal yet?
Howdy! Not yet... still good on that 👌
Another great video, thank you Jason. You mentioned how well you could maintain speed on the highway. I also have 38" Patagonia's. I can only do about 75, after that is gets a bit bumpy. When you mounted your tires did you adhere to the red yellow dots?
I didn't do the dot thing... just mounted them up and had my local tire shop spin balance them. Also make sure to rotate them regularly... cupping is an issue with these that they somehow fixed with the new MT02 tires. Could be what you're feeling if the spin balance is accurate on your setup.
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Teraflex spacers are 1.25". Been running them for 5 years.
I don't want to buy all new spacers to save .25"
What turn signal lights are those? They looks awesome
Here you go ruclips.net/video/qwHOvTxjqWQ/видео.html
Who makes those front turn signals? Looks awesome!
Here you go... ruclips.net/video/qwHOvTxjqWQ/видео.html
Jason, great content as always, did you find the manual trans being a challenge this trip? I will re visit your tips video, I have the 6 speed manual as well and it's always given me pause in certain situations, can I do this? Just seems 1 less pedal in those stop and go ok bump it conditions would be easier to handle or am I over thinking it.
It's a bit tricky in some situations but you learn how to make it work for you as best you can. The key is to NOT overthink it. Just get out there and do it.
Great info! I'm still getting some wondering in my 2020 JLUR even after a replacement steel steering box & an adjustable steering damper. I'm running a MOPAR lift with non adjustable lower front control arms. I'm wondering if this set up has too little caster. What amount of caster do you recommend?
I run about 7 positive caster with great success.
I've been staring at the Fusion 4x4 axles for a while and I have seen the hybrid 44/60 for the front but not the rear, are you thinking of the 60 semi float? As for everyone recommending the anti-rock, I don't see the need. I know of coil sprung long arm JKs that flex just as well with the stock bar as the anti-rock. Unless you don't want to run the spacers and keep the vision wheels.
Yes, I'm going with their Semi float 60 rear for the ease of installation. Also, I agree on that I'm pretty happy with the stock rear sway bar and would just have to come up with a drop bracket and shorter link to make it work with less backspace. Getting new wheels right now is way down the list... axle first for sure!
Great Vid Jason like usual! Do you still choose the fusion front axle for strength and performance? or do you feel a 60 in the front would put more confidence in your corner?
Awesome question! I 've thought about it a lot and my biggest concern with the front was never the ring and pinion but axle tubes and C knuckles/ball joints. The Fusion 44 completely covers those concerns and allows me to save weight and maximize my up-travel. The steering feel and general driving feel of the Jeep has NEVER been better than right now... so yep happy right where I'm at.
All that said though... the only slightly higher price for a D60 center section would offer anyone a major boost in that "peace of mind" feeling... so I would say if at the time of purchase someone can afford that $800 extra for the hybrid D60... do that. But for my Jeep, I'm stoked on the direction I went.
@@AutoEdits thanks for getting back to me Jason! i'm definitly considering it! the weight saving and real estate savings alone looks to be worth it. take care :-)
What are your thoughts on loctite for the inner lugs of the spacers?
Good idea for most people. I am very good at regularly checking them so I sometimes don't put loctite on them.
You want a rear sway bar... I have tried both ways, I am getting a rear anti-rock sway bar soon. I can not live without the rear sway bar in the long run
I learned that very thing with this experiment! Be curious to hear how your anti-rock feels for you.
@@AutoEdits it has to be better than no having one. And I can't use the factory sway any more because of my rear mounted tank. I will ping you over my thoughts when I get the anti rock
@@AutoEdits The rear RockJock Anti-rock is a game changer. I wish I had done it from the beginning of the recent changes made to my jeep. is it better than stock? likely only barely, but I can't run a stock unit on my jeep and I just couldn't live without the rear sway bar. I don't understand people that argue against having a sway bar.
I never removed my spacers either but as you said. It’s another part so it need to be maintained. Twice a year (winter tires up here) I verify the tork. I waiting for my PRP seats. How do you like them?
Still love them!
Jason at 2:33 into the video, is the bolt on your PSC shaft to clamp loose?
Good spot, that's from the install video and the lock washer gives it that look but it's seems tight.
I’d like to see the stance with the wheel spacers. Is it noticeable? Also you forgot to mention the transmission fluid, being overfilled?
To see the Jeep with spacers on, just watch most of the videos before the recent Death Valley trip because they were on there... or stick around... also you are right... I was saving time on this video and cut that transmission section out at the last moment because it was pretty boring. There was a bit of fluid that came out of the breather vent at the top of the transmission (near the shifter) since the sustained high speeds created higher temps. It stood out more to me since I keep the drivetrain fairly clean... that was it. I might do a video on the fluid change on the manual trans for people.
What happened to the rear metalcloak bumper with swing out tire carrier?
ruclips.net/video/QAps4-4alkg/видео.html
Hi jason! How was running without the brake dust shields? We all know how obsessive you are about keeping things clean, wondering how it turned out.
As you can see in this video... so far so good! I'm guessing in deeper mud they would be helpful but I haven't had an issue yet!
Pretty sure I actually linked a video a while back about the rear sway bar. On the JK/JKU (I can’t speak for other models) there’s no reason to remove the rear sway bar. It doesn’t hinder suspension travel at all, and it helps keep the Jeep more stable.
If you linked that one of some dude on an rti ramp... that's just a good example of improperly setup bump stops.
@@AutoEdits I don’t want to get into a debate about it, but I completely disagree. You can run the test yourself with “properly” setup bump stops and still come to the same conclusion. JK/JKU rear sway bar needs to be on.
All I'm telling you here is that video I mentioned is an example of improperly setup bump stops not pro or con of sway bar. That's it. Not sure what else is to debate, I took it off... didn't like it and put it back on. Other than that particular video being incorrect, we agree on the technical aspect.
What about the 1" stretch for the rear that was mentioned on the cti trailer?
I'm not sure that's 100% accurate for this application. Once I get the new rear axle, I will do the measurements again and check it out.
@@AutoEdits that makes sense to check it when you put in the new axle
Where do you get your seat covers at
PRP
Why didn’t you get a wider axle from Fusion instead of the spacers? Or do they not offer width options in the semi float version?
Fusion can custom make whatever you want. Since I'm doing one at a time, it makes more sense to get their off the shelf stock width and accommodate.
I have an 08 wrangler jk and I put a 3.5" lift and the body wobbles side to side a lot more than I like. I heard the rear sway bars are under sized after being lifted. The fact I still have factory rear sway bars and the lift be the reason I am having so much wobble? If so do you have any products you prefer?
I'm running the stock rear sway bar and it feels perfect so what you are experiencing isn't that. Check to see if your track bars are loose and mounted correctly. I don't have preference for aftermarket sway bars since I run stock but my buddy has the SwayLock front and I like the way his drove very much.
Does Fusion 4x4 have a rear 60/44 hybrid? I thought they only sold the semi or full float 60 rears.
The semi float 60 is what I was referring to. Meaning it still uses my wheels and brakes but with a d60 ring and pinion.
@@AutoEdits Oh really? i didnt realize the semi float from Fusion used the same outers as the D44. Thats good to know, thanks! I'm building out a front D44 currently and haven't decided between beefing up the rear D44 or swapping to a D60.
@@drepagaming That's the main selling point of the semi float 60... easy install and all the strength where you need it. D60 ring and pinion and super strong tubes and axles.
@@AutoEdits Thank you! Is there a reason why you didn't go with the 60/44 in the front over the Elite 44? Just for clearance? Not sure if you explained this in one of your videos, apologies if you did.
rear antirock sway bar mabe?
That seems to be the most recommended item.
@@AutoEdits i have them in the front and love them. Trying to order the rear without the wife knowing ha
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At 85mph what rpm was he at?
Looked like around 3k on the video. A good rpm to cruise at with those huge heavy tires.
never impact wrench your lug nuts, but otherwise great video.
Wait, what?