I remember this match. I recorded it on my old VCR and watched the tape countless times. This semi-final was SO much better than the final with Chris and Martina. Hana should have won!
Hana was part of the missing generation of Tennis. That was the generation immediately behind Chris and Martina - Hana, Tracy, Andrea and Pam. Hana by far the most successful of that generatiin winning 4 slams but had the talent to win so much more. Tracy should have dominated the 80s but retired injured, Andrea was making headway but got burnt out & Pam could never cope with Chris and Martina and could never replicate the success she had in doubles in singles. Then there was Sylvia Hanicka remember her?
Very good analysis. Sylvia Hanika, but I could add Bettina Bunge, much more talented, Claudia Kohde Kilsch, Kathy Jordan , Zina Garrison, Helena Sukova and Manuela Maleeva. So much great talents in this era, Women’s tennis didn’t resume to Evert and Martina Navratilova
This match was so close and then Martina destroyed Chris in the final- Chris' worst defeat in her career, 62, 60 (or 60,62?)- the first time Martina beat Chris on clay. The same thing happened a month later at the French- Hana took a set off Martina, then Martina killed Chris in the final- 63,61.
@@paologonzato5202 Yes, FO could easily have been 6-3, 6-0, here it was 6-2, 6-0, and Martina also won 6-2, 6-0 in New York in 83. Oddly, their closest 3 set matches tended to be on grass.
The green clay tournaments in the spring used to be much more important than they are now. They used to be among the first outdoor tournaments after the long winter indoors and established themselves throughout the 80s. It seems as the 90s went on, they became much less important. Monica Seles for example never played the larger green clay tournaments at all during her best years.
@@zeddeka 1992. I was there. Excited that I had tix and would get to see capriati and Seles but capriati lost early and Seles withdrew due to the falling off her bike injury.
@@kloatlantait's interesting - Monica took quite a lot of time off the tour in her peak years. Not saying she was doing it, but they changed the ranking system because they realised it could be gamed if players took time off. In 1992, Monica took 4 weeks off after Wimbledon, then 5 weeks off in October, then followed it with what was then the longest absence from the tour for any #1 from February 1993 until April 1993 when she returned in Hamburg.
This tournament had been promoted as the clash on clay between Chris and Martina- they even did a commercial of them 'looking forward to it' crushing a ball (Chris) and a can (Martina) while glaring at each other. The producers were probably on the edge of their seats.
I have thought that, possibly this is the reason Richard Kaufman overruled that ball at 1-3, 15-30 which would have given Hana break point. Sometimes something like that at such a crucial time can change the outcome, and I think here it likely did.
I havent seen this OR the 2 and 0 final since my Betamax machine died. I lost alot of great stuff becauae of that and tape oxidation. Ive already mentioned, but im BEGGING to see the 84 RG semifinal 5-7,6-2,6-2 to MN...pretty please? Lol
@@hanamandlikovastennis7724 HELLO MY NAME IS MR NEIL FITZGERALD I AM AFTER THE OFFICIAL HISTORY OF WIMBLEDON TENNIS FROM BBC VIDEO BBC2 WIMBLEDON TENNIS WITH MARTINA NAVRATILOVA MATCHES ANYTHING EVERYTHING FOR MR NEIL FITZGERALD PLEASE
Génial ! Merci pour ce match où encore une fois Hana avait tout pour gagner et ne l'a pas fait. Mais bon c'était contre la grande Martina ! Hana est la seule dans ce premier trimestre 84 à lui avoir pris 4 sets : un exploit en soi !
@@hanamandlikovastennis7724 Oui clairement ! C'est sur qu'à 4/1 double break ça aurait très dur à remonter même pour MN. Mais je crois qu'à Oakland Hana a aussi bénéficié d'une erreur d'arbitrage manifeste. En tout cas quel match ! Les troisième est splendide. Hana était en feu sur certains coups. Et on sent Martina à la limite de baisser les bras par instants...
1:17 Mandlikova robbed. Martina knew it was in, and later admitted it was in during the post-match interview. Why didn't the umpire check the mark ? It should have been 4/1 for Hana final set.
it is but i sure don't miss comments like this is the first time a left handed player has hit three aces in a row since john bron did it at the 1957 french open.
Now this is beautiful tennis.
I remember this match. I recorded it on my old VCR and watched the tape countless times. This semi-final was SO much better than the final with Chris and Martina. Hana should have won!
My two favorites Tennis players hands down..Hanna and Martina
That forehand at 7:18 !
Even Martina seemed helpless confused and bewildered
Martina's body language is quite negative here at times. She looks tired and like her mind is wandering after some points.
Martina showing her confidence
Hana was part of the missing generation of Tennis. That was the generation immediately behind Chris and Martina - Hana, Tracy, Andrea and Pam. Hana by far the most successful of that generatiin winning 4 slams but had the talent to win so much more. Tracy should have dominated the 80s but retired injured, Andrea was making headway but got burnt out & Pam could never cope with Chris and Martina and could never replicate the success she had in doubles in singles. Then there was Sylvia Hanicka remember her?
Very good analysis. Sylvia Hanika, but I could add Bettina Bunge, much more talented, Claudia Kohde Kilsch, Kathy Jordan , Zina Garrison, Helena Sukova and Manuela Maleeva. So much great talents in this era, Women’s tennis didn’t resume to Evert and Martina Navratilova
This match was so close and then Martina destroyed Chris in the final- Chris' worst defeat in her career, 62, 60 (or 60,62?)- the first time Martina beat Chris on clay. The same thing happened a month later at the French- Hana took a set off Martina, then Martina killed Chris in the final- 63,61.
I've understood the reason no One posted here the final!because Chris had been destroyed!!6-2 6-0!!!!!OMG.poor Evert fans
@@paologonzato5202 😅😅
In the 2nd set Martina was leading 5-0,0/40 with Chris serving,so Evert was near to Lost 6-3 6-0
@@paologonzato5202 Yes, FO could easily have been 6-3, 6-0, here it was 6-2, 6-0, and Martina also won 6-2, 6-0 in New York in 83. Oddly, their closest 3 set matches tended to be on grass.
@@tobiasisback4605 NY- US Open was 61, 63
The quality of that match...
Simply superb
The green clay tournaments in the spring used to be much more important than they are now. They used to be among the first outdoor tournaments after the long winter indoors and established themselves throughout the 80s. It seems as the 90s went on, they became much less important. Monica Seles for example never played the larger green clay tournaments at all during her best years.
Monica was supposed to play Hilton Head in 1992 but fell off her bike and injured her wrist.
@@zeddeka 1992. I was there. Excited that I had tix and would get to see capriati and Seles but capriati lost early and Seles withdrew due to the falling off her bike injury.
@@kloatlantait's interesting - Monica took quite a lot of time off the tour in her peak years. Not saying she was doing it, but they changed the ranking system because they realised it could be gamed if players took time off. In 1992, Monica took 4 weeks off after Wimbledon, then 5 weeks off in October, then followed it with what was then the longest absence from the tour for any #1 from February 1993 until April 1993 when she returned in Hamburg.
This tournament had been promoted as the clash on clay between Chris and Martina- they even did a commercial of them 'looking forward to it' crushing a ball (Chris) and a can (Martina) while glaring at each other. The producers were probably on the edge of their seats.
I have thought that, possibly this is the reason Richard Kaufman overruled that ball at 1-3, 15-30 which would have given Hana break point. Sometimes something like that at such a crucial time can change the outcome, and I think here it likely did.
I havent seen this OR the 2 and 0 final since my Betamax machine died. I lost alot of great stuff becauae of that and tape oxidation. Ive already mentioned, but im BEGGING to see the 84 RG semifinal 5-7,6-2,6-2 to MN...pretty please? Lol
3/6,6/2,6/2 for MN
It will come... I don't want to publish all the stuff fast and furious_ I want to keep some good stuff to publish little by little...
@@hanamandlikovastennis7724 HELLO MY NAME IS MR NEIL FITZGERALD I AM AFTER THE OFFICIAL HISTORY OF WIMBLEDON TENNIS FROM BBC VIDEO BBC2 WIMBLEDON TENNIS WITH MARTINA NAVRATILOVA MATCHES ANYTHING EVERYTHING FOR MR NEIL FITZGERALD PLEASE
Génial ! Merci pour ce match où encore une fois Hana avait tout pour gagner et ne l'a pas fait.
Mais bon c'était contre la grande Martina !
Hana est la seule dans ce premier trimestre 84 à lui avoir pris 4 sets : un exploit en soi !
Tu noteras que MN a été un peu aidée par l'arbitre sur ce coup-là
@@hanamandlikovastennis7724
Oui clairement !
C'est sur qu'à 4/1 double break ça aurait très dur à remonter même pour MN.
Mais je crois qu'à Oakland Hana a aussi bénéficié d'une erreur d'arbitrage manifeste.
En tout cas quel match !
Les troisième est splendide.
Hana était en feu sur certains coups. Et on sent Martina à la limite de baisser les bras par instants...
Hanna, gracia y talento
Martina was always fair. If she thought her opponent received a bad call, she'd be honest about it. 1:26
1:17 Mandlikova robbed. Martina knew it was in, and later admitted it was in during the post-match interview. Why didn't the umpire check the mark ? It should have been 4/1 for Hana final set.
And im not exxagerating...the world is poorer without Bud Collins in it.
it is but i sure don't miss comments like this is the first time a left handed player has hit three aces in a row since john bron did it at the 1957 french open.
ah- the final was such a fast bust- they had time to show the better match from the SF.
Peak Navratilova... Hana Mandlikova is not far from her.
Peak Martina but in this match she didn't play at her peak standard.
Hana was much better player.
Hana beat her so many times.
and martina beat her much much
more
I too have this match on tape. Hana was robbed for sure....I thought for sure she would beat Nark-tina....