Yeah now a days everyone learns cfop, roux, zz.... I already know cfop but I am learning this so I know another method of speed cubing other than zz, roux
@@emilysilkart It’s on the same level as ZZ, I would say. Unless you’ve really, really tried the method and actually did solves, studied it, searched the web for it and tried to improve the basic techniques, then you haven’t tried it.
@@mistycredo4861 Kind of a mix between Petrus and CFOP; you orient the edges when inserting the last F2L pair www.speedsolving.com/wiki/index.php/Snyder_Method
So you also need to do EO just like in ZZ but here you did it midway not like in ZZ where you do it i the begining. And unlike in ZZ you are almost free to do F and B moves in Petrus. Knowing these methods will surely enhance your CFOP skill. Thanks Shawn for making the video. Super helpful!
@@luccy2606 I tried every method - Yes, but I stuck With CFOP, because I practiced that a lot and I was fastest with that, but I don't know if I would have been faster with Roux if I practiced more
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@@severussnape7602 also: beginner F2L is WAY more algorithms than beginner OLL or PLL, so if you don't get it, then it's time to do a whole lot of memorization. Roux is just easier for me because I understand its block building due to how free it is, and also there are fewer algs
Hey Shawn! Just discovered Petrus, and came across this video. Petrus seems like a really interesting method, and I'm definitely going to give it a try for at least a couple weeks. What are your 2023 thoughts on the topic of Petrus being a viable speedcubing method? Do you still think that in the right minds and fingers, Petrus can be just as fast as CFOP or Roux? Thanks!
I feel ZZ has more of a chance than Petrus mainly because of the EO step being in the middle of the solve. It certainly could get great times around 6 second averages but with the insane 4 second averages now I feel the mindless spamming of TPS is what's taking over.
White blue edge is good and red green edge is bad in first example at 6:00 relative to green / blue face first but you did a y rotation to put the empty slots at front right and back right.
@@SpeedCubeReview The 4 bad edges could be put on the F face and rotated clockwise or anti clockwise 90 degrees in a more move count efficient way. The y rotation would not be necessary. I see it from edge orientation perspective.
Of course, the reason you rotate in Petrus is for speed. You do zero F moves to orient the edges. It can be a bit tricky to grasp the switch from what one might do in zz or FMC, but it's definitely is worth it to do the y rotation.
I tried petrus by combining it with roux while doing block building so no need rotation in this progress plus when I do EO I didnt rotate also instead of making it in front I do it on the side……it made my whole solving doent need any rotation
I’m confused. He said the blue and white was bad with white in front and blue on the right, but all he had to do to solve it was R then U'. Is U' not allowed?
This is what I meant where it's a bit different with Petrus and how I almost missed it in the video. It is a "bad" edge but for the red/orange side and we are doing exactly what was mentioned (R then U') to fix it. So with holding green in front we are fixing the "bad" edges for red and orange. The reason for doing it this way instead of holding red/orange in front is that you do R and L moves instead of F moves to fix it, and then do a y rotation to finish off the first two layers.
So I hold it in one orientation to orient, then rotate to complete the solve. This means that an edge is bad if I *can* fix it with R or L when holding the cube in the first way, because after the rotation I could not do that, and that is the point of orienting, to do as much as possible with R, L, and U moves. Makes sense now, at least in my head. Looking at the cube, I still have trouble figuring out what is good and what is bad without actually trying to solve the edges.
The relationship between Petrus, APB, and 8355 is interesting. ZZ's EO stuff seems to indicate it was based on petrus. And Roux resembles corners-first. They both end up at some point with only 6 edges unsolved, so they can swap endings. It comes down to a judgement regarding how useful the top layer is as free space during the middle part. Having solved some edges doesn’t make solving the last four corners easier or harder, it's the first four corners that limit things. So Roux is smarter, but corners-first is fun.
I get that. I feel like if I did only this method I would get used to it, but switching betwene methods kept making me confused on which type of EO I am doing.
I'm a CFOP solver and just wanted to kinda learn Petrus for fun even if people say it is shitty and... oh god it is really shitty!! But at least studying Petrus I learnt a new way to insert the white cross edges with M U2 M' or M U M' depending on the case (there are 2) This technique is useful when you get a set up f2l pair during a solve and wanna to insert it but don't wanna destroy it during the cross ;)
There are multiple on the channel. There is a long one on the FMC tutorial ruclips.net/video/YCuDT4Bfg4s/видео.html I go over it on this video and also in the ruclips.net/video/yVCbL1S2AnI/видео.html ZZ tutorial. If you are not understanding feel free to ask questions.
It can be. It seems that because people don't do it it doesn't have enough data to show it's potential. Similarly with Roux until a world record was set with it. It could be but because CFOP is so popular I don't think there will be enough people ever using it unless one person starts setting records with it.
The more clear definition is that bad edges you need an R or L move to solve (Specifically for Petrus from that angle). So you make it that all edges can be solved with only U and F moves. The colors I describe are the shortcut of what to look for instead of thinking about every single edge.
I’m trying to learn how to solve a cube for the first time. I appreciate the effort that went into making this but I’m realizing it isn’t really oriented towards beginners as it uses a lot of jargon without explaining what any of it means. F2L, B move, I’m already lost.
@@SpeedCubeReview awesome thanks, I’m getting my cube soon and look forward to using it to learn. The reason I was looking at the Petrus tutorial is because I recently befriended the guy himself and thought it’d be cool to learn the method he created so many years ago.
The way I show in the video is an easy trick to look at colors, but you can also look to see that an edge is a bad edge if you cannot put it in the right place without needing to do R or L moves (When the 223 block is on the back)
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Finally a real Petrus tutorial!!!
Yeah now a days everyone learns cfop, roux, zz.... I already know cfop but I am learning this so I know another method of speed cubing other than zz, roux
Agreed
as a petrus user this is the best tutorial out there! good job on putting attention to the method (=
Petrus isn’t a good method
That's a misconception. It can be just as fast as the other major methods.
@@surcubing ok
@@SpeedCubeReview no
@@emilysilkart It’s on the same level as ZZ, I would say. Unless you’ve really, really tried the method and actually did solves, studied it, searched the web for it and tried to improve the basic techniques, then you haven’t tried it.
Petrus seem fun to show off a rare solving method
gotta learn Snyder method after this video is out
@@mistycredo4861 Kind of a mix between Petrus and CFOP; you orient the edges when inserting the last F2L pair www.speedsolving.com/wiki/index.php/Snyder_Method
Its still in the big 4
The Belt Solving one is also great , but takes way to many moves and thinking
@@cyber_gypsygaming7452 “great” is a very strong word in this case
So you also need to do EO just like in ZZ but here you did it midway not like in ZZ where you do it i the begining. And unlike in ZZ you are almost free to do F and B moves in Petrus. Knowing these methods will surely enhance your CFOP skill. Thanks Shawn for making the video. Super helpful!
Thank you so much I have been wanting to try petrus but this is the first good tutorial that’s helpful
I like speed cube review because he's one of the the major cubing RUclipsr who actually replys to comments
Thank you
I am trying all the methods now and look what I like best, this week I'm trying petrus
Whats the method did u find the easiest and fastest?
@@luccy2606 I tried every method - Yes, but I stuck With CFOP, because I practiced that a lot and I was fastest with that, but I don't know if I would have been faster with Roux if I practiced more
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finally a REAL Petrus tutorial!
wow u just copied a comment
@@Ybalisien oh i didn't. wsa just an accident
@@ericzhu6620 you did
@@elespantaviejas-ly4mb No seriously it's just a coincidence, I swear!
@@Ybalisien even if he copied,should he pay for that lol??
This is my favorite video of yours because i learned the petrus method through this video 😆i’m from the giveaway video btw :)
What is your average?
for the very first example solve EO could've been done like that: R U2 R2' F R which is very fast
Thank you so much!
Now i can understands Petrus Tutorial
The best Petrus tutorial i found. thank u.
Another useful tutorial, thanks. There are other things I want to learn first but I'll save this one for later.
My favourite video on teaching how to solve a cube after CFOP
Thank you Shawn for the Peter tutorial, I understand now 🙏
Thank you so much!
This is a tutorial I can finally understand
not for me
God I waited for so long I always wanted to learn petrus thanks.
This is my favorite video of yours! I’m not going to use this for speed solving but it’s really interesting
This series is one of my favorites.
Woahh new methods?
New in 1981
Woah cubing encoded
Haha 0 likes cube encoded
hey
I needed this!
How you keep the stickered logo clean? If I apply a logo, then it gets dirty on the sides really quickly
Keep your hands clean and you can also use something to clean around the edges of the sticker that's relatively sharp.
Hey there.I love logos so what I do is cover it with packing tape.it sticks really well and its thin and strong. I use a plastic razorblade thingy to make sure is really in there and then run it around the edges of the centerpiece so it really clings in there. Then user a razor blade to cut around the edge leaving a tiny bit of the tape that goes over the edge. That way your logo is encapsulated in there and last a really long time.packing tape is really good imo.and you'll never get dirty edges. If you've ever retaped a skateboard its a similar method for going around the centerpiece.
X2 colour nuetralitly is also what you’ll see in a lot of higher level roux solvers
This is the only petrus tutorial i found
Cool method
went to roux to learn block building
never came back
I went to roux because I’m a beginner and F2L was difficult imo. Never going back
@@0Aquamelon f2l was difficult?what? Its like the easiest part of CFOP
@@severussnape7602it was the most difficult to follow in a tutorial.
@@0Aquamelon just watch j perm's tutorial you'll get it down
@@severussnape7602 also: beginner F2L is WAY more algorithms than beginner OLL or PLL, so if you don't get it, then it's time to do a whole lot of memorization. Roux is just easier for me because I understand its block building due to how free it is, and also there are fewer algs
100K soon✌️
Nice video
I love this method
Hey Shawn! Just discovered Petrus, and came across this video. Petrus seems like a really interesting method, and I'm definitely going to give it a try for at least a couple weeks. What are your 2023 thoughts on the topic of Petrus being a viable speedcubing method? Do you still think that in the right minds and fingers, Petrus can be just as fast as CFOP or Roux? Thanks!
I feel ZZ has more of a chance than Petrus mainly because of the EO step being in the middle of the solve. It certainly could get great times around 6 second averages but with the insane 4 second averages now I feel the mindless spamming of TPS is what's taking over.
Petrus looks cool!
White blue edge is good and red green edge is bad in first example at 6:00 relative to green / blue face first but you did a y rotation to put the empty slots at front right and back right.
The white/blue is bad for this. It's in a way opposite of what your world do in zz. You are protecting edges for the adjacent face.
@@SpeedCubeReview The 4 bad edges could be put on the F face and rotated clockwise or anti clockwise 90 degrees in a more move count efficient way. The y rotation would not be necessary. I see it from edge orientation perspective.
Of course, the reason you rotate in Petrus is for speed. You do zero F moves to orient the edges. It can be a bit tricky to grasp the switch from what one might do in zz or FMC, but it's definitely is worth it to do the y rotation.
do you know how to solve square one?
nOooooooo
I tried petrus by combining it with roux while doing block building so no need rotation in this progress plus when I do EO I didnt rotate also instead of making it in front I do it on the side……it made my whole solving doent need any rotation
The Cube looks so small in ur hands, great tutorial btw
Hi.. For improving my look ahead, which other method should I learn.. Or limit to cfop?
As a roux user, i this as an absolute win!
I do it like cfop but while solving a 2 by 2 block I'm trying to do oll to
petrus be popping of
My favourite video, very very nice method
This is my favourite video.
This guy is a mega Chad… he made a tutorial of Petrus method
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
or you can just use petr-... or you can just use CFOP
isn't the 2x2x3 in the apb step too?
I solved my Rubik’s cube this way without even knowing it was a method ;-;
My fav methods roux and cfop
Thoughts on doing EO on the right rather than on the front?
I did that originally but it's much slower. Doing a bunch of F moves instead of R and L moves.
I’m confused. He said the blue and white was bad with white in front and blue on the right, but all he had to do to solve it was R then U'. Is U' not allowed?
This is what I meant where it's a bit different with Petrus and how I almost missed it in the video. It is a "bad" edge but for the red/orange side and we are doing exactly what was mentioned (R then U') to fix it.
So with holding green in front we are fixing the "bad" edges for red and orange. The reason for doing it this way instead of holding red/orange in front is that you do R and L moves instead of F moves to fix it, and then do a y rotation to finish off the first two layers.
So I hold it in one orientation to orient, then rotate to complete the solve. This means that an edge is bad if I *can* fix it with R or L when holding the cube in the first way, because after the rotation I could not do that, and that is the point of orienting, to do as much as possible with R, L, and U moves. Makes sense now, at least in my head. Looking at the cube, I still have trouble figuring out what is good and what is bad without actually trying to solve the edges.
The relationship between Petrus, APB, and 8355 is interesting. ZZ's EO stuff seems to indicate it was based on petrus.
And Roux resembles corners-first. They both end up at some point with only 6 edges unsolved, so they can swap endings. It comes down to a judgement regarding how useful the top layer is as free space during the middle part. Having solved some edges doesn’t make solving the last four corners easier or harder, it's the first four corners that limit things. So Roux is smarter, but corners-first is fun.
I get that. I feel like if I did only this method I would get used to it, but switching betwene methods kept making me confused on which type of EO I am doing.
I'm a CFOP solver and just wanted to kinda learn Petrus for fun even if people say it is shitty and... oh god it is really shitty!! But at least studying Petrus I learnt a new way to insert the white cross edges with M U2 M' or M U M' depending on the case (there are 2)
This technique is useful when you get a set up f2l pair during a solve and wanna to insert it but don't wanna destroy it during the cross ;)
Is this a speedcubing methoud or just a general method?
Both
It’s speedsolving designed to use very little moves But it’s no longer a method many people use,
Nice like it
I am the 1000th like
Btw I am here bc I am exploring methods, thanks to u
My main solving method is cfop
Its pretty much like cfop but u start with a block instead of a solved side
After making a block, doing EO opens up a whole lot of more options for last layer. That is where ZBLL comes in and not possible on CFOP without EO.
Does anyone know any good eo tutorials?
There are multiple on the channel. There is a long one on the FMC tutorial ruclips.net/video/YCuDT4Bfg4s/видео.html I go over it on this video and also in the ruclips.net/video/yVCbL1S2AnI/видео.html ZZ tutorial.
If you are not understanding feel free to ask questions.
Thunderclap v3m, qiyi ms 3x3 or yulong v2m please.
Ms
Get the yuxin little magic m
Yuchuang v2m or ms 5x5?
Ms
Petrus method please come back 😢
In my opinion Petrus is better than ZZ. If I will do Petrus I will not do EO lmao because I think it’s slower.
I think petrus without eo is actually freefop
Oh, I heard that before but I thought they’re the same 😂 thanksss
What is the name of the cube your using
@TheTalentlessCuber I would really want one
Special edition 354. You can save with discount code SCR speedcubeshop.com/products/speedcubereview-354-v2-magnetic-3x3
@@SpeedCubeReview but can't you just give away even if it's just one cube pls, cause am really broke right now
I'm not a shop. I don't have random cubes. Even a Rubiks brand isn't holding you back.
@@SpeedCubeReview ok
Or you could do petr.. wait oh nice
ayooooooo dis my fav vid
Can we get a advanced tutorial
What are you confused on?
unfortunately Petrus wasn't developed as much as CFOP or Roux, so you can't really have an advanced tutorial, unless you can learn all of the zblls
Yay!
mantap bang.
why is petrus not seen as viable any more?
It can be. It seems that because people don't do it it doesn't have enough data to show it's potential. Similarly with Roux until a world record was set with it.
It could be but because CFOP is so popular I don't think there will be enough people ever using it unless one person starts setting records with it.
I aways do petus as its how I learned to solve the cube without algorithms and only needed algorithms for the last layer
Just need to learn the fast advanced method to improve my speed and get sub 10
Why not just use zz?
I already can do ZZ. The benefits of a Petrus are a lower move count and more flexibility at the beginning
What happens if you do eo as the first step?
You would be doing something more like ZZ
@@SpeedCubeReview yeah, but a weird mix between both. So coming from a zz point of view: why does petrus eo in the middle?
To allow more mobility and efficiency for that black building.
i cant understand the good or bad edges
The more clear definition is that bad edges you need an R or L move to solve (Specifically for Petrus from that angle). So you make it that all edges can be solved with only U and F moves.
The colors I describe are the shortcut of what to look for instead of thinking about every single edge.
@@SpeedCubeReview oh
Why did you say there are only 7 oll algs??
There are only 7 when the edges are oriented. You always have the edges oriented in Petrus so you only need 7 OLLs
@@SpeedCubeReview Oooh okay thank you. i cannot believe you just responded to my comment. I love your channel ❤
This video is very helpful for beginners, excellent content. Surely it will motivate others to follow.
I #BrainBlitzAudios appreciate it.👌👌🧡🧡🧡😊😊😊👍👍
Hello
id like to know what the joke is about petrus. i havent been around long enough to get it
Orrr u can just use petrus
Wow i alrdy now petrus idk how
Ok there is no way that this was released i 3 months ago
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@SpeedCubeReview Face !
I’m trying to learn how to solve a cube for the first time. I appreciate the effort that went into making this but I’m realizing it isn’t really oriented towards beginners as it uses a lot of jargon without explaining what any of it means. F2L, B move, I’m already lost.
Correct. That is where the beginner tutorial comes in. ruclips.net/video/eFFB0e2nABk/видео.html
@@SpeedCubeReview awesome thanks, I’m getting my cube soon and look forward to using it to learn. The reason I was looking at the Petrus tutorial is because I recently befriended the guy himself and thought it’d be cool to learn the method he created so many years ago.
i agree
Where are the timestamps
For what? There is no need for that in this video.
Why Follow A Tutorial? You Could Just Use Petrus
Kind of confusing but I eventually got it
Next video: *how to get faster with the petrus method*
Btw It is called Dual color newtrality
Or you can just use FreeFop
yay
Gan x v2 Or gan xs??
Gan 354.
Xd
No gan 356 x v2 not gan 354 v2
lololl
if you ignore that one edge,he will be sad
Petrus is going down with zz
the eo step si really confusing i still dont understand it
About what is a bad edge or how to fix it
this is like the mix of zz and roux
Or you could just use Petrus...
Your cube is on the left side so much
Correct, so text and other images are on the right.
All these non-CFOP methods are so confusing 😂
Feel free to ask questions if you would like
Here from 2024
your tutorial how to place pieces is to fast at times so this is a very hard and stressfull tutorial to follow.
You can always slow the video down with the settings in the video. If there is something that is confusing you are always free to ask. :)
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Petros
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Coincidence???
Maybe not
patreon
Just learn cfop or roux
All three ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
thanks for the migraine
If you are having trouble understanding you are free to ask questions and I would be happy to help clear things up :-)
This tutorial is really confusing
What are you confused on?
Edge Orientation
The way I show in the video is an easy trick to look at colors, but you can also look to see that an edge is a bad edge if you cannot put it in the right place without needing to do R or L moves (When the 223 block is on the back)