Unapologetic, the Klipsch RP600M ii Exemplifies the Klipsch Sound - The Klipsch RP600M ii Review
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These do measure flatter than the Mk i, more importantly the crossover point avoids the really bad phase issues of the OG. So really this is just a improved more refined version of the "Klipsch sound" without the flaws and thats a good thing.
Good review, You’re right they do mate better with certain amps, I have the original 600m’s and have them mated with my Marantz 1511 receiver, the 1511 has a setting that you can roll off the highs a little which sounds wonderful with my 600m’s. I love these speakers.
I totally agree, I’ve owned a lot of speakers, Klipsch are always fun. Not refined… but fun!
I'm hanging on to my Klipsch RP-600M because they got relegated to my office (90%)time spent here and teamed up with a vintage Sansui with loudness. Sometimes switch over to a vintage Technics. All genuine fun.
Great review Randy! Sounds like we like the same music...which helps when making decisions on speaker. Can't wait to hear them on my Emotiva A2!
Wish you would review the Klipsch RP-800F ll. Great review Randy of the RP-600M ll.
Great video Randy, I always trust your judgement. It is clear you know what you are talking about when it comes to all things audio. Keep up the good work good man.
Happy 4th from Kent and Rosa , I did get the Polk Xt 20 you recommend pair great with the Xt 35 center. ! Take Care
Randy has 108k subscribers, Nice work Pal!🍻🤗
Just stopping by to say thank you for the content. I can't watch the review yet, but I'm very excited about this one. Have a great day!
Thanks, you too!
Thanks for the great review Randy! hope you could also review the 6000f and 5000f MKII and give us your perspective on how they compare to their bookshelf siblings even though i know you have a preference for bookshelf speakers lol
Great review Randy. Everyone should have a pair of Klipsch speakers around the house if you like the Klipsch sound. I couldn't agree more, but I am 2 generations behind, have to think about upgrading when some sales start happening.
Make me an offer on my piano black mk1s. :)
I love Klipsch, I will listen to the new ones for shure but never will get rid of my RP-600m. They sound so good with my Marantz PM7000n. I still may get the new ones if the sound is clearly different.
I have them paired with the Cambridge axa25. The axa25 tames the 600 II highs and the 600 II brings out the axa25’s bass, especially in quiet listening.
any speaker that makes Mumford and Sons enjoyable should get all the awards possible
Good review. I recently picked up the original RP600Ms directly from Klipsch for $250. Couldn’t resist. Regarding the soundstage on these speakers: sitting near field with the speakers 6 feet apart and toed in slightly, the music sounds like it’s coming from the speakers, between the speakers, or directly in front of you, as well as over the speakers. It’s really pretty incredible and I have no idea how they accomplish this.
I have waiting for this review from you 😊
Can you review the RP-500M II as well? Thanks for the informative videos!
I would love to see a review of the F model, as I have purchsed the RP5000F, Love it....
Thank you for the review. Knowing the employee cost it wouldn't surprise me if they end up close to 550 as the "low" number of the sales range. Picked them up for my rear and surround speakers in a 7.2.4 setup
Nice review. You hit all the critical points for me. I suspect these might be fun with a Chinese tube amp!
Thank you.
Warning, you may never go back to solid state amps...
Just got my SVS Ultras and Elac Carina 243.4s .. so no new speakers for me. Thanks for the review though. You bring enlightenment and wonderful sound to many. Take care.
Terrific analysis of how this speaker sounds. I appreciate your forthright appraisal. Klipsch makes no apologies for being Klipsch.
I just acquired the Klipsch RP-6000F II for an insane deal. These are different in a good way. Not as bright and a bit more midrange detail. So far I am enjoying them.
Great review!
Can you share what's the deal ?
@@RanTausi It was through a seller on Facebook marketplace. They test products for free and can sell when done.
Congrats on your ,6000F. My uncle bought today a second hand RP 260 F which they are the previous model , he paid 700 $
@@kevinbehnke7149 Great achievement
I love Klipsch sales... got a pair of RP-160M for 250 dollars. I've heard 600Ms in a shop and honestly couldn't say that there were a lot of difference between 160 and 600. Though 600-2 might be a real upgrade now.
$454, free shipping, Crutchfield. Nice review, thank you.
Thanks for the review. You closed with pairing, and it’s been on my mind so much lately. Do subwoofers also benefit from thoughtful pairing or is clean bass more the same across the board. If I’m getting Klipsch speakers is there a strong reason to stick to Klipsch subwoofer?
Great video. Quick question, im looking for a center speaker, so would the RP-504C II center speaker over power the RP-600M II? Or would I get better sound with the RP-500C II, and the RP-600M II.
Respectfully,
Al
How do they compare to the evo 4.1s? They seem to be around the same price. I want to get a pair of 4.1s, but their lack of vertical imaging still keeps me on the search for something else.
Great review Randy. I’ve been a Klipsch fan for a long time. Viewers of this video should listen carefully to your component matching recommendations. I like my gear warm… sometimes glowing (tubes)! My gen-one
RP- 600Ms are great with low watt tube amps. Happy Fourth of July.
I was going to make this comment as well! Totally agree
Same here! I just picked up a pair a few months ago and hooked it up to my 8 w/Chan SET and it sounds so transparent with sweet mids. Really tamed the treble nicely.
Totally agree. I bet the tubes really kick out the bass and mids to balance out the sharp highs, right? Amp makes a difference yes.
@@peterbaugh51 oh absolutely. Couldn’t be happier
Please do the new floor standing 600 and 500 series. You gave a great review on those of last year's version.
Hey Cheap great review. What about Yamaha Advantage receiver? Good pairing or a no no ?
Randy, Happy Father's Day! I am a very big fan of yours and always enjoy and learn something new from your videos. Great job with this one too! I just purchased a pair of Klipsch RP-160M from Cruthfield about 2 weeks ago for $299 on sale. This model was replaced by the RP 600M. Now that they're broken in, they sound fantastic with my Yamaha RX-A3080 and 2 YST-SW315's (10" subs from Yamaha). Would you consider doing a video comparing the new RP-600M with the RP-160M? Just curios. Take care, Joe C.
I think I may have made that exact video a while back. the 160m is similar to the 600's. the first gen. great speaker at a great price
yeah, I got these bad boys under 500 direct from Kplisch and wow blew my mind! I heard them with and with out my sub and loved it more w/the sub but still enjoyed them without. My next project will be to take these speakers to the next level by getting a GR-Reasearch crossover upgrade.
Great review, Randy. How do these compare to the Monitor Audio Bronze 100? 🤘🤘
Are those audiophile ferns in the TV room? I have to agree with your view that Klipsch sound great with warmer amps. My Klipsch/300b combo is a fantastic pairing.
Great review Randy, unbiased and fair!
Agree!
Randy can you PLEASE try to get your hands on some MartinLogan Motion 35XTi’s! Would love to hear your thoughts on those beasts!
Randy, if you ever get the chance and/or come across any vintage B&K Components amplifiers like the ST-140 or EX-442 etc., Snag one up and pair your Klipsch RP-500m or 600II to it. I'm convinced there is absolutely no better of a solid state amp matching combo for the Klipsch sound signature. Even better than pairing with my vintage NAD 3020 Series 20 amp (both are considered warm). The B&K amps are like a budget-minded Nelson Pass design with super short signal paths and far better than his budget ADCOM stuff he personally designed that were their primary rivals of the time and classics as well. Stereophile raved over them and even said that the ST-140 was the first enjoyable solid state amp they had ever heard when searching for something that was reminiscent of tube amps. Budget king amps of the late 80s and 90s. IMO the very best vintage/used value amplifier one can possibly buy when searching for the highest value warm sounding amplifier, used of course. New I agree with your Cambridge recommendation. 👍🏻Klipsch and a B&K ST-140 on eBay for around $200-400 will beat almost any amplifier/Klipsch combo until you get to several THOUSAND dollars for new gear. Maybe if I get a second B&K soon I'll send you an ST-140 to borrow haha 😅😁👍🏻🤘🏻 as always, much love, brother! I hope you've been enjoying Metallica live videos as much as I have with hell being frozen over aka Lars playing on original tempo and more importantly, TIGHT, and James' voice sounding better than 10 years ago. Yes, we are alive, and, Damn, it feels good. Cannot kill the battery 😎
The Fletcher Munson thing comes into play for me. I live in an apartment and am very conscious of not being rude to my neighbors, and I've never liked listening to music that loud anyway, so a speaker with a mild bump in the treble and bass works for me. It makes the music feel just a little more alive at the fairly low volumes I listen at. "Cranking it" (something I almost never do) for me is maybe 70db. Most of my listening is probably more like the mid-to-low 60s.
I totally agree with this. I’ve tried out lots of different speakers for fun in the last few years and I’ve definitely discovered that I gravitate towards slightly “U/V-shaped” speakers because I almost always listen at sub-80db volumes. I totally respect speakers with a ruler flat response and get why it’s an engineering goal, but a lot of those flat-measuring speakers sound lifeless to me a low volumes.
All spekers sound better with a tube amp at any volume. Try one. Its like a tube amp has "auto loudness" function full time. But behaves when you turn it up. Some solid state amps sound great down low with loudness on, if you can find one. Agreed.
I purchased a pair of NEW RP-600M II on eBay, but grade B/open box, for half retail price. In fact I purchased all my Klipsch speakers this way. All came brand new, and I did find one tiny ding on one cabinet on my pair of RP-8000F II.
Got mine b stock as well $409 with tax and shipping
Bought a set on sale, still 750 canadian, running a yamaha As-801 amp, wicked combination dynamic and does the band disturbed to concert levels with no distortion or excess brightness, i dont even use the sub most of the time unless im in competition with the neiborette.
What sample do you use for your title screens? I just can't quite put my finger on it.
Would you pick the Klipsch RP 600m (v1) over the Jamo S809s? Right now I can get either for the same price
Hello, mister.
When can we see your active speakers rewiew?
Interesting speakers, maybe for my bedroom even though I already have better speakers for the task. 1st gen RF-7s in the LR system with RC-7/RS-7s and RSW12 sub.
Do you think the Yamaha A-S801 would be a good fit with these?
Hey Randy, now, I heard you're a longtime Klipsch fan. There were two other Klipsch brands that are now defunct, Mirage and Energy. Did you ever get a chance to listen to any of the Mirage or Energy loudspeakers?
We’re you testing just as 2.0 or 2.1 with a sub for TV/movie duty?
When the 600M MkI was first released it was $549, then increased to $649 and finally $699 throughout the last couple years.
I have the MkI that I paid $300 refurbished and owned for over two years, powered by a NAD D3045 integrated and I thought it’s a good combo. I’m tempted to try MkII but I’ll wait till these hit $400 and below.
Inflation is high everywhere
Remember, people voted for the inflation. It must be a good thing. No really, with such a tight market, companies must bust balls to compete. We win either way, if you can cut costs and get in on some of these great deals. Buy low. Sell high.
Now I see on ebay for 399 open box just damaged the packing box. I have MKi piano black . I like it the looks better than II.
Randy, you should get a pair of Wharfedale Denton 80th Anniversary from Music Direct, usually between $499 - $599, it has the build quality of a $1K speaker and actually in my opinion sounds a bit better than the Denton 85th.
Sound aside, the build quality alone with real wood veneer makes them a bargain at $500
What are your other websites ? I'd like to see them !
Love this guy a real everyday meathead like all of us an honest look at stuff
Nice camera work there. That speaker looked heavy. 😉
Thanks!
thank you so much, Skye!
klipsch needs to make Tower speakers 8 inch single driver speakers again love my t 3000
RP600M's are on sale for $300 at Adorama this week.
Klipsch RP160M on sale for $199 also the fluance reference $129 and signature $169 both on sale. I'm thinking Klipsch? Like Fluance though and for the price what do you think?
how do these or the first gen pair with denon AVRs ?
NAD C388 is a good amp to use with Klipsch speakers.
Like your taste in music.
Pairing is a great point/issue to raise that I suspect a lot of people are not aware of.
I’ve said before, the 600M to me was quite harsh, shrill even at higher levels when paired with a mid range class D.
The 600 MII is less harsh up high, but still has that Klipsch sound. They both sounded nice at lower levels paired to a small tube amp.
I want a speaker that can play loud, but not one that is fatiguing, so do I get a different speaker, or just turn down the treble?
I have a marantz 2265b, with either the 15k or 9kz filter on and it's pretty amazing...
Damn 7 minutes late Moring Randy thanks for posting
I think you should go back a little, to some the groups that made the bands you enjoy listening to today possible. How long has it been since you listened to Killer, and School's Out? Or even Easy Action? If there had never been an Alice Cooper, there would most certainly never have been a Cinderella. At least, check out Halo of Flies, Desperado, and Dead Babies from Killer. Hard to recommend any singles from School's Out, 'cause the whole album is just so damn much fun to listen to.
When these go on sale, they will be worth it. But yeah, pretty much an A/B is required.
How does the speaker pair with ayima or some of the other Chinese amps that youbhave reviewed? I found a great deal here in Australia on the originals but still looking for an amp. Its either a used 10 year old Marantz etc or one of the Chinese amps. This will be replacing a sound bar setup so how does the dialogue sound? Main use will be movies or TV shows.
Is this for real?
No, that’s a scammer!
You have changed my life so thank you
Just a note about the Sony SSCS5s in your recommended list. They have been running between $180-$200+ the last couple of weeks. Hopefully it's a short term thing but just thought you should know for future recommendations.
I was lucky enough to get sweet used pair from Amazon for only $75!
@@ADREISTER I got a pair back when they were only $88 last November. I was talking to a buddy and was recommending them for a starter budget option. But then saw they were over $200. Wtaf?
Do yourself a big favor and get the Dr.Butcher vinyl !
Awesome stuff!
The RP-500m V1's are currently $300 on Amazon... Worth it for someone just getting into the hobby?
MY og 600M's are 2 years old, and i feel no need to change them. They are horrible with the Emotiva TA1. I bought some SSCS 5's and they are damn good with the TA1. Thanks for putting little chapters in your vids...it was about damn time.
Glad Randy mentioned pairing these speakers with the right amp. It’s important. I play mine through a old pioneer SX-3700 45 watts receiver. Sounds great!
I don't daily drive my Klipsch (rp600m and rp280f). But when I do rotate them into the system it's either incredibly satisfying or it's a reminder of why they couldn't be my ONE set.
It's either "how do you do that? (In a great way) or "why did you do THAT?" (When they fall short)
Great way to frame that up
I have. The old version of these speakers and they sit on a shelf very close to the wall (no choice). Should I plug the rear port? If so with what?
You should do what sounds better to you
A sock in each port
@@nacarp2000 sweat sock or dress one?
I enjoy the original the RP-600M so much, I personally don't feel the need to replace them with the RP-600M II. But I think that's going to be the question. If you already own the RP-600M is it worth updating/upgrading to the RP-600M II?
No stick with the originals otherwise you will always be spending more money for no good reason.
@@Gadgetdad007 I agree. I own the original 600's and the MK2 seems to be a marginal upgrade.
@@TheMack the originals have more bass slam and that’s what i like.
@@Gadgetdad007 Agreed. That's why we like Klipsch, to get that fun factor 😀
@@Gadgetdad007 buy a cheap subwoofer instead and pair it with the first gen Klipsch...
I like dynamic speakers for theater but for music I like something more natural. These look great, but yeah, they are too pricey.
I'm not an audiophile, i can't afford to be lol, but from what I've heard end read in reviews, i can't see Klipsch being the kind of sounds i would want to buy into.
I can't say for definite until i heard live, but what i hear in videos, i always end up preferring the alternative option when compared to each other
Should I sell my Lascalla's
Which speakers up to 800,00USD$ (but preferably less, or something that goes on sale often for less) you believe is THE very best pair in terms of pure micro and macro detail retrieving and revealing, please? Just detail troughout all frequencies, making you listen to things you never did before in songs, without caring much about anything else other than pure sound information, and specially not caring much at all about bass.
Love the aggro of the previous model with my metal and punk records (got a coupla late 70s, early 80s amps) These just don't cut it. Better for jazz and classical sure, but not my cuppa.....coffee !
I put cork mats under my DIY speakers. I guess I must be really smart then
I’ll be doing more of that. It’s a great idea!
I'm rocking a pioneer VSX-d509 and some Vintage Realistic speakers 8in W w/ tweeter on stands. I use a 1Mii BT receiver. Actually sounds good to decent. How much improvement would a new receiver be?
So..you and I have very similar music tastes! Add some Kix, Kiss, Panterra! I'm redoing my entire system and was planning to get these along with the Rotel A12MKII. But, someone brought up the Sonos Faber Lumina 1 or 2's. They are twice the cost. But which would you go for with the type of music listed?!
You have good taste in music. I've had the 600's with a Rotel A14. Sure, they are fun and kicks a punch, but at least the originals had a big hole where the main midrange should meet the tweeter. That results in electric guitars that sounds thin and without body and "meat". It was hard to get a subwoofer to meet the speaker at the right crossover, also making for a "hole" in the presentation. The Klipsch's are great for radio pop and standard rock, but not so much for Heaven's On Fire or Cowboys From Hell 😄 After a year I bought a pair of JBL HDI-3600 instead and they satisfy me to great lengths 😄
@@TheMack back when music was fun! My Black Sabbath, Dio, Ozzy, Iron Maiden albums are still close to my heart. Fell back in love with vinyl also...the way its going, this gift to myself is going to be $$$$. I have enough expensive hobbies! Lol
@@kawlreaper he he, so true! I love all those bands, was listening to Black Sabbath live album "The End", man just listen to "Dirty women"! The mix is great and sounds killer! Although, unfortunately, for us metal heads, judging a hi-end system when playing Ozzy's "Crazy babies" is not exactly "hi-fi" 😅 Nowadays I buy equipment that plays MY music well, even if it was recorded in a pizza box 😄
Nice ferns Frat Boy. Trying your hand at set decoration? LOL... keep going brother. Classic stuff.
Adorama has the previous generation for 300 (!). I cannot post the link here it seems...
I filter out the links automatically. People post all sorts of craziness in here.
$549.00 is what I'm seeing...
This is what I see right now:
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If you look at Erin's channel and website, he compares the FR of the original 500 and 600 to the new versions. The tweeters are still quite hot, almost the same response between the MKI and MKII versions. The biggest difference is that the new 500 and 600 don't have the big dip between 2 and 3khz that the originals have
Klipsch going to be like jtr shape horn. Klipsch should make new RF-7 IV with same shape as a RP-8000F II and put same twitter from germany as a jtr do
Buy the RP 500 they measure better and sound better, even thow the meqsurement are kind of crap on both for what they charge from them.
$397 on Amazon for 1st Gen
Sad that klipsch got bought out by audiovox they are known to cheapen the product for higher profits. ☹️
Funny how I also use Chocolate chip trip as a test track as well
I believe the price should be no more then 550 to max 600 USD , 750 $ is too expensive I would say.
Specs are never complete or all encompassing, which renders them somewhat unusable.
It is so much easier to perceive a given amount of loudness between 750 and 2 kHz, than it is above and below that range,
so standardized SPL measurements could maybe be best represented @ 1.25 kHz; but since, however, it takes much more sound to perceive low frequencies and high frequencies at the same volume, so I’ve got a wonder that, even if the readings are averaged over frequency, how would one ever really know how “easy” it is
to drive a pair of loudspeakers to get decent low frequency response. 😉
It seems to me that any speaker with a forward sound and a high SPL rating may be just as hard or harder to drive to a decent out bass output than one with a few dB lower.. 🤔 i’ve heard Randy say in the past that speakers with lower SPL numbers were louder than other speakers with higher numbers, suggesting that some manufacturers were cheating or lying or whatever, but it’s all in
the definition and the implementation of the test, which is usually not reported;
only the standard
X dB SPL@1W@1meter. You even have to make assumptions about where the measuring device is placed at that distance in front of the face of the speaker cabinet 🤣
Aren't you the guy that made a video telling us that the 600M II doesn't sound as good as the previous version?
Hi sir
Is that audiophile ivy? All reviewers have audiophile graded plants. Which does give the best sound dispersion?😂
i think the RP600M first gen were msrp of $600ish
Cork FTW
Woofer puts out 89DB...Look at the frequency response graph.
And it still puts out 89 DB .
If Amir is to be believed Klipsch really tanked it with the Mk1 - beats me but that woofer seems to have potential.
I think that was mostly based on the dip in the frequency response. Most agree that was intentional, and not a mistake. The drivers can be EQd to put that section flatter if you desire, and with that in mind I think the speaker performs relatively ok.
@@erics.4113 Fair point and I accept that I was probably overly critical based on one man's opinion (and measurements). He - like many others - is obsessed with a flat frequency response and that might not be what the Klipsch engineers were aiming for in that price bracket.