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HOI4 is tough for new players. Today in hearts of iron 4 we correct all the mistakes France made in WW2. I normally perform lots of hoi4 cheats or exploits BUT today I will play fair and show you how rock Germany as France! THIS is the best hoi4 la resistance tutorial I've done! Feedbackgaming loves you. sdfadsf
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Why is this 6 hours ago when its 2 seconds
@@kianocallaghan5788 because its his video and he can comment on it before it's uploaded?
Ay...The link is broken (in the description that is, this one works)
This is cool and all but when are you gonna release the mother of us all achievement video?
nah i rather play the basic game then give paradox a penny more, the stuff they add in dlcs should be in the base game.
We made this discount solely for FeedBackGaming because he's our favorite. Don't tell those other RUclipsrs
Hahah 😘
Feelsbadman Q_Q
Lies.
@@LudietHistoria the bromance thickens 😳
@@vikramchakraborty1024 lol
"And then go with the British"
Napoleon: *You've become the very thing we swore to destroy*
That is your fate.
You literally did what France and Britain wanted to do in real life, they were pushing north to prevent the Netherlands from collapsing along with its armies, France wanted to station troops and extend the Maginot line into Belgium but Belgium wouldn't allow it because they wanted to be neutral.
That's... correct, but not the full story.
Yes, the French war plan against German is to use the Maginot Line to incentivize German invasion of the Belgium region. As they would rather the war be fought in Belgium, rather than in actual French territories. The plan seek to hold the German at Meuse river and Albert Canal, using fortification built by the Belgium in advance. While this left Ardennes Forest under defended, it was thought by French high command that it wasn't dangerous based on their experience in the first world war, that tanks have a rough time in rough terrain, which the Ardennes was full of.
Belgium actually was very much supportive of this plan made by the French initially, the two was in a defensive alliance after all against the German. Yet when the Rhineland was remilitarized by the German in 1936, Leopold III of Belgium, finding German troops once more to be on his country's border, with France and Britian unwilling to do anything to uphold the Treaty of Versailles, revoked the Franco-Belgium treaty on October of the same year. The Belgium only wanted to be neutral **after the allies didn't do anything about German troops rolling into Rhineland.** You may ask why France then didn't just extend the Marginal to cover Belgium border too, to which the answer is, again, they didn't want a fight on home-soil, and would rather have her reserve be on a mad dash into Belgium when the Invasion of Belgium happened.
@@WATalisman Well the reason nothing was done by the french Government to uphold to treaty was simply because of the political Divide of the country, voicing complaints against germany or even worse, militarizing for the Rhineland, was in most people's eyes just a pure act of war, against Germany quite litterally just moving back in their own backyard, and it would have given the communists the justification they needed to start riots that would have maybe ended in a full blown inssurection since the threat of war was the worst thing in the people's eyes because of the still quite vivid memory of the Great war. That's just how bad the situation was, and how weak the government was.
I don't really know about Britain, but it was probably mostly because of Classic British isolationism, not really caring about what was in their eyes quarrels that didn't concern them.
he really just fucked with stupid ai
I literally made a extended maginot line from Belgium to Italy and the german advance halted.
Good! Enlightened people here!
I wish to add :
1- France heavy industrial centers (North region near Lille and Alsace-Lorraine) were devastated by the previous war, the Germans destroyed everything that was not by combat before leaving (mines, railroads, factories etc). These were the heart of French coal and Iron production which does not reflect the game.
2- The reparations of the treaty of Versailles only served to pay back the Americans for their industrial support and resources bought during ww1, they didn't want to re escalate the payments. It didn't serve to reindustrialize.
3- When reindustrialization took place at the end of the 1920's there was the 1929 economic crisis.
4- During the 30's, France economy was in no state to rearm even if it wanted to. The people quality of life had dropped significantly causing political turmoil helped by a big refugee crisis coming from eastern europe. Far right groups and radical left had their cut out, political violence, possibility of coup d'etat.
5- The government elected was the most moderate, only preserving what it could by giving everyone what he wanted. Therefor, Generals were elected on political loyalty rather than ability (most of the good ones, De Gaulle, D'Esperey, De Lattre were reactionary royalists whom the government despised).
6- The war plan was to reduce the frontline to deny Germany its numerical superiority as much as possible and Maginot served its goal, forcing Germany to invade via Belgium and securing British support (which was not an easy go at the start due to their reluctance and sympathy for the Germans, Chamberlain liked the fascists somewhat and hated the soviets).
The Maginot line was supposed to be continued along Belgium and Netherlands but the Belgian... They quit the treaty in 1939 and not 36 like said higher up. Furthermore their fortifications were outdated.
7- This forced the 1st army (with modern equipment and tanks) to rush into Belgium when the Germans invaded Belgium (that's why war started really in may 1940 not before).
This moovement created a natural loophole between the first army and the rearguard divisions along Maginot that was exploited by the Germans as a wild poker moove.
It worked.
German blitzkrieg in Belgian plains in summer worked perfectly well due to their air superiority and fantastic planes they had and soon the British fled to the sea and the 1st army lost feet.
8- Due to the Germano Soviet agreement, Germany focused all its forces on this front, and worse, French communists rioted against war, deserted conscription and some sabotage in armaments factories and railroads happened.
We were thrown into a war for Dantzig that we were not ready to deal with, and I hope our governments wont do the same mistake again with Russia...
Thank for having read!
I'm so glad that I bought all the dlc two days now that there is a weekend sale
Contact steam . They'll match you
@@Chironex_Fleckeri ?? Actully
you might be able to get a refund
Oh, thanks guys
@@skyninjaslayer337 Yeah if its within a certain time span
france never lost anyway, they just won the other way #sigmamalegrindset
#swimmymalegrindset
Played the long game
Took a break from it all and focused on themselves for 4 years.
#staunchnationalismgrindset
Nearly 500 hours in this game and I've only just learnt about holding shift to auto train to level 3 and hold shift to pathfind... Feels like a win and a loss in one, changes everything going forward though
Things that went wrong for France :
- Losses of the WW1
- Bad leadership.
- Political instability (some politicians vetoed the rearmament of France during the 30s, mainly the opposition).
- Old warplans that didn't work for WW2.
- Every bad decision we could do at the beginning of the conflict... we have done them! How impressive was that!
something tells me that France won ww1
@@flamingoxe5984 it was the losses of the first world War, not the loss of the war. France took more casualties than anyone but Russia in the war.
@@alexmiller5471 Just to get a perspective :
In his whole history, including civil war, USA lost 1.35 millions men.
France, sole WW1, 1.4 millions.
And 20 years later, while in political, economical and industrial crisis, a new world war happened.
Edward the VIIIth giving military documents to Germany in exchange so they could help him back on the throne didn't really help France either
@@SermoniusWH Can you tell me where you got that info ? I’d like to know the source if I ever mention those numbers.
Oh come off it Dave, the French plan was for the Germans to be forced to go through Belgium where the French and Belgians would be waiting behind the Belgian defenses, but the Belgians decided they wanted to be neutral again and didn't let the French troops in until after they'd already lost their forward defenses.
There was significant method in the madness. France is given a bad wrap but when you look at it, they were not terrible. It was Belgium that signed their death warrent.
@@MikeMaragni
Go watch this before spouting idiocy.
The Belgians wanted French help, and then changed their minds, and got wrecked for it.
ruclips.net/video/-XVHYg6gvWU/видео.html
@@MikeMaragni partially, but the terrain in Belgium was much more defendable. The original plan was to camp behind a large river (the Dyle) with the forests of the arden protecting the right. This was much better than the flat plains of northern France and Belgium. This was also beneficial for Belgium as it meant they were mostly unoccupied. Any war with Germany would probably involve a march on Belgium so it wasn't a bad idea.
The other problem is that a significant amount of te French army had no morale and didn't want to fight cuz they were conscripts and anti-government communists/rightwingers and sometimes actively sabotaged the war effort.
And those guys fucked it up for the rest of the French army who actually did want to fight and were generally pretty fucking badass and fought to the last.
@@CM-db5cg
That's not true.
Some French troops were very professional while others were barely trained. And morale was low among the least trained.
But there was no sabotage that actually made any impact on the outcome. It was just incompetence and very weird bad luck.
Charles de Gaulle was actually the one who developed the blitzkrieg, the germans just managed to get their hands on it and employ it in doctrine first. Hence the tanks thing
It also did not have its own name, it was just an ideology of rushing the enemy using combined arms, tanks and planes specifically.
Best timeline
Lots of people had the idea. Stalin killed the people who believed in it, and the west sidelined people like De Gaulle.
de Gaulle wrote a book on it which barely sold in France and sold a ton of copies in Germany
Napoleon invented it
French tanks rushing through the country:
Italy: Lets claim Greek territories xD
Well they had to run somewhere
Hey @FeedBackGaming!The French didn’t “forget they could go around the maginot line”. That was the whole point of the line.
The plan was at any scent of trouble, the French and British would set up defensive lines behind key rivers in Belgium preemptively. Unfortunately, the Belgian government balked at the plan last minute and did not allow the French or British into Belgium until German soldiers were already advancing on the hoped positions.
Alternative Hypothesis has a great video on it, "In Defense of France's Conduct in WW2"
idk about anyone else but I LOVE how pdx as a development company can find the time and effort to actually sponsor one of their best hoi4 RUclipsrs, I don't think I've ever really seen a big company do that (ik sponsorships like raid fucking shadow legends but this is different, it's the game the dude is known for I just think its sick good job pdx)
Not one all of the youtubers
raid fucking shadow legend lmao but yeah i agree with you i love pdx
2:50 Something's. . . Off. I am almost positive the French distributed all their tanks among numerous infantry divisions, the issue was they didn't concentrate them in an armor corps or division with relatively mobile infantry. Have I gone mad?
Precisely, Dave got it backwards.
You're mostly right, Admiral Spoor!
The thing you and Dave still got wrong, is that the French didn't put radios in their tanks and insisted on an archaic form of command communication.
Indy Neidell's video on the fall of France shows that the French could have won if there had been more coordination and speed of action.
(Historigraph's video on the Maginot line is also great)
@@MrNicoJac No they didn't "insisted" in keeping this form of communication. The Aging/Incompetent High Command and obsolete Doctrines were the reason not a lot of ressources was invested in Radio equipment development and production, every Tank Battalion commander had a radio in his tank to communicate with his higher-ups and most platoon commander had one too, but there simply wasn't enough to equip every tank, thus why the rest weren't equiped with it and mostly relied on mimicking the platoon leader's movement because yes, they could have used hand signals and whatnot, but in the heat of battle it just not possible.
Well for the most part, but there was fully Armored divisions in the french army at the time, mainly made of Cavalry tanks and Heavy tanks, there just wasn't enough, most of the rest was meant for infantry support, thus they were indeed deployed in Infantry corps.
@@MisterGame68
Well, what the Chieftain said is that the French thought that radio signals could be intercepted, and that they saw that as a tactical vulnerability.
So they actually **wanted** flags and couriers (and pigeons!), but they did not want radios.
Indeed, considering the costs of an entire army, a few extra radios won't make that big of a difference...
The doctrine surrounding the maginot line *was* that they would go around it, it was the advance through the Ardennes specifically that caught the allies off guard
It should also be noted that the allies were caught off guard because going through the Ardennes was a crazy idea. Much of the path the Germans took was single lane dirt roads with impassable forests on either side, and there are several accounts of a handful of French soldiers in block houses holding up entire divisions for hours.
French defence planning from as early as 1920 expected that any future invasion from Germany would go through Belgium simply because that was the best and easiest terrain for such a move and signed an accord with Belgium to allow French troops to move north to form a defensive line along the Dyne River in such an event. Unfortunately, the Belgians let the accord lapse in 1936...
As for the Ardennes, the French (not unreasonably) considered that moving a large force through the area - particularly one that relied on roads to move - would take so long that they would have enough time to send reinforcements. It just shows how much the Germans rode their luck during the first 18 months to 2 years of the war (probably to the point where an outside observer from a parallel universe would be screaming "BULLSHIT!" at seeing how things playted out) that they managed to pull it off.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_war_planning_1920%E2%80%931940
@@xazorus9229 they still lost though so it was the allies underestimating modern warfare
@@matthiuskoenig3378 I wouldn't say they underestimated modern warfare, maybe underestimated how reckless the Germans would be.
France 2001: We will not go!
USA 2021: It was a mistake (cry like a babe)...
From my experience when ever I play on Historical AI and go down the historical path France does the Popular front thing but doesn’t do any of the communist focuses and the does the foreign policy thing
Yeah, National bloc is not historical.
Yeah my bad
In truth unless your going communist there no point going down popular front focus when the national front is so much better
The Belgians screwed up the planning behind the Maginot. They were supposed to build fortifications to be the extension of the line into Belgium.
French wanted to exploit the Belgians, Belgians wanted to exploit the French
I feel like Alex the Rambler somehow got the inside tract…
For people saying he should have gone for Blum (left path) instead of Laval (right path), french politics were such a mess in the 3rd republic that it doesn't realy matter since both have been Prime Minister several time between 1936 and 1939
French politics wasn't such a mess.
I’m fairly sure that historical France does form the Popular Front, not Revive the National Bloc.
Yes, it does...
I love the guy, but there's been so many inaccuracies said in this video, it hurts
Yeah that's right
joke missed; The AI does poplar front, everyone else does Revive. It's a joke on the fact no one ever does poplar because of how worthless and counter productive it is.
@@gigaus0 Yeah Popular Front should give more stability to compensate for worse industry and pp gain.
I love how you explain hot keys and why you’re doing what you’re doing
Funny fact. There is a street in Belgrade Serbia named "Charles De Gaulle"
I literally subscribed in hopes of learning more hoi4 hotkeys in future videos lol
Dave 100% watched a documentary about ze french getting smacked in the earlier years of the war and used the pdx sponsorship just as an excuse to correct their grave mistakes.
FACTS
when i was a total newbie you telling the shortcuts REALLY REALLY helped thanks Dave
Good video, always enjoyed playing france as it's a heck of a challenge but once you get past survival it's domination.
heads up, the actual historical pathway for France is actually form the popular front, and ban the leagues, NOT the other path, minor nit pick but worth knowing
Yeah I thought the same, I was a bit confused when Dave said that.
I had the most enjoyable game using this strat as a rough starting point. I think I ended up causing over 20 million casualties, with one encirclement worth about 2 million in one go. Germans pushed me back pretty good to the outskirts of Paris, but I stuck with it, deployed some backup divisions, and managed to hold them back long enough to get 8 tank divisions to crush them in massive encirclements in the lowlands. Pushing into Germany though proved slow but encirclements were like clockwork. The british and americans held greece and germany started to thin out, the US landed in sicily and their alps divisions started to move a little, and they just crumbled. Methodically dismantled Germany and Italy and caused about 8 million casualties, then held Siam and pushed out into China against the Japanese. The CAS was devastating. My production was insane, I got up to 700 factories by 1949.
The really juicy part was that the soviets were absolutely insane about spies, counter-intel, revolution, and ideology flips. Italy, the overwhelming majority of the balkan states, all of the middle east, turkey, most of china, japan, central asia, southeast asia, all turned communist. And then the soviets declared war and it was truly epic. I had to battle in Italy, the entire eastern front, the balkan and black sea front, turkey, the middle east, and especially Siam, all at the same time. I was mostly prepared, but it got hairy quickly and it was a real slugfest for a long time. I lost almost a full army in Siam because the soviets took all of india and western china. Hungary turned communist and proved to be a fat bulge in the eastern front line that I didn't break until close to the end game. So I started again with Italy, who somehow built a huge army so soon after their mussolini days, and had reinforcing soviet divisions posted on the alps. My light tank divisions and air superiority just melted them after they burned themselves out, and my first major victory of the east-west war was Italy. It was fairly difficult to make pushes at this point in the game because of allied division spam overloading supply everywhere. But I managed to make a series of big encirclements in the baltics worth 1.5 million men, and after a few smaller encirclements I sent a tank army south to cut off the hungarian bulge. It was around 160 divisions and 2 million men for the soviets and hungarians, it was truly glorious. I broke out in Lebanon and steamrolled Afghanistan/Iraq, then cut off soviet divisions in turkey from retreating across the caucusus. After that the soviet union was like a big red pie that I sliced up effortlessly, I set one army group on auto-pilot after breaking hungaria and it pushed reasonably well, along with the hilarious tank encirclements. I think soviet casualties from french forces topped 9 million, suck on that Napoleon! I stopped after that because the allies controlled the entire world and it would basically be me against everyone, and the game was horribly laggy.
Tl;Dr You Won't BELIEVE How OP Light Tanks AND Mechanized Are!
This must be the best HoI4 video I've ever seen. I always wanted to see a proper France playthrough, as is shown here. I always come back for this one, no matter what is being released since september.
France is actually fantastic and a lot of fun once you get the ball rolling and get the economy and government into shape. Only downside is that if you're going fascist or non-aligned you might have trouble getting ready for offensive wars in time, especially if you don't pick up any major allies along the way since you're ahem.. a tad crippled until you get all the terrible spirits removed.
Biggest problem I reckon is that it takes long to get the 2 extra research slots which makes improving your fairly impressive navy a no-go since you'll have to sacrifice too much in terms of air and land in compensation.
France has a good amount of tech researched in 1936 already and you won't be researching land doctrines for a few years anyway. From my experience you can squeeze in some naval tech unless you want to rush some technologies.
If you play a research-intensive game, you can get all research slots within seven focuses by using Algerian France to unlock both slots in one go. Good thing is, you can still get the building slots later on, you just sacrifice the instant civilian factories.
i had fun, i joined the co prosperity sphere and joined the invasion of china from my vietnam holdings :)
Can confirm after No Step Back this strat no longer works very well. Well at least the Spanish Civil War part. Republican Spain gets completely folded within months every single time since the AI doesn't know how to use the supply system it seems.
I'm also failing miserably with this strat in NSB. The rearmament thing never fires, Ethiopia folds by early April every time. Exercising your armies does not seem to give nearly as much XP as before; getting everyone up to Veteran gives maybe 2 xp total. On top of this, getting involved in the Spanish civil war causes a communist uprising and civil war in France every time. Even if I win the civil war, I end up losing my best field marshal and half my forces and garrisons... total nightmare.
That wasn't an oversight on the Maginot is that they can go around!! That was the entire point!! IRL the Maginot line was on forts, but also mountains and the plan was that the French and probably British forces would hold positions in Belgium.
Dance shouldn’t have ignored the scout plane crew that saw a massive German column moving through the Ardennes that was completely vulnerable to artillery and aerial bombing.
Small tips:
- Wait with Laissez-Faire before you start researching 1937 industry tec. Better if you not take focus at all and take Silent Workhorse first. Then you gonna start gaining more PP and get better research faster.
- You can actually make Spain join Allies at 1937 and gain a lot of XP. Take Strengthen Government, join Allies via focus and send attache to Spain or China in 16 july 1937. You are going to have enough war support to intervine in Spanish Civil War and farm a lot of XP without losing too much stability.
-If you send spies in Germany and Infiltrate in Civil department, you are going to gain additional PP. Same with other departments, but you are going to gain some XP.
Lol that Infantry just gets walked over for me after a year. I capitulated italy but by then my army was just not equipped at all and Germany killed me mid 1940
Air power is the equaliser
5:42 The line wasn't continued for those reasons : Budget and diplomacy ( upgrades of existing forts were planned but, then Belgium declared it self neutral ( as if it helped them before ) only STG casemates were built and a few blockhaus )
Can Paradox sponsor you to fix France irl too ? Pls we need help.
we americans need more help. please help us
Lol Canada also needs help... wow, major nations IRL in 2021 are all going to shit with bad leadership eh?
@@TakedownO44 fr tho
@@TakedownO44 You ain't wrong.
@@TakedownO44 replace 'major' with 'majority' and i still agree with you
Fix France? Got to go back to WWI and make sure Joffre never gets his hands on the French Army for starters...
18:51 The french did actually try to move their troops into Belgium to keep the fighting out of France, but the belgians didn't allow the french troops to enter until they had been invaded.
The french were outflanked before they could get to the front as all the roads were congested by refugees coming the the other way. Read James Holland's the war in the west for more.
This is precisely a video and wanted to watch. Thank you so much for uploading it! (genuinely)
How to hell you get "people demands rearmament" on may 1936 when in countles France playthroughs I have even seen that event?
Bruh, everytime I see a sale for this gale I kick myself for buying it at full price. At least I waited for the summer and winter sale to buy the DLCs.
When you got the base game for $15 years ago and cracked all the DLC :)
@@KixSlim YO HO HO!!! A PIRATE'S LIFE FOR MEEEE!!
You bought the dlc tho, you should kick yourself for that laone
> PDX game
> Full price
> wat
I've a question: With the latest DLC "No Step Back" and the new tank designer the small tanks are now slower in the beginning of the game and I've read, that with the changes to the combat width system the combat width of 40 as shown at 15:45 isn't as good anymore.
The question now is whether what you show in the vidoe is still possible in this form.
finally i have something to watch today. thanks for uploading :)
11:31 oh my god i’ve been wondering how to do that for a year and a half now thank you
Honestly I’m kinda surprised at how you play France, I mean I usually choose the defensive focus for example, those 2x100% bonus on land doctrine are just to darn sweet
If wrong doctrine means :
- Having no radio and using flag signals instead
- Using one-man turret vs three-man turret
Then yes.
How to use tanks and effectively use them is doctrine
@@DaveFeedBackGaming The sum of all those little details led to the biggest defeat in France whole history
0:26 love it!!
As a French, thanks a lot for this video, I really enjoyed it and it makes me pleasure to see strong France. By the way, why do you spam CAS as France ? is it useful ? I did a min/max run with France when I formed EU and then flip Napoleon and i will prefer to spam fighters just to deal with the Axis and then few CAS.
Also, French Union focus is so bugged, I tried to do it once I formed EU and I get 0 cores. You can do Encourage immigration instead. And a last fun fact : if you release Algeria at the start as a puppet, they will have a focus tree and if you do later Blum-Viollette Proposal after, Algeria is annexed and you will have around 10 factories!
French tanks were superior to the germans, but they had two major issues that greatly limited their efficiency : very few radios and one place turrets
Doesn’t that mean they weren’t superior? Sounds pretty important to me. Having to communicate mid battle with flags and one place turrets makes them much worse
I always form the Little Entente and do the Join the Ententes focus path, it's really overpowered
A thousand thanks for showing tricks to finally improve France. Please do that again, so useful as the game keeps evolving (logistics, doctrines, spirits...)!
Thank you Feedback I will use this guide to make EU Bonaparte France.
5:46 at the time the maginot line was built, Belgium was supposed to build a frontline a bit similar along the Meuse, until they decided to stop being allied with France and be neutral again ( didn't they learned at the time ? )
You've got two metal boxes, one that goes 1000 km an hr and another wich is basically a moving pillbox that Carrie's a whole squad of infantry
i like that you include the key short cuts you use as your using them
I had a game a while back of Democratic Germany where I had some light tank/motorized divisions and let me tell you, there were some weird German roadtrips through Russia that game. Gotta go fast.
Hi Feedback, could you please do this again with the no step back version? it could be very interresting and op. Thanks man.
I did this as Romania in kaiserreich, it was surprisingly easy to beat austria hungary
Oddly enough, the historical route for France is quite powerful if you couple it up with your fortifications and deal with your manpower issues.
My general strategy is stability first, then manpower, then rearmament, then infrastructure. Stability is always the issue first and foremost, since all of those debuffs kill your production. If you resolve them first, then you’ll get all the production you need to crank out factories.
I never understand people saying "German tanks" or "Soviet Tanks". They're the same thing. They have the same stats, just their photo is different
Heavy tonk
The game wouldn't be very balanced if they were historical. Image better stats and increased cost for the Panther and decreased cost for the T-34 and Sherman.
@@azh698 I know, that's why I say I don't understand. These are just tanks, they are all the same.
One of the documentaries I saw mostly attributed France losing due to the fact they had extremely limited radio communications capability and their tanks didn't even have radios. So they couldn't get reinforcements where they were needed.
Superior armament, almost had me there
Charles de Gaulle being in there completely caught me by surprise
WHO?
Alternative title:CAS is killing everyone
fun fact, because soft attack, breakthrough, piercing etc. are all averaged across the entire division, putting a single medium tank in the light tank division would give significant bonuses while keeping your production requirements low
Blasphemy!
I legit almost bought two dlcs before clicking on your vid. Thx dude
To be fair in regards to the Maginot at 5:30, the Belgians we're supposed to fortify the tiny section of their border with the Germans, and the Netherlands were at the beginning talks. The Belgians said they would build it, but then in 1939 they decided against it as they didn't want to anger the Germans. So the French built a half Maginot along the Belgian border but they only had a couple months construction going into it.
That Papers Please stamp at the beginning really hit a nostalgia bug.
the thing about french tanks being superior is false, they were slower, had worse armaments and most importantly were 1 man turreted vehicles with no radios. the only thing they had going for them was armour, but this was mostly useless save for the char B1, on the other tanks it was mostly dead weight.
german tanks were literally able to drive rings around the french ones.
French tanks were superior, French armor doctrine used them more as infantry support rather than massing them as their own divisions to be able to decisively defeat infantry
@@gaberobison680 no they were not superior. no radios, 1 man turrets, more than ~75% had guns unable to damage even panzer IIs let alone 35(t)s, 38(t)s, or the panzer 3 and 4, half the speed of german tanks, unreliable, slow and underpowered. they sucked ass. even the char b1 was a piece of shit, only dangerous because of its armour.
the french had:
->1670 R35s (roughly equal armour to german tanks [save panzer I&II], 1 man turret, aremed with a ww1 37mm gun unable to damage panzer 2s, and they were slow, about half the speed of most german tanks and had an even worse power to weight ratio so it accelerates slowly and can't climb hills, no radio, in other words mostly useless as it will die easily to tanks and anti-tank guns without much of a fight, not fast enough for recon)
-> 400 H35 (essentially R35 but made by Hotchkiss, also a 1-man turret, still a ww1 gun-armed tank with the H35 having an even worse power to weight ratio, and thus slower and still no armour advantage over german tanks [save the panzer 1 and 2], with no radio, also mostly useless as it will die easily to tanks and anti-tank guns without mutch of a fight and not fast enough for recon)
->800 H39 (re-engined H35s, mutch faster but still slower than any german tank, and still underpowered and thus still struggled to go up hills, the french tried to use some for recon but found it was still too slow for recon, and its gun was useless against vehicles, and too short-ranged and inaccurate to fight anti-tank guns, still blind and no radio, still basically useless in modern warfare)
-->some 300 H39s and 50 H35s were upgunned with a slightly better gun (the 37mm SA 18 replaced with the 37mm SA38), this allowed them to penetrate german tanks at roughly equal ranges, however its still worse in all other ways, and thus still a worse tank
->410 Somua S35
(the closest thing to a useful tank the french had. it had actually useful armour to the front. still a shitty 1 man-turret so its almost blind compared to other thanks [which are already almost blind] and extremely slow to react, with a slow reload and target acquisition, meaning its thin side armour was easy to get to especially when you combine this with its poor power-to-weight ratio and unpowered turret (so even if it spots a flank attack it can't react to it, and its so slow and manoeuvrable its guaranteed to be flanked). alsp had no radio! so most it can't coordinate with allies while in combat! some had a telegraphy set, but it was impractical for combat useage, many didn't even have that.. it was also extremely unreliable, so it broke down all the time. oh and despite being one of the fastest french tanks, its still slower than every german tank [as mentioned above]. and its gun is also nothing special, roughly equal to the german 37mm, no advantage here,
in short a tank that should be considered a worse panzer 3 [slower, worse power to weight ratio, no radio, 1-man turret], better than a panzer II against tanks, worse for anything else. ie a bad tank)
->300 AMR 33/35
(recon tanks armed with MGs, roughly comparable to the panzer 1)
->100 FCM 36
(basically another H35/R35)
->160 Char D1
(basically a cross between a R35 and a S35, slower than both, the armour of the R35, but a superior, not that it did it mutch good, it was still incapable of penetrating even a panzer 2 at 100m, extremely unreliable even by french standards. still a 1-man turret, still no radio, so bad the french didn't deploy it even as a reserve, sent them to africa to be out of the way.)
->100 Char D2
(a slightly faster char D1, puting it at the same speed as an R35. still a lower power to weight ratio than the R35, let alone german tanks, still extremely unreliable even by french standards (almost all broke down before they even fought the germans. and armed with the same almost useless gun (it can still shoot infantry i guess), all atleast had the telegraphy set [unlike the limited distribution of the S35], but still useless in combat and thus still no combat coordination. so yeah worse than the german tanks)
-> 34 orginal Char B1
the original was bad, slower than any german tank (only slightly above half the speed), same turret gun and armour as the Char D1/2 (ie useless against tanks), the hull 75mm L17.1 was low velocity and thus had worse penetration than german 37mm guns and it had no traverse and thus was basically useless against tanks. good vs bunkers and little else (which is what the APHE rounds were actually intended for, concrete bunkers). oh and no radio, still only a telegraphy set. so yeah, worse than german tanks, even the Panzer iv with its short 75mm against bunkers...
-->~370 Char B1bis tanks
*the only 'good' french tanks*, up-armoured to 60mm and armed with the same 47mm Sa35 of the S35, it was practically invulnerable to german tanks while being able to kill them. it also had a proper radio. still a shitty 1-man turret, making it basically blind, and slow to respond to danger, and still vulnerable to the sides to even 37mm guns. and it was still slow and unreliable (so unreliable in fact the upgrade, the B1ter, was to have an extra crewman specifically for maintenance and repair).
this is the tank people mean when they say french tanks were better than german ones, however, it only had frontal armour going for it, everything else was either equal or inferior to german tanks, the germans could (and did) largely ignore them due their poor operational mobility (slow speed, combined with short-range, and lots of breakdowns) and its one-man turret and slow acceleration and speed meant it was easily out manoeuvred in tactical combat, even by anti-tank guns pushed by their crews (which did actually happen) and their large vulnerable tracks resulted in alot of them simply being immobilised by artillery fire...
and to claim french tanks, in general, are better because the char B1bis *might* be better (its not) is an overgeneralisation.
-->[and 1580 ww1 FTs, 500 of which were still is combat units in 1940]
edit: oh and i forgot to mention, french tanks didn't have capolas, top hatches, or periscopes. only direct vision ports (which left the crew with worse vision than their german counterparts, making their 1-man turrets even worse, it left them vulnerable to machine-gun fire and artillery, as they can be blinded by shattered splinters of bullets coming in and hitting their eyes), to get any decent level of vision required climbing out the back of the turret, exposing the commander/gunner/loader to the enemy and leaveing him unable to communicate with the driver...
do you see know? French tanks were not better than german tanks, they were poorly designed death traps. the worst tanks in ww2. honestly, they make the worst Italian, soviet and Japanese tanks look like well-designed wonders.
Watching it now and i hear remenber when your tank get blow up by Molotov cocktail I'm like oh yeah they didn't learn
15:11 it was about the nebulous concept of "morale". In the fucking 1930s
Hey dave if I were to buy hoi and all the dlcs if I dont have a computer (yet) then when i get the computer Will that work?
Hi, I tried to follow this but after training all 68 divisions to max I only had 2 Army Exp by 20 May, how did you get to 5?
I missed the weekend sale :(( Will it go on sale again the coming weekend?
when you take your lunch break, open up youtube and see the GOAT has updated = Smiley Boy
Just a year ago, no tank designer, old supply system, and no plane designer, such simple times
Feedback, I believe you gonna make them even more overpowered,when tank designer comes!
2:00 someone's throwing shade xD
wait... thats 9 months ago....
good God did this age like fine wine xD
Theoretically if you have the industry and fuel motorised is far superior to infantry because it is way faster and has the same stats otherwise so motorised 14:4 as Soviet would work also the French did think about the around the maginot but the Belgians didn’t
The historical path of France in 1936 is not to revive the National Bloc, but to form the Popular Front.
You don't say... imgur.com/DnnukcT
@@DaveFeedBackGaming Ahah, at least now you know
14:16
Well it is untrue, the french got reserves troops behind the frontlines, which got involved in the weygand line and the first days of the breaktrought in the Ardennes
If you look carefully you can see Feedback slowly spiraling into insanity as the video progresses.
I have been blessed by 2 videos in 3 days! Thx Feedback!
I’m so glad the dlc was half off, I got jealous of watching out play with them for so long and I finally have them all
"Special relationship, USA and France, right!"
This did get outdated so fast, you can even ask Australia about it.
Paradox: taking notes
Now thanks to No Step Pack; this is completely obsolete.
Right now I have Hoi4 on Gamepass with the expansion pass dlc, but I want to get the game on steam so I can play with workshop mods. Also, I noticed that the dlc that I'm missing is cheaper with the sale on steam this weekend.
So I am trying to find out if I can have both versions of the game on my pc, or if I just have to pick one. If anyone knows that would be great.
Thanks for telling us about this
how is everyone using research slots to train Army, Navy, and Air? I only can train these three by first getting training points from making army train and navy train and air train then you can take these points and put into those three. Is this a setting or just using some sort of mod?
love this style of video
2:10 So that aged like a fine vintage jug of milk..
I don't know why people discredit light tanks they can be really good in the early years of the game and when they become obsolete you can always convert them into SPG in the mid game.
Competent France? Immersion broken!
HIsToRiCaL gaME bTw
2:09 history repeats itself
22:32 Isn't their a cap on CAS based on frontline size / # of battles?
So would't a mix of fighters / CAS be better?
Question: Does the size of air wings other than naval bomber effect missions/day or anything else meaningful?
@Jupiter Foxx
Why though?
@Dillon
Why exclude naval bombers?
@@MrNicoJac Because I'm fairly sure feedback already included the requested info regarding naval bombers in a previous video. If I recall correctly he said many wings of about 3-4 naval bombers each was ideal as each would perform 2 missions a day
I've always had problems in HOI4 and now I think my problem is I build way to many civilian factories and not enough military one or I wait to long. I feel really dumb after watchin this video.