I returned to dota and was previously high legend-low ancient before the mmr deflation and now im at around 3K and was really puzzled why i wasnt really gaining mmr until I realised I forgot a good amount of basic laning thanks to this video.
You'll be surprised how many players are like this in divine rank as well 😂 the only difference is that they are better at mechanics-wise, but basics? Nah
Im a complete scrub so i cant speak to how good that first move by drow is strategically speaking but i can say for sure that stuff like this spreads good vibes. And good vibes carry games. Esspecially in lower elo, if your teammates stay happy and tilt-free, your winrate skyrockets
Usually mid laner or offlaner is better at manipulating creep wave Because they are fucked if they are losing lanes and don't know to manipulate creep waves
It's criminal how little engagement your videos get. Hopefully your performance in the qualis will garner more traffic! Love videos like this. Please do more low-mid level gameplay reviews
Speeed, on behalf of the community we MUCH prefer theee videos as supposed to you “THIS NEW OFFLANE BUILD IS BROOOKEN” videos. Most of us never play these offlane es you suggest whereas these vids are good to watch for all players
i play Dota 1 on RGC and these videos are very helpfull. But this legion had the most EZ PEZ game in history and he gambled it . I wouldve won this game with WR alone . This guys literally sucked AF. keep up the good work Speed
serious Question. Am I the only 1 who goes 2, 3, 1 in skill order? Soul ring make sense then because I use it for heal and attack speed for faster clear. and counter attack makes it better with the heals. So I can take a fight anytime. I've had 1 kill with skill 1 my whole life. I only use it against illusions.
@azhaar113 I don't know how but your comment appeared on the video of top core heroes of patch 7.35 lol. My apologies good sir. And in regards to your question, definitely not 2nd skill at lvl1, almost never. Lvl 1 is great for harass if against a melee hero and for range creep secure. Passive is good if you can man up lvl 1 to look for fb. But the second ability is only good if you have a horrible match up and need the dispel badly.
stop saying u will gain mmr if u lasthit/deny better than ur enemy, in guardian and usually have atleast double in both. Just end up losing because the team doesnt want to group and just jungles like downies.
Sometimes i get games like this and let me tell u, if you start giving your team orders and you know what to do you will increase your chances of winning. I know sometimes the team mates are straight up dumb or bad or just dont care about winning but trust me, i was guardian, once i learnt more of the game and started leading my team i got more wins, im archon now
Soul ring is free with Decay. But not with LC, LC need to get hit to proc his passive or use skill 2 to regen, which suck because both does not result in any harass like Decay does.
After valve mega-patch and a new ranked system, I legit feel like most people Crusader archon and Legend are terrible at dota2, I was guardian I m legit bad at the game( I play very little ) but I beat them constantly in lane with half brained fundamentals. If they are divine or above, the game changes dramatically. Somehow, the gap is real.
Legion's plays are too random based. He doesn't even check items before running on someone. By that alone one can tell that he just runs in having no idea what's going on:D
Just aggro creeps on your side *in front of tower* and ignore him. If you deny all your creeps and not let enemy to LH them it's pretty much GG for you on laning phase.
As a support in SEA server with a rank of a crusader, I'm surprised that cores in my games are better at manipulating creep waves than this LC and Drow
As someone who played dota 1 and is 9k in dota 2 4/5 roles I can play anything probably in like 5k or less let's be honest. The most important thing a new dota player could ever learn is you will lose games period it just doesn't matter the sooner you accept that the better you will learn
i had a similiar game yesterday (i was the legion vs a drow & cm.. i got pooped on) my lich support and our techies kept feeding them though but so did i.. tried to recover but meeh.. edit: i at least pulled the creeps back and farmed jungle abit but still lost
@@SpicyDroneexactly lol ppl getting sad when someone’s more advanced is helping em get better it’s just weird for me. Like go to a therapist first then bruh 😂
Dota Gaved me Guardian this season (all games pos 5, yes i lose alot due to cores having fish brain) and im amazed how they afk in lane especially min 1-5 including supports Afk i mean not doing something impactful in the lane and not looking for opportunities
how this can be even a crusader or gurdian in the sea knew how to agro creeps and now im wondering how this divine ranked legion didnt know how to agro creeps
I was Ancient 4 before I dropped to Archon after 2 year of total break and it's painful to watch these "Legends" not knowing how to aggro and last hit...
If u are wondering, its because of the new ranking System. This guy is boosted. My peak is divine 1, ofc i know aggro, i compete with 6-8k player back in day on lane. I took a break and lost track of a lot of stuff and decreased in mechanics as well. When i came back calibradet early. It takes gpm and stats over anything. If u calibrate with low ranks u get low, if with higher automatcly higher. I tried solo and sacrificied my game 2make space, ended up a lot of dying and team won. However by creating space for carry i only had around 400-500 gpm while enemy loosing mid farmed afk all game and got like 700. He gained more mmr in loss than me in win. 2 sum it up, i wasnt at my lvl and calibrated low archon, luckily had recalibration still, which can do 1time a year. I have friends who have been herald/Guardian for 10 years, playing accordingly now sitting at legend1 higher than me 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Lol this guy is a account buyer for sure, im guardian and play 5 times more this guy, he doesnt even now how to aggro, while i move my camera to another lane to aggro when they are not showing up, as a guardian lol
He is having trouble pulling creep aggro because his support wont contest the WD. The moment he goes for aggro WD steps up to malidict, its preventing him hardcore from pulling aggro. Hes attempting to aggro from as far as possible, but its not working because hes risky ng death. This is part of the game is not his fault, its the support whos not occupying the real threat in lane. The WD.
It's his fault. He could easily just right click WD or Drow Ranger and aggro creeps towards his ranged creep and deny him and after that make creeps to follow him in front of his tower and keep his farm safe and deny every Drow last hit.
I like the idea behind this video but most of all the things in this video are just "This guy did this wrong" without showing us what he should have done instead. Saying "aggro creeps" or disapproving of his harass techniques is not very helpful when you don't show exactly how and when he should aggro creeps and when and where he shoul'dve harassed differently.
it's bad as a first rush item since the recipe is so expensive now, even on heroes that need it like brood and mars they typically go bracer boots then soulring.
Legend V? -year 2023 still buys soulring on legion -no creep agroo -Still has salve 15mins game... on a legion commander HAHAHA IF player still has tango/clarity/salve 15-25 min mark means player has no awareness at all = herald to crusader.. archon to some extent. Crusader/Archon/Acc buyer
im herald, 2.5k, so probably around the level of that guy. whats funny is that technically and knowledge wise im better, but we still play in the same rank.
@@Petyan16 With the match id you provided, LC was indeed countered by WW and Tusk. Tough match up for LC for sure, but with a little communication with Pudge, he could Dismember either WW or Tusk, and LC could duel the other. Still impressive she won in a Divine game nonetheless.
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I returned to dota and was previously high legend-low ancient before the mmr deflation and now im at around 3K and was really puzzled why i wasnt really gaining mmr until I realised I forgot a good amount of basic laning thanks to this video.
You'll be surprised how many players are like this in divine rank as well 😂 the only difference is that they are better at mechanics-wise, but basics? Nah
Im a complete scrub so i cant speak to how good that first move by drow is strategically speaking but i can say for sure that stuff like this spreads good vibes.
And good vibes carry games. Esspecially in lower elo, if your teammates stay happy and tilt-free, your winrate skyrockets
Im amaze how long he’s holding that enemy salve 😂
it amazes me how many people from crusader to legend have no idea how to manipulate the creep waves
Usually mid laner or offlaner is better at manipulating creep wave
Because they are fucked if they are losing lanes and don't know to manipulate creep waves
Coz it's for nerds
Lower legend yes they don’t know . They don’t know what creep Agro is
It happens in ancient too
Up to legend? Rofl, just a few ancients know this. It's infuriating.
Im Divine before and i just started playing and literally go down to Guardian so this is really helpful
It's criminal how little engagement your videos get. Hopefully your performance in the qualis will garner more traffic!
Love videos like this. Please do more low-mid level gameplay reviews
Speeed, on behalf of the community we MUCH prefer theee videos as supposed to you “THIS NEW OFFLANE BUILD IS BROOOKEN” videos. Most of us never play these offlane es you suggest whereas these vids are good to watch for all players
What qualifies you to speak on behalf of the community? I prefer those videos. This stuff is painfully obvious.
I play offline and like the offline videos lol
@@_Titanium_ if that was his speeed channel that’s fine but gameleap is supposed to be how to be a better Dota player, not broodmother player
Stopped playing dota last year but still love speeeds stuff.
Speed you should do more gameplay analysis and your gameplay videos as well
i play Dota 1 on RGC and these videos are very helpfull. But this legion had the most EZ PEZ game in history and he gambled it . I wouldve won this game with WR alone . This guys literally sucked AF. keep up the good work Speed
serious Question. Am I the only 1 who goes 2, 3, 1 in skill order? Soul ring make sense then because I use it for heal and attack speed for faster clear. and counter attack makes it better with the heals. So I can take a fight anytime. I've had 1 kill with skill 1 my whole life. I only use it against illusions.
If we only knew which hero you are talking about we would be able to answer your question sir
@@wamaro LC. Wasn't whole video about LC?
@azhaar113 I don't know how but your comment appeared on the video of top core heroes of patch 7.35 lol. My apologies good sir.
And in regards to your question, definitely not 2nd skill at lvl1, almost never. Lvl 1 is great for harass if against a melee hero and for range creep secure. Passive is good if you can man up lvl 1 to look for fb. But the second ability is only good if you have a horrible match up and need the dispel badly.
@@wamaro Im low level so nobody ever farms. So I'm usually AFK farming. Maybe I'll suffer in highe ranks like you said
What is creep agro? I'm a Herald and I've never heard of that.
i think its an act where youre deliberately making the enemy creeps coming at you. via hitting the enemy?
stop saying u will gain mmr if u lasthit/deny better than ur enemy, in guardian and usually have atleast double in both. Just end up losing because the team doesnt want to group and just jungles like downies.
Very passive playing. I also hate this.
Sometimes i get games like this and let me tell u, if you start giving your team orders and you know what to do you will increase your chances of winning. I know sometimes the team mates are straight up dumb or bad or just dont care about winning but trust me, i was guardian, once i learnt more of the game and started leading my team i got more wins, im archon now
Exactly. THe Herald/Guardian cores can last hits as good as divine players. But they are completly braindead how to use their farm..
what about if undying offlane went soul ring first? getting the ingredients during strat phase?
That’s different because you’re spamming decay with a soul ring essentially for free. You can get two decays off with one soul ring activation.
Soul ring is free with Decay. But not with LC, LC need to get hit to proc his passive or use skill 2 to regen, which suck because both does not result in any harass like Decay does.
After valve mega-patch and a new ranked system, I legit feel like most people Crusader archon and Legend are terrible at dota2, I was guardian I m legit bad at the game( I play very little ) but I beat them constantly in lane with half brained fundamentals. If they are divine or above, the game changes dramatically. Somehow, the gap is real.
6:00 wind lace?
whats the problem? pros use wind lace on early to add more ms bro
Pull creep agro?
Legion's plays are too random based. He doesn't even check items before running on someone. By that alone one can tell that he just runs in having no idea what's going on:D
wow thanks for the guide
Awesome things to think about thanks Speed!!!
How about when your support in lane is just leeching xp and not helping at all? How do you save the lane
Just aggro creeps on your side *in front of tower* and ignore him. If you deny all your creeps and not let enemy to LH them it's pretty much GG for you on laning phase.
as a beginner i didnt understand a single thing he said but they way he said it is funny so i will like
thats legend(lc)? it feels like its in between crusader and archon. hope that its not bought account/boosted lol
As a support in SEA server with a rank of a crusader, I'm surprised that cores in my games are better at manipulating creep waves than this LC and Drow
As someone who played dota 1 and is 9k in dota 2 4/5 roles I can play anything probably in like 5k or less let's be honest. The most important thing a new dota player could ever learn is you will lose games period it just doesn't matter the sooner you accept that the better you will learn
Even I pull aggro when I can and I’m guardian (I’m new to the game)
If you can consistently do it , then improve other aspects of your game and you’ll be archon soon
@@johnnychannarong5484 I miss pull times and stack times by 5 seconds consistently 😂
i had a similiar game yesterday (i was the legion vs a drow & cm.. i got pooped on) my lich support and our techies kept feeding them though but so did i.. tried to recover but meeh.. edit: i at least pulled the creeps back and farmed jungle abit but still lost
It surprises me that there are people like that still.
idk speed i wish you had analyzed one of our replays, i get the idea its to learn but alot of us do want to hear your opinion on how we play
Are you sure you can handle the truth? 😂
@mrlee9213 for sure, if it means i get better, why would i wanna hear speed lying about me saying i play good when i dont 😂😂
@@SpicyDroneexactly lol ppl getting sad when someone’s more advanced is helping em get better it’s just weird for me. Like go to a therapist first then bruh 😂
I actually like to farm blink as my first item before blade mail.
no way this is legend game
Dota Gaved me Guardian this season (all games pos 5, yes i lose alot due to cores having fish brain) and im amazed how they afk in lane especially min 1-5 including supports
Afk i mean not doing something impactful in the lane and not looking for opportunities
I can win my lanes but idk how to take advantage of the gap n lose mid/ late game
U can win the lane but other lane is feeding and enemy is Godlike min 11 what can u do ? 😂🤣
match ID?
how this can be even a crusader or gurdian in the sea knew how to agro creeps and now im wondering how this divine ranked legion didnt know how to agro creeps
I was Ancient 4 before I dropped to Archon after 2 year of total break and it's painful to watch these "Legends" not knowing how to aggro and last hit...
“WELL THERE LEVEL 2 “ 😂
BRO NEEDS TO LEARN ABOUT CREEP AGGRO HOLY SHIT
what region is this... he's rank is high compared to how he plays ngl
Man he holds into drow's salve for too long lmao probably holds a secret on how to be a divine rank
If u are wondering, its because of the new ranking System.
This guy is boosted.
My peak is divine 1, ofc i know aggro, i compete with 6-8k player back in day on lane.
I took a break and lost track of a lot of stuff and decreased in mechanics as well.
When i came back calibradet early.
It takes gpm and stats over anything.
If u calibrate with low ranks u get low, if with higher automatcly higher.
I tried solo and sacrificied my game 2make space, ended up a lot of dying and team won.
However by creating space for carry i only had around 400-500 gpm while enemy loosing mid farmed afk all game and got like 700.
He gained more mmr in loss than me in win.
2 sum it up, i wasnt at my lvl and calibrated low archon, luckily had recalibration still, which can do 1time a year.
I have friends who have been herald/Guardian for 10 years, playing accordingly now sitting at legend1 higher than me 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I dont understand how this guys get to legend 5. 0 concept of creep aggro and itemization. Looks crusader. At least in lane
I don't even see that in Archon xD I'm going back to Ancient/Diving hopefully this month or next because I'm coming back from 2 year break of dota..
If u cant play LC dont play offlane at all, for ral dont
What's the point of ranking system, just be good at game
Lol this guy is a account buyer for sure, im guardian and play 5 times more this guy, he doesnt even now how to aggro, while i move my camera to another lane to aggro when they are not showing up, as a guardian lol
no one cares lol guardian miracle
He is having trouble pulling creep aggro because his support wont contest the WD. The moment he goes for aggro WD steps up to malidict, its preventing him hardcore from pulling aggro. Hes attempting to aggro from as far as possible, but its not working because hes risky ng death.
This is part of the game is not his fault, its the support whos not occupying the real threat in lane. The WD.
It's his fault. He could easily just right click WD or Drow Ranger and aggro creeps towards his ranged creep and deny him and after that make creeps to follow him in front of his tower and keep his farm safe and deny every Drow last hit.
spoken like a true 2k.
Imagine being Legend 5/ Ancient 1 and getting teammates who don't know what def aggro is. Gaben wtf are you doing???
do it for them
@@21minus1 yeah, also zone out the other supp, ward, stack, pull, secure runes, harras, bring back lane equilibrium . You can’t do everything.
I like the idea behind this video but most of all the things in this video are just "This guy did this wrong" without showing us what he should have done instead. Saying "aggro creeps" or disapproving of his harass techniques is not very helpful when you don't show exactly how and when he should aggro creeps and when and where he shoul'dve harassed differently.
This legend play like crusader in laning tbh tho even my buddy he is guardian he know how to aggro creep
100% a account buyer even thou i am a guardian i know how to creep agro
This LC does not even look like Legend 5. Most Legend people already pretty good at pulling aggro. This Mofo is borderline crusader at best.
But mars can"t servive with out soul ring
but u still shouldnt rush it,make stats before it or else u wont be able to afford it health wise
Wand, raindrops, mangoes, lotus. You'll need a ring of health or vanguard to sustain soul ring or tango salves
The fack that its ta carry want to make me cry
She can carry
TBH I'd rather have an AFK farm hero P1 than P2
@@adamfink8958 depends on the draft, plays and rank matchups.
Divine vs Legend then give tips lol what a huge MMR gap
Soul ring offlane is good…… but very hero dependant. And lc definitely is not one of those heroes.
it's bad as a first rush item since the recipe is so expensive now, even on heroes that need it like brood and mars they typically go bracer boots then soulring.
rad necro soul ring LC no wonder they are animals lol
the salve is really hurting my eyes hahah he cant even use it ... i think that wind and lc is acct buyers hahaha
what do you say, he should give it back to drow?
the drow is divine while everyone else is archon/legend. SHE SHOULD WIN NO MATTER WHAT
I like how archons and crusaders in sea plays better than this guy. Like dude wtf
Legend V?
-year 2023 still buys soulring on legion
-no creep agroo
-Still has salve 15mins game... on a legion commander HAHAHA
IF player still has tango/clarity/salve 15-25 min mark means player has no awareness at all = herald to crusader.. archon to some extent.
Crusader/Archon/Acc buyer
not SEA
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No way this is 3k haha i am 2.5 and people play way better than this
first
congrats do you want a cookie nerd?
im herald, 2.5k, so probably around the level of that guy.
whats funny is that technically and knowledge wise im better, but we still play in the same rank.
match id: 7241550565 the way to play this match up (almost all heroes counter picked lc)
There is not a single counter to LC this game, maybe you could say Ghost Shroud from Necro but that's about it
@@Omar-rt1hy notice was about match i present with id
Whos the counter to LC noob?
@@IulknPdshb Mars, tiny to a certain extend till she gets damage or has teammates to assist her when they're 1/4th HP
@@Petyan16 With the match id you provided, LC was indeed countered by WW and Tusk.
Tough match up for LC for sure, but with a little communication with Pudge, he could Dismember either WW or Tusk, and LC could duel the other.
Still impressive she won in a Divine game nonetheless.
EZZ conclusion f this LC MrSpeed==== ACCUNT buyer defected
Keep up the good work speeed.🫡
Lmao what is this server legends doing im immortal in SEA server but some legend tier can lane with me🫠