Honestly the best part of my week is getting up early saturday with my 1 year old son and watching this series before mommy wakes up. We are big fans of mosso, and even bigger fans of these amazing timepieces.
Having experienced four versions of the Snowflake, this SBGA407 is my favorite. Grand Seiko took the time to change the case and character of the watch along with the color of the dial, and I appreciate the extra thought that gives this model its own identity. Best, Tim
I got a Hulk a couple of weeks ago, I am really delighted with it. I went into a Mayor’s in Orlando last week and tried on a Seiko Grand Skyflake, held them side by side. I was blown away; the sweep of the second hand, the polish of the markers and hands, the depth of the dial, case finishing. Everything about it made me fall in love. Personally I prefer sports watches, so the gator band isn’t for me. But I absolutely encourage people to try one on. What a piece! Top top top brand. *I’m not getting paid to say this.
I've experienced several version of the "Snowflake" by this point, but the 407 is my favorite. If I were to buy one, I'd collect some kind of water resistant strap before putting the watch into my daily rotation. Best, Tim
I really like the Skyflake. Grand Seiko has been doing some things with color that other makers could learn from. I much prefer this lighter blue to the usual dark midnight blue that most blue dial watches seem to me. Likewise, their light pink version of this is also pretty striking. I'm hoping the trend of doing Salmon colored dials is fading. If it looks like the color of hospital scrubs, it probably isn't a good color to use on a watch.
The Skyflake flew under the radar in 2019 to the point that I didn't encounter my first until November in Dubai. This may have been my favorite new watch of the year. Best, Tim
Great collection of watches, Thanks Tim :) I have to say my favorites are the GS Skyflake (2020 first on the buy list) and the PP Perpetual Calendar Chronograph (kind of a grail watch) Much better than the last one, the quality of the pixelation wise.
I love that Grand Seiko, and it's a relatively new discovery. I saw my first example at the Dubai airport during my late 2019 world tour to Singapore and Dubai Watch Week. Check out my Philippe Dufour interview from Dubai; it will be on the other channel tomorrow morning. Best, Tim
Yeah, that was the hands-down choice to finish the program. Nothing else really had a shot even though I gave passing through to the Vacheron. Best, Tim
Arnold & Son is the definition of an "underrated" brand. From ergonomics to materials to engineering, each Arnold & Son watch represents a potential class-leader. I'm a huge fan of the UTTE and CTB chronograph. Fun fact: I narrated the Arnold & Son "Only Watch" promo video that was shown at the auction. They asked me out of the blue if I'd be interested, and I was shocked that an OEM would reach out to a pre-owned marketer who's not an AD of the brand. Best, Tim
Yeah, low $30,000s for the Duometre is epic value considering that they cost about $52,000 new in 2013. For the money you're getting JLC's highest level of finish, and the company rarely offers that refinement on watches priced under $100,000. Best, Tim
I can't. My shooting location is changing, and this awkward set doesn't travel. Improvements will be made to the new site. At the old site, I'm losing up to two hours per day commuting, and the new set is in the same building was the safe. Best, Tim
Have a nice weekend Tim and the crew at WatchBox. Happy Chinese New Year to all Asian viewer who are celebrating. Hope you guys have better luck than me this year talking about watches during gatherings..
I was disappointed when I saw Laurent Ferrier launch a dial-side tourbillon version of this watch. It seemed like a sell-out of the brand's values of discretion, restraint, and timeless beauty. Caseback-only tourbillon watches are rare these days. Best, Tim
It's surprising how few bracelet-equipped Panerai models exist. Especially given the market trends of the moment, I would have expected Panerai to push this kind of product with more conviction. Best, Tim
As a young man in the late 1960s early 1970s to improve my horology Knowledge I would take The 192 bus to The Central library Manchester England and spend hours !, Now I have Tim! Joy!
I like to think of these videos as online resources that will outlast my time in the industry. It makes me happy to think that these videos will endure as a body of work if I ever move on. Best, Tim
Great show as always. Don’t know how you could have sold that JLC Chrono, it’s too cool. I also like the PAN destro , it’s changing my mind about Paneri. Likewise the Skyflake is much more palatable in that case and that vintage Seamaster is special. Sort of what the new Bond watch has come to. Have a great weekend!
Thanks for supporting the show, Randy! I was quite conflicted about selling my collection, and that Duometre in particular was hard to lose. Ultimately, if I'm heading for law school, I probably made the right choice, but I'm not going to pretend it was a casual or straightforward decision. Best, Tim
@shaun king Was just saying check out an Arnold & Son in person one day if you haven't. If you have and didn't like I get it - That's all - no worries.
Very smart advertisement. Whatever you are doing don't change a thing. It's smart, concise and to the point. It's how advertising should be done. Oops one thing to change although you list the watches and prices it would be cool if you would list them in the order you talked about them. A cool white number on the lower screen to associate the watch to the listing. I would love to time stamp them for people who are interested in jumping to that particular watch.
We've discussed doing this for a while, and it's part of my plan going forward. At the moment, I select the watches, present the show, write the prose in the description, and dig through our inventory database to list the reference numbers and prices. Time-stamping is on the to-do list, but I need an assistant to add features beyond what's already present. Best, Tim
Hi Joseph, thanks for supporting the show. I agree that Lange is more appealing in most regards. The politics, prejudice, and pretense that drive the Journe community aren't for me. Best, Tim
Your understanding is correct. All Spring Drives are made in Nagano. In addition, machines such as High Beat 36000 are made of Iwate (Shizukuishi). By the way, the Winter Olympic Games were held in 1998 in Nagano！
Thanks for supporting the show, Craig. While Rolex content is mandatory for SEO and sales purposes, the other watches (e.g., Laurent Ferrier, Grand Seiko, Ressence) are where my passion lies. Even the Arnold & Son was a breath of fresh air compared to the Patek and Rolex content that I'm almost obligated to include. Best, Tim
Great review Tim. I wonder what a lot of watch enthusiasts would do/spend their time on, without your videos. In your review from 3 days ago you showed the Glashütte Original Panonatic Lunar (early 2000's edition). If ever possible, could you compare it against the 2015 counterpart? Thank you very much! Have a great weekend.
I adore that model. When I bought mine in 2013, I bought it new -- that's how motivated I was to own it. Almost everything else I've owned, I bought preowned. Best, Tim
47:00 "it will never be called petit, but it will always be acknowledged as discreet" you're probably the one in the watch community on youtube with a true grasp on the English language
Right? When was the last time you pace lined with more than five guys and nobody fought over spacing, wheel overlap, running reds and stop signs, or refusing to pull? Best, Tim
Idk why (probably my ocd) but I get nervous every time you lean forward to show a watch and rest your elbow amongst the super high value watches😳lol but keep doing what your doing cause the content is awesome!
I have a monitor that allows me to see the macro shot clarity, and I can see my elbow location on the table even when I'm looking at the camera. Best, Tim
Isn't that VC a monster? It was a $100,000 watch nearly 20 years ago when that sum had vastly more purchasing power than it does today. And at 39mm, anyone can enjoy this multi-complication in platinum from an all-time great brand. Best, Tim
Tim, I am looking for a affordable weeekend/jack-of-all-trades manual watch. My daily wear, because of my suited up job, is a JLC Master Grande Taille (loving it)! I was thinking of a Nomos Club Campus Nacht (the autocorrect changes to nacho, lol) but was also eyeing one of manual, used chronographes from Breitling or Zénith (prime HW). Any thoughts? ;)
Any of the "Caliber B02" Breitlings are a good choice. The 2019 Navitimer 1959 806 re-edition might be the perfect match for what you have in mind. There are a few Lemania 1873 Breitlings from the 1990s that offer manual chronograph action. Zenith's El Primero caliber 420/4020 isn't terribly common, so you might be hunting for one of those for a longer time. In any case, a manual El Primero seems unnatural, and the appearance of the movement without its winding system isn't terribly attractive; it looks like a conversion. Best, Tim
I haven't done wrist checks in a while since it's always the same watch. While I used to do it, the show now is so packed with metal that I decided to save that 1-2 minutes of introductory chat for the inventory. Best, Tim
@@the1916companywatchreviews i like wrist checks anyway :) I like the 'today I' m waring the xxx' and sometimes your not waring the same watch. And that makes it a thing. Just my oppinion. keep up the good job!
I usually wear my hair pretty close cut for a bunch of reasons, but drying after my countless post-cycling showers is a major advantage. Especially in the winter, a quick dry is worth the somewhat unapproachable look I carry around the office when my hair is that short. Best, Tim
@@the1916companywatchreviews Short hair is an 'unapproachable look'? Not sure how that is true? Maybe I don't know the full history/context of short hair.
Honestly the best part of my week is getting up early saturday with my 1 year old son and watching this series before mommy wakes up. We are big fans of mosso, and even bigger fans of these amazing timepieces.
Thank you for supporting my work! It's important to get new watch enthusiasts started while they'r young :-)
Best,
Tim
GS SBGA407 what a beauty!! Really a great watch with the unique spring drive movement 😎
That GS Skyflake...wow. Just wow. Amazing.
Having experienced four versions of the Snowflake, this SBGA407 is my favorite. Grand Seiko took the time to change the case and character of the watch along with the color of the dial, and I appreciate the extra thought that gives this model its own identity.
Best,
Tim
I got a Hulk a couple of weeks ago, I am really delighted with it.
I went into a Mayor’s in Orlando last week and tried on a Seiko Grand Skyflake, held them side by side. I was blown away; the sweep of the second hand, the polish of the markers and hands, the depth of the dial, case finishing. Everything about it made me fall in love.
Personally I prefer sports watches, so the gator band isn’t for me. But I absolutely encourage people to try one on. What a piece!
Top top top brand.
*I’m not getting paid to say this.
I've experienced several version of the "Snowflake" by this point, but the 407 is my favorite. If I were to buy one, I'd collect some kind of water resistant strap before putting the watch into my daily rotation.
Best,
Tim
@shaun king For the price, it's up there at the top. No, I don't wear Walmat sneakers, how do you enjoy them?
I really like the Skyflake. Grand Seiko has been doing some things with color that other makers could learn from. I much prefer this lighter blue to the usual dark midnight blue that most blue dial watches seem to me. Likewise, their light pink version of this is also pretty striking. I'm hoping the trend of doing Salmon colored dials is fading. If it looks like the color of hospital scrubs, it probably isn't a good color to use on a watch.
The Skyflake flew under the radar in 2019 to the point that I didn't encounter my first until November in Dubai. This may have been my favorite new watch of the year.
Best,
Tim
Glad to see you're back in the proper studio.
And good to see the sunglasses back.
We're going to work on that second site and perfect it before heading back. I heard the critiques, and all will be addressed.
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Tim
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Great collection of watches, Thanks Tim :)
I have to say my favorites are the GS Skyflake (2020 first on the buy list) and the PP Perpetual Calendar Chronograph (kind of a grail watch)
Much better than the last one, the quality of the pixelation wise.
I love that Grand Seiko, and it's a relatively new discovery. I saw my first example at the Dubai airport during my late 2019 world tour to Singapore and Dubai Watch Week. Check out my Philippe Dufour interview from Dubai; it will be on the other channel tomorrow morning.
Best,
Tim
Tourbillon in the caseback, GPHG award winner, Assegai hands and Laurent Ferrier Geneve on the grand feu enamel dial.........heaven on the wrist.
Yeah, that was the hands-down choice to finish the program. Nothing else really had a shot even though I gave passing through to the Vacheron.
Best,
Tim
Tim is a national treasure. Protect him at all costs!
love the Patek's from the era of the Geneva Seal... they're a cut above.
The Arnold & son UTTE: that movement is art!
Arnold & Son is the definition of an "underrated" brand. From ergonomics to materials to engineering, each Arnold & Son watch represents a potential class-leader. I'm a huge fan of the UTTE and CTB chronograph. Fun fact: I narrated the Arnold & Son "Only Watch" promo video that was shown at the auction. They asked me out of the blue if I'd be interested, and I was shocked that an OEM would reach out to a pre-owned marketer who's not an AD of the brand.
Best,
Tim
WatchBox Reviews you are absolutely incredible Tim 👍
100 percent agree.....and that second hand price is incredible!!
117 is good value. JLC Duo black is the best bang for buck in used high horology. The Laurent Ferrier wins the show.
Yeah, low $30,000s for the Duometre is epic value considering that they cost about $52,000 new in 2013. For the money you're getting JLC's highest level of finish, and the company rarely offers that refinement on watches priced under $100,000.
Best,
Tim
I like the "old" set. I don't find it distracting, but comforting. I think just keep it.
I can't. My shooting location is changing, and this awkward set doesn't travel. Improvements will be made to the new site. At the old site, I'm losing up to two hours per day commuting, and the new set is in the same building was the safe.
Best,
Tim
OMG the Ressence is a thing of wonder. Lovely.
SBGA407 = Grail
^This.
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Tim
That dial is just absolute gorgeousness
The "Skyflake?" Totally.
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Tim
Have a nice weekend Tim and the crew at WatchBox. Happy Chinese New Year to all Asian viewer who are celebrating. Hope you guys have better luck than me this year talking about watches during gatherings..
Happy New Year, and thank you for supporting my work! May this year be your happiest and healthiest yet.
Best,
Tim
That Laurent Ferrier is absolutely gorgeous, understatement at its best.
I was disappointed when I saw Laurent Ferrier launch a dial-side tourbillon version of this watch. It seemed like a sell-out of the brand's values of discretion, restraint, and timeless beauty. Caseback-only tourbillon watches are rare these days.
Best,
Tim
Video quality is epic on the big screen via YT.. the Panerai on the bracelet would be a great all around watch ✌
It's surprising how few bracelet-equipped Panerai models exist. Especially given the market trends of the moment, I would have expected Panerai to push this kind of product with more conviction.
Best,
Tim
As a young man in the late 1960s early 1970s to improve my horology Knowledge I would take The 192 bus to The Central library Manchester England and spend hours !, Now I have Tim! Joy!
I like to think of these videos as online resources that will outlast my time in the industry. It makes me happy to think that these videos will endure as a body of work if I ever move on.
Best,
Tim
I think this would be the ultimate compliment one can receive, and Tim surely deserves it. Well put Steve!
Great show as always. Don’t know how you could have sold that JLC Chrono, it’s too cool. I also like the PAN destro , it’s changing my mind about Paneri. Likewise the Skyflake is much more palatable in that case and that vintage Seamaster is special. Sort of what the new Bond watch has come to.
Have a great weekend!
Thanks for supporting the show, Randy! I was quite conflicted about selling my collection, and that Duometre in particular was hard to lose. Ultimately, if I'm heading for law school, I probably made the right choice, but I'm not going to pretend it was a casual or straightforward decision.
Best,
Tim
That A&S is absolutely amazing.
It's one of the best from the brand. Also, it's an incredible way to own a hand-finished tourbillon for under $20,000.
Best,
Tim
What do you mean Shaun? Have you had a bad experience with the company?
If you haven't, check one out in person one day Shaun. It might change your mind.
@shaun king Was just saying check out an Arnold & Son in person one day if you haven't. If you have and didn't like I get it - That's all - no worries.
Very smart advertisement. Whatever you are doing don't change a thing. It's smart, concise and to the point. It's how advertising should be done. Oops one thing to change although you list the watches and prices it would be cool if you would list them in the order you talked about them. A cool white number on the lower screen to associate the watch to the listing. I would love to time stamp them for people who are interested in jumping to that particular watch.
That JLC is just perfection.
Great show! Thank you for posting prices for these watches, would it be possible to add time during the episode that each watch is featured?
We've discussed doing this for a while, and it's part of my plan going forward. At the moment, I select the watches, present the show, write the prose in the description, and dig through our inventory database to list the reference numbers and prices. Time-stamping is on the to-do list, but I need an assistant to add features beyond what's already present.
Best,
Tim
The legend that is Tim Mosso!!!
You're too kind! These presentations remain a source of immense enjoyment and satisfaction: the highlight of my work week.
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Tim
Thanks Sean!
Yeah, he did a solid job today. Sean also deactivated the auto-focus that sabotaged half of the Wednesday show.
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Tim
Another great lineup Tim, I've always felt more of a connection to Lange than Journe. Have a great weekend!
Hi Joseph, thanks for supporting the show. I agree that Lange is more appealing in most regards. The politics, prejudice, and pretense that drive the Journe community aren't for me.
Best,
Tim
Stunning amount of information here. Your knowledge is very impressive.
Thank you for supporting my work, Adam! Presenting the two "Watches" shows is the highlight of my week.
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Tim
Ohhhh Yeah weekend watches feast!!!!!
Did you have a favorite from today's stock?
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Tim
@@@the1916companywatchreviews Hell yeah Tim!!!!!
I thought all the spring drive GS were made in Nagano (mid-west Japan) not northern Japan (Iwate prefecture) as you alluded to here?
Your understanding is correct. All Spring Drives are made in Nagano. In addition, machines such as High Beat 36000 are made of Iwate (Shizukuishi). By the way, the Winter Olympic Games were held in 1998 in Nagano！
You gave me my watch fix for today. Great selections
Thanks for supporting the show, Craig. While Rolex content is mandatory for SEO and sales purposes, the other watches (e.g., Laurent Ferrier, Grand Seiko, Ressence) are where my passion lies. Even the Arnold & Son was a breath of fresh air compared to the Patek and Rolex content that I'm almost obligated to include.
Best,
Tim
@@the1916companywatchreviews would love to see a comparison between Monta and Certina
Great review Tim. I wonder what a lot of watch enthusiasts would do/spend their time on, without your videos.
In your review from 3 days ago you showed the Glashütte Original Panonatic Lunar (early 2000's edition). If ever possible, could you compare it against the 2015 counterpart? Thank you very much! Have a great weekend.
Hi Vinnie, thanks for supporting the show. I'll see if I can find both Panos in stock at the same time.
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Tim
Very nice show Tim.
The LF is definitively my pick of the day!
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Amintas
The dial of the Laurent Ferrier seems to have a weird horizontal line at its center. Maybe just an optical illusion due to the studio lighting?
That Arnold and Son is an absolute steal
That JLC Duometre is insane. It’s mesmerizing how that complication is made.
I adore that model. When I bought mine in 2013, I bought it new -- that's how motivated I was to own it. Almost everything else I've owned, I bought preowned.
Best,
Tim
More weekly content, nice job Mosso and Crew!
47:00 "it will never be called petit, but it will always be acknowledged as discreet" you're probably the one in the watch community on youtube with a true grasp on the English language
Tim I love the new set ;) and being a roadie myself truer words were never spoken - I hate most other roadies!
Right? When was the last time you pace lined with more than five guys and nobody fought over spacing, wheel overlap, running reds and stop signs, or refusing to pull?
Best,
Tim
Great show as always, Tim. You 'da man.
Much appreciated; this feedback makes my day.
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Tim
The Pam with bracelet is fire...and I am not a Pam guy!
And at 42mm, the size is right. Panerai nailed this dial and overall proportions.
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Tim
Happy Chinese New Year! great show as always
And also to you, Peter!
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Tim
Idk why (probably my ocd) but I get nervous every time you lean forward to show a watch and rest your elbow amongst the super high value watches😳lol but keep doing what your doing cause the content is awesome!
I have a monitor that allows me to see the macro shot clarity, and I can see my elbow location on the table even when I'm looking at the camera.
Best,
Tim
Can someone please tell Me how the strap is changed on the Ressence? Tnx.
Amazing
Welcome back weekend sunglasses! You too, Tim :) I ❤️ VC malte!
Isn't that VC a monster? It was a $100,000 watch nearly 20 years ago when that sum had vastly more purchasing power than it does today. And at 39mm, anyone can enjoy this multi-complication in platinum from an all-time great brand.
Best,
Tim
classic beautiful super
Tim, I am looking for a affordable weeekend/jack-of-all-trades manual watch. My daily wear, because of my suited up job, is a JLC Master Grande Taille (loving it)! I was thinking of a Nomos Club Campus Nacht (the autocorrect changes to nacho, lol) but was also eyeing one of manual, used chronographes from Breitling or Zénith (prime HW). Any thoughts? ;)
Any of the "Caliber B02" Breitlings are a good choice. The 2019 Navitimer 1959 806 re-edition might be the perfect match for what you have in mind. There are a few Lemania 1873 Breitlings from the 1990s that offer manual chronograph action.
Zenith's El Primero caliber 420/4020 isn't terribly common, so you might be hunting for one of those for a longer time. In any case, a manual El Primero seems unnatural, and the appearance of the movement without its winding system isn't terribly attractive; it looks like a conversion.
Best,
Tim
Btw you did not do today’s wristcheck.
I haven't done wrist checks in a while since it's always the same watch. While I used to do it, the show now is so packed with metal that I decided to save that 1-2 minutes of introductory chat for the inventory.
Best,
Tim
@@the1916companywatchreviews i like wrist checks anyway :) I like the 'today I' m waring the xxx' and sometimes your not waring the same watch. And that makes it a thing. Just my oppinion. keep up the good job!
Super👍
Does Arnold & Son qualify as an indie? Aren't they owned by Citizen?
Go with a shorter cut for the hair, TLM...best advice I can give
I'm keeping it long for a little bit for my mom, who hates when I cut it. But I'll probably get a haircut this weekend.
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Tim
@@the1916companywatchreviews Sorry I know it's none of my business...I meant long term
I usually wear my hair pretty close cut for a bunch of reasons, but drying after my countless post-cycling showers is a major advantage. Especially in the winter, a quick dry is worth the somewhat unapproachable look I carry around the office when my hair is that short.
Best,
Tim
@@the1916companywatchreviews Short hair is an 'unapproachable look'? Not sure how that is true? Maybe I don't know the full history/context of short hair.
Mark S lol we truly live in a different world. I'm bald. Truly unapproachable
Огонь 🔥🔥🔥
You guys need better lighting. You need light diffusion.
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Wow OMG ;
So there is no Casino for sale because that is all I can afford.
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Are the sunglasses a "thing"? Because it's pretty damn weird..
How dark is this studio?
This shouldn't be the dark studio. I know the new facility trialled on Wednesday has a few lighting challenges to be overcome.
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Tim
Now breathe...♥♡
Damn you look nothing like what I expected from the sound of your voice.
Who the hell can afford a patek ? It costs the same as a house. I would rather buy a house
everyone comes here to see the review on the Daytona , YES or NO...?...
That's there for the search engines. I suspect most of this crowd arrived for the Grand Seiko.
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Tim
Talk slower.
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