I don't recall whose vid it was, but someone did a tutorial on the Green Stuff World metall pigments, and instead of regular medium, he used Vallejo Metal Varnish, the brilliant version. That was a gamechanger for me in terms of true metal gold.
Your advertising worked. I didn't end up buying anything, but I checked them out. They probably can't because of IP rights, but if they were able to do figures of Brom's magic cards from the 90s they could just have all my money. Also, I prefer .stls
@@NikoMoraKamu Yeah, it looks UGLY. Maybe it's nice paint, but gold, it isn't, and the testers who gave it high score must be blind. Weathered bronze, sure, but gold? Wot?
I've always heard that the base coat can really affect how vibrant a gold layer will be. Can you do a similar video with your top three colors over the top of different colored base coats (say grey, white, and red) to see how the base coat effects the final look?
Came here to make a similar comment. Not all metallics are made to be painted over black. But I would also say that using only the top three is a bad idea because these paints already are proven to be good with black. It’s likely not worth making another video I would like to see zenith primed minis and spoons if you do another test like this.
True as that might be, it would be an unbais test. Doing them all over the same base coat gives it a, well.... baseline. Honestly I think the GSW pigment should be disqualified, because its not a paint its a pigment.
Honestly best looking gold I've seen so far is Vallejo model color Bronze. Yeah it's a bit funny how "bronze" is the best gold but it really is just incredible. To my eye at least it registers far more as a gold that has been forged into armor than any of the gold paints do.
@@jpf338 Well I simply apply it with a brush over primer,it's actually insane how well it covers everything,straight up just one thin coat is all you need. As for the latter question I highlight it by just doing some color mixing,so you know adding some shades of green and purple to it as glazes and then for the shadows I just mix the bronze paint with bit of black,any black will do but I use Kimera kolors for that. If you're not a fan of manually painting your shadows or you're painting many models at the same time you could just use a wash and it would be fine.
@@saltybob3711 I never have any problems with may be your batch came bad or something? I mean the color is not the one most likes, but never read on someone having trouble applaying it.
I'm impressed that Citadel managed to come out so well. I think I'm going to get some, it was probably my favourite in terms of what I want my gold color to look like. I'm not surprised that Army Painter came in near the end. It's a really good paint for the price usually, but you get what you pay for. Discount wares for discount price. My biggest beef with Army Painter has been the inconsistency of the quality. Some tubes will be amazing to work with, others will be a total nightmare.
@@puntedagain398 yes the metal colour gold and the copper should be mixed with one another to get the best gold you can get from that paint. 50/50 mix is a good starting point.
I've noticed Gunpla and 40k/Fantasy painters rarely use the same brands of paint. I think you'd be really interested in Mr Color's Mr Metal Gold. It's got a really unique feature of going on with a dull finish that you can then polish by hand and it kinda does the edge highlights for you. Downside is that it's really air brush only.
I've noticed this as well. As an armor modeler myself, I was surprised there wasn't a Mr. Hobby or Tamiya paint in this list. Personally, I like Tamiya Titan Gold.
I've used sally hansen color foil nail polish usually the chrome and the gold for various art projects because it has a better mirrored finish than any paint I've been able to find and it's pretty inexpensive it can be brushed or used in a sprayer without clogging it. A little tip I've learned through the years is if you use a metallic silver or chrome under coat it helps gold paint pop and have a more mirrored metallic finish
I love the AK interactive gold. It’s more of a rub and buff than a “paint” I also find the GW paint to red for my taste but I will be looking at the others as I’ve been on the look out for a good gold for an age. Thank you 👍🏻
I've had good success mixing the GSW pigments with other gold paints - specifically S75 Necro Gold and Peridot Alchemy. I also add a touch of thinner and flow improver. It doesn't change the colour too much but really helps get rid of visible pigments on the miniature.
My Vallejo Metal Color looks so different to yours through the airbrush - yeah it's a greenish (i.e. realistic) tone but I always get beautiful, smooth, consistent coverage. Maybe you got a bad batch or didn't mix it well enough. Great video!
Greenstuff world pigments metals are amazing! Also really love their bronze, and how you can mix them with inks and varnishes. Warning; they will totally ruin your brushes, even more so than normal metallic paints, and you also don't want to spill this stuff on your workbench!
Shortly after the war, my grandfather made decorative shop windows by hand. It was not like today that you can order everything. So he did everything from scratch letters, posters, decor of the site itself. From my mother's stories, I know that he was just using the kind of gold you presented from green stuff world. In addition, he blown it with a glass tube on the decorated surface, sometimes mixed with various types of medium. In Poland, we call this product "gold", we can call it a gold pigment. You can certainly get these pigments from any well-stocked artist store. Sometimes the best solutions are those discovered long ago, why reinvent the wheel :) At least when you mix paints in this way, you can feel like Leonardo da Vinci creating paint from a combination of pigment and egg yolk. Regards, a very factual review you can learn a lot.
FYI, I believe the wax based AK True Metal range are designed so that they can be buffed for a smoother metallic effect. The AK Xtreme Metal range are their airbrush metallics - just in case you think you still don't have enough gold paint!
Vince convinced me to pick up a bottle GSW's metal gold a few months ago and loved the results. Even with some dollar store medium and synthetic brush, the stuff goes on really well and love the warm color after a wash with soft tone.
I actually enjoy the look of the true metals by abteilung 502. Mineral spirits for thinner. But also I used with blend of oils to weather and then highlight. But for a clean look...Def not. you can buff with them which is cool and it smoothes everything out more.
Thank you for doing the science! I'm bookmarking this video for next time I need to order gold paint. Really surprising that Vallejo (who are generally the go-to company for metallics - especially silver and steel) only reached fifth place. That just shows how incredibly good the top ones are.
But how accurate is it to real gold in colour? I suggest We need a second test where you are painting gold on a gold bar ;-) Nice work I love these tests to compare different colours
I’d love to know how you thinned the products for airbrush. My personal favorite gold recipe (although I haven’t done an exhaustive study) is to Vallejo metal color then spray brown ink over it. It created a very deep rich true metal effect.
My go to gold at the moment is VMC cavalry brown basecoat and AK old gold on top of that. That gives me a very warm, yellow gold not unlike retributor armor (minus retributor's awful grainy finish).
Surely it's best to pick the one that most fits what you want it to look like on the model? In terms of the 'goldiest' (nice word btw) gold, an example of actual gold to compare the models to might have made for a more definitive or better defined comparison. The golds all lined up looked like any other colours would. Better to have a nice range to choose from than just one that looks the most gold.
My go to have and will always be retributor armour and Balthazar's gold from games workshop :) you actually don't want to water them down as much as he did for the brush test, otherwise the metal flakes separate. It's designed to be painted with a brush pretty much straight out of the pot, with just a drop of water, I get perfect coverage everytime, no brush strokes, only one layer required on black primer, 2 on white primer.
The Vallejo Metal Color Gold IS silver with green/yellow ink in it, because it uses aluminum flakes or something like that which is why there's like a dozen silvers and just one gold and I think copper.
Awesome! It's nice to see the range. Depending on the color scheme it's nice to be able to push the gold hue and value in different directions. Thanks for the comparison!
I printed a horse statue yesterday for a friend and she wantedit to be golden. I bought Vallejo Metal Gold because this range is praised by a lot of people (including several youtubers). I painted the statue this morning and was not very pleased with the colour but thought it might be the light... yeah but i guess this gold is not that great
THE BEST medium for the gold from Greenstuff World is to mix it about 50/50 with a 50/50 of vallejo airbrush thinner and vallejo gloss polyurethane varnish. This is one of the best golds and the only thing better/more reflective/shinnier is a spaz stix chrome over a super gloss black primer with alclad II candy gold over the top (all thru an airbrush) which is hard to do right, a toxic pain to deal with, and only good for larger surfaces or whole models.
I like Alclad II Pale Gold. It's a lacquer paint and airbrush only but if I'm able to airbrush whatever it is I want to be gold then I like the results I get with it.
Green Stuff world pure metal Gold pigment works great and have a nice finish but it's quite delicate to the touch. It will start falling/fading if you rub it. Surely it will improve with a pigment fixer, but I've not tested it yet.
I love my Vallejo Model Colour Brass (70.801). It may not be named "gold" but applyed with a brush it looks almost 1:1 like Citadel Retributor Armour when applied with an airbrush. For my SoB I use the Retributor Armour spraycan to prime them and if there´s any gold needed to cover up mistakes, I use the Vallejo Brass.
I'm honestly going to stick with my liquid old gold cause I don't mind the effort, and on a small model that's not entirely covered, I find that it really gains ground.
1:44 I fucking love it when all you painting RUclipsrs cameo in each others' videos, like you dropping into Midwinter Minis' that one time just to say "Eyyy, I gotchu buddy" XD Really builds a great sense of community.
I Like Vince .V`s: 3 drops Vallejo metal color gold 2 drops Vallejo metal color copper 1/128th teaspoon Greenstuff World pure metal antique gold 1 drop flow improver
i personally was always a fan of P3 metallic colors. i started with them by accident and love the saturation and metallic look to them. i usually highlight with a very bright gold on a retributor armor primed with the GW can .
Completely agree about the citadel gold. Horrible to brush with but I was gobsmacked how good it went through an airbrush when I tried it a few weeks ago
Thank you, a metallic video without Vince wouldn't be complete. Happy that you tried the greenstuffworld gold pigments mit vallejo metal varnish that gets the Vince approval. I have it but need to check out the mixing ratio again, cause it was a pain to paint with the amounts I mixed. Out of the bottle my favorite is scales necro gold
Talking about gold I really appreciate the retributor armour. But sometimes I gain other variants using different bases and gold on them to variate final results
I was surprised at how poorly the Metal Color did, considering how great my experiences have been with their silvers. More fuel for the fire of my desire to try more Pro Acryl paints, I suppose. :)
@@theinternetofrandomthings7796 Its a white gold. It uses aluminium flakes like all the other VMC colours and I think that won't allow for a rich, yellow gold.
Go on... Gently caress the button... You know you want to and it'll give you GOLD... BUT while being serious with this, I think I might head to the local game shop and grab the Citadel Retributor Armor. It just has a nice poppy yellow gold to it :D
I have painted 5k points of Custodes using retributor armor and watched this video specifically to see if there was another gold I should start using... I'm just set on keeping using it now.
Fascinating test mate. Sooooooo many variations I think I'd still go the colour I want first rather than how it paints out of a brush or airbrush. No point having a colour that goes on well but which you don't actually like the colour of!
Could have used a shot of the paints behind the models +spoons at the end there. "Which one's your favorite?" I don't know which one it is... That really dark gold, my first thought was bad, but literally a second later I thought a character with a darker theme, it'd be a way to make it gold without overpowering the rest of the colors. For a treasury loot, think I'd lean toward one of those orangy golds, with the saturated over color presentation.
For me, nothing will beat Vallejo Liquid Gold. Transfer some into a dropper bottle along with a dropper of isopropyl to keep it wet and it's really not that much of a pain to use.
I love the Pro Acryl Rich Gold. I'll try the GreenStuff pigment next. That P3 Blighted gold was interesting, Scale 75 Decayed metal is another good dark undercoat for gold.
One thing I would say about it is that it's better as a highlight for a darker gold with some red or green. It doesn't cover that well on its own in my experience.
tbh is it really that big of a surprise? retributor gold has essentially been the only gold of worth for GW and while it really does come out flaky it's also really easy to use. I use it as a warm undercoat sometimes to my better golds.
In Goldiest gold paint Blackest Black night No model shall escape my paint brushes sight Let those who worship washes might Beware my power and Squidmar's Brights! I thought of Green Lanterns oath after watching all these paint challenges.
I'd say Pro Acrylic won then as mixing the powder can have a lot of mixed results for people. Especially if they have never worked with paint in a powder before. With pro Acrylic you get the gold right out of the pot and it looks good without as much user errors.
Your test is basically reflecting my own opinion and tests. I tried many gold because I wasn't happy with many gold once I applied them with brush. GSW Pure Gold is by far my favorite, followed by Citadel Retributor and, close enough, Scale 75. The GSW Pure Gold is a delight when it comes to paint trims and details on a miniature with a brush. You don't have to make multiple passes. One stroke is often enough to have excellent coverage.
dude.... i have never painted a mini, never played warhammer.... but the past few days, ive been obsessed with your channel and your painting.... you definitely got a new subscriber.
I really enjoyed this thank you. I like this genre of vid where you look at the range of paint, I've seen the mirror & black ones too. Defo please do some more similar ones these are great.
Very informative. I’ve been loving the ProAcryl golds for some time now and good to see it rank highly. It would have been nice to see how the same paints brush onto miniatures too. Strokes on black paper look very different to on figures as a whole.
Was just scrolling down the comments if someone had mentioned Alclad yet. Their mirror finish variant metallics look positively insane when airbrushed on a properly prepared gloss black surface. They might not be that ideal for (gaming) miniature painting though, reportedly not being the most durable of paints and any protective clear coatings diminishing the effect.
![[DOKKAN BATTLE] Worldwide Campaign Announcement Video](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/zxfEiMksZQs/mqdefault.jpg)
Check out mindwork games Miniatures and use code: SQUIDWORK for 10% off! (only available for 7 days): www.mindworkgames.net
Do silver next please!
Look outside the hobby.
I use Liquid Leaf gold leaf paint.
I don't recall whose vid it was, but someone did a tutorial on the Green Stuff World metall pigments, and instead of regular medium, he used Vallejo Metal Varnish, the brilliant version. That was a gamechanger for me in terms of true metal gold.
What's the best Bone paint
Your advertising worked. I didn't end up buying anything, but I checked them out. They probably can't because of IP rights, but if they were able to do figures of Brom's magic cards from the 90s they could just have all my money. Also, I prefer .stls
Great video and thanks for the shoutout, that was very fun to join you a little. THe GSW is actually my new go-to for gold. :)
Thx for the cameo 😍
vallejo metal aluminum still for bright steel?
@@chrislee7704 Vallejo Metal Color is still my go to for steels, bar none. In fact, I might have a video coming soon on that...
@@VinceVenturella i have to say you are totally correct when you check the metal flakes. vallejo wins
@@VinceVenturella you've got your hands on the new formulation?
Somewhere in the US Vincey V. Is looking up from his paint desk and whispers "I can feel a great disturbance in the force"
all the love to vincey, may he rest in sprue pieces
cause hes right
Funny how "Green" Stuff World gold has actually a green tint to it.
it looks more bronze to me too
@@NikoMoraKamu Yeah, it looks UGLY. Maybe it's nice paint, but gold, it isn't, and the testers who gave it high score must be blind. Weathered bronze, sure, but gold? Wot?
@@KuK137 I think they were just rating it subjectively considering the only objective measure Emile mentioned ie texture.
I tried the greenstuff pigment gold and it's got a really weak bind to the model, you've gotta paint and then seal it in else it'll just rub off.
It does in the video, mine in real life looks much better
I've always heard that the base coat can really affect how vibrant a gold layer will be. Can you do a similar video with your top three colors over the top of different colored base coats (say grey, white, and red) to see how the base coat effects the final look?
Came here to make a similar comment. Not all metallics are made to be painted over black. But I would also say that using only the top three is a bad idea because these paints already are proven to be good with black.
It’s likely not worth making another video
I would like to see zenith primed minis and spoons if you do another test like this.
whatever hue you choose for metals, make sure it's glossy, or the metal flakes won't amount for jack shit
True as that might be, it would be an unbais test.
Doing them all over the same base coat gives it a, well.... baseline.
Honestly I think the GSW pigment should be disqualified, because its not a paint its a pigment.
Retributor armor over white is gorgeous highly recommend
This, 100%! I usually paint gold over a silver coat over black.
All this gold and no Custodes in sight?! Would love to see a Squidmar take on our golden boys! ♥️
Well clearly he has to find the best Gold first before he would dare grace the Custodes with his brush.
@@singularleaf3895 yup. dont want to risk committing heresy now. gotta make sure only the best of the best touches a custode
Honestly best looking gold I've seen so far is Vallejo model color Bronze. Yeah it's a bit funny how "bronze" is the best gold but it really is just incredible. To my eye at least it registers far more as a gold that has been forged into armor than any of the gold paints do.
Nice tip, how do you apply it? Do you use any other gold on top for light or something like that?
@@jpf338 Well I simply apply it with a brush over primer,it's actually insane how well it covers everything,straight up just one thin coat is all you need. As for the latter question I highlight it by just doing some color mixing,so you know adding some shades of green and purple to it as glazes and then for the shadows I just mix the bronze paint with bit of black,any black will do but I use Kimera kolors for that.
If you're not a fan of manually painting your shadows or you're painting many models at the same time you could just use a wash and it would be fine.
@@saltybob3711 I never have any problems with may be your batch came bad or something?
I mean the color is not the one most likes, but never read on someone having trouble applaying it.
@@saltybob3711 yeah I actually said the wrong thing. The bronze is a model color not game color.
It is pretty good. It's like the inverse of Citadel Balthasar Gold, which is way more bronze than gold.
Goldiest. The 110% actual existing word.
The most actualiest existingiest word ever.
Dunno, it seems perfectly cromulent
I'm the Goldiest
Haven't you heard the story of Goldiestlocks and the Three Bears?
They were the three-est bears to ever three.
I'm impressed that Citadel managed to come out so well.
I think I'm going to get some, it was probably my favourite in terms of what I want my gold color to look like.
I'm not surprised that Army Painter came in near the end.
It's a really good paint for the price usually, but you get what you pay for. Discount wares for discount price. My biggest beef with Army Painter has been the inconsistency of the quality.
Some tubes will be amazing to work with, others will be a total nightmare.
yeah i completely agree about army painter, they are very hit and miss.
"The most beautiful collection of golden boys you'll ever see"
*The Emperor would like to know your location*
Sudden Vince appearance. Not going to lie I thought about him when I saw the video.
Those results were quite unexpected.
Vince likes a mix right? Like two of the metal colors and the greenstuff pigments?
I should probably look that up before commenting
@@puntedagain398 yes the metal colour gold and the copper should be mixed with one another to get the best gold you can get from that paint. 50/50 mix is a good starting point.
The Emperor approves. Now paint some Custodes with it.
YEES PAINT THEIR SHINING GOLD SKIN, THEIR GLISENING BISEPS, RIPPLING WITH MUSCLE
@@tomfson8609 MY BUTTOX QUIVERS WITH ANTICIPATION!
@@tomfson8609 AY AY AY AY EEEEE!
that vince clip will do for a fine meme gif, thank you sir
I noticed the same thing with citadel's balthasar gold. It actually comes out beautifully through an airbrush.
I've noticed Gunpla and 40k/Fantasy painters rarely use the same brands of paint. I think you'd be really interested in Mr Color's Mr Metal Gold. It's got a really unique feature of going on with a dull finish that you can then polish by hand and it kinda does the edge highlights for you. Downside is that it's really air brush only.
I've noticed this as well. As an armor modeler myself, I was surprised there wasn't a Mr. Hobby or Tamiya paint in this list. Personally, I like Tamiya Titan Gold.
I've used sally hansen color foil nail polish usually the chrome and the gold for various art projects because it has a better mirrored finish than any paint I've been able to find and it's pretty inexpensive it can be brushed or used in a sprayer without clogging it. A little tip I've learned through the years is if you use a metallic silver or chrome under coat it helps gold paint pop and have a more mirrored metallic finish
I would love to see how the paints look over a gloss black basecoat. I think the paints would look different and often better!
I love the AK interactive gold. It’s more of a rub and buff than a “paint” I also find the GW paint to red for my taste but I will be looking at the others as I’ve been on the look out for a good gold for an age. Thank you 👍🏻
I also have a few of these and they're excellent. (The true metal wax ones).
Yeah, was coming to comment on this too, doesn’t look like it’s been buffed up at all so is quite flat.
I also prefer the AK gold once buffed/polished.
I just got a tube of this and was quite impressed with the finish. I assume it can't be airbruhed though?
I've had good success mixing the GSW pigments with other gold paints - specifically S75 Necro Gold and Peridot Alchemy. I also add a touch of thinner and flow improver. It doesn't change the colour too much but really helps get rid of visible pigments on the miniature.
My Vallejo Metal Color looks so different to yours through the airbrush - yeah it's a greenish (i.e. realistic) tone but I always get beautiful, smooth, consistent coverage. Maybe you got a bad batch or didn't mix it well enough. Great video!
I've always wondered if videos that compare a lot of paints inadvertently mix less.
That bit whith Vince and the pigments always makes me crack up. So funny
Greenstuff world pigments metals are amazing! Also really love their bronze, and how you can mix them with inks and varnishes. Warning; they will totally ruin your brushes, even more so than normal metallic paints, and you also don't want to spill this stuff on your workbench!
love me some decayed gold by scale 75. its a gold with a green tinge to it. looks sweet to put on a "deathguard" army.
Green Stuff World gold pigments even look better when mixed with molotow liquid chrome. You won't believe that shine!
lol that Vince clip XD
Scale 75 for me, they looked really good to 'my eye' via the medium of my monitor!
Shortly after the war, my grandfather made decorative shop windows by hand. It was not like today that you can order everything. So he did everything from scratch letters, posters, decor of the site itself. From my mother's stories, I know that he was just using the kind of gold you presented from green stuff world. In addition, he blown it with a glass tube on the decorated surface, sometimes mixed with various types of medium. In Poland, we call this product "gold", we can call it a gold pigment. You can certainly get these pigments from any well-stocked artist store. Sometimes the best solutions are those discovered long ago, why reinvent the wheel :) At least when you mix paints in this way, you can feel like Leonardo da Vinci creating paint from a combination of pigment and egg yolk. Regards, a very factual review you can learn a lot.
FYI, I believe the wax based AK True Metal range are designed so that they can be buffed for a smoother metallic effect. The AK Xtreme Metal range are their airbrush metallics - just in case you think you still don't have enough gold paint!
Yupp buff that wax paint on gloss black surface.
The Valjo metal gold looks good if you are doing a tarnished gold look.
Vince convinced me to pick up a bottle GSW's metal gold a few months ago and loved the results. Even with some dollar store medium and synthetic brush, the stuff goes on really well and love the warm color after a wash with soft tone.
Try them in Vallejo's Metal Varnish, the brilliant one. It makes the gold even goldier.
I'm using Green stuff world ''antique gold'' its covers very well and looks nice
I actually enjoy the look of the true metals by abteilung 502. Mineral spirits for thinner. But also I used with blend of oils to weather and then highlight. But for a clean look...Def not. you can buff with them which is cool and it smoothes everything out more.
Thank you for doing the science! I'm bookmarking this video for next time I need to order gold paint. Really surprising that Vallejo (who are generally the go-to company for metallics - especially silver and steel) only reached fifth place. That just shows how incredibly good the top ones are.
But how accurate is it to real gold in colour? I suggest We need a second test where you are painting gold on a gold bar ;-)
Nice work I love these tests to compare different colours
it depends which kind of gold i suppose lol
I really missed a comparison with a real piece of gold
I've always loved retributor armour gold. It always feels like a shame to shade and highlight it, it's great as it is.
It looks really awesome when drybrushed over bronze imo
Very timely tome and the Custodes figures I'm just putting together. I was at a loss for which gold to use. Thanks
I’d love to know how you thinned the products for airbrush.
My personal favorite gold recipe (although I haven’t done an exhaustive study) is to Vallejo metal color then spray brown ink over it. It created a very deep rich true metal effect.
My go to gold at the moment is VMC cavalry brown basecoat and AK old gold on top of that. That gives me a very warm, yellow gold not unlike retributor armor (minus retributor's awful grainy finish).
Surely it's best to pick the one that most fits what you want it to look like on the model? In terms of the 'goldiest' (nice word btw) gold, an example of actual gold to compare the models to might have made for a more definitive or better defined comparison. The golds all lined up looked like any other colours would. Better to have a nice range to choose from than just one that looks the most gold.
lmao, reading title my first thought was "The quest for the gaudiest of miniatures"
I really like the 'warmth ' of the rich and dwarven gold paints
I use Vallejo, Citadel, Tamiya and Mr Hobby and the Mr Hobby/Metal Color to me is the best if applied correctly through the airbrush.
My favorite gold is a 1:1 mix of gore grunta fur over any silver. I got this technique from Juan Hidalgo minis. He uses Canopic alloy.
My go to have and will always be retributor armour and Balthazar's gold from games workshop :) you actually don't want to water them down as much as he did for the brush test, otherwise the metal flakes separate. It's designed to be painted with a brush pretty much straight out of the pot, with just a drop of water, I get perfect coverage everytime, no brush strokes, only one layer required on black primer, 2 on white primer.
The Vallejo Metal Color Gold IS silver with green/yellow ink in it, because it uses aluminum flakes or something like that which is why there's like a dozen silvers and just one gold and I think copper.
Awesome! It's nice to see the range. Depending on the color scheme it's nice to be able to push the gold hue and value in different directions. Thanks for the comparison!
Funny, mixing Vallejo Metal Color Gold (it does have a weird green/yellow tone) with vallejo metal color copper you get a great gold tone
I have great results from a Gloss black primer with the Amsterdam Gold acrylic inks.
52 Miniatures did a video on the Green Stuff World gold and it looks even better in his video.
I personally found Vallejo Liquid Gold series and AK 502 wax series are best with dry brushing.
Vallejo metal color are the best silver ones hands down, but I always thought the gold looked off
omg i needed this video before i started my stormcast.
We need a video like this for silver and copper paint, PLEASEEEE
I printed a horse statue yesterday for a friend and she wantedit to be golden. I bought Vallejo Metal Gold because this range is praised by a lot of people (including several youtubers). I painted the statue this morning and was not very pleased with the colour but thought it might be the light... yeah but i guess this gold is not that great
With such a wide variety of hues and saturations, I can see using them all in their strongest application forms with NMM techniques.
THE BEST medium for the gold from Greenstuff World is to mix it about 50/50 with a 50/50 of vallejo airbrush thinner and vallejo gloss polyurethane varnish.
This is one of the best golds and the only thing better/more reflective/shinnier is a spaz stix chrome over a super gloss black primer with alclad II candy gold over the top (all thru an airbrush) which is hard to do right, a toxic pain to deal with, and only good for larger surfaces or whole models.
I like Alclad II Pale Gold. It's a lacquer paint and airbrush only but if I'm able to airbrush whatever it is I want to be gold then I like the results I get with it.
Green Stuff world pure metal Gold pigment works great and have a nice finish but it's quite delicate to the touch. It will start falling/fading if you rub it. Surely it will improve with a pigment fixer, but I've not tested it yet.
I love my Vallejo Model Colour Brass (70.801). It may not be named "gold" but applyed with a brush it looks almost 1:1 like Citadel Retributor Armour when applied with an airbrush. For my SoB I use the Retributor Armour spraycan to prime them and if there´s any gold needed to cover up mistakes, I use the Vallejo Brass.
Green stuff has been crushing it recently with their paint and pigment lines
The hard cut to Vince made me actually LOL
I'm honestly going to stick with my liquid old gold cause I don't mind the effort, and on a small model that's not entirely covered, I find that it really gains ground.
1:44 I fucking love it when all you painting RUclipsrs cameo in each others' videos, like you dropping into Midwinter Minis' that one time just to say "Eyyy, I gotchu buddy" XD Really builds a great sense of community.
I always get the Warhammer paints because I have the convenience that the Warhammer store is a 20 minute walk from my apartment...
I Like Vince .V`s:
3 drops Vallejo metal color gold
2 drops Vallejo metal color copper
1/128th teaspoon Greenstuff World pure metal antique gold
1 drop flow improver
i personally was always a fan of P3 metallic colors. i started with them by accident and love the saturation and metallic look to them. i usually highlight with a very bright gold on a retributor armor primed with the GW can .
Completely agree about the citadel gold. Horrible to brush with but I was gobsmacked how good it went through an airbrush when I tried it a few weeks ago
I’m using retributor armor right now on my imperial knight
"This canvas paint thinks it's great, but can it compete at a completely different job with paints specifically tailored to purpose?"
Thank you, a metallic video without Vince wouldn't be complete. Happy that you tried the greenstuffworld gold pigments mit vallejo metal varnish that gets the Vince approval. I have it but need to check out the mixing ratio again, cause it was a pain to paint with the amounts I mixed. Out of the bottle my favorite is scales necro gold
Talking about gold I really appreciate the retributor armour. But sometimes I gain other variants using different bases and gold on them to variate final results
I was surprised at how poorly the Metal Color did, considering how great my experiences have been with their silvers.
More fuel for the fire of my desire to try more Pro Acryl paints, I suppose. :)
He's not wrong though, the MC gold is dull and lacks the lustre of the scale 75 or the pro acryl. A real step down from their MC other metallics.
@@theinternetofrandomthings7796 Its a white gold. It uses aluminium flakes like all the other VMC colours and I think that won't allow for a rich, yellow gold.
It has it's place... just not for the kind of gold people expect.
Go on... Gently caress the button... You know you want to and it'll give you GOLD... BUT while being serious with this, I think I might head to the local game shop and grab the Citadel Retributor Armor. It just has a nice poppy yellow gold to it :D
I've been using the warcolours paints and loving those myself.
I have painted 5k points of Custodes using retributor armor and watched this video specifically to see if there was another gold I should start using... I'm just set on keeping using it now.
you need to buff the ak true gold. its actually amazing.
Vallejo liquid gold is great but tricky to use. I went to vallejo metal color gold and its great. Super pale but looks great with a sepia wash
Agreed. Vallejo liquid gold is my go to. I absolutely love it. I just avoid brush painting and only use it with airbrush.
Thumbs up for the Vince cameo!
Fascinating test mate. Sooooooo many variations I think I'd still go the colour I want first rather than how it paints out of a brush or airbrush. No point having a colour that goes on well but which you don't actually like the colour of!
Turbodork gold is great as a wash but it is so thin out of the bottle it takes so many coats for full coverage
Could have used a shot of the paints behind the models +spoons at the end there.
"Which one's your favorite?" I don't know which one it is...
That really dark gold, my first thought was bad, but literally a second later I thought a character with a darker theme, it'd be a way to make it gold without overpowering the rest of the colors.
For a treasury loot, think I'd lean toward one of those orangy golds, with the saturated over color presentation.
Extra like for the Vince drop in. Immediately heard his comment the second before the insert. Another amazing video!
For me, nothing will beat Vallejo Liquid Gold. Transfer some into a dropper bottle along with a dropper of isopropyl to keep it wet and it's really not that much of a pain to use.
I love the Pro Acryl Rich Gold. I'll try the GreenStuff pigment next. That P3 Blighted gold was interesting, Scale 75 Decayed metal is another good dark undercoat for gold.
Now I'm Evan more pumped to use my greenstuff world gold.
The elven gold is the only one that looks gold and not bronze or brass.
One thing I would say about it is that it's better as a highlight for a darker gold with some red or green. It doesn't cover that well on its own in my experience.
tbh is it really that big of a surprise? retributor gold has essentially been the only gold of worth for GW and while it really does come out flaky it's also really easy to use. I use it as a warm undercoat sometimes to my better golds.
In
Goldiest gold paint
Blackest Black night
No model shall escape my paint brushes sight
Let those who worship washes might
Beware my power
and Squidmar's Brights!
I thought of Green Lanterns oath after watching all these paint challenges.
For Airbrush there's also Alclad, AK Xtreme Metal, and Mr Hobby Super Metallics. Any of those would beat the pants off any water based metallic.
I'd say Pro Acrylic won then as mixing the powder can have a lot of mixed results for people. Especially if they have never worked with paint in a powder before.
With pro Acrylic you get the gold right out of the pot and it looks good without as much user errors.
Your test is basically reflecting my own opinion and tests. I tried many gold because I wasn't happy with many gold once I applied them with brush.
GSW Pure Gold is by far my favorite, followed by Citadel Retributor and, close enough, Scale 75.
The GSW Pure Gold is a delight when it comes to paint trims and details on a miniature with a brush. You don't have to make multiple passes. One stroke is often enough to have excellent coverage.
because i used to paint cryx. i have to say the P3 paint is my favorite
dude.... i have never painted a mini, never played warhammer.... but the past few days, ive been obsessed with your channel and your painting.... you definitely got a new subscriber.
Cheers mate, and welcome to the hobby! Its a lot of fun :D
Higher silver content in a gold/silver alloy actually does tint towards greenish IRL.
I really enjoyed this thank you. I like this genre of vid where you look at the range of paint, I've seen the mirror & black ones too. Defo please do some more similar ones these are great.
That's the best Vincey V cameo since...well, ever. This should be a GIF for every rumour engine...
Those are some nice looking minis, gotta say.
With an airbrush I don't know, with a brush, ak old gold covers very well and it is a different tone
Very informative. I’ve been loving the ProAcryl golds for some time now and good to see it rank highly. It would have been nice to see how the same paints brush onto miniatures too. Strokes on black paper look very different to on figures as a whole.
I used to get good results with Alclad 2
Especially on a glossy black undercoat
Was just scrolling down the comments if someone had mentioned Alclad yet. Their mirror finish variant metallics look positively insane when airbrushed on a properly prepared gloss black surface. They might not be that ideal for (gaming) miniature painting though, reportedly not being the most durable of paints and any protective clear coatings diminishing the effect.