It's confusing because I've always been taught to learn slowly. If you learn at full speed, your mistakes will be harder to undo because they become muscle memory. Mistakes become part of muscle memory. If you learn slow and build up, you can catch and correct mistakes before you get up to full speed. How do you get down the correct notes and movements without first playing slowly? I would think you'd have a lot of mistakes if you went right to full speed. But I see both sides of the argument. Good video. I know I've done both - learning slow, building up practice speed to full speed and learning slow but practicing at full speed. I'd like to avoid having to undo mistakes once they are part of muscle memory. Thanks.
If your alternate picking is good, there is no reason for not to go full speed. And if it's not then work on that in isolation. I built up my speed with some shred licks from an app. And I was 48 years old at the time.
That's not necessarily true. In the video I said that you have to be cognizant of what you are doing. Once you have it down to where you know what the picking strokes are, how to start and end, then move to full speed. It is at that speed you will correct your mistakes...and that it why you have to know how to start and end. If you are ending differently fast than when you played it slow then you are doing it wrong, but practicing at a slow speed is nothing even close as far as tech then doing it at full speed. And why spend weeks working up to that speed when you can spend that time perfecting the lick at full speed.
I beg to differ. While you are correct that we swing wide at slower speeds, there is no reason why we cannot narrow that swing at a slower tempo, where it is much easier to control. Awareness that you bring is important, and now that we are aware, we can do exercises that narrow our swing at a slower tempo in order to train the picking hand, much the same way we train the fretting fingers to stay close to the fretboard in picking syncronisation lessons. Once the technique is comfortable, we can begin to raise the tempo. Then the part you want to learn will be much easier to take at tempo. If you try to practice at speed before the technique is ready, it is the equivalent of trying to lift the 1000 pound dumbell before you can lift the 10 pound dumbell and you will learn a lot of bad technique, possibly hurting yourself in the process.
I get what you are saying but you will engage different muscles while playing at speed then you will when playing it slow. Like I said in the video, every one has that wall from slow to fast and this is why. You simply cannot use the same tech as speed as opposed to slow. You can narrow your picking, but it will not engage the same muscles.
How is that? I clearly said learn the lick at slow speed to learn the mechanics of it. Learning it slow is completely different muscle memory then learning it fast. You engage different muscles at speed that you do use when playing it slow.
Apart from the complete impracticality of learning something at full speed, I like the concept of intentionally misleading gullible people. It's how our entire government is designed.
I hear you! I think he means learning at slow speed but practicing at full speed, rather than learning at slow speed and slowly building practice speed. My thing is, I don't want to play at full speed and have to worry about undoing mistakes that are a part of muscle memory.
That's how to do it. When I learn a new solo, I learn it slowly to know how it goes. Once I did that, full speed in small parts. After that the whole at full speed. And to build speed quickly is to practice short bursts.
@@Bognerman14 Yes. that is what I mean. And if you understand the lick at slow speed then there shouldn't by any technical mistakes at full speed. it will be just learning to play it proficiently.
Again, what works for you doesn't work for everyone. Teaching the exact opposite of what has worked for decades is nothing new. Your just another gimmick channel.
After playing for 25 years, I can tell you that you really don't know what you're talking about. This guy is absolutely spot on. Deal with it and practice. Even Troy Grady will tell you exactly the same thing as this guy. Whether you like it or not, he's right. It's the difference between walking and running. They're two different motions.
@@Sheild_against_the_wicked556yes! Those who say something else can't play fast. I was working on "Technical difficulties" for a very long time, but almost never practiced it slowly. It's just impossible to do the string skipping main riff with wide movements.
See Guthrie Govan's lesson on improving your picking technique for better, safer development.
This advice is a recipe for shoulder and elbow injury.
Exactly how is that? Playing fast will give you an injury?
Maybe he's talking about finger fatigue..try playing the solo of Rock bottom of UFO you will know what he is talking about🤣👍
It's confusing because I've always been taught to learn slowly. If you learn at full speed, your mistakes will be harder to undo because they become muscle memory. Mistakes become part of muscle memory. If you learn slow and build up, you can catch and correct mistakes before you get up to full speed.
How do you get down the correct notes and movements without first playing slowly?
I would think you'd have a lot of mistakes if you went right to full speed.
But I see both sides of the argument. Good video.
I know I've done both - learning slow, building up practice speed to full speed and learning slow but practicing at full speed. I'd like to avoid having to undo mistakes once they are part of muscle memory.
Thanks.
If your alternate picking is good, there is no reason for not to go full speed. And if it's not then work on that in isolation. I built up my speed with some shred licks from an app. And I was 48 years old at the time.
That's not necessarily true. In the video I said that you have to be cognizant of what you are doing. Once you have it down to where you know what the picking strokes are, how to start and end, then move to full speed. It is at that speed you will correct your mistakes...and that it why you have to know how to start and end. If you are ending differently fast than when you played it slow then you are doing it wrong, but practicing at a slow speed is nothing even close as far as tech then doing it at full speed. And why spend weeks working up to that speed when you can spend that time perfecting the lick at full speed.
I'm a perpetual lesson 1'r
I beg to differ. While you are correct that we swing wide at slower speeds, there is no reason why we cannot narrow that swing at a slower tempo, where it is much easier to control. Awareness that you bring is important, and now that we are aware, we can do exercises that narrow our swing at a slower tempo in order to train the picking hand, much the same way we train the fretting fingers to stay close to the fretboard in picking syncronisation lessons. Once the technique is comfortable, we can begin to raise the tempo. Then the part you want to learn will be much easier to take at tempo. If you try to practice at speed before the technique is ready, it is the equivalent of trying to lift the 1000 pound dumbell before you can lift the 10 pound dumbell and you will learn a lot of bad technique, possibly hurting yourself in the process.
I get what you are saying but you will engage different muscles while playing at speed then you will when playing it slow. Like I said in the video, every one has that wall from slow to fast and this is why. You simply cannot use the same tech as speed as opposed to slow. You can narrow your picking, but it will not engage the same muscles.
studies pertaining to muscle memory would basically contradict this completely
How is that? I clearly said learn the lick at slow speed to learn the mechanics of it. Learning it slow is completely different muscle memory then learning it fast. You engage different muscles at speed that you do use when playing it slow.
Apart from the complete impracticality of learning something at full speed, I like the concept of intentionally misleading gullible people. It's how our entire government is designed.
At no point did I say learn it at full speed. I said learn the lick, the mechanics of it and then practice it at full speed.
I hear you!
I think he means learning at slow speed but practicing at full speed, rather than learning at slow speed and slowly building practice speed.
My thing is, I don't want to play at full speed and have to worry about undoing mistakes that are a part of muscle memory.
That's how to do it. When I learn a new solo, I learn it slowly to know how it goes. Once I did that, full speed in small parts. After that the whole at full speed. And to build speed quickly is to practice short bursts.
@@Bognerman14 Yes. that is what I mean. And if you understand the lick at slow speed then there shouldn't by any technical mistakes at full speed. it will be just learning to play it proficiently.
Again, what works for you doesn't work for everyone. Teaching the exact opposite of what has worked for decades is nothing new.
Your just another gimmick channel.
No. this pretty much works the same for everybody. Sorry that you are as good as EVH and none of our channels meet your expectations.
After playing for 25 years, I can tell you that you really don't know what you're talking about. This guy is absolutely spot on. Deal with it and practice. Even Troy Grady will tell you exactly the same thing as this guy. Whether you like it or not, he's right. It's the difference between walking and running. They're two different motions.
@@Sheild_against_the_wicked556 Thanks for the support brother. I seems I struck a nerve with a lot of people.
@@Sheild_against_the_wicked556yes! Those who say something else can't play fast. I was working on "Technical difficulties" for a very long time, but almost never practiced it slowly. It's just impossible to do the string skipping main riff with wide movements.