Bernth.. why is Breakthrough Guitar method using you to sell their "freedom key" approach? I hope you at least got paid well for it.. but if not.. that's messed up them using your likeness. Just thought you should know if you're not aware already.. keep shredding brother 🤘
Going from open to closed hand made alle the difference for me. It literally solved a shit load of problems. I love it. I really fucking love it. I feel so much more in control, and on top of things. Note to people: Listen to those who actually know what they are talking about, and implement/change whatever the wiser one advices you to. You'll regret not doing so later on in life. I know what I'm talking about 😂😘.
Wow! This really works!! I changed my pick grip to this and is way more comfortable to play and it increased how fast I was able to play and I'm just a beginner
Yeah had that problem ,but try too put pick between your ring finger and pinky to keep your finger locked in this postion it takes some time to get used to it.@@tylerjones8145
@@tylerjones8145 i did this too for years and still fall back to it for metal rhythm stuff sometimes, but for leads the closed hand definitely helped a lot
Thanks for keeping the new students in mind. Ive watched a number of pick holding/technique videos (including your previous ones) and this one still helps explain a lot. Thanks again!
I do wanna ask would you recommend joining the Patreon to someone like me who kinda wants to improve electric guitar techniques (and relearn them if I've been doing them incorrectly)?
@@NijikaWannabe most definitely it’s filled with a ton of exercises and he’s a great and patient teacher from beginners like me to advanced players for $5 a month you can’t go wrong with
As a self taught player i had every bad habit imaginable and changed it all 1,5 years ago at 46, and i made more progress than the last 20 years. If i only knew earlier...
Putting the pick on the second knuckle, after almost 30 years lol, really got my brain and hands like "realllly?!? 😵💫" Even my index fingernail is SO PAPER THIN from my classic grip. And makes sense because the wound strings are basically filing my nail thin asf and even gets quite sensitive when I'm playing a lot. I really will benefit from making the new grip work! Now to train my muscles!
I'd say closed hand makes a massive difference. Feels like locking in, versus having no guard rails (open picking hand). MAB is the only one I can think of that has an 100% opposing style. I'd say even Hetfield, Kirk, Musaine, use it when it lets them do stuff they couldn't otherwise. Yes there's the open hand outwards picking that James does but look at a lot of pro and touring guitarists in hard fields and they spend at least some or most of the time hand closed. Can't understate how much better it feels and how much more consistent the results are, and the results are instant no joke. Great vid
Hi Bernth, thanks for all your free videos. They have made me a better guitarist! Have you watched Kiko Loureiro's videos ? He sometimes changes the position of the pick and strums with the “round” side. That's really interesting.
First. Thanks Bernth. Your content and attitude are splendid and super appreciated. Next PALM MUTING!! I have attempted the closed hand and cannot for the life of me palm mute at the same time. Frustrating because I can definitely see the benefits of what you propose. I suppose it could just be the way my hand bone connects to my wrist bone😂 but I'm loathe to give up without trying to figure it out. Thoughts sir?
I use Dunlop carbon fiber Jazz lll picks, and they're small, and if I put the pick where you put yours, my fingers rub the strings bc I'm too close to them. So it kinda depends on the pick size and hand size, and finger thikness of a player to figure out where to place the pick grip. Problem solving skills are paramount. But I have learned a lot from you, and I thank you for that.
The problem I have it seems if I place pick on second knuckle, I need to really clench my first knuckle, or the knuckle is sticking out too much where it forms an angle with the pick, so it looks like a V, as if I'm holding two picks at once: one made from meat, one from plastic. And the meat one touches the strings. This doesn't happen if I place pick on the first knuckle. So I guess it depends on finger/hand size and pick size. I use dunlop .88mm ones (green tortoise) but I really wanna try Jazz III now.
Bernth, I loved the video but wasn’t too keen on you flipping us off right before tapping with your right hand. 😂 just kidding! Thanks again for the great info!
so i do get the ergonimics and what and how you are playing is undoubtedly very impressive. what i wonder about is the tone, esp. when riffing. backwards picking has hugely more definition in it and much less pick/string noise as compared to "forward" angled picking. Ola is a master at that and his riffing tone is more or less unmatched. do you ever use backward picking in some situations or is it a no-go nowadays?
@@FlyingV344 wouldn’t it be easier if they weren’t though? Economy of motion you obviously can’t pick with your fingers pointing down and flopping around
This is interesting because I play open-hand most of the time and the way I play I use the edge of my pinky to mute the higher strings. If I'm playing on the high strings then my fingers just don't come in contact withe strings.
My problem with that grip is that it’s the most comfortable but when I use a jazz 3 pick like that the pick moves around especially when striking chords
There is a DIFFERENZ between 12:19 ( Pick to Thumb 30 degree angle ) and 12:57 ( almost 90 degree angle ) How about a Players point of view ( Camera top down ) so we can see the position of the palm, Thumb and wrist????
Anyone else struggling with a lot of unwanted thumb and pointer finger movement? I can isolate , and only use my wrist for strumming and slow alternate picking, but when I try to pick up the speed I always find my fingers moving uncontrollably.
I kind of like the way of holding the pick. Trying it out right now, but it feels like my closed hand the Fingers are getting sore running against the strings? Any suggestions?
IMPORTANT QUESTION 👋 When I play in the lower strings, my picking hand always dismounts the bridge, and when I try going back in the higher strings, my wrist gets stuck on the bridge... How do I fix that ?
I am trying to transition to a closed hand, but I used to anchor with one finger on the guitar body and now my closed hand feels "in the air". Should it anchor somewhere else like the forearm or I just need to get used to it?
It feels like this could be the key for me but whatever I do with my hand closed, my fingers mash into the strings. Palm muting feels almost impossible, anyone advise?
Is it just me.... but I am having difficulties palm muting with this pick grip. What's the secret here? :) Can you maybe do a quick episode on palm muting?
I always have issues with my other finger's knuckles touching the strings with a closed hand. Anyone got any tips on this? Even with a different pick angle. If I try to pull my hand back more I add tension which I think is also not good.
Messing around with this kind of grip I find picking "out" helps my knuckles not hit as much. So like, usually the pinky side of my palm is lower, and the thumb side is raised a bit. But trying to do this, its almost like I swap, where my thumb side is more down, and the pinky side is raised / flat, so the angle is flipped. Now the pick is going "out and my knuckles dont graze. kinda hard to explain over text but hope that helps. Not sure if its correct or anything just what I am experimenting with.
I instinctively open my hand when I'm palm muting and chugging down the strings, and close it when I am not. I think it is because my hand can't cover all strings when it is closed 🤔
I find this grip doesn't work for funk strumming, unfortunately. It's a pity, because my single-note speed and accuracy improved dramatically when my technique evolved to start doing this.
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Bernth.. why is Breakthrough Guitar method using you to sell their "freedom key" approach? I hope you at least got paid well for it.. but if not.. that's messed up them using your likeness. Just thought you should know if you're not aware already.. keep shredding brother 🤘
With this pick hold do you use your thumb knuckle to get pinch harmonics then?
I'm a Patreon subscriber now, but is the picking masterclass a separate purchase? Thanks.
@@Hambone3773 With the tip of the pick angled back as demonstrated, I use the side of my thumb forward from the tip of my pick.
Going from open to closed hand made alle the difference for me. It literally solved a shit load of problems. I love it. I really fucking love it. I feel so much more in control, and on top of things.
Note to people: Listen to those who actually know what they are talking about, and implement/change whatever the wiser one advices you to. You'll regret not doing so later on in life. I know what I'm talking about 😂😘.
Wow! This really works!! I changed my pick grip to this and is way more comfortable to play and it increased how fast I was able to play and I'm just a beginner
I agree, soon as I switch to a close hand everything became so effortless. Highly recommend it!
Do you have any experience anchoring your pinky while you play? Like I usually use my pinky as a pivot place underneath the bridge pickup
Yeah had that problem ,but try too put pick between your ring finger and pinky to keep your finger locked in this postion it takes some time to get used to it.@@tylerjones8145
@@tylerjones8145 Never tried it, did the floating fingers for about a year then I switched to the close hand and haven't looked back since
@@tylerjones8145 i did this too for years and still fall back to it for metal rhythm stuff sometimes, but for leads the closed hand definitely helped a lot
I feel the same way. It just kind of solved everything. Best advice ever.
Even as a bass player I find this useful - there are so many videos out there about finger style technique for bass, but so few for pick playing.
Totally agree 👍 👍👍
Thanks for keeping the new students in mind. Ive watched a number of pick holding/technique videos (including your previous ones) and this one still helps explain a lot. Thanks again!
I’m so glad I’m a Patreon member you’re the best teacher on RUclips for shredding and inspiration
I do wanna ask would you recommend joining the Patreon to someone like me who kinda wants to improve electric guitar techniques (and relearn them if I've been doing them incorrectly)?
@@NijikaWannabe most definitely it’s filled with a ton of exercises and he’s a great and patient teacher from beginners like me to advanced players for $5 a month you can’t go wrong with
@@chrisbassartist4344 thanks, I've been considering the $15 or $20 for a while, and kinda just wanted a better idea of what is in there.
Yes , wasn't even aware of this technique , thanks! I love the reduction in string noise
As a self taught player i had every bad habit imaginable and changed it all 1,5 years ago at 46, and i made more progress than the last 20 years. If i only knew earlier...
As usual, a great video, Bernth! Thanks a lot
Du hast mich ermutigt noch mal meine Technik zu ändern🤯🤘🏼
Dam, when you talked about the fingers weight, my mind just exploded.
Putting the pick on the second knuckle, after almost 30 years lol, really got my brain and hands like "realllly?!? 😵💫"
Even my index fingernail is SO PAPER THIN from my classic grip. And makes sense because the wound strings are basically filing my nail thin asf and even gets quite sensitive when I'm playing a lot. I really will benefit from making the new grip work! Now to train my muscles!
I'd say closed hand makes a massive difference. Feels like locking in, versus having no guard rails (open picking hand). MAB is the only one I can think of that has an 100% opposing style. I'd say even Hetfield, Kirk, Musaine, use it when it lets them do stuff they couldn't otherwise. Yes there's the open hand outwards picking that James does but look at a lot of pro and touring guitarists in hard fields and they spend at least some or most of the time hand closed. Can't understate how much better it feels and how much more consistent the results are, and the results are instant no joke. Great vid
Hi Bernth, thanks for all your free videos. They have made me a better guitarist!
Have you watched Kiko Loureiro's videos ? He sometimes changes the position of the pick and strums with the “round” side. That's really interesting.
Whoa…his hand tattoos disappeared.
haha
Whoa wtf
I think that part old recording
@@tamgeof1039no i think he removed his tattoo
@@64siskat96 no, I think the tattoo split off from *him* due to artistic differences.
This thing about open and closed wrist is true ,it takes some time to get used to it,but no more string noise !!
First. Thanks Bernth. Your content and attitude are splendid and super appreciated.
Next
PALM MUTING!! I have attempted the closed hand and cannot for the life of me palm mute at the same time. Frustrating because I can definitely see the benefits of what you propose. I suppose it could just be the way my hand bone connects to my wrist bone😂 but I'm loathe to give up without trying to figure it out. Thoughts sir?
same here! my pinky touches the strings when trying to palm mute with closed hand.
Hold the pick what Is most comfortable.
Good advice is to hold a second pick with your pinky and ring finger to keep that grip closed.
I'd recommend taking a little sharp object and scratching X's on the main side to help keep a grip easier.
I used to do that but started noticing flex in the areas that were scratched.
Now I use hockey tape or skateboard grip tape.
hmm... good point, gonna try that. thank you!
this video was much needed
He's already made this video multiple times...
Definitely been needing this 🤣
I use Dunlop carbon fiber Jazz lll picks, and they're small, and if I put the pick where you put yours, my fingers rub the strings bc I'm too close to them. So it kinda depends on the pick size and hand size, and finger thikness of a player to figure out where to place the pick grip. Problem solving skills are paramount. But I have learned a lot from you, and I thank you for that.
He uses jazz III as well usually
The problem I have it seems if I place pick on second knuckle, I need to really clench my first knuckle, or the knuckle is sticking out too much where it forms an angle with the pick, so it looks like a V, as if I'm holding two picks at once: one made from meat, one from plastic. And the meat one touches the strings. This doesn't happen if I place pick on the first knuckle.
So I guess it depends on finger/hand size and pick size.
I use dunlop .88mm ones (green tortoise) but I really wanna try Jazz III now.
Thanks! More teaching video pls
closed picking hand looks waaay cooler
I play with a closed hand aswell but my middle finger, ring finger and pinky don't feel relaxed when I'm playing. Anyone has a tip for this problem?
Same issue for me. With join pain when I stop playing. With open hand, no issue... i'm searching why
Bernth, I loved the video but wasn’t too keen on you flipping us off right before tapping with your right hand. 😂 just kidding! Thanks again for the great info!
so i do get the ergonimics and what and how you are playing is undoubtedly very impressive. what i wonder about is the tone, esp. when riffing. backwards picking has hugely more definition in it and much less pick/string noise as compared to "forward" angled picking. Ola is a master at that and his riffing tone is more or less unmatched.
do you ever use backward picking in some situations or is it a no-go nowadays?
7:54 Omy Bernth flipped me off
Im assuming closed hand is better for hybrid picking as well…I’m not quite there to try that yet but just an observation
when you hybrid pick your hand ís open
@@FlyingV344 wouldn’t it be easier if they weren’t though? Economy of motion you obviously can’t pick with your fingers pointing down and flopping around
By using Fender 355 shape. Hard not to hold properly, and hard to lose position.
Bernth, are you suing the small Jazz III or the XL version? It looks like you aren't using the very small ones. Thanks!
Of course, it's physics
This is interesting because I play open-hand most of the time and the way I play I use the edge of my pinky to mute the higher strings. If I'm playing on the high strings then my fingers just don't come in contact withe strings.
🤘🤘🤘
My problem with that grip is that it’s the most comfortable but when I use a jazz 3 pick like that the pick moves around especially when striking chords
As a fingerstyle player how should one hold his nails properly? 🤔
There is a DIFFERENZ between 12:19 ( Pick to Thumb 30 degree angle ) and 12:57 ( almost 90 degree angle ) How about a Players point of view ( Camera top down ) so we can see the position of the palm, Thumb and wrist????
Do you have a hybrid picking lesson? I really want to learn, but I want to learn correctly.
Can you tell me whether it is better for the tip of the pic to be angled towards the headstock or towards the bridge?
Also the less of the pick shows I miss or touch the strings more with my fingers and get unwanted pinch harmonics
6:05 so bending your thumb towards pick its ok? i heard somewhere its suboptimal, and now i am struggling trying to stop doing that
Anyone else struggling with a lot of unwanted thumb and pointer finger movement? I can isolate , and only use my wrist for strumming and slow alternate picking, but when I try to pick up the speed I always find my fingers moving uncontrollably.
I kind of like the way of holding the pick. Trying it out right now, but it feels like my closed hand the
Fingers are getting sore running against the strings? Any suggestions?
My palm muting is weird with this grip. My other knuckles seem to get in the way too…gotta work on it…
Same here, I'm not able to use this closed grip at all. My hand is also very tense, it is really uncomfortable.
IMPORTANT QUESTION 👋 When I play in the lower strings, my picking hand always dismounts the bridge, and when I try going back in the higher strings, my wrist gets stuck on the bridge... How do I fix that ?
I am trying to transition to a closed hand, but I used to anchor with one finger on the guitar body and now my closed hand feels "in the air". Should it anchor somewhere else like the forearm or I just need to get used to it?
I have problem just with palm muting :(( i like close hand but rythm guitar is really difficult with it any tips?
I have the hetfield technique. Any tips?
Does your wrist stay in contact with the bridge if you were to play on a Floyd rose?
Crazy question but which side of the pick are you striking the strings? Towards the neck or towards your palm?
You can hit pinch harmonics with your pick grip like that?
It feels like this could be the key for me but whatever I do with my hand closed, my fingers mash into the strings. Palm muting feels almost impossible, anyone advise?
Do you still use the jazz iii max grip carbon or that other white pick?
Habe you tried the petrucci jazz iii?
Max grip
That matte black Ibanez looks sick. Anyone know the model?
It’s a Ibanez Prestige AZ2402.
Is it just me.... but I am having difficulties palm muting with this pick grip. What's the secret here? :)
Can you maybe do a quick episode on palm muting?
Yes palm muting with closed hand video please!
Django Reinhard style...
Cant get used to it. Ive tried.
I always have issues with my other finger's knuckles touching the strings with a closed hand. Anyone got any tips on this? Even with a different pick angle. If I try to pull my hand back more I add tension which I think is also not good.
Messing around with this kind of grip I find picking "out" helps my knuckles not hit as much. So like, usually the pinky side of my palm is lower, and the thumb side is raised a bit. But trying to do this, its almost like I swap, where my thumb side is more down, and the pinky side is raised / flat, so the angle is flipped. Now the pick is going "out and my knuckles dont graze. kinda hard to explain over text but hope that helps. Not sure if its correct or anything just what I am experimenting with.
Lift you fingers
I instinctively open my hand when I'm palm muting and chugging down the strings, and close it when I am not. I think it is because my hand can't cover all strings when it is closed 🤔
If you use a thumbpick, this video doesn't help.
I find this grip doesn't work for funk strumming, unfortunately. It's a pity, because my single-note speed and accuracy improved dramatically when my technique evolved to start doing this.