2.2 CC specials.... wrap them, or just wrap on the outside the 2.2 dual stage. foam can make them donut, so dont worry about width or corners, the bigger contact patch of being soft soft foam make them flat on the ground. SOFT SOFT 1/4 inch squish stationary flat. GO lightweight. set of 2.2 rup on .75 wide beadlock on a rig, its a none issue with appropriate soft soft foam CONGRATS on 5k subs
Crawler Innovations definitely makes dual stage foams that fit those tires. I know that's not the normal operation of the canyon... just fyi... I have these tires with ci foams on a 1 inch wide Injora wheel and love them. Sift front medium rear.
@@SivartCustomRCs I struggled with it for a while, but I’ve improved a lot in the past few months. Keep working at it and watch videos. Learn the workflow tricks like components and user parameters.
I could tell before I opened the package that these foams weren’t going to be “the foams.” So I’m not doing that work for foams that are going to be used for half an hour. Instead, I’ll blame JConcepts for giving an oversized, rock-hard foam.
You got lots of options with the Stiff foams for Rockcrawler’s take it to the bandsaw make little notches drill holes. All kinds of options but rock bouncing might be a different story might be perfect
Squid'nserts and 3Brothers rc both have 143mm 2.2 inserts and Yzzr on Etsy has custom options. Those options are obviously very pricey and I know you're a fellow frugal so I'm hoping to see a new Canyon Custom insert debut. 🤓
Yeah, 70 bucks for inserts is not something I can get myself to do. Robokitty also has a bunch of inherent advantages that make fancy inserts almost superfluous-- big and long and low, she's way less prone to tipping over in any direction, even if the tires fold completely over themselves. So your hopes will all be certainly be met.
I totally forgot Robokitty exists since we've last seen her here. What a beautiful rig😍 Would it be possible in the next "State of the Canyon" episode to show us again all the inhabitants of the Canyon? Also, congratulations on the 5000 subscribers milestone!🥳
Maybe not the next one, but I can arrange something for the one after-- I've already got this month's "paycheck" set aside for a standalone mic, so I can still use the DJI gimbal and pull decent audio. I'm also waiting to order some better monitoring stuff for video production. The fleet has definitely grown since the last time I went through the rigs in December, and a fair number of them are kind of (a lot) different than they were then.
I'm about 2min in, what would you thoughts be on trimming the exterior of the foams and using hairbuns making them an even cheaper dual stage foam? Wow, that's a long sentence...
I know the idea of remounting these tires with these foams isn't fun, but I wonder if a star pattern cut on the outside diameter would improve the compliance while maintaining some of that sidewall support. Maybe like a 45 degree chamfer on the inner diameter just to make mounting easier. I was thinking fresh razor / xacto blade or hot wire foam cutter but man, I wonder if an electric carving knife would do the trick. Being a bit of an admitted knife snob, I don't have one, but I have seen them make short work of turkeys. Maybe a weekly dumb episode is in there somewhere if you have one or could borrow one? Just don't cut or burn yourself testing 😆
The proline's hyrax lp g8. had the same exact issue. they shipped this smaller tire with inserts from the larger. could not get the beadlocks on. it ballooned the tire. absolute nightmare. i however, gave up as i couldn't find the right size inserts since its a unique size.
Might need a little trimming, but I think the inserts out of 2.2 Canyon Trails would fit the LP Hyrax, as they're also 5.3" tall. The foams might be a little wide, as the CTs are some fatty bois. But they are far and away the best "manufacturer provided" foams I've seen/tested/used. Dual-stage, no less.
The Rovers come with some absolute PILLOWS from HPI/HB. In both the 1.9 and the 2.2, I'm just running the included foams-- because they're on Lil' Fella and Ms. Direction respectively, two of the lightest members of the fleet.
Why don’t you chamfer the inside of the foam? Like all single stage foams. They are shipped with the tires just to keep the shape, not intended to actually use. Lol.
If someone can show me a method to get a decent, consistent, repeatable edge I'll go back to trimming foams. It always looks like a hackjob, and I hate it. I think about 50% of tires can claim that the inserts are "for shipping purposes." Or at least they should, as it would explain why they're so bad. But some tires do just fine on the included foams.
I agree, but if you have to use the stock foam then you do what you need to. I just throw them away, i was keeping them and realized that I never going to use them. I start with an amazon or proline dual stage, and use that as my baseline. The less variables the better. I know the foams,so lets test the tires. I can appreciate you single stage foam analysis, but it just another factor that i cant sit and mind deal. I effing mind deal everything.
I have been looking through some of old videos looking for what servos do you use for shifting and dig. I have tried a few different ones and they still get hot on 6 volt. I am lookking for full size 6 volt. I am running 3s.
A dig/shift servo will only get hot if the endpoints aren't set correctly. I use uber-cheap JX 4409MGs for most everybody (full size, half-height.). $15 bucks.
I am so glad to hear that your scale doesn't have 100. It should never be possible to hit that final mark, as the moment it is hit, there can be no further possible room for improvement. Perfection has been hit, everything else may as well give up now...
Yep, no such thing as a 10. A tire can pull a 10 on a single obstacle/task, but I can't foresee a tire pulling 10s at . Maximum forward drive usually equals poopy sidehilling, so we'll always have that to keep our head out of the clouds.
Those were sadly 1.9, and have been sent out to a gentleman who happened to be running the tires that the inserts were made for. So at least they've gone to a good home.
Foams to fit the 2.2 Tusk? I haven't found anything specifically listed for them outside of the Squidn'serts at $70 a set, which is a bonafide non-starter.
what shock oil weight are you running? i want to get my ryft to do that with out going to desert lizards for right now if i can. and do you have two speed? an what motor are you running?
Oil: 40wt, in stock Ryft kit shocks fitted with Traxxas Long Arm springs (white stripe front, orange stripe rear) Definitely no 2-speed, I built a gearbox with 4:1 internal reduction, and am running a 72T 32P spur from an RC10GT, so the FDR is 74:1. The motor is a 9imod 3542 2250kv outrunner paired to a Rhino V80 ESC.
Maybe you could do a comparison between 2.2 tusks and 2.2 ruptures? I guess it can be interesting to see which one is the best BIG tire
2.2 CC specials.... wrap them, or just wrap on the outside the 2.2 dual stage. foam can make them donut, so dont worry about width or corners, the bigger contact patch of being soft soft foam make them flat on the ground. SOFT SOFT 1/4 inch squish stationary flat. GO lightweight. set of 2.2 rup on .75 wide beadlock on a rig, its a none issue with appropriate soft soft foam CONGRATS on 5k subs
Man the sound of your wind chimes in the background is soooo nice!
Hey awesome seeing all you guys here again an loving this video too🎉🎉❤
aye i just wanna say thank you for making all the content you make. youre awesome and i look forward to all the videos i can watch
Crawler Innovations definitely makes dual stage foams that fit those tires. I know that's not the normal operation of the canyon... just fyi... I have these tires with ci foams on a 1 inch wide Injora wheel and love them. Sift front medium rear.
I definitely will put these next on my list after my 2.2 Deepwoods have worn out. Thanks for the review.
Keep the foams from the Deepwoods. Unless your rig weighs 30lbs, then these might work.
I’ve been wanting to make 2.2 tpu inserts, but I keep forgetting to get them from my friend.
I've been trying to do the same. Sadly, my skills in Fusion360 isn't up to par and been slowly trying to figure it out.
@@SivartCustomRCs I struggled with it for a while, but I’ve improved a lot in the past few months. Keep working at it and watch videos. Learn the workflow tricks like components and user parameters.
Definitely a CC fabricobbled insert and paint the rim to match Robokitty and your set, good to see her again and as always thanks.
7:30 - what about chamfering the inner hole to keep the foam from de-beading the wheel?
I could tell before I opened the package that these foams weren’t going to be “the foams.” So I’m not doing that work for foams that are going to be used for half an hour. Instead, I’ll blame JConcepts for giving an oversized, rock-hard foam.
Those are some massive foams, need to do some triming for sure. great video..I love the JComcpt Green Landmines, have not tried the Tusks yet..
You got lots of options with the Stiff foams for Rockcrawler’s take it to the bandsaw make little notches drill holes. All kinds of options but rock bouncing might be a different story might be perfect
Squid'nserts and 3Brothers rc both have 143mm 2.2 inserts and Yzzr on Etsy has custom options. Those options are obviously very pricey and I know you're a fellow frugal so I'm hoping to see a new Canyon Custom insert debut. 🤓
Yeah, 70 bucks for inserts is not something I can get myself to do. Robokitty also has a bunch of inherent advantages that make fancy inserts almost superfluous-- big and long and low, she's way less prone to tipping over in any direction, even if the tires fold completely over themselves. So your hopes will all be certainly be met.
I totally forgot Robokitty exists since we've last seen her here. What a beautiful rig😍
Would it be possible in the next "State of the Canyon" episode to show us again all the inhabitants of the Canyon?
Also, congratulations on the 5000 subscribers milestone!🥳
Maybe not the next one, but I can arrange something for the one after-- I've already got this month's "paycheck" set aside for a standalone mic, so I can still use the DJI gimbal and pull decent audio. I'm also waiting to order some better monitoring stuff for video production. The fleet has definitely grown since the last time I went through the rigs in December, and a fair number of them are kind of (a lot) different than they were then.
@@CrawlerCanyon oh boy, I'm looking forward for that 😁
Looks like the foams should have got some holes poked through their sides.
I'm about 2min in, what would you thoughts be on trimming the exterior of the foams and using hairbuns making them an even cheaper dual stage foam? Wow, that's a long sentence...
I know the idea of remounting these tires with these foams isn't fun, but I wonder if a star pattern cut on the outside diameter would improve the compliance while maintaining some of that sidewall support. Maybe like a 45 degree chamfer on the inner diameter just to make mounting easier. I was thinking fresh razor / xacto blade or hot wire foam cutter but man, I wonder if an electric carving knife would do the trick. Being a bit of an admitted knife snob, I don't have one, but I have seen them make short work of turkeys. Maybe a weekly dumb episode is in there somewhere if you have one or could borrow one? Just don't cut or burn yourself testing 😆
The proline's hyrax lp g8. had the same exact issue. they shipped this smaller tire with inserts from the larger. could not get the beadlocks on. it ballooned the tire. absolute nightmare. i however, gave up as i couldn't find the right size inserts since its a unique size.
Might need a little trimming, but I think the inserts out of 2.2 Canyon Trails would fit the LP Hyrax, as they're also 5.3" tall. The foams might be a little wide, as the CTs are some fatty bois. But they are far and away the best "manufacturer provided" foams I've seen/tested/used. Dual-stage, no less.
I ❤ these wheels!
Where did you get them?
Are these like the Canyon Trails just blown up or do they have more lugs then the 1.9 Tusk?
What would you say, 4.75 tusk or some S1 canyon trails? They both look like amazing tires
Have you done a vid on those black and white 2.2 dual stages? What are you running in the 2.2 rovers?
The Rovers come with some absolute PILLOWS from HPI/HB. In both the 1.9 and the 2.2, I'm just running the included foams-- because they're on Lil' Fella and Ms. Direction respectively, two of the lightest members of the fleet.
Why don’t you chamfer the inside of the foam? Like all single stage foams. They are shipped with the tires just to keep the shape, not intended to actually use. Lol.
If someone can show me a method to get a decent, consistent, repeatable edge I'll go back to trimming foams. It always looks like a hackjob, and I hate it.
I think about 50% of tires can claim that the inserts are "for shipping purposes." Or at least they should, as it would explain why they're so bad. But some tires do just fine on the included foams.
I agree, but if you have to use the stock foam then you do what you need to. I just throw them away, i was keeping them and realized that I never going to use them. I start with an amazon or proline dual stage, and use that as my baseline. The less variables the better. I know the foams,so lets test the tires. I can appreciate you single stage foam analysis, but it just another factor that i cant sit and mind deal. I effing mind deal everything.
I have been looking through some of old videos looking for what servos do you use for shifting and dig. I have tried a few different ones and they still get hot on 6 volt. I am lookking for full size 6 volt. I am running 3s.
A dig/shift servo will only get hot if the endpoints aren't set correctly. I use uber-cheap JX 4409MGs for most everybody (full size, half-height.). $15 bucks.
I've missed Robokitty.
Bigger, 5 inch, hair buns ?
3 or 4 layers of veggie foam ?
I am so glad to hear that your scale doesn't have 100. It should never be possible to hit that final mark, as the moment it is hit, there can be no further possible room for improvement. Perfection has been hit, everything else may as well give up now...
Yep, no such thing as a 10. A tire can pull a 10 on a single obstacle/task, but I can't foresee a tire pulling 10s at . Maximum forward drive usually equals poopy sidehilling, so we'll always have that to keep our head out of the clouds.
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This is one of the best parts of my day😁🤗🙃😄👍
drill out the foams or cut out some ribs.
Are you originally from the south? You sounded awfully southern when you were talking about the ant biting your toe.
Do you still have the giant 3d printed inserts that someone had previously sent you? Or are those also too small?
Those were sadly 1.9, and have been sent out to a gentleman who happened to be running the tires that the inserts were made for. So at least they've gone to a good home.
@@CrawlerCanyon Maybe the stock ryft tire foams would work the 2.2 tusk is very similar in size, although those foams might be too soft.
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I can’t for the life of me find these foams
Foams to fit the 2.2 Tusk? I haven't found anything specifically listed for them outside of the Squidn'serts at $70 a set, which is a bonafide non-starter.
what shock oil weight are you running? i want to get my ryft to do that with out going to desert lizards for right now if i can. and do you have two speed? an what motor are you running?
Oil: 40wt, in stock Ryft kit shocks fitted with Traxxas Long Arm springs (white stripe front, orange stripe rear)
Definitely no 2-speed, I built a gearbox with 4:1 internal reduction, and am running a 72T 32P spur from an RC10GT, so the FDR is 74:1.
The motor is a 9imod 3542 2250kv outrunner paired to a Rhino V80 ESC.