For those contemplating on a Segway, NIU, or Apollo scooter…. I currently have the new Ninebot Max, Apollo Go, and NIU K3 Max. The Segway is heavy, the rear shock makes a lot of noise no matter how I tune it, and it has a big footprint. It also has bad lighting at night. The problem I’m having is the braking on the Apollo, it is scary to only have a back brake that locks up the wheel if squeezed too hard. It doesn’t feel like it’s stopping the scooter. You have to rely on the regen braking to really stop the scooter. My wife has the NIU K3 Max with dual disk brakes and that things stops on a dime. The Segway also stops well, as it has two brake wires stopping front and rear wheels. However, the Apollo is fast, it feels solid, and it is my choice over the others. I’m curious about the NIU 300x, but it doesn’t have rear shocks, has a twist throttle and doesn’t go as fast. I think Apollo is the way to go! Hope this helps!
Although ESG video reviews are comprehensive I wish you guys could try the Bus or Subway test for the portable scooters to see how comfortable or doable getting in a bus with it is. Another important aspect that needs to be covered is ground clearance (great in the Go btw) with real world test on curbs, speed bumps, etc.
Your feedback is always appreciated. We'll try to get more portability stuff worked in. The apartment-shot in this one didn't come out quite as clear as I wanted it to, but you can sort of get the idea of the width difference. I'm hoping website team can get the old ESG search-tool back up on the site soon. I want people to have direct access to all the numbers we measure. I measure all of the dimensions including ground clearance to the lowest part of the scooter (usually the mount for the kickstand). -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide Nice review! Do you think Apollo Go is a great choice for a fast ride in Manhattan daily? I had a scooter before(2021) for 1 month USCOOTERS, it was fast and very light but not smooth ride, and I started having break issues, the customer support was not good and I just had the opportunity to return the scooter with the help from a scooter forum from scooter reviewer like yours ( maybe you helped me? I don’t remember 😆). I have been using Citibike to ride, that’s a great free good exercise, but the scooter was fun and I’m missing it, and I enjoy to ride fast, up to 20 mph 😛
I hope you do a long term review of this magnificent scooter after 6 months of owning it as you just did with the GoTrax GX1/GX2! I would appreciate it if you include Ramier's footage in that video enjoying the "mini Pro" and personally giving his Big Dawg approval!
This is a great scooter for anyone who doesn’t have an elevator or 1st floor home and wants a zippy ride. 49lbs will feel lighter because the scooter is thoughtfully made to be compact when folded.
Definitely. It's amazing the difference between a 49lb scooter and a 70lb scooter when it comes to stairs. It's doable with 70lbs, but there is a lot of grunting involved, for me anyway. -Paul
Paul, great review. I was comparing the Apollo Go to the Emove Cruiser S and was waiting for your review. I want something compact for short commutes (7 miles). I have the NAMI Burn E2, so I don't need a long-distance scooter. The warranty gives the Apollo Go the edge for me.
So glad I could help! You have great taste in scooters. The Cruiser S is a great scooter too, but for 7 miles of commuting the Go feels like the right choice. It's lighter and much easier to carry when you need to. Plus I just really like the ride feel of the Go. It feels very 2024 if not 2025! -Paul
Seriously dude, the Niu Kqi Air is your best bet. Fast, light (like really light), great range, amazing warranty, and cheaper than the options you are considering. I would get one but have the Kqi2 pro (thanks to Paul's work) and so my next scoot will require more range and plush suspension. Good luck!
Spend at least 10-20% of your scooter's value on locks! Get the Litelok X1 for the Apollo Go! I hate to have that thing stolen and I couldn't even afford one yet!
Hey great review! Thanks! I know nothing about scooters but wanted something for my teen. Looked at a bunch of “best of” lists, and was looking at weight, range, portability, build quality, hill climbing performance, suspension - kind of came up with a bit of “n of 1” conclusion. Your review sealed the deal for me.
Despite all its niceties, the main issue with this scooter is the lack of overall versatility due to limited range. With reviewers seeing 14 - 19 miles max, with at least one reviewer cruising at 20mph until it would no longer sustain, which is fairly unimpressive. Apollo used 30 x 21700 cells in 10 series, 3 parallel. Had they simply gone with 40 cells in 10 Series 4 Parallel, it would have transformed this scooter into one of the most versatile units in scooter history while not giving up any of it's other fantastic attributes. Adding 10 cells would add less than 2lbs to this unit, even factoring in a slightly deeper battery tub. I wish they'd make a "max" version with 40 cells and 2-3" wider handlebars so that there was room to add an accessory or two... lights, bell, etc. I love everything else about the this scooter but the range is an issue compared to its competitors from Niu, Segway, VMAX and others.
For sure! The Go is smoooooth. Everything it does is smooth. The only thing you may miss are the massive brakes on your KQi3 Max. It's a matter of taste though. For normal riding around, having the dedicated regen on the Go is really nice. But if you like being able to nearly lock both brakes at the same time, that's a place the KQi3 Max has the edge. -Paul
@@Why-I-Oughta yeah the 300X is one I’m looking at as well. It seems a tiny bit slower and there’s only front suspension, but it seems a little wider (the handlebar, deck, and tires) than the Apollo Go and I imagine it’ll feel a bit more stable. So I’m torn between the two.
@dgmithril The Niu 300s might be the best bet for longer riding and comfort because of the things you mentioned as well as having larger wheels. The portability of the Go and the rear suspension is an advantage. I guess the Go might suit you more if you have that _need for speed._ 🏎🍃
Paul thank you for always giving a excellent video. Always super thorough and I feel knowledgeable. I’m pretty sure this is gonna be the scooter. I go with Evan been watching your videos for over a year and a half thank you for your powerful information.
Awesome review! I’m so excited to get my GO. One quick note, I’m not sure why you said the Eve cells used are a step behind Samsung. They are the same specifications and EVE is one of the best brands for batteries reliability and QC, just not recognizable yet in the US. Also they rated at over 1000 cycles according to the EVE spec sheet and are the same cells used in many EVs.
Good to know. We'll read up more about them and adjust their standing in the reliability ratings spreadsheet accordingly. If we were to rate them the same as Samsung, it would pull the Go from a 9.3 to a 9.5 on our reliability score sheet, which would be the highest score we've recorded yet. I appreciate the feedback. -Paul
Apollo is pretty good with parts availability. For example, the Go hasn't started shipping yet, but they have 35 parts and accessories available on their site for the Go already. -Paul
I bought an Inmotion Climber on Black Friday and am curious for both a review and comparison to the Apollo Go. Yes you lose the suspension, but I’d like to see how the power and climbing measure up. Plus the Hillclimber is at an affordable price point, commonly found for $899
I'm curious myself. At the lowest price point, we have the Hover-1 Journey Max dual motor at $599, then in the middle, the Climber for $899 and the Apollo Go at the higher end at $1,149 (with code riderguide). It would be fun to do a middle-weight dual motor comparison at some point. -Paul
Just bought the Apollo Go right now the moment the Fourth of July sales came up before the tarrif hits! Gotta love being in Murica! So excited now but fingers crossed whether Apollo sends me a perfect thriller or a defective one...
Yes, since they are located on either side, you need to lift to signal right. Good point. Typically I’m slowing down for a corner as I signal anyway though. It’s easy to tell one button from the other because they are so far apart, but you do have to lift your thumb off the throttle. -Paul
You should try this again after the new ninebot max G2 firmware update that enables n2o acceleration mode. I’m pretty sure the 0-20mph is closer to the Apollo now….it caught me by surprise when i used it the first time lol. Now i squat a little when i use n2o lol.
If I could wave my magic wand over the Apollo Go, I'd turn it into a 720Wh battery, give it 3" wider bars for performance riding and additional accessory room, dual disc brakes like the NIU KQi3 Max, and rubberized turn signal caps. Finally if it had a true 27-28mph speed, I'd be in heaven. Call it the "GT" the "Max" or something similarly straightforward. I would sell one of my larger dual motor rides to have two Apollo Go "GT's" in the garage because it would be so perfect! Part of me still wants to pull the trigger on this scooter due to its elegant form and build quality but can't. It seems to me that Apollo missed a real chance to make this the ultimate 50lb, dual motor, pocket rocket. In its current 540wh battery configuration, you can only ride it spiritedly for 16-19 miles. That gives me a one direction reach of about 8mi if I want to return to my starting point and still have a couple miles of reserve range, in case I hit a hill or take a wrong turn. Had they given it a 720Wh battery it would have absolutely transformed this ride into an icon of versatility. This formula would have provided about 24mi worth of "play time" while throttling back to 13-14mph would afford about 40 miles of cruise range. It would have been able to adapt to virtually any mission from hot rodding, to cruising, to commuting. Someone could argue it does that now but it's far too handcuffed for myself and a lot of other enthusiasts who put their money elsewhere after seeing the Go's range shortcoming.
No, I wouldn't want wider handlebars on an Apollo Go and the more maintenance intensive disc brakes of the Niu scooter! Reliability and portability is the Apollo Go's primary purpose and is meant for commuting in conjunction with public transit, explaining its under 50 pounds weight and compactness! Wider handlebars from my experience, are a hassle to bring through subway turnstiles and that is with my Segway Ninebot F2 Pro with 22-inch wide handlebars alone! Its disc brakes are also a hassle with the fact that I had to get it adjusted every 400 miles and already had a brake pad replaced after just 1000 miles! I had a Ninebot Max G30LP and its much narrower handlebars (much narrower than the Go's) are a breeze to pass through turnstiles and its drum brakes are still going strong after 1500 miles of riding without maintenance but I had to upgrade to a better speed and battery capacity while not drastically increasing weight and hindering portability. If you want any of your desired traits, you are better off with the Apollo City Pro or a dual motor version of the Apollo Air with the wider handlebars but you may have to wait till 2025 to get the stem light version of these. Also, the VMAX VX2 Pro GT should suit your needs if you want something lightweight as it is a Ninebot Max G30P on steroids but has a ton of power and speed although I would want it to have at least a front suspension. The Apollo Go is built for one thing and one thing only: short to mid range commuter with ease of portability and reliability unlike any other scooters and to extend its range: it is extremely friendly and maneuverable around large crowds in public transit.
Relevant comment! I have exceeded 4000 km with my Zero 8 and it brakes extremely well so far! It's not afraid of wet roads or rain... I have a Another scooter with disc brakes, it squeaks a lot when the road is wet, quite simply because the dust in small grains of sand gets between the disc and brake pads
Hello! I have been looking at your videos a bit now. Really love what you’re doing. I wonder if I could get some help. I live in Sweden and try to find a good scooter to use but the most of them you show cost very much to sent to Sweden. So I wonder if you know any good scooters that’s available to buy and ship to Sweden without to much of a delivery fee ?
That's a great question! In fact, that's a great subject: scooter distribution world-wide. What's available where! Let me see what I can find out. (I'm not even sure where to start looking so don't let me get your hopes up too high!). -Paul
Thanks for the feedback. We agree. I've linked to the sections of the review that have those numbers on screen. We measure all of the dimensions for the scooters by hand and try to include them in every video. I've linked to the outer dimensions first, and the deck dimensions and ground clearance below that. :-) -Paul ruclips.net/video/T-e1Vw9BkHU/видео.htmlsi=CuT8ZKAMNM6NoMPv&t=637 ruclips.net/video/T-e1Vw9BkHU/видео.htmlsi=2pogtYF9aKWg2vG3&t=216
Would you say the Go is easier to store on a subway train then the Apollo City? I have the City and is a bit to large and cumbersome to take on the train during peak hours.
Yes, that's definitely one of its advantages. I really like the narrower bars. I also like that the body and it's smoother lines make it feel like it's less likely to snag random objects when you carry it. It's hard to say for sure without seeing how packed the subway is where you are though. -Paul
Far easier! 20 in. wide handlebars vs 26 in. wide handlebars is a mammoth of a difference between the Go and the City or Air! Even with my lightweight, 41 pound Segway Ninebot F2 Pro with 22.5 inch-wide handlebars, it was already a significant hassle just to maneuver it around the fare turnstiles of the NYC subway system due to the handlebars being a bit too wide that I literally have to angle and lift the front of the scooter just to go through! It would be nearly impossible to do that with the Apollo City or Air with their whopping 26 inch-wide handlebars even when the latter is meant to be relatively portable and lighter than the Go!
I am struggling with the same choice. I don't know if 9" tires and narrow handle bars are better than 10" tires and wider handle bars. I wish the City was a bit lighter. What did you end up getting?
This is the first telescopic fork Apollo has done in a while. They had a scooter a long time ago that you might not recognize, which used a spring in the middle. It wasn't as good as this one though. -Paul
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Great review and it looks like an outstanding scooter. I wish they had gone with 10" tires instead of 9". I understand their thinking on the matter, but I think it was a poor choice. Everything else looks great. A price of $700-$800 is realistic for something like this.
10' won't make a world of difference over 9' in terms of performance and safety. The dual suspension is what does the trick in dampening rough road conditions. Besides, that would defeat this scooter's purpose for portability and ease of storage as a larger frame is needed to accomodate 10' tires.
The NIU KQi 300X has 10.5” tires, larger battery yet it weight and measure about the same. Apollo could have used a carbon fiber stem and handle to compensate for the added weight, I guess. Could also be that they wanted to keep a distance from the City Pro, marketing wise?
@@alexp9379 But the Niu Kqi 300X takes up much more space with wider body and handlebars and has more maintenance-intensive disc brakes compared to Apollo Go's drum and regen brakes. The latter is better suited for multi-modal commuting while the former is great if one does not need the Apollo City's speed, power and excess weight yet still needs range.
It's hard to know what to compare to the Go in terms of what you get. We literally don't have anything in our database under $2,000 that has dual motors, full suspension and weighs less than 50lbs. -Paul
I have a Apollo Phantom V1 converted to V3 I'm thinking about this scooter I really like the break throttle it feels like a magic carpet ride. Do you think having a 25mph top speed would be boring?
Hmmm. Normally, I’d say “no”, but coming from a Phantom, you’re used to a certain amount of adrenaline when you hit the throttle. The Go isn’t at all an adrenaline machine. It’s so smooth you don’t really feel the speed. 25 mph is enough for me most of the time, but you may really miss the zoom-factor coming from the Phantom. The City might be happy middle ground for you. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide thanks 👍, somehow missed it lol. I currently have a Ninebot Max G30p with an sharkset front suspension. Currently considering an Apollo Go as I need something that is in the same category as my current daily eg. portability (weight and length of bars/total). Leaning towards the Go at the moment as I would like something that is a little faster and is better at hill climbing. At least from what I can tell the Go seems to check all those boxes. Would have my Ninebot as a reserve/backup but it looks like the Apollo Go would be a nice QoL improvement.
We would go for the GO! Nice scooter in small package , dual motors , good suspension. Solid overall . You can check the link in description for the current sale price and use code RIDERGUIDE for $50 off
My Ninebot Max G30 broke down after 3 years of commuting. I’ve been wondering if I should go with the Ninebot Max G2 or the Apollo Go, decided the latter since I have to take a flight of stairs to get to my train station and front door. Still not sure if I made the right decision, since I did like my original Max and its range (although I rarely needed it). Wondering if other people were on the same boat
I currently have both. The Segway is heavy, the rear shock makes a lot of noise no matter how I tune it, and it has a big footprint. It also has bad lighting at night. The problem I’m having is the braking on the Apollo, it is scary to only have a back brake that locks up the wheel if squeezed too hard. It doesn’t feel like it’s stopping the scooter. You have to rely on the regen braking to really stop the scooter. My wife has the NIU K3 Max with dual disk brakes and that things stops on a dime. The Segway also stops well, as it has two brake wires stopping front and rear wheels. However, the Apollo is fast, it feels solid, and it is my choice over the others. I’m curious about the NIU 300x, but it doesn’t have rear shocks, has a twist throttle and doesn’t go as fast. I think Apollo is the way to go! Hope this helps!
Hey ya! Did your unit exhibit strange battery level behavior? Mine is a bit strange - after I charge it to 100% and start riding, it immediately drops to around 81%. Then it goes up and down between 90 or so and back to 81. Is that normal? Scooter is otherwise fantastic.
Thanks! I've had the worst luck haha. My Pro IoT doesn't work and this issue with the Go. Hopefully I can get these things resolved soon. @@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
This is a pre-production version of the final product. So performance should not change between this and final production. The difference is usually that they're still working out all of the standard assembly procedures when they do pre-production. -Paul
Thanks for the review! I'm excited to get mine! Is using a fast charger bad for scooters or does it not impact the battery health? also, are there any fast chargers you'd recommend?
That's a great question! The engineering rule of thumb is that you don't want to exceed 1C which is the current required to fully charge within one hour. That would be a ridiculous amount of current. Apollo offers a 4A- 5A fast charger on their site that could cut charge time down to roughly 3 hours. It doesn't currently say it's ok to use on the Go, but I expect they will update it. I'd reach out to them to confirm. I'll come back with a direct link to the charger. -Paul
Excellent review but why did not compare it to the NIU 300X? The Go seems to hit the sweet spot in many aspects except for the 9” tire size. No matter what Apollo tells you, this is physics, a larger tire like 10” would have been better and yet still compact. The latch seems like it can injure badly the rider in an accident since the magnet is not strong enough to keep it in place. Other than that is almost perfect but a bit pricy. I like the brand Apollo attention to detail.
Thank you so much! And great question. We haven't fully tested the 300X yet. Mitchell only had a chance to ride it a little bit in Las Vegas, so we can't say for sure how fast and how far the 300X goes. We'll get one soon though and then can add it to the comparison list. The magnet on the latch is very strong, so it definitely won't pop out while riding. In fact the strength of the magnet is what broke the glue on ours. But they'll use more glue on the magnets of the production scooters. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide But is the magnet that strong that can keep the larch in place in a collision at 20mph speed?! I find that hard to believe, only a crash test could confirm it for sure.
Yes, I made it one of the comparison scooters, and put it on the leaderboard throughout the video because I feel like these are two scooters people will be comparing, even though their specs are fairly different. The feel of the Apollo Go is very different from the Cruiser, though I really like both. -Paul
Well it looks cool I guess. But lets be hones. The lights are just a gimmick and not really there for the cardrivers to see. I mainly speak of the backlights. I would never ever recognice the turning signals as turning signals from the back when I would be driving in a car.
Hello everyone! I just got my Go, but does anybody know why it goes up to 12 mph? I’ve already register through the app, set the top speed up to 37 mph (even though it does not go that fast), but it only allows me to go up to 12 mph. Could anybody help me on this, please? Thanks!!
Really struggling to decide between the Apollo 2024 Go and 2024 City. My heart wants the City, but the Go is just SO much cheaper and I'm not sure the City does enough to make up for that... I don't really care that much about top speed, but I do care about ride quality, hill climbing ability (I'm about 200lbs and live downhill from downtown Montreal), and range. Thoughts anyone?
That's a really good question. I'll ask Apollo. One of our Segway scooters, I think it's the E2, seems to have a battery that's in the 20's! I had to look a the charger three times to convince myself it was real. They don't put it on the spec sheet. The E2 doesn't seem to suffer from it. -Paul
Ok, I checked in with Apollo, and the answer makes a lot of sense. Dual motors draw a lot of current. In order to support that sort of current draw without too much voltage sag from a 540Wh battery, they needed to arrange the pack with more cells in parallel, which means you can push more amps, but with fewer cells stacked in series you end up with a lower nominal voltage. -Paul
I love the part criticizing the USA for refusing to adapt the metric system.😆 I wish manufacturers grow a pair and have the initiative of only use the metric system. Your channel can also join that movement to be part of the solution. I’m not expecting any US politician to take that initiative any time soon.
Ha ha! Every now and then I can't resist. As someone who majored in physics, the kinetic math is just so much easier when we use civilized units! :-) -Paul
Hey all I love my 2024 dual motor Apollo Go! Putting 20-30 miles on it a day. Great company go to the main RUclips channel they have tons of how to videos on every single part of this scooter amazing! I dropped my scooter on his handle because it's kind of a flimsy kickstand broke something in the handlebar wiring partly took apart The Handlebar via the video tutorial saw two wires that broke got my trustee soldering iron out t solder them together electrical tape them up and I was good to go go go go flimsy kickstand was the cause.
I wouldn't want to Ford a river while being in contact with a sizeable lithium battery anyway 😂 the IP rating of apollos is virtually unmatched and all you really need considering it won't be bothered by riding in pouring rain and through snowy slush.
This scooter took too long to come out. I love everything about it it's the perfect scooter that I wanted in a commuting scooter. NFC would have been nice also for the price. But I have vsett 8 hill climbing as a single motor excellent speed I'm getting up to 28 mph. Because I'm like you Paul very small built 😅 I'm getting the best out of the scooter. Dualtron popular is in the same price range I think about $300 us more
I'm not as small as I look on screen. I'm 5' 10" and 165lbs. I just look small next to Mitchell and Ramier who are both over 6' tall. :-) So glad you're enjoying your scooter. That's one I haven't tried yet. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide Paul. I miss your cool sneakers. The outfit you had on was magnificent cool fantastic trendy everything my bro 👍🏽 go back to that you can be a trendsetter + scooter trendsetter. Hey I got the most cool casing for my scooter made up... Leatherette for the bass and the stem and for the handlebars completely waterproof went through the pouring rain and nothing happened to the scooter
Is this Big Dawg approved and what is its range ridden by one? I think that's the only info missing in this video that your older videos had such as the review of the Segway Ninebot F2 Pro and even the classic Ninebot Max G30LP! Would appreciate a full written review on the web including Big Dawg approval and range ridden by him!
Ramier really likes it. He didn't get a chance to ride it until after the main part of the review was filmed, but says he agrees that it feels like a little Apollo Pro (a scooter he and I both really like). -Paul
I find this scooter very bumpy and tiring, and the wheels are too small and thin, so hitting small bumps and cracks is JARRING. I'd like to hear your comments after you ride the 30 mile lap to see how the RIDER held up. I don't understand the comments about this very high "ride quality", unless comparing this to other crappy scooters. I'm about 195 pounds dry. One hour on this scooter is more than enough for me, and I'm ready to put it away (with plenty of battery left). The 2024 Lime scooter is way more comfortable and smooth. It's got front shocks like the VMAX VX4.
Thanks Paul, great review as per usual. I wish you guys would bring back 'Thursday Night Live' I really miss that show you had a couple of years back where you discussed all things in the scooter universe. Perhaps once a month as a testing ground ?
Thanks so much! We miss it too. It was a tough call to let it go. The prep work it took to pull that off live was intense. I really miss the hang-out-vibe and seeing familiar names every week. -Paul
Thanks! We're basically both these days and ongoing. Mitchell will be mostly RG and I will be mostly ESG, but we'll be back and forth on both channels. -Paul
Same! I wish I could buy it in person from an Apollo Center Hub here in NYC by online pickup arrangement instead of delivery. That will eliminate the hassle of someone stealing it if there is any moment of lag time between delivery and receiving it!
They just launched this scooter, so more parts will show up on their site soon. Right now they have about 35 parts and accessories for the Apollo Go available on the site, which is impressive for a scooter which hasn't shipped yet. I did a recent survey of every scooter company website to see what parts they offer for their scooters and Apollo is one of the best in this regard. -Paul
Of course, Apollo Go is built for much better portability than the Air with significantly narrower handlebars, making it perfect to extend its range via public transit! Try fitting the Air's unusually wide handlebars through the subway turnstiles and it is an absolute pain in the @$$!
True! It just depends on what you're looking for. Nothing really occupies the same space as the Go (as we saw in the graphs), but if range is top priority then the Cruiser S beats everything for the money. -Paul
Good for you. For most commuters, the Go actually has more than enough range for their needs with that "trash" range alone. Being a compact, portable scooter with narrower handlebars, the Go is meant to be easily taken with public transit such as buses and trains for very long commutes. Also, that makes it so easy to store indoors in tight apartments and be carried upstairs with ease! You want a car replacement with longer range while still being fully electric? Go with the Apollo City or Pro without the stress of insurance and maintenance bill that you currently subject yourself to with a gas powered motorcycle. Also, your current vehicle is far more likely to be stolen as you can't easily take yours indoors. Good luck!
Alright. I don't get it. Electric Scooter Guide ⮕ Rider Guide ⮕ now ESG again BUT you still include the RG animation ???? Why all the name changes? (I love your channel but am confused 😵💫)
We're working on it. We just haven't got an ESG animation yet! We got a lot of feedback from the audience that the ESG RUclips channel fans weren't that interested in e-bikes and mainly wanted scooters, so we decided to keep the ESG-channel focused exclusively on electric scooters. We'll use the new Rider Guide Channel for e-bikes and all PEVs. -Paul
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For those contemplating on a Segway, NIU, or Apollo scooter….
I currently have the new Ninebot Max, Apollo Go, and NIU K3 Max. The Segway is heavy, the rear shock makes a lot of noise no matter how I tune it, and it has a big footprint. It also has bad lighting at night.
The problem I’m having is the braking on the Apollo, it is scary to only have a back brake that locks up the wheel if squeezed too hard. It doesn’t feel like it’s stopping the scooter. You have to rely on the regen braking to really stop the scooter. My wife has the NIU K3 Max with dual disk brakes and that things stops on a dime. The Segway also stops well, as it has two brake wires stopping front and rear wheels.
However, the Apollo is fast, it feels solid, and it is my choice over the others. I’m curious about the NIU 300x, but it doesn’t have rear shocks, has a twist throttle and doesn’t go as fast.
I think Apollo is the way to go!
Hope this helps!
Thanks for the info. Is Segway you have Max G2? How does ride quality compares to Apollo Go?
Turn up the intensity of the regen brake to 10 in the settings. It stops quick!
What the heck go only has back brakes?
I’m looking to get either the niu kqi300x, apollo go or Segway max g2, which would you recommend
Use hazard lights mode with the Segway G2 at night (so both turn signals are blinking). They are super bright and you will be quite visible.
Although ESG video reviews are comprehensive I wish you guys could try the Bus or Subway test for the portable scooters to see how comfortable or doable getting in a bus with it is.
Another important aspect that needs to be covered is ground clearance (great in the Go btw) with real world test on curbs, speed bumps, etc.
Your feedback is always appreciated. We'll try to get more portability stuff worked in. The apartment-shot in this one didn't come out quite as clear as I wanted it to, but you can sort of get the idea of the width difference.
I'm hoping website team can get the old ESG search-tool back up on the site soon. I want people to have direct access to all the numbers we measure. I measure all of the dimensions including ground clearance to the lowest part of the scooter (usually the mount for the kickstand). -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide Nice review! Do you think Apollo Go is a great choice for a fast ride in Manhattan daily? I had a scooter before(2021) for 1 month USCOOTERS, it was fast and very light but not smooth ride, and I started having break issues, the customer support was not good and I just had the opportunity to return the scooter with the help from a scooter forum from scooter reviewer like yours ( maybe you helped me? I don’t remember 😆). I have been using Citibike to ride, that’s a great free good exercise, but the scooter was fun and I’m missing it, and I enjoy to ride fast, up to 20 mph 😛
Nice to see the full review! Looks like a winner.
Thanks so much for your support! -Paul
I hope you do a long term review of this magnificent scooter after 6 months of owning it as you just did with the GoTrax GX1/GX2!
I would appreciate it if you include Ramier's footage in that video enjoying the "mini Pro" and personally giving his Big Dawg approval!
Noted! We will do it
This is a great scooter for anyone who doesn’t have an elevator or 1st floor home and wants a zippy ride. 49lbs will feel lighter because the scooter is thoughtfully made to be compact when folded.
Definitely. It's amazing the difference between a 49lb scooter and a 70lb scooter when it comes to stairs. It's doable with 70lbs, but there is a lot of grunting involved, for me anyway. -Paul
Paul, great review. I was comparing the Apollo Go to the Emove Cruiser S and was waiting for your review. I want something compact for short commutes (7 miles). I have the NAMI Burn E2, so I don't need a long-distance scooter. The warranty gives the Apollo Go the edge for me.
So glad I could help! You have great taste in scooters. The Cruiser S is a great scooter too, but for 7 miles of commuting the Go feels like the right choice. It's lighter and much easier to carry when you need to. Plus I just really like the ride feel of the Go. It feels very 2024 if not 2025! -Paul
Seriously dude, the Niu Kqi Air is your best bet. Fast, light (like really light), great range, amazing warranty, and cheaper than the options you are considering. I would get one but have the Kqi2 pro (thanks to Paul's work) and so my next scoot will require more range and plush suspension. Good luck!
Ordered mine today, excited for it to arrive. Got my Apollo city single motor 2022 stolen so I had to get another Apollo. Quality like no other 💯
Good choice! Stay safe out there.
Spend at least 10-20% of your scooter's value on locks!
Get the Litelok X1 for the Apollo Go!
I hate to have that thing stolen and I couldn't even afford one yet!
Hey great review! Thanks! I know nothing about scooters but wanted something for my teen. Looked at a bunch of “best of” lists, and was looking at weight, range, portability, build quality, hill climbing performance, suspension - kind of came up with a bit of “n of 1” conclusion. Your review sealed the deal for me.
Thank you so much for letting me know! -Paul
Despite all its niceties, the main issue with this scooter is the lack of overall versatility due to limited range. With reviewers seeing 14 - 19 miles max, with at least one reviewer cruising at 20mph until it would no longer sustain, which is fairly unimpressive. Apollo used 30 x 21700 cells in 10 series, 3 parallel. Had they simply gone with 40 cells in 10 Series 4 Parallel, it would have transformed this scooter into one of the most versatile units in scooter history while not giving up any of it's other fantastic attributes. Adding 10 cells would add less than 2lbs to this unit, even factoring in a slightly deeper battery tub. I wish they'd make a "max" version with 40 cells and 2-3" wider handlebars so that there was room to add an accessory or two... lights, bell, etc. I love everything else about the this scooter but the range is an issue compared to its competitors from Niu, Segway, VMAX and others.
Thanks for stopping by!
I've been looking for a minor upgrade to my Niu KQI3 Max in terms of comfort and performance, and it sounds like this fits the bill. Thanks, Paul!
For sure! The Go is smoooooth. Everything it does is smooth. The only thing you may miss are the massive brakes on your KQi3 Max. It's a matter of taste though. For normal riding around, having the dedicated regen on the Go is really nice. But if you like being able to nearly lock both brakes at the same time, that's a place the KQi3 Max has the edge. -Paul
The KQI 300P and 300X is coming out soon. You might want to check them out.
@@Why-I-Oughta yeah the 300X is one I’m looking at as well. It seems a tiny bit slower and there’s only front suspension, but it seems a little wider (the handlebar, deck, and tires) than the Apollo Go and I imagine it’ll feel a bit more stable. So I’m torn between the two.
@dgmithril The Niu 300s might be the best bet for longer riding and comfort because of the things you mentioned as well as having larger wheels. The portability of the Go and the rear suspension is an advantage. I guess the Go might suit you more if you have that _need for speed._ 🏎🍃
Paul thank you for always giving a excellent video. Always super thorough and I feel knowledgeable. I’m pretty sure this is gonna be the scooter. I go with Evan been watching your videos for over a year and a half thank you for your powerful information.
Thanks so much for the kind words!
Awesome review! I’m so excited to get my GO. One quick note, I’m not sure why you said the Eve cells used are a step behind Samsung. They are the same specifications and EVE is one of the best brands for batteries reliability and QC, just not recognizable yet in the US. Also they rated at over 1000 cycles according to the EVE spec sheet and are the same cells used in many EVs.
Good to know. We'll read up more about them and adjust their standing in the reliability ratings spreadsheet accordingly. If we were to rate them the same as Samsung, it would pull the Go from a 9.3 to a 9.5 on our reliability score sheet, which would be the highest score we've recorded yet.
I appreciate the feedback.
-Paul
Thanks a lot for the review ! Excellent as always. Any news on spare parts availability and affordability?
Apollo is pretty good with parts availability. For example, the Go hasn't started shipping yet, but they have 35 parts and accessories available on their site for the Go already. -Paul
I bought an Inmotion Climber on Black Friday and am curious for both a review and comparison to the Apollo Go. Yes you lose the suspension, but I’d like to see how the power and climbing measure up. Plus the Hillclimber is at an affordable price point, commonly found for $899
I'm curious myself. At the lowest price point, we have the Hover-1 Journey Max dual motor at $599, then in the middle, the Climber for $899 and the Apollo Go at the higher end at $1,149 (with code riderguide). It would be fun to do a middle-weight dual motor comparison at some point. -Paul
Me too. Lately, I've seen the InMotion Climber on sale for $699 on their website!
Looks like I finally found the scooter I want!
Awesome! So happy we could help! -Paul
Just bought the Apollo Go right now the moment the Fourth of July sales came up before the tarrif hits!
Gotta love being in Murica!
So excited now but fingers crossed whether Apollo sends me a perfect thriller or a defective one...
Enjoy your new ride!
How easy is it to use the turn signals with the thumb throttles? Do you have to let off the throttle to signal?
Yes, since they are located on either side, you need to lift to signal right. Good point. Typically I’m slowing down for a corner as I signal anyway though.
It’s easy to tell one button from the other because they are so far apart, but you do have to lift your thumb off the throttle. -Paul
You should try this again after the new ninebot max G2 firmware update that enables n2o acceleration mode. I’m pretty sure the 0-20mph is closer to the Apollo now….it caught me by surprise when i used it the first time lol. Now i squat a little when i use n2o lol.
I will check it out
If I could wave my magic wand over the Apollo Go, I'd turn it into a 720Wh battery, give it 3" wider bars for performance riding and additional accessory room, dual disc brakes like the NIU KQi3 Max, and rubberized turn signal caps. Finally if it had a true 27-28mph speed, I'd be in heaven. Call it the "GT" the "Max" or something similarly straightforward. I would sell one of my larger dual motor rides to have two Apollo Go "GT's" in the garage because it would be so perfect!
Part of me still wants to pull the trigger on this scooter due to its elegant form and build quality but can't. It seems to me that Apollo missed a real chance to make this the ultimate 50lb, dual motor, pocket rocket. In its current 540wh battery configuration, you can only ride it spiritedly for 16-19 miles. That gives me a one direction reach of about 8mi if I want to return to my starting point and still have a couple miles of reserve range, in case I hit a hill or take a wrong turn. Had they given it a 720Wh battery it would have absolutely transformed this ride into an icon of versatility. This formula would have provided about 24mi worth of "play time" while throttling back to 13-14mph would afford about 40 miles of cruise range. It would have been able to adapt to virtually any mission from hot rodding, to cruising, to commuting. Someone could argue it does that now but it's far too handcuffed for myself and a lot of other enthusiasts who put their money elsewhere after seeing the Go's range shortcoming.
Thanks for the feedback and stopping by!
No, I wouldn't want wider handlebars on an Apollo Go and the more maintenance intensive disc brakes of the Niu scooter!
Reliability and portability is the Apollo Go's primary purpose and is meant for commuting in conjunction with public transit, explaining its under 50 pounds weight and compactness!
Wider handlebars from my experience, are a hassle to bring through subway turnstiles and that is with my Segway Ninebot F2 Pro with 22-inch wide handlebars alone!
Its disc brakes are also a hassle with the fact that I had to get it adjusted every 400 miles and already had a brake pad replaced after just 1000 miles!
I had a Ninebot Max G30LP and its much narrower handlebars (much narrower than the Go's) are a breeze to pass through turnstiles and its drum brakes are still going strong after 1500 miles of riding without maintenance but I had to upgrade to a better speed and battery capacity while not drastically increasing weight and hindering portability.
If you want any of your desired traits, you are better off with the Apollo City Pro or a dual motor version of the Apollo Air with the wider handlebars but you may have to wait till 2025 to get the stem light version of these. Also, the VMAX VX2 Pro GT should suit your needs if you want something lightweight as it is a Ninebot Max G30P on steroids but has a ton of power and speed although I would want it to have at least a front suspension.
The Apollo Go is built for one thing and one thing only: short to mid range commuter with ease of portability and reliability unlike any other scooters and to extend its range: it is extremely friendly and maneuverable around large crowds in public transit.
Relevant comment! I have exceeded 4000 km with my Zero 8 and it brakes extremely well so far! It's not afraid of wet roads or rain... I have a Another scooter with disc brakes, it squeaks a lot when the road is wet, quite simply because the dust in small grains of sand gets between the disc and brake pads
Hello! I have been looking at your videos a bit now. Really love what you’re doing. I wonder if I could get some help. I live in Sweden and try to find a good scooter to use but the most of them you show cost very much to sent to Sweden. So I wonder if you know any good scooters that’s available to buy and ship to Sweden without to much of a delivery fee ?
That's a great question! In fact, that's a great subject: scooter distribution world-wide. What's available where! Let me see what I can find out. (I'm not even sure where to start looking so don't let me get your hopes up too high!). -Paul
Please start including in the specs in these videos the exact deck length and height off the ground. It’s super important
Thanks for the feedback. We agree. I've linked to the sections of the review that have those numbers on screen.
We measure all of the dimensions for the scooters by hand and try to include them in every video. I've linked to the outer dimensions first, and the deck dimensions and ground clearance below that. :-) -Paul
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@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide thank you so much and thank you for your awesome and informative videos!
Would you say the Go is easier to store on a subway train then the Apollo City? I have the City and is a bit to large and cumbersome to take on the train during peak hours.
Yes, that's definitely one of its advantages. I really like the narrower bars. I also like that the body and it's smoother lines make it feel like it's less likely to snag random objects when you carry it. It's hard to say for sure without seeing how packed the subway is where you are though. -Paul
Far easier! 20 in. wide handlebars vs 26 in. wide handlebars is a mammoth of a difference between the Go and the City or Air!
Even with my lightweight, 41 pound Segway Ninebot F2 Pro with 22.5 inch-wide handlebars, it was already a significant hassle just to maneuver it around the fare turnstiles of the NYC subway system due to the handlebars being a bit too wide that I literally have to angle and lift the front of the scooter just to go through!
It would be nearly impossible to do that with the Apollo City or Air with their whopping 26 inch-wide handlebars even when the latter is meant to be relatively portable and lighter than the Go!
Is the Regen lever variable? If you have it dialed up to 10 on the app, is it only 10? or can you push it down and gradually get it to level 10?
The regen lever is totally variable. Both the mechanical brake lever and the left thumb lever have super smooth variable regen input. -Paul
Perhaps the best designed scooter coming from Apollo
For sure!
Im deciding between the apollo go, and the apollo city, but dont know which one i should get. Which would you recommend?
Apollo city for the win! You can use the code RIDERGUIDE for max savings.
I am struggling with the same choice. I don't know if 9" tires and narrow handle bars are better than 10" tires and wider handle bars. I wish the City was a bit lighter. What did you end up getting?
I LOVE that front suspension front fork instead of rear suspension typical Apollo scooter. Is this Apollo first front suspension front fork?
This is the first telescopic fork Apollo has done in a while. They had a scooter a long time ago that you might not recognize, which used a spring in the middle. It wasn't as good as this one though. -Paul
Looking into getting an upgrade from the Unagi scooter I’ve had for years and this one is looking tempting!
Great option for sure! Prices are going up soon due to tariffs so grab it before it does. Check the link in description for latest pricing and coupon code.
for the apollo go ESG review on the website it says that it takes 6.1 seconds to 15mph?
That is a typo!
Great review and it looks like an outstanding scooter. I wish they had gone with 10" tires instead of 9". I understand their thinking on the matter, but I think it was a poor choice. Everything else looks great. A price of $700-$800 is realistic for something like this.
10' won't make a world of difference over 9' in terms of performance and safety. The dual suspension is what does the trick in dampening rough road conditions.
Besides, that would defeat this scooter's purpose for portability and ease of storage as a larger frame is needed to accomodate 10' tires.
The NIU KQi 300X has 10.5” tires, larger battery yet it weight and measure about the same.
Apollo could have used a carbon fiber stem and handle to compensate for the added weight, I guess.
Could also be that they wanted to keep a distance from the City Pro, marketing wise?
@@alexp9379 But the Niu Kqi 300X takes up much more space with wider body and handlebars and has more maintenance-intensive disc brakes compared to Apollo Go's drum and regen brakes. The latter is better suited for multi-modal commuting while the former is great if one does not need the Apollo City's speed, power and excess weight yet still needs range.
It's hard to know what to compare to the Go in terms of what you get. We literally don't have anything in our database under $2,000 that has dual motors, full suspension and weighs less than 50lbs. -Paul
Hi Paul, what are your thoughts on Apollo Go & Apollo Air 2023, as there is sale on both. Which one would you prefer?
Apollo Go for the win! Check link in description for best price and code
Did you guys ever do a review on the dualtron popular? If not can you? I’m on the fence with that one and the Apollo city pro.
We haven't reviewed it. We are in a bit of a lull for access to Dualtrons right now, but hopefully we'll get it sorted out. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide ok I appreciate that. Thanks you
Can you do review on the hover 1 2.0 duel motor scooter pls 😊
The Hover-1 Journey Max?
Done! -Paul
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@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide thxs
Happy to help! -Paul
I have a Apollo Phantom V1 converted to V3 I'm thinking about this scooter I really like the break throttle it feels like a magic carpet ride. Do you think having a 25mph top speed would be boring?
Hmmm. Normally, I’d say “no”, but coming from a Phantom, you’re used to a certain amount of adrenaline when you hit the throttle. The Go isn’t at all an adrenaline machine. It’s so smooth you don’t really feel the speed. 25 mph is enough for me most of the time, but you may really miss the zoom-factor coming from the Phantom. The City might be happy middle ground for you. -Paul
Any info on how it does with the hill climb test?
Here you go. We put it a little later in the video. -Paul
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@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide thanks 👍, somehow missed it lol. I currently have a Ninebot Max G30p with an sharkset front suspension.
Currently considering an Apollo Go as I need something that is in the same category as my current daily eg. portability (weight and length of bars/total). Leaning towards the Go at the moment as I would like something that is a little faster and is better at hill climbing. At least from what I can tell the Go seems to check all those boxes.
Would have my Ninebot as a reserve/backup but it looks like the Apollo Go would be a nice QoL improvement.
Looking at the video it looks like it’s really hard to read the display espically while accelerating because it keeps rolling down
That’s because of the camera glare! Display is fine in real life.
Oh ok thx
Im on the fence between the Go and the Vx 2 extreme can you give me any feedback between the power of the VX2 vs Go to help me
We would go for the GO! Nice scooter in small package , dual motors , good suspension. Solid overall . You can check the link in description for the current sale price and use code RIDERGUIDE for $50 off
My Ninebot Max G30 broke down after 3 years of commuting. I’ve been wondering if I should go with the Ninebot Max G2 or the Apollo Go, decided the latter since I have to take a flight of stairs to get to my train station and front door. Still not sure if I made the right decision, since I did like my original Max and its range (although I rarely needed it).
Wondering if other people were on the same boat
I currently have both. The Segway is heavy, the rear shock makes a lot of noise no matter how I tune it, and it has a big footprint. It also has bad lighting at night.
The problem I’m having is the braking on the Apollo, it is scary to only have a back brake that locks up the wheel if squeezed too hard. It doesn’t feel like it’s stopping the scooter. You have to rely on the regen braking to really stop the scooter. My wife has the NIU K3 Max with dual disk brakes and that things stops on a dime. The Segway also stops well, as it has two brake wires stopping front and rear wheels.
However, the Apollo is fast, it feels solid, and it is my choice over the others. I’m curious about the NIU 300x, but it doesn’t have rear shocks, has a twist throttle and doesn’t go as fast.
I think Apollo is the way to go!
Hope this helps!
Hey ya! Did your unit exhibit strange battery level behavior? Mine is a bit strange - after I charge it to 100% and start riding, it immediately drops to around 81%. Then it goes up and down between 90 or so and back to 81. Is that normal? Scooter is otherwise fantastic.
No we did not have any issues!
Thanks! I've had the worst luck haha. My Pro IoT doesn't work and this issue with the Go. Hopefully I can get these things resolved soon. @@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
Still love the scooter to be clear! :D
Are those just the production model results or the actual product for the final results?
This is a pre-production version of the final product. So performance should not change between this and final production. The difference is usually that they're still working out all of the standard assembly procedures when they do pre-production.
-Paul
Thanks for the review! I'm excited to get mine! Is using a fast charger bad for scooters or does it not impact the battery health? also, are there any fast chargers you'd recommend?
That's a great question! The engineering rule of thumb is that you don't want to exceed 1C which is the current required to fully charge within one hour. That would be a ridiculous amount of current.
Apollo offers a 4A- 5A fast charger on their site that could cut charge time down to roughly 3 hours. It doesn't currently say it's ok to use on the Go, but I expect they will update it. I'd reach out to them to confirm.
I'll come back with a direct link to the charger. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide Thanks for the reply!
Hi @tannerthomas7508,
I reached out to Eloi, and he says the fast charger for the Go is coming, but not ready just yet. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide ok, I'll keep an eye out for it then when it's ready. Thank you for reaching out to him and getting back to me!
@@tannerthomas7508if the battery management system is built for fast charging, then using an approved fast charger WILL NOT damage the battery at all
Excellent review but why did not compare it to the NIU 300X?
The Go seems to hit the sweet spot in many aspects except for the 9” tire size. No matter what Apollo tells you, this is physics, a larger tire like 10” would have been better and yet still compact.
The latch seems like it can injure badly the rider in an accident since the magnet is not strong enough to keep it in place.
Other than that is almost perfect but a bit pricy.
I like the brand Apollo attention to detail.
Thank you so much! And great question.
We haven't fully tested the 300X yet. Mitchell only had a chance to ride it a little bit in Las Vegas, so we can't say for sure how fast and how far the 300X goes. We'll get one soon though and then can add it to the comparison list.
The magnet on the latch is very strong, so it definitely won't pop out while riding. In fact the strength of the magnet is what broke the glue on ours. But they'll use more glue on the magnets of the production scooters. -Paul
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But is the magnet that strong that can keep the larch in place in a collision at 20mph speed?!
I find that hard to believe, only a crash test could confirm it for sure.
Just ordered one thanks. For range tests, do you have one at 32 km/h between scooters? I assume you rode at the max speed to get your range?
Around 19-20mph average speed for range test on our test course with uphill
How would this compare to the NIU KQi 300x? Thanks.
We would choose the go because of dual motor!
What is your favorite scooter overall? The vmax vx4 or Apollo?
Apollo
Isn't the Emove cruiser faster, goes further at the same price?
Yes, I made it one of the comparison scooters, and put it on the leaderboard throughout the video because I feel like these are two scooters people will be comparing, even though their specs are fairly different. The feel of the Apollo Go is very different from the Cruiser, though I really like both. -Paul
You think 800 is a good price for it? Are there any long term reviews? Just concerned if there's any issues with it long term
Very solid price and solid scooter!
Will the Apollo City Pro get an upgrade in 2024?
No updates yet!
Well it looks cool I guess. But lets be hones. The lights are just a gimmick and not really there for the cardrivers to see. I mainly speak of the backlights. I would never ever recognice the turning signals as turning signals from the back when I would be driving in a car.
Hello everyone! I just got my Go, but does anybody know why it goes up to 12 mph? I’ve already register through the app, set the top speed up to 37 mph (even though it does not go that fast), but it only allows me to go up to 12 mph. Could anybody help me on this, please? Thanks!!
Should be in the p settings! Also check it’s on top gear
Really struggling to decide between the Apollo 2024 Go and 2024 City. My heart wants the City, but the Go is just SO much cheaper and I'm not sure the City does enough to make up for that...
I don't really care that much about top speed, but I do care about ride quality, hill climbing ability (I'm about 200lbs and live downhill from downtown Montreal), and range.
Thoughts anyone?
Def apollo city for the win! geni.us/CityProNew use code RIDERGUIDE for best code
Why couldn't they make it 48v instead of 36v?
That's a really good question. I'll ask Apollo.
One of our Segway scooters, I think it's the E2, seems to have a battery that's in the 20's! I had to look a the charger three times to convince myself it was real. They don't put it on the spec sheet. The E2 doesn't seem to suffer from it.
-Paul
Ok, I checked in with Apollo, and the answer makes a lot of sense. Dual motors draw a lot of current. In order to support that sort of current draw without too much voltage sag from a 540Wh battery, they needed to arrange the pack with more cells in parallel, which means you can push more amps, but with fewer cells stacked in series you end up with a lower nominal voltage. -Paul
I love the part criticizing the USA for refusing to adapt the metric system.😆
I wish manufacturers grow a pair and have the initiative of only use the metric system.
Your channel can also join that movement to be part of the solution.
I’m not expecting any US politician to take that initiative any time soon.
Ha ha! Every now and then I can't resist. As someone who majored in physics, the kinetic math is just so much easier when we use civilized units! :-)
-Paul
Don’t take away my freedom miles!!! 😂
Tfw I got a flat and like 3 weeks in and then support told me they dont have any parts in stock
How??? If they are self healing tires?
How many km in distance will a single charge get you
Depends on riders weight and riding conditions. Real world range is in the video.
Hey all I love my 2024 dual motor Apollo Go! Putting 20-30 miles on it a day. Great company go to the main RUclips channel they have tons of how to videos on every single part of this scooter amazing! I dropped my scooter on his handle because it's kind of a flimsy kickstand broke something in the handlebar wiring partly took apart The Handlebar via the video tutorial saw two wires that broke got my trustee soldering iron out t solder them together electrical tape them up and I was good to go go go go flimsy kickstand was the cause.
Csn you turn off the light in the stem
Should be an option in the app!
Yes you can, by pressing the mode button twice!
Adding a comment, just to add numbers to the video 😉
Thanks for that!
You got 18 miles of “spirited riding” but you didn’t mention your weight? 😢
Paul is 165lbs!
Sweet, thanks for the quick reply and as always…….the detailed review!
Is there any scooter that is fully waterproof
Not yet!
I wouldn't want to Ford a river while being in contact with a sizeable lithium battery anyway 😂 the IP rating of apollos is virtually unmatched and all you really need considering it won't be bothered by riding in pouring rain and through snowy slush.
great scooter ty!
Springs are most like progressive instead of linear
Thanks for the feedback!
This scooter took too long to come out. I love everything about it it's the perfect scooter that I wanted in a commuting scooter. NFC would have been nice also for the price. But I have vsett 8 hill climbing as a single motor excellent speed I'm getting up to 28 mph. Because I'm like you Paul very small built 😅 I'm getting the best out of the scooter. Dualtron popular is in the same price range I think about $300 us more
I'm not as small as I look on screen. I'm 5' 10" and 165lbs. I just look small next to Mitchell and Ramier who are both over 6' tall. :-)
So glad you're enjoying your scooter. That's one I haven't tried yet. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide Paul. I miss your cool sneakers. The outfit you had on was magnificent cool fantastic trendy everything my bro 👍🏽 go back to that you can be a trendsetter + scooter trendsetter. Hey I got the most cool casing for my scooter made up... Leatherette for the bass and the stem and for the handlebars completely waterproof went through the pouring rain and nothing happened to the scooter
I my go is on the ups truck. Almost cancel my preorder for the daultron popular
Is this Big Dawg approved and what is its range ridden by one?
I think that's the only info missing in this video that your older videos had such as the review of the Segway Ninebot F2 Pro and even the classic Ninebot Max G30LP!
Would appreciate a full written review on the web including Big Dawg approval and range ridden by him!
Ramier really likes it. He didn't get a chance to ride it until after the main part of the review was filmed, but says he agrees that it feels like a little Apollo Pro (a scooter he and I both really like). -Paul
I find this scooter very bumpy and tiring, and the wheels are too small and thin, so hitting small bumps and cracks is JARRING. I'd like to hear your comments after you ride the 30 mile lap to see how the RIDER held up. I don't understand the comments about this very high "ride quality", unless comparing this to other crappy scooters. I'm about 195 pounds dry. One hour on this scooter is more than enough for me, and I'm ready to put it away (with plenty of battery left). The 2024 Lime scooter is way more comfortable and smooth. It's got front shocks like the VMAX VX4.
Thanks for the feedback! We found it very stable and even RAMIER enjoyed the GO
I think the closest thing to this would be the kaabo mantis 8 but the Go has better specs in my opinion. I might get this.
We would Go for the Go!
Thanks Paul, great review as per usual. I wish you guys would bring back 'Thursday Night Live' I really miss that show you had a couple of years back where you discussed all things in the scooter universe. Perhaps once a month as a testing ground ?
Thanks so much! We miss it too. It was a tough call to let it go. The prep work it took to pull that off live was intense. I really miss the hang-out-vibe and seeing familiar names every week. -Paul
At Least Canada has a cool Scooter Company! Thank god we've got something good!
It's only product from Canada that is high quality.
I guess you’ve never heard of maple syrup or Jann Arden!
@@marshapelo9830Canada Goose? Faber snowshoes? Baffin boots? I’m a US citizen - but for the cold stuff, Canada knows what it’s doing.
Thank you
You're welcome!
Rider Guide or Electric Scooter Guide? lol nice video anyway
Thanks! We're basically both these days and ongoing. Mitchell will be mostly RG and I will be mostly ESG, but we'll be back and forth on both channels. -Paul
Where can I buy this in Ottawa? I wanna buy it in person. Not online delivery.
Same! I wish I could buy it in person from an Apollo Center Hub here in NYC by online pickup arrangement instead of delivery.
That will eliminate the hassle of someone stealing it if there is any moment of lag time between delivery and receiving it!
They can ship! Don’t think there is pick up.
In Chicago 🇺🇸 this brand no betteri others part available
They just launched this scooter, so more parts will show up on their site soon. Right now they have about 35 parts and accessories for the Apollo Go available on the site, which is impressive for a scooter which hasn't shipped yet. I did a recent survey of every scooter company website to see what parts they offer for their scooters and Apollo is one of the best in this regard. -Paul
I’d love to ride one with you paul
It would be such a blast to do a huge group ride some day! -Paul
That looks good and all but I’ll prefer the Apollo city pro.
We love the City Pro too! -Paul
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Thanks for your support! -Paul
Less range than the apollo air. Personally I'm disappointed. At that price point it should be able to do at least a good 25 miles if not 30.
It has dual motors and much higher speed so obviously range will be less then the air!
Of course, Apollo Go is built for much better portability than the Air with significantly narrower handlebars, making it perfect to extend its range via public transit!
Try fitting the Air's unusually wide handlebars through the subway turnstiles and it is an absolute pain in the @$$!
lightweight and fills a nice niche but overpriced
What's your favorite dual-motor scooter with full suspension? -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide The next one I'd like to get is teverun 7260 but i'm scared of stem wobble i keep hearing about
Battery is small I can get long range scooter for 1199$
True! It just depends on what you're looking for. Nothing really occupies the same space as the Go (as we saw in the graphs), but if range is top priority then the Cruiser S beats everything for the money. -Paul
the scooter looks very good but the front motor looks stupid
Interesting. What is it that you don't like about the look of the front motor? -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide the front motor looks like the old ninebot es2 scooter
That range is trash, im glad i didn’t waste $, i went gas powered instead.
We are all about electric on this channel!
Good for you. For most commuters, the Go actually has more than enough range for their needs with that "trash" range alone.
Being a compact, portable scooter with narrower handlebars, the Go is meant to be easily taken with public transit such as buses and trains for very long commutes.
Also, that makes it so easy to store indoors in tight apartments and be carried upstairs with ease!
You want a car replacement with longer range while still being fully electric? Go with the Apollo City or Pro without the stress of insurance and maintenance bill that you currently subject yourself to with a gas powered motorcycle. Also, your current vehicle is far more likely to be stolen as you can't easily take yours indoors. Good luck!
@@chaxologist2024are you a Apollo employee?
@@sean-i8r8d No and what's your deal?
I just like to geek out on the latest and most reliable scooters of 2023!
Alright. I don't get it.
Electric Scooter Guide ⮕ Rider Guide ⮕ now ESG again BUT you still include the RG animation ????
Why all the name changes?
(I love your channel but am confused 😵💫)
We're working on it. We just haven't got an ESG animation yet!
We got a lot of feedback from the audience that the ESG RUclips channel fans weren't that interested in e-bikes and mainly wanted scooters, so we decided to keep the ESG-channel focused exclusively on electric scooters. We'll use the new Rider Guide Channel for e-bikes and all PEVs. -Paul
OK. I understand now. Thanks for the explanation.
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide are you guys gonna branch into electric unicycles?
We eventually plan to have a channel for every electric rideable under 500lbs or so. It may take a while. e-bikes and e-motos first. :-)
-Paul