I have a 3 K converter but wish I still had the stock Holden one. Hi Stalls just don't seem to have that instant repose I like the stock converter. Probably ok for a strip run, but that's not my bag. Its only my stupidly big ass cam that forced me to go aftermarket stall.
Cheers for the info mate I’ve got a VE E1 R8 Vcm cam 883 and now billet high stall converter to suit I noticed the higher revs on the low end of power but if you stomp it it’s pretty narly and sounds like a jet Also this is my daily I’m slowly getting used to it though
Hi I have the same cam. When in park the cam is lumpy but in gear the idle becomes smooth. I think it's due to converter load up. Did you notice this too and did the new stall change the cam lumpiness in gear?
I think you’ll find the fact it idle’s better in drive than in park or neutral is due to the tune. It’s not a big cam compared to other options such as the one I’ve recently installed which is about 233/242@50 with ~ 615 thou lift on 114 LSA which is still not huge in the grand scale of cams. So tuners will often tune for a choppy idle otherwise you’d barely pick it had a cam. However if this tune was also applied when in Drive it would have horrible driveability
Great vid mate. I'm getting my 6l08 trans fully reconditioned and also getting 2500 stally engine stock just bolt on gear full exhaust and OTR air intake. I do have one question, I'm running stock Calais V rims, 245/45 R18. What is the widest you can go on drive tyres? Cheers
+Fernando Florio Hi Fernando. Yes the motor revs higher with lower drive (more converter slip) until the flash speed is reached then it takes off hard. This means fuel economy around town is noticeably worse. On the hwy the converter locks at low revs in top gear so no difference. drive ability is good tho but i wouldn't go above 3500 stall max if a daily depending on your cam / engine specs. A 2000-2500 stall would be good for a stock or mild cam, 3000 for a performance street cam & 3500 for a weekender type cam. Trans running is vital if you install a stally, as is a trans cooler upgrade and finally sticky tyres. No use putting the extra drive to the wheels if it just means more wheelspin
Thanks Fernando! Yes I now drive with more throttle around town. You have to or you go forward slowly. It means more revs and more fuel consumption around town. Comes into its own on the track though
so true. i put a 2800-3000rpm stall in a L98 engine with a 228/238 cam. and yeah it revs higher than normal going slowly but if you drive around the 3000rpm and up mark it hauls along.
It drives great in traffic but takes awhile to get used to the extra slipage in the lower gears. After a few weeks of driving it seems normal now. Just crusung thru the gears is the same as a stock converter because its still a lock up type . Same if cruising at 100. But different ehen you stomp on it. Down the quarter mile i noticed the rev range between gears was narrower than stock. It changes gears about 6800rmp down to about 4000rpm thru each change. Pretty cool... Most people will put a 10.5 inch or bigger TC into a 6L80e. Going to a 9.5inch as I've done is risky due to extra stress on tranny. The trans needs to be tuned and your engine tune may need to also be adjusted in some cases. You're less likely to have those issues with the bigger diameter converters. But with some good tuning, and some mods like a larger capacity trans pan, external cooler, inline filters ect the 9.5in TCE converters launch hard! Unless you have really good tyres it will make it hard to get traction on the street. But if you're looking to do quarter/eighth mile or roll racing ect a converter like this is a must have item in your set up
No worries I hope you enjoy your ss after the upgrades. It will go hard. If you ever wish to ask anything else or let us know how you go with it you can email so on vf2ssw375@gmail.com. Cheers SS FloRida
Normal street driving you get s lot of slip so you need to adjust to more throttle for the same acceleration to a point. Cross the threshold and boom your loving it. On the hwy it's the same as stock if you get a lock up type converter which most are
Hey mate , I’ve just whacked a big arse cam in my car and now she hops skips and jumps all over the joint at the lights. Do you think a stally will fix this lol. I love the big cam but I’m not a fan of looking like a top fuel dragster shaking and jumping in traffic hahaha
Yes you’ll need a higher stall speed to stop it pushing forward at the lights. I’d recommend contacting TCE Converters in Melbourne. They’ll customise a converter based on your cam specs and application. I’d also make sure you get a lock up type converter to maintain your fuel economy if a daily driver or street car
255/30r20 ATR Sport 2's I have 18inch hoosier drag radials for the drag strip. Theres a lot of wheelspin on street tires. 1-2-3rd gear pretty much straight to redline with lots of smoke..
Mate just a heads up but keep an eye on the inner sidewalls of those ATR Sport 2 tyres. I had 275/30/20's on the rear of my ute and one blew out and no more ute. The other wasn't far behind with large splits in it as well.
What is happening is its frying the rear street tires hence its not accelerating to hard. It may be difficult to pick up the wheelspin in the video to te untrained eye. Slicks change that at the track and transfer this spin to acceleration
+FIGJAM The point is the transmission engages lock up or 100% drive and higher revs therefore when the engine is making more power and torque.This effectively allows more power to the wheels through out each gear meaning harder acceleration. Im out to the drags this week so I'll post the runs which will be a comparison to the quickest ET to date. It will reduce travel through each change so they are shorter but more powerful if thats what you want to achieve. Its not really a mod for your daily driver as the extra acceleration equates to much more traction loss on street tires anyway
Yeah the wheel spin is not noticeable in your video, it looks as though the engine is simply revving. I knew what a high stall converter was hence the question. Hope you do well.
One other question, when you're wheel spinning, I would of thought the speedometer would of reflected this in speed but it doesn't seem to increase much compared to the revs. Must be me not reading it right
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I have a 3 K converter but wish I still had the stock Holden one. Hi Stalls just don't seem to have that instant repose I like the stock converter. Probably ok for a strip run, but that's not my bag. Its only my stupidly big ass cam that forced me to go aftermarket stall.
Cheers for the info mate
I’ve got a VE E1 R8 Vcm cam 883 and now billet high stall converter to suit
I noticed the higher revs on the low end of power but if you stomp it it’s pretty narly and sounds like a jet
Also this is my daily
I’m slowly getting used to it though
Hey mate how difference is it after getting the high stall converter?
Nice combo Sounds a lot of fun!
Hi I have the same cam. When in park the cam is lumpy but in gear the idle becomes smooth. I think it's due to converter load up. Did you notice this too and did the new stall change the cam lumpiness in gear?
I think you’ll find the fact it idle’s better in drive than in park or neutral is due to the tune. It’s not a big cam compared to other options such as the one I’ve recently installed which is about 233/242@50 with ~ 615 thou lift on 114 LSA which is still not huge in the grand scale of cams. So tuners will often tune for a choppy idle otherwise you’d barely pick it had a cam. However if this tune was also applied when in Drive it would have horrible driveability
Great vid mate. I'm getting my 6l08 trans fully reconditioned and also getting 2500 stally engine stock just bolt on gear full exhaust and OTR air intake. I do have one question, I'm running stock Calais V rims, 245/45 R18. What is the widest you can go on drive tyres?
Cheers
275 will likely scrub slightly depending on how low your rear springs are. Enjoy the new trans and stally 👍
Hi. like your video and i was just wandering if the new stall converer has made any difference to you every day driving.
thank you.
+Fernando Florio
Hi Fernando. Yes the motor revs higher with lower drive (more converter slip) until the flash speed is reached then it takes off hard. This means fuel economy around town is noticeably worse. On the hwy the converter locks at low revs in top gear so no difference. drive ability is good tho but i wouldn't go above 3500 stall max if a daily depending on your cam / engine specs. A 2000-2500 stall would be good for a stock or mild cam, 3000 for a performance street cam & 3500 for a weekender type cam. Trans running is vital if you install a stally, as is a trans cooler upgrade and finally sticky tyres. No use putting the extra drive to the wheels if it just means more wheelspin
Thanks Fernando! Yes I now drive with more throttle around town. You have to or you go forward slowly. It means more revs and more fuel consumption around town. Comes into its own on the track though
so true. i put a 2800-3000rpm stall in a L98 engine with a 228/238 cam. and yeah it revs higher than normal going slowly but if you drive around the 3000rpm and up mark it hauls along.
i am about to embark on a very similar combo. how does this converter feel at 100kph? and normal street driving? thanks.
It drives great in traffic but takes awhile to get used to the extra slipage in the lower gears. After a few weeks of driving it seems normal now. Just crusung thru the gears is the same as a stock converter because its still a lock up type . Same if cruising at 100. But different ehen you stomp on it. Down the quarter mile i noticed the rev range between gears was narrower than stock. It changes gears about 6800rmp down to about 4000rpm thru each change. Pretty cool...
Most people will put a 10.5 inch or bigger TC into a 6L80e. Going to a 9.5inch as I've done is risky due to extra stress on tranny. The trans needs to be tuned and your engine tune may need to also be adjusted in some cases. You're less likely to have those issues with the bigger diameter converters. But with some good tuning, and some mods like a larger capacity trans pan, external cooler, inline filters ect the 9.5in TCE converters launch hard! Unless you have really good tyres it will make it hard to get traction on the street. But if you're looking to do quarter/eighth mile or roll racing ect a converter like this is a must have item in your set up
SS Streeters thanks for your reply.
No worries I hope you enjoy your ss after the upgrades. It will go hard. If you ever wish to ask anything else or let us know how you go with it you can email so on vf2ssw375@gmail.com. Cheers
SS FloRida
Normal street driving you get s lot of slip so you need to adjust to more throttle for the same acceleration to a point. Cross the threshold and boom your loving it. On the hwy it's the same as stock if you get a lock up type converter which most are
Did you dyno the car again to see if you lost any power due to slip ?
It’s a lock up converter so no slip. The car dyno’d at 484 rwhp
Hey mate , I’ve just whacked a big arse cam in my car and now she hops skips and jumps all over the joint at the lights. Do you think a stally will fix this lol. I love the big cam but I’m not a fan of looking like a top fuel dragster shaking and jumping in traffic hahaha
Hi stall yep..
Yes you’ll need a higher stall speed to stop it pushing forward at the lights. I’d recommend contacting TCE Converters in Melbourne. They’ll customise a converter based on your cam specs and application. I’d also make sure you get a lock up type converter to maintain your fuel economy if a daily driver or street car
certainly picks it up and gets going, what size tyres are on the Rear?
255/30r20 ATR Sport 2's
I have 18inch hoosier drag radials for the drag strip. Theres a lot of wheelspin on street tires. 1-2-3rd gear pretty much straight to redline with lots of smoke..
I have 275s on my redline hooks up great. look forward to see what times you run at the track and how much difference the converter makes.
Mate just a heads up but keep an eye on the inner sidewalls of those ATR Sport 2 tyres. I had 275/30/20's on the rear of my ute and one blew out and no more ute. The other wasn't far behind with large splits in it as well.
+mjk 07 Cheers Bud!
Did you re tuned ?
Yes its been on the dyno quite a few times
Wtf. The cars revs like crazy but doesn't go. What's the point ?
What is happening is its frying the rear street tires hence its not accelerating to hard. It may be difficult to pick up the wheelspin in the video to te untrained eye. Slicks change that at the track and transfer this spin to acceleration
+FIGJAM The point is the transmission engages lock up or 100% drive and higher revs therefore when the engine is making more power and torque.This effectively allows more power to the wheels through out each gear meaning harder acceleration. Im out to the drags this week so I'll post the runs which will be a comparison to the quickest ET to date. It will reduce travel through each change so they are shorter but more powerful if thats what you want to achieve. Its not really a mod for your daily driver as the extra acceleration equates to much more traction loss on street tires anyway
Yeah the wheel spin is not noticeable in your video, it looks as though the engine is simply revving. I knew what a high stall converter was hence the question. Hope you do well.
One other question, when you're wheel spinning, I would of thought the speedometer would of reflected this in speed but it doesn't seem to increase much compared to the revs. Must be me not reading it right
Cheers Thanks bud and thanks for watching and taking the time to comment
This car seems like a poor investment. Falcons and commadores aren't really a car to waste coin.. but each to there own. Sounds cool tho 😀
Its just a car & not an expensive one. Its definately no financial investment but you cant take a managed fund to the track on weekends
what a shit life u must have ... cars rule ...
Im in a good place thanks & thanks for watching I hope you liked the clip
Darktele you absolute nuff. As opposed to what car?
@@SSFloRidaSS now she is a investment